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Enkidu, easily. From my understanding his human form is a nerfed version of him
Yep him turning himself into that form weakness him by massive amounts.
And then the lancer class nerfs him again
Lancer Luck is in effect
In power, though in human form he has higher iq
@@Luzhong_editz I feel like Merlin would be strongest berserker ever. all these effects that Tsiash is describing don't apply to berserker's because they lose their humanity and thus lose ability to use noble phantasms or special skills. What you need to be best berserker is HIGH strength stat and strong noble phatansm(Blade). Merlin has B rank in Strength(But this downgraded 1 rank because of caster class) and he has Excalibur. easily one of strongest swords. Strength in universe as stat = damage of basic attacks. That is why Heracles was so strong. He had like A+ or something in strength +he had bravery but issue with Heracles was that he only had a regular axe-sword which is crap. If he wielded something like excalibur, he'd 1 hit every servant. that is exactly what Merlin would probably be. A berserker that hits you once and you die.
You have to search for servant with extremely powerful weapon and high STR scale. Maybe Miyamoto Musash could be strong as Berserker class. Characters that have moves like Tsubame Gaeshi, IF you can find a character a strong technique that can be used as berserker, they'd also be top-tier berserker's. Berserker is basically ALL-melee class. Typically weak class because most regular noble phantasm are better than melee.
Considering her whole story revolves around obsession and wanting to prove herself, I'd say Mordred would make a good berserker.
Mordred has never really been mindless tho, even when she was the only person alive on her side she was still thinking soundly, not having a good goal or excuse for doing the things she did, but it were still sound decisions on her part
@@blank7062you don’t have to be mindless I don’t think
Off the top of my mind as per usually cu cullain would be very good as his story literally revolves around his “warp spasms” and dying while stood up as he tied his intestines around a standing stone with his hand in the air(after death said hand fell and killed a man)
Edit: I guess I was right
My man, Tsiah just explained in story form why you *literally* should not sleep on Ashwatthama. (poor Uttamauja)
Hear me out: Santa Claus
Starts as Rider class, everyone comments that he's a bit off, big reveal that the current event is happening on December 23rd, midnight hits and he turns into Grand Berserker KRAMPUS, shit goes sideways for EXACTLY 24 hours, and all of the "naughty children" are dead just in time for Christmas
Literally an Anti-evil weapon of mass destruction for one day only
Pretender: Santa Claus/Saint Nicolas *(Krampus/Baphomet)*
@ocaradaesquina821 I wish! Oberon already had that reveal, so this time it's the legit Santa Claus, but he also qualified for Berserker class
@@kingcrazymf9585 so...Santa Alter?
@ocaradaesquina821 ...Yes. But a Berserker.
Literally just futurama santa
I think there's another theme that needs to be taken into account when picking grands. Orion was picked because he was a hunter, not just because of his archery. Casters are picked with the prerequisite of clairvoyance. The grand Assassin has been hinted to have a connection to "the mountain". It's not just because they are the greatest or strongest. When it comes to Grand Berserkers, I'm guessing it might have something to do with "possessing instincts that see the truth of things and disregard everything else to the point of being seen as insane"... or something like that. It's as good a guess as anything at this point.
funnily enough there are some lower strength servants that actually need to be summoned as grand servants to exhibit their true strength.
One Servant who is classified as a Berserker and presumably could be summoned but we've only gotten to experience indirectly is Magni - son of Thor - as he was used as Beatrice's Class Card in Prisma Illya and the only one not from a pre-established Servant. I'd imagine he'd be a top-tier Berserker if he were allowed to manifest. Mjolnir was quite the force to be reckoned with just with Beatrice wielding it.
17:17 the story of Achilles and Hector never sat well with my child mind when I first read it. Bad stuff happens during war, but the level of disrespect Hector got in death from Achilles just seemed so foul. That mess stayed with me for life 😅 I was salty with Brad Pitt in Troy the whole way through lol, and when I saw him in Fate, I didn't want to like him during Apocrypha. Say what you will about Hector, at least he went out and faced his death with honor rather than hiding in the castle walls. Takes heart. Achilles was born and bred for war, and knew what can happen. For him to rage out always felt like a tantrum of great warrior
This one might need some convincing, but I would like to see Gawain in the berserker class. After Lancelot inadvertently caused the death of Gawain's brothers during the turmoil surrounding Guinevere's execution, Gawain was pushed into a frenzied rage towards Lancelot upon returning with Arthur. During the war with Lancelot’s country, pretty much everyone (even Arthur) was looking for a way to end the conflict, everyone except for Gawain. At this point during the events of the story, his singular focus was on killing Lancelot and avenging his brothers. Since everyone on both sides didn’t want to fight against each other anymore except for Gawain, they decided to give Gawain a final battle to end the war against Lancelot. Pretty much everyone was convinced that Lancelot would win but at least it would forcibly stop and soothe Gawain’s bloodlust. However, much to the surprise to everyone, during their fight, for the first time ever, Gawain and Lancelot were on equal footing. Gawain, during this rage was able to become equals with Lancelot, inflicting multiple wounds, and overwhelming him at various moments, and not to mention that this was all before it even turned noon. And when it did finally turn noon, for three consecutive hours straight, Gawain forced Lancelot into doing nothing but playing defense. For literal hours on end he couldn’t even attempt to fight back just due to how powerful Gawain was during that time. In legend, Lancelot is always clearly shown to be Arthur’s best knight. He is showcased being vastly superior to everyone else with only Tristan being his equal. Gawain during this time surpassed the strength of knights previously stronger than him (Bohort and Percival) and jumped to fighting equally against the greatest knight of the round table.
Fate is just out here getting people to read classic literature and ancient poetry and im here for it
I feel like Cain would be a pretty good berserker servant; either that or an assassin.
Facts. Cain would've been perfect for Berserker, Assassin, or even the Grand servant of either of those classes
He isnt a Servant yet, but Ivar the Boneless always seemed like a great candidate for an OP Berserker
You mean Ivar...?
To be fair, Ivar would fit more with the Avenger class, given the circumstances that led to him coming to prominence and all that
@@edwardwu2639 That too. Plus, Ragnar's already a Servant. And a Berserker to boot.
Ragnar is a servant!
In that New Novel wich is sequel of Apocrypha
I see we have a Vikings’s fan in the room 😂, but you’re not wrong.
Even if this look strange, i think that Medea of Colchis could be a Berserker, because her tragic past in that she was blindly in love to Jason, as result of Aphrodite's schemes, to the point that her blind love leads Medea to turned on her own family, meaning that Medea had a insanity moment since some aspects.
Thus, making her qualified for the Berserker class.
I hope we eventually get a non-berserker lu bu it would be cool to see him as a four-star lancer or something, though I really want a saber or archer herc tho given how good he is as just a berserker he is probably going to be overpowered. (not like that's a bad thing).
Lu Bu's canonical strongest class is Rider.
Hot take…But I feel Mordred should have been a Berserker when she was first revealed. With how she went crazy after being denied he throne by her legend. I feel that should’ve justified it. Another one that would fit is surprisingly Medb. Because I think I remember that her hatred of Cu drove her to do some crazy things.
Mordred has never really been mindless tho, even when she was the only person alive on her side she was still thinking soundly, not having a good goal or excuse for doing the things she did, but it were still sound decisions on her part
Enkidu as a berserk weapon of the gods untainted by humanity would be a roaming catastrophe if it doesn’t outright destroy the world.
and i have to mention, in lostbelt 7, the ritual of sacrifice for tez is actually present, the avenger ixcalli would be the one to become tezcatlipoca, and he was there to oversee the entire ritual, i highly recomend you guys read his profile, bc tez alone can have an entire video on why berserker its the class that makes more sense to tez
I feel genuinely conflicted about Tezcatlipoca being allowed to be a grand servant. Wasn’t there a whole thing that divine spirits (gods) aren’t allowed to be grand servants? It was said that Romulus was an exception due to him basically being human first that becoming a god. But Tezcatlipoca is just a straight up god. Why was he allowed to take the position in the first place? Is this just Nasu retconning again or is it something else? Even if we got Tez as grand berserker, I feel that I’d still be conflicted about it because of what was said before in the story.
On another note, why was the whole grand assassin situation retconned in the first place? What was so great about that bit of whole building is that only one was qualified to hold that position, that being King Hassan. You know, because he is the reason assassins became a thing. So, why ruin that by just throwing Tez into and giving this odd explanation about how he is connected to the mountain or whatever? I won’t lie, my personal feelings toward Tez has soured because of it even though he is a cool character. I’m not trying to throw shade, I’m just genuinely conflicted. What do you all think?
Nasu either forgetting or hoping we forget about that
I believe the reason he can be one even when he is a divine spirt is because created a human body so he is technically a Pseudo Servant.
Nasu being flippant about his own rules as usual. But, from a mythology perspective, maybe all the times mortals acted as earthly vessels for him in those Toxcatl rituals (4:25) had something to do with it. That could represent enough of a "closeness" with humanity to bend the rules, like with Quirinius.
actually, this is explained, tez is powerful enough to create a human body for himself, which he uses through out lb 7, and to use his divine powers with his human body, he has to sacrifice his own organs to do so, he shows this when he show the future to chaldea of ORT rupturing the earth, and so, because he has a human origin but with powers of a god, he can be a grand servant, if you look at his profile, he even has the ''living human'' trait
and as for he being able to be a grand assassin, he has a voice line for this :''Old man, I succeeded to the Grand name through a connection with the mountains, but this is a loan, 'kay? Next time I hav to finish up something, just give it up at once.'' He basically exploited a loophole to be the grand assassin for a while, but he need finish whatever he needs to finish to make him able to hold the title forever, the only true grand asssassin for now is still KH
I’VE always wondered about who could be an Avenger servant (and/or get an Avenger alternate). I’ve thought of servants like Mordred, Boudica, Anastasia, and Diarmuid, but those are just the ones I know the (basic) lore/history of. You could probably even include Artoria and Iskandar too.
In regards to Tez, I have two questions that I feel have been answered elsewhere, but might as well put them here:
1. Aren’t divine spirits not allowed to be Grand Servants due to humans needing to fill the role?
2. Can’t literally no one else be the Grand Assassin due to King Hassan being that much of a Chad?
I’m on LB5, and know some of 6 and 7, so I’m not that afraid of spoilers
Couldn't Sun Wukong assuming he one day could be summonable be a contender for the Grand Berserker Servant title?
funnily enough i could see Wukong being summoned as an Alter ego by being too strong to be directly summoned and having one of his clones being summoned.
@@constantdemonics Or he could go the Pseudo Servant route that almost every other divine/godly servant goes though the question would then become who would be a suitable vessel for him? He could hijack his master's spirit origin and use her as a vessel similar to how Cu Caster is actually Odin.
Asva 100 %, I'm still baffled as to why he isn't! 😂
Edit: Now I see why, I will not complain about our dear hot wheels anymore. 😰
Could Cain be a Beserker?
They really should have just given us Tez as a Berserker. The class is the ONLY thing holding him back, and even THEN he's still INSANE and insanely good.
Finally Tezcatlipoca appreciation
Or Ruler, I always liked him being Ruler like how he was summoned by Daybit. He's probably the best representation of the class given how he operates in the story.
@@dzigayu4944 He aint called the Necoc Yaotl ("Enemy of Both Sides") for nothing.
Yes. This was a spoiler for me, but either way, I agree. Let’s finish filling out the rest of the Grand classes before we keep filling and refilling positions ( ie. Grand Caster and Grand Assassin )
@@jamesknott5255 Granted I won't go into how busted Tez is. The fact that he can even take or fill the Grand Assassin seat at all should be impressive. But if you look up his lore on Wikipedia or ANY other such sources, Tez has so many epithets, that he can EASILY fill in to ANY of the main Seven classes and even wield Grand Status for some of them. Be it war and combat, sorcery, outright abusing loopholes conceptual or otherwise, the dude can do it all.
Could you tell me where you found thise illustrations of Roland going apeshit?
Ashwatthama lore was new to me thanks for making this video..
After hearing all these epic, tragic stories behind the madness and grief of others Roland comes off as joke. Also I still hate Achilles final armor being the one Hephaestus made for him to rampage in. I would’ve preferred if it was the one Patroclus was given by Achilles when he refused to leave camp. Also BS Hector’s dad came sobbing with BS when Hector was as much a PoS.
This makes me wanna do poetry so many bars and rhymes
Just curious, why ? 😂
If nasu decided to add thor to the serie he better be a berserker
i feel like some of these would fit more as beasts then beserkers since that class is new in JP we need more to fill that slot
Although is a beserker Kiyohime is nerfed her story is very popular as one of historys original Yandre and has many ways of fighting with a fan that is taught to dismarm swords she should be a 4 star berserker orginally or possibly avenger she just went after one person imagine if she went after an army, she has ex madness and her np is ex she just nerfed a lot of people wondered why she was 3 star when she should have been a 4 or 5 star, her story has been covered many times
Even though Tez got nerfed as a Grand Assassin, he's still overpowered as fuck and one of the best Assassins in the entire game.
I'm waiting for that Tezcatlipoca vid once the final lostbelt gets released in NA.
Bro Ash 💀💀 and that weapon, nuclear weapons but on cosmic steroids
Damn 😱👿
Description of ashwatthama NP hits me sooo hard that I feel even EA and solomon Np pale in comparison to its BS
Thank god he vowed not to use it in FGO
Make a tier list about the main fgo stories
i would also like to see Boudica as a berserker
I’d rather see Boudicca as an Avenger.
@@jamesknott5255 true, you do have a point
Still waiting for ashwatth 5 star version
Don't the Aztec have a monstrous beast that is half dead and thier own equivalent of the Norse's Ymir? A giant being/beast that was used to make the earth? Because that beast (and even Ymir himself) could be great canidates of Grand Berzerker, since they both needed multiple gods to slay them while they themselves aren't divine (are frost giants even considered divine? Please let me know) 🤔❓
i would say vritra beacause he made indra shit himself just by raging
So wait, shouldn’t the Brahmashira astra be equal or even stronger then Ea or Excalibur?
Servent that are Archer should be Saber
You must be new to Fate huh ? 😂
24:40 by they way there talking cu warp spasm should looked like a Elden ring boss
You really sold me on Tez. I wasn’t planning on it but i think i gotta roll for bro when he drops next year
Random question. Do we have any african heros or deities in fate media? if not i would like some and what hero or deity would be perfect for the verse?
nah we don't and i've been incredibly salty about it especially as a someone whose famiy is from africa but never had any decent knowledge about about african myth and heroes so would've loved to see some in fate but not trying to throw shade fate series and the ones connected to it have a habit of completely overlooking certain heroes myths and then changing what they would've looked like and i dont mean their tendency to do suprising gender swaps u can see what im getting at
Well egypt is part of africa
Also i remember being another one, but i already forgot who
Nzambi was summoned as a caster in Fate/Requiem. Atop that you do also have the egyptian servants we've gotten through FGO.
Same bruh. Where are our Polynesian heroes.
Been waiting for Maui to come to fate for so long.
Ramses and nitrocris
Hear me out: Salieri. Avenger class suits his lostbelt version perfectly, but I really want to see his proper human history version as a berserker
Attempt 110 of asking you to do a video on white wolf's world of darkness
A bit off topic but if illya wasn't forced to summon heracles there's no doubt she wouldn't have summoned nightingale assuming she existed in the fate universe at that time since both are insane and will keep shirou alive for as long as possible to torment him in the bad ends of stay night
Emiya alter should have been berserker, emiya with high stats is a nightmare for most servants.
Every servant should have been Archer class
First, babyyyy-
Edit: I thought. 😂
This video may be kind of realize I have an issue with the Avenger class because Berserker and Avenger overlap a lot I know in Canon Berserkers are physically Superior to Avengers but like they're both classes were a person loses their mind they both hit like meteors they're both incredibly hard to kill Avenger other than being kind of crazy and a lot of servants who would have Berserker forms you said get Avenger forms
Having Tezcatlipoca becoming an Assassin after he was hyped up as Grand Berserker for years was really disappointing to me. Now we'll never get the Grand Berserker actually summonable as Grand Berserker. We already have the original Grand Assassin I really hate how often they double up on Grand slots nowadays.