Watch Geneavlogger's video on Jabari's family tree: th-cam.com/video/_GTXpPXam4U/w-d-xo.html Check out Jabari's channel here: www.youtube.com/@FromNothing
Perhaps now maybe the Black Africans can truly believe that they are Africans, not Israelites. The DNA of Africans have generally 20% European DNA, 76% African DNA, and 4% other (Native American or other DNA).
It's not interesting. It's horrifying. You PAY Private companies to do what amounts to limited DNA testing and give them your PRICELESS DNA code forever. Unless you have a specific medical issue (rare genetic disorder etc) then giving your DNA code to a private company forever is terrible. How do you think these companies earn money?? They use your DNA as a MONETISED, Tradable commodity which you have given them FOREVER to use as they see fit. It's stupidity of the highest order. And this guy is spruking it. Crazy
It was a privilege working with you, thank you so much for doing this! It was an amazing experience and I feel much more connected to my ancestors now! I love the video and the very clear and easy to understand breakdown of everything. Now I have to get to Jarrett's video :)
@@Anwar157 "Not backed by science" according to who? I've done my research, so has Matt, and so has the scientists who work for these companies. What are your sources that say otherwise? I'm already aware that some oft he results are based on "probability" not "guesses." The sites actually say as much. They don't claim to have 100% accurate results.
@@Anwar157 So a Magazine is your source? I'm asking for peer reviewed scientific facts that refute it. And again, none of these tests claim to know that you are exaclty "4% Irish" for example. Ancestry DNA straight up tells you that the results are based on probability and if I'm for example "22% Nigerian" and I click for more details, it'll give me a fuzzy region that tells me that I could be anywhere between 2% and 50% Nigerian. These tests know their strengths and weaknesses and are very transparent about them.
Thank you. I have recently contacted My Heritage. I was interested in finding out about possible Jewish ancestry. Thank goodness African descendents can be helped also. I am African American. I have been called out before for using that designation. However, I plan to stick with it until I can get more specific testing, I am a teacher. I wish that I had had such data and research in 1971.
Even the title "From Nothing" hurts. Glad if DNA resting will help. One young woman I know was able to locate a tribe, and went to meet her distant relatives. They gave her a coming-of-age ritual and a name. She wears her tribal name on a necklace, and America is a better and stronger place for that connection.
They go to North Africa and South Africa because of socio economic reasons because those two regions are more developed than the rest of Africa. Like to be frank when you become accustomed to western conveniences it's a bit complicated to live in a somewhat backwards community without conveniences. Moreover South African black history and African American history has got so many parallels so on a social level they can resonate with one another more than any black groups on earth.
Of course the big question is what do you mean by "best"? For what is the customer seeking? If the customer is _identity shopping_ then Ancestry does the job (at least for Americans) better than most of the rest of the companies.
And if the customer is looking to do actual genealogy, then the customer should test at as many companies as possible, or transfer results if possible. Cousin connections are far better for learning about one's past than _identity labels_ .
@@AkashaKeepsItReal Umm.... kind of. You are making it sound overly simplified. First of all it depends on where in Asia. Yes Siberian people (and Step Peoples sort of) have similar genetics, but not always. So some DNA may be similar, but there's also a ton of differences. I feel it warrants doing more than two videos (depending on the subject of each).
I'm Asian and Pacific Islander, and I got 2 results from my Asian side (Middle Eastern and West Asian), and 3 on my Pacific side (Polynesian, Melanesian and Papuan). This is despite those areas being incredibly diverse.
I used CRI Genetics; they broke down by percentages the ethnic groups in Africa that my DNA corresponded with as well as that the most recent generations in my family came from the Caribbean. Which helped me discover that I was adopted.
Even as a person who's ethnic ancestry is already served great by Ancestry, I'm really glad to see a creator like you acknowledge and educate about the different strategies other people may need to use to get similar information.
Im an african (so not an african american). I kinda want to test out these dna tests to see how accurate they are compared to what I know off (soninke)
Would love to see you do something like this for other continents as well. It seems pretty clear to me that continents like Oceania and Asia are not given the same focused breakdown as Europe is. I have a friend who is middle eastern and was very disappointed at the lack of detail in her dna results, while I had a dozen European countries on mine.
The problem is that the DNA companies are comparing tests within their databases. At this stage the major companies have low representation within Asia. Until such time as DNA tests become available and used in Asian countries, then results will be poor.
Ancestry DNA makes no sense. I'm Māori (Native to Aotearoa New Zealand) and I understand that all Polynesians are descended from the same migration but their new "more accurate" update literally changed my results from Māori to Hawai'in. The migration path of Māori didn't even come from Hawai'i
Matt, I’m a huge fan of both and Jabari so this collaboration made me so happy!! Thank you for answering so many of my concerns from your previous videos on genealogy!
This is a great explanation. Easy to understand. I'm African American (and South Asian) and tbh alot times this research can feel so overwhelming. It can bring up a lot of emotions, intergenerational trauma, and horrific history. But still, happy to see more of us doing this.
Your people sold your ancestors into slavery. You don't need a DNA test to start dealing with that fact. Then you can begin your journey into knowledge and realize if that didn't happen, maybe your ancestor would have been ended in a ceremony for the King and your family line would have ended right then and there. People who have intergenerational trauma have bought into some real dumb ideologies.
From someone who works in clinical genetics (aka genetic testing in the healthcare setting), thank you for bringing awareness to the disparities in available genetic information among virtually everything that isn't white European!! This issue doesn't only affect ancestry data but, more importantly, the analysis of results from genetic testing. Although we like to think about genetic testing as providing clear answers, but this is not always the case. In clinical genetics, there are three types of results: positive (pathogenic or disease causing) variants, negative (benign) variants, and variants of uncertain significance (VUSs). Most VUSs turn out to be representative of normal human variation and are not correlated with any adverse health conditions, but a large part of the classification of VUSs is based on available data about the specific genetic change, meaning most variants will only be classified as benign when they have been seen enough times in the general population. So populations who generally have less access to healthcare (or the disposable income to pay for it), are FAR more likely to get results with a number of VUSs, which is frustrating for both healthcare providers and patients. To combat this, lots of companies and healthcare institutions are teaming up to sponsor programs to do genetic testing on those who are underrepresented in our current data (especially groups that are minorities in the United States).
I was told by a friend who works in the anthropology field that another issue is all of the in-between relatives are left out of the DNA equation count, ie. your paternal great-great-great-great grandfather's mother and her mother and father and etc.
I’ve tested through Ancestry already, but now I’m going to follow through with the rest of your recommendations. Thank you and your and Jabari’s work is greatly appreciated.
Did you try and upload Ancestry data to other sites? I’m curious if I upload my Ancestry test to living DNA would it give me Y chromosome and mtDNA information?
I'm a pardo, that means I'm a mixture of white, black and everything else, so in my experience with DNA tests what I can say is Use every single calculator available free in the internet, gedmatch, dnaworld, everything. Anyway, I have from indian and japanese to native and central asian to every corner of europe and africa, definitively funny to see how diferent tests interpret my results
Didnt realize I could upload to My Heritage for free. I'm Jewish and did the ancestry DNA thing before I learned about your channel. I've been thinking about doing that other test, cause you recommend it. Now I can do it for free.
As a linguist, Africa is one of my favorite continents. Thousands of languages are spoken there! Bantu languages are super interesting in how their grammars work, and Mandé languages are surprisingly easy to learn, at least for me. Not a bunch of tones to learn like e.g. Yoruba, and the grammar is really simple. Plus they have their own natively produced writing system, N'ko. Looks like this: ߒߞߏ ߦߋ߫ ߛߓߍߛߎ߲߫ ߞߊ߲ߡߊߛߙߋߡߊ ߟߋ߬ ߘߌ߫ I'm learning Bamanankan (a Mandé language) so that I can write letters to my Malian sponsor child in his own language 😊 I'd like to get him some textbooks in Bamanankan, in N'ko script, since most textbooks at his school are in French. Education is power, and everyone should have access to it in their own language.
I'm mad that Jabari actually has the African Y-Chrome Marker E-M2. I wish I had that. I have Rb1 so I can't trace my male line back to Africa but to Europe through a Slave-Owner. My mtDNA is L2af1 which I thought originated in West Africa but I guess it is South African. What crazy is that my autosomal is 94.5% Sub Saharan African, 4% European and 1.5% Native American, but I end up with the european marker ONLY being 4% white lol. I like seeing Jabari getting this attention. He deserves it, his channel is really shedding a light on our Ancestor's History before slavery.
@@Lonnell99 It says my European DNA can be found 22 generations ago but its as recent as 2 generations ago. There is a story in my family about 2 Scottish brothers who left Scotland in the early 1800s and ended up in the Caribbean and I'm a descendant of one of them.
@@jamescorvus6709 If I were you I would take all DNA test company because you will get more different DNA results from different company's and also you can take the Y-chromosome DNA from from family tree DNA company they will take you all the way back to Africa Haplogroup A00!.
I'm really curious how you got South African DNA considering slaves were never taken from there but brought to SA. Was it specifically SA or Southern Africa because they definitely traded slaves from Angola.
@@sigco1019 yes it's Southern Africa but among the bantu in South Africa would carry mtDNA from West and Central Africa since they migrated to SA from those regions.
Going with Ancestry's Autosomal test first can be a good decision. Especially if building a tree now and looking for new cousins now is your primary focus. But, if at this point, your main interest is learning the most about your *estimated* ethnic makeup with the most detail, then LivingDNA should be your first choice. Why? Even though LivingDNA results can't be uploaded to other sites, it doesn't matter when you're only looking for the best breakout of your recent (up to about 400 yrs ago realistically) ancestry. In addition, LivingDNA does separate tests to provide a taste of your more ancient ancestry, your maternal and paternal haplogroups. Those haplogroups (sorta like where you fit in on the whole-world family tree and migration(s) group(s). Uploading your DNA results only becomes helpful really, when you've already done a chunk of family history research. Those haplogroups that LivingDNA (and African Ancestry) come from testing a small chunk of your Y-DNA (paternal and only in males) and MtDNA (maternal but in both) which Ancestry doesn't do, FamilyTreeDNA specializes in those areas (but won't add anywhere near enough added insight on ethnic ancestry for the cost) and that African African Ancestry provides with a much greater ethnic focus but also at a much higher cost. If resources allow, I'd go with both LivingDNA and African Ancestors but for a first go, and for less than $100 on sale ($80 currently which includes the $10 S/H) and probably through Xmas. All of these companies review and update their DNA databases, criteria, assumptions, models, etc (and each are somewhat to very proprietary) on a regular basis, year-in, year-out. So don't at any current estimates as being cast in stone (more like jello at best) and instead, expect and celebrate the changes because they should mean they're getting more and more accurate. With DNA it's such a recently developed tool (as is migratory science based on DNA) , we're not even at the Model T stage and for you younger people, the changes will be huge over the next 10 years, let alone the next 50. My Ancestry results have changed massively since doing their test in 2015 but in my case, it's finding DNA matches to help break a brick wall or five that is my priority. My paternal line is so "thin" though that I've had no Y-DNA matches at FamilyTreeDNA since testing in 2017. But I'm getting much closer by building a very rough copy of my great grandfathers family using distant matches found on Ancestry. So part of your decision on what to start with, no matter your ethnicity, is what questions are you trying to answer at this time. For me, if I was looking to pick a first test and my current interest was finding the most details I could about where my "recent" ancestors came from and I'm on a limited budget, the winner clearly would be LivingDNA. If that got me interested in finding more about my family and building a tree, you can start building your tree for free with tons of free resources at familysearchdotorg. There's also a boatload of free videos here on TH-cam to get that part going. There's an amazing amount of free resources out there to find what "paper" may have survived from birth records, the Federal or in some cases State Census, the Freedman's Bureau records and so much more. Then, if I felt that I wanted/needed DNA matches from the by far largest database out there to help answer more questions, then I'd take an Ancestry test and go from there. "Paper" is a great way to start and learn the research side and so much more while giving you time to learn more about DNA as well. One last bit. I'd still buy LivingDNA first, but if I was one who wanted to find living family, whether you want to get in contact or not, then I'd get AncestryDNA as soon after getting Living as I could. You can even build a tree for free on Ancestry and access their free collections and more at any time. I find working on trees easier in Ancestry and you can always access content for free on FamilySearch that requires a membership on Ancestry. Plus, Ancestry recently brought out a new update that lets you separate your DNA matches into maternal and paternal matches which makes it much easier to sort and find potential family. Anyway, I always go on too long but I'm very familiar with most sites after 20+ yrs online/on a computer and another 20 prior and these are great times to learn more. I'd love to be starting now!
You’re missing the part where most of these services are highly bias against those with Afro backgrounds. There simply isn’t enough testing done by your recommendations. I don’t want to take a test just to find out Im “African” or to have every country in western Africa light up. I want to know more specifics as those with European backgrounds are provided with. This is the problem we face as African American, vague information barely more informative than generational wives tales
Thanks for this comment! I'm mostly AA and have been trying to decide which of these to use. Between the video and your comment i think I've figured out out, and I'm excited to get started!
Did Jabari not test at 23andMe? They have perhaps the best (as far as technical understanding) of the "ancestry" and have several groups for African ancestry.
I was really wanting to know about 23andMe test, because that's the one I'm thinking about getting. I'll still get one because it seems its still a decent one that shows good results.
Thank you for the work you and Jabari did for this video! My 13 year old is mixed race, and we don't have any contact with her bio father's family. She knows so little of his family, and has asked a lot of hard questions (where did his family come from, were his ancestors slaves or not, etc, etc.). We know that my family came from Germany, England and Scotland, but for her, it's a big blank. Now we know we have some options when she gets a little bit older to find out some of that information.
Is her dad not around? No matter what the case is if his family knows about your daughter she should ask them. She should be allowed to try asking them anything and go from there. She's 13 and people in his family are a phone call or even a letter away. Sounds like you don't have much communication with him or his family but people change. She's old enough to give it a shot and try to reach out to his family members for the questions she has. Just let her know if their response isn't a good one that it's not her fault and isn't anything she did. Writing a letter might be the start of the answers she's looking for. I'll bet there's somebody willing to talk, you would be the one that knows where to start. Good Luck to your Daughter.
I took my test with MyHeritage. But it was by accident. For some reason I thought it was ancestry lol. I was really trying to build my family tree and MyHeritage had more matches for my European dna than the African. It was pretty interesting because I found some pretty close relatives that my family knew of but they did not know of us. Whoops 😂! I think I’m going to upload ancestry because I’m looking for both my maternal and paternal grandfather’s family. This video gave some pretty great insight.
We are not African, we are indigenous to the land ( Indian) known as turtle island. Trust your elders have the answers. A very small % are African less than 5%. Stop taking the classification your government gave you.
I'm not African American, but panamanian. More than one third of my genome is subsaharian african. My Ydna is european and my mitochondrial haplogroup is american indigenous. My maternal line is maroon from Panama, an admixture of Native americans/Africans. I think my best african description is in Livingdna, because I get Yoruba as my main african link, 13,9% Yoruba. My second best african result is Bantu from Cameroon, around 5,9% but I get Mendé too. My results are linking me to many places of África due to Slave Trade under spanish colonialism.
Do you remember which haplogroup you got? Because I’m literally in the same situation as you. My mother Amerindian Panama and African American father with some European admixture. Wassup cuz
This was so interesting. I'm curious to know why you didn't also use 23andME. I have Igbo ancestry from Nigeria, but I also got a similar breakdown with Cameroon and Mali on ancestry as Jabari did.
I really enjoyed this video! I learned a lot about DNA testing and especially which ones are beneficial for Black Americans. Can't wait to get started on my DNA journey! Thank you!
25 bucks is better than what I was going to do which is just go with African Ancestry...I wanna try it one day, but its very expensive. Thanks for giving me an option for now until I can afford African Ancestry.
I recommend 23andme as an east-african. 23andme gives your haplogroup superclade results for mtdna and y-dna and offers good autosomal test results on par with the other tests aswell as health related info. The geographic ancestry report directs you to provinces/regions inside countries of which other testers were originally from. Fdna is good as a followup to learn about the roots of haplo markers and find mathces with the y-dna terminal haplogroup.
Thank you my fellow east african you have answered my question have been wondering which dna test is perfect for pure african since we don't have data base..
Uploaded my 23 and Me info to My Heritage and Living DNA, it's $29 and $28 respectively to get the ethnic breakdown, and up to a 48 hour wait. Still better than paying full price and waiting 2+ weeks . Thanks again for the advice! ☺
Great video. I wish I had seen this sooner. I purchased a DNA test from African Ancestry. In addition to the cost, I am unhappy with my results. I can only trust that the results are accurate, however, I cannot seem to find much of anything online about the Brame people they say my family descends from. The letter containing my results suggests joining their online community to connect with others. It has been two weeks since I received my results and requested to be a part of their community, but my membership is still pending. The letter also contains a link to an e-book on African History and culture to read for a "deeper understanding of the African countries and ethnic groups of our ancestors." Unfortunately, I saw nothing about the ethnic group I come from. At this point, all I have is an email that links to a letter and certificate to show how I spent $300. For that price, it seems they could at least mail a copy of the letter and certificate for me to frame or put in a scrapbook.
I advise using African Ancestry if your African (I will explain more below). But first a pet peeve with using Bantu. Bantu is a language group consisting of at least 400 ethnic groups. It’s like saying someone is related to a romantic language. It’s silly at best. As far as DNA 🧬 tests go, I would steer clear of Ancestry who now does not allow you to delete your info after being bought out by Black Stone (an asset management company). MyHeritage is alright if you are not African, & Living DNA can only identify dozens of tribes in Africa (despite claiming to have the largest African database which is in my honest opinion a lie (there are others who can identify more tribes than Living DNA). Okay, so African Ancestry I paid for both test for several reasons. One, they automatically destroy your DNA 🧬 after analysis. Many companies sell your DNA 🧬 on the backend to pharmaceutical companies (23andMe sells to GSK), to the FBI (FamilyTree DNA 🧬 did this) or “loan” them out to research labs. Others use your DNA 🧬 as some sore of biological equity to build up value for the company (for a potential sale, cue Ancestry). That is why they are less expensive overall. African Ancestry is independently owned & does not keep your DNA 🧬. This is important as many governments are now attempting to access these DNA 🧬 databases via legal or not so legal methods in order to solve old crime cases. With that out of the way, I chose African Ancestry not only for privacy reasons, but also because you can identify which specific tribe you are related to, which was confirmed to me when I visited those tribes in Africa. Last but not least, several African countries have granted citizenship based upon these tests. Sierra Leone 🇸🇱 does (they granted me citizenship in 2021), as well as Gabon 🇬🇦 & Guinea-Bissau 🇬🇼. That said, I encourage you to do your own research, but I am quite happy with my African Ancestry results.
Not a single case yet out of all these years has been reported of anyone selling or buying anyone's DNA. A lot of very powerful people from Oprah Winfrey to Bernie Sanders to John McCain to Barbara Walters have done DNA tests and not a single mention anywhere has been made of their DNA being sold or bought.
@@apgeneticgenealogylover6601 You should try Googling some of the companies I mentioned earlier, along with their buyers. This was huge news years ago. Did you miss it‽ Yes, DNA 🧬 information was sold, that is a fact that journalists have verified. I am not sure if this account here allows links in the comments (which is why I refrained from posting any), which is why you should Google it.
@@apgeneticgenealogylover6601 🙄 Please tell me you are not this ignorant. Pharmaceutical companies are currently seeking to create their own DNA 🧬 databases in order to perfect their various medications, which is why GSK purchased access to 23andMe’s database. The FBI is also trying to construct their own DNA 🧬 database (police departments too, at least in America) in order to solve crimes “faster,” which is why they paid FamilyTree DNA 🧬 for access to theirs (this was previously hidden & exposed by journalists). This has already been well documented. Where have you been for the past ten years‽
@@Darnell 23andme will ask users if they'll participate in research and then have them answer questions if they consent. 23andme will then group them together and deidentify them and provide them to something like GSK. 23andme is not just "selling DNA" or "selling DNA information" (like what percent European you are) and no one is buying it.
I think it's cool that you partnered with Jabari on this. Many people who are not AA wouldn't even think too much about the lack of resources and/or limitations wr face in this situation.
I am sure the data is organized by country as a result of the way it was gathered. Getting high-quality data from the entire continent of Africa is an extremely expensive endeavor, and it requires cooperation from every country in the study. Each country will conduct the study in its own way, and results are probably also anonymized in some way. It might not be possible to compare results from different countries directly, and even if it is, there might not be enough geographic information to distinguish peoples from within one country. I don't think it's a question of lack of interest. I think these studies are just very difficult to perform. Africa also has the greatest genetic diversity on the planet, which makes interest even higher but the science even more difficult.
Western blacks shouldn't even have to pay for this service given our sad history - the government should pay. Great upload though - very informative but what I need to know is will my data be shared with 3rd parties?
As a mixed race woman, I found the Ethiohelix filter at gedmatch to be very enlightening, also naming specific tribes, like Mbuti and Maasai. 23 and Me also do standard Mt-dna and Y-dna testing, and as I had a brother also test, I got my father's y-dna. Myheritage was fantastic for ability to compare matches to family trees, but had the most divergent ethnicity results of all. It was very accurate for my husband, who is mostly northwest European, with recent European ancestry.
This was very informative. Thank you. I tested with African ancestry before but maybe I should try living DNA as well. I wish African ancestry broke down tribe percentage like Living DNA. Maybe there's a way to upload my results from African ancestry to living DNA and only pay $25?
Great video! I took my DNA test last year through Ancestry and decided to upload the DNA results to Heritage and Living DNA to see if there were major distinctions. My parents are both Ghanaian immigrants and we descend from the Akan people (Asante and Akyem tribes specifically). Ancestry was pretty spot on stating I was 94% Ghana/Ivory Coast/Togo. The living DNA results were a bit surprising. They estimated only a little over half of my DNA was Akan and even estimated 18% for Yoruba which is pretty unlikely given my family history. I'm still waiting for the results from MyHeritage but overall while I'm glad some progress is being made, I think there remains a lot to be desired. Maybe one day I'll submit info to African Ancestry to see how accurate they are.
This is great, my sister was a genealogists and she has passed. Fortunately, she and I discussed DNA extensively. BTW she used Ancestry, 23 and Me, Family Tree and Ged Match. Why didn't Jabari test with 23 and Me?
First of all jabari looks nigerian....second of all, ive seen plenty of african americans get the african ancestry test and they keep telling AAs they are from cameroon ...how can most africa americans be from cameroon? Id rather take the living dna test being the test results match jabaris looks its seems to be accurate..altho i am AA of mostly ghanian descent i would like to knkw what other tribes i possess in my dna
Am I the only one who noticed that he did not do a complete comparison of African Ancestry? To be fair he should add the information about the database and the advantage instead of stopping the review and making his recommendations. In terms of the accuracy of African Ancestry, why would there be a question of accuracy if Jabari’s other results were aligned with results of African Ancestry? I honestly liked African Ancestry compared to the others because I prefer accuracy. The other companies do not have a large African database so just because their results imply “west African” does not mean that they are accurate. Almost all people considered as African American know that they came from west Africa.
I enjoyed your video. I am a black American. When we did DNA testing, we are Nigerian Igbo. We can trace our family to the early 1800s on one side and on the other side the laste 1700s. What we do not know is the first ancestor's name. We want to know the first ancestor. Which company is the best for that? Should we be looking at hapla groups with mt-dna results? So, Family Tree DNA. How do I find the name of the first ancestor?
There are non that will give true results. Do the research and find out how your ancestor got to Africa. Your ancestors were already here and exiled out during invasions and wars. Your ancestors also came here from Europe. There were Black Europeans exiled from Europe during the Jacobite war. Research, there are plenty of resources available with the truth. All Black people did not come from Africa.
thank you for breaking this down as someone with Cape Verdean background and some rumored Moors in the mix (on my moms side, as she understood it) I wanted to see if I could learn specifics. My C.V. ancestors immigrated from the Azores so it gets murky from there. I have a gifted Ancestry kit and am looking forward to this journey of discovery My dad's side is from Ireland/Britain I will plan to upload the results to both My Heritage and Living DNA
From what I have seen in DNA results videos, most descendants of the African diaspora in the USA and the Caribbean will have "Kenyan" DNA showing up in their results with MyHeritage, some to high percentages. This is not correlated with historical facts in the slave trade, so this is very likely a big database bias. There might be some genetic connections with populations in East Africa, but probably through more ancient internal human migrations on the African continent. On the other side, I also noticed MyHeritage sometimes detects subsaharan DNA in some European people (from Europe, not the USA), strangely, it systematically points to Nigeria. Once again, not Senegal, or Benin, or Ghana, just Nigeria. Probably another bias linked to their database. In all, it does not give a feeling of high reliability.
African Ancestry gets constant criticism because of cost and it’s exclusive intent. Geneticists know the tests are accurate. It’s the same test procedure that brought us mitochondrial Eve and Y-chromosomal Adam
@@darkholddoom3275 lmaoooooo he’s saying “me too” or “I have the same question” Also because many Caribbeans were African slaves the same principals apply as for African Americans.
23andme, it identified the island my mother and her family is from and one of the other Islands my father has family in. They don't have a location for the island me and my father is from yet.
Everyone should ask their parents as where you are from, just only four generations the United States was here, meaning most black people are from here. Not overseas. Plus the population in 1600s to 1800s weren’t many, if we would do some research we will find out exactly where we are all from. Remember the names of African American went from Indian to Negro, to colored to black and now African American. I would use this as entertainment because you just might make yourself a non citizen, in a country you have been in for generations.
Thanks for the informative video. I am African -American and have tested with numerous companies. First a question for you, why was 23 & Me excluded from your video? They have both the Autosomal and Mt- and Y-DNA Results. Since I am a woman, I had both my mom and dad take it as well, so we could have his Y-DNA. The interesting thing I discovered was that I'm approximately 78-82% Sub-saran African, however both my Mt- and Y-DNA results were from the people that left Africa. My Mt-DNA haplogroup is I1a1, which originated in the Iran area and then spread up to Europe. My dad's Y-DNA was R-M17( a branch of R-M512 which according to 23& Me is kind of rare and is now found in Ukraine, Russia, Eastern Europe and in Central and South Asia. I have used the following companies for testing: Ancestry, 23&Me, My Heritage, DNALand, Wegene, and GedMatch, which has numerous caluations and tests. I may from your recommendation upload to Living DNA for the breakdown of the African ethnicity. thanks for the informative video.
I wanted to find my mtDNA group more than anything else. I chose My Living DNA, knowing most of my ancestry is British. The results were still surprising, though.
@@AnnDroid877 I already did a dna test a couple years ago with Myheritage (im from Germany), but I'm assuming that they didn't sequence any mtdna (as they don't analyze it anyways) so I would need to actually send my samples to living dna for this analysis, and that i cannot upload my files there. I didn't look at my files yet but I'd probably be able to figure this out
The fun part (only semi-related) is when you send in for tests that aren't supposed to work and you get an unexpected result (female y-chromosome tests for example) As it turns out, Intersex without visible signs is very common.
Whoa! Thank you so much. This video was very helpful. I have already tested thru Ancestry but was a little underwhelmed with the results. I specifically wanted to know more about country and/or ethnic group in which I belong. Great suggestion on what to do from here, and I plan to follow it.
I have tested with 23andMe, AncestryDNA, FTDNA, LivingDNA, and MyHeritage DNA and the best were 23andME and AncestryDNA. I have also tested 15 family members. Full disclosure is my goal is more about building my tree than finding ethnicity estimates. I would never recommend Living DNA and MyHeritage DNA to any African American for ethnicity estimates (if that was my focus). The sample size for African DNA in their database is lacking. This will influence the percentages. Also, for populations who have experienced continental-level racial mixing over the years, as most African Americans living today have due to the barbaric practice of enslavement, more research needs to be done on how that may make our DNA appear to be closer to something else. For me, I believe in the science of ethnicity percentages but don't think it is there yet. I 100% believe in the autosomal matching process. It is just more solid. I have been doing genetic genealogy since 2012.
i think Living dna is fine for what it is though. I like that they give estimates on the ethnic groups that they have rather than just 'countries" since the countries are a very recent thing. I think it's also something that Living dna gives my maternal grandparents and my dad straight african/european results whereas the other companies give my dad and maternal granddad 1% Native American or 1% East Asian.
So I did 23 and me and sent them to livingdna and one of the results said 5.4% Kleurlinge (South Africa). Kleurlinge literally just means "Colored" people in Afrikaans, and it's kind of offensive/a slur/derogatory when used for brown people in South Africa.
I feel that people in Africa need to do more DNA test. If there are not many test to be compared to you, that's not the Labs fault. These countries need to test as well.
Or the labs could do control sample test of various ethnic group in Africa. Most Africans can tell ethnic groups from just appearance a lone, a Kenyan can look at someone and tell if they are a bantu or nilote because the physical features are very distinct.
I dont know if anyone posted what I’m about to say. But African ancestry specifically test black people to connect them to the continent of Africa,prior to the trans Atlantic slave trade that’s all. They are not to be compared to any other dna testing businesses or companies. So there is no negatives in comparison to any other dna companies.African ancestry is not there to tell you who your relatives are even though you may find who your relatives are through the results, but their main intentions are to reconnect the tester to the continent of Africa due to the trans Atlantic slave trade whereupon many africans were taken from the continent of Africa. So the person speaking on the video is wrong in his comparison!! African ancestry is not in competition with any other dna companies!!
Great vid, and nice break down of the general ADOS genetic make up. It seems far too often people either dont know OR refuse to acknowledge, that when it comes to our particular ethnicity that was created in America, it is NOT entirely African. The acknowledgement actually tells the TRUE history of what the history entailed. We ARE the history. Thanks
Just another great and educational video. I am thinking of getting another company's test, as I am not African American, but have some indigenous Polynesian ancestry and Ancestry only lists it as Polynesian/Maori and Oceanic and I know I could get to the exact island my ancestors came from to NZ some 800 years ago. Would you consider doing a video on people with ancestry other than European and African - people like me who are of Asian and Polynesian descent. I would eagerly volunteer to do the testing!
He is not correct. I have ancestry in west Africa, and east Africa. I have relatives with north African ancestry. Secondly, we use African American because many African Americans has ancestry from many different regions, and ethnic groups. Just as Asian Americans may have ancestry, from Japan and Korea.
I’ve tried African Ancestry and I honestly felt as if I had been scammed. For the amount of money you shell out, you would expect to get something other than one piece of paper with hardly any information. I just recently sent off my Ancestry sample and thanks to your video I now know that I can upload my results to other dna sites.
Yeah I used ancestry and now that I got my results I uploaded them to my heritage and living dna. Africa ancestry was like $300 for maternal and $300 for paternal which is too much
min. 2:06 You are going to far in the case of 2 generation and more of difference. Yes, we have 50% of autosomal DNA from each parent, But we are not getting even amount if DNA from each grandparent; in average it will be 50%, most people will get around 20-30% from each grandparent, but there will some more variation in some cases. And the variations will increase with number of generations. We may not even get DNA from ancestors 3 generations ago. And there will be more and more "ancestors" from earlier generations.
8:58 "not an exact science" - just stop. While I enjoy and appreciate a great deal that you do, in many ways these _identity shopping_ exercises are not "science" at all. The most obvious problem with these "ethnicity" tests is the lack of standard definitions. And in regards to empiricism (upon which scientific disciplines are built), only 23andMe describes _precision_ and _recall_ for their defined identities. And only 23andMe allows the customer to stipulate the confidence levels for their "ethnicity" results. However, I doubt most customers of 23andMe know they have that capability. Ancestry used to make the uncertainty bars front and center on their "ethnicity" results, but in one of the product revisions (a year or two ago) they decided to hide that and make the customer seek it out. IN NO SENSE can one use a single number to describe "ethnicity" and be doing anything other than feeding the need to be labeled as something. Only by looking at the uncertainty of a value should one decide on how much weight to put on the value. And a small value does not make a measurement uncertain.
Can you do something for biracial people. I am myself biracial (75% Mexican 25% Saudi [I couldn’t root for anyone on Wednesday]) and the Hispanic side has Iberian descent. I’ve speculated that it might be Sefardi Jewish heritage but I don’t know what DNA test will give me that information, could you do an episode on what tests can help with such issues
The Iberian descent would probably mean that an Hispanic ancestor was originally from Portugal or Spain. If you have tested with any of the major companies and it is NOT showing Jewish descent, then I think you simply don't have it. You would otherwise expect a trace to be showing.
@@Douli218 A DNA test should give you that information, one way or the other. I work as a genetic genealogist. My recommendation always is to test with Ancestry and upload your Ancestry results for free to MyHeritage. That gives you two goes at it - the results will differ slightly, as they use different algorithms.
Just because African ancestry use fewer snippets as the person says doesn’t mean that it’s a downside to it. Remember African ancestry purpose is to connect the tester to the continent of Africa. What’s better than knowing your exact tribe and country that you and your family originated from in Africa?? The other dna testers aren’t giving that specific info. It’s primarily for who’s called the African Americans!!
This video was very cool and interesting. can u do more for different groups? As the more known dna test companies do seem to have more europe focused results.
23&me will give you your autosomal, maternal and paternal lines, as well as relative matches. I found two long lost family lines and we've reconnected. They also have a more accurate community match list. They pin pointed exactly where my mother's and fathers people came from. I'm going to upload to living DNA. Ancestry didn't acknowledge my Jewish ancestry. 23 did. Myheritage confirmed it, but if feel their European and African matches left a lot to be desired. None of them picked up on my Native American, but the calculators in Gedmatch did. I feel overall, 23 give more bang for the buck!
Watch Geneavlogger's video on Jabari's family tree: th-cam.com/video/_GTXpPXam4U/w-d-xo.html
Check out Jabari's channel here: www.youtube.com/@FromNothing
just a question matt, what would be best for people who are really heavily mixed?
Does it work for any AFRICAN who is NOT AMERICAN??
Perhaps now maybe the Black Africans can truly believe that they are Africans, not Israelites. The DNA of Africans have generally 20% European DNA, 76% African DNA, and 4% other (Native American or other DNA).
this was thoughtful and interesting
It's not interesting. It's horrifying. You PAY Private companies to do what amounts to limited DNA testing and give them your PRICELESS DNA code forever. Unless you have a specific medical issue (rare genetic disorder etc) then giving your DNA code to a private company forever is terrible. How do you think these companies earn money?? They use your DNA as a MONETISED, Tradable commodity which you have given them FOREVER to use as they see fit. It's stupidity of the highest order. And this guy is spruking it. Crazy
It was a privilege working with you, thank you so much for doing this! It was an amazing experience and I feel much more connected to my ancestors now! I love the video and the very clear and easy to understand breakdown of everything. Now I have to get to Jarrett's video :)
@@Anwar157 "Not backed by science" according to who? I've done my research, so has Matt, and so has the scientists who work for these companies. What are your sources that say otherwise? I'm already aware that some oft he results are based on "probability" not "guesses." The sites actually say as much. They don't claim to have 100% accurate results.
@@Anwar157 So a Magazine is your source? I'm asking for peer reviewed scientific facts that refute it. And again, none of these tests claim to know that you are exaclty "4% Irish" for example. Ancestry DNA straight up tells you that the results are based on probability and if I'm for example "22% Nigerian" and I click for more details, it'll give me a fuzzy region that tells me that I could be anywhere between 2% and 50% Nigerian. These tests know their strengths and weaknesses and are very transparent about them.
Black hebrews hahaha
@@FromNothing Thanks Jabari and Matt! Awesome video, very helpful!
You live at Ohio 😲🤯
Thank you. I have recently contacted My Heritage. I was interested in finding out about possible Jewish ancestry. Thank goodness African descendents can be helped also. I am African American. I have been called out before for using that designation. However, I plan to stick with it until I can get more specific testing, I am a teacher. I wish that I had had such data and research in 1971.
This is awesome thank you. ❤
Even the title "From Nothing" hurts. Glad if DNA resting will help. One young woman I know was able to locate a tribe, and went to meet her distant relatives. They gave her a coming-of-age ritual and a name. She wears her tribal name on a necklace, and America is a better and stronger place for that connection.
They go to North Africa and South Africa because of socio economic reasons because those two regions are more developed than the rest of Africa. Like to be frank when you become accustomed to western conveniences it's a bit complicated to live in a somewhat backwards community without conveniences. Moreover South African black history and African American history has got so many parallels so on a social level they can resonate with one another more than any black groups on earth.
Of course the big question is what do you mean by "best"? For what is the customer seeking? If the customer is _identity shopping_ then Ancestry does the job (at least for Americans) better than most of the rest of the companies.
And if the customer is looking to do actual genealogy, then the customer should test at as many companies as possible, or transfer results if possible. Cousin connections are far better for learning about one's past than _identity labels_ .
I'm so happy to see Jabari getting more attention from bigger channels; he's one of my favorites.
Was he the one shilling NFTs or the the one shilling homeopathic "medicine"?
Hey it's Sam! Speaking of favorite channels, it's cool to see you here 👍
It's nice to learn about how DNA testing with non-whites. I'd like to hear what it's like for Asian Americans or Native Americans as well.
@victoria louise I thought they considered themselves "white?"
Oh!! That would be really interesting!
@@AkashaKeepsItReal Umm.... kind of. You are making it sound overly simplified. First of all it depends on where in Asia. Yes Siberian people (and Step Peoples sort of) have similar genetics, but not always. So some DNA may be similar, but there's also a ton of differences. I feel it warrants doing more than two videos (depending on the subject of each).
I'm Asian and Pacific Islander, and I got 2 results from my Asian side (Middle Eastern and West Asian), and 3 on my Pacific side (Polynesian, Melanesian and Papuan). This is despite those areas being incredibly diverse.
@@AkashaKeepsItReal You're right but by that logic you could go back further in time and just call everyone African.
I used CRI Genetics; they broke down by percentages the ethnic groups in Africa that my DNA corresponded with as well as that the most recent generations in my family came from the Caribbean. Which helped me discover that I was adopted.
Wow
@fj4971 I met my biological mother and two of my sisters last August. I have two more sisters by my biological father, who I've yet to meet.
Wow! Do you know if they’re good for Indigenous peoples?
@@samaraisnt no, they don't seem to be, because results ar
@@samaraisnt No, because results aren't broken down by tribe.
Even as a person who's ethnic ancestry is already served great by Ancestry, I'm really glad to see a creator like you acknowledge and educate about the different strategies other people may need to use to get similar information.
Im an african (so not an african american). I kinda want to test out these dna tests to see how accurate they are compared to what I know off (soninke)
@@trollinape2697 Would like to hear your results - This is a great idea!
@@mariamaria9178 Ill have to wait atleast probably as I am just a jobless 15 yr, hopefully I can get a job soon tho once I get an NI number
@@mariamaria9178 Same.
Would love to see you do something like this for other continents as well. It seems pretty clear to me that continents like Oceania and Asia are not given the same focused breakdown as Europe is. I have a friend who is middle eastern and was very disappointed at the lack of detail in her dna results, while I had a dozen European countries on mine.
The problem is that the DNA companies are comparing tests within their databases. At this stage the major companies have low representation within Asia. Until such time as DNA tests become available and used in Asian countries, then results will be poor.
A lot of these companies are based in Europe or North America. Inherently, they have a bias
Ancestry DNA makes no sense. I'm Māori (Native to Aotearoa New Zealand) and I understand that all Polynesians are descended from the same migration but their new "more accurate" update literally changed my results from Māori to Hawai'in. The migration path of Māori didn't even come from Hawai'i
@@Elowuz Polynesians only settled there islands 800 years ago. Not a long time for Haplogroups and mutations to diverge in any meaningful way
@@samsmith4242 the one I bought didn't do haplogroups.
Matt, I’m a huge fan of both and Jabari so this collaboration made me so happy!! Thank you for answering so many of my concerns from your previous videos on genealogy!
This is a great explanation. Easy to understand.
I'm African American (and South Asian) and tbh alot times this research can feel so overwhelming. It can bring up a lot of emotions, intergenerational trauma, and horrific history.
But still, happy to see more of us doing this.
Yeah...I remember getting pissed off when I saw mine. It just confirmed what my father told me.
Your people sold your ancestors into slavery. You don't need a DNA test to start dealing with that fact. Then you can begin your journey into knowledge and realize if that didn't happen, maybe your ancestor would have been ended in a ceremony for the King and your family line would have ended right then and there.
People who have intergenerational trauma have bought into some real dumb ideologies.
It says I'm 20.2% Walsh/Scottish and 79.8% African😑
You sho right about that. It can be painful and that's in just getting started.
@@framework333
Our melanated ppl were in Europe before the pale ppl...
We were nobles and high ranking...
From someone who works in clinical genetics (aka genetic testing in the healthcare setting), thank you for bringing awareness to the disparities in available genetic information among virtually everything that isn't white European!! This issue doesn't only affect ancestry data but, more importantly, the analysis of results from genetic testing.
Although we like to think about genetic testing as providing clear answers, but this is not always the case. In clinical genetics, there are three types of results: positive (pathogenic or disease causing) variants, negative (benign) variants, and variants of uncertain significance (VUSs). Most VUSs turn out to be representative of normal human variation and are not correlated with any adverse health conditions, but a large part of the classification of VUSs is based on available data about the specific genetic change, meaning most variants will only be classified as benign when they have been seen enough times in the general population. So populations who generally have less access to healthcare (or the disposable income to pay for it), are FAR more likely to get results with a number of VUSs, which is frustrating for both healthcare providers and patients. To combat this, lots of companies and healthcare institutions are teaming up to sponsor programs to do genetic testing on those who are underrepresented in our current data (especially groups that are minorities in the United States).
I was told by a friend who works in the anthropology field that another issue is all of the in-between relatives are left out of the DNA equation count, ie. your paternal great-great-great-great grandfather's mother and her mother and father and etc.
I’ve tested through Ancestry already, but now I’m going to follow through with the rest of your recommendations. Thank you and your and Jabari’s work is greatly appreciated.
Did you try and upload Ancestry data to other sites? I’m curious if I upload my Ancestry test to living DNA would it give me Y chromosome and mtDNA information?
I'm a pardo, that means I'm a mixture of white, black and everything else, so in my experience with DNA tests what I can say is
Use every single calculator available free in the internet, gedmatch, dnaworld, everything.
Anyway, I have from indian and japanese to native and central asian to every corner of europe and africa, definitively funny to see how diferent tests interpret my results
Didnt realize I could upload to My Heritage for free. I'm Jewish and did the ancestry DNA thing before I learned about your channel. I've been thinking about doing that other test, cause you recommend it. Now I can do it for free.
Definitely worth uploading to MyHeritage.
I'm going to on Tuesday, need to figure out how
@@christianweibrecht6555 there are directions on the website
It’s not free to see your ethnicity just free to upload
You are not Ask Jew. Don’t fall for that
As a linguist, Africa is one of my favorite continents. Thousands of languages are spoken there! Bantu languages are super interesting in how their grammars work, and Mandé languages are surprisingly easy to learn, at least for me. Not a bunch of tones to learn like e.g. Yoruba, and the grammar is really simple. Plus they have their own natively produced writing system, N'ko. Looks like this:
ߒߞߏ ߦߋ߫ ߛߓߍߛߎ߲߫ ߞߊ߲ߡߊߛߙߋߡߊ ߟߋ߬ ߘߌ߫
I'm learning Bamanankan (a Mandé language) so that I can write letters to my Malian sponsor child in his own language 😊 I'd like to get him some textbooks in Bamanankan, in N'ko script, since most textbooks at his school are in French. Education is power, and everyone should have access to it in their own language.
Thanks for sharing, I especially agree with your last sentence. Be well!
I'm mad that Jabari actually has the African Y-Chrome Marker E-M2. I wish I had that. I have Rb1 so I can't trace my male line back to Africa but to Europe through a Slave-Owner. My mtDNA is L2af1 which I thought originated in West Africa but I guess it is South African. What crazy is that my autosomal is 94.5% Sub Saharan African, 4% European and 1.5% Native American, but I end up with the european marker ONLY being 4% white lol. I like seeing Jabari getting this attention. He deserves it, his channel is really shedding a light on our Ancestor's History before slavery.
Did you really trace your male line to Europe through a slave owner if you did how far back and by the way I am also in the haplogroup R1b.
@@Lonnell99 It says my European DNA can be found 22 generations ago but its as recent as 2 generations ago. There is a story in my family about 2 Scottish brothers who left Scotland in the early 1800s and ended up in the Caribbean and I'm a descendant of one of them.
@@jamescorvus6709 If I were you I would take all DNA test company because you will get more different DNA results from different company's and also you can take the Y-chromosome DNA from from family tree DNA company they will take you all the way back to Africa Haplogroup A00!.
I'm really curious how you got South African DNA considering slaves were never taken from there but brought to SA. Was it specifically SA or Southern Africa because they definitely traded slaves from Angola.
@@sigco1019 yes it's Southern Africa but among the bantu in South Africa would carry mtDNA from West and Central Africa since they migrated to SA from those regions.
Going with Ancestry's Autosomal test first can be a good decision. Especially if building a tree now and looking for new cousins now is your primary focus.
But, if at this point, your main interest is learning the most about your *estimated* ethnic makeup with the most detail, then LivingDNA should be your first choice. Why? Even though LivingDNA results can't be uploaded to other sites, it doesn't matter when you're only looking for the best breakout of your recent (up to about 400 yrs ago realistically) ancestry. In addition, LivingDNA does separate tests to provide a taste of your more ancient ancestry, your maternal and paternal haplogroups. Those haplogroups (sorta like where you fit in on the whole-world family tree and migration(s) group(s). Uploading your DNA results only becomes helpful really, when you've already done a chunk of family history research.
Those haplogroups that LivingDNA (and African Ancestry) come from testing a small chunk of your Y-DNA (paternal and only in males) and MtDNA (maternal but in both) which Ancestry doesn't do, FamilyTreeDNA specializes in those areas (but won't add anywhere near enough added insight on ethnic ancestry for the cost) and that African African Ancestry provides with a much greater ethnic focus but also at a much higher cost. If resources allow, I'd go with both LivingDNA and African Ancestors but for a first go, and for less than $100 on sale ($80 currently which includes the $10 S/H) and probably through Xmas.
All of these companies review and update their DNA databases, criteria, assumptions, models, etc (and each are somewhat to very proprietary) on a regular basis, year-in, year-out. So don't at any current estimates as being cast in stone (more like jello at best) and instead, expect and celebrate the changes because they should mean they're getting more and more accurate. With DNA it's such a recently developed tool (as is migratory science based on DNA) , we're not even at the Model T stage and for you younger people, the changes will be huge over the next 10 years, let alone the next 50. My Ancestry results have changed massively since doing their test in 2015 but in my case, it's finding DNA matches to help break a brick wall or five that is my priority. My paternal line is so "thin" though that I've had no Y-DNA matches at FamilyTreeDNA since testing in 2017. But I'm getting much closer by building a very rough copy of my great grandfathers family using distant matches found on Ancestry.
So part of your decision on what to start with, no matter your ethnicity, is what questions are you trying to answer at this time. For me, if I was looking to pick a first test and my current interest was finding the most details I could about where my "recent" ancestors came from and I'm on a limited budget, the winner clearly would be LivingDNA. If that got me interested in finding more about my family and building a tree, you can start building your tree for free with tons of free resources at familysearchdotorg. There's also a boatload of free videos here on TH-cam to get that part going. There's an amazing amount of free resources out there to find what "paper" may have survived from birth records, the Federal or in some cases State Census, the Freedman's Bureau records and so much more. Then, if I felt that I wanted/needed DNA matches from the by far largest database out there to help answer more questions, then I'd take an Ancestry test and go from there. "Paper" is a great way to start and learn the research side and so much more while giving you time to learn more about DNA as well.
One last bit. I'd still buy LivingDNA first, but if I was one who wanted to find living family, whether you want to get in contact or not, then I'd get AncestryDNA as soon after getting Living as I could. You can even build a tree for free on Ancestry and access their free collections and more at any time. I find working on trees easier in Ancestry and you can always access content for free on FamilySearch that requires a membership on Ancestry. Plus, Ancestry recently brought out a new update that lets you separate your DNA matches into maternal and paternal matches which makes it much easier to sort and find potential family. Anyway, I always go on too long but I'm very familiar with most sites after 20+ yrs online/on a computer and another 20 prior and these are great times to learn more. I'd love to be starting now!
Best breakdown I’ve seen by far on any other comment section. Please start a blog. Thank you.
You’re missing the part where most of these services are highly bias against those with Afro backgrounds. There simply isn’t enough testing done by your recommendations. I don’t want to take a test just to find out Im “African” or to have every country in western Africa light up. I want to know more specifics as those with European backgrounds are provided with. This is the problem we face as African American, vague information barely more informative than generational wives tales
This was great....ty for the info...I think I'm at a crossroads in my search unless I hire an expert...but this info will help...thanks.
Thanks for this comment! I'm mostly AA and have been trying to decide which of these to use. Between the video and your comment i think I've figured out out, and I'm excited to get started!
@@JB-bm1to What did you end up going with, if I may ask? :)
Did Jabari not test at 23andMe? They have perhaps the best (as far as technical understanding) of the "ancestry" and have several groups for African ancestry.
I was really wanting to know about 23andMe test, because that's the one I'm thinking about getting. I'll still get one because it seems its still a decent one that shows good results.
@@PrincessofKeyswhich one did you get
Thank you for the work you and Jabari did for this video! My 13 year old is mixed race, and we don't have any contact with her bio father's family. She knows so little of his family, and has asked a lot of hard questions (where did his family come from, were his ancestors slaves or not, etc, etc.). We know that my family came from Germany, England and Scotland, but for her, it's a big blank. Now we know we have some options when she gets a little bit older to find out some of that information.
Thank you for being down with the swirl 😆😁😄
@@h.donnellgrayiii4276 down with the swirl! Love that!!!
@@randa0283 haha I couldn't resist 😆
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Is her dad not around?
No matter what the case is if his family knows about your daughter she should ask them. She should be allowed to try asking them anything and go from there.
She's 13 and people in his family are a phone call or even a letter away.
Sounds like you don't have much communication with him or his family but people change. She's old enough to give it a shot and try to reach out to his family members for the questions she has.
Just let her know if their response isn't a good one that it's not her fault and isn't anything she did.
Writing a letter might be the start of the answers she's looking for.
I'll bet there's somebody willing to talk, you would be the one that knows where to start.
Good Luck to your Daughter.
Africa is an incredibly diverse continent, and
VERY big. When I was in Morocco, a 5 hour roadtrip was but a blip on the larger map of Africa.
I took my test with MyHeritage. But it was by accident. For some reason I thought it was ancestry lol. I was really trying to build my family tree and MyHeritage had more matches for my European dna than the African. It was pretty interesting because I found some pretty close relatives that my family knew of but they did not know of us. Whoops 😂! I think I’m going to upload ancestry because I’m looking for both my maternal and paternal grandfather’s family. This video gave some pretty great insight.
We are not African, we are indigenous to the land ( Indian) known as turtle island. Trust your elders have the answers. A very small % are African less than 5%. Stop taking the classification your government gave you.
This ain’t relevant but you are beautiful asf 😍
ancestry sells your data to the government
Same I’m like why is everything from the UK. Lol
@@Notimportant253 wow! Thanks a lot!
I'm not African American, but panamanian. More than one third of my genome is subsaharian african. My Ydna is european and my mitochondrial haplogroup is american indigenous. My maternal line is maroon from Panama, an admixture of Native americans/Africans. I think my best african description is in Livingdna, because I get Yoruba as my main african link, 13,9% Yoruba. My second best african result is Bantu from Cameroon, around 5,9% but I get Mendé too. My results are linking me to many places of África due to Slave Trade under spanish colonialism.
Do you remember which haplogroup you got? Because I’m literally in the same situation as you. My mother Amerindian Panama and African American father with some European admixture. Wassup cuz
This was so interesting. I'm curious to know why you didn't also use 23andME. I have Igbo ancestry from Nigeria, but I also got a similar breakdown with Cameroon and Mali on ancestry as Jabari did.
I really enjoyed this video! I learned a lot about DNA testing and especially which ones are beneficial for Black Americans. Can't wait to get started on my DNA journey! Thank you!
Which one did you use
25 bucks is better than what I was going to do which is just go with African Ancestry...I wanna try it one day, but its very expensive. Thanks for giving me an option for now until I can afford African Ancestry.
How did it go
23 and me now gives extended information. They list specific African tribes within countries and a lot more based on your background.
Extremely useful. You always do an excellent job. Thanks
would love to see more vids like this for other ethnic groups
I recommend 23andme as an east-african. 23andme gives your haplogroup superclade results for mtdna and y-dna and offers good autosomal test results on par with the other tests aswell as health related info. The geographic ancestry report directs you to provinces/regions inside countries of which other testers were originally from. Fdna is good as a followup to learn about the roots of haplo markers and find mathces with the y-dna terminal haplogroup.
Thank you my fellow east african you have answered my question have been wondering which dna test is perfect for pure african since we don't have data base..
Read the fine print… it says entertainment purposes only😂
@@realamerican8069 ?
@@realamerican8069 They all do. That's for legal purposes.
What did you say it’s too many words lol
I'm 91% african and the rest is European
Uploaded my 23 and Me info to My Heritage and Living DNA, it's $29 and $28 respectively to get the ethnic breakdown, and up to a 48 hour wait. Still better than paying full price and waiting 2+ weeks . Thanks again for the advice! ☺
Makes me wonder why they are so expensive for those extra results to see.
I took the LivingDNA test and also uploaded results from 23andme. The results differed. IMHO, I would not rely on just uploaded results.
Great video. I wish I had seen this sooner. I purchased a DNA test from African Ancestry. In addition to the cost, I am unhappy with my results. I can only trust that the results are accurate, however, I cannot seem to find much of anything online about the Brame people they say my family descends from.
The letter containing my results suggests joining their online community to connect with others. It has been two weeks since I received my results and requested to be a part of their community, but my membership is still pending. The letter also contains a link to an e-book on African History and culture to read for a "deeper understanding of the African countries and ethnic groups of our ancestors." Unfortunately, I saw nothing about the ethnic group I come from.
At this point, all I have is an email that links to a letter and certificate to show how I spent $300. For that price, it seems they could at least mail a copy of the letter and certificate for me to frame or put in a scrapbook.
I advise using African Ancestry if your African (I will explain more below). But first a pet peeve with using Bantu.
Bantu is a language group consisting of at least 400 ethnic groups. It’s like saying someone is related to a romantic language. It’s silly at best.
As far as DNA 🧬 tests go, I would steer clear of Ancestry who now does not allow you to delete your info after being bought out by Black Stone (an asset management company).
MyHeritage is alright if you are not African, & Living DNA can only identify dozens of tribes in Africa (despite claiming to have the largest African database which is in my honest opinion a lie (there are others who can identify more tribes than Living DNA).
Okay, so African Ancestry I paid for both test for several reasons. One, they automatically destroy your DNA 🧬 after analysis. Many companies sell your DNA 🧬 on the backend to pharmaceutical companies (23andMe sells to GSK), to the FBI (FamilyTree DNA 🧬 did this) or “loan” them out to research labs. Others use your DNA 🧬 as some sore of biological equity to build up value for the company (for a potential sale, cue Ancestry).
That is why they are less expensive overall. African Ancestry is independently owned & does not keep your DNA 🧬. This is important as many governments are now attempting to access these DNA 🧬 databases via legal or not so legal methods in order to solve old crime cases.
With that out of the way, I chose African Ancestry not only for privacy reasons, but also because you can identify which specific tribe you are related to, which was confirmed to me when I visited those tribes in Africa.
Last but not least, several African countries have granted citizenship based upon these tests. Sierra Leone 🇸🇱 does (they granted me citizenship in 2021), as well as Gabon 🇬🇦 & Guinea-Bissau 🇬🇼.
That said, I encourage you to do your own research, but I am quite happy with my African Ancestry results.
Not a single case yet out of all these years has been reported of anyone selling or buying anyone's DNA.
A lot of very powerful people from Oprah Winfrey to Bernie Sanders to John McCain to Barbara Walters have done DNA tests and not a single mention anywhere has been made of their DNA being sold or bought.
@@apgeneticgenealogylover6601 You should try Googling some of the companies I mentioned earlier, along with their buyers. This was huge news years ago. Did you miss it‽ Yes, DNA 🧬 information was sold, that is a fact that journalists have verified. I am not sure if this account here allows links in the comments (which is why I refrained from posting any), which is why you should Google it.
@@Darnell what DNA information was sold, that someone is 20 percent European? Someone sold and someone else bought.. that? Lol
@@apgeneticgenealogylover6601 🙄 Please tell me you are not this ignorant. Pharmaceutical companies are currently seeking to create their own DNA 🧬 databases in order to perfect their various medications, which is why GSK purchased access to 23andMe’s database.
The FBI is also trying to construct their own DNA 🧬 database (police departments too, at least in America) in order to solve crimes “faster,” which is why they paid FamilyTree DNA 🧬 for access to theirs (this was previously hidden & exposed by journalists).
This has already been well documented. Where have you been for the past ten years‽
@@Darnell 23andme will ask users if they'll participate in research and then have them answer questions if they consent. 23andme will then group them together and deidentify them and provide them to something like GSK.
23andme is not just "selling DNA" or "selling DNA information" (like what percent European you are) and no one is buying it.
I think it's cool that you partnered with Jabari on this. Many people who are not AA wouldn't even think too much about the lack of resources and/or limitations wr face in this situation.
I am sure the data is organized by country as a result of the way it was gathered. Getting high-quality data from the entire continent of Africa is an extremely expensive endeavor, and it requires cooperation from every country in the study. Each country will conduct the study in its own way, and results are probably also anonymized in some way. It might not be possible to compare results from different countries directly, and even if it is, there might not be enough geographic information to distinguish peoples from within one country. I don't think it's a question of lack of interest. I think these studies are just very difficult to perform. Africa also has the greatest genetic diversity on the planet, which makes interest even higher but the science even more difficult.
Western blacks shouldn't even have to pay for this service given our sad history - the government should pay. Great upload though - very informative but what I need to know is will my data be shared with 3rd parties?
What do you think your "data" is? That you're 20 percent European?
This was very helpful! I’m Haitian American and have been planning on doing one of these at some point. Great video! 👍🏾
How about none of them. Stop giving your DNA to wicked men.
why not? its the only time machine we got
Absolutely love collaborations like this!
Jebari and his From Nothing are AMAZING
The collab I never knew I needed💯💯🔥
Clicked as soon as I saw Jabari in the thumbnail lmao
Um... "African American" is a misnomer but "Black" isn't?
As a mixed race woman, I found the Ethiohelix filter at gedmatch to be very enlightening, also naming specific tribes, like Mbuti and Maasai. 23 and Me also do standard Mt-dna and Y-dna testing, and as I had a brother also test, I got my father's y-dna.
Myheritage was fantastic for ability to compare matches to family trees, but had the most divergent ethnicity results of all.
It was very accurate for my husband, who is mostly northwest European, with recent European ancestry.
This was very informative. Thank you.
I tested with African ancestry before but maybe I should try living DNA as well. I wish African ancestry broke down tribe percentage like Living DNA.
Maybe there's a way to upload my results from African ancestry to living DNA and only pay $25?
Great video! I took my DNA test last year through Ancestry and decided to upload the DNA results to Heritage and Living DNA to see if there were major distinctions. My parents are both Ghanaian immigrants and we descend from the Akan people (Asante and Akyem tribes specifically). Ancestry was pretty spot on stating I was 94% Ghana/Ivory Coast/Togo. The living DNA results were a bit surprising. They estimated only a little over half of my DNA was Akan and even estimated 18% for Yoruba which is pretty unlikely given my family history. I'm still waiting for the results from MyHeritage but overall while I'm glad some progress is being made, I think there remains a lot to be desired. Maybe one day I'll submit info to African Ancestry to see how accurate they are.
What is the update for Myheritage? And did you end up submitting it to African Ancestry?
What's the update
This is great, my sister was a genealogists and she has passed. Fortunately, she and I discussed DNA extensively. BTW she used Ancestry, 23 and Me, Family Tree and Ged Match. Why didn't Jabari test with 23 and Me?
When you do Ancestry or 23 and me do they provide Y-chromosome or mtDNA results? Or is it obtained by uploading to another site? Thank you
First of all jabari looks nigerian....second of all, ive seen plenty of african americans get the african ancestry test and they keep telling AAs they are from cameroon ...how can most africa americans be from cameroon? Id rather take the living dna test being the test results match jabaris looks its seems to be accurate..altho i am AA of mostly ghanian descent i would like to knkw what other tribes i possess in my dna
I just did LivingDNA myself and I was really impressed with the results.
Am I the only one who noticed that he did not do a complete comparison of African Ancestry? To be fair he should add the information about the database and the advantage instead of stopping the review and making his recommendations. In terms of the accuracy of African Ancestry, why would there be a question of accuracy if Jabari’s other results were aligned with results of African Ancestry? I honestly liked African Ancestry compared to the others because I prefer accuracy. The other companies do not have a large African database so just because their results imply “west African” does not mean that they are accurate. Almost all people considered as African American know that they came from west Africa.
I enjoyed your video. I am a black American. When we did DNA testing, we are Nigerian Igbo. We can trace our family to the early 1800s on one side and on the other side the laste 1700s. What we do not know is the first ancestor's name. We want to know the first ancestor. Which company is the best for that? Should we be looking at hapla groups with mt-dna results? So, Family Tree DNA. How do I find the name of the first ancestor?
I actually found Jabari from the "South of the Sahara" series. He's awesome.
There are non that will give true results.
Do the research and find out how your ancestor got to Africa. Your ancestors were already here and exiled out during invasions and wars.
Your ancestors also came here from Europe. There were Black Europeans exiled from Europe during the Jacobite war.
Research, there are plenty of resources available with the truth.
All Black people did not come from Africa.
I came back 100% African.
thx so much for telling us that we can upload our dna to different services, i'm so excited to learn my results
None of them are good!! We shouldn’t be doing this.
better than word of mouth
the technology will improve over time though
@@apgeneticgenealogylover6601 - ... and People will still LIE about Our origins.
thank you for breaking this down as someone with Cape Verdean background and some rumored Moors in the mix (on my moms side, as she understood it) I wanted to see if I could learn specifics. My C.V. ancestors immigrated from the Azores so it gets murky from there. I have a gifted Ancestry kit and am looking forward to this journey of discovery My dad's side is from Ireland/Britain I will plan to upload the results to both My Heritage and Living DNA
From what I have seen in DNA results videos, most descendants of the African diaspora in the USA and the Caribbean will have "Kenyan" DNA showing up in their results with MyHeritage, some to high percentages. This is not correlated with historical facts in the slave trade, so this is very likely a big database bias.
There might be some genetic connections with populations in East Africa, but probably through more ancient internal human migrations on the African continent.
On the other side, I also noticed MyHeritage sometimes detects subsaharan DNA in some European people (from Europe, not the USA), strangely, it systematically points to Nigeria. Once again, not Senegal, or Benin, or Ghana, just Nigeria. Probably another bias linked to their database. In all, it does not give a feeling of high reliability.
African Ancestry gets constant criticism because of cost and it’s exclusive intent. Geneticists know the tests are accurate. It’s the same test procedure that brought us mitochondrial Eve and Y-chromosomal Adam
Is there a good reason 23 & Me, a major player in this field, was left out of this comparison?
I'd love to see a video like this for Asians - East or South!
After the first video I googled ok what about black people?!!! 😂😂😂 this video came up.... let's see
Which one is the best one for people in the Caribbean?
I second this!
@@drshemp1 wym? I’m asking which one is beter
@@darkholddoom3275 lmaoooooo he’s saying “me too” or “I have the same question”
Also because many Caribbeans were African slaves the same principals apply as for African Americans.
@@rodom303 ahhh i always thought it meant I disagree
23andme, it identified the island my mother and her family is from and one of the other Islands my father has family in. They don't have a location for the island me and my father is from yet.
Everyone should ask their parents as where you are from, just only four generations the United States was here, meaning most black people are from here. Not overseas. Plus the population in 1600s to 1800s weren’t many, if we would do some research we will find out exactly where we are all from. Remember the names of African American went from Indian to Negro, to colored to black and now African American. I would use this as entertainment because you just might make yourself a non citizen, in a country you have been in for generations.
Thanks for the informative video. I am African -American and have tested with numerous companies. First a question for you, why was 23 & Me excluded from your video? They have both the Autosomal and Mt- and Y-DNA Results. Since I am a woman, I had both my mom and dad take it as well, so we could have his Y-DNA. The interesting thing I discovered was that I'm approximately 78-82% Sub-saran African, however both my Mt- and Y-DNA results were from the people that left Africa. My Mt-DNA haplogroup is I1a1, which originated in the Iran area and then spread up to Europe. My dad's Y-DNA was R-M17( a branch of R-M512 which according to 23& Me is kind of rare and is now found in Ukraine, Russia, Eastern Europe and in Central and South Asia. I have used the following companies for testing: Ancestry, 23&Me, My Heritage, DNALand, Wegene, and GedMatch, which has numerous caluations and tests. I may from your recommendation upload to Living DNA for the breakdown of the African ethnicity. thanks for the informative video.
Knowing the specific tribe was so important, it was the purpose of it all for the lost African Americans. So African Ancestry was the best choice.
I'm a mitochondrial geneticist and I kinda wanna know my haplogroup now... the little screenshot you showed of mtDNA results looked promising!
I wanted to find my mtDNA group more than anything else. I chose My Living DNA, knowing most of my ancestry is British. The results were still surprising, though.
@@AnnDroid877 I already did a dna test a couple years ago with Myheritage (im from Germany), but I'm assuming that they didn't sequence any mtdna (as they don't analyze it anyways) so I would need to actually send my samples to living dna for this analysis, and that i cannot upload my files there. I didn't look at my files yet but I'd probably be able to figure this out
@@Chuulip I work as a genetic genealogist. I would use FamilyTreeDNA for this, rather than Living DNA. This area really is FamilyTreeDNA's speciality.
My heritage being owned by an Israeli makes that 1 percent Ashkenazi Jew seem hella suspect.
The fun part (only semi-related) is when you send in for tests that aren't supposed to work and you get an unexpected result (female y-chromosome tests for example)
As it turns out, Intersex without visible signs is very common.
What test did you take to find that out? Thanks!
what test was that?
@@junenyethere isn’t . This person is just lying . That’s why they haven’t responded back
I did ancestry and I thought everyone had abit of Africa in them? Mine has none...was it wrong?
Whoa! Thank you so much. This video was very helpful. I have already tested thru Ancestry but was a little underwhelmed with the results. I specifically wanted to know more about country and/or ethnic group in which I belong. Great suggestion on what to do from here, and I plan to follow it.
I have tested with 23andMe, AncestryDNA, FTDNA, LivingDNA, and MyHeritage DNA and the best were 23andME and AncestryDNA. I have also tested 15 family members. Full disclosure is my goal is more about building my tree than finding ethnicity estimates. I would never recommend Living DNA and MyHeritage DNA to any African American for ethnicity estimates (if that was my focus). The sample size for African DNA in their database is lacking. This will influence the percentages. Also, for populations who have experienced continental-level racial mixing over the years, as most African Americans living today have due to the barbaric practice of enslavement, more research needs to be done on how that may make our DNA appear to be closer to something else. For me, I believe in the science of ethnicity percentages but don't think it is there yet. I 100% believe in the autosomal matching process. It is just more solid. I have been doing genetic genealogy since 2012.
i think Living dna is fine for what it is though. I like that they give estimates on the ethnic groups that they have rather than just 'countries" since the countries are a very recent thing. I think it's also something that Living dna gives my maternal grandparents and my dad straight african/european results whereas the other companies give my dad and maternal granddad 1% Native American or 1% East Asian.
You can upload your autosomal DNA to Family Tree DNA as well but will have to do a test with their kit to get Y DNA and mT DNA results
So I did 23 and me and sent them to livingdna and one of the results said 5.4% Kleurlinge (South Africa). Kleurlinge literally just means "Colored" people in Afrikaans, and it's kind of offensive/a slur/derogatory when used for brown people in South Africa.
Great example. Thanks for this info. I am planning to do my DNA in 2023. I wasn't sure who to do it with. This info helps me out a lot.
Black people were also exiled from Spain and Portugal into West Africa. They were Sephardic Jews.
I'd love one of these for south asians.
Thank you very much I've been trying to figure out the best choice for this
I feel that people in Africa need to do more DNA test. If there are not many test to be compared to you, that's not the Labs fault. These countries need to test as well.
Or the labs could do control sample test of various ethnic group in Africa. Most Africans can tell ethnic groups from just appearance a lone, a Kenyan can look at someone and tell if they are a bantu or nilote because the physical features are very distinct.
I dont know if anyone posted what I’m about to say. But African ancestry specifically test black people to connect them to the continent of Africa,prior to the trans Atlantic slave trade that’s all. They are not to be compared to any other dna testing businesses or companies. So there is no negatives in comparison to any other dna companies.African ancestry is not there to tell you who your relatives are even though you may find who your relatives are through the results, but their main intentions are to reconnect the tester to the continent of Africa due to the trans Atlantic slave trade whereupon many africans were taken from the continent of Africa. So the person speaking on the video is wrong in his comparison!! African ancestry is not in competition with any other dna companies!!
This was great, thx for the vid. Very informative
Great vid, and nice break down of the general ADOS genetic make up. It seems far too often people either dont know OR refuse to acknowledge, that when it comes to our particular ethnicity that was created in America, it is NOT entirely African. The acknowledgement actually tells the TRUE history of what the history entailed. We ARE the history. Thanks
The true history is in your dna which is majority Afrikan. You were brought to america from Afrika.
Just another great and educational video. I am thinking of getting another company's test, as I am not African American, but have some indigenous Polynesian ancestry and Ancestry only lists it as Polynesian/Maori and Oceanic and I know I could get to the exact island my ancestors came from to NZ some 800 years ago. Would you consider doing a video on people with ancestry other than European and African - people like me who are of Asian and Polynesian descent. I would eagerly volunteer to do the testing!
He is not correct. I have ancestry in west Africa, and east Africa. I have relatives with north African ancestry.
Secondly, we use African American because many African Americans has ancestry from many different regions, and ethnic groups. Just as Asian Americans may have ancestry, from Japan and Korea.
If I could only tag Dane Calloway 🤦🏿♂️
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His probably seen this, but his running a business.
@@fortygeesyada6147
We both know that the 🧢 has to stop.
I’ve tried African Ancestry and I honestly felt as if I had been scammed. For the amount of money you shell out, you would expect to get something other than one piece of paper with hardly any information. I just recently sent off my Ancestry sample and thanks to your video I now know that I can upload my results to other dna sites.
Yeah I used ancestry and now that I got my results I uploaded them to my heritage and living dna. Africa ancestry was like $300 for maternal and $300 for paternal which is too much
I’m sure they need a separate but equal dna test cuz differences are skin deep.
min. 2:06
You are going to far in the case of 2 generation and more of difference.
Yes, we have 50% of autosomal DNA from each parent,
But we are not getting even amount if DNA from each grandparent; in average it will be 50%, most people will get around 20-30% from each grandparent, but there will some more variation in some cases.
And the variations will increase with number of generations. We may not even get DNA from ancestors 3 generations ago. And there will be more and more "ancestors" from earlier generations.
Mendel's laws, that ancestry is no longer yours. If your ancestor once had Scottish ancestry, generations later, his descendant may not have it.
8:58 "not an exact science" - just stop. While I enjoy and appreciate a great deal that you do, in many ways these _identity shopping_ exercises are not "science" at all. The most obvious problem with these "ethnicity" tests is the lack of standard definitions. And in regards to empiricism (upon which scientific disciplines are built), only 23andMe describes _precision_ and _recall_ for their defined identities. And only 23andMe allows the customer to stipulate the confidence levels for their "ethnicity" results. However, I doubt most customers of 23andMe know they have that capability.
Ancestry used to make the uncertainty bars front and center on their "ethnicity" results, but in one of the product revisions (a year or two ago) they decided to hide that and make the customer seek it out.
IN NO SENSE can one use a single number to describe "ethnicity" and be doing anything other than feeding the need to be labeled as something. Only by looking at the uncertainty of a value should one decide on how much weight to put on the value. And a small value does not make a measurement uncertain.
MyHeritage is not accurate for Black people.
Can you do something for biracial people. I am myself biracial (75% Mexican 25% Saudi [I couldn’t root for anyone on Wednesday]) and the Hispanic side has Iberian descent. I’ve speculated that it might be Sefardi Jewish heritage but I don’t know what DNA test will give me that information, could you do an episode on what tests can help with such issues
The Iberian descent would probably mean that an Hispanic ancestor was originally from Portugal or Spain. If you have tested with any of the major companies and it is NOT showing Jewish descent, then I think you simply don't have it. You would otherwise expect a trace to be showing.
I haven’t tested
@@Douli218 A DNA test should give you that information, one way or the other. I work as a genetic genealogist. My recommendation always is to test with Ancestry and upload your Ancestry results for free to MyHeritage. That gives you two goes at it - the results will differ slightly, as they use different algorithms.
Just because African ancestry use fewer snippets as the person says doesn’t mean that it’s a downside to it. Remember African ancestry purpose is to connect the tester to the continent of Africa. What’s better than knowing your exact tribe and country that you and your family originated from in Africa?? The other dna testers aren’t giving that specific info. It’s primarily for who’s called the African Americans!!
And enter Chubbyemu enters the chat, *_"the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell."_*
Could you please do a similar video with a person with Asian background?
This video was very cool and interesting. can u do more for different groups? As the more known dna test companies do seem to have more europe focused results.
23&me will give you your autosomal, maternal and paternal lines, as well as relative matches. I found two long lost family lines and we've reconnected. They also have a more accurate community match list. They pin pointed exactly where my mother's and fathers people came from. I'm going to upload to living DNA. Ancestry didn't acknowledge my Jewish ancestry. 23 did. Myheritage confirmed it, but if feel their European and African matches left a lot to be desired. None of them picked up on my Native American, but the calculators in Gedmatch did. I feel overall, 23 give more bang for the buck!