The Sherman Max perhaps has the most surprising results. For the impatient, use the Time Index in the Description to jump to the 5-minute test. If that's still too long then you probably shouldn't be viewing my channel 😃
Finally, we have EUC's that don't burn out on steep hills ... things have come a long way! ... Now we just need batteries that won't catch fire LOL. Its impressive how far things have advanced in such a short time.
Damn. Came a loooong way with these wheels!!! Before we had to travel up Over Heat at sluggish speed with mother board frying. Now we are shooting up these hills at bicycle speed with no worries. Looking good the future of eucs. (Just gotta produce zero cutout wheels) GREAT JOB MARTY AND EEVEES!!!!
Some ppl got their max super fast from distributors that have it in stock such as Eevee’s as I just saw on Facebook this morning, however there are almost no Sherman Max reviews or videos besides quick demos that are being overshadowed by S20 content and hype and the regular speculative nonsense. It’s infuriating because I am interested in getting one.
@@TaiLegend some of the few that have videos of the sherman max are Alexutlang and MIGZ DERULO. Do a youtube search with their names and look at their videos. The comments in their videos they answer a lot of the questions related to the sherman max. I think within the next month we will see a lot more reviews coming out because people will start getting their preorders late March. Ms Crusher youtube channel recently got her sherman max and will do a review shortly as well
Marty you were cruising on the Hero!! The C38 is an amazing torque motor, I can't wait to get my copy of the Master!You guys are so blessed with all the trails! Good stuff!
Glad to finally see someone that weighs 220lbs on a wheel. Would be great to see reviews of wheels with a 170lb rider that uses a weighted backpack that then increases total weight to 190, 210, 230, 250, and repeats same course, climbing, acceleration, handling, braking, top speed beeps. Only my opinion, but I think that would be a really solid, well rounded way to review these wheels.
Really good suggestions. Unfortunately this isn't a money making endeavor and doing a bunch of tests like you suggest would be like a job that doesn't pay anything LOL.
Overheat was the thing stopping me from getting a Commander right away, but wow that cool running Sherman Max has my interest piqued. S20 needing some extra lean to make it up the hill is consistent with power delivery impressions over the S20 demos so far. Great footage and video!!
RAD. Nice to have a DRY run compared to San Fran. Nice to see you all made it.. But it's good "reality" footage when you don't too. ;) Thanks for sharing. Love the "Eh Team"
Again a great ride with some awesome views. I am glad most of the new wheels dont have a problem going up this hill. It means there are improvements. Hope the HERO is running quieter after giving the suspension some oil. I thought it might have been the body plastics rattling like that.
The result of Max is interesting because it barely has enough room for air intake and no cooling box. Can't wait to see how the 60 mph wheels perform on the overheat hill, starting with Master!
@@ElectricUnicycles I went back and watched it a couple of times to try to figure out what she was zoned out on. Not a phone. Not a book. Just the dirt... Apparently lol
Thanks Marty for testing S20 and Max and glad to see Sherman Max making Overheat Hill this time!!! Recently sold S18 and Sherman being replace by Max and S20. Jason eWheel should have Max pretty soon!
Shout out to you Marty. Pretty soon electric unicycle wheel engineers are going to use that as a test ground. Love your videos dude. Shout out to Sensei Vegan DUF and everyone that knows these good people!! ✌️✌️✌️✌️✌️
@@patrickmckowen2999 Even without pads it doesn't take a terrible amount of convincing to get an MSP to go. Without pads the s20 would be downright hard work lol.
@@GingerOnWheels for the most part yes, my problem was on some steep switch backs I have near me. Before pads I was on my front balls of feet losing all my balance and lm 200. Pads added and Bobs your uncle, had to make sure I slowed down going up into the turns🤣.
@@patrickmckowen2999 oh yeah, now I know what you mean. Standing on your tippy toes on tricky offroad stuff feels kind of like ballerina dancing, not a fan of that either. 🕺
👍Great skills with the media production,🎬 BTW 🤔 What model drone, and how many batteries used for this ride? AND thx for all the work putting these productions together🎥
@@ElectricUnicycles so that explains the precise ai object tracking performance 👍 Looked as good as a human operator, (maybe even better) needless to say it still requires most excellent MULTITASKING abilities from the pilot/EUC rider. It was intriguing seeing how far back the other riders were when in comparison to your lead position. Especially when the ground level pole camera lost sight of them. It's a great time to be alive during this age of all the different technologies and their ongoing advancements. Thanks for precisely testing, documenting, and organising these experimental adventure rides🎓🗽🎯
@electricUnicycles Which EUC was making all those "clicking/grinding" sounds? Was it just the Hero, or all three of them? I feel like that would be a dealbreaker to listen to whenever you are riding it. Does it sound better in person than on video, with a helmet on? Edit: For anyone else who doesn't want to watch a 20 minute video again for this answer: Just the Begode Hero. The note that "most" of the noise went away after he oiled the shocks is the most detail the video appears to have.
@@TheThunderwars I can't say definitively since I don't have a Max but all high-torque versions of wheels have a specially constructed motor that provides the torque. I've never heard of a high-torque AND high-speed EUC.
Hey the only thing I think you should add to this video is the fact that the test had a massive variable and that’s the weight of the rider, your probably what 160-170 lbs? And the cat on the eagle was what 220-240??. That’s a 60lb+ difference and I 100% think the eagle would beat the other two wheels if you rode both in same conditions.. but not a big deal Another crazy thought..if the weight of all you riders was different by 1-10 bs at least, the temp would be slightly different and then you guys wouldn’t have come in at the exact same… think about the odds of that happening… it’s essentially a miracle/stroke of luck… I think your ride was blessed I just gotta say, that’s blowing my mind how hard that would be to replicate that scenario randomly … Anyways great video! Shi shi
Thanks for the comment. Yeah, this isn't a super-scientific test but it's not too bad considering my budget :-) FYI, my riding weight that day was ~185-pounds
@@ElectricUnicycles with that weight doing overheat hill is awesome news if your any lighter, which I am. All the wheels did pretty good though, I hope all the new wheels have the heat sinks and air flow needed to stay cool, things like that should be #1 in creation, that’s why I’m sticking with king song , that and suspension rock on mtns and massive jumps
Did you hear and feel the Hero rattling? Do you know where the rattling was coming from, suspect the suspension? And looks like you need a bigger, steeper over heat hill. These wheels look great. Great job!
Hello, I want to buy the S20 in Brazil, but I have a question: Is it possible to exceed the maximum speed of 70km/h? I know it's dangerous, but if I want to take this risk, by downloading the Euc Word app, can I activate and release it so that I can exceed the maximum speed of 70km/h? If I don't use any app, can I originally exceed the maximum speed?
I have a Hero C38 and love it, powerful wheel and so smooth! My suspension hasn't ever creaked from the factory, good to know I may just need to lube it up if it does.
The riders appeared to be using hand-held wireless telemetry devices such as e.g. smart-watches or smart phones to read the temperatures of their EUCs. However, I understood that the Sherman Max does not have Bluetooth connectivity or wireless telemetry. If that is true, then how can the Sherman Max rider determine the internal temperature via his telemetry device?
The Sherman has ALWAYS had Bluetooth connectivity, but only for reading some of the telemetry. You can't change it's configuration like you can with the other wheels.
Not necessary. I try and do all these tests (winter or summer) when the temperature is ~25° Celsius so that I get consistent results across different wheels. But sure, if it's 32° then the wheel temps will be greater.
I do that with some of my other tests. This specific hill is way to small to notice anything. When I do my 4500-foot mountain climb then I'll measure the regen on the way down.
@@ElectricUnicycles thank you for your reply. I was fascinated that back in 2014 my AIRWHEEL X8 recuperate twice as good as later the NINEBOT ONE, today after 50K km (currently KS18L) I don't watch anymore
I own a S18 and think it's a fantastic wheel. It doesn't have a lot of range and you have to be careful about over powering it, but otherwise a good choice.
I know that skill plays a big role but would a 5'5" tall and 135 lbs total weight rider be able to go up that hill with the S20? It was mentioned that a much taller and 240 lbs individual has to lean hard to go up that hill with the S20. Besides Chooch, most of the capable S20 riders seen on TH-cam tend to be on the taller and heavier side (more than 5'5" and 135 lbs).
Weight is certainly an advantage for making a wheel move. I think the answer to your question is yes but I have no direct evidence to back up my answer
Man, I can't believe you just drove right at that lady, almost creamed her, and then completely ignored her when she apologized to YOU profusely. Layin that groundwork to get EUC banned, sick brah.
I don't know what you are talking about but I can assure you I have never "almost creamed" anyone. Surely you understand that video compresses distances, etc.
The Sherman Max perhaps has the most surprising results. For the impatient, use the Time Index in the Description to jump to the 5-minute test. If that's still too long then you probably shouldn't be viewing my channel 😃
I don't need time index, i need longer vid! ;) Over heat hill is your Ace for the EUC community!
@@X_iCjay In July I would do the test in the morning or evening. Always strive for ~75-degrees 🙂
Hi Marty thanks for video. What was temperature outside?
@@migors ~75-degrees (24° Celsius)
Marty,
"For the impatient"...ha ha ha!
Finally, we have EUC's that don't burn out on steep hills ... things have come a long way! ... Now we just need batteries that won't catch fire LOL. Its impressive how far things have advanced in such a short time.
The S-20 is really exceptional.
The first time I'm interested in a suspension wheel for myself.
More Max review please. I am getting mine in a month or so.
Yes please
Excellent 👍
S20 at 57deg with no fan, 220lb rider, impressive!
Cheers.
During all the riding with and along side this wheel, it was always running very cool.
So no mistakes from now on..wheels must pass this simple test..
Damn. Came a loooong way with these wheels!!! Before we had to travel up Over Heat at sluggish speed with mother board frying. Now we are shooting up these hills at bicycle speed with no worries. Looking good the future of eucs. (Just gotta produce zero cutout wheels) GREAT JOB MARTY AND EEVEES!!!!
Yep, we've come a long way baby :-)
BTW, a bicyclist would probably not be able to ride up this hill :-)
@@ElectricUnicycles LMAO!!!!!!!!
I'm glad these new suspension wheels are going the route of using a shock instead of using air.
Just bought a Sherman max a week ago, very happy to see that it now can finish overheat hill with no issues !
Can you please share your thoughts on the Sherman max? Especially when compared to the older version of the Sherman?
@@bkw11 Well I bought it, but I'll only receive it mid April. I'll make sure to share my thoughts though :)
Some ppl got their max super fast from distributors that have it in stock such as Eevee’s as I just saw on Facebook this morning, however there are almost no Sherman Max reviews or videos besides quick demos that are being overshadowed by S20 content and hype and the regular speculative nonsense. It’s infuriating because I am interested in getting one.
@@TaiLegend some of the few that have videos of the sherman max are Alexutlang and MIGZ DERULO. Do a youtube search with their names and look at their videos. The comments in their videos they answer a lot of the questions related to the sherman max. I think within the next month we will see a lot more reviews coming out because people will start getting their preorders late March. Ms Crusher youtube channel recently got her sherman max and will do a review shortly as well
Marty you were cruising on the Hero!! The C38 is an amazing torque motor, I can't wait to get my copy of the Master!You guys are so blessed with all the trails! Good stuff!
This video has the best background ^^*
Glad to finally see someone that weighs 220lbs on a wheel. Would be great to see reviews of wheels with a 170lb rider that uses a weighted backpack that then increases total weight to 190, 210, 230, 250, and repeats same course, climbing, acceleration, handling, braking, top speed beeps. Only my opinion, but I think that would be a really solid, well rounded way to review these wheels.
Really good suggestions. Unfortunately this isn't a money making endeavor and doing a bunch of tests like you suggest would be like a job that doesn't pay anything LOL.
@@ElectricUnicycles I understand. Thanks for all you do and have done to help so many people. Great work!
@@ElectricUnicycles
True, but words are free and it's worth a shot to ask. Maybe a fanatic would take the bait?
Sounds fun, doesn't it? Eh?
good video. i really like the drone video embedded in the main. good job
Thanks Ray! 👍
same
🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷👏🏻, This ride is so important to decide whether your wheel will overheat or not!
That seamed pretty effortless for all of them!
Overheat was the thing stopping me from getting a Commander right away, but wow that cool running Sherman Max has my interest piqued. S20 needing some extra lean to make it up the hill is consistent with power delivery impressions over the S20 demos so far. Great footage and video!!
I love the drone view
RAD. Nice to have a DRY run compared to San Fran. Nice to see you all made it.. But it's good "reality" footage when you don't too. ;) Thanks for sharing. Love the "Eh Team"
Happy to see 3 great new products
Again a great ride with some awesome views. I am glad most of the new wheels dont have a problem going up this hill. It means there are improvements. Hope the HERO is running quieter after giving the suspension some oil. I thought it might have been the body plastics rattling like that.
Super sick drone footage at the same time as the ride, that’s a great addition to these videos, I wold love to use one of those for some vids!
Thanks
The result of Max is interesting because it barely has enough room for air intake and no cooling box. Can't wait to see how the 60 mph wheels perform on the overheat hill, starting with Master!
Drone pix extremely cool ...
That lady at 2:38 must have been really zoned out lol
I know. I've seen this on sidewalks too but usually they have a phone LOL
@@ElectricUnicycles I went back and watched it a couple of times to try to figure out what she was zoned out on. Not a phone. Not a book. Just the dirt... Apparently lol
@@HSterlingCross Yeah i was pretty surprised to see that also.
You need to find a steeper hill now, Marty!
Thanks Marty for testing S20 and Max and glad to see Sherman Max making Overheat Hill this time!!! Recently sold S18 and Sherman being replace by Max and S20. Jason eWheel should have Max pretty soon!
All of these are great wheels. Good times to be riding right now.
Thank you for this ✊🏼💥
Way to go😎. Ride safe🙏
Shout out to you Marty. Pretty soon electric unicycle wheel engineers are going to use that as a test ground. Love your videos dude. Shout out to Sensei Vegan DUF and everyone that knows these good people!! ✌️✌️✌️✌️✌️
Thanks :-)
Remember when overheat hill took longer than 2 minutes? I went to write an email while listening and it was over before I finished
Wheels are getting better and better. In the future I'm going to start using the extended version of Overheat Hill.
awesome video my g
17:15 I notice the same thing with my S20. The power is in there, but you really need to lean into the wheel to get it out.
My MSP HT was the same way -- with out pads I could not climb much, with pads is was like a mountain goat. Seeing as the S20 has pads, hmmm🤔
@@patrickmckowen2999 Even without pads it doesn't take a terrible amount of convincing to get an MSP to go. Without pads the s20 would be downright hard work lol.
@@GingerOnWheels for the most part yes, my problem was on some steep switch backs I have near me. Before pads I was on my front balls of feet losing all my balance and lm 200. Pads added and Bobs your uncle, had to make sure I slowed down going up into the turns🤣.
@@patrickmckowen2999 oh yeah, now I know what you mean. Standing on your tippy toes on tricky offroad stuff feels kind of like ballerina dancing, not a fan of that either. 🕺
Cool Runnings!
👍Great skills with the media production,🎬
BTW 🤔 What model drone, and how many batteries used for this ride? AND thx for all the work putting these productions together🎥
Thanks :-)
I fly the DJI Mini 2 with the Litchi ($25) app. I used one battery per drone shot (a lot of hovering while preparing for each run).
@@ElectricUnicycles so that explains the precise ai object tracking performance 👍 Looked as good as a human operator, (maybe even better) needless to say it still requires most excellent MULTITASKING abilities from the pilot/EUC rider.
It was intriguing seeing how far back the other riders were when in comparison to your lead position. Especially when the ground level pole camera lost sight of them. It's a great time to be alive during this age of all the different technologies and their ongoing advancements. Thanks for precisely testing, documenting, and organising these experimental adventure rides🎓🗽🎯
Thanks :-)
@electricUnicycles Which EUC was making all those "clicking/grinding" sounds? Was it just the Hero, or all three of them? I feel like that would be a dealbreaker to listen to whenever you are riding it. Does it sound better in person than on video, with a helmet on?
Edit: For anyone else who doesn't want to watch a 20 minute video again for this answer: Just the Begode Hero. The note that "most" of the noise went away after he oiled the shocks is the most detail the video appears to have.
It's explained in the video, multiple places.
Very good^
AWESOME .... LOL " i aint gonna lift a finger" if a wheel breaks.... LOL
Great video
Is the Hero high speed or high torque? Great video.
Hi torque. Thanks.
Nice, Sherman has always been the coolest wheel :) Nobody on YT talks about Sherman Max pedal dip yet. Is it fixed, better or the same?
I have no insight into the pedal
My understanding is that the v3 sherman already solved this issue. The MAX is just a sherman with 400wh more battery and a torquier motor.
@@TheThunderwars The Max is also a high-torque version of the Sherman, which is noticeable.
@@ElectricUnicycles Does it lack top speed compared to the original or is it free torque with the same speed ? It seems to beep from 70 km/h...
@@TheThunderwars I can't say definitively since I don't have a Max but all high-torque versions of wheels have a specially constructed motor that provides the torque. I've never heard of a high-torque AND high-speed EUC.
Hey the only thing I think you should add to this video is the fact that the test had a massive variable and that’s the weight of the rider, your probably what 160-170 lbs? And the cat on the eagle was what 220-240??. That’s a 60lb+ difference and I 100% think the eagle would beat the other two wheels if you rode both in same conditions.. but not a big deal
Another crazy thought..if the weight of all you riders was different by 1-10 bs at least, the temp would be slightly different and then you guys wouldn’t have come in at the exact same… think about the odds of that happening… it’s essentially a miracle/stroke of luck… I think your ride was blessed I just gotta say, that’s blowing my mind how hard that would be to replicate that scenario randomly …
Anyways great video! Shi shi
Thanks for the comment.
Yeah, this isn't a super-scientific test but it's not too bad considering my budget :-)
FYI, my riding weight that day was ~185-pounds
@@ElectricUnicycles and what was he 120 or did he say 140?
Ok full gear 185 makes sense
@@ElectricUnicycles I mean did he say 220- or 240 lol I wonder what the difference in range 60 lbs would give you on a wheel… 20-30% less/more?
Lukas, the S20 rider, said he was ~220-pounds with all of his gear.
@@ElectricUnicycles with that weight doing overheat hill is awesome news if your any lighter, which I am. All the wheels did pretty good though, I hope all the new wheels have the heat sinks and air flow needed to stay cool, things like that should be #1 in creation, that’s why I’m sticking with king song , that and suspension rock on mtns and massive jumps
I tried a hill test with a king song ks18 and the control board overheated got damaged and then a face plan, this was a few years ago
Did you hear and feel the Hero rattling? Do you know where the rattling was coming from, suspect the suspension? And looks like you need a bigger, steeper over heat hill. These wheels look great. Great job!
The rattling is explained in the text overlay in the video
I heard the rattling too - must be the suspension or some moving part in the wheel.
@@reedreamer9518 As I said in the video, the rattling is from the suspension components and after applying suspension oil it has mostly gone away.
Hello, I want to buy the S20 in Brazil, but I have a question: Is it possible to exceed the maximum speed of 70km/h? I know it's dangerous, but if I want to take this risk, by downloading the Euc Word app, can I activate and release it so that I can exceed the maximum speed of 70km/h? If I don't use any app, can I originally exceed the maximum speed?
You don't need any app to disable all speed limits. You do that from the LCD panel display. You should be able to go faster than 70km/h.
Thanks Marty, Im a little concerned about the constant creaking sound from the Hero, this would drive me crazy..
Did you notice the text overlays where I said after I oiled the moving parts it went away?
@@ElectricUnicycles yes, sorry, unfortunately I wrote my comment before that appeared. Glad you like the Hero Marty.
I have a Hero C38 and love it, powerful wheel and so smooth! My suspension hasn't ever creaked from the factory, good to know I may just need to lube it up if it does.
The riders appeared to be using hand-held wireless telemetry devices such as e.g. smart-watches or smart phones to read the temperatures of their EUCs. However, I understood that the Sherman Max does not have Bluetooth connectivity or wireless telemetry. If that is true, then how can the Sherman Max rider determine the internal temperature via his telemetry device?
The Sherman has ALWAYS had Bluetooth connectivity, but only for reading some of the telemetry. You can't change it's configuration like you can with the other wheels.
@@ElectricUnicycles
Thanks, I did not know that.
Classic GTA 5 NPC at 2:38 😁
Is the Hero making popcorn the entire trip? Constant popping/rattling sound over the bumps.
Just saw the notations of oiling the shock. Kind of surprising in the modern day with everything being sealed and pre-oiled.
I don't think it's the shock but all the linkage joints. Apparently KingSong also recommends that suspension oil be used on their suspension.
It's February, 24'C, so presumably, it is also a huge factor, summer heat would add another 5 to 10 degrees, correct?
Not necessary. I try and do all these tests (winter or summer) when the temperature is ~25° Celsius so that I get consistent results across different wheels. But sure, if it's 32° then the wheel temps will be greater.
sees like the S20 is the superior build. Do you know the incline of overheat hill?
Not really. The incline varies quite a bit
Would be interesting if you measure the energy recovery riding it down
I do that with some of my other tests. This specific hill is way to small to notice anything. When I do my 4500-foot mountain climb then I'll measure the regen on the way down.
@@ElectricUnicycles thank you for your reply. I was fascinated that back in 2014 my AIRWHEEL X8 recuperate twice as good as later the NINEBOT ONE, today after 50K km (currently KS18L) I don't watch anymore
Packed the wheels with ice???
Marty, really wonder what wheel have more power the new sherman max or the commander?
I suspect that they are very close in power
15:38 Disqualification. In what was supposed to be in electric-only test, evidence of a clear gas assist.
LOL
It happens alot more on none suspension wheels🤣
Someone offered me a s18 for my 2nd one wheel that’s all decked out. Any opinions on the s18 here? Never rode a euc
I own a S18 and think it's a fantastic wheel. It doesn't have a lot of range and you have to be careful about over powering it, but otherwise a good choice.
S20 or hero?
Sounds like your spring is gone
that plastic rattle on the hero is an absolute deal breaker sounds like the cheapest thing in the world
You get used to it and can't hear it much while riding. The Hero is still probably the best built EUC yet made.
I know that skill plays a big role but would a 5'5" tall and 135 lbs total weight rider be able to go up that hill with the S20? It was mentioned that a much taller and 240 lbs individual has to lean hard to go up that hill with the S20. Besides Chooch, most of the capable S20 riders seen on TH-cam tend to be on the taller and heavier side (more than 5'5" and 135 lbs).
Weight is certainly an advantage for making a wheel move. I think the answer to your question is yes but I have no direct evidence to back up my answer
What's that rattling?
It's discussed in the video
What are the sounds at >= 7:06 ?
As explained in the text on the screen (2 places), that is noise from the suspension which has since gone away after I oiled the shock.
@@ElectricUnicycles lol... tell me you just skipped to the end without TELLING me you skipped to the end...
Great content as always Marty
LOL
Any new wheel will be fine with overheat hill it seems... 👆👆
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Man, I can't believe you just drove right at that lady, almost creamed her, and then completely ignored her when she apologized to YOU profusely. Layin that groundwork to get EUC banned, sick brah.
I don't know what you are talking about but I can assure you I have never "almost creamed" anyone. Surely you understand that video compresses distances, etc.
Anyone's tl:dr will help a bit.
There's a time index. If people can't read that then they are a lost cause
@@ElectricUnicycles just saw the time index thank you.