While this arranger digital piano is certainly impressive for the price, there are a few things that a potential buyer needs to be aware of when compared to the Yamaha DGX-670 and Korg XE20, particularly from the performer point of view. Talking specifically about arrangers: I have owned a couple of Yamaha PSR-S arrangers (PSR-S770 and PSR-S910), Roland BK-7M arranger module, Korg PA60 professional arranger, Casio CDP-S350, Yamaha DGX-660, and now the Yamaha DGX-670 arranger digital piano. The DGX-670 costs $350 more than the Donner SE-1 here in the US, and the price difference is worth it if you can afford it, and these are some of the practical reasons why: 1) The Yamaha DGX-670 has a feature called "AI Fingering" which allows the player to play on the entire keyboard rather than being forced to play a 3-note chord on the left hand. Doing so limits your creativity and the authenticity of the performance. You can play very expressively the piano voice with both hands (once again, not having to press a simple 3-note chord on the left) and still get a full accompaniment behind you. From a practical perspective, that's huge. I would advice potential buyers to look beyond the specifications on paper and look for the little details that mean a lot, depending on how you plan to use the instrument. In addition, the DGX-670 has a button called "Simple", which allows you to instantly remove all backing track instruments except the bass and drum, also very important to be able to do when playing live. 2) The DGX-670 has 4 professional style variations instead of two (Donner), 3 intros and 3 endings instead of one, and a high quality piano sound that can be tweaked. The Korg XE20 has the same old arranger engine of the Korg PA60, an arranger keyboard I bought back in 2000. It was a big deal back then, but now it shows its age a bit, and has been replaced by more advanced arranger engines in the current Korg models. The Korg XE20 simply recycles the old PA60 arranger, whereas the Yamaha DGX-670 features current styles found in the PSR-S series. The 2 main piano voices of the Korg XE20 (German and Italian) don't sound very good. Korg has never been in the same league as Yamaha when it comes to piano sounds. 3) The DGX-670 features a 5-band parametric equalizer. Parametric equalizers are not the same as graphic equalizers, they are much more powerful. This feature alone costs about $300 on the cheap side if you want it in a hardware module. And Yamaha manufactures professional mixers. This is much more than just the typical 3-band equalizer you find on some digital pianos. It allows you to get the proper sound when connected to a PA system, particularly for piano sounds, which are notoriously difficult to EQ right. 4) Built-in microphone mixer with effects. In addition to those 4 features, important for live playing, there are many other that are still important: 5) The DGX-670 has a ported speaker system that produces a proper full range sound. Don't look at the wattage specifications: they are pretty meaningless in real life, you will not consume more than 1 or 2 watts of amplifier power in practice, even at full volume, and that can be shown with a power meter. Look instead at the speaker enclosure and size of the drivers. The Donner SE-1 has an open back configuration with smaller speakers, therefore there is no proper enclosure to produce bass. In this regard, it will perform similar to other digital pianos, such as the Yamaha P125, Kawai ES110/120 or Roland FP30X. This is important if you don't want to use an external speaker with a proper enclosure (for example, a studio monitor). 6) The 3 cm monochromatic LCD screen provided by Donner is basic, compared to the 11 cm color screen in the DGX-670. 7) The DGX-670 has a built-in USB Audio Interface, not to be confused with Bluetooth Audio or USB to Device/Host. The audio interface allows you to record audio directly to a DAW in a computer. This saves you money on an external audio interface, which are not cheap either. Plus, you have a very powerful way to control your recordings via the DGX-670 menus. When it comes to weight: the Donner SE-1 is half the weight of the DGX-670, which makes it much more comfortable to carry. The DGX-670 has a large particle board on the bottom that makes it heavy. So, it is portable, but quite heavy. However, if you don't plan to move it very often, this is not really an issue. I would choose the SE-1 is you gig a lot, want something very light and are bothered by the extra weight of the DGX-670, won't use the advanced auto-accompaniment features (AI fingering), and don't need the built-in microphone mixer. All in all, if you plan to use an arranger digital piano as the single source of sounds in a "one-man-band" live playing situation with a full band accompanying you while you play full piano pieces with both hands beyond the 3-note chord, then the Yamaha DGX-670 is the best choice out there.
I also have multiple keyboards including the DGX-670. All the points made above by Instrumental Covers are absolutely correct and valid - as are Jeremy's. The Yamaha DGX-670 is a class-leading digital piano (with some arranger functionality). But in the "budget" segment Donner has improved their products quite a bit (at least in terms of offering more features). I think perhaps the best summary is what Jeremy said at 12:42 So if you can only afford the $499 Donner it is a very good value AT ITS PRICE POINT. However, if you can wait and continue to save up the additional $ for a DGX-670 you will get a BETTER INSTRUMENT in almost every way.
I’m so glad to hear this review. Donner is really coming up and we’ll deservedly so. Their guitars are getting very good reviews and now this keyboard seems to be very good too.
Hey Jeremy....Good to see you reviewing again. With the lack of new instruments, it's great to have some new products showing up. Nice overview of this value added keyboard, wonderful connectivity features. Be well, stay safe...
Thanks for the video Jeremy. I just purchased this keyboard. And I am so pleased you found it a good value and sounding good. I am a beginner, a guitar player really for 42 years. I always wanted a decent Electric piano to learn the basics and keep around for years of enjoyment. Looking forward to playing soon...
This surely is a very informative and useful review! Well done, brother! I finally subscribed to your channel now so I won't miss any of your great reviews anymore!
I heard you say that Donner listens to client's complaints. Well, I hope at least Donner will finally produce the most-wished narrow-keys piano for smaller hands (5.5'' per octave). That will not require any electronic improvement, so the shortage of chips is of no importance. But it will be an extraordinary benefit for many players with small hands (especially kids and women) and also a benefit for the company, as more begginers wil not quit playing due to hand pains, and many will choose Donner in spite of any technical or musical deficiencies.
This makes such a huge difference! I have played on an old 19th century piano that had narrower keys than the now-standard 6.5" per octave. I'm not sure exactly how much narrower it was, but it wasn't enough to throw off my muscle memory. It was an absolute joy to play on, and my hands are only a bit smaller than average for a male (~8.5" span). On a standard piano, octaves are comfortable, and ninths are reachable but uncomfortable. On the smaller width piano, tenths were easily reached, and ninths were a tiny bit more playable than octaves on the standard.
Since you have reviewed both the Donner DEP-20 and now the Donner SE-1, I would like to know if the sound package/tones has been upgraded on the SE-1 or is it basically the same digital sound package found on the older DEP-20? I've also seen reviews for the DEP-20 that talk about some slop/side to side movement of the keys on the DEP-20 that can cause them to clack together. How is the key movement (side to side) on the SE-1....can the keys hit each other if your run your finger down the keyboard? Do you think the extra $100 for the SE-1 is worth it over the less expensive DEP-20.
Jeremy, thank you for the beautiful demonstration. By the way, I am enjoying and learning many new things about music in your keyboard piano course thank you
My order for a DEP-20 was due for delivery yesterday but is delayed by amazon, now I know why! I think I will pick up one of these instead, Thanks for the review Jeremy
Thanks for the nice demo Jeremy. You did keep some of us guessing though. I couldn't find anything in the description except a couple of links. The one for this instrument doesn't work too well in Europe. In fact, I didn't know the model name till almost 7 minutes into the video. I noticed that you played the Moonlight Sonata much more smoothly with this piano than with the unweighted actions you sometimes demonstrate. Now I begin to see how well you really can play.
@@JeremySee You're welcome. And I guess the SE-1 is still "illegal" in Europe. 🤣 PS The Santos Experimental bi-plane "SE1" was one of the very first aircraft to be used in WW1.
The problem with these cheap things often is not that they are no good, out of the box. Things like the pickup rubbers for the keys however, tend to wear fast (cheap quality) and often by the time you need them (3-8 years) the company doesn't exist anymore or doesnt make the needed rubbers.
Hi Jeremy. Apologies for the dumb question but can this keyboard be used to play software instruments like the synths in Logic Pro or Arturia Analog Lab? Thank you very much.
Great video, and awesome digital piano for price, especially from a great brand, though not among the top well known and trusted companies. I just happen to be using $130 JBL BT headphones, and it sounds great, at least with the tones you demonstrated, with sone unique timbres. As you described, a good choice for beginners, to moderate, and maybe advanced players that are not so apt to nitpick an instrument this price, that need a weighted 88 note keyboard. For any keyboard that is not battery power capable, the AC power adapter and chords should be included. And the simpler on off sustain pedal like the Roland DP-2 would be nice to come included. But it's great that this keyboard is provided with a piano type damper pedal, and headphones is a great bonus to be included. It's nice to have the stereo L/R 1/4" audio out jacks, and the 1/4" inch headphone jack at the front of the keyboard, along with the USB jack. The new Roland E-X50 also has the 1/4" headphone jack at the front, but should also have put the USB-A jack for a flash/thumb drive likewise, such as is on the Roland V-Combo VR-09B. You pretty much covered everything else well. I agree with what you said regarding its use/application and the end user passenger. As much as I like the Casio CT-S1000V I will scrutinize the new Rolsnd E-X50. From the few videos I have watched, it looks nice with the red trim. 256 note polyphony, great sounds and loud speakers, and costing less than the Casio, and also the Yamaha PSR-EW425, albeit with only 61 keys vs. 76 keys. Since keyboard is a high i terest, and aspiration, but not my primary activity, Ibwill hold of on the new keyboard, and focus on playing with my Go:Keys, JD-Xi and PSS-A50, and try out the Roland multitrack mobile software get the Go:Mixer Pro X, the iPad Mini and the Zoom Hr4n Pro portable digital audio recorder. I new iPhone SE has Garage Band and iMovie app software. And get the new MacBook Air as my main computer, and possibly the Roland Fantom-06/07 later.
@@JeremySee Youvtruly master the arranger keyboard if you can play it, and not sound like one. The Go:Keys is similar to an arranger keyboard, but marketed as a music creation keyboard, and the phrase loop feature works in a totally different way. You have several styles, but for each style, each octive is a different part with each key in the part a different variation, so it has more potential to sound natural if you master the interface and features.
I am glad to see this video but read that action on DONNER is bad. I have DEP-20 for a year & 3 mos. & it started getting on my nerves as the sound not great, but was all I could afford(Im not a beginner). But now it has a LOUD Middle C, which happened to my 1st Donner(they replaced free with this one). I want to upgrade but am Leary of getting newest DONNER & having same problem, plus u didn't mention if they've upgraded the grand piano sampling? And could u do a video on fixing a loud key? The DEP-20 will bother anyone who has been playing for years, very twangy, ringing tones in octave above middle C, especially F & F#, & as I said, Middle C went bad in only 15 months. Action on DEP-20 pretty heavy, arms hurt when first got it. I'm so confused what to buy, I need a piano that will last a long long time under $1000. This looks great but is the sampling better? The action? The longevity of it working properly?
Hi Jeremy. Frustratingly I cannot find the SE-1 on the Donner UK website. Are you able to tell me what the nearest equivalent model here in the UK is please? Thanks ahead.
Have you managed to connect the piano to the PC in MIDI mode with Bluetooth? For me it is impossible, it recognizes it and connects but it immediately disconnects and you cannot use this function:(
You might want to give the link in your description to the digital piano with the stand. The link you have now is only to the digital piano without the stand.
Huge difference I can see. I have the Dep-20 , it has no bluetooth capability and the keys are very very heavy. While good for beginner to strengthen fingers it's harder to play. This one looks better.
I purchased this for my kids for Christmas. I am very disappointed in the performance. It sounds out of tune in the mid range notes. The right speaker buzzes right out of the box. I did like the bluetooth connectivity. It's nice to play along with your favorite songs. I should have stuck with my gut and got a Yamaha. At least Amazon makes returns easy!
Hello Jeremy, thank you for your recommendations and infomations on various 88 keys keyboard. Would like to know where can I purchase the Donner SE-1 keyboard?
Hi @Jeremy See ,(1) is there any weighted keys on keyboard like 61 keys( not piano) which gives the piano feel , if any, what do you reccomend( cheapest) and (2) is there any benefits on 88 keys for beginner? is it a must, if one can get ? do you reccomend artesia pe 88 keyboard?
Bought one based on your review. Mine does not sound as good as yours. Would probably compare the grand piano sound to a cheap casio sound. I was going to use it with high quality midi library anyway but still... Dont buy that thinking it is a good standalone stage piano.
Hello Jeremy , thanks again for a nice and comprehensive review! One question , i have the budget for the newly announced ES120 from kawaii from my understanding is a slightly improved ES110. Is the price justified or can i save some money by picking this Donner model?
Jeremy, which keyboard would you recommend for songwriting and working with DAW? Donner SE-1, Casio CDP-S360 or perhaps Numa Compact 2? I have been using upright piano and ancient Roland W30 sampling workstation for quite a long time and now need something more practical.
What do you think about the Thomann dp28plus.is this epiano compareable. I am looking for my First epiano and it should be good enough to Play a Long Time. Another competitor is the Roland p30x.
hi jeremy. i wanted to ask u a question. what digital piano should i ( a beginner) buy under a 1000$ and would u be so kind to also write a few more options just to have an idea? thankyou either way!
Hello I wanted to buy this but what a difference with the wooden base. In my country there is a difference of 160 dollars. Is it worth it? Does this one include the three pedals that the other one has? Sorry is that I am new to this I used translator hahaha
Just got this piano brand new. when you plug it in power is already on, and will play music. If you press the power button, little blue light comes on but makes no difference. So basically the only way to turn it off is to unplug it. Anyone else experience this? Any fix available?
Hi Jeremy, a year ago you said the Alesis Prestige Artist was the best beginner piano for 600$. Does it still hold true? Because I'm considering the cdp-s360, especially because of the key feel, but I wanted to know your opinion on it 😅
None of digital pianos are beginner pianos:). As I remember, one later famous composer at some point of his life was so poor he couldn't afford even to rent a piano, so what he did? He painted piano keyboard on a table surface and practiced this way. I guess it's a better method to learn piano than start with a digital keyboard or you constantly will be producing abomination of sound like this one at 1:35.
@@alicaramba7680 ".....abomination of sound like this one at 1:35......" What makes that so terrible? Yes, it sounds like recordings of a piano - because it is - and its dynamics are a bit compressed, because they have to be. Is it that you can't shape the tone with the graceful, elaborate hand and finger action of a properly-trained concert pianist, so you never learn to do so? I notice that Mr. See does not have that technique, or doesn't use it here.
Jeremy, thank you so much for this informative video tutorial. I am trying to do Audio and MIDI Recording on the Yamaha DGX670 using Cakewalk by Bandlab and I have been able to record an audio track and play it back but I have been unable to record the Soft Piano. Could you please explain how to setup the keyboard and Cakewalk so that the MIDI Soft Piano plug in will be recorded and not my local strings? You describe how to use Function Control in one of your tutorials about a year ago but the Yamaha DGX670 only has a MIDI control section and I can't figure out the appropriate settings. Your help would be greatly appreciated by me and my fellow DGX670 subscribers?
Jeremy I have a really important question I'm trying to get a new keyboard and I really need help choosing which is better the Yamaha ypt-260 or the Yamaha PSR EW 373/310
Just bought the SE-1 a couple of minutes ago during their sale for $410 (US). Personally, I won't be able to tell if it is actually good or not as I don't know how to play piano! But I will be able to tell if something works or not :) I hope it at least sounds good, although much of that is in the hands of the player.
@@priscilaveloso1873kind of late but I’ve had an se-1 for about 3-4 months so I thought I’d reply. Personally as someone who is only a beginner/intermediate pianist this is a very good keyboard especially for the price. Starting with the biggest negatives I’d say the sustain pedal and the sound. For sound, I’m not saying it’s bad, but I would say that good but not great. 7.5 out of 10 or maybe even an 8. I’m my experience certain notes have a kind of metallic ring to them and if you hold the sustain pedal to long that ring will become very noticeable. On one hand I don’t really mind it to much because it keeps me from rely on the pedal. My issue with the pedal isn’t actually even the pedal itself, but the build of the input. It has pronged design which I’ve never seen on another keyboard, and mine came broken out of the box. The company was helpful in replacing it but just now that the design is prone to breaking imo. Other than that i really have no issues. It’s not that this keyboard does things bad, but the more expensive and established brands do things better.
Hello sir good morning i have my yamaha EOS ys200 but i dont have the voice card. How can i add the tone or voice on this keyboard sir can you help me please? Thank you in advance
... And compared to NH as well, Jeremy? This one's pivot length doesn't look too short in this video, which might be a good sign, but how do you find it actually?
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While this arranger digital piano is certainly impressive for the price, there are a few things that a potential buyer needs to be aware of when compared to the Yamaha DGX-670 and Korg XE20, particularly from the performer point of view. Talking specifically about arrangers: I have owned a couple of Yamaha PSR-S arrangers (PSR-S770 and PSR-S910), Roland BK-7M arranger module, Korg PA60 professional arranger, Casio CDP-S350, Yamaha DGX-660, and now the Yamaha DGX-670 arranger digital piano. The DGX-670 costs $350 more than the Donner SE-1 here in the US, and the price difference is worth it if you can afford it, and these are some of the practical reasons why:
1) The Yamaha DGX-670 has a feature called "AI Fingering" which allows the player to play on the entire keyboard rather than being forced to play a 3-note chord on the left hand. Doing so limits your creativity and the authenticity of the performance. You can play very expressively the piano voice with both hands (once again, not having to press a simple 3-note chord on the left) and still get a full accompaniment behind you. From a practical perspective, that's huge. I would advice potential buyers to look beyond the specifications on paper and look for the little details that mean a lot, depending on how you plan to use the instrument. In addition, the DGX-670 has a button called "Simple", which allows you to instantly remove all backing track instruments except the bass and drum, also very important to be able to do when playing live.
2) The DGX-670 has 4 professional style variations instead of two (Donner), 3 intros and 3 endings instead of one, and a high quality piano sound that can be tweaked. The Korg XE20 has the same old arranger engine of the Korg PA60, an arranger keyboard I bought back in 2000. It was a big deal back then, but now it shows its age a bit, and has been replaced by more advanced arranger engines in the current Korg models. The Korg XE20 simply recycles the old PA60 arranger, whereas the Yamaha DGX-670 features current styles found in the PSR-S series. The 2 main piano voices of the Korg XE20 (German and Italian) don't sound very good. Korg has never been in the same league as Yamaha when it comes to piano sounds.
3) The DGX-670 features a 5-band parametric equalizer. Parametric equalizers are not the same as graphic equalizers, they are much more powerful. This feature alone costs about $300 on the cheap side if you want it in a hardware module. And Yamaha manufactures professional mixers. This is much more than just the typical 3-band equalizer you find on some digital pianos. It allows you to get the proper sound when connected to a PA system, particularly for piano sounds, which are notoriously difficult to EQ right.
4) Built-in microphone mixer with effects.
In addition to those 4 features, important for live playing, there are many other that are still important:
5) The DGX-670 has a ported speaker system that produces a proper full range sound. Don't look at the wattage specifications: they are pretty meaningless in real life, you will not consume more than 1 or 2 watts of amplifier power in practice, even at full volume, and that can be shown with a power meter. Look instead at the speaker enclosure and size of the drivers. The Donner SE-1 has an open back configuration with smaller speakers, therefore there is no proper enclosure to produce bass. In this regard, it will perform similar to other digital pianos, such as the Yamaha P125, Kawai ES110/120 or Roland FP30X. This is important if you don't want to use an external speaker with a proper enclosure (for example, a studio monitor).
6) The 3 cm monochromatic LCD screen provided by Donner is basic, compared to the 11 cm color screen in the DGX-670.
7) The DGX-670 has a built-in USB Audio Interface, not to be confused with Bluetooth Audio or USB to Device/Host. The audio interface allows you to record audio directly to a DAW in a computer. This saves you money on an external audio interface, which are not cheap either. Plus, you have a very powerful way to control your recordings via the DGX-670 menus.
When it comes to weight: the Donner SE-1 is half the weight of the DGX-670, which makes it much more comfortable to carry. The DGX-670 has a large particle board on the bottom that makes it heavy. So, it is portable, but quite heavy. However, if you don't plan to move it very often, this is not really an issue.
I would choose the SE-1 is you gig a lot, want something very light and are bothered by the extra weight of the DGX-670, won't use the advanced auto-accompaniment features (AI fingering), and don't need the built-in microphone mixer. All in all, if you plan to use an arranger digital piano as the single source of sounds in a "one-man-band" live playing situation with a full band accompanying you while you play full piano pieces with both hands beyond the 3-note chord, then the Yamaha DGX-670 is the best choice out there.
Except the DGX-670 & XE20 cost *TWICE* as much. 🤭
I also have multiple keyboards including the DGX-670. All the points made above by Instrumental Covers are absolutely correct and valid - as are Jeremy's. The Yamaha DGX-670 is a class-leading digital piano (with some arranger functionality). But in the "budget" segment Donner has improved their products quite a bit (at least in terms of offering more features). I think perhaps the best summary is what Jeremy said at 12:42 So if you can only afford the $499 Donner it is a very good value AT ITS PRICE POINT. However, if you can wait and continue to save up the additional $ for a DGX-670 you will get a BETTER INSTRUMENT in almost every way.
Korg always doing that silly shit. The i3 has the same sound.
Woah! Didn't expect to see you here too!🎹🎶
It seems that Donner is starting to have some quality in their digital piano products!
I've been skeptical of Donner, but this sounds like it might be a good deal.
I’m so glad to hear this review. Donner is really coming up and we’ll deservedly so. Their guitars are getting very good reviews and now this keyboard seems to be very good too.
Ahh, that intro with "Your Lie in April" ost
😉
YEES, a pleasant surprise
I was looking for an appreciation comment.
Eyy Someone else noticed
Yes 😢😭
Hey Jeremy....Good to see you reviewing again. With the lack of new instruments, it's great to have some new products showing up. Nice overview of this value added keyboard, wonderful connectivity features. Be well, stay safe...
Thanks for the video Jeremy. I just purchased this keyboard. And I am so pleased you found it a good value and sounding good. I am a beginner, a guitar player really for 42 years. I always wanted a decent Electric piano to learn the basics and keep around for years of enjoyment. Looking forward to playing soon...
Glad I could help!
This surely is a very informative and useful review! Well done, brother! I finally subscribed to your channel now so I won't miss any of your great reviews anymore!
I knew nothing about this donner brand, and now i think it will be in my target.
I heard you say that Donner listens to client's complaints. Well, I hope at least Donner will finally produce the most-wished narrow-keys piano for smaller hands (5.5'' per octave). That will not require any electronic improvement, so the shortage of chips is of no importance. But it will be an extraordinary benefit for many players with small hands (especially kids and women) and also a benefit for the company, as more begginers wil not quit playing due to hand pains, and many will choose Donner in spite of any technical or musical deficiencies.
This makes such a huge difference! I have played on an old 19th century piano that had narrower keys than the now-standard 6.5" per octave. I'm not sure exactly how much narrower it was, but it wasn't enough to throw off my muscle memory. It was an absolute joy to play on, and my hands are only a bit smaller than average for a male (~8.5" span). On a standard piano, octaves are comfortable, and ninths are reachable but uncomfortable. On the smaller width piano, tenths were easily reached, and ninths were a tiny bit more playable than octaves on the standard.
Good luck with that request.
Key dimensions and even the narrow spacing between keys are almost always kept within a narrow window of specifications.
I bought this piano and is amazing
Beautiful playing 😊
Watashi No Uso so beautiful man 😭 Your Lie in April made me cry fr
Since you have reviewed both the Donner DEP-20 and now the Donner SE-1, I would like to know if the sound package/tones has been upgraded on the SE-1 or is it basically the same digital sound package found on the older DEP-20? I've also seen reviews for the DEP-20 that talk about some slop/side to side movement of the keys on the DEP-20 that can cause them to clack together. How is the key movement (side to side) on the SE-1....can the keys hit each other if your run your finger down the keyboard?
Do you think the extra $100 for the SE-1 is worth it over the less expensive DEP-20.
What did you find out? is the SE-1 better than the DEP-20?
I would like to know too.
I finally bought the Korg ES20. and this one seems to be the same but cheaper!
Jeremy, thank you for the beautiful demonstration. By the way, I am enjoying and learning many new things about music in your keyboard piano course thank you
Thank you for your kind support ❤️
Bang for the buck is an understatement... Bravo Donner!
I love your reviews! Thank you so much!
My order for a DEP-20 was due for delivery yesterday but is delayed by amazon, now I know why! I think I will pick up one of these instead, Thanks for the review Jeremy
That piece is from Your Lie in April. Very beautiful
I'm not even an intermediate piano player and the keys still feel quite light. lighter than I expected
Thanks for the nice demo Jeremy. You did keep some of us guessing though. I couldn't find anything in the description except a couple of links. The one for this instrument doesn't work too well in Europe. In fact, I didn't know the model name till almost 7 minutes into the video.
I noticed that you played the Moonlight Sonata much more smoothly with this piano than with the unweighted actions you sometimes demonstrate. Now I begin to see how well you really can play.
It's a USA model for now buddy. Thanks for the compliment
@@JeremySee You're welcome. And I guess the SE-1 is still "illegal" in Europe. 🤣
PS The Santos Experimental bi-plane "SE1" was one of the very first aircraft to be used in WW1.
what would be the main diference betwen this one and the dep 20? im having trouble deciding thank you for your time
Would you recommend this over the DEP-20 model? I am looking for a beginner's piano to learn to play chords.
Hmmmmmmmyes an YLIA Ost at the beginning, let the feels flow through you~
Also quite interested on this one, might keep an eye on this one.
The YLIA piece 🧡
Your Lie in April intro.. Nice!
The problem with these cheap things often is not that they are no good, out of the box.
Things like the pickup rubbers for the keys however, tend to wear fast (cheap quality) and often by the time you need them (3-8 years) the company doesn't exist anymore or doesnt make the needed rubbers.
If you get 4-5 great years of play from a $400 piano then you've gotten more than your money's worth! 😉
Very impressive for the price point!
This dude's voice 📈📉📈📉
I combined Amazon Prime Day Deal with some gift cards and picked one up for $180.00. Thanks for the review.
Wow! Congratulations 🎉
Hi Jeremy. Apologies for the dumb question but can this keyboard be used to play software instruments like the synths in Logic Pro or Arturia Analog Lab? Thank you very much.
Which one is best, SE-1 or Roland RP107 ?
Thank you for the review
Great video, and awesome digital piano for price, especially from a great brand, though not among the top well known and trusted companies.
I just happen to be using $130 JBL BT headphones, and it sounds great, at least with the tones you demonstrated, with sone unique timbres.
As you described, a good choice for beginners, to moderate, and maybe advanced players that are not so apt to nitpick an instrument this price, that need a weighted 88 note keyboard.
For any keyboard that is not battery power capable, the AC power adapter and chords should be included.
And the simpler on off sustain pedal like the Roland DP-2 would be nice to come included. But it's great that this keyboard is provided with a piano type damper pedal, and headphones is a great bonus to be included.
It's nice to have the stereo L/R 1/4" audio out jacks, and the 1/4" inch headphone jack at the front of the keyboard, along with the USB jack.
The new Roland E-X50 also has the 1/4" headphone jack at the front, but should also have put the USB-A jack for a flash/thumb drive likewise, such as is on the Roland V-Combo VR-09B.
You pretty much covered everything else well. I agree with what you said regarding its use/application and the end user passenger.
As much as I like the Casio CT-S1000V I will scrutinize the new Rolsnd E-X50. From the few videos I have watched, it looks nice with the red trim. 256 note polyphony, great sounds and loud speakers, and costing less than the Casio, and also the Yamaha PSR-EW425, albeit with only 61 keys vs. 76 keys.
Since keyboard is a high i terest, and aspiration, but not my primary activity, Ibwill hold of on the new keyboard, and focus on playing with my Go:Keys, JD-Xi and PSS-A50, and try out the Roland multitrack mobile software get the Go:Mixer Pro X, the iPad Mini and the Zoom Hr4n Pro portable digital audio recorder. I new iPhone SE has Garage Band and iMovie app software.
And get the new MacBook Air as my main computer, and possibly the Roland Fantom-06/07 later.
I'm waiting for the E-X50 to reach Singapore. 😉
@@JeremySee Youvtruly master the arranger keyboard if you can play it, and not sound like one.
The Go:Keys is similar to an arranger keyboard, but marketed as a music creation keyboard, and the phrase loop feature works in a totally different way. You have several styles, but for each style, each octive is a different part with each key in the part a different variation, so it has more potential to sound natural if you master the interface and features.
I am glad to see this video but read that action on DONNER is bad. I have DEP-20 for a year & 3 mos. & it started getting on my nerves as the sound not great, but was all I could afford(Im not a beginner). But now it has a LOUD Middle C, which happened to my 1st Donner(they replaced free with this one). I want to upgrade but am Leary of getting newest DONNER & having same problem, plus u didn't mention if they've upgraded the grand piano sampling? And could u do a video on fixing a loud key? The DEP-20 will bother anyone who has been playing for years, very twangy, ringing tones in octave above middle C, especially F & F#, & as I said, Middle C went bad in only 15 months. Action on DEP-20 pretty heavy, arms hurt when first got it. I'm so confused what to buy, I need a piano that will last a long long time under $1000. This looks great but is the sampling better? The action? The longevity of it working properly?
Love the tune you're playing at 2:38. What is it?
What's the name of that minor key waltz you played after the Beethoven?
Just listening to your lie in april in starting made me happy ;)
HI!!! Good video!!! Please, what's the tone's name starts at 9:21?? Thanks!!!!!
Is there a way to lower the entire keyboard by ONE octave? This is too high and I feel like I'm falling off the left side :(
Hi Jeremy. Frustratingly I cannot find the SE-1 on the Donner UK website. Are you able to tell me what the nearest equivalent model here in the UK is please? Thanks ahead.
What song did you play with the acoustic guitar? I need to have it. Thanks!
thank you for this!
Proper 5 pin din MIDI ports Wow thank you Donner !!!
When is this piano available in the Uk ?
Is the model number SE 1 ?
Yes SE-1 will be available in Europe once production improves.
Should I buy Yamaha PSR E473 or Donner SEE-1 as an absolute beginner but serious about long term practice
Have you managed to connect the piano to the PC in MIDI mode with Bluetooth? For me it is impossible, it recognizes it and connects but it immediately disconnects and you cannot use this function:(
I am learn now
You might want to give the link in your description to the digital piano with the stand. The link you have now is only to the digital piano without the stand.
Great review thanks Jeremy! What is the difference between this and the DEP-20? I've looked on Donner's site and they look almost exactly the same?
Huge difference I can see. I have the Dep-20 , it has no bluetooth capability and the keys are very very heavy. While good for beginner to strengthen fingers it's harder to play. This one looks better.
@@janeS9773 but which piano has a more realistic key weight compared to an acoustic piano? Your DEP-20 or this SE-1? Do you know?
What was the song you played during the beginning (0:19) Very simple, elegant.
I m about to buy my first piano . One of Freind is selling Yamaha p125 . Would you buy donner se1 or p 125. Please guide me. Thanks
Get the Yamaha🎹🎶
I purchased this for my kids for Christmas. I am very disappointed in the performance. It sounds out of tune in the mid range notes. The right speaker buzzes right out of the box.
I did like the bluetooth connectivity. It's nice to play along with your favorite songs. I should have stuck with my gut and got a Yamaha. At least Amazon makes returns easy!
I have a suggestion for you Jeremy, can you video some review of panasonic sx-np10 digital piano thank you.
Woww, Watashi No Uso!!
Hello Jeremy, thank you for your recommendations and infomations on various 88 keys keyboard. Would like to know where can I purchase the Donner SE-1 keyboard?
Arima kousei ❤️
do you think this keyboard would be good candidate for Native Instruments Komplete. I also looking at the yamaha MOXF8
Hi @Jeremy See ,(1) is there any weighted keys on keyboard like 61 keys( not piano) which gives the piano feel , if any, what do you reccomend( cheapest) and (2) is there any benefits on 88 keys for beginner? is it a must, if one can get ? do you reccomend artesia pe 88 keyboard?
That doesn’t exist. The smaller hammer action you can find is in some 76 keys synths.
Bought one based on your review. Mine does not sound as good as yours. Would probably compare the grand piano sound to a cheap casio sound. I was going to use it with high quality midi library anyway but still... Dont buy that thinking it is a good standalone stage piano.
Hi Jeremy, greetings from the USA, i have a question, are you going to review de Roland e-x50? thanks in advance
I can not find this piano anywhere. not amazon, nor the web of dinner. Why?
Hello Jeremy , thanks again for a nice and comprehensive review!
One question , i have the budget for the newly announced ES120 from kawaii from my understanding is a slightly improved ES110. Is the price justified or can i save some money by picking this Donner model?
If you really care about the sound go for the ES 120🎹🎶
Jeremy, which keyboard would you recommend for songwriting and working with DAW? Donner SE-1, Casio CDP-S360 or perhaps Numa Compact 2? I have been using upright piano and ancient Roland W30 sampling workstation for quite a long time and now need something more practical.
Can batteries also be used to play this piano?
What do you think about the Thomann dp28plus.is this epiano compareable. I am looking for my First epiano and it should be good enough to Play a Long Time. Another competitor is the Roland p30x.
hi jeremy. i wanted to ask u a question. what digital piano should i ( a beginner) buy under a 1000$ and would u be so kind to also write a few more options just to have an idea? thankyou either way!
omg this is challenging my yamaha p121 choice of purchase
Ha ha. I like the 73-key compactness of p121, which is a rare feature
How are the dynamics? Especially compared to others like the Casio PX-S1100?
Can u pls tell that Casio cdps 110 and Casio privia pxs 1100 have same sound quality?
Hello I wanted to buy this but what a difference with the wooden base. In my country there is a difference of 160 dollars. Is it worth it? Does this one include the three pedals that the other one has? Sorry is that I am new to this
I used translator hahaha
Is the keyboard easily detachable from the stand?
Just got this piano brand new. when you plug it in power is already on, and will play music. If you press the power button, little blue light comes on but makes no difference. So basically the only way to turn it off is to unplug it. Anyone else experience this? Any fix available?
You need to press for 3 seconds
what's the song at 2:35?
I want to know too. It is wonderfully bittersweet.
Merry-go-round of life @@ticarot
Hi Jeremy, a year ago you said the Alesis Prestige Artist was the best beginner piano for 600$. Does it still hold true? Because I'm considering the cdp-s360, especially because of the key feel, but I wanted to know your opinion on it 😅
None of digital pianos are beginner pianos:). As I remember, one later famous composer at some point of his life was so poor he couldn't afford even to rent a piano, so what he did? He painted piano keyboard on a table surface and practiced this way. I guess it's a better method to learn piano than start with a digital keyboard or you constantly will be producing abomination of sound like this one at 1:35.
@@alicaramba7680 ".....abomination of sound like this one at 1:35......"
What makes that so terrible?
Yes, it sounds like recordings of a piano - because it is - and its dynamics are a bit compressed, because they have to be. Is it that you can't shape the tone with the graceful, elaborate hand and finger action of a properly-trained concert pianist, so you never learn to do so? I notice that Mr. See does not have that technique, or doesn't use it here.
how would you compare this to the donner dep-20
Hey Jeremy, sorry to ask again but could you review the Alesis Recital 61 keys.
Jeremy, thank you so much for this informative video tutorial. I am trying to do Audio and MIDI Recording on the Yamaha DGX670 using Cakewalk by Bandlab and I have been able to record an audio track and play it back but I have been unable to record the Soft Piano. Could you please explain how to setup the keyboard and Cakewalk so that the MIDI Soft Piano plug in will be recorded and not my local strings? You describe how to use Function Control in one of your tutorials about a year ago but the Yamaha DGX670 only has a MIDI control section and I can't figure out the appropriate settings. Your help would be greatly appreciated by me and my fellow DGX670 subscribers?
Jeremy I have a really important question I'm trying to get a new keyboard and I really need help choosing which is better the Yamaha ypt-260 or the Yamaha PSR EW 373/310
Just bought the SE-1 a couple of minutes ago during their sale for $410 (US).
Personally, I won't be able to tell if it is actually good or not as I don't know how to play piano! But I will be able to tell if something works or not :) I hope it at least sounds good, although much of that is in the hands of the player.
What is your feedback after 2 months?
@@priscilaveloso1873kind of late but I’ve had an se-1 for about 3-4 months so I thought I’d reply. Personally as someone who is only a beginner/intermediate pianist this is a very good keyboard especially for the price.
Starting with the biggest negatives I’d say the sustain pedal and the sound. For sound, I’m not saying it’s bad, but I would say that good but not great. 7.5 out of 10 or maybe even an 8. I’m my experience certain notes have a kind of metallic ring to them and if you hold the sustain pedal to long that ring will become very noticeable. On one hand I don’t really mind it to much because it keeps me from rely on the pedal. My issue with the pedal isn’t actually even the pedal itself, but the build of the input. It has pronged design which I’ve never seen on another keyboard, and mine came broken out of the box. The company was helpful in replacing it but just now that the design is prone to breaking imo. Other than that i really have no issues. It’s not that this keyboard does things bad, but the more expensive and established brands do things better.
How many leves of sound does the piano has in the dinamycs?
Hello sir good morning i have my yamaha EOS ys200 but i dont have the voice card. How can i add the tone or voice on this keyboard sir can you help me please? Thank you in advance
Pls review Kawai digital pianos.
Not listed in UK.
Donner se1 o Donner dep 20
It seems unavailable in uk on Amazon
Which piece did you play at 2.47.
Thank you. But how about naming the piano? :) The link only leads to amazon listing som books.
The model number is shown many times in the video.
Is there any keyboard like Casio MZ-X500 ?
Glad to hear some anime pianos
Jermy make a video on korg pa 5x
This
How's the action compared to Korg's RH3?
... And compared to NH as well, Jeremy? This one's pivot length doesn't look too short in this video, which might be a good sign, but how do you find it actually?
Can you review Artesia Performer, it's an 88 key keyboard and a lot cheaper
What are the title for song at 0:19 time ? That’s really good song
Your lie in April ost, really recommend the anime btw
Cassio ctx3000 or e463 ? Please help me
The Yamaha e 473 is 100 % better than the e463 ( the e463 is old old technology)
In age of AI,shouldn't be such a problem to make electric piano to have such features. Just make good firmware for 32-bit system, in essence.
Hlo brother good afternoon I'm from Sri Lanka
Korg disliked this.
SE1 vs CDPS360＋CS470P vs XE20SP
Get those wrists up. Not good hand position.