NEVER Sell Your Honda S2000 | This is My Story
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I have been daily driving a S2000 since January 4, 2003. Over 20 years and 300,000 miles of daily driving the S2K. Will keep forever. It’s my favorite car. I love it more than my Ferrari.
What a legend. Drives an s2k and a ferarri
300k? Uhhh you sure?
@@alndi3 I’m quite sure.
@@rabidrabiesracing Amazing. I’m currently at 54k. Good to hear.
@@alndi3 it’s a bulletproof engine. Be sure to get a TCT from Billman.
Owned a number of s2000s for over a decade. Driven the 997 GT3 and 981 GT4. Did my first track day in the S2k, and learned how to work on my car in a S2K. That S2000 was my Japanese teacher. Some of us were lucky enough to build a lifetime bond with the S2000. S2000 for life! Other cars get added to the stable but the s2000 has a permanent place. I even did a buyer's guide of the s2000 in my TH-cam channel. Thank you Shigeru Uegara, the father of the S2000!
How would you compare the GT3 & 4?
@@phillpana GT4 is an s2000 on steroids. It’s so good (so much grip and handles like it’s on rails) that it makes you feel like a pro.
@@ky7037 noted ! 😁
@@ky7037 Lotus Elise is comparable.
Bro I agree I had my o8 s2k since may 14 2011 treated my self a bday gift so every bday I go for a cruise in it its two viecles I'll never get rid of my fj cruiser and s2k
I paid 18.5k in full for my s2k in 2020. I was 19 and thats huge chunk of change for someone that age. It took blood, sweat, and persistence to get it and thats exactly why I'll never sell mine. Its my dream car and most importantly it has sentimental value to it, showing how my hard work had paid off.
Bought my 2001 AP1 used 12 years ago and despite putting another 65,000 miles on it, it is now worth much more than I originally paid for it. It's like getting paid to drive a free car, if you stop to think about it. Also, it is incredibly reliable unlike many cars and hitting the 9000 redline is always spine tingling as the VTech kicks in. It's a car with timeless beauty and is a real head turner. People are drawn to the S2K and will often come up to chat just to look at the car closeup. One guy literally ran out of a restaurant when I parked and shouted "A S2000! My dream car. Someday I'll get one, someday." I replied that I really hope that he could get one day and that they were awesome cars. I'm 75 now but will continue to drive mine until I am physically unable or am in a box after they pry my cold, dead fingers off of the steering wheel. To say I love this car is an understatement. If you have one, never let it go.
Truth! I feel the same way about my '00 AP1 - there is NOTHING like it :)
It's worth something. Unless someone smashes into you. Which is out of your control :/
@@idokwatcher2062 Yes, a lady backed into my car door in a church parking lot of all places. Big dent but it got fixed without having to replace the entire door and the door frame around it was fine. Luckily.
@@idokwatcher2062 Depending on how severe that is or is not and if you can get it cleaned up nicely afterwards then there's no reason why it can't hold value.
I am fortunate to still have a S2000, but I have owned and sold other vehicles special to me that would now be very challenging to replace. I've also lost people in my life that meant far more to me than any vehicle, keeping things in perspective. Getting into a house doesn't make for exciting video content like a S2000 does, yet it does count for a lot. Take it from an old guy, there is a bigger picture but the irony is that it doesn't usually come into focus until much later in life. Nothing is forever and change is inevitable. You might even end up with another S2K. As it is, you've had many automotive experiences that very few who follow will ever come to know.
It was a tough lesson but more power doesn't always mean more better. S2000 was the answer the entire time. Fingers crossed another will come !
@@phillpana I wish you much luck in finding another S2K. When you have all of your ducks in a row, I'd suggest that you actively get the word out that you're looking and ready to buy among any S2000 owners (or S2K owners groups, sports car owners groups, etc.) there where you're at. You might be able to preempt someone considering listing their car that would prefer to avoid the headaches of doing so.
Yup, I owned 2003 for almost 10 years (3 mos shy). Sold it with 65k mi to buy my condo.
Yeah, I get pretty sad occasionally thinking about it. But as you said priority shift and life happens. 😭
It's amazing that after almost 25 years, the S2000 is still highly sought after and compared against. Mate, 9000rpm and 240HP from just 2.0 litres naturally aspirated, was a big fucken deal in 1999.
i think its a big deal even now!!
Its an even bigger deal now
Not to mention that the Ap1 is one of the last GREAT analog cars made by ANY manufacturer. If money were no object for me, I would buy a Singer Porsche, but an Ap1 in my opinion is a similar experience as compared to most the cars today with traction control, turbos that practically drive themselves.The f20 engine is LEGENDARY regardless of price. Car and Driver named it the best naturally aspirated engine of all times over a $2 million McLaren amongst others.
the Ap1 is timeless !
So true! Everyone is all about the F22c because a tiny bit more torque but the real sportscar engine is the F20c for serious enthusiasts imo, you really have to work for the power and be super focused!
Oh I absolutely agree! The AP1 is the ultimate 😊
@@binskee677 And superchargers love that extra 1000 rpm ;)
Love the AP1! Best car
I sold my black s2000 in 2020. I regrated it foreverrrr! Even had dreams about having it on multiple occasions. I missed putting that top down, the feel of the car and the overall experience of it for 4 years. I went on unpaid medical leave due to having a chronic medical problem and I thought to myself what better time to keep my mind occupied and have some fun then working on and driving an s2000 again. I got one this year in January and boy was it one of the best decisions I ever made. Never selling it ever. I hope you get one back mate, even if you have to pay a premium. They will hold there value. I had to pay a pretty penny more for mine because of the rising prices but still way worth it.
Cheers
Thank you for sharing your story man. Hope you are able to make a recovery and glad you found enjoyment in an S2000 again ! I do plan to one day return to an s2000 but I recently just purchased something unique. A manual V8 convertible Roadster💪 and it brought me back to everything I loved about my s2000. Although it cannot rev as high, but for now it is awesome. I'll hopefully have more content on that car soon. the S2000 will always be something I will get back into eventually.
I’m on my second S2000. The reason I sold the first one was moving from country to another. It took me five years to be able to get back in one and I’m hold on to it for life. I can totally feel how much you regret selling yours and I’m pretty sure some day you will be lucky enough to come across one again because I know how much you appreciate this vehicle.
Had an 08 CR which I sold 10 years ago-biggest regret
Similar situation happened to me but luckily I was the buyer. The kid got married, his wife suddenly became pregnant and he just purchased a house. So the car had to go. He just did an overhaul, ohlin coilovers, brand new tires/rims for track, roll cage, titanium exhaust, racing seats, tune, fluid changes, and was about to sign up for Grid Life. But ended up selling it to me for 17,000 with 80,000 miles. I will never sell this car. Such a fun car to drive and I will never turbo it. Plenty of power for me. I do have an R33 GTR tuned to 500hp, so I still get my turbo fix there.
best of both worlds!
Love my ap1. Owned it since 2010, bought for $12k with only 36k miles, currently 137k and still drives as solid as the day I got her. Testament to Honda’s reliability.
Awesome! They are very powerful, high revving, super responsive AND still reliable on top of all that greatness :)
The car will be worth 60k had you not put miles on it
I am going on 16 years of S2000 ownership. I had an AP2 for 4 years and then sold it for a CR which I’ve had for 12 years. Recently added another car to the stable but could not bring myself to sell my S2000! I have driven so many cars over the years and have not found another car that could fully replace it. I still am in love with the way the S2000 goes down the road and the way it makes you feel.
Great collection you have. Whats the recent addition? Would love to get my hands of a CR but they are non-existent down my way. I've now learnt to add cars rather than sell when possible. We'll see what the future brings !
@@phillpana thanks! I bought a Porsche 981 GTS.
@@adrs2k Thats real nice. How does it stack up to the s2k?
@@phillpana It is the better all around car for sure. More spacious, more comfortable, easier to get in and out of, higher limits, more compliant and composed, more capable, more powerful, amazing engine and intake noise. It's a perfect all around everyday car that is at home in traffic, on the freeway, and hitting up your favorite back road. It is enjoyable at all speeds. Downside is its just fast enough that you can't wind out more than 2 gears without going way too fast, with the higher limits I find I need to be going 10-15mph faster around a corner than i would in the S2000 for it to start getting exciting.
The S2K is the more raw, direct, pure experience. Inputs are more direct and instantaneous, and it feels like your going really fast at posted speed limits. It's an easier car to near the limits of on the street vs the Cayman. The S2k feels more alive and engaging and you feel everything through the chassis.
The S2K is the car that I prefer when i want to drive hard and the Porsche is the car I enjoy cruising around in.
@@adrs2k I know what your saying. Too fast for enjoyment on the street. Hence why newer faster cars just don't excite me that much. Its still a beautiful car regardless . Thanks for sharing ! great insight.
I haven't owned too many sports cars, but the S2000 is my favorite. I'm fine without having a shitton of power and keeping up with the times. I'm getting older and these cars are part of the eras a lot of us grew up admiring.
I got my 2003 AP1 in 2019 right before Covid for $20K in the US. Driving my S2000 on the empty roads during covid was fantastic. I'm never selling it.
I own one, was supposed to keep it 2 years and sell it. It's now 14 years I have it 😂 I thought multiple times selling it, but each time came the question "For what?" No answer. There's more powerful, yes, but what the S is providing is unique. And my friends tell me that I'll go to the grave with it. 😂 I love it so much, and unless a huge financial issue, I will never ever sell it ❤️
Greetings from France 😁
Salud!
Keep on holding on !. Thanks for the input :)
I brought my s2000 back in 2017 for 7,500 us dollars it had over 200k miles on it had minor things to fix on it and now it being 2023 i still have it and it's still going strong best purchase I've made in my life
Great insight on your S2000 ownership and thoughts. I'm still mad that I had to let my 05 Ap2 go, but I got to keep my 08 CR. At times, life tells me it's time to let it go for the bigger picture, but I know I could never replace such a rare version of the S2000
Yeah , just keep it. I thought their was a bigger picture. But their wasn't 🤣 The s2K was the one and only.
Mate, thanks a lot for voicing out your undying passion for the car. Clicked your video didn't expect it to be an Aussie. I am in Sydney and (sorry) I still own my 2001 ap1. Been owning it since 2012 and not planning on selling it yet 😅. When I bought it it was on 74kkms now it is sitting on 183kkms. I learned manual in this car. A lot of good memories including driving down to your hood (Melbourne) in 2021 December. Unforgettable 3600kms road trip. Saw your photo on GOR. I took a photo for my car in that exact same spot 👌Love it mate ❤ I wish that one day you can get back in one again. Cheers.
Love to see another Aussie ! Glad you still have your s2k and maybe one day i will find another but at this rate its a waiting game so we shall see .
Mine already had 200,000 miles 5 years ago, so I couldn't sell it even I wanted. Glad I kept it. (Now at 250k miles with few miles driven since pandemic)
Bought my Laguna Blue 06 AP2 brand new and still own it. Kept it bone stock and garaged so it still looks mint. I've been tempted to sell a few times, most recently a couple of months ago when someone offered a lot for it. Still can't let it go, probably never will.
I own an '07 S2000, I only Drive on weekend. Its a dream for me. The hole week waiting for the end off the week just to Drive It.
Enjoyed watching this, mine is probably the best purchase I’ve ever made, bought it for less than £9k, it had one owner and 28k on the clock, it now sits at 42k and has more than doubled in value probably. And it has a hard top.
I bought my s2000 in 2022 for $6k. It had the engine pulled out and completely taken apart and I spent $4k getting it rebuilt. It is by far the most fun car I've ever driven. I've driven my mom's NA Miata, my dad had several different mustangs I drove, I have owned a MK5 Golf, a BRZ, an IS300, a 240SX, and currently also own a MK3 Focus RS and none of them have felt as pure fun as the S2000. In the time since I bought mine they have gone way up in price (I saw one in worse shape than mine with a hole in the block go for $15k recently.) I've had little problems over time I've had to fix because of how the car was mistreated before I got it and how long it sat up with it's blown motor but I wouldn't dream of selling it.
The experience and feeling is also what the GT86 is about. Its not speed cars but great driver's cars. I think the best rwd right now regarding feel and affordability is the GT86.
Dropped by to see this video since I still own my 02 Honda s2k in mint condition and 108k miles. I drive her once a week for good times👍🏻 btw I also own an e46 m3 coupe but I still enjoy the driving the S2k more
Damn it! I was trying to convince myself to sell mine and invest the money but I'll keep it now. Thanks.
I will never sell my S2000 🥰🤗🤩 I own an original 2000 AP1 finished in GPW with red interior which I supercharged with my own hands. I fine tune it while doing logging runs too. She's so amazing driven either slowly or fast which is what I do most of the time. She's been so good to me that even the stock '99 TCT has never given me the common problem many others have had! As you said mate, nothing else can compare to the S2000. It's on another level of truly special sports car.
Dude that is amazing!!!!! I wish to drive my S2000 for plenty years to come.
@@FrancisD Thank you! I hope you will too!
My 07 AP2 S2000 (Sebring SIlver + OEM Hardtop) was my first car I purchased after moving to Texas to work in tech. Safe to say I will NEVER sell man
never !
Dude, I really hope the right opportunities show up and you find your way back into an S2000! Thanks for the video
Yeah I hope he can get one soon too. He really misses it for good reason.
I hope so too ! Cheers for tuning in.
Very good video! I have purchased 3 S2000’s! Sold my first one that I turned into a track monster to get a grass is greener mint ap2 in GPW. Stock the car was a bit of a let down after coming from a highly modded example, I sold it to buy another dream car (a Ferrari 360 manual) only to think soon after I needed another s2000 again. So I got my third and said I’d never sell it. Sold it as the values doubled and I felt it was over hyped the price. Still I have had over 10 years with an s2000 and 130k kms driven. Can’t take those memories away. Still I look for a decent red one like my first ap1 but at the price point now it’s hard to justify. I have my ultimate dream car that keeps me occupied a gated Ferrari F355 GTS but if I ever had to sell that I think the only car I can replace it with is an s2000 it’s that good!
found my s2k from a local guy who had a little dealership sold it to me for 11.5k clean title chassis was 184k but all there no rust bc racing coilovers only 70k on the drivetrain. Never drove anything like it. Lost alot of creature comforts from my last daily (ge8 fit) FAR less economical. But when you get on one of these there's nothing like it. It puts such a smile on my face once you pass 6k rpm. You can't and won't find many cars like it in 2024.
Sold mine too. I know exactly what you mean about the feeling, its like you're driving something very special but at 6'1 I couldn't take the cramped space and small seats for anymore than a hour drive.
I Bought mine in an 00 silverstone early 2017 for less than 12,000 euros was lucky to have found with the OEM hardtop it had bit of problems changed diff , made some maintenance small upgrades is on still ongoing project to make an oem+. Till this day I love and very excited every time I drive it, It helped meet lot of people and some are have become my friends as well as learning an appreciate more cars that I would never imagined to see or sit in. Don't lose hope you will find if you keep searching you'll get rewarded. I waited for 10 years to own a Honda I missed buying a CRX an two Integras Type R due to insurance and financial situation.
Having worked at a Honda for 3 1/2 years I can say the S2K owners are a different breed
I just wish Honda made more rwd cars
It’s funny to see how the S2K to this day is a benchmark car for all the new stuff too.
Yuuuup, identical story with my FD RX-7. This hits.
WILL NEVER SELL!!! Bought my 2004 Silverstone S2000 (with OEM hardtop) in July 2012 for $16.5K with 68,000 on the ODO. Mileage now stands at 98,000. Absolutely love the look with the hardtop attached and have left it on the car for the past 4 years. Reason for low miles? Not my daily driver. That title belongs to my 2013 Camaro. Best of luck in reclaiming another S. BRAVO on creating an Amazing vid about an Amazing car!! : )
cheers ! At this stage i've been on marketplace just waiting for a well priced AP1 to show itself. I might be waiting a while but i'll keep trying.
Just bought an '07 AP2. It is an absolutely amazing machine... I can't wait to put hundreds of thousands of miles on her. Looks great parked next to my C6 Z06...
You just convinced me to keep my AP1. Thanks!
Glad to know the video inspired someone !
I owned my ap1 s2k since late 2021, bought it as a shell for $3,750. It's now k24a2 swapped, drives like a f20 s2k. Also have a fk8 and both cars are nice but ap1 is definitely more raw and I love it.
That's a dream swap. Cheaper to maintain too. The f20 is extremely scarce but the k24 is abundant and should be for decades. Would of loved to see a progression videos of the build !
If you go on youtube and search up honda s2000 this is touge , youll see an insane video of a driver and his s2k that really captures the rawness of this car insane.
Update. I bought another one a few weeks ago and continued where I left off. I still had a lot of parts from my last s2000 which is great. I got a decent deal for the car. Even though a lot of the s2000’s are asking for 20k - 30k if you notice those car sit on the market for months. And if you wait long enough you will see them dropping their prices. The car I bought started in the 23k and he lower the price all the way to 19 and I talked him down another thousand. So I paid 4k in the end more than what I sold my car before the pandemic, not too bad in my opinion. Good luck if you’re still looking 🤙
I'm playing the waiting game for sure. Even considering salvage auctions to maybe get a project going. I've still got a honda eg civic to kswap so i'll just see where i end up !
All the best with yours !
“They (other cars) were fucking boring.” Sums up my experience with lots of modern cars.
I had a mint 00’ s2k. Sold it and bought a gen 2 Viper a week later. Zero regrets. Murica
I feel the same way about my MR2 Spyder. Sure there are cars much faster out there, but these lightweight drop tops gives you an amazing feeling when you drive them.
I regret selling my Evo V 7 years ago, and been wanting to get another ever since but just like you, I ain’t paying double.
I had an 01 Mr2 Spyder. Loved that car! They’re great in their own right. I still want one back to this day. I have an AP1 currently. Never going to let it go.
I have a Honda Civic 2016 EU FK 1.6 DTec. Bought it for 13k. Had 38k on the clock. Love this car, love it even more as it has a red/orange pearlescent paint job straight from the dealership. I haven't seen many of my SKU on the road. I would like to hold on this car for as long as I can. In the future if money allows want to add some ground side skirts and front and rear ground skirts. Nothing too ricey but looks almost OEM. Long live ICE cars, if you look after them they'll look after you too ☺️
totally get this... I had a 2002 AP1 from 2007-2015, sold it for a 'safer' car.... ended up buying a 2003 AP1 in 2021 for triple what I sold the '02 for but won't make the selling mistake again.
Glad to know your back on the s2k train ! Ap1 is my personal favourite. I found the responsiveness of the throttle seemed better than the Ap2. Did you find the same?
@@phillpana same! Yes I think those early DBW throttles were just not quite as responsive - that 'safer' car I bought in 2015 for my daily is an 08 Element and even that I notice throttle response just feels a little laggy like the DBW AP2's I've test driven (before picking up this keeper '03 AP1 I test drove an 04 and 07 to see if I wanted to go AP2). The 04 was fine but the 07 seemed to be just a tiny big laggy like my Element, compared to a cable throttle. I've driven newer Hondas since then that don't feel laggy at all but I'm sure the technology is better now than it was 15 years ago.
I feel the same with my FD I bought for 11,000 ages ago and later sold after several years. Now they're 4x as much. If it wasn't for the rotary, I might have gotten another one even at that price range.
@@kalmtraveler Here in North America, the early AP2 cars ( the AP2v1 cars of 2004 and 2005) still retained the cable throttle as found on the AP1 cars. It wasn't until the AP2v2 cars arrived in 2006 that the electronic throttle control made its way to the S2000, along with VSA. The only other market to receive the AP2 cars with the F22C engine that I'm aware of was Japan, but not until 2006. These cars also received drive-by-wire and VSA.
@@VirtualGuth yep, that's why I mentioned that the 07 AP2 I test drove felt laggy just like my 08 Honda Element (also DBW).
Used to drive a 350z, test drove an s2000 on a 2010 I think or 2009 and then jumped back into a 350z and that was more engaging to drive including clutch, gearbox and steering which felt meaty where as s2000 felt just direct with little feel edit: along with so little torque. I regret not buying one because of the value for money of a reliable sports car.
Agreed - S lacks steering feel
always looked past the 350z but you peaked my curiosity now. cheers.
Purchased my 04 Rio back in 2012 with 7000 miles on it, daily drove it for 4 years, and now it sits and comes out time to time, with a hair just over 48k. If I didn't daily drive it when I did, I would be under 10k miles for sure.
However, no regrets, it's meant to be driven, I doubt I'll ever sell mine. I just try to keep it clean (OEM+).
I agree, hold on to the vehicles with manual transmissions.
Awesome vid bro have no doubt you’ll be getting another one in the future not a matter of if, but when 👌🏼
Keen for some other projects first 😁
I never considered selling my cars. I own my Prelude for 16 years and my S2k for 5 years. I would add more cars if i would afford but never replaced the ones i already own
Would love to add more Hondas if i had the space XD. Have you done anything to the prelude?
@@phillpana my Prelude is kinda stock except energy bushings and lowering springs. Same cornering speed as S2000 but easier to drive at the limit. Very underated car
Purchased mine for 27k CANADIAN in 2020. 80000km . It was a long time Dream car for me. I knew the second I drove it that it would be with me forever. Now selling for 45-50 k . I m glad I bought it when I did. I have a one car garage with 2 cars squeezed in. I store my crx in the winter. Its not idea but I dont care. I love my Hondas!
I'm in a very similar situation. I sold my S2000 for $18,000 with only 27,000 miles over 10 years ago. I have not found another car as fun, so I'm looking to buy another one with 25,000 miles, but now I have to pay $29,000. Crazy, but there is just not anything else like it. I'm just hoping the price doesn't drop after I buy it, but either way I am going to keep this one for a long time until I just can't drive it anymore. Will not make same mistake twice.
Sold my 2005 S2000 a few years ago, I have a 718 GT4 now but still wish I kept the S2000.
For me, a vehicle I sold that I miss dearly is my 3rd generation Toyota 4runner. Mine was only a 2wd model, and I now have a much better 4th gen with the 2uz v8, but the 90s interior feel and smell, the smaller overall size of the vehicle, and the ball cooler are all things I miss dearly.
I feel like the perfect 4runner would be a 4wd, Limited trim 3rd generation on 265/75/r17 tires on wheels with a slight negative offset, 2 to 2.5 inch lift all round and levelled, the offroading goodies you need, and a 1uz swap.
I have a 2007 ap2 with about 29,600 miles. Yea it's a fun car to drive and mountain roads.
Funnily enough own both an s2000 and a 997 GT3 and the driving experience/rawness is very similar. Obviously the GT3 is on another level in terms of performance and quality but in some ways the s2000 is more enjoyable to drive (especially on track) because it’s less expensive to repair/fix. Recently drove a friends K swapped (k24 supercharged) s3 Elise and that was pretty mega.
For the money an s2k is hard to beat, but in regards to whether it’s ‘better’ than a GT3 - the F20 as wonderful as it is does not compare to a howling mezger even if it’s cut short 600rpm earlier. This was the exact same reason I discounted a GT4, the engine just isn’t special enough.
Thanks for the vid, it confirms the Honda needs to stay. One negative note, it’s a shame the s2k came with electric steering, it’s the one missing piece of the puzzle
5.50 to 6.10. Boy you can see the passion and hurt there! 😅 But it’s so true my dude. I have an 01 Silverstone w nice OEM upgrades and AP2 wheels. I just wash it, polish it and drive it like I stole it. Nothing but pure awesomeness! Thanks for the reassuring video.
I'll remember this line ''I just wash it, polish it and drive it like I stole it.' Its too good XD. Cheers for watching
2001 acura integra GSR sedan just picked up a super clean one last year it was the car I regretted selling when I was 18 bought a better one now that I’m 36 super cherry stock one owner under 100k miles I’m in California just finished getting it OEM plus and I’m so happy best part is I’ve enjoyed it all year and now I’m passing it on to my son who just turned 16 and now he will enjoy it love your video
I think the tide is turning for s2000s in australia. Last year there were only 7 for sale in the whole country on Carsales, currently there are 27. And prices are gradually falling.
Excellent video, all FACTS. Purchased my 2004 AP2 in 2013 for $17K USD with 62k miles. Today it has 72K miles. You will have to pry this carriage from my cold dead hands.
Totally agree, I never plan to sell mine. It is not the most powerful car, but I can drive it harder since it is not. Tons of fun to drive on the street, autocross, and track.
Of course I won't sell mine, which I bought new 21 years ago. Replaced stereo so I could get USB, K&N intake and heated seat. Otherwise stock. I have the first Nurburgring Blue Metallic in the UK, I bought it self imported from Belgium and saved £ 8k at the time. I am now in my mid 60s and can see myself driving the car for many, many more years.
Own my AP2 for 15 years and for a while I thought it was incomparable. I came across a gen1 Cayman base (boxter basically identical in this era) recently, and actually I think that car is comparable in many ways stock v stock. They both are in the same price range, both have that perfect mid balance, similar weight, and both are relatively reliable (non S 987.1 is reliable as modern Porsche get). They trade blows with totally different philosophies. I think the Cayman would still win in a straight line or on the track even though it has less power, no LSD and McPherson suspension. It's genetics and finesse really do help it that much lol
I owned my 04 ap2 for 7 years before selling it after buying a GPW CR. I will forever hold onto this car for the rest of my life. Nothing like it!
This brings back nostalgia when i purchased a lotus elise within the decade for peanuts. Beautiful car to drive and i planned to keep it forever but i had to start a family so i sold it for a couple thousand extra and thought i'd buy another in 5 years. now they are 4x the price and dont look like they are coming down anytime soon :(
Maybe other options might stand out within your budget. MR2 possibly ? Hope you get something that works !
Enjoy your family to the fullest. Just as with a car, the more time you put into it the more you get out of it. Cars can eventually be replaced, but family can't.
Idiots leave notes offering to buy my S2000 twice a week...
They offer 13-15k usd for my 2004 ap2 and when they get a hearty laugh as I walk away or say I'm going to hang up the phone, they act offended...
Oh I forgot to add I just had a new full canvas softop installed and there is only 45k miles on my s2k...
One idiot told me that the new canvas softop reduces its value because it's not oem...
I'v sold two in the last 20 years...new 2001 Spa Yellow and 2006 Silverstone/Red. Always regreted.
Best car I’ve ever owned. And I’ve owned many many cars on my 3rd s2000 now
Close to selling mine....'08 GWP 53,000 miles garage kept. California.
Hopefully you may hold on a bit longer. Grass is always greener I find.
Don't get married. Don't have children. Problem solved ✔️ 😀
Its a simple life hack XD
@Phill Pana "You take the blue pill... the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill... you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes" - Morpheus
So many times, especially in winter, i’m asking myself why i still keep it … then i take a spin in it after winter and i instantly know why! I can never replace it! I would really love to have a 997 GT3 but the S2000 would have to go and i don’t want that! For daily use and winter i have now a GR Yaris Circuit Pack, another car which is hard to sell. I’ve driven a couple of Porsche GT3’s from 996 to 992 and they are awesome, fast and incredibly capable but nothing has given me the raw feeling like the S2000, mine feels just like a extension of my arms and legs (it’s also modified)
I actually used my s2000 more in winter with the top down. It doesn't snow here so i could get away with it. I think you have a very good garage with the s2000 and GR Yaris. Can't go wrong !
I was thinking about selling my 95 civic coupe with a DOHC VTEC swap, but my mind changed as soon as I took it out for a drive. Its simplicity, lightness, and response can't be replicated by modern cars.
You should upload some of those pov drives of the s2k, I'd love to watch them.
Unfortunately the audio is all distorted :(. Hopefully I can get my hands on one to record.
Found one. th-cam.com/users/shorts5SmAJEjpR-8
A very common story also here in the states. I've owned my '02 AP1since 2011 and I have never ever considered selling it. I tell people, it's not the car for everyone, but for those that like it, they truly love them. Being an ex surfer, I always tell people it's all about the STOKE. No other car comes anywhere close to providing the driving pleasure the S2K offers. Good luck on your search. Cheers
If the price is right, the 2019 BMW M2 is a very nice proper manual and has a great raw feeling but also plenty more power
Only thing more fun than a s2000 is a cannon carving naked bike. I had a 2000 civic si that I had for 20 years and I miss that car. Sure my s2000 was faster but banging gears in that civic was fun and it sounded so unique. Had an unequal length header along with no cat and dc cat back. Sounded like a Subaru that was pushing way more out air out of the exhaust pipe
Great video, I have own my for 9 years, the only car that can replace the s2000 for me is nsx, or a Honda civic mugen rr
Owner of S2k CR and M3 CS. I enjoy driving s2k more than M3. S2k CR is garage queen right now. Bought it 6 yrs ago from original owner and it tripled in value.
You can still get beat up 5+ owner s2k for less than $20k in US but low mileage few owner ones are going over $30k. CR is $50k-150k+ depends on the mileage.
I've never driven an s2000 but I understand that sometimes a car can really get under your skin. I've got 4 cars at the moment... EK9,DC2,DC5 and an Evo 5. All provide me with different experiences and feelings, all of them feel special enough to me to warrant keeping them and I fully intend on adding a few more to the collection in years to come, likely an s2000.
New cars are great and I can appreciate them for what they are, but if you've driven any older vehicle with a splash of character, then you're fucked, because you really start to realise how depressing the future is.
It's been discussed to death, but really who gives a fuck about BHP, Nurburgring lap times, 0-60 when the cars are as dull as dishwater.
Having a car that you can jump in and take out for a drive on a sunny day, that makes you feel good is priceless. The age of owning cars as pleasure items is coming to an end in my opinion, look at the hot hatch market falling on its arse.
I needed this video as a reminder that I'll never be able to replace the ones that I have currently with something similar if I was to sell them and I do hope you yourself get a chance to jump back into an s2000.
Great video and discussion points!
My step dad has a 2007 ap 2 s2000 turbo making 600 wheel hp and he got into a hit and run and they totaled the car and it’s getting fixed right now
Shame to hear. I'm glad to know it's being fixed to see another day !
Yeah I sold my 2004 ap2 track/ street setup with ( roll bar, kw v3, rpf1 wheels, baffled pan, hardtop etc.) for only $14,000. Thought it was a ok price at the time. This was right before the pandemic thinking one day I’ll buy another. Now in 2023 they are between 20k to 40k ridiculous. Guess I’ll never own another one without feeling robbed. Yes never sell your s2000 😭. The guy that bought it lives about three miles from me too 🤦🏻♂️
Have mine 11 years now it’s coming with me to the grave. I’ll
Be posting my story soon!
OK thanks. I'll [continue to] keep your advice. 21 years since I bought mine new. Was tempting to sell when the selling price was at highest. When someone asks if I'll sell it to them I will do so at the original sticker price. I think that would make me feel pretty good about it.
Never had any of the problems you described and still has original brakes & clutch at 90,000 miles. I have a lot of fun with it but know how to treat and maintain a car, being a mechanical engineer.
The reason I would sell it? Basically, I've aged faster than the car. Driving for more than an hour in a car is less appealing now and sometimes downright painful. I realize this will be my last stick shift car, maybe last ICE. I continue to cherish every moment.
plus simple solution will be find Abarth 124 and drive it - in some scenario it will be much better
I've wanted one for a while... when they first came out I did not like them, but it grew on me over the yrs... then I got a chance to test drive one... have wanted one ever since but I haven't been able to snag one. I hope I will someday...
Sold my white 1997 R33 GTR V-spec due to financial crisis back in 2008... I swear, I was heartbroken. Sold it for €19,000 and yeah look at them now 😅
Said to myself I needed a fun car due to I injured my back and couldn't ride my motorcycle anymore (2018 Ninja 636). So I sold my Ninja, again heartbroken and now drive a 2010 Civic Type R FN2, due to Covid-pricing it was €9000 😒
I want a S2000 but I don't know if I should spend €25-30,000 here in Sweden when everyone and their cat is pushing for EVs, I might not get my money back from the FN2 Type R nor the S2000 later.
I'm lost. Should I hold on to my Type R for a few more years before we get e-fuel, cheaper performing EVs (but but no noise!) or hydrogen going? Or should I simply take the hit and once again be heartbroken and sell it but go + - 0 now, rather than later when I might not get anything more than scrap cash for it?
You raise a lot of solid doubts. Every country will have a different stand point on how soon combustion engines will phase out. I believe your country is much more progressive than Australia when it comes to EV's. If i was in your shoes i would base the decision on the upcoming laws that may prohibit combustion engine vehicles. If you believe they won't be phased out in your lifetime then buy an s2000 if you can comfortably and hold on. I wouldn't worry too much about your Civic FN2R. They will increase the older they get so hold that too if you can. Its starting to happen here in Australia because they are quite scarce. All the best !
I am a proud owner of a 2000 S2K. I am have been an owner for my S since 2003. I have had a a bit of hardship while owning this car and let me tell you, it is already 20 years since I owned this car and still never sold it. Single with roommates, getting my own apartment, getting married, purchasing a home, etc this car still stayed with me. I never even put it up on the market. TBH, I just hate the process of selling a car, this is the main reason why I never sold it. The second reason, since this is a weekend car, I don't drive it as much. So why even own it? But once I do start driving it, it reminds me why I love it lol. I have no plans on selling, meaning I will not go out of my way to find a buyer but what I would do is entertain is someone offering. Either way, I am sorry for your lose and thank you for reminding me why I continue to be a proud owner of a S2K.
I had my AP1 from 2008-2014 and I regret selling it myself!! I too thought that I could easily find another one easily- but boy was I so wrong!!! Guys, listen up to this video!
I'm not sure how much the shipping is to Australia, but I bought mine from the UK and had it shipped to Italy. The UK S2000 market is lagging a bit. Might be worth a look.
Just go get a s2000 before its too late 😊
I'm looking. don't you worry XD. I'm playing the long game here.
This is random, i bought my s2000 in mid 2017 as well and had to sell it near the end of 2017 as i owed lots of bills and i couldnt afford the $190 loan every week, i payed $16,000 new Zealand dollars for mine and sold for $15,000, still to this day i really regret selling it, now they are triple the price, the gearbox was my favorite thing about the s2000, just the way it shifts, if nobody has owned/driven one you wouldn't know.
Im moving to the uk in 3weeks and the s2000's are very cheap there still, seen a few of them lately for sale for £4000-£6000 so ($8,000-$12,000nzd) or ($7400-$11,1000 aud) so i am 10000000000000000% saving up to buy one this year or ill wait for 3months then get a loan to buy one then i will never ever ever ever sell it again. I will only be living in the uk for 12months then ill move back to new Zealand as thats my place to be ill be bringing the s2k back with me. My 2 cars i want to buy over in the uk is a s2000 and a ek coupe, then k24 swap the coupe, awd and turbo. That will be my life complete.
Try a FD2r, its not a convertible but ticks all the boxes.
I currently own a 2000 S2000. Bought used in 2002 with 20,301 miles on it as a weekend fun car. Have 30,563 miles on it now. Rarely drive it. Have had plenty of fun/semi rare cars and motorcycles but nothing this much fun. Ever! Every former S2000 owner says the same as you. The one car they never should have sold.
I had a 02 AP1 with all red interior that was silver. Completely stock with BBS forged wheels and grippy tires. I miss it sometimes. I should’ve probably kept it
2002 one prior owner AP1 under 69K miles. Bought for $14K USD in 2012 and it has appreciated at least 80%. Bought it with 55K miles and haven't put many miles on it after the first 3 years of ownership. It is a special car and the AP2 isn't a real s2000 although it is a refinement over my Ap1, but I wanted what Honda engineers envisioned and not some watered down compromise for the US market. Sorry, but that is a fact. KEEP YOUR s2000.
At that price it seems like a steal. But who knew a car price bubble would emerge. You clearly made some good decisions !
I do wish that Honda would have named the AP2 the S2200, matching the approach they took with the S360, S500, S600, S800, and the S2000. Ironically, Japan was the only other market than North America to eventually replace the AP1/F20C version of the S2000 with the AP2/F22C1 model.
I had a black ap1 sold it and got me a rio yellow ap2...got into mountain biking and sold the ap2 for a tacoma in 2018. I finished paying off the tacoma and guess what? I just bought a red ap2...... I'm keeping this one 😂
I was surprised at the season opening day for cars and coffee this year, by how many people I could hear say "S2000" as I cruised in and checked it out after I parked it. When I bought this car 8 years ago it was mostly for mistaken for a Miata. It has shot up to double what I paid, even after almost doubling its miles from 18k to 34k.