At the Smithsonian Museum of American History. Hear Smithsonian Books director Carolyn Gleason (Col '85) and curator Harry Rubenstein talk about Jefferson's handmade bible and its place in American history.
Because that is what is meant be making these words a livin word rather then just make them an empty mantra. We should all strive to come into a greater understanding of these works, but to also add on to such works as we add on to ourselves.
He made a personalized polyglot of just the good parts with no commercials.......real high minded......let me guess.....he goes down as a genius for this.
Still has God, Worshiping God, angels, the afterlife, and God punishing and rewarding people therein. Not really a secular document by any stretch of the imagination.
I mean, what did you expect? This was essentially Jefferson's attempt to reconcile his personal belief in god with the Christian philosophy, and in the end it just shows that he was probably more of a deist in denial
This was an interesting video, and I may read an edition of the Jefferson Bible some time in the future. But a few things stuck out with me in the video. At 2:03, it has "The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth." The fact that Jefferson cut out the miracles of Jesus from his Bible, and that the title to his work makes no reference to Jesus' resurrection, or Him being Lord and Savior is telling. I guess if someone doesn't want Jesus to be risen from the dead, or to have those titles, then that is one way to respond to claims of such things.
What says it all for me is that Jefferson ended his book with the tomb and did not "allow" Christ to resurrect. Paul in I Corinthians 15:17 KJV says "And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins."
I think the founding fathers did this to every great work of it's day and tried to make them more relevent to their days. I wish we would try this more not only to understand those great works and world changing documents but to make them increasingly more relevent in our days.
More importantly I pose to you the query; Would it matter if he did? If yes, then I suppose you have some self fulfilling subjectivity going on somewhere. this question is a non point. Although a valid question, it would seem from the inflection in the way you posted it suggests that if he didn't do similar works to other sacred texts, it may make you quite uneasy. Maybe I am reading into it too much.
People people people, Jefferson cut out the red letters, to compile Jesus words to make copies for the American Indians. Do a search "The controversy over Thomas Jefferson's Bible" and get educated. David Barton reviews Jeffersons own writings about it.
Jefferson did NOT believe in the nonsense of virgin birth or resurrection because it defies all reason. th-cam.com/video/yEP39YSF2Vk/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/qRgjvx8xQTQ/w-d-xo.html
0:42 Am I the only one creeped out? The Jefferson Bible a cynical condensation of the life of Jesus (minus all miracles and mention of God) into a couple dozen pages. Seriously, if atheist Richard Dawkins were to re-write the Bible this is how it would read. God won't be happy (Rev. 22:18-19)
+danny shine Personally, I am not creeped out but am reassured that one of America's founders had the honesty, courage and integrity to avoid being a religious literalist as we are observing with some people today. Perhaps some of the commandments could do with some review also: COMMANDMENTS 2015 1. You shall never relinquish your critical thinking in favor of a conceptual entity the existence of which you cannot validate. (We must all recognize the fact that today, religion is the most serious impediment to any sensible management of the worlds peoples. Religion and belief in conceptual entities, divides humans into competing groups that will invariably argue, fight and kill each other's children over these unfounded beliefs. This has to stop as should the "polite tolerance" of totally implausible religious claims. It is time for us all to think. To think rationally; to think for ourselves. We must have the honesty, integrity and courage to admit when we do not know the answer and that the answers will not be found on our knees with our eyes closed.) 2. You shall never elevate your cause above your humanity. (Humans can be moral without a belief in a conceptual entity. Develop your empathy.) 3. You shall stop the practice of genital mutilation of your young for religious reasons and the presentation to them, of implausible religious claims, as absolute truth. (Hide your face and weep if you dare to harm a child.) 4. You shall not tolerate the subjugation and mistreatment of people, particularly women, based upon ancient or religious text. 5. You shall honor your father and your mother. 6. You shall not murder. 7. You shall not have sex irresponsibly, without consideration of it's consequences or without empathy and consideration for others and you will always insist upon safe sex practices. 8. You shall not steal and cannot escape judgment if you rob people with a false prospectus rather than with a weapon, nor will you "rip people off" in the name of religion. 9. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor. 10. You shall not covet. (You shall learn to control your envy.) 11. You shall not condemn people on the basis of their ethnicity or their color but you should rigorously question their unfounded beliefs. (Contemplation is acceptable, unprovable assertions are not) 12. You shall not condemn people for their inborn non-violent nature. (Why would God create so many homosexuals only in order to torture and destroy them?) 13. You shall not use people as private property, as owned, or as slaves. 14. You shall accept responsibility for what you do and shall not defer such to a conceptual entity, the existence of which we cannot validate. (Scapegoating, or having someone else die for your sin is not moral) 15. You shall rigorously pursue a verifiable truth, develop your empathy and have respect. (Be aware that you, too, are an animal, and dependent upon the web of nature. Think and act accordingly.) 16. You shall strongly oppose all and any efforts to incorporate religion into government or the military. 17. You shall wear clothes for protection, fashion or humor but not as a propitiation to a conceptual entity, the existence of which we cannot validate. 18. You shall refrain from dragging inappropriate, unverifiable and meaningless beliefs and rituals from the past, into the present and shall recognize that cultism is a damaging and corrosive pursuit. (Human beliefs and strange rituals are learned, they are not part of human DNA. It is time to understand that we can all get along if properly educated.) 19. You shall not present religious pseudoscience as education or as literal and will accept that we are mortal beings with finite lives, whose purpose is for us to collectively and individually determine. 20. You shall insist on the separation of Church and State. Governments should discontinue tax exemption for religion, stop the support and perpetuation of implausible religious claims that cannot be validated and guard against religious literalism. Some input courtesy of Christopher Hitchens
***** Read No.11, (Contemplation is acceptable, unprovable assertions are not) I have no problem with allegorical interpretation. Why then is the USA so full of literalists in 2016?
This is just disgusting; To think so many presidents have been sworn in with that reprehensible display of arrogance done in Spiritual poverty. To make himself Judge over the Word of God is blasphemous. I'm finding the root of this age of enlightenment through "reason". They create idols and rewrite the Word of God. Making pagan displays and holidays holidays the root of "reason" yet find the Word of God to be "unreasonable". I'm happy living in peace and Goodwill, yet I have eyes to see what I never imagined could be true. All I can say "the beast came up like a lamb but spoke as a dragon. We've been denied the truth of the Exodus and real Mount Sinai in Arabia. Chariot wheels in the gulf of Acaba. Pink granite mountain range with a sjngle mountain "Jawel El Abaz" burnt black by heat and fire as our Lord descended to speak with Moses. The "Rock of Horeb" across the plain of Jawel El Abaz with evidence of water erosion from strong flowing water. Is it "reasonable" to deny the evidence and use secular academia as the authority on matters regarding the Word of God. Educating us to believe that many have searched and found nothing to prove the Exodus ever happened. Going so far to tell us the Bible is a collection of tales based on fantastical ideas by unstable men. I used to believe that ignorant maliciousness toward the only True Living Everlasting God. Evolution, big bang, heliocentric cosmological model. Albert Einstein, Isaac Newton. Nothing more than theories to sell a lie so big it consumed us born into this age. Thomas Jefferson is merely one In a multitude whom believed that same lie told from Adam and Eve. He desired to be apothosized as the freemasonic enlightenment model is the same old lie. From darkness to light. Jesus Christ said "Be sure the your light isn't really darkness instead. I love my country and served for what I believed to be free will and civil and religious liberties for everyone. But when a religious cult infects the very apparatus of government including all forms of media, television and cable news, and even the education system to satisfy the agenda of their ancient hope. While denying the Truth of this World. The time is near to witness the enemies within the gates to decimate our society and national and personal sovereignty.
Definitely NOT creeped out. This is one of the reasons I Love TJ. He was way ahead of his time. ❤️💙 Personally I wish more folks actually knew this about him.
no. we wonder why we have a nation of buildings with half hour sermons and people falling asleep in the pews. miracles do happen but they could be happening a lot more. if you take away the miracles you are pacifying The Holy Spirit if not worse. why are the hospitals full, why is everyone worried about the big flu? Jesus touched lepers. Jesus healed lepers. imagine if The Holy Spirit is allowed to operate in Full Force what that would to the bottom line. Acts 16:16-19
Jefferson did NOT believe in the nonsense of virgin birth or resurrection because it defies all reason. th-cam.com/video/yEP39YSF2Vk/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/qRgjvx8xQTQ/w-d-xo.html
I think the founding fathers would just laugh at us blue, on how we are still tranfixed on a document of more then two hundred years. They where great men and the diserve to be remembered and truely the mark of a a brilliance in person is how they balance temperment with knowledge. But compareing Jefferson, or Washington, or anyone alse of that group have no bearing on us today, figuring out how Republican or Democratic they were is a fool errand. Comparing that era to this era is just as vapid and flimsy ( or perhaps more) as comparing our Reaility to the Jetson cartoon we saw on the TV as kids or the Sci-fy movies and crazy L. Ron Hubbard and Gene Rodonbury imaginations that infuence our today.
No bearing on us today?? Have you been kicked in the head by a horse? It's that kind of open display of complete ignorance slandering utter genius that is the problem. There is no (New Religion) or (New Ideology) the very notion of something like Scientology is about the most rediculous thing I've ever heard. The REAL way of moving forward us to understand the forefathers of the past, apply their thinking, morals, ethics and processes NOT tare down their statues! LEARN how to think and critically process what it us you are claiming. Noone blindly follows a blundering oracle. In this case you've demonstrated yourself to be a fool....
Jefferson was a reincarnation of a soulaspect of Jesus/ archangel Michael. He know subconciously that the bible has been falsified...he never said he was God, his only son or the only way. He said what I am you are too, what I can, you can aswel. The bible teaches us to hate each other! Luke 14:26 If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters-yes, even their own life-such a person cannot be my disciple. Anybody believing Jesus said this crap, needs to see a shrink. Believe it or not...
TJ: "The most sacred of the duties of a government [is] to do equal & impartial justice to all its citizens."
Because that is what is meant be making these words a livin word rather then just make them an empty mantra. We should all strive to come into a greater understanding of these works, but to also add on to such works as we add on to ourselves.
He made a personalized polyglot of just the good parts with no commercials.......real high minded......let me guess.....he goes down as a genius for this.
Still has God, Worshiping God, angels, the afterlife, and God punishing and rewarding people therein. Not really a secular document by any stretch of the imagination.
I mean, what did you expect? This was essentially Jefferson's attempt to reconcile his personal belief in god with the Christian philosophy, and in the end it just shows that he was probably more of a deist in denial
This was an interesting video, and I may read an edition of the Jefferson Bible some time in the future. But a few things stuck out with me in the video.
At 2:03, it has "The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth." The fact that Jefferson cut out
the miracles of Jesus from his Bible, and that the title to his work makes no reference to Jesus' resurrection, or Him being Lord and Savior is telling. I guess if someone doesn't want Jesus to be risen from the dead, or to have those titles, then that is one way to respond to claims of such things.
What says it all for me is that Jefferson ended his book with the tomb and did not "allow" Christ to resurrect. Paul in I Corinthians 15:17 KJV says "And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins."
I think the founding fathers did this to every great work of it's day and tried to make them more relevent to their days. I wish we would try this more not only to understand those great works and world changing documents but to make them increasingly more relevent in our days.
More importantly I pose to you the query; Would it matter if he did?
If yes, then I suppose you have some self fulfilling subjectivity going on somewhere.
this question is a non point. Although a valid question, it would seem from the inflection in the way you posted it suggests that if he didn't do similar works to other sacred texts, it may make you quite uneasy.
Maybe I am reading into it too much.
Did he do anything similar to sacred books of other nations?
Gavin Engel no
What do you mean? What nation is the Bible from? Israel? Galilee?
You have to laugh at the folks clutching their pearls, like their bibles aren't edited. Do the know what the V stands for in, KJV? 😂
I meant books such as The Quran, The Vedas, etc.
Just think what he would have done with the Apple Macbook !
Blend the Islamic Quran and Christian Bible together is what was his idea.
larry kendrick no... He was a deist... He didn't believe in monotheism
People people people, Jefferson cut out the red letters, to compile Jesus words to make copies for the American Indians.
Do a search "The controversy over Thomas Jefferson's Bible" and get educated.
David Barton reviews Jeffersons own writings about it.
Jefferson did NOT believe in the nonsense of virgin birth or resurrection because it defies all reason.
th-cam.com/video/yEP39YSF2Vk/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/qRgjvx8xQTQ/w-d-xo.html
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0:42 Am I the only one creeped out? The Jefferson Bible a cynical condensation of the life of Jesus (minus all miracles and mention of God) into a couple dozen pages. Seriously, if atheist Richard Dawkins were to re-write the Bible this is how it would read. God won't be happy (Rev. 22:18-19)
+danny shine
Personally, I am not creeped out but am reassured that one of America's
founders had the honesty, courage and integrity to avoid being a religious
literalist as we are observing with some people today. Perhaps some of the
commandments could do with some review also:
COMMANDMENTS 2015
1. You shall never relinquish your critical thinking in favor of a conceptual entity the existence of which you cannot validate.
(We must all recognize the fact that today, religion is the most serious impediment to any sensible management of the worlds peoples. Religion and belief in conceptual entities, divides humans into competing groups that will invariably argue, fight and kill each other's children over these unfounded beliefs. This has to stop as should the "polite tolerance" of totally implausible
religious claims. It is time for us all to think. To think rationally; to think
for ourselves. We must have the honesty, integrity and courage to admit when we
do not know the answer and that the answers will not be found on our knees with
our eyes closed.)
2. You shall never elevate your cause above your humanity.
(Humans can be moral without a belief in a conceptual entity. Develop your empathy.)
3. You shall stop the practice of genital mutilation of your young for religious reasons and the presentation to them, of implausible religious claims, as absolute truth.
(Hide your face and weep if you dare to harm a child.)
4. You shall not tolerate the subjugation and mistreatment of people, particularly women, based upon ancient or religious text.
5. You shall honor your father and your mother.
6. You shall not murder.
7. You shall not have sex irresponsibly, without consideration of it's consequences or without empathy and consideration for others and you will always insist upon safe sex practices.
8. You shall not steal and cannot escape judgment if you rob people with a false prospectus rather than with a weapon, nor will you "rip people off" in the name of religion.
9. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
10. You shall not covet. (You shall learn to control your envy.)
11. You shall not condemn people on the basis of their ethnicity or their color but you should rigorously question their unfounded beliefs. (Contemplation is acceptable, unprovable assertions are not)
12. You shall not condemn people for their inborn non-violent nature.
(Why would God create so many homosexuals only in order to torture and destroy them?)
13. You shall not use people as private property, as owned, or as slaves.
14. You shall accept responsibility for what you do and shall not defer such to a conceptual entity, the existence of which we cannot validate.
(Scapegoating, or having someone else die for your sin is not moral)
15. You shall rigorously pursue a verifiable truth, develop your empathy and have
respect.
(Be aware that you, too, are an animal, and dependent upon the web of nature. Think and act accordingly.)
16. You shall strongly oppose all and any efforts to incorporate religion into government or the military.
17. You shall wear clothes for protection, fashion or humor but not as a propitiation to a conceptual entity, the existence of which we cannot validate.
18. You shall refrain from dragging inappropriate, unverifiable and meaningless beliefs and rituals from the past, into the present and shall recognize that cultism is a damaging and corrosive pursuit.
(Human beliefs and strange rituals are learned, they are not part of human DNA. It is time to understand that we can all get along if properly educated.)
19. You shall not present religious pseudoscience as education or as literal and will accept that we are mortal beings with finite lives, whose purpose is for us to collectively and individually determine.
20. You shall insist on the separation of Church and State. Governments should discontinue tax exemption for religion, stop the support and perpetuation of implausible religious claims that cannot be validated and guard against religious literalism.
Some input courtesy of Christopher Hitchens
***** Read No.11, (Contemplation is acceptable, unprovable assertions are not)
I have no problem with allegorical interpretation. Why then is the USA so full of literalists in 2016?
This is just disgusting; To think so many presidents have been sworn in with that reprehensible display of arrogance done in Spiritual poverty. To make himself Judge over the Word of God is blasphemous. I'm finding the root of this age of enlightenment through "reason". They create idols and rewrite the Word of God. Making pagan displays and holidays holidays the root of "reason" yet find the Word of God to be "unreasonable". I'm happy living in peace and Goodwill, yet I have eyes to see what I never imagined could be true. All I can say "the beast came up like a lamb but spoke as a dragon.
We've been denied the truth of the Exodus and real Mount Sinai in Arabia. Chariot wheels in the gulf of Acaba. Pink granite mountain range with a sjngle mountain "Jawel El Abaz" burnt black by heat and fire as our Lord descended to speak with Moses.
The "Rock of Horeb" across the plain of Jawel El Abaz with evidence of water erosion from strong flowing water.
Is it "reasonable" to deny the evidence and use secular academia as the authority on matters regarding the Word of God. Educating us to believe that many have searched and found nothing to prove the Exodus ever happened. Going so far to tell us the Bible is a collection of tales based on fantastical ideas by unstable men. I used to believe that ignorant maliciousness toward the only True Living Everlasting God. Evolution, big bang, heliocentric cosmological model. Albert Einstein, Isaac Newton. Nothing more than theories to sell a lie so big it consumed us born into this age.
Thomas Jefferson is merely one In a multitude whom believed that same lie told from Adam and Eve. He desired to be apothosized as the freemasonic enlightenment model is the same old lie. From darkness to light. Jesus Christ said "Be sure the your light isn't really darkness instead.
I love my country and served for what I believed to be free will and civil and religious liberties for everyone. But when a religious cult infects the very apparatus of government including all forms of media, television and cable news, and even the education system to satisfy the agenda of their ancient hope. While denying the Truth of this World. The time is near to witness the enemies within the gates to decimate our society and national and personal sovereignty.
Definitely NOT creeped out.
This is one of the reasons I Love TJ. He was way ahead of his time. ❤️💙
Personally I wish more folks actually knew this about him.
no. we wonder why we have a nation of buildings with half hour sermons and people falling asleep in the pews. miracles do happen but they could be happening a lot more. if you take away the miracles you are pacifying The Holy Spirit if not worse. why are the hospitals full, why is everyone worried about the big flu? Jesus touched lepers. Jesus healed lepers. imagine if The Holy Spirit is allowed to operate in Full Force what that would to the bottom line. Acts 16:16-19
The Jefferson Bible is just a book of the complete sayings of Jesus Christ. if you don't like it than ur not a follower of Christ.
Jefferson did NOT believe in the nonsense of virgin birth or resurrection because it defies all reason.
th-cam.com/video/yEP39YSF2Vk/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/qRgjvx8xQTQ/w-d-xo.html
What a shame!
I find it enlightening and right.
What's that, my comment or the Jefferson Bible?
I think the founding fathers would just laugh at us blue, on how we are still tranfixed on a document of more then two hundred years. They where great men and the diserve to be remembered and truely the mark of a a brilliance in person is how they balance temperment with knowledge. But compareing Jefferson, or Washington, or anyone alse of that group have no bearing on us today, figuring out how Republican or Democratic they were is a fool errand. Comparing that era to this era is just as vapid and flimsy ( or perhaps more) as comparing our Reaility to the Jetson cartoon we saw on the TV as kids or the Sci-fy movies and crazy L. Ron Hubbard and Gene Rodonbury imaginations that infuence our today.
No bearing on us today?? Have you been kicked in the head by a horse? It's that kind of open display of complete ignorance slandering utter genius that is the problem. There is no (New Religion) or (New Ideology) the very notion of something like Scientology is about the most rediculous thing I've ever heard. The REAL way of moving forward us to understand the forefathers of the past, apply their thinking, morals, ethics and processes NOT tare down their statues! LEARN how to think and critically process what it us you are claiming. Noone blindly follows a blundering oracle. In this case you've demonstrated yourself to be a fool....
Jefferson was a reincarnation of a soulaspect of Jesus/ archangel Michael. He know subconciously that the bible has been falsified...he never said he was God, his only son or the only way. He said what I am you are too, what I can, you can aswel.
The bible teaches us to hate each other!
Luke 14:26
If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters-yes, even their own life-such a person cannot be my disciple.
Anybody believing Jesus said this crap, needs to see a shrink.
Believe it or not...