The great Federer-Nadal rivalry, sure....more like the big Fedal bromance. :) They have a genuine friendship and it's a beautiful thing. Just watch the Laver cups.
Why do people keep pestering them about retirement and the end of an era or something. They're here, they're legends, plus they made up half of our childhood watching late night wimbledon finals, so what? respect them, appreciate them and their rivalry while we still can.
This may sound weird, but I cannot wait until they both retire. Only because I cannot wait until a producer takes the time to review this grand rivalry, in detail, from beginning to end, and we can all just take it in. It's tough to truly appreciate it now because it's ongoing and we're all still in the moment. Just like how Chris and Martina's rivalry was reviewed after their respective retirements. There just so many nuances to the relationship that we don't see today, that hopefuly we'll be able to see, post retirement. In many way, this rivalry reminds me of Chris and Martina. I think a big part of Martina's dominance over Chris, beginning in 1983, was the intimidation factor. Yes, Martina had built a phenomenal game, but there were few matches where she just blew Chris out of the water. And in those 3-set matches, Martina had a mental edge over Chris because of the intimidation factor (and Martina's confidence). Much the same with Roger and Rafa. Without question, I think Rafa intimidates Roger. It's not a matter of skill or ability. It's all mental for Roger, and Rafa is supremely confident oncourt, and that's what has made the difference the past few years...well, outside of the clay surface, too.
Probably the two best ever, and you'll never get everyone to agree of GOAT. Certainly Fed-Djoker and Rafa-Djoker are more competitive rivalries. Certainly, also, Fed's 17 Slams are unrivaled. The H2H is lopsided to be sure; and although many point to Rafa's dominance on clay as skewering this, I don't think that's really true. Rafa also leads 9-6 on hard court, including 3-0 in Slams. That's pretty definitive
Federer is 2-1 on grass and 5-1 on indoor hard courts, including 4-0 in WTF against Nadal. And, Nadal is yet to win a single WTF featuring just the Top-8 players and Federer has been in 10 finals winning 6 of it, while almost winning 2 more. But, you're right -- "You'll never get everyone to agree of GOAT." For that, we will have to step out of statistics and give a thought about who has exerted the most influence on the fans, and fellow and future players alike, and will be leaving a lasting impact on Tennis over the years to come. I personally think the answer is pretty much clear by now. :-)
Well I think the GOAT question is pretty much resolved, now. Federer winning in 5 sets, against the best record in 5 setters in history, down 3-1 in the 5th, fencing off break points in the final game, winning an 18th at 35 against arguably the greatest tennis competitor of all times, I mean, that's it. 6'000 people show up just to see RF warm up, no one will ever be as great as him, he's the Michael Jordan of tennis, one of the greatest sportsmen !
Al -- it's hardly resolved till Rafa & Djoker are finished, though it is advantage Fed at this time. And getting away from stats is the worst thing to do: it makes this somewhat pseudo-argument even more subjective, it becomes more of a 'most popular player' poll. People don't even understand how complicated the stats are -- Slams, elite titles, H2H, weeks & year-end no.1, peak ELOs , etc.
It's just amazing that two of the best players in tennis history can get along so well with each other, I mean I have never seen any of them swearing a word on the other ever. I think it's quite remarkable and a lot of athletes should behave the same way.
As much as I've always wanted to hate nadal for the many losses he has handed roger over the years in important matches It really is impossible not to like him such a genuine nice guy, so glad these two get along so well it's nice to see. Yes people will say its boring and prefer to see animosity btween each one another but I think these guys don't need that they just play such special tennis against each other. I really this isn't the end of their amazing rivalry
I think what is so special about this rivalry is not about the h2h or the quality of tennis (especially now both are in decline). It is more of a style matchup that enchant people. It reminds people of a time when these two were at the height of their careers, one dominant on clay and one grass. Also relevant is the 2008 Wimbledon final that is the epitome of tennis as the backdrop whenever they play each other. Fedal tugs at the heartstrings unlike Djoko-Fed or Nadal-Djoko does.
And King Roger is back! I was so shocked that Rafa was out of Wimbly so fast, but hopefully that was just a fluke. Seeing Roger lifting that beautiful golden trophy was amazing! I just want to see more Rafa/Roger for the next couple of years...
What makes this rivalry truly incredible aside from how different they are is that each one has a winning record on 2 of the 4 surfaces and on 1 of those surfaces each one has owned the other. On Grass Roger has a 2-1 winning record, but on outdoor hardcourt you'd probably be surprised that Rafa has a 6-2 winning record! Then on Clay Rafa has a 12-2 record, but interestingly enough on Indoor hardcourt Roger has a 4-0 record! Just adds to the rivalrys greatness!
Its not Roger's fault, that Rafa didn't get to finals and semis on other surfaces then clay that as roger did on clay. A Major part of their matches until now was held on clay - and that is Rafa's surface. He has Roger 14-2 there if I am not wrong (don't wanna look it up now). If you take their matches on other surfaces you see Roger having a slight 8-6 advantage there. YOU don't call it rivalry, serious people and tennis lovers OF COURSE call it that way.
Why does everyone feel the need to trash the other player. These two are fantastic, and have done soooo much to revive tennis. Appreciate it! They can show respect to one another, learn from it.
I agree completely! I am a Rafa fan, but I love Roger too, it's so odd that so many of their fans are so defensive and ofensive with them and each other. Stupid, if you ask me, because liking a sportsman is all personal preference, cannot be discussed! Cheers! :)
it is very clear that rafa and roger are very good friends. but whenever they play together the match seems to go a long way. rafa is a my favourite player but i always want federer to win. his style and elegance are just fabulous
roter13 Well you know don't know , they are always great matches, and must of them Roger has been old, still is the Barca Madrid of the tenis, and even when someone comes playing better than the other, you never know who will win.
Oribe Peralta What in 2004 Roger Federer was 22 when 17 year old Nadal defeated him twice Rafael Nadal defeated him in the finals of Roland Garos when Federer was 24 25 26 in Wimbledon when Federer was 26 in 2009 when federer was 28 i am saying GS there record is 23-10 i am fan of Raonic but you have to admit Rafa owns Roger in this
I admit Rafa owns Roger in the mental part, Roger is very bad on that side, the matches they've played, have been all very balanced for both, but Roger wasn't defeated at the 22 by Rafa in an important match, but still Rafa had his prime years in a very early part of hi career and Roger started to become irregular at the age of 26, i still think they are aliens, they are both awesome tenis players, but Roger is a much more complete and a better tenis player than Rafa or any other, even Rafa admits it, but the mental part has made Roger weak in a lot of matches, and that is a part in which Rafa is strong, and Nole is the strongest, so that is why both win Federer in some of the matches.
I have a lot of respect for both players. I'm a massive Rafa fan...but in this year's Wimbledon I was overjoyed when Roger beat Djokovic and I'm hoping 100% Roger takes out Murray in the final. Of course when Rafa and Roger are playing I want Rafa to win. But if Rafa can't win, I'd much rather Roger win than Djokovic or Murray.
nadal may have a better H2H record againt federer. Federer has like 300+ weeks being nr1. So Federer is more consistent than Nadal right? GS titles federer is still the lead, Nadal has around 14 orso, but dont forget he's is getting really old now.. He missed US open 2014 too, lost in wimbledon in the early rounds, so I dont think Nadal can performe at his best now and the nearest future. Talking about the masters, it's quite logic that nadal has more titles. 3 masters are on gravel, Nadal's favourite court, while non are on grass, Federer's favourite court. It's stunning that Federer can even keep up. If there were 3 grass masters, I have no doubt federer would have alot more than.
I like both Nadal and Federer. I prefer watching Roger play, because I think he is more complete. He's got every shot, great variation and excellent volleying technique. They are both great for the game, with such different styles. However, Federer has a more complete resume than Nadal. Federer also has more Word Tour Finals titles, which are also important in world number one's history.
+Marcelo Pinto Well, Federer was top for so long cause he was up against mickey mouse players like roddick, safin and nalbandian for much of his peak. Also nadal has an olympic gold
@raoulhery Sorry for my english but I think this is not the subject here =) ... But I think too that as if Novak has made en incredible season, the rivalry between Nadal and Federer would never be forgotten due to her huge intensity.
Likewise,only difference is i cheer Federer and Rafa in their every match but when they go head to head i say let the best man win,even tho i want Rafa to win and even when he does i cant help but feel a lil hurt that Federer couldnt add more to his mammoth,illustrious and amazing GrandSlam Title Hauls. As for Djokovic i think Federer still has a much stronger game to his and could nail him more often than not but when it comes to Djokovic & Rafa it goes all the way down to the wire.
Murray wins with Federer only because his physic is younger and he has powerful shots. But the Federer-Murray confrontation doens't exist: Murray is a Federer's toe! Federer is fucking awesome Genius, when Murray'll do what Federer did we can talk about it, but I don't think so. Federer has more class, more talent...more all!
McEnroe has an elevated opinion of himself in regards to just WHO are the greatest in history, sorry but 7 grand slams just dont cut the mustard compared to Federer or even Nadal (10)
So ironic that Fed and Rafa like each other a lot, but it seems as though their fans hate each other. Really stupid if you ask me. I mean Fed is my favorite player, but I love Rafa too....I cheer for Rafa no matter the opponent, except when he is playing against Fed
They get along well off court because they're both humble although they express it differently. Love them both.
The great Federer-Nadal rivalry, sure....more like the big Fedal bromance. :) They have a genuine friendship and it's a beautiful thing. Just watch the Laver cups.
Why do people keep pestering them about retirement and the end of an era or something. They're here, they're legends, plus they made up half of our childhood watching late night wimbledon finals, so what? respect them, appreciate them and their rivalry while we still can.
Being able to witness the rivalry of this 2 living legends, is just a blessing!!
as a Nadal fan i don't hate djokovic, i just find him very hard to support. Even though i cant deny he is a brilliant player.
Love them so much!They both so talent and so humble!Best tennis Rivalry ever
2 greatest ambassadors of tennis, who show amazing sportsmanship and share a great relationship.
This may sound weird, but I cannot wait until they both retire. Only because I cannot wait until a producer takes the time to review this grand rivalry, in detail, from beginning to end, and we can all just take it in. It's tough to truly appreciate it now because it's ongoing and we're all still in the moment. Just like how Chris and Martina's rivalry was reviewed after their respective retirements. There just so many nuances to the relationship that we don't see today, that hopefuly we'll be able to see, post retirement. In many way, this rivalry reminds me of Chris and Martina. I think a big part of Martina's dominance over Chris, beginning in 1983, was the intimidation factor. Yes, Martina had built a phenomenal game, but there were few matches where she just blew Chris out of the water. And in those 3-set matches, Martina had a mental edge over Chris because of the intimidation factor (and Martina's confidence). Much the same with Roger and Rafa. Without question, I think Rafa intimidates Roger. It's not a matter of skill or ability. It's all mental for Roger, and Rafa is supremely confident oncourt, and that's what has made the difference the past few years...well, outside of the clay surface, too.
Ohh helloo..its 2018 now..how about now..
Aman, same opinion applies til their legendary retirement.
Aman it's still 23-15 tho so nothing really changed
I don't want to see them retire just yet, I want to see them live. Love both of them with all my heart
Probably the two best ever, and you'll never get everyone to agree of GOAT. Certainly Fed-Djoker and Rafa-Djoker are more competitive rivalries. Certainly, also, Fed's 17 Slams are unrivaled. The H2H is lopsided to be sure; and although many point to Rafa's dominance on clay as skewering this, I don't think that's really true. Rafa also leads 9-6 on hard court, including 3-0 in Slams. That's pretty definitive
Federer is 2-1 on grass and 5-1 on indoor hard courts, including 4-0 in WTF against Nadal. And, Nadal is yet to win a single WTF featuring just the Top-8 players and Federer has been in 10 finals winning 6 of it, while almost winning 2 more. But, you're right -- "You'll never get everyone to agree of GOAT." For that, we will have to step out of statistics and give a thought about who has exerted the most influence on the fans, and fellow and future players alike, and will be leaving a lasting impact on Tennis over the years to come. I personally think the answer is pretty much clear by now. :-)
Well I think the GOAT question is pretty much resolved, now. Federer winning in 5 sets, against the best record in 5 setters in history, down 3-1 in the 5th, fencing off break points in the final game, winning an 18th at 35 against arguably the greatest tennis competitor of all times, I mean, that's it. 6'000 people show up just to see RF warm up, no one will ever be as great as him, he's the Michael Jordan of tennis, one of the greatest sportsmen !
Al -- it's hardly resolved till Rafa & Djoker are finished, though it is advantage Fed at this time. And getting away from stats is the worst thing to do: it makes this somewhat pseudo-argument even more subjective, it becomes more of a 'most popular player' poll. People don't even understand how complicated the stats are -- Slams, elite titles, H2H, weeks & year-end no.1, peak ELOs , etc.
And every other major sport becomes more and more sophisticated in their use of stats. For tennis not to do likewise would be a major retrogression
+Gregoryt700 I don't think Rafa will ever surpass Roger's 18th slams, but Joker still has a shot, I guess, at least to level Rafa's 14th.
It's just amazing that two of the best players in tennis history can get along so well with each other, I mean I have never seen any of them swearing a word on the other ever. I think it's quite remarkable and a lot of athletes should behave the same way.
Its maybe the most friendly rivalry in sports histoy.
UNDOUBTEDLY.
lol I don't hate Roger's fans, I like him too. I prefer Rafa but I admire Roger's playing style. However I don't like Nole lol
I love Nadal so much !
Martin Olle really? you had to say that?
ulizinho thank you
Benfo lol I do root for Serena. She's the best.
As much as I've always wanted to hate nadal for the many losses he has handed roger over the years in important matches It really is impossible not to like him such a genuine nice guy, so glad these two get along so well it's nice to see. Yes people will say its boring and prefer to see animosity btween each one another but I think these guys don't need that they just play such special tennis against each other. I really this isn't the end of their amazing rivalry
These two are the greatest tennis players of all time.
I think what is so special about this rivalry is not about the h2h or the quality of tennis (especially now both are in decline). It is more of a style matchup that enchant people. It reminds people of a time when these two were at the height of their careers, one dominant on clay and one grass. Also relevant is the 2008 Wimbledon final that is the epitome of tennis as the backdrop whenever they play each other. Fedal tugs at the heartstrings unlike Djoko-Fed or Nadal-Djoko does.
couldn't agree more. It's the nostalgia feeling, the feeling of belonging, cause we grew up with them and they sort of grew up with each other too
God knows how we are going to cope when they retire!
Ohh helloo..its 2018 now.
Nadal and Federer can be friends. That's the difference Messi and Cristiano
UNDOUBTEDLY.
And King Roger is back! I was so shocked that Rafa was out of Wimbly so fast, but hopefully that was just a fluke. Seeing Roger lifting that beautiful golden trophy was amazing! I just want to see more Rafa/Roger for the next couple of years...
Ohh helloo..how about now
Love how Roger sounded when he said, 'yeah,' LOL and the way Rafa smiled and fidgeted. Good sports and good human beings all around.
What makes this rivalry truly incredible aside from how different they are is that each one has a winning record on 2 of the 4 surfaces and on 1 of those surfaces each one has owned the other. On Grass Roger has a 2-1 winning record, but on outdoor hardcourt you'd probably be surprised that Rafa has a 6-2 winning record! Then on Clay Rafa has a 12-2 record, but interestingly enough on Indoor hardcourt Roger has a 4-0 record! Just adds to the rivalrys greatness!
Its not Roger's fault, that Rafa didn't get to finals and semis on other surfaces then clay that as roger did on clay. A Major part of their matches until now was held on clay - and that is Rafa's surface. He has Roger 14-2 there if I am not wrong (don't wanna look it up now). If you take their matches on other surfaces you see Roger having a slight 8-6 advantage there. YOU don't call it rivalry, serious people and tennis lovers OF COURSE call it that way.
Hahaha you are so right, Its the same thing with me... But I would cheer for Rafa when playing against Fed! :D
IM PROUD THIS WAS UPLOADED ON MY BIRTHDAY :)
Nadal, Federer >>>> Puxxy Djokovic.
How about some respect..
ty for this video!
Why does everyone feel the need to trash the other player. These two are fantastic, and have done soooo much to revive tennis. Appreciate it! They can show respect to one another, learn from it.
i like the background music ...nice
The thing is that only one of them can be the GOAT.
Love both of them so much
I agree completely! I am a Rafa fan, but I love Roger too, it's so odd that so many of their fans are so defensive and ofensive with them and each other. Stupid, if you ask me, because liking a sportsman is all personal preference, cannot be discussed! Cheers! :)
it is very clear that rafa and roger are very good friends. but whenever they play together the match seems to go a long way. rafa is a my favourite player but i always want federer to win. his style and elegance are just fabulous
not much of a rivalry if you always know who's gonna win
roter13 Well you know don't know , they are always great matches, and must of them Roger has been old, still is the Barca Madrid of the tenis, and even when someone comes playing better than the other, you never know who will win.
Oribe Peralta What in 2004 Roger Federer was 22 when 17 year old Nadal defeated him twice Rafael Nadal defeated him in the finals of Roland Garos when Federer was 24 25 26 in Wimbledon when Federer was 26 in 2009 when federer was 28 i am saying GS there record is 23-10 i am fan of Raonic but you have to admit Rafa owns Roger in this
I admit Rafa owns Roger in the mental part, Roger is very bad on that side, the matches they've played, have been all very balanced for both, but Roger wasn't defeated at the 22 by Rafa in an important match, but still Rafa had his prime years in a very early part of hi career and Roger started to become irregular at the age of 26, i still think they are aliens, they are both awesome tenis players, but Roger is a much more complete and a better tenis player than Rafa or any other, even Rafa admits it, but the mental part has made Roger weak in a lot of matches, and that is a part in which Rafa is strong, and Nole is the strongest, so that is why both win Federer in some of the matches.
roter13 True, Federer has won the last 5 in a row and now has 20 slams. In 3 years Nadal has only lost ground to Federer, who is the world number 1.
Help me please with the NAME OF A SOUND in the first half of this beautiful video
not every rafa fans hate roger i love roger too but i love rafa more than anyone in tennis world
they did an exhibition for nike in Oregon so the sponsors gave them special University of Oregon football (American) jerseys :)
I have a lot of respect for both players.
I'm a massive Rafa fan...but in this year's Wimbledon I was overjoyed when Roger beat Djokovic and I'm hoping 100% Roger takes out Murray in the final. Of course when Rafa and Roger are playing I want Rafa to win. But if Rafa can't win, I'd much rather Roger win than Djokovic or Murray.
it always seems like Federer tries not to laugh whenever Nadal talks..
How cool they are together :)))
classy and amazing, love them both :)
yeah, i don't hate him either. hard to like is more accurate. the only player i ever hated is serena williams.
nadal may have a better H2H record againt federer. Federer has like 300+ weeks being nr1. So Federer is more consistent than Nadal right? GS titles federer is still the lead, Nadal has around 14 orso, but dont forget he's is getting really old now.. He missed US open 2014 too, lost in wimbledon in the early rounds, so I dont think Nadal can performe at his best now and the nearest future. Talking about the masters, it's quite logic that nadal has more titles. 3 masters are on gravel, Nadal's favourite court, while non are on grass, Federer's favourite court. It's stunning that Federer can even keep up. If there were 3 grass masters, I have no doubt federer would have alot more than.
I like both Nadal and Federer. I prefer watching Roger play, because I think he is more complete. He's got every shot, great variation and excellent volleying technique. They are both great for the game, with such different styles. However, Federer has a more complete resume than Nadal. Federer also has more Word Tour Finals titles, which are also important in world number one's history.
+Marcelo Pinto Well, Federer was top for so long cause he was up against mickey mouse players like roddick, safin and nalbandian for much of his peak. Also nadal has an olympic gold
Nadal is back.
LMAO..panashe keep crying bitch
Who was no 2 at this time? Djokovic?
Djoker is no. 1 since 2011
Federer and nadal are, arguably, very similar in talent! So be like them and just enjoy the finals they are in, even if i do want Federer to win :)
@raoulhery Sorry for my english but I think this is not the subject here =) ... But I think too that as if Novak has made en incredible season, the rivalry between Nadal and Federer would never be forgotten due to her huge intensity.
Likewise,only difference is i cheer Federer and Rafa in their every match but when they go head to head i say let the best man win,even tho i want Rafa to win and even when he does i cant help but feel a lil hurt that Federer couldnt add more to his mammoth,illustrious and amazing GrandSlam Title Hauls.
As for Djokovic i think Federer still has a much stronger game to his and could nail him more often than not but when it comes to Djokovic & Rafa it goes all the way down to the wire.
Great Legends
I think that way too, but there's a corollary: in GS I'd like to see Nadal losing more often... He's a bit too close to 17 Slams, haha
Look at these two...rivalry, yet chivalry...common amongst good men...
I'm a Fedal fan...WANT THEM BACK PLAYING A GRAND SLAM FINAL!
Your wish has been granted :)
true :) andre Agassi won his 8th and final grand slam when he was 33 ...so rafa can do it if he will be injured less
Federer and Nadal,the Best
Gimelstob is freaking tall. Fed is 6'1 and Rafa is 6'0 and he's towering over them.
@hqthang87 thanks happy birthday to our greatest rivalry indeed :)
2 of the best!
Bouth awsome player and Djcovik is one bad ass player too :)
Why did they have to humiliate them by making them put on Oregon Ducks jerseys?
who was number 2 at this time
Murray wins with Federer only because his physic is younger and he has powerful shots. But the Federer-Murray confrontation doens't exist: Murray is a Federer's toe! Federer is fucking awesome Genius, when Murray'll do what Federer did we can talk about it, but I don't think so. Federer has more class, more talent...more all!
McEnroe has an elevated opinion of himself in regards to just WHO are the greatest in history, sorry but 7 grand slams just dont cut the mustard compared to Federer or even Nadal (10)
Roger Forever! he's the legend.
Ikr! He'll probably win like 5 more french opens.
I suppose, it´s not difficult, for 2 gentleman, to be friend´s, as well as rivals.
@QJohnny12 happy BD , cheer up :D
Agree with you
@QJohnny12 Happy birthday to you and happy to our greatest rivalry...
classy Roger. love you :)
So ironic that Fed and Rafa like each other a lot, but it seems as though their fans hate each other. Really stupid if you ask me. I mean Fed is my favorite player, but I love Rafa too....I cheer for Rafa no matter the opponent, except when he is playing against Fed
FEDAL FTW
what do Roger and Rafa fans have in common? They both don't like Djokovic.
Nole and Murray have voted :P
0:30 WTF apple logo
Rivarly is past it's peak now...
Homeslice Say again. 20 to 17 slams, and Roger is world number 1 and Nadal is world number 2. And Roger has defeated Nadal 5 times in a row now.
jonny mac wears nike 6.0???!?!?!
what a baus
and then came the "D"Joker, WHY SO SERIOUS ????
djoko is a shittttttt
its gotta be the hair
this is what all tenis fans have in common
Now Novak is the man to beat!
well thanks for making a comment totally out of context. start your own comment.
APPLE At 0:30
@ivanmrkvc7 lol...why so serious
Rafa
number 4 now..... :((
Head to head 17-8 for Nadal,ain't much of a rivalry.That's what hurts Rog the most and that's why he will always be pathetic.
or murray
@MrTahhmatee
why so sad about it. andy murray earned it
#fedal
haha nice one :D !!
RAFA THE BEST
awwww bromance :]
If you don't have any positive to say about a player keep your abnoxious opinion to self.
Rafa :)
Fedal forever!
FEDERER!!!!
They're like a gay couple. Adorable
GO DUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!
How on earth can you dislike Djokovic?
LOL Well deserved "LIKE"... I hate Nole!
DJOKOVIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@ivanmrkvc7 loool
screw rivalry, they'd make the most beautiful gay couple on the planet