Dude I absolutely love your respect for the viewers time, adding the quick video times for the categories at the beginning is stellar! Great vids, I enjoying nearly all of them!! PLEASE keep it up!
2 years ago i watched this video. It was when i didn't have a camera. Its amazing to think how far weve come. I think sometimes we need to look back and realized weve made progress in life. Thanls for all the videos!
Is shallow depth of field/ bokeh really that important for sports action? For me it doesn't matter much as long as I get sharp detailed photos in action. Yes, for static portraits bokeh is very nice to have in shots. But for sports action photography where subject is a bit hard to focus closer in the frame you would want your subject to be sharp in all parts of the body, same with wildlife where you want an eagle to be as sharp from the eyes to the wing tips and the tail.
Would you recommend purchasing this or the Sigma 70-200 2.8 sport lens? I already have the mc11 adapter, and will be shooting mostly portraits and weddings instead of sports. I'm comparing these two lenses due to their similar price rather than consider the Sony 70-200 2.8 at a much higher price.
Hi I'm looking for an adapter for this lens for my a6000 camera are there any good low budget adapters out there i want to use it for my grand daughter track meets. Thanks!
I'm missing the additional tripod lens connector...the new lens weight is 854g...of my FE 70200 is 840g...I think you will damage the camera if you using the camera tripod connector instead of a lens tripod connector. Especially if the FE 70300 will be extended to 300mm....Cheers DrDuu
that1cameraguy If the lens is at 300mm you will have such a emphasis movement, maybe the camera tripod connector will be cover it but I assume it will be very sensitive against wind etc...
I talked with the german Sony Support. They are also surprised and assume a wobbling effect on a tripod...but they told me that all lenses are well tested and the camera lens connection and tripod connector should be save...I'm waiting until we will get pictures with broken camera housings...I assume that an additional lens collar would be forgotten...Cheers DrDuu
solid review. just got rid of the 70-200 FE to get the 70-300 FE, which is a beast at F/4 but after watching this video I agree with you about the DOF and separation. Now I'll just wait the the 2.8 70-200 FE as my final tele phot purchase.
Planning a trip to Africa. For distance I was thinking of using it on my A6300. I’m also going to be purchasing an A7riii in the near future. Is this lens faster on the 6300 or A7Riii? And why please. I’d really like to stay away from the weight of the Sony 100-400!
You are a very nice guy, definitely. When you mentioned the $3500 Sigma 120-300/f2.8 at 8:16, I guess you were just kidding. The Sony 70300 is a $1000 lens, far from a professional mega-thousand dollar sports lens. Still, I think it is comparable to the $2000 Canon 100-400/f5.6L at 300mm, or Sigma/Tamron 150-600/f5-6.3 at 300mm. Another meaningful comparison would be with the SAL70-400/f4-5.6. It is so meaningless to mention F5.6 as a drawback of a f5.6 lens, it's part of its specification. When I need an f4 or f2.8 lens at 300mm, I am looking at lenses with that specs. Anyhow, you are really a very nice person.
Is their a lens to tripod clamp for this lens?, i feel like when my a73 is mounted to a tripod with this lens attached that it could possible damage my camera over time due to its weight. if their isnt a clamp is their something you would recommend that would balance this combination better and take the strain off the camera body?
Hi, thanks for the video!Iam using a sigma EX 70-200 f2.8 (for canon) With a adapter on my 6500. The autofocus dosnt work any good!Do you think the autofocus on the sony 70-300 will work better? I mainly take action Pictures of dogs.
Thanks ;) I'm actually working on my review of this lens now and was not able to do any sports work unfortunately, so I will reference your excellent review for those looking for sports specific information/ performance. Looks to be a great option for sports if the lighting is adequate of course, as you said... Thanks again, Jay
My man, you did state that this is best for the sports shots but what lens would you say is best for portraits (wedding/senior pics, etc.). I'm working with a 6000, 6300, and 6500.
Hi! Thank you for the vid! would like to have your advice, if I am using A7M2, and I'm considering a tele-lens, should i choose SEL70300 or SEL70200g (f4)? I prefer to use for portrait, and to capture during traveling. (plus sports, basketball sometimes) Thank you!
May I have the reason? I have done some research, some of them said 70-300 performs better for corners, and giving sharper images.., if we are not just talking about the diff. between f4 vs f4.5-f.5.6 Thanks again! :)
Hello, I'm thinking of purchasing this lens for my A7 II. I was also considering a similar offering from Sony, that sports a SSM (Super Sonic wave Motor) ? Do you have any idea if this also the fact with the OSS?
+that1cameraguy My experience so far with Sony A6300 Auto focus system. Maybe we can discuss this further. 1) Wide - AF points cover the whole screen and it will prioritize the focusing on the center subject which is near to you. Works well i) when the subject cover most of the screen, ii) when single moving subject with relative clean or isolated background. Don't work well i) when there multiple moving subject ii) foreground and background moving subjects. 2) Zone - 3 x 3 grid AF points moving around the screen which is divided to a 5 x 5 grid. It work similar to Wide. 3) Center - A centre focus square. It appears to be slow and does not seems to be using multiple AF points within it but achieve AF as a single large square. 4) Flexible Spot (L,M,S) - Behave similar to Center but with the ability to adjust the size of the AF square and the position of it across the screen. Use for more precise focusing. The smaller the AF square the faster the AF speed. 5) Expand Flexible Spot - This is a like flexible spot S with 8 AF points surrounding it. Use for precise focusing with 8 assisted AF points to adjust focus for slight movement of subject. 6) Lock-on AF (Wide, Zone, Centre, Flexible Spot, Expand Flexible Spot) - This is the Sony tracking AF function. It basically use the AF Area to acquire the initial focus/subject and track it across the whole screen. Using Wide or Zone, cannot reliably tell the camera what is the initial focus/subject (it is back to the centre, nearer to you or with more contrast). Using Center or Flexible spot, the initial acquisition of focus seems slower especially with focus on one subject then switch to another. Expand Flexible Spot works the best coupled with back button AF-on, the initial acquisition of focus is fast between subjects. I tried using this to shoot netball and find the result quite satisfactory. With LA-EA3, the available Focus Areas are only Wide, Centre and Flexible Spot (L,M,S). Wide behaves as it is with native lens, but strangely Centre and Flexible (L,M,S) uses AF points within the AF square instead and the focus is faster as compared flexible spot with native lens
+dracoid4 Thanks for the summary however I'm always confused which mode to use and when. Obviously I would use Flexible spot when I want precise AF point on a stationary subject. However which mode to use when taking images of moving wildlife such as birds for instance?
great review, thanks! for a fashion show, would you recommend this lens , or would you rather use the 70-200F4 ? (the 70-200F2.8 is not an option for me because of the weight)
Theirs no tripod collar, so it will definitely feel front heavy when extended and may add stress on the mount. I'll do a quick test when I get a chance and update you on my thoughts.
You mentioned that you used a SmallRig cage. Did you use the Y support that SmallRig offers on dual rails? Seems like a good alternative for this lens.
that1cameraguy it will be mostly track. maybe a little jumping and pole vault. BTW I'm still learning photography and this will be my very first sport shoot I'm more of a portrait photographer. The reason for my question is because I do not have so much $$ I can't purchase multiple lenses so l'm trying to get something that will be with me for quite some time.
I've never used the Sony a7. I feel that you'd be better off with an Sony a6000/a6300 if you'd be shooting sports. If the arena is well lit, then the 70-300 is good. If it's dark, you may want to go with the 70-200 F4. I'm not too sure on your entire situation, but honestly, you'd be better off selling the a7 and picking up something like a refurb 70D and grabbing a used Sigma 70-200 F2.8 OS. That's just my recommendation. Sony is just way too expensive to work with. DSLR's just have so many more lens options. They are also much cheaper. Cheaper Option a6000 + Sony 55-210 (If the arena is lit well, this would be an affordable and effective pairing)
that1cameraguy Ok cool beans! I can't say what the future will bring but I am would like to consintrate more on portrait photography. The sport photography I will do is probably as a 2nd stringer to a friend of mine who will ask me to help him from time to time when he doesn't have a "real" sports photographer, haha, but I figured picking up one of these lenses would probably be a good idea as I already have a Batis 85mm. Thank you so much for your advice and your time! BTW loving your photos
I just ordered an A7Sii for private investigation work which obviously often takes place in low-light situations. Would you say this lens would hinder that low-light capabilities of the A7Sii, or could you suggest a better alternative? Thanks, Paul
You will definitely still want a lens with a larger aperture like F2.8 or F4. This lens will affect your low-light ability. If sticking with Sony look at the 70-200 f2.8 g-master, consider a 1.4x extender if you need a bit more reach. You can also consider lenses from canon and using an adapter.
Hmm. I think Dave Dugdale did a review on sharpness. They were similar, although the 70-300 was just a little bit sharper in certain areas, but the differences were minor.
I have not been able to determine whether or not the a6300 SteadShot setting to turn lens SteadyShot on or off should be on or off when using the optical SteadyShot in the lens. I certainly know that they both should be off at shutter speeds less than 1/500 to avoid acuity degradation. Any guidance would be appreciated.
The a6300 has a menu item that turns SteadyShot on and off in the lens. When I want SteadyShot On in my Sony 10-18 f/4 lens which does not have a dedicated switch to turn SteadyShot On or Off, I turn SteadShot On or Off with this camera menu item. When I use a shutter speed over 1/500 second, I turn this menu item Off so that SteadyShot is no longer active in the lens. The Sony 70-300 FE f/4.5-5.6 OSS lens (I get mine tomorrow from B&H) has a switch to select SteadyShot On or Off. My question then is this. If I turn SteadyShot Off in the camera menu item, will SteadyShot be Off in the lens regardless of the position of the SteadyShot switch on the lens? In other words, should I leave the camera menu item On or Off while I am switching Steady shot On or Off with the switch on the lens? I do not understand the interaction between the SteadyShot camera menu and the SteadyShot switch on the lens.
+Jack Markham It's the same. Some lenses like you said don't have a dedicated switch. The menu option is only for lenses that doesn't have that switch button (SEL35, SEL24, etc.). If the lens has the button (SEL70200 or the SEL70300 above), you don't have to use the menu option, use the switch on the lens.
that1cameraguy I'd be shooting with the A6000 and A6500 and it would be of a number of different sports but more times than not I'll be in fairly decent lighting
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't crop mean exactly that, crop? You don't get a longer reach, you only get a cropped image, something you can do in post-processing.
I really think you have made up my mind about getting the Sony 6300 however being in Australia will have to wait three weeks for it...... The price here is 1699 compared to the cheapest on Amazon around 1000
A very good review, but can you give me an option for the sony 70-300 if i want to shoot wild life? I use a A7II, and i thimk i need a little bit more then 300 mm. Cand you give me another option at a resonable price? Thank you :)
+Philip Ypon Having used the Sony Mirrorless system for the past few months, the only real compelling advantage I find with the system is the 4k, high frame rate video, and electronic viewfinder. If I only shot photos, then I would prefer the Canon system over the Sony. Just last night I shot a dance, and my a7rii died on me all of a sudden. It had an OEM battery grip with two OEM batteries, one battery died and for whatever reason, did not jump to the second battery. If it was a paid gig, I would have missed some important stuff. However, that’s a quirk that all systems have and I’ve had my fair share of odd quirks like that with Canon. Their still aspects of the Sony system I don’t like, like the small buffer for raw it has, slow movement of focus points, low light focusing is a mix, and not a lot of lighting options for the system just yet. I really love my Canon 600 EX-Rt’s.
+that1cameraguy Well, i guess you'll appreciate the portability on the a7r ii's as well as their 4k video capabilities. That's a bummer it gave up on you in the middle of the shoots, at least you weren't shooting weddings. However, the auto focusing and battery life on the a7r ii's are the main drawbacks on this camera. Somehow, sony will addressed and fixed these issues on their next a7r ii successor. I totally agree with you on choosing canon for stills over sony, i think canon produce better skin tones than any cameras in my opinion and that is indeed subjective. I've read that canon is about to unveil their new 600 ex-rt mark ii version speed light very soon! Good luck and have fun with your sony system. Great job! and keep the reviews and videos coming! 👍👍👍
+Philip Ypon Thanks, really appreciate it. I will say though, it is a must to have the battery grip on the Sony a7Rii when shooting an event. It was weird when it died on me, but in most cases, having the battery grip was necessary. For what I've been shooting, I haven't had to swap batteries out because of it.
It looks like the SEL70200GM lens will have the Sony Teleconverter 2.0x support which will get you 140-400mm but the trade-off is that your best f-stop is f/5.6... still I'll be very interested to see how it performs on the A7RM2. AFAIK, that same combo will work on the a6300 as well! 210-600mm! :P
Appreciate the review. Really had been hoping for an e-mount 50-300 constant f4. But I know that's a bit idealistic. Not overly, right :-) Could have said f2.8, but then we'd have to expect $$$+. Was strongly considering the the f4 70-200, but having that additional 100mm - you'd say is probably worth it? And, the $ for the f4 70-200 is more than the new 70-300 oss? Feel like Sony is teasing us. Thanks again. Let me know your thoughts. I do need something w: more reach. I do mostly video (some stills too) via a7sii.
A6300 is great so far. Definitely a step up from my NEX-6. Haven't tried the A6000 because I wanted a beefier body and mout. I got the 70-300 and the lens is solid on the A6300, although haven't used it that much.
Hi, can you tell us something about how it works with the A6000, especially in terms of PDAF capabilities and hi ISO management? Are there downsides or issues for this full frame-native lens in terms of Image Quality on the APS-C format cameras (including the A6300) ? Thank You
Massenzio Taborelli have you got the combo you talk about? (a6000 + 70-300mm G) if so, how is it working out for you brother? i'm really considering it for surf photography so any feedback would be great
+GeneralGarvel A7s2 only has CDAF, not PDAF, so its tracking abilities may not be up to those of the a-6000/a-6300 or other 2nd-series A7 bodies (A72, A7r2) that do have PDAF. No direct experience on my part though, just sayin'...
I have been thinking about getting this lens for my a6300 but im worried it will be useless for indoor school gyms for sports, that are poorly lit, since its only f4.5.. Its a expensive lens for me. Is it worth it? I was gonna use it outdoors as well.
What's the point of this lens in comparison to 24-240? Both are large and slow lenses. 5.6 vs 6.3? not much difference. And what's the difference between 240 and 300 in real life zooming to infinity? not much. Out of these twos, 24-240 is actually cheaper and covers more useful range.
I want to see no more focus by wire lenses. At least not as many. Sony targets video makers with cameras like the a7s ii, a6300 and a7r ii but then gives us the worst type of lenses for video. I will just stick with Rokinon for video and Sony for photo. Great review, nice to see some zooms come out. Only if they made it faster.
+skatertwig26 I disagree, the full frame mirrorless sensors aren't aiming mainly at videographers. Sony has FS5 and 7 for videographers. You might need to think of CaNikon if you don't like the focus by wire lenses.... The recently launched GM lenses have focus by wire mechanism. (I bought 24-70GM and that's a great great lens TBH).
Ty I didn't say mainly, I said "Sony targets videographers". Which they do. The slog 3, internal 4k and so on shows it. That by no means, mean they don't largely target photographers too. They are trying to take over both markets. I am not saying that their lenses aren't great because they are. I just wish they would have a line that were not focus by wire. I would not shoot Nikon or Canon. I shoot both photo's and video a bit so I need a camera that does both well. Nikon and Canon fall short for video. I also can not stand using OVF'S. I will continue what I am doing, Rokinon for video, Sony for photo. It is not a big enough issue to switch. It is just something they should think about. Since so many people have the same issue. I really like my Sony. I had the a65, a7 and now the a6300 and each were fantastic. My favorite being the a6300. I am curious to see what the a9 will be.
It's tough to say right now. I think the 70-300 is the better lens. The F4 is alright on the 70-200, but you get a lot more reach out of the 70-300. It really depends on what you shoot. Honestly, once I get the 70-200 G-Master and 1.4x extender. These two lenses will become a little obsolete for me.
Dude I absolutely love your respect for the viewers time, adding the quick video times for the categories at the beginning is stellar! Great vids, I enjoying nearly all of them!! PLEASE keep it up!
2 years ago i watched this video. It was when i didn't have a camera. Its amazing to think how far weve come. I think sometimes we need to look back and realized weve made progress in life. Thanls for all the videos!
How would you compare this with the 70-200 f4? I am looking to purchase one zoom lens for my A7ii
lol almost 3 years later price still the same. Come on sony
now its at 700€ in my country! almost 50% off
Picked one up used with not a scratch on it for $580. No brainer.
@@numerohvh is it worth it in 2021?
@@DragonSkaterrr i have the 70-350
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Is shallow depth of field/ bokeh really that important for sports action? For me it doesn't matter much as long as I get sharp detailed photos in action. Yes, for static portraits bokeh is very nice to have in shots. But for sports action photography where subject is a bit hard to focus closer in the frame you would want your subject to be sharp in all parts of the body, same with wildlife where you want an eagle to be as sharp from the eyes to the wing tips and the tail.
Nice work on this review. Great editing (especially with the 120 fps), and I appreciate your insights on this lens.
+Loloho.Photo Thanks a bunch, much appreciated. Love the work you do on your channel.
So far, I LOVE this lens. I've used it at MLB games with an a6000, and it's great pairing for close-up zoom action pics.
Nice, thanks for sharing.
Would you recommend purchasing this or the Sigma 70-200 2.8 sport lens? I already have the mc11 adapter, and will be shooting mostly portraits and weddings instead of sports. I'm comparing these two lenses due to their similar price rather than consider the Sony 70-200 2.8 at a much higher price.
Thanks, good review- track/field is exactly what I shoot & I’d be using on my A7R4. Would your opinion change using this lens on the R4?
I got this lens at a Best Buy in Ohio on a trip last year and I do not regret it. Excellent photos with both my a73 and a6300.
Smh, lens is not out yet
Been waiting for a review of this lens for a while
+Legman Productions Glad to have put one together for you.
Can you make a new video with testing the lense in low light situations?
Price didn't drop ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Hey Danny, great review! How to record in-camera UI like you did?
The price of the lens literally hadn’t dropped in 4 years, wish you’d been right.
"Hopefully the price will drop..." 5 years later still the same
hows this lens for filming football
Hi I'm looking for an adapter for this lens for my a6000 camera are there any good low budget adapters out there i want to use it for my grand daughter track meets. Thanks!
Hi!
Which is the switch point from 4.5 and 5.6??
I'm missing the additional tripod lens connector...the new lens weight is 854g...of my FE 70200 is 840g...I think you will damage the camera if you using the camera tripod connector instead of a lens tripod connector. Especially if the FE 70300 will be extended to 300mm....Cheers DrDuu
Hmm. Is it suppose to come with one? Mine didn't. That could be a concern. I wonder if Sony designs a tripod collar for this lens.
that1cameraguy If the lens is at 300mm you will have such a emphasis movement, maybe the camera tripod connector will be cover it but I assume it will be very sensitive against wind etc...
I talked with the german Sony Support. They are also surprised and assume a wobbling effect on a tripod...but they told me that all lenses are well tested and the camera lens connection and tripod connector should be save...I'm waiting until we will get pictures with broken camera housings...I assume that an additional lens collar would be forgotten...Cheers DrDuu
I wonder if there is a tripod clamp mount available?
Would you do a review using a non Sony lens? (actually sony own 12% of it). I'm talking about the combo a7rii+Laea3+Tambron amount 70-300 USD. Thanks.
Can I shoot moon with the 70-300mm? If not what solution I have if I get the upcoming A7 III?
you had problems with low light what if I use my a7s ii?
solid review. just got rid of the 70-200 FE to get the 70-300 FE, which is a beast at F/4 but after watching this video I agree with you about the DOF and separation. Now I'll just wait the the 2.8 70-200 FE as my final tele phot purchase.
I still prefer the Sigma 130-300 Sport with the MC-11 Adapter. Just hoping the firmware update will improves it's performances.
Planning a trip to Africa. For distance I was thinking of using it on my A6300. I’m also going to be purchasing an A7riii in the near future. Is this lens faster on the 6300 or A7Riii? And why please. I’d really like to stay away from the weight of the Sony 100-400!
I'm switching from Canon to Sony and currently have the Canon 70-300L how doe this compare to that lense? Is there a better option out there? Thanks!
7:06 can't stop laughing... the orange shirt guy :)
You are a very nice guy, definitely. When you mentioned the $3500 Sigma 120-300/f2.8 at 8:16, I guess you were just kidding. The Sony 70300 is a $1000 lens, far from a professional mega-thousand dollar sports lens. Still, I think it is comparable to the $2000 Canon 100-400/f5.6L at 300mm, or Sigma/Tamron 150-600/f5-6.3 at 300mm. Another meaningful comparison would be with the SAL70-400/f4-5.6. It is so meaningless to mention F5.6 as a drawback of a f5.6 lens, it's part of its specification. When I need an f4 or f2.8 lens at 300mm, I am looking at lenses with that specs. Anyhow, you are really a very nice person.
Is their a lens to tripod clamp for this lens?, i feel like when my a73 is mounted to a tripod with this lens attached that it could possible damage my camera over time due to its weight. if their isnt a clamp is their something you would recommend that would balance this combination better and take the strain off the camera body?
Hi, thanks for the video!Iam using a sigma EX 70-200 f2.8 (for canon) With a adapter on my 6500. The autofocus dosnt work any good!Do you think the autofocus on the sony 70-300 will work better? I mainly take action Pictures of dogs.
Excellent Review! Thanks...
Jay
Thank you. I enjoy your informative videos, been watching them for sometime now.
Thanks ;) I'm actually working on my review of this lens now and was not able to do any sports work unfortunately, so I will reference your excellent review for those looking for sports specific information/ performance. Looks to be a great option for sports if the lighting is adequate of course, as you said... Thanks again,
Jay
Awesome. Thanks so much. Yeah, the lens definitely fits the bill with sporting events with adequate lighting.
My man, you did state that this is best for the sports shots but what lens would you say is best for portraits (wedding/senior pics, etc.).
I'm working with a 6000, 6300, and 6500.
Hi! Nice video review! How about sharpness? Does it compares with FE 70-200mm?
+ngn Thanks! Hmm. I don't' really do that kind of test. I'll see about looking into that.
Hey man! Do you have a tutorial on how to take timelapses with the A6500?
Thanks!
Is this lens fast enough for motorsports?
i wanna buy it in order to do photos and make surfilms during dayligth with sony a7s2? how does the autofocus will work?
Dude..... You killed this!!! Great work man!
+Jaytee1o4 Damn, thanks. I appreciate the comment. It took almost 12 hours to put this thing together.
Hi! Thank you for the vid! would like to have your advice, if I am using A7M2, and I'm considering a tele-lens, should i choose SEL70300 or SEL70200g (f4)?
I prefer to use for portrait, and to capture during traveling. (plus sports, basketball sometimes)
Thank you!
+Duncan Laü 70-200
May I have the reason? I have done some research, some of them said 70-300 performs better for corners, and giving sharper images.., if we are not just talking about the diff. between f4 vs f4.5-f.5.6
Thanks again! :)
Is this a good lens for the a9?
Great review and you're great are reviewing things in general. Best of luck!
Thanks! I appreciate it.
Comparison to the 70-200 f4?
Whats about a comparison with the tamron 18-300...Would be interesting.
+TheGreatGandalf09 Dang. If only I had a copy I wouldn't mind doing it. It might be awhile before I could do something like that.
Hello, I'm thinking of purchasing this lens for my A7 II. I was also considering a similar offering from Sony, that sports a SSM (Super Sonic wave Motor) ? Do you have any idea if this also the fact with the OSS?
Great video! What kinda strap did you use to attach your camera to your shoulder when filming your self?
I had my camera on a monitor shoved into a pocket of my backpack that holds a monopod
+that1cameraguy clever , looked cool
You can try to disable face detection. It should make the focusing more consistent and not to lose focus so easily.
+dracoid4 Thanks. I did try it out for a few scenarios. I still need to use the cameras in more environments to learn the systems better.
+that1cameraguy My experience so far with Sony A6300 Auto focus system. Maybe we can discuss this further.
1) Wide - AF points cover the whole screen and it will prioritize the focusing on the center subject which is near to you. Works well i) when the subject cover most of the screen, ii) when single moving subject with relative clean or isolated background. Don't work well i) when there multiple moving subject ii) foreground and background moving subjects.
2) Zone - 3 x 3 grid AF points moving around the screen which is divided to a 5 x 5 grid. It work similar to Wide.
3) Center - A centre focus square. It appears to be slow and does not seems to be using multiple AF points within it but achieve AF as a single large square.
4) Flexible Spot (L,M,S) - Behave similar to Center but with the ability to adjust the size of the AF square and the position of it across the screen. Use for more precise focusing. The smaller the AF square the faster the AF speed.
5) Expand Flexible Spot - This is a like flexible spot S with 8 AF points surrounding it. Use for precise focusing with 8 assisted AF points to adjust focus for slight movement of subject.
6) Lock-on AF (Wide, Zone, Centre, Flexible Spot, Expand Flexible Spot) - This is the Sony tracking AF function. It basically use the AF Area to acquire the initial focus/subject and track it across the whole screen. Using Wide or Zone, cannot reliably tell the camera what is the initial focus/subject (it is back to the centre, nearer to you or with more contrast). Using Center or Flexible spot, the initial acquisition of focus seems slower especially with focus on one subject then switch to another. Expand Flexible Spot works the best coupled with back button AF-on, the initial acquisition of focus is fast between subjects. I tried using this to shoot netball and find the result quite satisfactory.
With LA-EA3, the available Focus Areas are only Wide, Centre and Flexible Spot (L,M,S). Wide behaves as it is with native lens, but strangely Centre and Flexible (L,M,S) uses AF points within the AF square instead and the focus is faster as compared flexible spot with native lens
+dracoid4 Thanks for the summary however I'm always confused which mode to use and when. Obviously I would use Flexible spot when I want precise AF point on a stationary subject. However which mode to use when taking images of moving wildlife such as birds for instance?
great review, thanks! for a fashion show, would you recommend this lens , or would you rather use the 70-200F4 ? (the 70-200F2.8 is not an option for me because of the weight)
I've never shot a fashion show. If the stage is well lit, I think the 70-200 F4 will be better
thanks for your answer!
What are your thoughts about using it mounted on a tripod with A7 and A6000 bodies?
Theirs no tripod collar, so it will definitely feel front heavy when extended and may add stress on the mount. I'll do a quick test when I get a chance and update you on my thoughts.
+Thomas Feldbauer I just tried it on my a7Rii, it's pretty solid on my ballhead oben tripod. I tried both with and without the battery grip.
that1cameraguy Thanks for this. Did you try this lens on 6300 mounted on a tripod. Is it possible? Thanks.
You mentioned that you used a SmallRig cage. Did you use the Y support that SmallRig offers on dual rails? Seems like a good alternative for this lens.
I am using a Sony a7 and will be doing some indoor sport shooting. Would you recommend me renting this lens or the 70-200 f4?
What type of indoor sport?
that1cameraguy it will be mostly track. maybe a little jumping and pole vault. BTW I'm still learning photography and this will be my very first sport shoot I'm more of a portrait photographer. The reason for my question is because I do not have so much $$ I can't purchase multiple lenses so l'm trying to get something that will be with me for quite some time.
I've never used the Sony a7. I feel that you'd be better off with an Sony a6000/a6300 if you'd be shooting sports. If the arena is well lit, then the 70-300 is good. If it's dark, you may want to go with the 70-200 F4. I'm not too sure on your entire situation, but honestly, you'd be better off selling the a7 and picking up something like a refurb 70D and grabbing a used Sigma 70-200 F2.8 OS. That's just my recommendation. Sony is just way too expensive to work with. DSLR's just have so many more lens options. They are also much cheaper.
Cheaper Option
a6000 + Sony 55-210 (If the arena is lit well, this would be an affordable and effective pairing)
that1cameraguy Ok cool beans! I can't say what the future will bring but I am would like to consintrate more on portrait photography. The sport photography I will do is probably as a 2nd stringer to a friend of mine who will ask me to help him from time to time when he doesn't have a "real" sports photographer, haha, but I figured picking up one of these lenses would probably be a good idea as I already have a Batis 85mm. Thank you so much for your advice and your time! BTW loving your photos
Any new comment on AF (or IQ), connecting to the new A7R3? Thanks
Thank you - a very clear review ... have been considering this lens too.
Hello. Could you tell me if the focus of sony 24 240 is good? Or is 70 300 the better?
Thank you very much
+Valmor Behenck unfortunately, I haven't used they lens
Would this footage have been riddled with rolling shutter and unusable if it'd been shot on an a6300?
The slow motion shots I did were shot on the a6300, but in 1080p 120fps. In 4k, you would definitely notice it.
Thanks man! I love your content so much, combined with your viewer interactivity makes you my favourite camera channel on youtube!
Appreciate the support!
I just ordered an A7Sii for private investigation work which obviously often takes place in low-light situations. Would you say this lens would hinder that low-light capabilities of the A7Sii, or could you suggest a better alternative? Thanks, Paul
You will definitely still want a lens with a larger aperture like F2.8 or F4. This lens will affect your low-light ability. If sticking with Sony look at the 70-200 f2.8 g-master, consider a 1.4x extender if you need a bit more reach. You can also consider lenses from canon and using an adapter.
that1cameraguy thank you
Hey. Nice review. How does IQ compare to that of the 70-200 f4. I mean general sharpness
Hmm. I think Dave Dugdale did a review on sharpness. They were similar, although the 70-300 was just a little bit sharper in certain areas, but the differences were minor.
Thanks. Appreciate the reply
I have the A-mount version and love it!! Hoping this one is as up to par as it's counterpart.
That's nice to know. Thanks for your input.
I have not been able to determine whether or not the a6300 SteadShot setting to turn lens SteadyShot on or off should be on or off when using the optical SteadyShot in the lens. I certainly know that they both should be off at shutter speeds less than 1/500 to avoid acuity degradation. Any guidance would be appreciated.
+Jack Markham a6300 doesn"t have IBIS/SteadyShot.
I know that. LOL out loud. I have one. Camera Set-up: menu 8: SteadyShot: On/Off
+Jack Markham then why ask if steadyshot will be turned off if you turn it off in the menu? :)
The a6300 has a menu item that turns SteadyShot on and off in the lens. When I want SteadyShot On in my Sony 10-18 f/4 lens which does not have a dedicated switch to turn SteadyShot On or Off, I turn SteadShot On or Off with this camera menu item. When I use a shutter speed over 1/500 second, I turn this menu item Off so that SteadyShot is no longer active in the lens. The Sony 70-300 FE f/4.5-5.6 OSS lens (I get mine tomorrow from B&H) has a switch to select SteadyShot On or Off. My question then is this. If I turn SteadyShot Off in the camera menu item, will SteadyShot be Off in the lens regardless of the position of the SteadyShot switch on the lens? In other words, should I leave the camera menu item On or Off while I am switching Steady shot On or Off with the switch on the lens? I do not understand the interaction between the SteadyShot camera menu and the SteadyShot switch on the lens.
+Jack Markham It's the same. Some lenses like you said don't have a dedicated switch. The menu option is only for lenses that doesn't have that switch button (SEL35, SEL24, etc.). If the lens has the button (SEL70200 or the SEL70300 above), you don't have to use the menu option, use the switch on the lens.
Awesome video! Just subscribed!
One question though: would this work well on an a6000? Any potential issues that I should be aware of?
Yes, it will work on the a6000 with no issues.
Bit of a spending spree! Once again, great video and review! One question, what is that (preset) button on the lens for???
+KingCanon It's used as a focus-hold button. When you hold it, it cancels AF. If you let go of the button, the AF starts up again.
+Joe A7Rii yes
If you were going to choose between this and the 70-200 F4 which would you go with for shooting sports?
+Kiywii depends on the sports and whether you have a crop camera or full frame
that1cameraguy I'd be shooting with the A6000 and A6500 and it would be of a number of different sports but more times than not I'll be in fairly decent lighting
Great reviews !
How about : SONY 70-300mm F/4.5-5.6 G SSM II SAL70300G2 Lens.
Did you know if it's better than the first??
Thanks
I wish I could help, I just don't have a copy of that other lens.
excellent review, LIKED, very happy that you utilized Sony a6300 as thats exactly my goal, 1.5x crop factor of APS-C makes this a 450mm lens
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't crop mean exactly that, crop? You don't get a longer reach, you only get a cropped image, something you can do in post-processing.
post-processing crop is digital for sure, but sensor crop should be optical
I really think you have made up my mind about getting the Sony 6300 however being in Australia will have to wait three weeks for it...... The price here is 1699 compared to the cheapest on Amazon around 1000
+aussie kids tv Oh man, that's gonna break the bank.
+that1cameraguy might have to check the exchange rates...... 😂😂
A very good review, but can you give me an option for the sony 70-300 if i want to shoot wild life? I use a A7II, and i thimk i need a little bit more then 300 mm. Cand you give me another option at a resonable price? Thank you :)
Maybe adapt a sigma 150-600mm. I haven't personally tested the combo yet however
How did you like the sony system over the canon?
+Philip Ypon Having used the Sony Mirrorless system for the past few months, the only real compelling advantage I find with the system is the 4k, high frame rate video, and electronic viewfinder. If I only shot photos, then I would prefer the Canon system over the Sony.
Just last night I shot a dance, and my a7rii died on me all of a sudden. It had an OEM battery grip with two OEM batteries, one battery died and for whatever reason, did not jump to the second battery. If it was a paid gig, I would have missed some important stuff. However, that’s a quirk that all systems have and I’ve had my fair share of odd quirks like that with Canon.
Their still aspects of the Sony system I don’t like, like the small buffer for raw it has, slow movement of focus points, low light focusing is a mix, and not a lot of lighting options for the system just yet. I really love my Canon 600 EX-Rt’s.
+that1cameraguy Well, i guess you'll appreciate the portability on the a7r ii's as well as their 4k video capabilities. That's a bummer it gave up on you in the middle of the shoots, at least you weren't shooting weddings. However, the auto focusing and battery life on the a7r ii's are the main drawbacks on this camera. Somehow, sony will addressed and fixed these issues on their next a7r ii successor. I totally agree with you on choosing canon for stills over sony, i think canon produce better skin tones than any cameras in my opinion and that is indeed subjective. I've read that canon is about to unveil their new 600 ex-rt mark ii version speed light very soon! Good luck and have fun with your sony system. Great job! and keep the reviews and videos coming! 👍👍👍
+Philip Ypon Thanks, really appreciate it. I will say though, it is a must to have the battery grip on the Sony a7Rii when shooting an event. It was weird when it died on me, but in most cases, having the battery grip was necessary. For what I've been shooting, I haven't had to swap batteries out because of it.
Nice job on a well balanced review!
What cam did you use for the 120pfs footage?
+Joseph Ferrari I used the Sony a6300.
Thanks for your response.
And thanks for the great review.
Can you do a review on the Sony 18-105mm f4?! Thanks...
I'll have to buy the lens when I have some extra cash. But I'll do one in the future.
+that1cameraguy Yes... Hopefully you'll do it! Glad to see you respond to me that quick
+Thuan Le What do you want to know about the lens? Do you want me to focus on the photo and video autofocus?
+that1cameraguy I'd like to know about the image quality and how it works as an one for all type of shooting (wide to tele)
the light at bottom left corner is quite attracting
and i just subscribed
This was a perfect review! Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you
Are you getting one?
that1cameraguy I did! I used your link to order it overnight and shot a track meet yesterday.
Nice, how did that go.
hey can you recommend either this sony 70-300 or sigma 70-200 f2.8?TQ
If you want continuous autofocus, you need the 70-300. The 70-200 F2.8 Sigma will work but only for still subjects.
It looks like the SEL70200GM lens will have the Sony Teleconverter 2.0x support which will get you 140-400mm but the trade-off is that your best f-stop is f/5.6... still I'll be very interested to see how it performs on the A7RM2. AFAIK, that same combo will work on the a6300 as well! 210-600mm! :P
+cnick6 Oh nice. I didn't know their was an upcoming teleconverter.
+that1cameraguy yep sony is releasing a 1.4x and a 2.0x but it *only* works with the SEL70200GM lens :(
+cnick6 Seriously! So we have to buy the G-Master lens?
+that1cameraguy Yep only that lens...
how does it compare to the Sony E 18-200mm f3.5-6.3 OSS LE
No idea :( I'll have to get one of those in the future.
Just picked up a used one for 1000aud/ under 700usd to compliment my a7iii kit lens and batis 18mm for astro.
1000 aud wow, that is a bargain
Appreciate the review.
Really had been hoping for an e-mount 50-300 constant f4. But I know that's a bit idealistic. Not overly, right :-) Could have said f2.8, but then we'd have to expect $$$+.
Was strongly considering the the f4 70-200, but having that additional 100mm - you'd say is probably worth it? And, the $ for the f4 70-200 is more than the new 70-300 oss?
Feel like Sony is teasing us.
Thanks again. Let me know your thoughts. I do need something w: more reach. I do mostly video (some stills too) via a7sii.
Same here. Thinking of 70-200 f4 or 70-300 using the a6300.
how do you like the a6300?
A6300 is great so far. Definitely a step up from my NEX-6. Haven't tried the A6000 because I wanted a beefier body and mout. I got the 70-300 and the lens is solid on the A6300, although haven't used it that much.
Would you recommend this Lens over the Sony 70-200 F4?
I only recommend it if you need the reach.
ok thanks!
Great review, thanks!
what are your thoughts on the lens for wildlife photography 5 months on?
Since I don't shoot wildlife, I really can't comment. Sorry. Lens is still working well though.
Maybe it is just me but I am seeing a lot of images a bit out of focus
Excellent review. Thank you!
Thanks, glad you liked it.
Hi, can you tell us something about how it works with the A6000, especially in terms of PDAF capabilities and hi ISO management?
Are there downsides or issues for this full frame-native lens in terms of Image Quality on the APS-C format cameras (including the A6300) ?
Thank You
Massenzio Taborelli have you got the combo you talk about? (a6000 + 70-300mm G)
if so, how is it working out for you brother? i'm really considering it for surf photography so any feedback would be great
I feel like this would work amazingly with the a7s2
+GeneralGarvel How so? How do you plan to use the two in conjunction?
+that1cameraguy the lowlight on the a7s would make up for the lack of low aperture
Ah, okay. Got it.
+GeneralGarvel A7s2 only has CDAF, not PDAF, so its tracking abilities may not be up to those of the a-6000/a-6300 or other 2nd-series A7 bodies (A72, A7r2) that do have PDAF. No direct experience on my part though, just sayin'...
I have been thinking about getting this lens for my a6300 but im worried it will be useless for indoor school gyms for sports, that are poorly lit, since its only f4.5.. Its a expensive lens for me. Is it worth it? I was gonna use it outdoors as well.
Not worth for indoors sports
This is a great Landscape lense, F8, F11 and F16 is what it will be used at most of the time anyways :D
there is the nativ 24-240mm is also great on the crop of an APS-C Size Sensor:
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Nice. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the useful info
No problem.
What's the point of this lens in comparison to 24-240? Both are large and slow lenses. 5.6 vs 6.3? not much difference. And what's the difference between 240 and 300 in real life zooming to infinity? not much. Out of these twos, 24-240 is actually cheaper and covers more useful range.
I haven't tried the lens myself so I can't really comment. For sports and possibly wildlife, every bit of reach helps in the end.
Great review, thanks .....
Thanks!
I want to see no more focus by wire lenses. At least not as many. Sony targets video makers with cameras like the a7s ii, a6300 and a7r ii but then gives us the worst type of lenses for video. I will just stick with Rokinon for video and Sony for photo. Great review, nice to see some zooms come out. Only if they made it faster.
+skatertwig26 Thanks. Yeah, for sure. I'm sure will start seeing more variety soon.
+skatertwig26 It's because they want you to use AF for video :)
***** They know many film makers won't haha
+skatertwig26 I disagree, the full frame mirrorless sensors aren't aiming mainly at videographers. Sony has FS5 and 7 for videographers. You might need to think of CaNikon if you don't like the focus by wire lenses.... The recently launched GM lenses have focus by wire mechanism. (I bought 24-70GM and that's a great great lens TBH).
Ty I didn't say mainly, I said "Sony targets videographers". Which they do. The slog 3, internal 4k and so on shows it. That by no means, mean they don't largely target photographers too. They are trying to take over both markets. I am not saying that their lenses aren't great because they are. I just wish they would have a line that were not focus by wire. I would not shoot Nikon or Canon. I shoot both photo's and video a bit so I need a camera that does both well. Nikon and Canon fall short for video. I also can not stand using OVF'S. I will continue what I am doing, Rokinon for video, Sony for photo. It is not a big enough issue to switch. It is just something they should think about. Since so many people have the same issue. I really like my Sony. I had the a65, a7 and now the a6300 and each were fantastic. My favorite being the a6300. I am curious to see what the a9 will be.
cost aside, which lemse do you prefer... the 70_200f4 or 70-300 f4.5-5.6? thanks
It's tough to say right now. I think the 70-300 is the better lens. The F4 is alright on the 70-200, but you get a lot more reach out of the 70-300. It really depends on what you shoot. Honestly, once I get the 70-200 G-Master and 1.4x extender. These two lenses will become a little obsolete for me.
+that1cameraguy thx... only concern is sharpness.. is the 70-200 any sharper?
Are you familiar with Dave Dugdale? Check his channel out, he has a video exactly comparing the 70-200 F4 and 70-300 for sharpness.
+that1cameraguy the
Can you still focus properly with the extender?
"The lens will creep when if pull down on it." I don't think you know what lens creep means.
I thought the lock was to lock creeps from using it. Lens creep is actually when the lens creeps down by itself, not when you pull down on it.
I'm looking to have my camera on an tripod....
Wish they made a cheaper non 'G' version of this
+Will John Totally agree! This lens is too expensive.
am I the only one who thinks RX10IV probably a much better setup in these situations?
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Sony drop the price !!!!!
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+World smack Thanks! Hopefully I can keep producing content you'll like to watch.
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