@@LMP19870 It appears when you exert your elbow joint (bones and muscles both) repeatedly. It causes thing from irritation to sharp pain whenever the joint is moved.
Yeah, it's bad when you go to the doctor for pain and they tell you that's just what getting older is, stuff breaks down and you hurt all the time. Exercise is important!
@@OrbObserver Exercise is, indeed, important! But, be careful! The problem started because I was being dumb and wouldn't drop the workout for a bit or alter my routine enough when something was feeling off. I'm not young enough to just ignore everything, anymore. Grip strength and forearm exercises are good for tennis elbow/tendonitis rehab/prevention; learned from my physical therapist.
@@OrbObserver Just remember that any injury will be more likely to be permanent, the older you get. As a 20-something you can basically bounce back from anything, but once you cross 30 even lifting something wrong can mean a torn rotator cuff and a decade of pain. Luckily any little bit of exercise is good for you, compared to none.
Another doctor gave Botan a huge reality punch too. I forgot what it was all about but the fearless lioness obeyed. I wonder if a doctor can also do the same to Kaela. Kaela’s immense sleep deprivation will get her one day.
The plot twist: The doctor is one of her fans, trying to steer her towards the safer route under the guise of medical explanations. While also gaining the ability to call her old without getting shot.
Not even a plot twist tbh lol In Japan Hololive and especially Marine is so well known, there is probably a very high chance the doctor recognizes her voice
@@mindflair3732 There is also a high chance that she just told the doctor to begin with. I mean, its a doctor specifically addressing her vocal chords problem. He has to know what kind of lifestyle she leads and what exactly she uses her voice for in order to help her. Also, doctors are bound by patient-doctor confidentiality, so in theory he/she cannot legally tell anyone about it.
aww, poor maririn, she's still young! she just needs to take some actual time to REST and stop working so hard, she's a fantastic artist, so she could easily do silent art streams.
That outro music... I had to double check your archives to see if I was recognising correctly, and it seems I'm about a week late, but eyy welcome back!
I at certain point of age that I would stop caring about it too much and start enjoying at watching those other "younger" people getting older and anguishing over it.
A lot of Asian countries hold women to stricter standards when it comes to age. Until a couple of decades ago, it was still commonly said that women who aren't married by 20 were spinsters.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but your age doesn't really necessarily reflect your body age. Like when I was 23 years old, I had a body age of 16, but when I entered high stress jobs around 24, I got significantly got worse for wear and had body age of 38. And I assume vtubers in Hololive is taxing to the body if you have many gigs.
She jokingly even stated her requirements if we want to marry her. Even dumped an anchor on us when it came to her sister. The anchor representing responsibility.
Senchou, I love you. Please rest properly, and maybe consider seeing a specialist and a voice trainer. You're not young anymore, but I still want you to be around for many more years 😭
@@赤ゲキ Damnit, I hate it when they don't indicate that new clips are of old content, especially for a serious topic like this. What clickbait. Thanks for letting me know!
This was that time period when Senchou had to go on break for 1 month. During that time period, she was not truly resting. As in like just stay in her room. If she has to go out, she can but she can’t do things that are physically demanding. She tends to speak in that “Mochi” voice which is what caused her throat to feel sore in the first place. It’s totally fine if she speaks normally but, well, you know what happened after that.
Using your voice properly is an important skill that can be taught and trained; there are specialist dealing with that. This isn't as much about how you sound but how you make your sounds; Marine always sounds like she's speaking non-stop, even when inhaling - this is a skill in itself but supposedly very bad for throat and voice cords. It's supposedly best to speak only when exhaling moderately-fast, as in slightly fast than minimum to make sound. I'm by no means expert but I sure hope Marine and others in Hololive has had one which "taught them how to speak long without straining their voices"!
As a doctor, generally speaking, I always advise people take care of themselves. While this is obviously something that can be followed at any age, I do find that your late 20s/early 30s are a critical time for it. You really... *really* want to look after yourself entering that time bracket, or you're in for some rocky 40s and on. It's always interesting to put things in perspective for people because they tend to see the gestalt, and not the individual parts. If I'm talking with an older patient, they're sometimes taken aback when I say "understand that your coronaries are 68 years old" and so on and so forth. Apologies for the mini rant!
Louis CK has a great bit on doctors about this related to ankles/feet. There is a point where doctors will just be like “I can’t do anything. Your is just old and shitty now.”
Don’t they have Vix over in Japan? But anyway resting the voice not talking actually helps but I don’t see her having the discipline to not talk for 24hours
She could rest her vocal if she spoke a another langauge. Or at least spoke like an old japanese man, slowly and calculated rather than this gattling gun gibber.
Japanese doctor, its small, just rest Western doctor, you will need pills, and pills for the side effects of the other pills. Then pills for the side effects of those pills
Not ashamed to admit that. One day, you will cross over to that Era too while we would be in our 40s if you are in your 20s currently, our 50s if you are in your teenage years currently.
@@sjth2497 We’ll never know behind the scenes. And here is the thing. Based on what I witnessed, at least in my country, unless both are streamers like iHasCupquake and her husband Red, or both are VTubers, we won’t know, chances of them being married is low. Not impossible but low. I attended one wedding ceremony when the groom said if his bride did not agree to the marriage back then, he would have continued playing video games. So at the very least they would have boyfriends but even then, they will hide it so as to not stir up those Parasocials.
What kind of shit doctor tells a 30 year old they're not young??? That is young. I guess they could say you're not a teenager or in your 20s cause some health issues change, but mostly you're still quite young at that age.
I'm getting hypertensive patients in their 30s, kidney stones in the 20-30s. 30s aren't young anymore in the sense you are not immune to illnesses that typically occur after 50. Urban lifestyle has a lot to do with this.
It always needs context, young in terms of what. 30 yo is young in terms of general fitness, ability to achieve things etc. However in terms of your body's ability to recover from injury or overuse it is definitely not young anymore, and that is probably what the doctor wanted to convey. Take care of yourself, this is the only body you got.
Nah, you hit 30 and year after year you feel your body is slowing down. It takes longer to warm up for exercise, wounds take longer to heal, you become more sensitive to diet, you require more sleep, etc. You've basically reached the plateau and will start declining closer you get to 40.
After years being 17, marine finally reach 18.
She grew up so fast... 😔
17 for like 583 years 😝
18 years old, season 1
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:v
18 you say 😈
Oof. I feel that. When I got confirmation on my tennis elbow, last year, the ortho was like “yeah, this is one of those ‘getting older’ problems”.
Apologies if i sound rude, but what's this "Tennis Elbow"?
@@LMP19870 It appears when you exert your elbow joint (bones and muscles both) repeatedly. It causes thing from irritation to sharp pain whenever the joint is moved.
Yeah, it's bad when you go to the doctor for pain and they tell you that's just what getting older is, stuff breaks down and you hurt all the time. Exercise is important!
@@OrbObserver Exercise is, indeed, important! But, be careful! The problem started because I was being dumb and wouldn't drop the workout for a bit or alter my routine enough when something was feeling off. I'm not young enough to just ignore everything, anymore.
Grip strength and forearm exercises are good for tennis elbow/tendonitis rehab/prevention; learned from my physical therapist.
@@OrbObserver Just remember that any injury will be more likely to be permanent, the older you get.
As a 20-something you can basically bounce back from anything, but once you cross 30 even lifting something wrong can mean a torn rotator cuff and a decade of pain.
Luckily any little bit of exercise is good for you, compared to none.
It's okay grandma we love you anyway.
Hag enthusiasts: this ain't a problem for us.
That's like 99% of the hoshou ichimen so baba should be fine.
Reality Punch from a Doctor. Poor Marine.
Another doctor gave Botan a huge reality punch too. I forgot what it was all about but the fearless lioness obeyed.
I wonder if a doctor can also do the same to Kaela. Kaela’s immense sleep deprivation will get her one day.
@@赤ゲキ Kaela's doctor: get some help
The plot twist: The doctor is one of her fans, trying to steer her towards the safer route under the guise of medical explanations. While also gaining the ability to call her old without getting shot.
Not even a plot twist tbh lol
In Japan Hololive and especially Marine is so well known, there is probably a very high chance the doctor recognizes her voice
@@mindflair3732 There is also a high chance that she just told the doctor to begin with. I mean, its a doctor specifically addressing her vocal chords problem. He has to know what kind of lifestyle she leads and what exactly she uses her voice for in order to help her.
Also, doctors are bound by patient-doctor confidentiality, so in theory he/she cannot legally tell anyone about it.
"Marine ur not resting! I just attended ur concert and tuned in to ur livestream days ago!!!"
Finally Marine as reached the age of perfectly matured for conoisseurs.
Poor Marine. Senchou is in her best Years!
I ain't old until I can retire which is at 72!
Ha! Retiring, that's a good one lol
You guys have jobs with retirement??
She to the doctor to be healed, but instead received critical damage!
my eye doctor reminds me I'm old every year
I do hope Marine properly adjusts her voice so as to not strain her throat. Health is important!
Senchou is young in our hearts.
aww, poor maririn, she's still young!
she just needs to take some actual time to REST and stop working so hard,
she's a fantastic artist, so she could easily do silent art streams.
We will love grandma Senchou no matter how old you are! xD
Ahhh great idea someone make a TTS for marine to type with!
Marine is timeless
That outro music... I had to double check your archives to see if I was recognising correctly, and it seems I'm about a week late, but eyy welcome back!
I at certain point of age that I would stop caring about it too much and start enjoying at watching those other "younger" people getting older and anguishing over it.
To be fair to Marine, we start to decay after the age of 25 after that is all downhill from there.
Correction: 30
Correction: 100
Correction : 16
Dude, you will decay even in your teen years if you don't take care of yourself...
@@PEDROGARCIA-qj3gr I've been a walking zombie since before I turned 30. I hate this world. Hololive makes it bearable
But her being old is part of her charm.
Senchou is my favourite GILF
*HSM Tries It™: Bugged Reality Mechanics (COPD Edition)*
Emotional damage
Interesting, I'm 4-5 years older than Marin but my doctors always tell me "Well you're still a young man..."
That would mean you are 21-22 years old which is Indeed young
@@txc9795 no, I'm 34.
A lot of Asian countries hold women to stricter standards when it comes to age. Until a couple of decades ago, it was still commonly said that women who aren't married by 20 were spinsters.
It's japan we're talking about, you are already considered old at 20
Correct me if I'm wrong, but your age doesn't really necessarily reflect your body age. Like when I was 23 years old, I had a body age of 16, but when I entered high stress jobs around 24, I got significantly got worse for wear and had body age of 38.
And I assume vtubers in Hololive is taxing to the body if you have many gigs.
Reality check for the both of us Marine
granny.... come to me granny!
Hey, the grandma is MY wife!
My babe is as young as she wants to be
Rest your voice Marine but dont let the doc upset you. Age brings wisdom.
i'm beginning to realize marine talks so fast but she also repeats the same word 2 to 3 times every other sentence
She is a motormouth when she is excited especially. I had to set the speed settings to slow down her talking speed.
I love the way she talks though. I love her passion! I just wish I was fluent enough to keep up!
If a doctor said it, it must be true.
The legendary pirate is never dies even if she already an hag.XD
Doctor used Face Reality. It was very effective.
Marine needs an AARP membership.
We will old with you senchou
I am still older than her so she is forever young in my heart and eyes ahha
The age of 30 is in demand!
Oshi for life.
But then I'm old now too.
(In a robotic voice)From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me
She doesn't have much time left if she wants babies which she wants 3
She jokingly even stated her requirements if we want to marry her. Even dumped an anchor on us when it came to her sister. The anchor representing responsibility.
@@赤ゲキ plus whoever that man may be you are going to need a ton of stamina to get those 3 kids
@@omardiaz5842
Ironically enough, Senchou is well known for her lack of physical stamina.
At most 15 years, not bad of chances.
i like marine BECAUSE she isnt young. surely she knows that there are countless of us that prefer her that way
Wine only tastes better with years
Good painting tho.
Uwaa, nani could dekiru ever guess that ?
Yeah, that's just how aging works. Even if you look fine externally, your health tends to be more fragile and problems will stick around longer.
Senchou, I love you. Please rest properly, and maybe consider seeing a specialist and a voice trainer. You're not young anymore, but I still want you to be around for many more years 😭
This was actually back in 2022. But it doesn’t change the fact that she (and we) are indeed getting older.
@@赤ゲキ Damnit, I hate it when they don't indicate that new clips are of old content, especially for a serious topic like this. What clickbait. Thanks for letting me know!
I think 17 years old is pretty young :D Don't break Vtubers age doctor!!
OLDGANG LETZ FUKIN GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Grandma senchou
lol its a fact for everyone though. no matter how young spirited we are, our body when past 30 will start having some problems here and there
This was that time period when Senchou had to go on break for 1 month. During that time period, she was not truly resting. As in like just stay in her room. If she has to go out, she can but she can’t do things that are physically demanding.
She tends to speak in that “Mochi” voice which is what caused her throat to feel sore in the first place. It’s totally fine if she speaks normally but, well, you know what happened after that.
Using your voice properly is an important skill that can be taught and trained; there are specialist dealing with that. This isn't as much about how you sound but how you make your sounds; Marine always sounds like she's speaking non-stop, even when inhaling - this is a skill in itself but supposedly very bad for throat and voice cords.
It's supposedly best to speak only when exhaling moderately-fast, as in slightly fast than minimum to make sound. I'm by no means expert but I sure hope Marine and others in Hololive has had one which "taught them how to speak long without straining their voices"!
Senchou’s Hagmaxer fans when they find out that Gura is over 9000 years old: 🤩😱🥳
When I realize I am 27 ............. Oh, umm 17
As a doctor, generally speaking, I always advise people take care of themselves. While this is obviously something that can be followed at any age, I do find that your late 20s/early 30s are a critical time for it. You really... *really* want to look after yourself entering that time bracket, or you're in for some rocky 40s and on. It's always interesting to put things in perspective for people because they tend to see the gestalt, and not the individual parts. If I'm talking with an older patient, they're sometimes taken aback when I say "understand that your coronaries are 68 years old" and so on and so forth.
Apologies for the mini rant!
It really be like that tho
Still younger than me 😂😂
Obachan
I really hope she (and other holomems) doesn't retire because of her aging voice. I'd love to keep hearing her even if she sounds hoarse 😢
Uh oh, so does that mean eventually the fact she's aging could harm her voice? Wouldn't she have trouble because of that? That's quite sad.
Louis CK has a great bit on doctors about this related to ankles/feet. There is a point where doctors will just be like “I can’t do anything. Your is just old and shitty now.”
❤😂
17 Season 3
Don’t they have Vix over in Japan? But anyway resting the voice not talking actually helps but I don’t see her having the discipline to not talk for 24hours
She could rest her vocal if she spoke a another langauge. Or at least spoke like an old japanese man, slowly and calculated rather than this gattling gun gibber.
...
Japanese doctor, its small, just rest
Western doctor, you will need pills, and pills for the side effects of the other pills. Then pills for the side effects of those pills
japanese doctors don't have patients who are obese and live extremely unhealthy lifestyles like in the West
"Western". We're not a monolith mate.
Oops you're addicted to opioids now. Teehee.
@@NotASummoner you must be German with that sence of humor
You mean American doctors specifically, not all western countries.
F to the 30 years old gang, I'm sorry for you guys you are OLD
Not ashamed to admit that.
One day, you will cross over to that Era too while we would be in our 40s if you are in your 20s currently, our 50s if you are in your teenage years currently.
I am pretty sure she is already above 35 IRL and is already married but she is still really funny 😂
What making up things in dreams does to a mf
The only ones I know are actually married is korone and mio
@@CoFFee-uw5sv
Via information from doxxing or from their “other lives”?
I hope marine is married and has children since she wants them.
@@sjth2497
We’ll never know behind the scenes. And here is the thing. Based on what I witnessed, at least in my country, unless both are streamers like iHasCupquake and her husband Red, or both are VTubers, we won’t know, chances of them being married is low. Not impossible but low.
I attended one wedding ceremony when the groom said if his bride did not agree to the marriage back then, he would have continued playing video games.
So at the very least they would have boyfriends but even then, they will hide it so as to not stir up those Parasocials.
Who is this doctor? I just want to have a word with him about insinuating my Senchou is old
Ah, you must be from Neverland too. I guess Senchou left Neverland.
As years pass by, one can say that Senchou is… slowly going out of season.
So Marine was feeling down like two and a half years ago... How does that matter to anyone now?
It’s about getting old. Avoid it as we like, we are getting older every single second that has passed.
What kind of shit doctor tells a 30 year old they're not young??? That is young. I guess they could say you're not a teenager or in your 20s cause some health issues change, but mostly you're still quite young at that age.
I'm getting hypertensive patients in their 30s, kidney stones in the 20-30s. 30s aren't young anymore in the sense you are not immune to illnesses that typically occur after 50. Urban lifestyle has a lot to do with this.
It isn’t though.
Over 30 is not young, in fact some things start deteriorating at 25.
It always needs context, young in terms of what. 30 yo is young in terms of general fitness, ability to achieve things etc. However in terms of your body's ability to recover from injury or overuse it is definitely not young anymore, and that is probably what the doctor wanted to convey. Take care of yourself, this is the only body you got.
Nah, you hit 30 and year after year you feel your body is slowing down.
It takes longer to warm up for exercise, wounds take longer to heal, you become more sensitive to diet, you require more sleep, etc.
You've basically reached the plateau and will start declining closer you get to 40.
I love her regardless