ILL staff here, yes formosa is determined to be harder than cyclolcyc, cyc was never top 1 technically by this evaluation. ALSO THIS LEVEL IS NOT NEW, other lists are theoretically possible and not known to be (other than the silent levels list)
Formosa was added to the list only 15 days after Cyclolcyc. Formosa got robbed so hard. It's like if Tidal Wave was verified in 2020 but was placed at around where Zodiac is now
@@czjr6197 pill arent even possible (for example ton 618 which needs like 500k cps that is basically nothing to ppll and tpll but you cant beat it without noclip because some jumps are impossible on anyr refresh rate like the 1st jump) but tpll is the hardest list that is possible
For all the 7 year olds, ton 618 isn't the hardest level. Ton 618 isn't even the top of its own list. Instead, it places at number 40 on the physically impossible levels list.
You would be surprised to also hear that codependence was above tartarus on the ILL before the demonlist decided to rank 2p levels by how hard it is to do solo
alot of the comments talking about cyclolcyc and just for reference cyclolcyc only requires around 2-3k fps and formosa requiring 20k fps as he said in the vid.
nope, TPLL actually got updated a couple weeks ago, check it out. also, you may want to update your intuition on “infinity”; no matter how big of a number you can imagine, it’ll always be closer to 0 than to infinity
@@Jemanthapustax evasion was removed because the creator threw a tantrum after it was moved back to #2 and requested all his levels to be removed cuz ILL doesnt respect its creators
Yeah, the ill underestimated formosa in terms of difficulty and it’s actually harder than cyclolcyc, but cyclolcyc is still really close in terms of difficulty because of so many gimmicks and it is still top 1 in my opinion, and I think that cyclolcyc is basically the Tartarus of the ILL
@@2000yearslaterrrwell yeah, I just meant no rules for it’s difficulty, like the impossible levels list doesn’t have levels that have more than 15 cps, but the theoretically possible levels list has levels that are trillions of years of clicking at ungodly high speeds
Not to be a nerd but the actual hardest level is emptiness by physimpossible. Its a level that is 42 octillion years long with crash triggers and a saw following you for the entire level. Its top one on the PILL (Physically Impossible Levels List)
It’s theoretically not possible for anybody because of x positions. For example if I say we go 10 to the power of 100 blocks your icon would freeze in place making emptiness not possible.
The only one of them that is on the i'll is tax evasión, the other levels have parts that reach more than 15 Clicks oer second, and the ill only has levels that don't exceed 15 cps
@@GPR_GDwhat. Tax Evasion was harder, just removed at the creator’s request. Ton 618 is physically impossible, Tower, PPLLife & Nessus is banned off the SLL (ILL with no CPS limit) and is only allowed on the Physically Possible Level List, the list of the hardest physically possible levels, no restrictions. Tower is pretty low on the list now but harder than anything on the SLL & ILL by a extremely large margin. Same for Nessus which is around top 10 and PPLLife hanging in at 5th. All of these make the entirety of the SLL & ILL and pretty much any non-PPLL level look empty in comparison.
Ton 618 is impossible. Tax evasion is a former ILL top 1 but not SLL Top 1 or PPLL top 1. PPLLife and Nessus are former PPLL top 1 or the hardest levels in game but not anymore. The hardest is currently Nessus is Dead.
Levels in tpll are so hard that comparing a blank level to formosa speedhacked up to be beaten in Planck time then repeated for the entire lifetime of the universe will still won’t be as much difference in difficulty compared to the difference in difficulty of the #2 tpll level and #1 tpll level
Wouldn’t count as they are not even possible to bot, Formosa is technically possible but would never be beaten by the sheer difficulty meanwhile the tpll even if it’s called “theoretically possible”, can have physically impossible levels in it. Be smarter.
@ The levels in tpll are not possible because a game engine powerful enough to run and beat them cannot be created in our own universe. Our universe is finite and cannot make game engines that run levels this difficult. Your perspective refers to the limits of our own universe and what can be done with it. What I mean at the other hand is “possibility in game mechanics” and not our own limits we live on. I am pretty sure you wouldn’t say this if we weren’t beings with finite power and knowledge.
@@NicolasManI even if the PILL is mentioned, TON 618 still isn’t the hardest. And I despise TON 618 meat riders because who would like an impossible level with a mediocre song and extremely boring gameplay
Formosa is not a new level, and the hardest level is emptiness by eulernum, which is physically impossible in difficulty, is 400 octillion (that's a 4 followed by 25 zeroes) years long, and if we only want to talk about possible levels, it's Last Hope by jako33 requiring, at least according to the list, f lim(BMS)+ε₀(505) fps to beat (which in all honesty I don't know what it means but epsilon is a very big number)
Thực ra level Formosa mới là level top 1 khó hơn tidal wave, thực chất nằm ở top 695, Formosa còn khó hơn cả tidal wave, Acheron, limbo, Vân Vân. Với lại level Formosa cần 21k fps lận, với lại có lẽ robtop lỡ cho sneak peek 2.21 là explorers nên chắc robtop đang làm level explorers , hoặc có thể ông robtop cho level firebird trở lại.
There are actually harder levels as the ones from "The Impossible levels list" are physically possible at a certain framerate however there also are physically impossible levels which can't be beaten no matter what like a 4 block tall wall
The most difficult levels are the levels that are physically impossible or those that have Unknown Difficulty such as Silent full or some Levels that are already practically impossible in their entirety, such as ballistik silent Stormenting or one called ppliffe that is very exaggerated, less impossible than ballistik but it is crazy
sll, ppll (and if you dont care about it actually being possible in the current game engine) tpll contain more than ill i mean, they have inhuman cps and last unimagineable times
youre not gonna believe me when i say that theres a list called the phisically possible levels list (ppll) with levels way harder than the one on the ILL
@@samuel27294 not correct, there’s a reason why PPLL is in the name of the level, it’s because PPLLLife was never meant to be possible and only meant to be a top 1 in the PPLL, Formosa is technically possible but would never be beaten because of the sheer difficulty while PPLLLife will never be beaten regardless of fps because of the end seemingly breaking all the rules in the ILL and making it last longer than the universe itself, therefore it doesn’t count
Hardest level is probably "PAMKA NEVER CLEAR X" you need to do TREE(3) clicks in the start of the level, then you have to beat challenge, its definitely impossiblest level (TREE(3) ITS NOT THREE CLICKS, THIS IS MORE THAN GRAHAM'S NUMBER)
Bru:skull: PAMKA NEVER CLEAR is a top 1 from the HLL aka the “Hardest levels list” which is basically the ILL but with almost no restrictions and PAMKA NEVER CLEAR is physically and theoretically impossible due to it just being a spammy level that needs you to click bogus amounts in very small amounts of time, meanwhile Formosa is an ILL level that recently got moved up higher than cyclolcyc and is the new top 1, just because there’s impossible in the name doesn’t mean that the HLL, PPLL,PILL and TPLL is mentioned.
nah, those levels are boring. half of their “difficulty” usually just consists of forcing you to click an absurdly large number of times to unlock a barrier at the end
CYCLOCYC GOT DETHRONED WHAT
Not even
@@A-602.0It did by Formosa
Oh
Before formosa was easier
Nooooo
ILL staff here, yes formosa is determined to be harder than cyclolcyc, cyc was never top 1 technically by this evaluation. ALSO THIS LEVEL IS NOT NEW, other lists are theoretically possible and not known to be (other than the silent levels list)
thats crazy ngl i was looking at how formosa crept up the list
I meant new as it only just recently got top 1 my apologies! ^^^^
Also not including any levels from other lists like PPLL and TPL cuz the universe literally wouldn’t exist by the time you beat them 😭
@@SecretWayGDBut “ Last hope “ is short level (top 1 TPLL)
@@Кто-то-з3г6р damn near infinitely harder than formosa too😭
Y’all did cyclolyc get dethroned?
Yes
Formosa got moved above it
I have not seen the impossible levels list
Formosa
well not really formosa has always been harder than cyclolcyc it's just that only now people realized it was harder
Formosa was added to the list only 15 days after Cyclolcyc. Formosa got robbed so hard. It's like if Tidal Wave was verified in 2020 but was placed at around where Zodiac is now
Literally anything on the SLL, PPLL, or TPLL is at least 10000x harder than formosa
Yeah but almost all of them are straight up physically impossible, and there's no charm in that
@@chrisalexopoulos3532*Physically Possible* Levels List (PPLL)
*Theoretically Possible* Levels List (TPLL)
You think those are hard, wait till you hear about *the PILL*
@@czjr6197 pill is not hard at all, they are all literally physically impossible💀
@@czjr6197 pill arent even possible (for example ton 618 which needs like 500k cps that is basically nothing to ppll and tpll but you cant beat it without noclip because some jumps are impossible on anyr refresh rate like the 1st jump) but tpll is the hardest list that is possible
21,000 FPS!!!! Thats crazy!!!! Literally this level humbled Tidal Wave and some upcoming top 1s lol
It’s impossible what do you expect 😂
it is humanly impossible to complete. it didn’t humble anything because you can’t even play it. Just say you don’t know ball
Well no shit its harder than tidal wave, its impossible
Dead internet theory
Newgen
For all the 7 year olds, ton 618 isn't the hardest level. Ton 618 isn't even the top of its own list. Instead, it places at number 40 on the physically impossible levels list.
You predicted a video. How do you feel?
@garryamddavid100😂😂😂
@garryamddavid100 bro had the biggest crashout on ton 618
"For all the 7 year olds" 🤓☝️
-The 10 year old
Back on track will forever be the hardest level
yeah i dont get how its not top of the impossible levels
@@3pic_gamer yea it’s so hard people just don’t notice it
@@3pic_gamerit got removed from every list for being way too hard bro ton 618 don’t got no nothin on back on track
pls stop your not funny
@@Penstyy it is turning a bit bland tho because of how generally overused the joke is
There’s a difference between physically possible and humanly possible.
*theoretically possible and physically possible
*Ballistic Wistfully, Tax Evasion, CYCLOCYC crying in the corner*
formosa is miles harder than bw
@@icespirit explain.
@@SauceHighInMath explain what? the only thing bw has it length (and 2p) formosa is harder in every single way
@@icespirit aight you got a point 👍
I mean the creator is sesame guy
It’s actually Ton 6- “gets hit by a baseball bat”
Bro dethroned cyclcoc💀
OH MY FREAKING GOD THANKS I DIDN'T EVEN BEG FOR LIKES. FIRST TIME 240 WTF?
циклосос я не могу
I can't understand anytging w/ the Russian lang but ok.
yeah and i remember it being lower than cyclocyc
i guess eightos decided to buff the level
@@thecrusaders-t4x it's a buffed version?
@@SapphireGD-strawcupcake9 no its the same they just misjudged how hard it is
In fact, the hardest level is always changing.
physically, you can beat a unbuffed MINUSclub
physically, you can beat a macrobuffed PPLLLife
If you put Formosa on low detail mode, the level is blank.
doesn’t count
tidal wave at 695th is crazy
You would be surprised to also hear that codependence was above tartarus on the ILL before the demonlist decided to rank 2p levels by how hard it is to do solo
For anyone wondering the music on bg is: detriit become human kara escape ost, or Detroit become human stormy night ost
Aint no way cyclcoc got dethroned
cyclcoc
@獾 clycloc
Tidal Wave being only 695th on the list
"I was honestly surprised"
Fun fact: Formosa is the name of a city in Argentina
i live in Formosa
we bouta need the Nasa computer for 21000 fps
Yeah we will see someone beat it when they have RTX 9090 Ti Ryzen 9 19050x3D 2Tb of ram. And it might run at 21000 FPS
Rtx 9090 ti gonna be as big as russia
And by coincidence the verifier will be from Formosa (there is a providence in Argentina called Formosa).
Nah you'd only need a Ryzen 4070🗿
iykyk
All of that for a single geometry dash level?
Bro it’s easy to run GD at 21000 fps (on detail low levels)
Neiro destroying his mouse on the video called top 15 extreme demon moments:
OUR VIDEO MENTIONED
RIP the guy who had to test EVERY SINGLE FPS
CYCLOCYC GOT DETHRONED!?!💀💀
yea it got dethroned
alot of the comments talking about cyclolcyc and just for reference cyclolcyc only requires around 2-3k fps and formosa requiring 20k fps as he said in the vid.
its transfinite void, if you tried it legitimately, the universe would collapse (near infinite cps needed)
nope, TPLL actually got updated a couple weeks ago, check it out.
also, you may want to update your intuition on “infinity”; no matter how big of a number you can imagine, it’ll always be closer to 0 than to infinity
tranfinite got dethroned by last hope
theoretically possible doesn't necessarily mean physically possible
I wish we got this hyped for mundane difficulties like easy demons or normals
Tax evasion:”did you forget about me 😑”
You:”maybe 😅”
Tax evasion:”really 😑”
Tax Evasion was removed from ill for some reason
@@XvectorgdXremoved because Skubb was naughty
@@Jemanthapus please explain
@@Jemanthapustax evasion was removed because the creator threw a tantrum after it was moved back to #2 and requested all his levels to be removed cuz ILL doesnt respect its creators
@@icespirit ok
bro has the ability to talk without saying anything
Back on track
stereo madness_ left the chat_
CYCLOLCYC GOT DETHRONED?!?!?!?!
Yeah, the ill underestimated formosa in terms of difficulty and it’s actually harder than cyclolcyc, but cyclolcyc is still really close in terms of difficulty because of so many gimmicks and it is still top 1 in my opinion, and I think that cyclolcyc is basically the Tartarus of the ILL
Love the detroit: Become Human music in the back :)
obviously formosa is hard,is a horrible place to live
scince when did transfinite void get dethroned
Bro do you know about TPLL and PPLL ? 💀🙏
do you forget about a level that requires more CPS than a googolplexianth💀🙏
theoretical levels dont count
@@aelzfrSo these are not levels on the game at all? Like a completely separate people or what? Either you count all, or not counting anything.
@@Rame8471do you forget about a level that requires more than infinite clicks?💀🙏
@@kungdxl6792 yeah that level exists praise the man who completed the level that requires more clicks than Infinity 💀🙏
“WhAT aBoUT ToN 618???!?!!!! 🤓🤓🤓”
It is actually emptiness
If You Put on Low Detail Mode
❖
∆∆∆
theoretical
Emptiness is physically impossible
Theoretical list ≠ impossible list
You forgot about the theoretically possible list which has much harder levels since there are no rules for what can get in
There is, the level has to be physically possible and needs to use an original click counter if it uses one
@@2000yearslaterrrwell yeah, I just meant no rules for it’s difficulty, like the impossible levels list doesn’t have levels that have more than 15 cps, but the theoretically possible levels list has levels that are trillions of years of clicking at ungodly high speeds
theoretically possible doesn't necessarily mean physically possible
@@NotGoingToGiveMyRealNameyea but those levels suck, itks better to stick to the ILL which actually has SOME creativity.
@@2000yearslaterrrthats wrong it has rules but thats for SLL
Not to be a nerd but the actual hardest level is emptiness by physimpossible. Its a level that is 42 octillion years long with crash triggers and a saw following you for the entire level. Its top one on the PILL (Physically Impossible Levels List)
I think you are off by a factor of 10 too small
They're talking about possible levels, not impossible levels.
Theoretically its still possible unlike its predecessors on the PILL (and timeless)
@@ricecakes32 no its definitely impossible the actual hardest is transfinite void or that got dethroned idk
It’s theoretically not possible for anybody because of x positions. For example if I say we go 10 to the power of 100 blocks your icon would freeze in place making emptiness not possible.
The Detroit become human soundtrack in the back tho
Was looking for someone commenting on it :)
pplllife ? Nessus ? Tax Evasion ? tower ? Ton 618
All are easier according to the ILL
The only one of them that is on the i'll is tax evasión, the other levels have parts that reach more than 15 Clicks oer second, and the ill only has levels that don't exceed 15 cps
@@GPR_GDwhat. Tax Evasion was harder, just removed at the creator’s request. Ton 618 is physically impossible, Tower, PPLLife & Nessus is banned off the SLL (ILL with no CPS limit) and is only allowed on the Physically Possible Level List, the list of the hardest physically possible levels, no restrictions.
Tower is pretty low on the list now but harder than anything on the SLL & ILL by a extremely large margin. Same for Nessus which is around top 10 and PPLLife hanging in at 5th. All of these make the entirety of the SLL & ILL and pretty much any non-PPLL level look empty in comparison.
Ton 618 is impossible. Tax evasion is a former ILL top 1 but not SLL Top 1 or PPLL top 1. PPLLife and Nessus are former PPLL top 1 or the hardest levels in game but not anymore. The hardest is currently Nessus is Dead.
@@SyntheticNuclearwhy is ton 618 impossible?
I was going to think Silent Circles
Cyberphobia or Slaughterhouse
but DAMN FORMOSA
How!? Cus formosa was 4 in the ill when cyclolcyc was 1 so wth is going on??!!
Got moved up
2.2 physics update maybe? or people severely underestimated its difficulty
its literally just the looks being deceiving
when you think about it a level with 20k fps swift clicks is gonna be insanely hard
I always thought it was Electrodynamix or Clubstep
nessus: *am i a joke to yall?*
Levels in tpll are so hard that comparing a blank level to formosa speedhacked up to be beaten in Planck time then repeated for the entire lifetime of the universe will still won’t be as much difference in difficulty compared to the difference in difficulty of the #2 tpll level and #1 tpll level
Wouldn’t count as they are not even possible to bot, Formosa is technically possible but would never be beaten by the sheer difficulty meanwhile the tpll even if it’s called “theoretically possible”, can have physically impossible levels in it. Be smarter.
@ The levels in tpll are not possible because a game engine powerful enough to run and beat them cannot be created in our own universe. Our universe is finite and cannot make game engines that run levels this difficult. Your perspective refers to the limits of our own universe and what can be done with it. What I mean at the other hand is “possibility in game mechanics” and not our own limits we live on. I am pretty sure you wouldn’t say this if we weren’t beings with finite power and knowledge.
everyone saying ton 618 at this point is just ragebaiting, just leave them alone
Bro theory of everything 2 is a menance
yes so hard very hard
do people not know skubb requested for his levels to be removed from the ILL, even with Tax Evasion?🤨
They aren’t knowledgeable enough
@@The_chiyari just like people that think TON 618 is the hardest level
@@The_chiyari true
@@NicolasManI even if the PILL is mentioned, TON 618 still isn’t the hardest. And I despise TON 618 meat riders because who would like an impossible level with a mediocre song and extremely boring gameplay
@@The_chiyari Ton 618 meatriders realizing a top 50 TPLL level is harder than ton 618
Pros: you beat bloodbath but I beat silent clubstep
Me dying to hexagon force
My ass trying to beat Sonic Wave:
I still remember when Bloodbath was one of the hardest levels in the game...😢
Formosa is not a new level, and the hardest level is emptiness by eulernum, which is physically impossible in difficulty, is 400 octillion (that's a 4 followed by 25 zeroes) years long, and if we only want to talk about possible levels, it's Last Hope by jako33 requiring, at least according to the list, f lim(BMS)+ε₀(505) fps to beat (which in all honesty I don't know what it means but epsilon is a very big number)
Maybe let's follow a list that has a sliver of creativity like the ILL
it’s physically impossible, and Last Hope is also physically impossible, (that’s why it’s THEORETICALLY possible.)
the PPLL and the TPLL have stayed silent since this dropped
I always thought it was Electrodynamix
Thực ra level Formosa mới là level top 1 khó hơn tidal wave, thực chất nằm ở top 695, Formosa còn khó hơn cả tidal wave, Acheron, limbo, Vân Vân. Với lại level Formosa cần 21k fps lận, với lại có lẽ robtop lỡ cho sneak peek 2.21 là explorers nên chắc robtop đang làm level explorers , hoặc có thể ông robtop cho level firebird trở lại.
There are actually harder levels as the ones from "The Impossible levels list" are physically possible at a certain framerate however there also are physically impossible levels which can't be beaten no matter what like a 4 block tall wall
bruh, tax evasion dethroned
The most difficult levels are the levels that are physically impossible or those that have Unknown Difficulty such as Silent full or some Levels that are already practically impossible in their entirety, such as ballistik silent Stormenting or one called ppliffe that is very exaggerated, less impossible than ballistik but it is crazy
Cyclocyc dethroned is crazy
Remember Zodiac, this is him now
The level is called Formosa if your too lazy to listen to him yap.
You're only stopping at the ill? What about the ppll and tpll?
Fun fact: Formosa Is a part of argentina
Si
Its name of the island that taiwan is located on
somebody make argentina NOW
Upcoming 💀
*Formosa: YES I GOT THRONED!*
*Acheron:*
uhh is this a jk comment?
Tidal Wave: I AM #1 ON THE DEMON LIST!
Deimos:
this has to be a joke
@GrumpBoat yes
i thought it was still cyclolcyc, AWT, or Death Corridor or smth. Wow
That level was created with Nasa computer
Formosa? Like one of the provinces of Argentina? Cool!!
No like thr island of formosa aka taiwan
Turn on ldm on formosa:💀 what the hell its possible
Bros becoming camman18
I don’t like how he randomly decides if it only counts rated levels or not and just writes a comment after to say that it only counts rated levels
Formosa: im the new king
cyclolcyc
sll, ppll (and if you dont care about it actually being possible in the current game engine) tpll contain more than ill
i mean, they have inhuman cps and last unimagineable times
Cyclolcyc DETHRONED?!
So they did release Formosa after like forever lol, so what is the click spam strategy?
youre not gonna believe me when i say that theres a list called the phisically possible levels list (ppll) with levels way harder than the one on the ILL
Bro dethroned Ballistic Wistfully ☠️
bro is still on 2021 💀
it was below ballistic, now its miles above ballistic
BW is dethroned years ago bud
Aka you need an NASA pc for being able to try to beat it ( 21914 FPS MONITOR )
If you made a level with spikes surrounding the background, it will be the hardest level in GD
physically impossible because even a robot can't beat it in the normal physics game
can't tell if this is a joke or not tho
PLLife:I simply do not exist.
correct
@@samuel27294 not correct, there’s a reason why PPLL is in the name of the level, it’s because PPLLLife was never meant to be possible and only meant to be a top 1 in the PPLL, Formosa is technically possible but would never be beaten because of the sheer difficulty while PPLLLife will never be beaten regardless of fps because of the end seemingly breaking all the rules in the ILL and making it last longer than the universe itself, therefore it doesn’t count
PLLife isn’t a level, And PPLLlife isn’t even top 1 on the ppll anymore. Do research
@@Citrobyte do you think that these children even have brains
not top 1 ppll
Last hope left the chat
Mean can you try nessus level
I instantly thought about aeternus
What about collab level by mindcap?
have you EVER played gd??
Bro that level is possible also its an medium demon😭 we're talking about impossible levels dumbass
I thought He Was Gonna Say Cyclolcyc
what about those levels that makes you click an incomprehensible number of times per second in order to win? Like physically impossible
Cyclcoc is the hardest level
Formosa: allow me to introduce myself
This is so good!
What about the Top 1 PPLL (Physically Possible Levels List) PPLLLife?
What about? Kingdom of miracles Ton 618 Plus world and cycloc?
kingdom of miracalis is top 30 on the ILL
ton 618 is impossible
What about Theoretically Possible Levels List (TPLL) and Physically Possible Levels List (PPLL)
Aftercatabath?
I am going to kms💀
Hardest level is probably "PAMKA NEVER CLEAR X" you need to do TREE(3) clicks in the start of the level, then you have to beat challenge, its definitely impossiblest level
(TREE(3) ITS NOT THREE CLICKS, THIS IS MORE THAN GRAHAM'S NUMBER)
Bru:skull:
PAMKA NEVER CLEAR is a top 1 from the HLL aka the “Hardest levels list” which is basically the ILL but with almost no restrictions and PAMKA NEVER CLEAR is physically and theoretically impossible due to it just being a spammy level that needs you to click bogus amounts in very small amounts of time, meanwhile Formosa is an ILL level that recently got moved up higher than cyclolcyc and is the new top 1, just because there’s impossible in the name doesn’t mean that the HLL, PPLL,PILL and TPLL is mentioned.
Formosa is an orb spam and object spam level.
erm actually its FOREVER by Grimstrr if you what to include the PILL (Phisically Impossible Levels List)
Pplife chilling in the background
not the hardest ppll
we gotta talk about the theoretically possible levels list
nah, those levels are boring. half of their “difficulty” usually just consists of forcing you to click an absurdly large number of times to unlock a barrier at the end
@@NotACommunist91 they work for a short video though
@@NotACommunist91And also it takes an unfathomable amount of years to complete
Cyclocyc was dethroned by formosa?