I used to get a kick out of doing the ogre’s annoyed comments during this track from 1:09 to 1:36. The sheer silliness of the ogre against such harsh music always made me laugh
1:16 you can hear this part in Orc 2 theme from Warcraft 3, but more stoic and less warlike, which makes sense for Thrall's Horde. It's amazing how this music still holds up. I wish we had pre-WoW Blizzard around, although, I would argue, music is the only thing that still isn't disappointing in the more recent Blizzard games.
They completely remade Orc 2 for Warcraft 3. These songs really characterize what it's like to work for Ner'Zhul: the bounty is enough to give you super powers, but the punishment is death. The Warlock Warchief does not accept defeat from his subordinates.
@@High_Priest_Jonko unlike the game. It's such a shame they never got to make a remaster with better pathfinding, higher resolution and controls. Sorta like that bootleg Warcraft 2000 game, but official and even better
Warcraft 2 Orcs were actually under the effect of a demonic rage, they're more peaceful and respectful in the sequel because they are no more under the effect of the magic of Zul'dan
not to mention, that alliance won only cause by the time of final battle for Lordaeron, Gul'Dan took 2 clans to search Sargeras tomb, and angry Doomhammer took another clans to search the traitors. So basicaly it was 1/3 of the horde army, that was fighting the alliance in lordaeron.
Even if this music is nostalgic for me, I have to say that the Starcraft 1 Terran music really beats nothing. One of, if not the best music-track in any game ever made.
What's wrong with a Horde led by a guy who; 1. has no sense of compromise, 2. kills at the drop of a hat, 3. kills one of his fellow leaders, 4. alienates and later tries to kill another fellow leader, 5. literally nukes a city, 6. declares genocide on an entire race, 7. decides he wants to conquer a newfound continent and 8. wants to use a force originating from the Old Gods, who were directly responsible for the Cataclysm, as a weapon. I'm pretty sure those eight pointers speak for themselves
Kind of a long shot considering that there's a well established lore that the orcs weren't evil in the beginning. Demons like Kil'jaeden and Sargeras were around since WC2, and the orcs simply deciding to invade Azeroth for sh*ts and giggles because they were evil would have made for a lame excuse even in the early nineties. Not to mention making the New Horde evil right after WC3, where they helped kill one of the Legion's lords (Archimonde), would have been a plot hole the size of Canada.
You forget that in warcraft 2 orcs could win if you played as them and who wouldn't they have better music units and spells . Thats the best part about this games you can control the stories ending and crush the elves stronghold and the humans.
You probably don't want modern Blizzard to make an RTS. They'll botch it just like Starcraft 2. All the talented people who made their classics aren't there anymore. The next epic RTS will come from somewhere else.
@@KungKras "You probably don't want modern Blizzard to make an RTS. They'll botch it just like Starcraft 2." THIS. A BILLION, FUCKING GOZILLION TIMES THIS.
Mostly a problem of the community. When I subbed to Warhammer online, I didn't expect many people to be all that interested in Warhammer lore but in the MMO itself. There were people who treated Dark Elves like fucking, joyful -cheerleaders- I liked WC3's story. The Orcs were struggling with their violent nature and were carving a place for themselves on their adopted planet. You see what you see, I guess. And I kind of like the Horde from Classic to Wrath. For a few reasons.
I was thinking more along the lines of a proud member of the Horde (the old Horde controlled by the Burning Legion, but still) holding the bloody corpse of a filthy member of the Alliance...but, that works too.
@jimmyhayers Oh yes, Starcraft has some kickass music...and most of C&C games as well =) But Warcraft II's music is the only one that really brings memories and nostalgia...and the simple reason for that is that Warcraft II was the very first RTS I ever played, when I started to play games in 1996 ...I never actually played Starcraft or C&C games until much later, few years ago actually for the very first time.
@vegeta353658 He is holding a guy who is all bloody and half dead in his neck and prepares to execute him with an axe while the human is barely conscious. I know it might be a poor explanation but it sure does look a little perverted to me.
may be you are right, by the way most people who only watch lotr movie dont even know that thing) And the name Morgoth is associated with death metal band for them, not Melkor. So they think that its primal evil
@vegeta353658 Perverted doesn't necessarily mean it has to do with sex. I copied this from wikipedia "Perversion is a concept describing those types of human behavior that are a serious deviation from what is considered to be orthodox or normal. Although it can refer to varying forms of deviation, it is most often used to describe sexual behaviors that are seen by an individual as abnormal, repulsive or obsessive" Sorry if I'm acting like a "Know-it-all" and maybe you still don't agree with me.
You know, just because the orcs are no longer influenced by demonic bloodlust and don't behave like savages it doesn't mean they're 'treehugging idiots'. In fact, having emotions does not mean one can't be a badass. Seriously, this whole 'emotionless brutality' admiration sounds like something in 90's comic books written by Rob Liefeld and Jim Lee, where showing any emotion other than being pissed off or joyously slaughtering people left and right is considered unacceptable.
I am not saying that it is noble or whatever, just that this kind of horde fits warcraft more, than tree-hugging idiots, who look more like green humans, not orcs
tbh. Alliance was pretty badass in those times too. Deterined, strong willed and not forgiving. In WC2 times alliance had the strongest army ever. And in terms of units. Archers were probaby better than trolls, ogres were better than paladins and mages were pretty balanced. Rest of units were same.
orc with emotions and rich inner world sounds like juden SS. Im not saying it cannot be - im raged at blizzard cause they traded old horde for new one in with commercial purposes, to get more people playing their games, because you know, most kids and adults dont like to play for "evil side"
Not really. In Warcraft 3, Blizzard was still selling to the common pc gamer crowd. Aside from the retcon ,they didn't sell out. And what the hell are you talking about with most people not liking to play the evil side? Most people I know think of them as "badass". Anyway, I like WC2's Horde over Garrosh's pretentious one.
Blizz didn't get rights for WH and WH40k so they created WC and SC. Today hammers and crafts aren't that simmiliar at all. WC start to lose WH badassness in WC3 and completely lost in WoW.
i dont play wow since kataklysm, and wow for me is not a warcraft.(just a personal opinion) but still, all that you have described fits that oldschool horde from wc1-2, with all bloodthirsty, lack of compromise and struggle among its own ranks ( Orgrimm killed Blackhand, Durotan was killed by Gul'Dan spies, Guldan's forces were anihilated by doomhammer etc)
Not forgiving? Lothar tried to make peace with the Orcs and the Human commander allowed them to flee at the end of the campaign. And the Alliance wasn't the strongest army. The whole niche of the Alliance was a bunch of weaker races banding together against a larger, brutish threat.
nothing about demonic corruption was said in wc1-2. And yes,in early warcrafts IT IS"simply deciding to invade Azeroth for sh*ts and giggles because they were evil". Everything about demonic taint bullshit was prepared for wc 3,which was starting platform for WoW. I won't argue about wc3 and wow, because whats done is done,but for me blizzard games are going in a wrong way.Just look at starcraft2- here we can see that zergs were actualy GOOD guys, and were forced to to bad things.Same story huh?
Alright, I'm sorry. I just think in my honest opinion tales like Lord of the Rings wouldn't be too compelling if Sauron wanted to take over Middle-Earth because he was just evil.
Wouldn't know since space-related games don't interest me. Also I prefer characters to have depth to them instead of being blank slates that do evil for evil reasons because they're evil. See, nothing in entertainment would make sense if characters were evil for no reason.
All this 'Blizz split from GW' talk is garbage. May as well say Blood Bowl was inspired by Rock and Roll racing. Fact is, it was the 90s and every game had to be about characters with names like 'Kargath Bladefist' because that was edgy and cool. GW just rolled with it too.
just facts, nothing more. Alliance got lucky that day, and whats so bad about garrosh horde? Seriosly, i hate that bullshit with "corrupted" horde like Blizz did in Wc3 and WoW, now they are pathetic creatures, we are supposed to feel sympathy for.
realy? there were 25 women in my guild (WoW), and they all were playing fucking BLOOD ELVES. And most of men were playing same BLOOD ELVES, talking that orcs are fucking ugly and smell >_> This is perfect horde? or may be badass? Anyway, community spoled this game, and blizzard adopted to them. Warcraft 3 was cybersport game - pro gamers do not care about lore. And all others cryed, touched by Arthas's "deep" tragedy and other bullshit, like "and they all united, and defeted dreadful enemy"...
I just find it kind of weird how people are supportive of the Dark Horde. I'd be even more surprised if anyone supports Garrosh's Horde, which is no different from the Drak Horde.
![1 Orc vs 7 Computers [4K]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/7BWNchvzG1Y/mqdefault.jpg)
I used to get a kick out of doing the ogre’s annoyed comments during this track from 1:09 to 1:36. The sheer silliness of the ogre against such harsh music always made me laugh
Lmao. I like the way you think
1:16 you can hear this part in Orc 2 theme from Warcraft 3, but more stoic and less warlike, which makes sense for Thrall's Horde. It's amazing how this music still holds up. I wish we had pre-WoW Blizzard around, although, I would argue, music is the only thing that still isn't disappointing in the more recent Blizzard games.
They completely remade Orc 2 for Warcraft 3.
These songs really characterize what it's like to work for Ner'Zhul: the bounty is enough to give you super powers, but the punishment is death. The Warlock Warchief does not accept defeat from his subordinates.
@@DocJamesH Ner'zhul was not a warlock, he was more like a dark shaman.
This soundtrack is 1000x better than Warcraft 3
Oh really? Never noticed it
@@High_Priest_Jonko unlike the game. It's such a shame they never got to make a remaster with better pathfinding, higher resolution and controls. Sorta like that bootleg Warcraft 2000 game, but official and even better
This soundtrack is just amazing. This makes me wish I could get my warcraft 2 to work on my Vista
Still not working on Vista?
@@docktordicking2852 I have no idea lol that was 11 years ago
I think Good old games might have a working version.
And even then, he just wanted them to be proper conquerors. He was still right-committed to making the human race a mere memory.
omg the orc is just too badass i love the savage horde better than the one now....
gosh i love warcraft 2 artwork pictures... so beautifull
Warcraft 2 Orcs: Demonic Vikings
Warcraft 3 and WoW Orcs: Native Americans
More like WoW Orcs: Conan the Barbarian and the Cimmerians.
@@AidanMclaren But Conan was cool, WoW Orcs are pussies that cry about honor while sitting in mudhuts. Bring back the real Horde from WC1/WC2.
Warcraft 2 Orcs were actually under the effect of a demonic rage, they're more peaceful and respectful in the sequel because they are no more under the effect of the magic of Zul'dan
@@andraken isn't it Gul'dan?
@@clarencegutsy7309 idk what you're on about. wc1 orcs were the ones who lived in mud huts, wow orcs live in orgrimmar.
I'M ALIIIIIIVE!
not to mention, that alliance won only cause by the time of final battle for Lordaeron, Gul'Dan took 2 clans to search Sargeras tomb, and angry Doomhammer took another clans to search the traitors. So basicaly it was 1/3 of the horde army, that was fighting the alliance in lordaeron.
This will always and forever, be my favorite warcraft song.... R.I.P - Dark-Horde, lok'tar.
OMG the nostalgia, I have to get a 90s computer
That orc has a god damn Chaos undivided star tattoo
epic concept art. that's the pic I remember the best.
An oilrig has collapsed. Dangit. Now I gotta go find my cds D:
Even if this music is nostalgic for me, I have to say that the Starcraft 1 Terran music really beats nothing. One of, if not the best music-track in any game ever made.
back in the days when orcs were actually vicious
What's wrong with a Horde led by a guy who; 1. has no sense of compromise, 2. kills at the drop of a hat, 3. kills one of his fellow leaders, 4. alienates and later tries to kill another fellow leader, 5. literally nukes a city, 6. declares genocide on an entire race, 7. decides he wants to conquer a newfound continent and 8. wants to use a force originating from the Old Gods, who were directly responsible for the Cataclysm, as a weapon. I'm pretty sure those eight pointers speak for themselves
Heh. The Orcs we have now are a weird combination of Japanese-Hunnish-Africans.
Kind of a long shot considering that there's a well established lore that the orcs weren't evil in the beginning. Demons like Kil'jaeden and Sargeras were around since WC2, and the orcs simply deciding to invade Azeroth for sh*ts and giggles because they were evil would have made for a lame excuse even in the early nineties. Not to mention making the New Horde evil right after WC3, where they helped kill one of the Legion's lords (Archimonde), would have been a plot hole the size of Canada.
You forget that in warcraft 2 orcs could win if you played as them and who wouldn't they have better music units and spells . Thats the best part about this games you can control the stories ending and crush the elves stronghold and the humans.
@MMLynk Same here....Warcraft II has propably the best in music in RTS genre.
And damn Blizzard....I want my beloved Warcraft back to RTS!
You probably don't want modern Blizzard to make an RTS. They'll botch it just like Starcraft 2.
All the talented people who made their classics aren't there anymore. The next epic RTS will come from somewhere else.
@@KungKras "You probably don't want modern Blizzard to make an RTS. They'll botch it just like Starcraft 2."
THIS. A BILLION, FUCKING GOZILLION TIMES THIS.
yes, i agree the old orc are best
Mark of Chaos, how I shouldn't be surprised.
"Don't you know we are at War?!"
They use warcraft 2 OST during pet battles inside WoW ;-;
Really?
Mostly a problem of the community. When I subbed to Warhammer online, I didn't expect many people to be all that interested in Warhammer lore but in the MMO itself. There were people who treated Dark Elves like fucking, joyful -cheerleaders-
I liked WC3's story. The Orcs were struggling with their violent nature and were carving a place for themselves on their adopted planet. You see what you see, I guess.
And I kind of like the Horde from Classic to Wrath. For a few reasons.
This is basically Doom Hammer's theme.
+No Free Will What are you talking about?
Olagfigh
I dunno, I wrote that more than 2 years ago.
:V
A Guy With Zeratul as His Profile Pic You're damn right
Someone should reply to this in two years
They wrote DoomHammer wanting to do that later.
“Daaaboo.”
I was thinking more along the lines of a proud member of the Horde (the old Horde controlled by the Burning Legion, but still) holding the bloody corpse of a filthy member of the Alliance...but, that works too.
These pictures from the old Warcraft 2 manual...they just make WoW look like crap.
@jimmyhayers Oh yes, Starcraft has some kickass music...and most of C&C games as well =)
But Warcraft II's music is the only one that really brings memories and nostalgia...and the simple reason for that is that Warcraft II was the very first RTS I ever played, when I started to play games in 1996 ...I never actually played Starcraft or C&C games until much later, few years ago actually for the very first time.
there are four hordes, the fel horde, the new horde, the orcish horde and the old horde
Touché
@vegeta353658
He is holding a guy who is all bloody and half dead in his neck and prepares to execute him with an axe while the human is barely conscious. I know it might be a poor explanation but it sure does look a little perverted to me.
You're making me seasick!
yeah warcraft was badass before the mmo. I know, I had all the games :>
may be you are right, by the way most people who only watch lotr movie dont even know that thing) And the name Morgoth is associated with death metal band for them, not Melkor. So they think that its primal evil
@vegeta353658
Perverted doesn't necessarily mean it has to do with sex. I copied this from wikipedia "Perversion is a concept describing those types of human behavior that are a serious deviation from what is considered to be orthodox or normal. Although it can refer to varying forms of deviation, it is most often used to describe sexual behaviors that are seen by an individual as abnormal, repulsive or obsessive" Sorry if I'm acting like a "Know-it-all" and maybe you still don't agree with me.
LOK-TAR OGAR!!!
Yes, and they eventually won the Second War. Not to mention the elves weren't even involved in the first war.
You know, just because the orcs are no longer influenced by demonic bloodlust and don't behave like savages it doesn't mean they're 'treehugging idiots'. In fact, having emotions does not mean one can't be a badass. Seriously, this whole 'emotionless brutality' admiration sounds like something in 90's comic books written by Rob Liefeld and Jim Lee, where showing any emotion other than being pissed off or joyously slaughtering people left and right is considered unacceptable.
With the exception of Goblins, the Horde was made up of physically superior warriors and greater in number.
exception of Goblins, Belves and more recently Vulperas.
I am not saying that it is noble or whatever, just that this kind of horde fits warcraft more, than tree-hugging idiots, who look more like green humans, not orcs
really beats anything* D:
Chaos star tattoo on arm? Interesting ;)
in Warcraft 2 they made the game look so much fun its intense in Warcraft 3 its just slow and sad.
Yes I suppose its stirs the loins to see the way he holds his enemy's bloody head between his big hairy man thighs.
Zug! Zug!
That's exactly what I was saying :P
Look at that pathetic human. He will feel the wrath of the horde
Back when the horde was a Bloody-as-Fuck Horde.
I heard Blizzard split off from GW.
That's why their ideas were originally so similar to Warhammer.(note their original ideas)
And Chris Metzen drew those lol :>
@Balnazzardi Starcraft is on a par with it for me
@Ol0fsson It's not perverted at all, even if it were a woman it wouldn't be perverted.
Now? How long haven't you played lol.
ahh the true days when the horde could not be stopped by silly humans and weak elves long live the HORDE!
This picture perfectly illustrates how every orc-human encounter should end if you are a true-blooded orc hehe
twilight hammer clan
@Ol0fsson Somewhat.
tbh. Alliance was pretty badass in those times too. Deterined, strong willed and not forgiving. In WC2 times alliance had the strongest army ever. And in terms of units. Archers were probaby better than trolls, ogres were better than paladins and mages were pretty balanced. Rest of units were same.
They do for WoW, even for patches.
0:31-1:09 Is all I need
@blacksuntgl sc1 of course haha
you forgot to add "IMHO"
@Ol0fsson How?
This is pirate themes here! :D
Except the Orcs needed help too. From Trolls, Ogres and Goblins.
orc with emotions and rich inner world sounds like juden SS. Im not saying it cannot be - im raged at blizzard cause they traded old horde for new one in with commercial purposes, to get more people playing their games, because you know, most kids and adults dont like to play for "evil side"
Not really. In Warcraft 3, Blizzard was still selling to the common pc gamer crowd. Aside from the retcon ,they didn't sell out. And what the hell are you talking about with most people not liking to play the evil side? Most people I know think of them as "badass". Anyway, I like WC2's Horde over Garrosh's pretentious one.
Tauren?
Blizz didn't get rights for WH and WH40k so they created WC and SC. Today hammers and crafts aren't that simmiliar at all. WC start to lose WH badassness in WC3 and completely lost in WoW.
i dont play wow since kataklysm, and wow for me is not a warcraft.(just a personal opinion) but still, all that you have described fits that oldschool horde from wc1-2, with all bloodthirsty, lack of compromise and struggle among its own ranks ( Orgrimm killed Blackhand, Durotan was killed by Gul'Dan spies, Guldan's forces were anihilated by doomhammer etc)
Not forgiving? Lothar tried to make peace with the Orcs and the Human commander allowed them to flee at the end of the campaign.
And the Alliance wasn't the strongest army. The whole niche of the Alliance was a bunch of weaker races banding together against a larger, brutish threat.
But the humans still won in the end. Funny thing ain't it?
nothing about demonic corruption was said in wc1-2. And yes,in early warcrafts IT IS"simply deciding to invade Azeroth for sh*ts and giggles because they were evil". Everything about demonic taint bullshit was prepared for wc 3,which was starting platform for WoW. I won't argue about wc3 and wow, because whats done is done,but for me blizzard games are going in a wrong way.Just look at starcraft2- here we can see that zergs were actualy GOOD guys, and were forced to to bad things.Same story huh?
Alright, I'm sorry. I just think in my honest opinion tales like Lord of the Rings wouldn't be too compelling if Sauron wanted to take over Middle-Earth because he was just evil.
garrosh aint got nothing on the old orcs, google "grom hellscream wc2 thumb" and look at that, his face covered in blood thats a real orc
But we are still savage. We just apologize to the people we disembowel now :D
@thedonoftrek LOL XD
They have to top War3? Holy shit man that's an ask.
It's not half as bad as all the power ranger, dragonball, sci fi and Kung Fu Panda stuff though.
1:36
Wouldn't know since space-related games don't interest me. Also I prefer characters to have depth to them instead of being blank slates that do evil for evil reasons because they're evil. See, nothing in entertainment would make sense if characters were evil for no reason.
All this 'Blizz split from GW' talk is garbage. May as well say Blood Bowl was inspired by Rock and Roll racing. Fact is, it was the 90s and every game had to be about characters with names like 'Kargath Bladefist' because that was edgy and cool. GW just rolled with it too.
Usammity Meh. Still fun to fight over it with people who like both.
But... the Alliance won...
just facts, nothing more. Alliance got lucky that day, and whats so bad about garrosh horde? Seriosly, i hate that bullshit with "corrupted" horde like Blizz did in Wc3 and WoW, now they are pathetic creatures, we are supposed to feel sympathy for.
realy? there were 25 women in my guild (WoW), and they all were playing fucking BLOOD ELVES. And most of men were playing same BLOOD ELVES, talking that orcs are fucking ugly and smell >_>
This is perfect horde? or may be badass? Anyway, community spoled this game, and blizzard adopted to them. Warcraft 3 was cybersport game - pro gamers do not care about lore. And all others cryed, touched by Arthas's "deep" tragedy and other bullshit, like "and they all united, and defeted dreadful enemy"...
If you think Warcraft 3 is bad, then stay away from the abomination that is World of Warcraft...
I just find it kind of weird how people are supportive of the Dark Horde. I'd be even more surprised if anyone supports Garrosh's Horde, which is no different from the Drak Horde.
I think it is repulsive. And to draw such a picture is to me somewhat perverted. Do you understand what I am trying to say?