"It's Discrimination" was a line that immediately struck me and took me off-guard, and it's a line that has never left my mind since. It was such a fascinating way of viewing "human love" VS "unconditional love" that I had never thought of before, yet I could immediately grasp exactly what he meant just due to the nature of the show. Really enjoyed Vinland Saga and really looking forward to whenever Season 2 comes along!
As a physics enthusiast, I am equally fascinated and horrified by the notion of "unconditional love". Such a "love" cannot make a distinction between human and non-human, between life and non-life, even between "nothing" and "something", as that would impose a condition. There is only one effect in all of Science that exhibits this quality, and it is the primitive, stochastical mechanism of entropy, the blind tendency of fluids to mix, of messages to become corrupted, and of our universe to eventually die in a vast, cold, pitch-black expanse. If you like, there is indeed something divine about entropy, but in a disturbing, perverse manner. You cannot fight it. If you have any collection of more than two objects that undergo random movements over time, you get entropy as an inevitable mathematical consequence. Worse, you even contribute. By doing literally anything, even by your mere existence, you create heat and random motion and thus accelerate the increase of the total entropy of the universe. The ability to reverse entropy, this obscene "work of God", would make you into a demon, the actually thusly named Maxwellian demon. Finally, there is a bizarre irony about it, the irony of the arrow of time. Entropy is the only known quantity that must always increase in time, for all we know, it is the only reason why time comes equipped with a direction. The irony is that, while entropy is the great equaliser - the ultimate destroyer of all structure, preference, and asymmetry - its existence, and it alone, gives structure and asymmetry to the dimension of time, preferring it to the spatial dimensions!
he noticed canute is quite intelligent and charismatic , and to put these traits to use , he neeeds to be strong and independent , so you just gotta eliminate his comfort zone "ragnar".
Askeladd is a genious. The only problem is that he hate himslef as he hated danes. For his desperate dream for Britannia, he acted as ugly as his father, to begin with killing him. :( I'm so sad for him tho.
@@thabokgwele5268 I didn't know my thoughts on that was shared. I'm quite stressed you answer my drama comment lol. More seriously, it is because of the final fight between Thorfinn and Askeladd. In my opinion, either he is badly treated by the author (it is possible, cause sometimes you just mess everything in character development), either he kinda hates the fact that he is ugly too as a human. I'm not saying he feels guilty for his immoral actions, but that he lived the same low life as the men he hated. I'm not even sure if he even truly loved his baby berserk mate as a true friend. You know askeladd is for me the most complicated character of vinland saga. Thors is quite stoicist/buddhist in his character development, I mean he's the classical violent guy who then tend to leave a higher life such as having children and teach them deep and simple values (the author is very inspired of christianism too, except for salvation rightly because of Knut's speech). And Knut himself offers you his philosophy on a plate so that's quite easy to explain. If you want to share to my ignorant ass your views over Askeladd, I would be glad of it. (Sorry for my bad english, i'm french so studied a lot but not enough to rightly speak about complex topics like this one.)
"Loving someone means to discriminate against others" is something that I've never really thought much about until VS shed light on it. It's really one of the most unique and thought provoking themes I've seen tackled in a story. It's what made Canute into my favorite character of VS. Great video!
Canute’s speech about love and discrimination really gave me the impression that he rapidly adapted a new moral compass to deal with the loss of Ragnar. I remember watching and feeling really alienated and out of touch with self - probably exactly what he was feeling. Excellent writing
This is one of my favorite themes in Vinland Saga. It feels like too many series idolize the idea of love- portray it to be an absolute thing, something that is the end goal for everyone. Vinland Saga brings out the dark parts of it. It makes the idea of love out to be not as fun and wonderful as it is on the surface. And because of that it makes love seem all the more beautiful.
You can't feel good without the bad, thats why we feel good when we work hard and achieve a goal, because that goal is the reminder of our hours of stress.
People forget that Hitler did what he did out of love for Germany. Love can be amazing, but just because you are loving doesn’t mean you are kind, or even a good person. Love can be very dangerous.
Not gonna lie, it's kinda hard to focus on what you're saying when you distract us with such a carefully crafted combination of sound and stunning visuals. Great work.
Everyone obsesses over Askeladd but Canute is criminally underrated. His ideology is fundamentally different than the one Thorfinn developes later but he still embodies some of the values presented by Thors early on. His inclusion simply adds so much to the core themes of the story and when I see people claim he's lame because he's weak and he cries it makes me very sad
But where Thorfinn has the chance of softening his heart and regain compassion Canute is the inverse of this as he deals with the turmoil that comes with the brutality and pragmatism needed to lead in a viking age where conquest brutality and betrayal run rampant and where compassion is seen as weakness.
@@networknomad5600 Askeladd's poison took root. Whereas Thorfinn bore witness to his father's Christ-like selfishness, Canute was raised and coddled by Ragnar. Thors was a true warrior, while the series condemns Ragnar as merely a kind man; a coward. Sweyn wasn't the only one who passed the curse of the crown to the Prince, Askeladd's callousness and cunning were highly influential.
"We were expelled long ago. But through sheer agonizing effort, maybe we can aspire to reach that paradise once more. Wether it be through the swing of a sword or the shape of a hand." I love the poetic tone your videos take. There's so much atmosphere & sentiment. Great work!
“Being kind to everyone simply means there’s no one special.” - Araragi Koyomi Edit: This quote is obviously from a different anime so it has a completely different meaning that may even be contradictory to the message of the this video.
But it doesn't mean we should not try to kind to everyone. We human create loved ones or community and try to protect them for our entire life. But what if our community would be whole world and protecting them is our happiness. But it means we have to understand to love even the death of everyone.
Unfortunately, yeah I am lol. This will be the only video on the series, unless Season 2 gets announced and I think of a topic for that arc that I'd like to talk about. But the chances of even that are pretty low.
Same, even tho I already read the manga and understood it fine. I appreciate the anime but it doesn't emphasize some things correctly, and even the few times it did it didn't carry as much weight as the books.
Super underrated series.. I always loved the concept that love is in fact discrimination of those we don't/can't love. I'm an atheist but I do have to admit that if there would be a God like the one in Christianity then one of the main differences between it and humans is that a God can truly love everyone, humans cannot. No matter how much we try
Hi my friend I know you said your an atheist but please understand that Jesus died for our sins because we are NOT able to earn our own salvation through our good deeds, but by recognising that we are sinful at our very core and putting our trust in the sinless perfect life of Christ to wash away our sins and supernaturally give us a new heart through the Holy Spirit that allows us to want to obey him out of love. There is only one way to heaven and that is through Jesus Christ, any other path leads to hell, Buddha is dead, Mohammed is dead but Jesus Christ is alive as he rose again on the 3rd day and is seated at the right hand of the Father and he will one day come back to judge the living and the dead.
@@WhosthatHotspice I have nothing against religions, my girlfriend is actually a Christian and a firm believer of most of what you said. We all have our own world views and I think that's awesome so long as we can accept one another and live side by side. That being said, my world view is to be an atheist and not believe in God or anything of sorts but I still find religious themes very interesting especially when there's lots of variety withing a certain idea kinda like the idea of love in Vinland Saga.
I recommend reading about the lives of the saints. They were truly able to love all humanity with the heart and love of Jesus Christ, and sacrificed their own lives, whether through actual death or self-sacrifice through ministry, for those they would never even meet. If you let the love of Jesus Christ work in you, then nothing is impossible.
@@yiangaruga4928 I know this is going to sound strange but would you mind telling me your name so I can pray for you? I know it may be hard to believe now, but I am wholeheartedly urging you to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and saviour because he can supernaturally change your life forever. As someone who has genuinely experienced the supernatural presence of the Holy Spirit all I can do is encourage you to really seek the Lord Jesus Christ with all your heart, soul, mind and strength because there is only one road to get into heaven and regardless of all of our individual viewpoints we will all have to stand before God one day and give an account for the lives that we lived, where we will either be covered by the blood of Jesus Christ or crushed under the weight of our own sins. He is so real and supernatural and he really wants a relationship with you, he doesn't want a bunch of boring, dry religious slaves who simply follow him out of obligation but rather a large family of firm spirit filled believers who are supernaturally changed from the inside out who have a string desire to obey him out of love and gratittude. I hope that you will find him one day, may the Lord Jesus Christ bless you abundantly my friend Amen.
The great thing is that there is a great example of love in Vinland saga through the actions of Thors. Love is not simply an emotion of care for others, but it is self gift to the other.
There’s also the fact that all values and actions have a good side and a dark side. For example say someone sacrifices thier life to save many, they will also be leaving loved ones behind to grieve.
I do not exactly agree, but the setting of the story is sooooo different from our world that that sort of thinking may somewhat make sense... Still not believing it tho...
“Many see pacifism as a foolhardy approach to peace.” That is because the methods for pacifism to work are gradual and intangible. Violence fulfills another need for human psychology- quick and tangible results. But the instant gratification, as you say, is filling the road to peace with corpses.
Wow, this video was amazing. The analysis of love is discrimination was perfectly described, it sent chills down my spine. It’s really got me in existential thought rn, brilliant analysis of the anime, Alexander! This channel is heavily underrated
I love your videos and how carefully you choose your words to put your thoughts into a sentence. This and the precision you have picking up amazing pieces/phrases from anime scenes that make for great philosophical discussion are the two reasons i'm here. Thank you for your effort and keep it up.
I was just rewatching the clip of Canute’s change last night. Such a unique take on true love and the struggle between the world and faith. Love hearing your opinion on it
haven’t even watched the video yet. just wanted to say this segment of the show wowed me. i was at a loss for words. really excited to see where you take this
When I saw this episode the first time I immediately thought to myself "Man I can't wait for Alec to cover this" since it seemed like something that' be right up your alley. Never before has an anime made me question a concept like this in such a way.
"To feel love equally for everyone in the world is to feel pain for every single death or tragedy" I'd love to see a video paralleling this to Fushi's journey in To Your Eternity
I missed your videos, had to search your channel and there i see lots of unseen gems! thanks for the analysis that you make, they are very elucidating.
Thors actually fits the description of unconditional love as far as he could. He never tried to kill anyone, and tried to help anyone he could regardless of his financial limitations(Remember the slave he conforted until his death?)
Canute's awakening moment is often signified as Vinland Saga going from great to epic (well it literally has saga in its title). But I think, the scene worked so well especially because of that village girl from a few episodes back...where she watches her family get brutally murdered, and expects punishment for sinning, but gets nothing. She found freedom in the fact that there was neither punishment nor salvation. And then Canute spells it out for us..driving in that point harder. Both had uncovered the hypocrisy of religion, one by finding no salvation and one by finding no punishment.
Selfishly loving someone is part of what real love actually is. To want to hold someone close to you is to cherish them. To know someone deeply is to love them. But to forgive someone you do not know may be inherently the most powerful part of love there is. Like snow falling to the ground or a tree dying peacfully without remark. Loving someone or something despite what you lose or gain is in itself the true essence of the word we call love. Truly there is no discrimination in human love made right. Within "human love" is the ability to exert your own grace upon the world. And grace is what its all about.
Excellent as always AJ. The the theme that you articulate in this video is what got me so hooked on this series. You're a pro adapter of themes, the adaptations always hit. Keep up the good work.
Same .. I don't know but both hits different but feels so similar to each other.. Maybe it's because the Philosophy .... Or the studio(wit)..... But both are truely amazing stories..
“This is how they get us, they convince us that they ain’t no future, that there’s only a eternal now, and the best we can do is survive until dawn, and do it all again, that’s no way to live.” -King Isaac: Castlevania
This was such a good anime and can't wait for the next season, seeing Canute awaken and how the characters talk about Vinland was so amazing I really loved the tracks Awaken and Somewhere else.
Beautiful video! I haven't seen the show yet (and I know I'm supposed to before watching this video haha), but this definitely sold me on watching it. Everything I've seen from your channel so far has managed to strike a chord with me in completely unexpected ways. Whenever I come across one of your videos I'm reminded of why I fell in love with the medium in the first place and why I'm so passionate about analyzing everything I watch. Love your content man. Keep it up!
I've been waiting for an analysis video on Vinland Saga's philosophy of love. When I had watched that episode I didn't understand it. I couldn't understand why death would mean true love and the love that was understood before this was discrimination. For me true love was unconditional, but after this episode I pondered it and back in the summer time I started reading this book called The way to Love, which opened my eyes to true love and how to love. Thank you for this video Alexcander.
We all were like that drunk priest while watching Canute grow to become a true warrior . Love is needed to be a true warrior . This is my thought about Love . and seeing Thorfinn understanding love because of Askellad (specially his last line What do u want to do from now ) he starts also becoming a true warrior from this moment since he also finally understands Love .
Which is why I don’t think Canute has it. Thorfinn was able to get it from Askellad and before that his father. They were able to see both men give of themselves for the other, thus he has a true understanding of love.
@@munken7673 Thorkell was not able to become a true warrior as like he said he regretted not following Thors . If he had then he might have been able to but now he is with Canute but i dont think he will ever be a true warrior since he is already a beast who cannot mature from now . Since its too late .
@@TheJmlew11 But he does get it by the end of the farmland arc, when Thorfinn chose not to attack him and his men, he realised that thar is love in humanity.
“Love is discrimination” in essence I can kind of see it in how we put the needs of our family before everyone else even ourselves but “Family” can mean many things for good or ill, related or not in the end Love in any form is all we have and the bonds we make while fleeting is what connects us from here on earth to… whatever comes next be it heaven or the next world at least that’s what I think❤
Discrimination in itself isn't a bad thing. You discriminate on which clothing to wear, what food to eat, what friends to pursue... it ain't an objective bad.
This show changed my life. Loved this analysis, would love to see more. Your editing is also top-notch. Took me a minute to realize “... Hey! That wasn’t in the show!”
i was just thinking about this scene earlier today. wonderful video, you're really talented at putting thoughts into words and making them flow together in such a natural and atmospheric manner, and for such a short length of time as well! i remember reading the manga and this scene really left me contemplating what love really means. when all you've seen of love is it portrayed as this beautiful, ultimate aspiration you work towards, when suddenly this series comes into the table and is not afraid to bring out the hypocritical aspect of it to attention, that in turn makes the love we share that much more important and how truly human we are by not being able to encompass care towards every possible living thing, i'd never seen it put that way but it resonated with me so much. i think it's when vinland saga really captured my attention and went from great to truly amazing to me
You're really good at putting these things into words. I had some similar thoughts when I watched and rewatched the show but you put it together very coherently. Great vid as always, not switching to the manga has been difficult for this show ngl.
@@ra-tz9hg I prefer anime over manga, I think anime is a better medium for me to get immersed into. Completely subjective ik lol. I will read the manga if there's no sign of an anime coming out any time soon, like with hxh and berserk.
I believe the story eventually will try to answer the question of whether to aquire peace one needs to fight his way through it till the end (Canute's way) or to not fight anymore (thorrfin's way)
My take is that it won't give a clear answer because there isn't one. To not fight at all is the ideal and if you can somehow protect your people and find a balance with your neighbors that will allow you to live in peace, that's great. But that is realistically impossible, no nation has certainties after all. So, I believe that Canute's way, to fight and bring everyone in the vicinity under your rule and sphere of influence so as to create a community that live in peace under the same rules and way of life might be necessary. In sort, strive for peace as Thorfinn, but be prepared to go to war like Canute is the only realistic option we have. Or as the Romans used to say, Si vis Pacem, Para Bellum, meaning "If you want Peace, Prepare for War".
Vinland is one of my top 5 favorite anime of all time. I'm really glad to see you cover it! Would love to see more too, this was a very interesting perspective :)
The awakening of King Canute is one of my favorite scenes in anime and as far as I have seen one of the most impactful and important. Seriously holds so much meaning
Anyone interested in this should reference Nitze's concept of immaculate perception. "This parable speak I unto you sentimental dissemblers, unto you, the "pure discerners!" You do I call-covetous ones! Also ye love the earth, and the earthly: I have divined you well!- but shame is in your love, and a bad conscience-ye are like the moon! To despise the earthly hath your spirit been persuaded, but not your bowels: these, however, are the strongest in you! And now is your spirit ashamed to be at the service of your bowels, and goeth in by-ways and lying ways to escape its own shame. "That would be the highest thing for me"-so saith your lying spirit unto itself-"to gaze upon life without desire, and not like the dog, with hanging-out tongue: To be happy in gazing: with dead will, free from the grip and greed of selfishness-cold and ashy-grey all over, but with intoxicated moon-eyes! That would be the dearest thing to me"-thus doth the seduced one seduce himself,-"to love the earth as the moon loveth it, and with the eye only to feel its beauty. And this do I call immaculate perception of all things: to want nothing else from them, but to be allowed to lie before them as a mirror with a hundred facets."- Oh, ye sentimental dissemblers, ye covetous ones! Ye lack innocence in your desire: and now do ye defame desiring on that account! Verily, not as creators, as procreators, or as jubilators do ye love the earth!!
The music making me want to go back to Skyrim... Great Video btw, definitely one of the standout moments in Vinland Saga Season 1 and a huge part in Canute's development
@@Aleczandxr Ahh when you drew parallels between love and hate and the thin line between them in the beginning of the video I got confused and felt compelled to say something.
I have heard it is possible to achieve unconditional love through psychological death of the self/identity. All I need to do is realize there is no self. That there is nobody behind the eyes recording every experience, just perception without subject or object.
"It's Discrimination" was a line that immediately struck me and took me off-guard, and it's a line that has never left my mind since. It was such a fascinating way of viewing "human love" VS "unconditional love" that I had never thought of before, yet I could immediately grasp exactly what he meant just due to the nature of the show.
Really enjoyed Vinland Saga and really looking forward to whenever Season 2 comes along!
Same. I've never heard that about love and it immediately made sense in a weird way
As a physics enthusiast, I am equally fascinated and horrified by the notion of "unconditional love". Such a "love" cannot make a distinction between human and non-human, between life and non-life, even between "nothing" and "something", as that would impose a condition. There is only one effect in all of Science that exhibits this quality, and it is the primitive, stochastical mechanism of entropy, the blind tendency of fluids to mix, of messages to become corrupted, and of our universe to eventually die in a vast, cold, pitch-black expanse.
If you like, there is indeed something divine about entropy, but in a disturbing, perverse manner. You cannot fight it. If you have any collection of more than two objects that undergo random movements over time, you get entropy as an inevitable mathematical consequence. Worse, you even contribute. By doing literally anything, even by your mere existence, you create heat and random motion and thus accelerate the increase of the total entropy of the universe. The ability to reverse entropy, this obscene "work of God", would make you into a demon, the actually thusly named Maxwellian demon.
Finally, there is a bizarre irony about it, the irony of the arrow of time. Entropy is the only known quantity that must always increase in time, for all we know, it is the only reason why time comes equipped with a direction. The irony is that, while entropy is the great equaliser - the ultimate destroyer of all structure, preference, and asymmetry - its existence, and it alone, gives structure and asymmetry to the dimension of time, preferring it to the spatial dimensions!
@@hasch5756 You should watch "The Devs"
@@hasch5756 my fellow physics enthusiastic, you really expressed this idea from physics point of view so beautifully. I really loved it.
@@hasch5756 To put my own thoughts in layman's terms, this shit was smart as fuck.
vinland saga is sooo good
Indeed :33
It takes a dip in quality after farmland.
too bad the Wit studio drop Attack on Titan
@@Ray_D_Tutto I disagree, I only thought the last part of the arc was bad, the rest was great imo
It’s ok
“A true warrior needs no sword. Only a tranquilizer gun, CQC, and camouflage.” - Thors after playing Metal Gear Solid series
that and a pack of smokes... if you're Snake anyways
thors did a non-lethal run and it changed him forever
He'd do Fists only in the modern God of War games except for the Heimdall boss fight.
So Askeladd's plan of forcing growth in Canute by killing Ragnar actually worked.
Yeah it did. No two ways about it
he noticed canute is quite intelligent and charismatic , and to put these traits to use , he neeeds to be strong and independent , so you just gotta eliminate his comfort zone "ragnar".
Askeladd is a genious. The only problem is that he hate himslef as he hated danes. For his desperate dream for Britannia, he acted as ugly as his father, to begin with killing him. :( I'm so sad for him tho.
@@zelianwaeckerle5292 why do people keep saying he hates himself?
@@thabokgwele5268 I didn't know my thoughts on that was shared. I'm quite stressed you answer my drama comment lol. More seriously, it is because of the final fight between Thorfinn and Askeladd. In my opinion, either he is badly treated by the author (it is possible, cause sometimes you just mess everything in character development), either he kinda hates the fact that he is ugly too as a human. I'm not saying he feels guilty for his immoral actions, but that he lived the same low life as the men he hated. I'm not even sure if he even truly loved his baby berserk mate as a true friend. You know askeladd is for me the most complicated character of vinland saga. Thors is quite stoicist/buddhist in his character development, I mean he's the classical violent guy who then tend to leave a higher life such as having children and teach them deep and simple values (the author is very inspired of christianism too, except for salvation rightly because of Knut's speech). And Knut himself offers you his philosophy on a plate so that's quite easy to explain.
If you want to share to my ignorant ass your views over Askeladd, I would be glad of it.
(Sorry for my bad english, i'm french so studied a lot but not enough to rightly speak about complex topics like this one.)
"Loving someone means to discriminate against others" is something that I've never really thought much about until VS shed light on it. It's really one of the most unique and thought provoking themes I've seen tackled in a story. It's what made Canute into my favorite character of VS. Great video!
Thanks!
The def to discriminate is to recognize the difference or distinction in someone. So how is love discrimination?
@@thomaswashington2127 look at the video. We choose who we live in a BS way .
I love that priest's character
Canute’s speech about love and discrimination really gave me the impression that he rapidly adapted a new moral compass to deal with the loss of Ragnar. I remember watching and feeling really alienated and out of touch with self - probably exactly what he was feeling.
Excellent writing
Bald omni man - Weakest anime philosopher
This channel over the past 3 months has thrown me into an existential crisis and honestly I couldn’t be any happier please keep up the videos?
“First time?”
Lol. I'm glad(?) to hear that and I'll try my best so please keep supporting!
@@S_Warden 🤣
@@Aleczandxr I'd love to see more Vinland Saga content! Askeladd definitely deserves his own video at least
@@yiangaruga4928 He already said that he doesn't take requests from comments and that he won't be making more Vinland videos
This is one of my favorite themes in Vinland Saga.
It feels like too many series idolize the idea of love- portray it to be an absolute thing, something that is the end goal for everyone.
Vinland Saga brings out the dark parts of it. It makes the idea of love out to be not as fun and wonderful as it is on the surface. And because of that it makes love seem all the more beautiful.
You can't feel good without the bad, thats why we feel good when we work hard and achieve a goal, because that goal is the reminder of our hours of stress.
People forget that Hitler did what he did out of love for Germany. Love can be amazing, but just because you are loving doesn’t mean you are kind, or even a good person. Love can be very dangerous.
I would like a number 4 pls
@Yuri Markov bru
@@bigmanbarry2299 you could say love brings out the worst but also the best in people huh ?
Vinland Saga is a masterpiece that deserves recognition
Vinland saga got robbed of anime of the year 2019
@The D4C Gang yea, it’s unfortunate, but that’s how it is. They don’t base it off of which one is actually higher-grade 😔
Kimetsu no Yaiba is pretty decent but yeah it doesn't deserve the award. Still, you understand why it got it after it blew up
I agree 😤
Big facts. I'm sure everyone's dying to see if gets a new season. I hope it stays with Wit Studio.
@The D4C Gang Yeah regardless of what anyone says, all awards are a popularity contest
Out of context from this video but when Canute said "I wish I was born as your son. I would be really happy" to Ragnar, it killed me.
yea same
Not gonna lie, it's kinda hard to focus on what you're saying when you distract us with such a carefully crafted combination of sound and stunning visuals. Great work.
Thank you!
Thats skyrim ost for you.never gets old
Oh hey you too
Everyone obsesses over Askeladd but Canute is criminally underrated. His ideology is fundamentally different than the one Thorfinn developes later but he still embodies some of the values presented by Thors early on. His inclusion simply adds so much to the core themes of the story and when I see people claim he's lame because he's weak and he cries it makes me very sad
But where Thorfinn has the chance of softening his heart and regain compassion Canute is the inverse of this as he deals with the turmoil that comes with the brutality and pragmatism needed to lead in a viking age where conquest brutality and betrayal run rampant and where compassion is seen as weakness.
Canute lost himself. He sacrificed one naive worldview for a brutal, cynical one.
@@networknomad5600 no he didn’t. He’s the same as thorfinn he says so himself they’re just going about it differently
@@networknomad5600 Askeladd's poison took root. Whereas Thorfinn bore witness to his father's Christ-like selfishness, Canute was raised and coddled by Ragnar. Thors was a true warrior, while the series condemns Ragnar as merely a kind man; a coward. Sweyn wasn't the only one who passed the curse of the crown to the Prince, Askeladd's callousness and cunning were highly influential.
"We were expelled long ago. But through sheer agonizing effort, maybe we can aspire to reach that paradise once more. Wether it be through the swing of a sword or the shape of a hand." I love the poetic tone your videos take. There's so much atmosphere & sentiment. Great work!
Thanks mate!
@Trashthlete Ayy I'm from South Africa too!🔥❤️❤️
“Being kind to everyone simply means there’s no one special.” - Araragi Koyomi
Edit: This quote is obviously from a different anime so it has a completely different meaning that may even be contradictory to the message of the this video.
@Mr Temporal
Doesn't that just lead to discrimination ?
But it doesn't mean we should not try to kind to everyone. We human create loved ones or community and try to protect them for our entire life. But what if our community would be whole world and protecting them is our happiness. But it means we have to understand to love even the death of everyone.
I detect communism
Arararagi-kun
What if I dont care about being special and just want people to be kind to me
Welcome to the Vinland Saga. You're not stopping with just this one video.
Unfortunately, yeah I am lol. This will be the only video on the series, unless Season 2 gets announced and I think of a topic for that arc that I'd like to talk about. But the chances of even that are pretty low.
@@Aleczandxr i dont understand why tho? Is it lacking in themes?
Thorfinn is top 10 protagonist in manga
You mean Askellad?
No.
@@jwalkblue7 him too
Top 3
1. Guts
2. Musashi
3. Thorfinn
@@jwalkblue7 He said manga, which goes way beyond the War arc.
aleczandxr: I don't plan on making any videos on Vinland saga
me: Sure you don't
Not gonna lie, I had trouble wrapping my head around this theme when I first saw it in the anime lol
Most people seem to. Reactions expose people
Same, even tho I already read the manga and understood it fine. I appreciate the anime but it doesn't emphasize some things correctly, and even the few times it did it didn't carry as much weight as the books.
True. that old man defined love in a way I'd never imagine it to be.
@@bojackhorseman8251 The priest is not an old man; he’s only 23.
The anime messes around with the story sequence and it makes the show lesser as a result.
Canute became one of my favourite characters from his awakening alone
The philosophies presented in Vinland saga hit way too hard. It’s too real
Super underrated series.. I always loved the concept that love is in fact discrimination of those we don't/can't love. I'm an atheist but I do have to admit that if there would be a God like the one in Christianity then one of the main differences between it and humans is that a God can truly love everyone, humans cannot. No matter how much we try
Hi my friend I know you said your an atheist but please understand that Jesus died for our sins because we are NOT able to earn our own salvation through our good deeds, but by recognising that we are sinful at our very core and putting our trust in the sinless perfect life of Christ to wash away our sins and supernaturally give us a new heart through the Holy Spirit that allows us to want to obey him out of love.
There is only one way to heaven and that is through Jesus Christ, any other path leads to hell, Buddha is dead, Mohammed is dead but Jesus Christ is alive as he rose again on the 3rd day and is seated at the right hand of the Father and he will one day come back to judge the living and the dead.
@@WhosthatHotspice I have nothing against religions, my girlfriend is actually a Christian and a firm believer of most of what you said. We all have our own world views and I think that's awesome so long as we can accept one another and live side by side. That being said, my world view is to be an atheist and not believe in God or anything of sorts but I still find religious themes very interesting especially when there's lots of variety withing a certain idea kinda like the idea of love in Vinland Saga.
I recommend reading about the lives of the saints. They were truly able to love all humanity with the heart and love of Jesus Christ, and sacrificed their own lives, whether through actual death or self-sacrifice through ministry, for those they would never even meet. If you let the love of Jesus Christ work in you, then nothing is impossible.
@@yiangaruga4928 I know this is going to sound strange but would you mind telling me your name so I can pray for you?
I know it may be hard to believe now, but I am wholeheartedly urging you to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and saviour because he can supernaturally change your life forever. As someone who has genuinely experienced the supernatural presence of the Holy Spirit all I can do is encourage you to really seek the Lord Jesus Christ with all your heart, soul, mind and strength because there is only one road to get into heaven and regardless of all of our individual viewpoints we will all have to stand before God one day and give an account for the lives that we lived, where we will either be covered by the blood of Jesus Christ or crushed under the weight of our own sins.
He is so real and supernatural and he really wants a relationship with you, he doesn't want a bunch of boring, dry religious slaves who simply follow him out of obligation but rather a large family of firm spirit filled believers who are supernaturally changed from the inside out who have a string desire to obey him out of love and gratittude. I hope that you will find him one day, may the Lord Jesus Christ bless you abundantly my friend Amen.
@@WhosthatHotspice why do yoh believe that's the only way to heaven and why should i believe it? Not trying to start a fight
lets gooo, never thought we’d get a vinland saga analysis but im so happy about it. definitely one of the goats of manga
I just realized that a similar idea is presented in Hermann Hesse's Siddhartha.
@Rahul Aryan You should recommend this novel to him. Its a masterpiece.
Had to read this novel for high school and college and I absolutely loved the narrative and themes that were conveyed
@@Itachi-xi9sl Truly magnificent novel.
@@Itachi-xi9sl sorry if I sounded sarcastic in the last comment. I can't believe I forgot to write "novel".
The great thing is that there is a great example of love in Vinland saga through the actions of Thors. Love is not simply an emotion of care for others, but it is self gift to the other.
Me with crippling addiction to Berserk when I discover Vinland Saga: It is... Acceptable.
I’ve never really thought about this like this. Man this is such a cool concept
There’s also the fact that all values and actions have a good side and a dark side. For example say someone sacrifices thier life to save many, they will also be leaving loved ones behind to grieve.
See, the answer is to hate everyone equally just like Alucard.
lol
Honestly, yes that is fairer after all. Alucard was indeed a saint and a man intelligently lightyears ahead of everyone else.
@17 Ro **le gasp!** You do not know The Tale of The Crimson Fucker!? How dare you!
I do not exactly agree, but the setting of the story is sooooo different from our world that that sort of thinking may somewhat make sense... Still not believing it tho...
@@szurmatpl Pretty sure its a joke thou. Its a ref to alucard from the abridged series
“Many see pacifism as a foolhardy approach to peace.” That is because the methods for pacifism to work are gradual and intangible.
Violence fulfills another need for human psychology- quick and tangible results. But the instant gratification, as you say, is filling the road to peace with corpses.
peace is just time out therefol there is not real peace
Wow, this video was amazing. The analysis of love is discrimination was perfectly described, it sent chills down my spine. It’s really got me in existential thought rn, brilliant analysis of the anime, Alexander! This channel is heavily underrated
Glad you enjoyed it!
vinland saga's whole theme if you think about it is love and the different ways people view it which is beautiful
I love your videos and how carefully you choose your words to put your thoughts into a sentence. This and the precision you have picking up amazing pieces/phrases from anime scenes that make for great philosophical discussion are the two reasons i'm here. Thank you for your effort and keep it up.
I'm very happy to hear that. You're very welcome, and I'll try my best.
I was just rewatching the clip of Canute’s change last night. Such a unique take on true love and the struggle between the world and faith. Love hearing your opinion on it
haven’t even watched the video yet. just wanted to say this segment of the show wowed me. i was at a loss for words. really excited to see where you take this
Love it, the way the show tackled the subject of love was really eye opening. Great introspection here mate
Peak fiction here. Thorfinn top protagonist. Beautiful themes
My favorite TH-cam analyzer saying his analysis on one of my favorite mangas of all time- today is a good day.
When I saw this episode the first time I immediately thought to myself "Man I can't wait for Alec to cover this" since it seemed like something that' be right up your alley. Never before has an anime made me question a concept like this in such a way.
This episode was so beautifully directed. Need more of this approach for the next arc.
"To feel love equally for everyone in the world is to feel pain for every single death or tragedy" I'd love to see a video paralleling this to Fushi's journey in To Your Eternity
This is the video that convinced me to watch Vinland Saga. Oh god it was so worth it.
I missed your videos, had to search your channel and there i see lots of unseen gems! thanks for the analysis that you make, they are very elucidating.
You’re very welcome!
Thors actually fits the description of unconditional love as far as he could. He never tried to kill anyone, and tried to help anyone he could regardless of his financial limitations(Remember the slave he conforted until his death?)
Canute's awakening moment is often signified as Vinland Saga going from great to epic (well it literally has saga in its title). But I think, the scene worked so well especially because of that village girl from a few episodes back...where she watches her family get brutally murdered, and expects punishment for sinning, but gets nothing. She found freedom in the fact that there was neither punishment nor salvation. And then Canute spells it out for us..driving in that point harder. Both had uncovered the hypocrisy of religion, one by finding no salvation and one by finding no punishment.
Your first vinland saga video! I can't wait to see more from this series!
I won't be making any more Vinland videos but I'm glad you enjoyed this!
OMG. THANK YOU IN ADVANCE. I WAS WAITING FOR THIS
Will never get tired of your "many thanks for watching". Great vid as always
Thanks!
A Vinland Saga video essay about the deeper themes of this story with The Witcher 3 music. Perfection!
Thank you for releasing on my birthday
Happy birthday!
Happy Birthday, hope your able to enjoy it in spite of quarantine.
Happy Belated Birthday! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Alexander talking about Vinland Saga I’ve been waiting for this day.
I find this story beautifully bittersweet, since we know how the Vinland settlements and Cnut's kingdom ended up
A beautifully amazing video as always keep up the good work
Thank you very much!
I'm not familiar with Vinland Saga but your message went to my heart.
I’m very glad it was valuable for you.
Selfishly loving someone is part of what real love actually is. To want to hold someone close to you is to cherish them. To know someone deeply is to love them. But to forgive someone you do not know may be inherently the most powerful part of love there is. Like snow falling to the ground or a tree dying peacfully without remark. Loving someone or something despite what you lose or gain is in itself the true essence of the word we call love. Truly there is no discrimination in human love made right. Within "human love" is the ability to exert your own grace upon the world. And grace is what its all about.
Excellent as always AJ. The the theme that you articulate in this video is what got me so hooked on this series. You're a pro adapter of themes, the adaptations always hit. Keep up the good work.
Thanks very much! I’ll be trying my best.
I remember you saying you wouldn't do a video on Vinland.. I'm so glad you did
I love this outlook in vindland and your videos man. Always a mental treat! Keep up the good work
Glad you got to watch this masterpiece
YES! i was hoping to see your analysis on vinland saga since you always do an amazing job analyzing and breaking down complex stories like these.
I'm so happy that you made a video on vinland saga. Aot and VS are two of my favourite stories ever.
Same .. I don't know but both hits different but feels so similar to each other.. Maybe it's because the Philosophy .... Or the studio(wit)..... But both are truely amazing stories..
@@कपाट-यन्त्रदुर्धर्षाबभूवुःसहु well both have a lot of themes in common too just different stories and people.
Yess the legend is is back with another banger
“This is how they get us, they convince us that they ain’t no future, that there’s only a eternal now, and the best we can do is survive until dawn, and do it all again, that’s no way to live.”
-King Isaac: Castlevania
This was such a good anime and can't wait for the next season, seeing Canute awaken and how the characters talk about Vinland was so amazing I really loved the tracks Awaken and Somewhere else.
Let’s hope this one isn’t killed by copyright abuse
You know it will be
Beautiful video! I haven't seen the show yet (and I know I'm supposed to before watching this video haha), but this definitely sold me on watching it. Everything I've seen from your channel so far has managed to strike a chord with me in completely unexpected ways. Whenever I come across one of your videos I'm reminded of why I fell in love with the medium in the first place and why I'm so passionate about analyzing everything I watch. Love your content man. Keep it up!
Very glad you enjoyed! Thanks for the support, and I'll try my best to keep it up.
The talk that Prince Canute had with the priest was both beautiful and unsettling...
Always enjoy every video you drop honestly
I've been waiting for an analysis video on Vinland Saga's philosophy of love. When I had watched that episode I didn't understand it. I couldn't understand why death would mean true love and the love that was understood before this was discrimination. For me true love was unconditional, but after this episode I pondered it and back in the summer time I started reading this book called The way to Love, which opened my eyes to true love and how to love. Thank you for this video Alexcander.
You're very welcome!
他麦わらの海賊 I remember seeing you on some Darker than Black Ost videos, nice to see you again my friend.
@@WhosthatHotspice ayee, I'm surprised people are starting to recognize me. That's crazy. Nice to see you too
We all were like that drunk priest while watching Canute grow to become a true warrior .
Love is needed to be a true warrior .
This is my thought about Love .
and seeing Thorfinn understanding love because of Askellad (specially his last line What do u want to do from now ) he starts also becoming a true warrior from this moment since he also finally understands Love .
And Thorkil will never be a true warrior, because he does not love.
Which is why I don’t think Canute has it. Thorfinn was able to get it from Askellad and before that his father. They were able to see both men give of themselves for the other, thus he has a true understanding of love.
@@munken7673 Thorkell was not able to become a true warrior as like he said he regretted not following Thors . If he had then he might have been able to but now he is with Canute but i dont think he will ever be a true warrior since he is already a beast who cannot mature from now . Since its too late .
@@TheJmlew11 yes , you are correct about it .
@@TheJmlew11 But he does get it by the end of the farmland arc, when Thorfinn chose not to attack him and his men, he realised that thar is love in humanity.
There was me while waiting for the sleep to take over thinking that as long as human knew "love", there would be wars.
“Love is discrimination”
in essence I can kind of see it in how we put the needs of our family before everyone else even ourselves
but “Family” can mean many things for good or ill, related or not
in the end Love in any form is all we have and the bonds we make while fleeting is what connects us from here on earth to…
whatever comes next be it heaven or the next world
at least that’s what I think❤
This video came out just in time for my morning coffee and contemplation
Great video once again!
This exchange was the one that got me thinking the most after watching it.
Discrimination in itself isn't a bad thing. You discriminate on which clothing to wear, what food to eat, what friends to pursue... it ain't an objective bad.
discrimination is just discernment which is the source of wisdom. that is the uncomfortable truth.
this video was so short. I love your content so much please never stop
This show changed my life. Loved this analysis, would love to see more. Your editing is also top-notch. Took me a minute to realize “... Hey! That wasn’t in the show!”
Glad you enjoyed, and you can see more if you take a look through the channel! I have tons of videos like this :)
Just finished VS and remembered that I saw video on your channel about it so I immediately went to watch it. Masterpiece of a anime
It was a very relaxing and calm video my man ! And it helped me to reflect once again on this masterpiece of a series. Many thanks to you Alex ✌🏾🖤
My pleasure!
Just recently finished this masterpiece of a show. Can't wait to get back into the manga!
i was just thinking about this scene earlier today. wonderful video, you're really talented at putting thoughts into words and making them flow together in such a natural and atmospheric manner, and for such a short length of time as well!
i remember reading the manga and this scene really left me contemplating what love really means. when all you've seen of love is it portrayed as this beautiful, ultimate aspiration you work towards, when suddenly this series comes into the table and is not afraid to bring out the hypocritical aspect of it to attention, that in turn makes the love we share that much more important and how truly human we are by not being able to encompass care towards every possible living thing, i'd never seen it put that way but it resonated with me so much. i think it's when vinland saga really captured my attention and went from great to truly amazing to me
Much appreciated! I totally agree, it's a special moment and scene.
You're really good at putting these things into words. I had some similar thoughts when I watched and rewatched the show but you put it together very coherently. Great vid as always, not switching to the manga has been difficult for this show ngl.
Thank you!
@@AleczandxrNo problem 😊
@@epicduck0574 Why haven't you switched to the manga?
@@ra-tz9hg I prefer anime over manga, I think anime is a better medium for me to get immersed into. Completely subjective ik lol. I will read the manga if there's no sign of an anime coming out any time soon, like with hxh and berserk.
@@epicduck0574 Mhm that's totally fine, thanks a lot for sharing so kindly-
Dman,that's quite deep for an anime
I believe the story eventually will try to answer the question of whether to aquire peace one needs to fight his way through it till the end (Canute's way) or to not fight anymore (thorrfin's way)
My take is that it won't give a clear answer because there isn't one.
To not fight at all is the ideal and if you can somehow protect your people and find a balance with your neighbors that will allow you to live in peace, that's great. But that is realistically impossible, no nation has certainties after all.
So, I believe that Canute's way, to fight and bring everyone in the vicinity under your rule and sphere of influence so as to create a community that live in peace under the same rules and way of life might be necessary.
In sort, strive for peace as Thorfinn, but be prepared to go to war like Canute is the only realistic option we have. Or as the Romans used to say, Si vis Pacem, Para Bellum, meaning "If you want Peace, Prepare for War".
Vinland is one of my top 5 favorite anime of all time. I'm really glad to see you cover it! Would love to see more too, this was a very interesting perspective :)
I won't be making any more videos on Vinland Saga, but I'm happy that you liked this one!
The awakening of King Canute is one of my favorite scenes in anime and as far as I have seen one of the most impactful and important. Seriously holds so much meaning
bruh i was literally rewatching the op today and now you make a vinland saga vid 😭🔥
I am a simple man I see Aleczandxr upload a video I like and watch it then I watch that anime .
Anyone interested in this should reference Nitze's concept of immaculate perception.
"This parable speak I unto you sentimental dissemblers, unto you, the "pure discerners!" You do I call-covetous ones!
Also ye love the earth, and the earthly: I have divined you well!- but shame is in your love, and a bad conscience-ye are like the moon!
To despise the earthly hath your spirit been persuaded, but not your bowels: these, however, are the strongest in you!
And now is your spirit ashamed to be at the service of your bowels, and goeth in by-ways and lying ways to escape its own shame.
"That would be the highest thing for me"-so saith your lying spirit unto itself-"to gaze upon life without desire, and not like the dog, with hanging-out tongue:
To be happy in gazing: with dead will, free from the grip and greed of selfishness-cold and ashy-grey all over, but with intoxicated moon-eyes!
That would be the dearest thing to me"-thus doth the seduced one seduce himself,-"to love the earth as the moon loveth it, and with the eye only to feel its beauty.
And this do I call immaculate perception of all things: to want nothing else from them, but to be allowed to lie before them as a mirror with a hundred facets."-
Oh, ye sentimental dissemblers, ye covetous ones! Ye lack innocence in your desire: and now do ye defame desiring on that account!
Verily, not as creators, as procreators, or as jubilators do ye love the earth!!
The music making me want to go back to Skyrim... Great Video btw, definitely one of the standout moments in Vinland Saga Season 1 and a huge part in Canute's development
When I first watched this scene I was already waiting for you to make a video over it
I don’t think the opposite of love is hate. It’s actually indifference.
I understand the draw to referring to that famous quote, but I didn't actually say that the opposite of love was hate in the video, lol
@@Aleczandxr Ahh when you drew parallels between love and hate and the thin line between them in the beginning of the video I got confused and felt compelled to say something.
@@Aleczandxr after rewatching your introduction I realized that you’re not saying they’re opposites but that they’re closely related
When I first heard the priest's explanation of Love, I had a near existential crisis
Vinland saga is the goat
I litterally said YES out loud when i saw your name under the title! i was longing for this Content
Alec and Vinland Saga, a pair made for intrigue.
That episode answered a lot of my life questions.
Been waiting forever for a Vinland Saga video!!
I have heard it is possible to achieve unconditional love through psychological death of the self/identity. All I need to do is realize there is no self. That there is nobody behind the eyes recording every experience, just perception without subject or object.
great video. I loved Canute's revelation at the end of the prequel