I have yet to see anyone mention the practicality of a 2.0 NA engine. No turbo maintenance and extra costs, fuel economy, and he did mention it but less power means pushing the car harder and that is where the smiles are.
I must point out that all the sports cars (including sports hatchbacks) sold these days are mainly performance orientated, but I must really give a round of applause for Toyota/Subaru of showing the world that it's not only the speed that makes the sports car. and that they still have passion for a real race car that could be driven on road by anyone. After all, it would have been a gamble for them
I don't think the interior is that bad. Yes, it's all plastic -but so is a Ford Focus interior!- but the layout is very good and simple, just what a sportscar needs! The steeringwheel is nice, so is the gearstick and if you add the optional black/red alcantara seats, you really have all a sportscar needs and more! But I wouldn't spend that much on the average navigationsystem indeed. Just order it with the standard radio and spend less then half of the money on a nice aftermarket one and a small TomTom Nav. ;)
Put the fun back into driving.....I missed the good old >5k high revving fun as I am driving a turbo engine car now where peak horsepower and torque comes early at 2-3k rpm range...While Turbo is more powerful and fast, but its the high revs that sends my blood and excitement rushing.
Historically GT86 which was from AE86 from the 80", was not just fast car. It is driver orientated race car, that gives you fun when you are behind the wheel. If you know what Boxer engine is and you know what the benefits are then you know this is typical sports car. Basically since it is boxer engine, you can place the engine very low down, and this helps the car with the weight management which is must on a race car. This is one of the reason why you can drift it really well.
I LOVE YOU ...Great job. Most other reviews of this car seem to come verbatim from the sales catalog. Whilst I love the car, I hadn't noticed any of these short-comings
I had the same head unit, amp and subwoofer in my Toyota hilux intimidator back in 2008 so they really could have fit a newer version. But it was one of the best sound systems I've heard :D
It feels like people are hating on this car because of the lack of performance. I look at it like a blank canvas. It's super lightweight, and there's already supercharging kits out there that can bump you near 300hp for about 6 grand, which at this weight class is pretty awesome in my opinion.
Nice review Mat.This car is pretty cheap here in Canada. The Toyota is branded as a Scion. Both cars are $25000 Canadian plus tax. Thats's !5,700 pounds plus freight prep and our HST of 13%. Same as you VAT.
Mat- you never fail to entertain, and get your work done while at it. There is something unique about these reviews that I always look forward to. Great job. Regarding the comparison, they seem too different dynamically to choose by video alone. These cars need to be driven before making a decision.
I don't know what warranty direct results youve been looking at mate because there are no french cars in the top 10. The best manufacturer peugeot comes in at 12 out of 35 and renault is 27th. The top three manufacturers are all japanese.
Normally i like these carbuyer reviews but Mat completly missed the point of the BRZ. Its not a passenger hauler, its a 2 door rear wheel drive sports car which was built to be fun. As for interior quality it is purposely kept simple because subaru/toyota have noticed that all modern sports car are overloaded with technology which takes away from the driving pleasure. I myself drove and reviewed the GT86 and it is a brilliant sports car.
stock form (frs), i made 0-60 in around 6.8 and spent $700 (tuned the sucker) and shaved another .6 to .8 second off that time. still spent less than 26 grand and now its not so slow... its not hard to improve this cars performance.
Problem with this vs the GT86, is the lack of Suburu dealers in most of the country. Where as Toyota are everywhere (and if there isn't one near you, you can go to Lexus instead).
This may not have all the power, but i bet it's a great drivers car. Manual gearbox, rwd and lsd. Cheap as well. Usually i hate the looks of japanese cars, but i kinda like this.
Well after owning a Ford Focus for 10 years with hardly problems, and never even a rattle I cant agree! Yes even at 170000 kms it hardly burnt any oil, yes their engines are good!
nice reviews, BRZ or GT86 is my dream car. Damn, I love the body design. But, the price of second condition Audi TT is similar. what is the best coupe car?
Well...not sure where ur from but over here in australia, the 135 or 1M is significantly more expensive than a BRZ/86 and while the Megane is a great car you cant really drift in it if you want to...the BRZ is a great example of "back to basics" sports coupe
I would like to own the Subaru but the nearest dealership to me is a 40 minutes drive which is not what I want for a car that I will be driving everyday. I think realistically it would have to be the Toyota because of the better dealer network being larger and from what I have heard better service than what Subaru does
Nice looking car but I think the behind seat space is weird z why don't they just make the back storage wider since...they don't focus on the function of back seat...@@
I like the interior honestly, its not cluttered, and to be honest, it doesn't seem to need any more hp for what it's trying to accomplish. That being said, BMW do make a 3.0l 6 that i'm sure could be added to the engine bay... :P
When Coke Zero launched it was totally different to Diet, however Diet had its ingredients totally changed a few years back replacing all the E numbers with stuff that wasn't really bad for you, that's why today they are so similar :P
Because this is a sports car, the 1 series isn't. This beauty will give you sharp steering and handling comparable to much more expensive cars But yeah, a sports-car might not be your thing if you care a lot about practicality. As for performance 200hp/1150kg should be enough for most people, you could always tune it a bit if you want more or wait for a tubro-charged version The beauty of the interior is up to the eye of the beholder, at least it isn't as bad as the average plastic American :/
And spend money you will about 8 thousand dollars more for the base N/A 240 hp six in the US. The BRZ is more fun and better balanced balls out. If they put the turbo 4 and cut 200 pounds from the 1 it would smoke the BRZ. It would also smoke the 3 and that's a no no. The 1 coupe weighs a whopping 400 pounds more than the BRZ. You feel that mass.
Why have the 0-60 times varied so wildly for this car?!? I've heard as low as 6.2 seconds.. And as high as, well this reported time is the highest I've heard.
Although the handling on THESE toyotas/subarus are better than the more comfort orientated (and brand-image-snob orientated for that matter) Audi's. Btw, Toyota is the number 2 most reliable brand out there, Audi isnt even in the top ten, as are none of the german brands, exept one: Mercedes. German cars are so overrated because of their image and their so called premium badge they carry. Ow well, I consider myself a well informed consumer, but hey, each their own right..
@@duncanidaho7494 btw, who are you calling kid. From all I know you ride a bycicle and your only 'car experiences' comes from watching youtube dragraces and Topgear. But hey I could be wrong, you could be a some spoiled rich kid with too much money thats not bothered wich paying repair bills of his M8. That or the kid that craves for an M8 but dailys a 318d with an M badge....
Just like Mat you are completely overlooking the point of this car. If you knew anything about simple budget sports car's you would not be making that comparisson. The BRZ/GT-86,FRS symbolises relatively inexpensive fun sports car's. Yes it has less than 200 BHP but it doesn't matter because it's a fun car to drive and its all about the sensation of driving a car that is a good laugh and fun to chuck around. And it's not a ricer, as a matter of fact I don't think you even know what a ricer is.
This car is all about Balance, Engineering and Driver satisfaction and its not exactly slow. It is fast just not very fast If you find driver enjoyment in other ways go buy a VW golf Gti/ Vauxhall VXR or something similiar like all sheep do.
I own one of this
5 years later I still love it like the first day.
Does £9,000 for 100K miles sound like too much?
In my country, the GT 86 costs 47k euros and the BRZ costs 34k euros. Guess which one I got?
86..
It has been 5 years....and you still not tell the answer
@@amiramiruddin7343 6 years now smh
You never told us 😢
2021 and we still don't know which one you chose 🤣
I love this car, subaru outdid themselves
f*ck google now they just need to release a turbocharged STi model!!
@@K20TypeR umm, google?
True.
Goddamn this guy why does he compare everything to an audi
I have yet to see anyone mention the practicality of a 2.0 NA engine. No turbo maintenance and extra costs, fuel economy, and he did mention it but less power means pushing the car harder and that is where the smiles are.
I saw a black gt86 on the streets. Man it looked like a millon. Man i want one
Hell Yeah, a reviewer who understands the BRZ/GT86.
Awesome car Just bought the BRZ yesterday and its a fun car to drive!!!
I must point out that all the sports cars (including sports hatchbacks) sold these days are mainly performance orientated, but I must really give a round of applause for Toyota/Subaru of showing the world that it's not only the speed that makes the sports car. and that they still have passion for a real race car that could be driven on road by anyone. After all, it would have been a gamble for them
I don't think the interior is that bad. Yes, it's all plastic -but so is a Ford Focus interior!- but the layout is very good and simple, just what a sportscar needs! The steeringwheel is nice, so is the gearstick and if you add the optional black/red alcantara seats, you really have all a sportscar needs and more!
But I wouldn't spend that much on the average navigationsystem indeed. Just order it with the standard radio and spend less then half of the money on a nice aftermarket one and a small TomTom Nav. ;)
Don't what's so special about TT's rather have a A5 and the TT's rear seats are unusable even the gt86 has more space in the back
Put the fun back into driving.....I missed the good old >5k high revving fun as I am driving a turbo engine car now where peak horsepower and torque comes early at 2-3k rpm range...While Turbo is more powerful and fast, but its the high revs that sends my blood and excitement rushing.
SK L Same. Get a Honda S2000, you'll love that.
Like a Mazda!
Historically GT86 which was from AE86 from the 80", was not just fast car. It is driver orientated race car, that gives you fun when you are behind the wheel. If you know what Boxer engine is and you know what the benefits are then you know this is typical sports car. Basically since it is boxer engine, you can place the engine very low down, and this helps the car with the weight management which is must on a race car. This is one of the reason why you can drift it really well.
The BRZ's front end looks so much better than the 86. This would be be order winner for me if I was shopping for one of these.
These reviews are so played out yet you found something entertaining, unique, and substantial to report on. Fantastic job!
I love the Subaru BRZ it's a fantastic and awesome car!!!
I prefer the look of the BRZ compared to the GT 86.
I LOVE YOU ...Great job. Most other reviews of this car seem to come verbatim from the sales catalog. Whilst I love the car, I hadn't noticed any of these short-comings
They are? Been waiting for them to do this for ages!
Wow, 300 HP and some wider rims and stickier tires would make this car a rocketship.
I'm sorry but that Pioneer satnav system is actually incredibly simple and easy to use
Auto carwash great way to scratch the car :)
***** Another symptom of the drive-thru lazy mentality. Why not spend a half hour doing it yourself and prevent it in the first place?
+The Rusty Scooter They leave swirl marks all over the car which look terrible in the sun.
+The Rusty Scooter They leave swirl marks all over the car which look terrible in the sun.
Thrashing the engine is not a negative, means you can have a great time at normal speeds.
True. Well next week on Top Gear Clarkson is testing the BRZ and GT86 so looking forward to what he has to say.
I had the same head unit, amp and subwoofer in my Toyota hilux intimidator back in 2008 so they really could have fit a newer version. But it was one of the best sound systems I've heard :D
It feels like people are hating on this car because of the lack of performance. I look at it like a blank canvas. It's super lightweight, and there's already supercharging kits out there that can bump you near 300hp for about 6 grand, which at this weight class is pretty awesome in my opinion.
"The Subaru BRZ isn't as posh as an Audi TT" LOL, LMAO
The Coupe was a good car which handled pretty well, plus you gotta' let Hyundai off a little because they don't usually make sporty cars.
Matt ?
Nice review Mat.This car is pretty cheap here in Canada. The Toyota is branded as a Scion. Both cars are $25000 Canadian plus tax. Thats's !5,700 pounds plus freight prep and our HST of 13%. Same as you VAT.
Mat- you never fail to entertain, and get your work done while at it. There is something unique about these reviews that I always look forward to. Great job. Regarding the comparison, they seem too different dynamically to choose by video alone. These cars need to be driven before making a decision.
If Subaru can also do my homework for the next 3 years as a part of their after sales service I'm sold
I don't know what warranty direct results youve been looking at mate because there are no french cars in the top 10. The best manufacturer peugeot comes in at 12 out of 35 and renault is 27th. The top three manufacturers are all japanese.
love this car, big fan of small sports cars
I wish we had that exhaust here in the US
Normally i like these carbuyer reviews but Mat completly missed the point of the BRZ. Its not a passenger hauler, its a 2 door rear wheel drive sports car which was built to be fun. As for interior quality it is purposely kept simple because subaru/toyota have noticed that all modern sports car are overloaded with technology which takes away from the driving pleasure. I myself drove and reviewed the GT86 and it is a brilliant sports car.
i enjoy mat's reviews,keep them coming!
what matt doing here go back to carwow lol
You can change the colors to what you desire on the Sat Nav Stereo. At least in US model you can.
good point but i don't think a gear change takes over a second in a performance 0-60 run...
are you sure that this car isn't the Toyota GT86
Absolutely agree no end give the Coupe 200hp and it would still be the better car.
lol weird to see mat not doing carwow watching from 2020
Mat Watson?
stock form (frs), i made 0-60 in around 6.8 and spent $700 (tuned the sucker) and shaved another .6 to .8 second off that time. still spent less than 26 grand and now its not so slow... its not hard to improve this cars performance.
Problem with this vs the GT86, is the lack of Suburu dealers in most of the country. Where as Toyota are everywhere (and if there isn't one near you, you can go to Lexus instead).
What choo Lookinat depends on what country you live in tho
This may not have all the power, but i bet it's a great drivers car. Manual gearbox, rwd and lsd. Cheap as well. Usually i hate the looks of japanese cars, but i kinda like this.
If you REALLY want more power. Strap a turbo on it or wait for the sti-version.
These reviews from carbuyer are addictive.. Help.. Me..
Well after owning a Ford Focus for 10 years with hardly problems, and never even a rattle I cant agree!
Yes even at 170000 kms it hardly burnt any oil, yes their engines are good!
nice reviews, BRZ or GT86 is my dream car. Damn, I love the body design. But, the price of second condition Audi TT is similar. what is the best coupe car?
Get the Audi.
Most interested question for me; can you bring brz to toyota dealer to fix?
finally the review of the brz!!
It doesn't mean you can't put soft touch plastics on the dash board though...
Well...not sure where ur from but over here in australia, the 135 or 1M is significantly more expensive than a BRZ/86 and while the Megane is a great car you cant really drift in it if you want to...the BRZ is a great example of "back to basics" sports coupe
This is my dream car.
those headlamps are so similar to the new vauxhall lamps
How much does this car cost in euros?
subaru cars are made for people which do not lisen, just drive, anywhere and anytime
+greg k u do not make any sense
I would like to own the Subaru but the nearest dealership to me is a 40 minutes drive which is not what I want for a car that I will be driving everyday.
I think realistically it would have to be the Toyota because of the better dealer network being larger and from what I have heard better service than what Subaru does
what's with the vid's quality?
i love Mat's reviews :D
whats the differnce between toyota gt86 and scion frs?
Sure its got a "back seat", but these two cars are made for two things, great driving experience and DRIFTING!
nice review. Very informative
*Opel, vauxhall is british ersion of OPEL
Nice looking car but I think the behind seat space is weird z
why don't they just make the back storage wider since...they don't focus on the function of back seat...@@
simply love the sat nav joke!!!!
200 hp is much more than I can even handle at its full potential lol
I like the interior honestly, its not cluttered, and to be honest, it doesn't seem to need any more hp for what it's trying to accomplish. That being said, BMW do make a 3.0l 6 that i'm sure could be added to the engine bay... :P
I don't know mat have review cars in this channel
If Subaru do my dishes, I'm definitely buying one of these.
who’s watching this in 2022 coming from carwow?
Yeah in the UK we don't pronounce 'Z' as zee, but as zed
When Coke Zero launched it was totally different to Diet, however Diet had its ingredients totally changed a few years back replacing all the E numbers with stuff that wasn't really bad for you, that's why today they are so similar :P
86 people who disliked this video are GT86 fans I guess
weeeell.. I know its a joke but if you are a brz driver and hate the 86, and vice versa, you hate your own car lol. its really just the same thing
Gt86 or brz
0:14 best analogy ever
In the Toyota GT86 7.6 seconds is slow but in the Subaru BRZ is quick
To be honest he covered this is the GT86 review vis-a-vis they are 99% identical as he says.
BTW the engine is noisy and you have to rev it on the Porsche Boxter/Cayman too. The Subaru costs 1/3 and drives like 80s 911.
86 looks better
Matt is the automotive review master of time.
Great review, would go for this over the TT
Because this is a sports car, the 1 series isn't. This beauty will give you sharp steering and handling comparable to much more expensive cars
But yeah, a sports-car might not be your thing if you care a lot about practicality. As for performance 200hp/1150kg should be enough for most people, you could always tune it a bit if you want more or wait for a tubro-charged version
The beauty of the interior is up to the eye of the beholder, at least it isn't as bad as the average plastic American :/
i'll choose the brz rather then the 86 or frs
it's actually 6.2 seconds. maybe the car they tested was 7.6, high altitude might have an effect on that.
i think that GT 86 is the Best
you dont like the BRZ?
Our Renault is still not drinking oil after 360000kms :P
The rest of the car is average, but that D8T engine is bulletproof.
86 or BRZ any insights?
Honestly I wouldn't get the 86 at all. The FRS understeers more, but honestly for all around authenticity - BRZ.
John LeBanana NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! the FRS is more tail happy because the rear of the car is firmer
I think if the Hyundai Coupe was still in production, it would be a worthy opponent for the BRZ..
And spend money you will about 8 thousand dollars more for the base N/A 240 hp six in the US. The BRZ is more fun and better balanced balls out. If they put the turbo 4 and cut 200 pounds from the 1 it would smoke the BRZ. It would also smoke the 3 and that's a no no. The 1 coupe weighs a whopping 400 pounds more than the BRZ. You feel that mass.
Why have the 0-60 times varied so wildly for this car?!? I've heard as low as 6.2 seconds.. And as high as, well this reported time is the highest I've heard.
I'm glad Toyota didn't kill the character of Subaru
great
does this mean the scion is the actual cola? erm, i think the subaru is the actual cola and the other two are the light/zero
I love Mat. He's so charming.
Why did he switched to car wow
Although the handling on THESE toyotas/subarus are better than the more comfort orientated (and brand-image-snob orientated for that matter) Audi's.
Btw, Toyota is the number 2 most reliable brand out there, Audi isnt even in the top ten, as are none of the german brands, exept one: Mercedes.
German cars are so overrated because of their image and their so called premium badge they carry. Ow well, I consider myself a well informed consumer, but hey, each their own right..
You are biased.
@@duncanidaho7494 if I am, I know you must be even harder
Erikootje sorry kid, but to say they are overrated it means you have never even driven a real german car.
@@duncanidaho7494 btw, who are you calling kid.
From all I know you ride a bycicle and your only 'car experiences' comes from watching youtube dragraces and Topgear.
But hey I could be wrong, you could be a some spoiled rich kid with too much money thats not bothered wich paying repair bills of his M8.
That or the kid that craves for an M8 but dailys a 318d with an M badge....
Just like Mat you are completely overlooking the point of this car. If you knew anything about simple budget sports car's you would not be making that comparisson. The BRZ/GT-86,FRS symbolises relatively inexpensive fun sports car's. Yes it has less than 200 BHP but it doesn't matter because it's a fun car to drive and its all about the sensation of driving a car that is a good laugh and fun to chuck around. And it's not a ricer, as a matter of fact I don't think you even know what a ricer is.
This car is all about Balance, Engineering and Driver satisfaction and its not exactly slow. It is fast just not very fast
If you find driver enjoyment in other ways go buy a VW golf Gti/ Vauxhall VXR or something similiar like all sheep do.