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- One of the most common genealogy myths that gets passed down from generation to generation is that someone in your family believes they are part Native American. It might be true, but it might not.
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As a professional genealogist, I wish I had a quarter for every time I heard this from a client...and it's ALWAYS a Cherokee.
I'm not a professional such as you but I've noticed that anytime Indian heritage is discussed it IS ALWAYS a cherokee grandmother that they're descended from. Maybe it's different west of the Mississippi.
Mary Hegeman lol
Amen. I'd be a rich girl by now. Then when they do a DNA test, they are genuinely angry and confused that it doesn't show up. "Did ancestry lose my Cherokee DNA??". I'll bet they get this question on the DNA results all the time.
Your a professional genealogist? I have a question for you. My ancestry dna shows me as being 19% Native American. I read somewhere that people do not inherit exactly 25% of their dna from each grandparent. My father is Mexican. He told me my grandfather, his father, was yaqui. I am trying to figure out if it is possible he was full blood or not. My mother was Anglo descent so none of my native ancestry comes from her. They are all English and Scottish background.
And always a princess. All these people that have supposed Indigenous backgrounds descend down from women only. I never hear the story with a chief or any man for that matter. It’s like picking and choosing your myth. They can only be related to Native Americans IF that relative is royalty and a female. Not only racist but sexist too.
Every white person I have ever met was 1/8 Cherokee and their great grandmother was a princess, not even joking
Stealing everything even culture.smdh
White people are pathetic
I was born a 8th mother is a tribal member at atleast 1 parent maternal & paternal every generation was on both sides :) they're not a 8th that means they had s tribal member parent. Thanks
@dave john none of that is true. There is no proof
Ong frfr they love to cling on every race
Everybody in Alabama was told this growing up apparently.
And Georgia
Iv been told my fam is ly is kin to Jesse james so makes u think but could be true or mabey a lie nobody knows but dna
The first question that came into my head is if the Cherokee tribe had princesses at all. The fact that they didn't proves this is a myth.
Lol
And Arkansas(minus the princess part)
My mother claimed to be a Cherokee descendant but my AncestryDNA says no Native American DNA. I researched her tree and found out her distant aunts and uncles married Native Americans so the family legend got mixed up.
catzand dogz ohhhh!!! That makes sense!
The other thing is being a descendant doesn't mean the DNA will show up. It depends on how far back, for instance a lot of natives that survived diseases did have children with white people. However, those kids grew up and ended up having kids with more white people, and so on and so on. SO eventually the European DNA just buries the Native DNA
Lord Penguin, but it keeps the African DNA though. So evidence of stories passed down were buried but DNA does not lie thus far and is even advancing. Thanks for sharing your expertise though.
@@danielw.8356 so true! The Native American went back to my ggggrandmothers, ggggfather-paternal side. GGGGgrandfather/ggggrandmother on maternal side-it gets whitewashed after several generations.
@@crystalbishop6971 I'm pretty sure you have no native ancestry you are black stop talking about your mythical history no one cares
Omg I hear this all the time! Working at a Native American owned casino and being full Navajo from the Navajo Nation in New Mexico. A lot of guests come up to me and always feed me the “Cherokee princess” line. It’s very funny. Mainly because there aren’t royalty titles in Native American cultures.
I'm 25% Dakotah and 1/8th Nakotah in lamens terms I'm Sioux. and yes I'm enrolled and but I'm am also 1/8 French and 1/4 okinawan and 1/4 Filipino
I'm Cherokee, but no one in my family has ever said Cherokee Princesses, because the tribe had the Daughter of a Chief, but no such thing as a Princess.
I'm 54% Native American from Mexico..that's pretty high if you ask me
Ok thanks for sharing, keyword from MEXICO. and yes it's a little over half of your DNA. What is the rest of you? Let me guess some African with Iberian and Europa. Thanks for sharing I saw your mention of this twice so I just had to respond. Thanks again. Do tell though.
MeL W oh, maybe you can show me the difference between U.S natives and those from the rest of the continent..😂😂. When the genetic testing has proven us all to come from a single group sharing a genetic lineage dating back 40,000+ years..let me guess, you're European who's ancestors immigrated here in the last 400 years trying to speak on a persons history as if your comments held any water..do tell though
Salai Niccolo, you stepped onto my web but then deleted your response. Why is that? Do you have a legit question? Hmmm Let's see... Do you mean the rest of 2 Continents, or do you speak of an Eve in Africa? You have to remember that we were taught to see through a Eurocentric view. Then you must have realized that the Indigenous to the 2 Continents share common ancestry. However it's not like a magic wand, that one day you discover that your DNA reveals that OMG I'm Native American ... but in reality what really had changed? You're still Latino, with a DNA mixture of peoples from all over the World. My original response/point that I was attempting to make is that through we may share some DNA, but Culturally we have drifted apart because of views, loss of Culture, isolationism for some, taught shame, education, Born on that side of border, etc. That is my point, it's not like the Jaguar just noticed his spots that he always had. I'm actually nice and seek dialogue in understanding human nature of those that are on a journey of discovery.
MeL W I've never deleted any response to you, what web are you referring to? I've always known about my native genetics, being that my mother is full native, my great-grandmother fluent in Nahuatl, so In response to the jaguar finally noticing his spots, your assumption is flawed and incorrect. You typed as if there were a difference in natives living in the U.S and those living over the recently created border is both ignorant and absurd. Once more, can you show a difference either culturally or genetically to defend your position, or do you just like being a condescending dick on your off time?
Hello Senor Niccolo -- Here is what you wrote verbatim, but I don't see them here do you? Anyway you wrote: Salai Niccolo replied: "Mel W oh, maybe you can give me the difference between US natives and those from the rest of the continent...(2 crying laughing emojis were inserted here) When the genetic testing has proven us all to come from a single" [End of quote] So is your claim now that you didn't write this? To answer your first question about what web. Look closer and you might see my red hourglass and web. I also should've said I'm nice but only to those that are respectful.
I'm 46% Native American. However I believe my 46% Native American is from Central America. So I seriously doubt I have any Cherokee ancestry.
730 Mŷ Cherokees weren’t in Central America? I didn’t know that
@@jaqueswilliams5192 Lol no.
If you followed history
The indigenous people are actually the same people
Just different language and culture
They all followed the land bridge that connects Russia and Alaska
They all parted ways and spread throughout the americas
They are not the same but
But the same people
@@WorrizEcko Right
Learn your ancestry
Ask your relatives or try to estimate
Learn where your family lived, learn the tribes that lived thier and then figure out
sounds like they watched disney's Pocahontas one too many times
My grandmother flat out finally admitted that the family acencetory lie is to cover up because of the "one drop rule"
This is everything
100%
What’s the one drop rule?
I think the reason why so many people want to claim Native American heritage is because it's almost gone. In a wierd ironic twist of history, Americans want to feel truly American. It was damn near genocide what happen to Indians. & today, both white & black, wish to carry on a part of that line.
Ed Lo yea thoes kind of people don't want the native Americans fo die off
Mexicans and Hispanics are probably the ones left with heavily native blood
I feel it, it really is ironic though because for the people who claim the few percent native ancestry can tell people of there own race and get recognition for it but, the natives full blood and mostly who look the part get shitted on by everyone, I mean an NFL team is named the REDSKINS, anyway enough of that see ya.
@@carolinas305 So inaccurate, see even Mexicans want to be native.
N8VRebel420 lmao many Mexicans have native blood. Read about some history dude
I'm 15% Italian (Dad)
35% Russian (Also Dad)
50% Native American (100% Navajo Díne Mum)
That's really cool! The Díne tribe is really incredible, that's a really amazing family to be apart of.
I'm half Diné too!! I love my tribe so much
I find it funny that it s so common you actually have to make a video on it.
I was always told I had Native American ancestry way back growing up. Took the test and was 100% European lol. I wasn't terribly surprised, but Interestingly my full siblings did have a bit of Native American DNA (and yes they came back as my full siblings genetically), but apparently none of that DNA made it into me. Interesting!
What's interesting is why so many white people don't care or act ashamed or embarrassed of their European heritage.
@@jamesmitchell8398 English, French, and Spanish(Europeans) treated the Native ppl and the Africans so horribly I'm ashamed of the British heritage I have. Also the same thing happened to be xandralinest89 while my sibling and cousins on the same side tested with Native American, I ended up only having European which I should have received at least 2-4 %. I even have some Native Features. So its possible that DNA is not fool proof also.
@@crystalbishop6971 proof that white privilege doesn't exist. An actual white person us trying to identify with a culture they have no connection to. 2 to 4% of your ancestry is very small. Bye
And how did the native Americans treat each other? Let me answer for you. They warred with, conquered, and took land from other native Americans, sometimes committing horrible atrocities against them, up to and including genocide. Yes, Europeans conquered native Americans and “took” their land. But the native Americans did the same thing to each other for thousands of years before any Europeans showed up. Quit romanticizing native Americans.
baw5xc it does not matter WHAT the Native Americans were doing to each other on their own land. That didn’t give them the right to INVADE their land. Stop making excuses
I did a test believing I was part indian (whole family has been in northeast Oklahoma since the 1800s) and it turns out I’m %3 African
As a Native American, I've become sssoooo sick of hearing this same line from dozens and dozens of people over my 42 years. 1st off, just between the U.S. and Canada alone there's over 500 recognized tribes, 2nd thing that irks me is that it's always a Female ancestor named...... I came up with a joke saying that it's Impossible for One Cherokee Woman to have spawned the entire modern day White population in just a few generations. 🤣🤣🤣
500 in just anglo america? Huh, in latam there are about 830ish tribes, I'm surprised the numbers aren't that far off from each other.
My father and his mother and his grandparents on both sides were Mimbres apache, but because I'm pale (mom's white) People think I'm bullshitting. "another white girl thinks she's a native." I'm like no really, my dad's dark skinned native. "Why are you so pale, then?" I'm mixed, I inherited from my mom my skin tone. "You should be a mixed tone" That's not really how it works... it's not like putting cream in coffee.
Kold Rift Similar story here. I'm way more NA but I have the same skin tone as the guy in the video. I had dirty blonde hair and green eyes as a child. Both of my parents are over half NA. My dad looks like Geronimo. My mom is light skin. Her mom was dark skin NA. Her father was about 1/2 NA. He was light skin. My mom was 3 of 13 siblings that came out light skinned the rest were tanned and brown. All my siblings are darker than me. Even though I'm light skin I still have NA features.
You may look more Caucasian than NA but not exactly 'white'. You may have some other NA features even though you don't have the skin tone. It's incredible how genes work.
Yeah, my sister is darker skinned and looks Egyptian or Armenian. (and has been creeped on by old middle eastern men at the mall, unfortunately). I have native features too. Cheekbones, jaw, and hair. People think i'm russian or armenian. It's still annoying though. to be told I'm wrong about my own ancestry, from people who barely know their own.
Kold Rift and Joe Mama Have either of you done ancestry dna testing?
I am an enrolled native american in my tribe, and there are no more prejudiced people than other Natives against their own people!!! you cant believe how cruel they can be to each other with the "what tribe, how much, whose your relatives" it is sad they think everyone is from the "wannabe" tribe. and it is insulting! if your DNA proves it then they have no grounds to stand on.
Well I'm white skinned too but my fellow latinos wouldn't doubt if I told them I was Mayan. Truth is americans and indians here are less knowledgeable on these topics so they don't mixing an Indian with a white will produce a brown baby. Chances are your father is a mixed Apaches with spanish so that's why you turned so white due to spanish colonization. But if you say so then you must have indian facial features and dark hair. Do you?
I'm an enrolled member from The RED LAKE BAND in Northern Minnesota a unique closed reservation and we've been here since the 1700's so I don't want to see comments saying ourbloodline here is dwindled to Europeans we've fought wars for this land and our communities are still strictly native American no outsiders no state police or state governments, we work strictly with the federal government.
Awesome..what are your two haplogroups... both of mine are native...I totally agree with you we are the only real Americans..everybody else should leave...try to remember this if a man has both haplogroups being native American he is only part European threw forced colonialzation which is totally un cool... that would be me..
Y’all fought along side of the Europeans it’s clear Mexicans love white people just like true Africans love them
DNA inheritance is also random as Ancestry does a good job explaining. So the breakdown by simple math shown here, although a good approximation, is not always the reality. This person could end up with no Native American or 5-10%, it's completely random.
Very true! You just never which pieces your parents DNA you received.
So shouldn't my sister have some of that Native American in her? My mother is Acadian and it showed up for both of us but she didn't have any of my dads Native American in her chart - further, it showed her as a possible 1 st cousin instead of my sister.
The rumor is that my dad isn't her dad.... did this confirm the rumor?
I got some family very German same mom and dad one boy blonde blue the other olive and brown eyed..what is a native American it could be a myth..
My parents never talked about their ancestors with me, and I had people say that I'm white because mexicans are descendants of Spaniards, when I look nothing like a white person.
Took my dna results.
91% native american
3% spanish
1% Portuguese
1% Irish
1% Greek and Albanian
2% African
1% northern Philippines
So much for "basically white" and "you're technically spanish"
As an African-American I was told that we had native ancestry, which made me skeptical. But when I took the DNA test, it told me told me that I didn't have Native DNA, but Southeast Asian ancestry, I wonder how that could have gotten lost through family history?
A lot of indigenous people have southeast Asian because that’s where we originated from.
Their descendants explored along the west coast of North America. As early as 1000 BC, they had covered nearly the entire continent. It is not known when the first people arrived in the Americas. Some archaeologists (scientists who study the remains of past human lives) believe it might have been about 12000 BC.
@Jesse Marcel “First, it shows that Upper Paleolithic Siberians came from a cosmopolitan population of early modern humans that spread out of Africa to Europe and Central and South Asia. Second, Paleoindian skeletons like Buhl Woman with phenotypic traits atypical of modern-day indigenous Americans can be explained as having a direct historical connection to Upper Paleolithic Siberia.”
“It’s always Cherokee”
Ikr, like it wasn’t the second largest tribe in the country.
My great grandfather is supposed to be the full Cherokee and I've seen pics but I've always had my doubts. My mother always claimed to be 25% and she would always get welcomed when we visited Cherokee, NC. But even then I've always been skeptical as to what my heritage actually breaks down to. While I know it wont be definitive, I just ordered a kit and curious to see the results. I expect to be of mostly European descent but it'll be nice to actually have some kind of guidance or something.
Edit: my results came back as follows, 82% England, Wales, Northwestern Europe. 13% Ireland and Scotland. 3% Norway. 1% Native American, 1% Cameroon, Congo, and Southern Bantu peoples. My ancestors had fun to say the least.
MisfitPunish3r So your mother was about 2% Amerindian and your great grandfather was about 8% Amerindian and was mainly white. Yeah, I think the story passed longer than the blood did. This is fairly common for white Americans that have the Native American story in their family. At least you had 1%. Many of those with Indian stories come back with 0% or like 0.2%. One guy I know told me he was part Native American and I asked him how much did he think he had and he said 40% Indian blood. So I talked him into getting a dna test. It came back with 1% Native American. Same as you. And he literally thought he was nearly half Native American. and what’s a trip is, Mexicans usually turn out to have the results that these whites thought they’d have.
@@IslenoGutierrez Where I think you might be missing something very important to genetics is that is isn't an exact division. Just because they estimated (key word) that I only inherited 1% (even though my range went up to 2%) of American Indian DNA, it doesn't mean my great grandfather wasnt 100%, it just means I didn't inherit that much of the DNA.
@@IslenoGutierrez and I still had living relatives with American Indian DNA that lived on a reservation and I have the documents to prove it. So even if by AncestryDNA sample size and testing, that I only inherited 1-2% DNA, it doesn't change the fact I have American Indian in my ancestry and family tree. Also my identity and self-worth isn't directly tied to my ethnicity like it seems to be for so many others.
MisfitPunish3r I know that it doesn’t necessarily mean that you inherit the exact half, because DNA is random. But I gave an example of a rounding to exactly half for argument’s sake of simplicity. But even with that taken into consideration, your great grandfather would still have been mostly European for you to get only 1%. DNA is random, but not that random. 50% of his DNA would be passed and so on down to you. Whether it be off by a couple percent is one thing, but going from a 100% great grandfather to 1% in you is extremely unlikely. In my opinion, the story passed longer than the blood, like most Americans with these stories. I’m guessing your grandpa was was in the 6%-10% range for Native American DNA and was mainly white and your closest ancestor to be full blooded Native American was around your 5th great grandparent, which is the most common in Americans with those stories since 1% Native American is common in white Americans.
MisfitPunish3r Documents and proof of reservation residence is independent from DNA. You can live in a reservation with a paper trail and be only 25% Native American. Matter of fact, this is common on rez’s across the country. And since the USA doesn’t have language identifying mixed bloods into their own separate race from Native Americans or whites like there is in spanish as the word mestizo, most people that are connected to Amerindian culture or people will identify as a native rather than a mixed race person or white. This also explains why many people with great grandparents that were genetically only partially I dian were identified as Indian by the family and down the line it gets told as a “full blooded Indian”.
You may have Native American ancestry in your tree and your family in small amounts or more down the line, but you as an individual have a very tiny percentage of Native American ancestry and certainly not enough to go around claiming you are “part Indian”. I’m an American of Spanish ancestry from Spain, but on my results I got 1% Native American also (1.112%) But I never tell people I’m part Native American, ever. Because 1% is nothing and not worth mentioning. My response is “I’m an American of Spanish ancestry”. My advice is the same for you.
Do you guys have a video on ancestry or Aboriginal Australians?
Both sides of my family, nearly 100% European, migrated to America in the late 1600s/early 1700s. They moved into North Carolina, Virginia, north eastern Tennessee area and eventually southern Kentucky (where most of them still are). I'd always been told Cherokee was in my lineage, like many others, but it did not show up on my dna results with 23 & me. But, then I got into genealogy on ancestry, and it was interesting to see how easy it was to trace back to a direct 4th great grandmother who was Cherokee! I'm sure mine had phased out in my dna, but it proved true through research! I would definitely recommend doing genealogy research with your dna results, it's SO INTERESTING to see how they match up! Besides that tiny native american branch, my results were pretty accurate!
I'm from Australia family is Scottish and Irish did DNA result came up with a drop of Native American still stuffed on how that could be
I have a genetic genealogist friend who said that most of the time for folks of European descent, especially if they don't live in the Americas, it's Ancient North Eurasian. So, it's easy for folks, especially Americans to get carried away. Thousands of years ago, some Siberians went east to the Americas, the others went in to Europe. I have European relatives who have 3% NA and there's no evidence they ever set foot in the US>
Shao Pinko yea right that's interesting most likely how it happened but also shows my family from Scotland going to Nova Scotia so wonder if that's the link but most likely what you said as I never herd of it before but I did hear as a kid family member was Spanish but if true or not I don't no lol
Shao Pinko true a lot of russians & eastern europeans have tiny bits of "native american" % funny thing is Americans with these backgrounds when taking dna test be like "Imma a real American I have Cherokee in me" 😂
Meme LDN Then your "native american" is most definitely from your russian-siberian side. Look up russian lady dna results from momondo project here on youtube.
Also could be a result of tge slave trade. Maaaannnyyyy were sent around the world as slaves from tbe Americas
Literally ever Texan claims they are part Cherokee nobody says Caddo or Comanche which is more likely.
Ironically they're more likely to be related to indigenous people of Mexico.
What is more accurate your website or DNA.Land because my results differed slightly on both companies?
Every DNA company uses a difference reference panel for comparison to generation your ethnicity estimate.
Very interesting. Back in the day if you were of mixed race it was more socially acceptable to label yourself as a "Cherokee Princess" rather than being half Mexican or black, which is where the myth comes from.
My Great Grandma wasn't an anglo saxon whitey, and she was apparently very secretive and never really revealed her actual race in her lifetime, and according to my family, her birth certificate was never seen by them and they didn't know who her father was. This spawned the "part Cherokee" myth in my own family and it just kinda snowballed from there. It's far more likely that my Great Grandma was half black or half non-white Hispanic. For some reason I am one of the only people in my family that inherited racially androgynous looks. People ask me if I'm mixed all the time because my facial structure is not typical for a white person even though I'm very pale , but I really have no proof for anything so I just say My Great Grandma wasn't white and talk about the "Cherokee Princess" myth. We are all mixed anyway.
My great grandmother was the daughter of a great German chief!
I really enjoy the geo-communities feature that was recently added to Ancestry. Seeing all those clusters of people in a certain region will help out in tracing the Native tribes that resided in that area. Especially in the Meso-American regions.
I just sent in my DNA sample and patiently waiting for the results :) I been so interested in where my family came from for so long. Being Mexican and growing up we were told my family is mostly Spanish and being young and naive about the history of Mexico that was really exciting to know and in school when I was in the 3rd grade in my social studies book in the Native American section about how Native Americans built their homes the Pueblo Indians and their houses got my attention the most and I thought “hey they look and live just like the ppl from Mexico “
and their food is sorta similar.
and it was around this time I learned about the Spanish conquest in Mexico and the indigenous ppl there were mixing with Spanish. Fast forward to my junior high years I was content that I had some indigenous ancestry (without solid evidence lol except for my tan skin, dark brown hair, I’m the most tanned of my siblings ) I was pretty proud of it. But somehow my family always spoke against having Native Ancestry like it’s some curse or whatever. At 18 I saw my grandmother pic when she was a baby and her parents looked like a biracial couple. At first I thought my great grandmother looked African but looking closely she had Indigenous features and my great grandfather looked European. He had the classic mustache that curled at the end
So hopefully my Ancestry dna can confirm my indigenous ancestry :)
So are you native American?
Why is being part Amerindian even desirable? Why not find out & cling to whatever European culture one descends from. That continent produced some of the most forward inventive great societies the world has ever known. It's not the negative this world tries it's best to shame us into believing as if all others were virtuous until a more powerful culture came along.
$5 Indian
THANK YOU !
lets not argue about which cancer is worse. @@OnettBoyXD
OMGOSH my grandfather told me that exact thing when i was in the 5th grade! lol he said my great great great grandmother was a cheroke indian princess lol i had never heard that before so when i saw the title of this video i had to click! i figured out by the time i was a little older that he had lied to me but i think i told a few people that before i figured it out, and was laughed at! so this is cool info thank you!
My ancestors points toward the Navajo of the Taos Pueblo. Where would I look to research this?
Here is an article that gives some tips for researching Pueblo ancestry: www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Pueblo_Indians
I'm mik'maq and I always hear people say this that they where because of a native princess and like you said we don't have princessses
My parents don't have any Native American DNA but I have some, which have connected me to cousins living in America, which are related to me through DNA but not with any of my close family members. (eg: sister brother and parents). Not sure how that works, does it skip generation? Or would it be in their DNA but the percentage is untraceable due to the lower percentage? It confused me because I have more ancestral regions which I don't share with my close family.
That is unusual. Have you and your parents all tested at AncestryDNA?
Ancestry we all got tested through Ancestry DNA
When Ancestry tests for ethnicity, we run the test 40 different times and show you the average. But, if you click on your Native American ethnicity you will see the entire range from all 40 tests. What is your range?
Ancestry it says 1%
I believed that I have this connection due to my Scandinavian DNA but if it's unusual would you have an answer to this???
Geez, No one wants to claim Comamche? My husband is
They were BRUTAL
They gave them white folk the business. They didn't intermarry like Cherokee did
@Mr.ManMakesLotsOfCan I know the Spaniards bred with the pueblo, but I don't believe the Comanche were as receptive
I'm a typical Euromutt with a little Pima ancestry apparently. I still don't get how that could happen given that I'm mostly Irish and Polish and my ancestors were all poor immigrants. Then again I also have a little bit of Spanish so maybe some Spanish guy with Pima ancestry intermarried into my line I'm guessing?
So my 6th great grandparent is black! Sweet lol
I know this is an old video but if this question could be answered it'd be extremely helpful, if my great grandma and grandpa were both native (Blackfoot for g grandma and Cherokee for g grandpa) but my mothers dad was german on my mom's side, my grandma on my dad's side is 3/4ths Shoshone and Cherokee but I don't know who my grandpa's dna is (like what ethnicity).. What would that make me?
Hi Dakota - Each person gets 50% of their father's DNA and 50% of their mother's DNA. But, the 50% of the DNA you get from each parent is not a 50/50 split of their DNA. It is a random 50%. So, there is no way of knowing which pieces of which ethnicity you may have inherited without taking a DNA test. Also, unless you have an identical twin, none of your siblings will have inherited all the exact same bits of DNA from your parents. Sure, you will have DNA in common (about 50% if you are full siblings) but you won't have the exact same genetic makeup. Does that make sense?
@@AncestryUS yes actually, thank you
So all my genealogy points to me being related to a man that died in the battle of horshoebend in 1814 who was said to be Cherokee. He's on the ancestry battle list as Cherokee. But my DNA doesn't see any native DNA. Is 1814 too far back?
Hi there, Jess! Thanks for your question, Ancestry will generally show you information going back around 500 to 1,000 years in time, but anything beyond that might not be quite so clear without further research and investigation. You can check out this support article to help you with researching Indigenous ancestry: support.ancestry.com/s/article/Researching-Native-American-Ancestors. You might also find this guide quite useful too: support.ancestry.com/s/article/Indigenous-Americas-Region. We do hope this will help but you can of course get in touch if you have any other questions!
I have heard there is work being done to try and be more distinct about Native American DNA. What are the odds/likelihood that any time soon there will be any developments to say more clearly what part of the Americas DNA comes from? My fathers side of the family is all Kaqchikel as far as we know - but I am sure that historically that there was intermingling of peoples between different regions of the Americas as well and would love to see a more detailed DNA picture one day
AncestryDNA now has about 30 sub-regions under our Native American ethnicity.
My Mom and I took the ancestry dna I expected distant native American ancestry .my mom maternal great great grandmother is said to be part native American and her paternal great grandfather is said to be part native American as well but my mom native American ancestry is less than 1% which surprise me I thought she will have more. So I when took ancestry DNA I expected no native American in my DNA. I was stunned when I saw 2% native American in my DNA still a very small percentage but it was there. Meaning that one of my great great great grandparents has very high significant amount or self identified as a native American and come to find out my father's great grandmother is part native American her father was a mixed race with mostly native American ancestry
This is so confusing. How can DNA get lost so quickly? Especially, if DNA in modern people can be traced hundreds to thousands of years back to Asia, Africa, and Neanderthals?
Anyways,
My results came back with 16.4% Native American, 1.4 Asian. This was a total surprise so, naturally, I have begun to dig. The Asian seems to be tied to the Native American and those who may have crossed the Siberian ice bridge. I have come across a possible ancestor on Ancestry, a 5th and 6th grandmother, who is named Sarah (Sasah Cherokee) Finch and whose mothers' name is listed as Martha (Cherokee) Finch. Yet, Martha mother is listed as being born in England. The father is unknown. Sarah's husband is also questionably Native American based on his name, Thomas Phillemhaya Ainsworth, and a document connected to him stating he was a Choctaw man. Yet both his parents have Anglo-Saxon surnames.
I am really open to any insight about this information. I thought this video was a little misleading about how DNA is passed down. I do understand that it was a general explanation and in reality, DNA is much more complex.
For you to have that much Native American DNA, you likely have a great-grandparent who is full-blooded Native or a couple of great-grandparents who are part NA. I wouldn't expect that one 5x great-grandmother would contribute that much to your DNA makeup. Are either of your parents still living? You might want to consider getting them tested. This will help you understand which side of your family that DNA is coming from.
My genology goes back on both my Mother and Fathers side to one great great grandmother with Cherokee, and another great great great grandmother. So would I be getting combined dna results from that? So in other words would I be like 12% or somthing like that.
It would depend on how much Native DNA each of them had and then how that DNA was recombined in the generations leading down to you.
+Little Penguin son?
Wow, so my 1.1% Ashkenazi Jewish is then like that far back. This was very helpful.
I am 100% Native American in my DNA test and I am of Mexican origin born in the U.S.
Which indeginous Mexican nation are you from
I'm a Metis citizen in Canada (one of 3 recognized aboriginal groups) on my mom's side. At least 6 of my 5th great grandparents were full blooded (verified Menominee, Sioux, Ojibwe/Cree, Iroquois, and Salteaux) on my mom's side. On my dad's side, my great great grandmother Mary was adopted by a white family in the late 1870s after the Battle of Fort Robinson in which around 150 Cheyenne were massacred, and 4 to 6 children were adopted, including my gg grandmother. I have never taken a DNA test but I'd like to because my grandmother's father on my mom's side is unknown and we'd like to find out who he was. My maternal grandmother, who looked quite native (dark hair, eyes, and a dark complexion) didn't know her dad but she and her sister both look very native so we're wondering if her dad was possibly first Nations or Metis, since my great grandmother was part of a historic Metis community when her first two daughters were born in the late 1940s. I'd never identify as indigenous but I do acknowledge my indigenous roots, and I do feel proud of my Metis heritage from Red River Manitoba. My family all identified as Half-Breeds or F. Breeds, a slur for Metis, on census records up until the early-mid twentieth century.
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Through out the history of the Cherokee Nation, they never had royal families or princess. However, the Cherokee and the other Five Civilized Tribes were direct descendants of the ancient Mississippian Culture which was a civilization of inter-connected kingdoms and chiefdoms with local or regional ruling dynasties of royal families, but that was over 450 years ago.
I remember reading a long time ago (on the site of one of the companies that does dna testing) that third cousins (who should share around .78125% of their genes if they share any and are the equivalent of a great X 5 grandparent) have a 90% chance of sharing DNA in common and it's virtually guaranteed that more closely related people will have some DNA in common (I can't remember the range that was common for each degree). I don't know if that's true.
That is correct. If someone is a 2nd cousin to your (or more closely related) you will always share DNA with them. But, the more distantly related you are, the more the possibility that you won't share any DNA with that person. So, like your example, you will share DNA with about 90% of your 3rd cousins, meaning there are about 10% of your 3rd cousins with whom you will not share any DNA.
Cherokee princess is code for "light-skined black woman."
0:16 love that! 😀
When people ask me where I'm from. I say parents are from New Mexico and I'm Navajo, Spainard, and Apache. The first thing they say is "I'm Cherokee. My great grandma was Cherokee."
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I have native American my maternal grandma mom's side I looked up the name of Archibald Allen on American Indian registry. Org and his family was register Cherokee
Does ancestry have records to Canada as well?
Mari, Yes, we have many Canadian record collections. Visit our Canadian site here: ancestry.ca or if you have an All Access membership, search by country to narrow down our Canadian records.
I wish this was brought up in the black community more.Lots of our grandparents would say we are part Native American( mostly Cherokee) to hide we have European ancestry from slavery times or that they had an white lover.
I dunno about the USA but in Latin America we Amerindians had princesses. The puruha of Ecuador had toa known as quilo toa or quilotoa meaning princess toa. The Incas as well, roca means prince and ñusta means princess.
Us Mexicans don’t have this problem. Native is a essential to us racially and culturally. 38%-46%Native Pueblo of the Picuris (Mora&Taos New Mexico) and 29- 31% Spaniard, 14% Portugal
My ancestor was White (German immigrant) but married to a Cherokee woman. He was also in the militia during the Trail of Tears. She could have remained in Georgia but chose to go with her father and brothers. The murky part is they had a son but no one is certain if the son (a teenager) remained with the father or went with the mother then at some later date returned to Georgia and the family property. The father by then returned to Germany, married a German woman and returned to America but apparently never saw his son again.
History does get tangled.
Thanks for sharing this insight into your own family history, Tory! 😃
Unless AncestryDNA has changed, why don't you clarify that "Native American" results means native to either North America (including Canada) AND South America? For example, my family's native" percentage is definitely South America. Ancestry should help explain this to people---they get the wrong idea!
When you click on each of the ethnicities in the results, it is clear from both the map view and the description that Native American currently covers all of the Americas.
Ancestry , I'm fully aware of this, but neither your video nor the commercial on TV clarify this fact. As a genealogist I'm bombarded with, "But the Ancestry commercial says..." and I'm in a pickle, trying to explain. All I'm suggesting is that your video or other media clarify what "Native American" results can mean. This video alone continues the misperception of many people who are not familiar with DNA, in that it focuses only on the term as most people in the U.S. understand it.
Thank you for the feedback.
+Living4life58 So the test generalizes Native American without breaking it down to a specific region?
ExtremelyEnragedVikingMohawk Indian That's very disappointing. Thanks :)
I am ☠️. I cannot believe Ancestry ended up making a video debunking the Cherokee princess myth and the native ancestor. You know it’s bad when that happens. Lmfao!!!!
Some White Americans who they have Cherokee ancestry is myth not true, But that is not always the case some White Americans actually do have Cherokee ancestry.
Why doesn’t ancestry have a session dedicated to native American ancestry ?
I am 42% Native American according to my last test. I know that it is Yaqui from Arizona and Sonora.. I’d like to know more
You see my parents were the opposite of this, I’m like I could have something interesting.
DAD: nah you probably 100% Irish.😂
Hi there Clyde! Thanks for stopping by. Many of our members are surprised when the received their DNA results and most people are not matching 100% with one region (although, it certainly can happen!). We're curious to hear if you've taken an AncestryDNA test yet? If so, did this prove your father right or not? 🙂
@@AncestryUS I haven’t done an ancestry test yet. I’m planning I’m doing one in the future. And I think my pops just didn’t wanna get my hopes up on I’m results.
Hi Clyde! If you are planning it on the future, let us know if we can help you or if you have any questions. You can also give us a call and one of our colleagues will be happy to help you.
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I had made an earlier comment, expressing my disappointment in the fact that Ancestry (especially with it's commercial on TV), gave the impression that Native American results were for U.S. indigenous people, and many people are not aware that native American refers to Canada, the United States, and South America.
HOWEVER, Ancestry has now rolled out "Genetic Communities," which takes your DNA and the DNA of your matches to focus in on VERY specific areas. For example, instead of just showing my Native American percentage (and me trying to guess whether it was from Canada, United States, or South America), Ancestry NOW has that portion of my DNA specifically traced to a certain area in Mexico. Additionally, other DNA matches to that area are part of the "community," and we can work together to fill out that information in each of our trees.
It is a phenomenal advancement, and I am really impressed.
Please excuse my previous comment!
You guys are really rocking it out, and as a genealogist I am getting fantastic results for the people who is tests I administer.
Thank you!
Why always Cherokee, though.
Why not try Navajo, Sioux or Algonquian.
I guess depends on where you live...the west coast is Blackfeet....everyone has a great grandmother that was a Blackfeet Indian around here.
my ancestry showed 57-68% Native American from Mexico, and 1-7% Andean Native. Pretty cool.
I found out thru Thru Lines. My husband has a whole bunch of 5th and 6th cousins that are related to some Indian Chief. Plus I had it verified by my husband's grandfather.
I got 24% Native American, but I don't know what tribe exactly or how to find out. I'll look into that.
Start researching the records going back one generation at a time. Keep searching! The answers are out there.
AmericanZombieDos Where are you from and your family?
Are you latino by any chance?
AmericanZombieDos if you don’t know the tribe or raised native you aren’t truly native
Kassidy Essence Rose nonsense. if a black kid was adopted by whites and didn't know his parents would he stop being black?
I’m pretty sure my grandmas native, she has tried to hide it but still kinda talks about it
At the LGM (18 000 years BP) no further movement was possible and the ancestors of sub-artic Americans wer locked into a Bering refuge with drift down to one genetic line A2. South of the ice, people carrying groups A, B, C and D could continue to develop diversity in language, culture and genes.
Awesome. I have 1.59% from GEDMatch, and 1.1% from DNA.Land. But, Ancestry found nothing. I'm waiting on 23andMe. What they did find was from Mexico and South America. That's not even from my mom's side. It's related to my dad's side who was from the Caribbean. I did hear that my mother's paternal grandmother was Cherokee. But, I knew that my paternal grandparents had Carib ancestry descended from the Arawaks.
Me: "I bet I'm Scottish, Italian, Portuguese and Arab. My surname supposedly comes from Galicia!"
The DNA test: *Pushes me into the Amazon river and tells me it's the family swimming pool
Combine two parents ?
I've never been able to understand why people think that you can't rely on dividing and fractions when it comes to determining ancestry.
In part, this is because each of us inherit 50% of our father's DNA and 50% of our mother's DNA. However, we do not get a 50/50 split of their DNA. Instead, we get a random 50% of their DNA. So, for example, if your father was 50% Italian and 50% Irish, you could, technically, get all of his Irish and none of his Italian. Or vice versa. Or any combination thereof. Does that make sense?
@@AncestryUS So it's possible in theory, but is it likely? Isn't it more common to get around 25% (like 20-30% range) of each? For instance my mother is 50% of one ethnicity and meanwhile my father is 0% of that ethnicity, but I still came out with 25% as was expected, no surprises.
I've seen that pattern with my friends and others who post their results online too, so I would be very interested to see someone who for instance, had a father who was 50% Irish and 50% Italian, but inherited 0% Italian and 50% Irish from him.
I really would like to know how much Native American I am (my profile may entail that I'm white but that's just a filter and it was a sunny day). Both of my parents are Native American so it'd be interesting to see just how much I actually am.
The Cherokee didn’t have a monarchy
White poeple never say a Lakota princess or a Pequot princess or a Unitah princess for example..... intresting
How much would my mom have if her grandfather was full Native (tuscaroan)
And her grandma grandma was half Cherokee.
Have her grandfather and great-grandmother taken an AncestryDNA test and come back with those percentages of Native American?
Someone's personal biases has nothing to do with the truth . Nobody said they weren't using words out of context for their personal reasons .
I know as it has to do with Afro-Americans the most common way our ancestors mixed with Native Americans was being enslaved alongside them. The peak of the Native American slave trade in the USA occurred between 1670 to 1717 declining steeply after that, as Africans became more so preferable as slaves. The Early Florida peoples suffered the most from this trade, that being the Apalachee, Timucua, Calusa, Mayaimi, Tequesta, and Jeaga following them were the Taensa, Tunica, Houma, Chawasha, the Arkansas, the Midwestern Kaskaskia, Miami, Peoria, & Pawnee, the several of the Algonquian groups including the Shawnee, the Choctaw, Chickasaw, & Cherokee, the Tuscarora, the Guale, the Creek, the Mocama, and even the Lipan Apache of Texas, the Siouan groups of the Carolinas. Although decent proportions of these peoples were kept enslaved in the states, an even larger proportion were shipped to the West Indies.
Also I wanted to mention the reason why in Afro-Americans when the dna is found it tends to be smaller than anticipated or simply non existent is because of the time frame when the Native American slave trade was at it's peak, that being 1670 to 1717. As a result as for those Afro-Americans who did encounter full blood Native Americans to produce prospective offspring would have been through the late 1600's, all the way through the 1700's to the early 1800's. I stretched it out considering peoples life spans, & also quite often preferred Native slaves to keep in the States if kept, & not sold to the West Indies were women & children(boys & girls) while it was more common to sell captured adult males to the West Indies. What's quite interesting my Native dna has been identified as Mayan. This is no surprise seeing that Mayan dna has been found considerably among the Creek people, even certain subgroups of the Cherokee, Mayan & South American Native dna.
Records make it so hard to find any documents stating Native American in my family. Most records that I have found state race as white, I was only able to find an aunt who married in the family as Indian. Oh these brick walls...
My wife’s GGGG grandmother wasn’t a princess, but she was Nancy Ward. NanYeHi
I do have a Cherokee Great Uncle but I'm not related by blood. Never got to meet him before he passed but I have his wedding topper in a box somewhere idk what to do with it lol
Thank you for taking the time to share this insight with us, Meggsie! 😃
I got 2% native
P Hightower still cool to know you had the ancestry
Actually it was my great great grandmother was full blood Cherokee I have pictures of her with my family back to that time. No genealogy record. I am completely immune to poison ivy, poison sumac, and poison oak. I tan very easily doesn't seem like something that would come out of European DNA I probably just need to get DNA tested.
Another thing to note is that the DNA test may not show a lineage because they don't enough DNA...Case in point, They (ancestry.com) just recalibrated the DNA and a lot of people are getting new results. So, either way, just trace it back using the paper trail for the truth if you can.
Take away the Royalty (Princess) part and none of them would claim native. My sister works at san manual reservation and she says it's quite sad. Because of the casino there are a lot of very rich native american Alcoholics living on the res. Many areas on the res are alcohol free zones and even so it's very common to see the Natives passed out on the side of the road, on foot of course. Most of them are Broke and live from Gaming money
I alway roll my eyes at folks. My adopted grandpa was legit native. I’ve always loved native culture.
My dna test came as 13% native. I’m not officiated and adopted. My long lost aunt is helping me and her kids with the paperwork. She gave me the numbers for a great grandparent in the Cherokee tribe.
Now my ex and his family have those legends of being native. I’ve always rolled my eyes. I can’t wait to see my kids dna results to see if their dads side is true.
I've had my DNA test done a few years ago it's turned out that I'm 3.4 Native American Indian so I asked the Company what that's means than I asked them why no white in me . They could not give me no answer to that only 1percent was in me can help me on this ?
Did you take an AncestryDNA test? What are the percentages for each region in your Ancestry DNA Story?
@@AncestryUS Yes I did all it's read that I am Native American Indian no white in me
@@AncestryUS I took another test thinking it's was wrong all it's telling me I'm 3.4 Native American Indian no white showed up for Pete's sake I was born in New Jersey not on the Indian reservation I would like to know how did that happen?
@@AncestryUS Thank You for your Video I love it I'm praying you can help me p.s I don't have enough money to look up my Family tree
@@darlenecanfield6139 - When you look at your AncestryDNA results, can you tell me exactly how each ethnicity region reads and what the percentages are that are associated with each of them?
I decended direct decendent via DNA test the test with your company
what is really amazed me is that level of intelligence on this topic equal to a high schools 6th grade but dude looks little older....
The saddest part is that everyone thinks "Native Americans" are only in the United States region. I am Native American, but my ancestors come from Michoacan, Mexico. Apparently Central and South America doesn't exist in the United States map, if it did, they would know they aren't the only Americans on the Continent. Also, I love how Canadians think they aren't American at all, as if somehow they live on a magical Continent that has nothing to do with America.
Old comment but I'm with you, I'm native american of Oaxaca, Mexico but nobody believes apparently I'm "just mexican" oh "how are you native when you're mexican?" It's funny how they can tell I'm "mexican" by my native features but can't tell that what they're seeing are native features.
Do people *actually* use the phrase “Cherokee princess?”
MICHAEL DUKES yes they do and it’s mega cringe
I'm sorry what was he talking about? I was lost in his eyes...
Our family story is that the cherokee Indian grandmother was orphaned or abandoned as a young child and adopted by a white family. At 15 years old in 1859 she married my ggg grandpa in southeastern Virginia. A great aunt wrote down a conversation with her Aunt who described the Indian grandmother as having coal black hair and the brownest eyes. I myself have brown eyes, black hair and a sun tanned complexion. Used to be that people would often ask were I was from... nowadays they just assume I'm Latino. One of these days I'll do the ancestry DNA... see what they say.
I traced my connection through birth and death certificates to a grandfather on the Dawes rolls. That is the only way to verify. That is through public records.
Boy you're a 2 dollar indian. Ha lmao loser, I'm actually half Mayan.
Cherokee Nation pushed strongly education among its citizens: we had over 160 one room public schools, many missions from various religions, two seminaries male and female and also a cherokee orphan asylum. So the oral story mentioned above may have happen but highly unlikely within the tribal jurisdiction of the cherokee nation from 1838 to 1906.
s a k u n i yes. I am 24% native and i am hispanic.
All Latinos, from Canada, USA, Mexico, and South America, are indigenous to the American continents. The USA in an effort to minimize Native American power limited the definition to just those people born to the tribes of what is now the USA. They further limited the definition by codifying the definition such that one has to be at least 8% Native American AND have written documentation of lineage in order to qualify for the benefits of Native American heritage. Therefore, if you are Hispanic/Latino then you are indigenous to the Americas and hence Native American.
My great great grandmother was fully Blackfoot
nice graphics
to be fair "daughter of the tribal chief" is a bit of a mouth full compared to "princess "