Gen 6 should be an interesting one, given it's labeled the hardest gen to get every mon in, as someone who did it without glitches, can for sure say I am never getting rid of my OR save, that took so long to get done and I even shiny hunted Ho-Oh on it and that by itself took me 10 years thanks to crappy rng....that Ho-Oh will stay with me forever with everything I went through for it.
actually gen 6 is considered the easiest gen to complete the nat dex in, since it needs the fewest games of any gen, the hardest gen is 3 since it requires every gen 3 game besides emerald and a gamecube or wii
@@turtly4360 Gen 6 isn't bad if you did every event for it, if you didn't then no it's the hardest...Gen 3 was easier even without events. Of course we have ways to make those events easier for people who missed them but it was also annoying thanks to the total dex being as high as it was. Gen 3 was only bad for Jirachi which people have found methods of obtaining...
@@Arcanuaand how do event exclusives make gen 6 "hard"? every gen has at least one pokemon not available legitimately anymore. and jirachi isn't one of them lol, that one is still obtaininable two ways in gen 3, US Colosseum bonus disc, and PAL region Pokemon Channel.
It's also good for the brain and social independence. Way better to talk to someone in their language at a dinner intermediately than read off a screen
So something I find interesting is the backup save info at 23:40 is technically not entirely true. The gen 3 games also have a backup save available to them in the case of save file corruption
since you mentioned the sane guy mark hunting shiny sword trio in gen8 wanted to share that my shiny hunt was lucky since i just realized that all 3 had marks when i got their shinies also, love this old gen series
Before gen 5 each region was just based off of a region in Japan which is a single nation, so from there the name stuck even after later regions became based off of different nations.
Cubchoo is in the wild in Black 2, what are you talking about? It appears on Route 7 if during winter at a 5% chance iirc. (The route before reversal mountain). Its the 1 way to get a early beartric.
It is winter only, 25%. Was probably consulting the paper™️ while i was scripting that part, and had decided it was either for breeding or getting in the original games
you wouldn’t use tepig as your starter for a speedrun. current meta is switching your starter out for a lillipup. reason being that every pokemon has a unique drop animation whenever thrown in, the heavier, the longer. so, instead of using a heavy emboar, you opt for a light lillipup. although it’s a couple seconds saved, those couple of seconds snowball due to how many battles you have to do. lillipup also has some pretty good matchups against the gym leaders.
23:40 i could have sworn gen 3 had an (effectively) backup save system. i know i heard from an im a blisy video that gen 3’s carts have two sections in flash memory dedicated to saves that the game alternates between. idk maybe i’m crazy
I want to learn Japanese someday because a lot of video games I love are from Japanese game devs, and localization tends to change a lot of stuff. I'd love to see if there's any significant differences in the Japanese versions of games like Yo-Kai Watch compared to the English localization. And I specifically mentioned Yo-Kai Watch because Yo-Kai Watch 3 is pretty well known in that regard for having the Japanese version have English text since the protag is literally moving to America. They didn't lean into the idea that it was Japan in the West, so it's more so like moving from Seattle to New York or something I'm assuming. I live in Washington State but have never left the West coast, so idk
0:58 I feel you, still haven't played Black or White as I didn't get into Pokemon until later and oof... Those games are expensive. You made me look at the sub button, I thought that I was subscribed, but was not! Problem solved!
Thank you for the spiel about ACE NOT being cheating. I've talked to people in person and half the time they just think it's the same as cheating/hacking the game when it is substantially different from that.
I mean, it is cheating. You're exploiting the game in ways it wasn't intended for. Does it require skill/effort? Absolutely. But it doesn't mean it isn't cheating. It's not truly legitimate, and it's not in a gray area like the DNS exploit or using a distribution cartridge in the modern day.
@@PuppeteerGaming Exploits are not cheating it is glitching. There is a distinct difference. Respectfully, you have an incorrect definition of cheating.
"ACE NOT being cheating" It literally is cheating It's fine to cheat but trying to do some weird moralist bullshit over it is so weird Touch grass or something
in the end its still manipulating the game in a way it wasnt even a bit intended, it's true its weird to frame it as the same as AR or even pkhex and also frame it as "immoral" (like its videogame, were just doing what brings the most fun for each one), but to the eyes of other people it's basically cheating for a reason, you could show this to a dev and they may be impressed but they would know thats something you are not supposed to do lol
AI Translation wont be replacing learning a new language anytime soon, or ever for that matter. First up: Translating stuff is hard. Japanese, for example relies _heavily_ on context and has grammar completely different from english. This makes translating from one language to the other really hard. Machine translation is incredibly bad at this because you need to do a lot of filling in the gaps rewriting sentences in order to have them make sense in english. You cant just translate word by word and then move them around a bit to fit the grammar. Next up: theres some things you just... cant translate? For example, "Sie" in german is both a third-person female pronoun _and_ a generic pronoun to use when you want to be polite. You cant really translate that into english, you need to figure out on a sentence by sentence basis how to best represent the information that word is meant to convey instead of translating it literally, which a machine translator will probably never be able to do as good as humans. Machine translators can get you like 60% of the way. Theyre usually good enough to get the gist of what a sentence is saying, but theyll often just fail miserably or lose a ton of nuance, and because language is really really complicated and doesnt have any clear rules, I doubt that will ever change, or at least not anytime soon.
7:04 flow and emotional expression - asking an AI or even another human to translate something for you just isn't as accurate at getting the message you want, which is the whole point of languages in the first place. being able to speak it yourself in real life is good for person-to-person interactions in other countries, or just with other people who don't speak your native language. learning a language also seems to change the way you approach problem-solving in some cases, due to the way the grammar is structured. you may start to think slightly differently, which could be useful. and finally, i want to learn japanese so i can write/sing lyrics in it. again, you could technically use ai, but it would suck and wouldn't rhyme or sound poetic at all.
I have been going through white 2 in challenge mode and catching every pokemon on each out and getting my stamp before moving on. Just finished Victory road and the elite 4 and starting on the post game cleanup for the rest of the dex. Hoping Leaf green, and all the gen 4 and 5 games will be enough to complete the national dex. I have a treeko mudkip and torchip already from hg/ss runs. Not if sure if I still need ruby or not
@trailspokemon Thank you. I've been trying to figure this out for a while. Keep up the great content👍. Btw Rowlet is the best starter. The only starter I would consider not evolving.
i will subscribe to you for 3 things. 1 - i like your content 2 - i want to support you 3 - how the f did you put the raimbow thing on the subscribe button wth
It is allways sad for me to see people buying japanese games because the english games are too expensive I own most of the Games since Childhood and only bought Heartgold as the last missing game for a bloated price... the rest was very actually cheap to get... The market is a shitshow right now and nobody HAS to overpay but still.... language (especially with different letters) is a very big compromise for me.... and it feels like the biggest downgrade of all
That part about trying to explain how Arbitrary Code Execution isn't cheating was so fucking cringe dude The fact that you need to use a glitch to even do Arbitrary Code Execution already means it's cheating It's fine to cheat but that part was genuinely so cringe
He wasn't really wrong though. One exploits internal code already baked into the game (ACE) while the other injects external code (gameshark). They can both be considered cheating, but it's just explaining the difference between the two and why one is considered valid for speedrunning while the other isn't.
The comparison was if it's a cheating device. It's something the game can do, and it's done all in game. A cheating device like an Action Replay is injecting it via outside means. That's what matters, that's what he was saying. He literally said that it's ok if you view it as less legitimate then just catching the Pokemon. He said his opinion by doing it, you have clearly stated yours.
This would be way more interesting if you didn't glitch gen 4. It undermines the spirit of the challenge. You insist that it isn't cheating, but you made the rules. What is the fundamental difference between cheating pokemon into your party with an AR and glitching pokemon into your party with ACE? The end result is the same. Presumably you did this to cut down on the number of different games you needed to own and to heavily simpify routing. Simplifying the routing defeats the point of the challenge, and while I understand not wanting to buy more games, in the real world people can easily emulate these games with ROMs that cost nothing.
I'm undermining the spirit of a speedrun by doing something to go faster. Riiight... And "the end result is the same" actually works against your argument. Why soft reset to get a shiny legendary with random stats, when I could pkhex a shiny legendary with random stats. The end result is the same, right?
@@trailspokemon Speedruns aren't just about going fast. Communities place restrictions on categories to keep the challenge competitive and entertaining. If you need an example of ACE killing a speedrun community, look no further than OOT. Just because it can be done, that doesn't mean it should be done, the journey is more important than the destination. I don't see how that works against my argument. The fact that it is challenging gives it purpose. Generating shinies in PKHeX is not challenging. Generating pokemon using ACE is not challenging. Routing and executing a speedrun to obtain all pokemon as they were intended to be obtained is challenging.
@@georgejpg Anything is a challenge when you try to do it as fast as possible with minimal mistakes. Glitched speedruns don't intrinsically lack challenge from Glitchless speedruns, the challenges are just different. For Glitched runs going as fast as possible is the goal, and part of the challenge is the discovery and practical application of the glitches that are used. And for example, just because you can beat sm 64 with 0 stars doesn't mean it's not challenging. Sometimes it takes people longer to do DDD skip for the first time than it would take them to finish the game with 70 stars. The challenge is different. My challenge was to get the shiny charm from scratch as fast as I could. So that's what I did. That has its own challenges, and a glitchless version has its own separate challenges.
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"Getting lucky is not a crime" 💀
Here's your 69th Like.
Befitting.
Gen 6 should be an interesting one, given it's labeled the hardest gen to get every mon in, as someone who did it without glitches, can for sure say I am never getting rid of my OR save, that took so long to get done and I even shiny hunted Ho-Oh on it and that by itself took me 10 years thanks to crappy rng....that Ho-Oh will stay with me forever with everything I went through for it.
actually gen 6 is considered the easiest gen to complete the nat dex in, since it needs the fewest games of any gen, the hardest gen is 3 since it requires every gen 3 game besides emerald and a gamecube or wii
@@turtly4360 Gen 6 isn't bad if you did every event for it, if you didn't then no it's the hardest...Gen 3 was easier even without events. Of course we have ways to make those events easier for people who missed them but it was also annoying thanks to the total dex being as high as it was. Gen 3 was only bad for Jirachi which people have found methods of obtaining...
@@Arcanuagen 3 is one of the most brutal national dexes, you have to play so many long games including the gamecube titles
@@Arcanuaand how do event exclusives make gen 6 "hard"? every gen has at least one pokemon not available legitimately anymore. and jirachi isn't one of them lol, that one is still obtaininable two ways in gen 3, US Colosseum bonus disc, and PAL region Pokemon Channel.
I had a really easy time getting a living dex in Y. I wouldn't say it's even close to the hardest Gen to get every Pokemon in.
That "Getting lucky isnt a crime" made me spit out my waffle lmao
I believe that makes this the longest speedrun ever to include ACE anywhere in it, by a large margin.
@5:28 You didn't have to put me in a spotlight lol
have you gotten it yet lmao
@@le_beks Unfortunately not yet Virizion is being quite an ass when it comes to marks
@@PotatoOddityhow many shiny Verizon have you reset over the
@@JoshFromDiscord26 phases currently
OH SNAP new trails video 👀
I like your content
Reshiram and Zekrom have catch rates of 45
These are much higher than the typical catch rate of 3 since they’re important to the story
AI is really bad with dense meaning languages and often just makes things up. It will always be worth learning a new language.
It's also good for the brain and social independence. Way better to talk to someone in their language at a dinner intermediately than read off a screen
We get it you will do push ups for each like
bet
@@trailspokemondahm
@@trailspokemonuh oh
@@trailspokemon video when?
1:50 riolu probably did love you, but your game was at night. Riolu only evolves during the day
Wow. I wasn’t wearing a tuxedo before now. Why am I wearing it as soon as I hit this video?
9:18 "Getting lucky is not a crime" xD that was slipped in there so well I almost missed it at first
If I had to guess, the reason Riolu took so long to evolve was because it evolves only during the day
definitely didnt miss every single one of these streams
surely
was too fast
No streams for this?! SOOOO WORTH IT! We love Milo we love trails we love borb. ❤
I’ve never even beaten the game of black and white and I started it 5 years ago
So something I find interesting is the backup save info at 23:40 is technically not entirely true. The gen 3 games also have a backup save available to them in the case of save file corruption
catches zekrom in one ball, but cant find a kakuna for hours....god I love RNG
since you mentioned the sane guy mark hunting shiny sword trio in gen8
wanted to share that my shiny hunt was lucky since i just realized that all 3 had marks when i got their shinies
also, love this old gen series
I never understood why it’s called the National Dex instead of the International Dex
Before gen 5 each region was just based off of a region in Japan which is a single nation, so from there the name stuck even after later regions became based off of different nations.
I know the guy that’s mark hunting the virision
Save file backup actually started in Gen 3.
Cubchoo is in the wild in Black 2, what are you talking about? It appears on Route 7 if during winter at a 5% chance iirc. (The route before reversal mountain). Its the 1 way to get a early beartric.
It is winter only, 25%. Was probably consulting the paper™️ while i was scripting that part, and had decided it was either for breeding or getting in the original games
9:20 heard that one before
you wouldn’t use tepig as your starter for a speedrun. current meta is switching your starter out for a lillipup. reason being that every pokemon has a unique drop animation whenever thrown in, the heavier, the longer. so, instead of using a heavy emboar, you opt for a light lillipup. although it’s a couple seconds saved, those couple of seconds snowball due to how many battles you have to do. lillipup also has some pretty good matchups against the gym leaders.
23:40 i could have sworn gen 3 had an (effectively) backup save system. i know i heard from an im a blisy video that gen 3’s carts have two sections in flash memory dedicated to saves that the game alternates between. idk maybe i’m crazy
Me working on mine for four months…. time to pick up the pace lmao.
I'm actually working on a living dex in oras, with only the gen 6 games and I'd love to see you do it as fast as possible!
5:32 I was doing my own shiny Virizion hunt in shield. Turns out, that Shiny Virizion I have sports the Rare Mark
yooo thats my objective now, just bought an old dslite and black 2 in japanese letsgooo
Now you're making me wonder if I should try hunting to get all of the W2 Dex since I have Black White 2, and SS along with HG from roms on 3DS
Should've caught rowlett to prevent hackers
The ultimate challenge, go back to Legends Arceus and get every Pokémon shiny including the distortion dinosaurs and Weavile
4:36 it's walking tim🎉e
That’s crazy. I recently started replaying and my riolu evolved at level 21 💀
How/where did you bought these Japanse pokemon games? Im looking for authenthic ones
eBay. The Japanese games in general don’t have piracy problems. They’re less expensive cause there’s less demand for them
Nice a fellow national dex in BW2 completer
hahahah i had used THE PAPER for my living dex in bdsp aswell
HIS DRAGONS ARE LIKE MY ZAPADOS IN FIRE RED (FIRST BALL FOR BOTH OF US!!!)
I want to learn Japanese someday because a lot of video games I love are from Japanese game devs, and localization tends to change a lot of stuff. I'd love to see if there's any significant differences in the Japanese versions of games like Yo-Kai Watch compared to the English localization. And I specifically mentioned Yo-Kai Watch because Yo-Kai Watch 3 is pretty well known in that regard for having the Japanese version have English text since the protag is literally moving to America. They didn't lean into the idea that it was Japan in the West, so it's more so like moving from Seattle to New York or something I'm assuming. I live in Washington State but have never left the West coast, so idk
0:58 I feel you, still haven't played Black or White as I didn't get into Pokemon until later and oof... Those games are expensive. You made me look at the sub button, I thought that I was subscribed, but was not! Problem solved!
Also have been thoroughly enjoying your videos and thanks for making them!
Would you be able to post a link of the paper list you made for the challenge?
Thank you for the spiel about ACE NOT being cheating. I've talked to people in person and half the time they just think it's the same as cheating/hacking the game when it is substantially different from that.
I mean, it is cheating. You're exploiting the game in ways it wasn't intended for. Does it require skill/effort? Absolutely. But it doesn't mean it isn't cheating. It's not truly legitimate, and it's not in a gray area like the DNS exploit or using a distribution cartridge in the modern day.
@@PuppeteerGaming Exploits are not cheating it is glitching. There is a distinct difference. Respectfully, you have an incorrect definition of cheating.
"ACE NOT being cheating"
It literally is cheating
It's fine to cheat but trying to do some weird moralist bullshit over it is so weird
Touch grass or something
@@anonanonymous9670 You’re pathetic it literally does not fit the definition of cheating. “They hated Jesus because he told the truth.”
in the end its still manipulating the game in a way it wasnt even a bit intended, it's true its weird to frame it as the same as AR or even pkhex and also frame it as "immoral" (like its videogame, were just doing what brings the most fun for each one), but to the eyes of other people it's basically cheating for a reason, you could show this to a dev and they may be impressed but they would know thats something you are not supposed to do lol
AI Translation wont be replacing learning a new language anytime soon, or ever for that matter. First up: Translating stuff is hard. Japanese, for example relies _heavily_ on context and has grammar completely different from english. This makes translating from one language to the other really hard. Machine translation is incredibly bad at this because you need to do a lot of filling in the gaps rewriting sentences in order to have them make sense in english. You cant just translate word by word and then move them around a bit to fit the grammar. Next up: theres some things you just... cant translate? For example, "Sie" in german is both a third-person female pronoun _and_ a generic pronoun to use when you want to be polite. You cant really translate that into english, you need to figure out on a sentence by sentence basis how to best represent the information that word is meant to convey instead of translating it literally, which a machine translator will probably never be able to do as good as humans.
Machine translators can get you like 60% of the way. Theyre usually good enough to get the gist of what a sentence is saying, but theyll often just fail miserably or lose a ton of nuance, and because language is really really complicated and doesnt have any clear rules, I doubt that will ever change, or at least not anytime soon.
Yooo trails got a video partner 👀👀
7:04 flow and emotional expression - asking an AI or even another human to translate something for you just isn't as accurate at getting the message you want, which is the whole point of languages in the first place.
being able to speak it yourself in real life is good for person-to-person interactions in other countries, or just with other people who don't speak your native language.
learning a language also seems to change the way you approach problem-solving in some cases, due to the way the grammar is structured. you may start to think slightly differently, which could be useful.
and finally, i want to learn japanese so i can write/sing lyrics in it. again, you could technically use ai, but it would suck and wouldn't rhyme or sound poetic at all.
Would love to do it too,but unfortunately I have only Pokemon white and white 2 and I can’t obtain version exclusives
I have been going through white 2 in challenge mode and catching every pokemon on each out and getting my stamp before moving on.
Just finished Victory road and the elite 4 and starting on the post game cleanup for the rest of the dex.
Hoping Leaf green, and all the gen 4 and 5 games will be enough to complete the national dex.
I have a treeko mudkip and torchip already from hg/ss runs.
Not if sure if I still need ruby or not
Wait, I just wanna clear up. Is there any way to complete the dex without the Mythical Pokemon? Or is it required?
You don’t need mythical for the charm, but to complete the dex entirely you would
@trailspokemon Thank you. I've been trying to figure this out for a while. Keep up the great content👍. Btw Rowlet is the best starter. The only starter I would consider not evolving.
I don’t know how to explain but you look like your voice if ya know what I mean?
Is it possible to do this in Pokémon Oras?
I've always wanted to do this but me and my friends only ever had Black 2 so we could never obtain version exclusive pokemon 😭
connect to wifi and get version exclusives online
wait how do you get celebi
Love your videos man, this is what pokemon is all about
11:12 wtf are you a Simply fan? StemDespair
Don't feel bad about the dude resetting for the mark shiny Verizion. It really is a super easy hunt, and they are likely using automation.
Just a question you love rowlet but why is your profile pic a purple owl?
Its a purple rowlet
does bro have a pokedeath wish?
You are underrated ❤
Teehee I have a complete mainline pokemon game collection in English 🙂↔️
i will subscribe to you for 3 things.
1 - i like your content
2 - i want to support you
3 - how the f did you put the raimbow thing on the subscribe button wth
THERE IS A EXP SHARE ???????????????????? WHERE
IS THAT ????
wonderful video :D
you have a nice voice
from the future, video is really goosd guys watch it all the way through
but johto is the best region :(
Johto IS the best region
Yup and now you look sus😭
Respect
HELO. COMMENT FOR THE ALGO-RYTHM GOD. ALSO I LOVE YOU IN A PARASOCIAL KINDA WAY. xdxd
Birb
It is allways sad for me to see people buying japanese games because the english games are too expensive
I own most of the Games since Childhood and only bought Heartgold as the last missing game for a bloated price... the rest was very actually cheap to get...
The market is a shitshow right now and nobody HAS to overpay but still.... language (especially with different letters) is a very big compromise for me.... and it feels like the biggest downgrade of all
Awesome 😎
That part about trying to explain how Arbitrary Code Execution isn't cheating was so fucking cringe dude
The fact that you need to use a glitch to even do Arbitrary Code Execution already means it's cheating
It's fine to cheat but that part was genuinely so cringe
Also that part about AI replacing learning a language is really weird too
Of course a cheater also supports AI
He wasn't really wrong though. One exploits internal code already baked into the game (ACE) while the other injects external code (gameshark). They can both be considered cheating, but it's just explaining the difference between the two and why one is considered valid for speedrunning while the other isn't.
The comparison was if it's a cheating device. It's something the game can do, and it's done all in game. A cheating device like an Action Replay is injecting it via outside means. That's what matters, that's what he was saying. He literally said that it's ok if you view it as less legitimate then just catching the Pokemon. He said his opinion by doing it, you have clearly stated yours.
@@anonanonymous9670just because he said AI is gonna do something doesn't mean he endorses it.
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This would be way more interesting if you didn't glitch gen 4. It undermines the spirit of the challenge. You insist that it isn't cheating, but you made the rules. What is the fundamental difference between cheating pokemon into your party with an AR and glitching pokemon into your party with ACE? The end result is the same.
Presumably you did this to cut down on the number of different games you needed to own and to heavily simpify routing. Simplifying the routing defeats the point of the challenge, and while I understand not wanting to buy more games, in the real world people can easily emulate these games with ROMs that cost nothing.
I'm undermining the spirit of a speedrun by doing something to go faster. Riiight... And "the end result is the same" actually works against your argument. Why soft reset to get a shiny legendary with random stats, when I could pkhex a shiny legendary with random stats. The end result is the same, right?
@@trailspokemon Speedruns aren't just about going fast. Communities place restrictions on categories to keep the challenge competitive and entertaining. If you need an example of ACE killing a speedrun community, look no further than OOT. Just because it can be done, that doesn't mean it should be done, the journey is more important than the destination.
I don't see how that works against my argument. The fact that it is challenging gives it purpose. Generating shinies in PKHeX is not challenging. Generating pokemon using ACE is not challenging.
Routing and executing a speedrun to obtain all pokemon as they were intended to be obtained is challenging.
@@georgejpg Anything is a challenge when you try to do it as fast as possible with minimal mistakes. Glitched speedruns don't intrinsically lack challenge from Glitchless speedruns, the challenges are just different. For Glitched runs going as fast as possible is the goal, and part of the challenge is the discovery and practical application of the glitches that are used. And for example, just because you can beat sm 64 with 0 stars doesn't mean it's not challenging. Sometimes it takes people longer to do DDD skip for the first time than it would take them to finish the game with 70 stars. The challenge is different.
My challenge was to get the shiny charm from scratch as fast as I could. So that's what I did. That has its own challenges, and a glitchless version has its own separate challenges.
Erster and i love your Videos
High effort cheating is still just cheating.
Its not cheating lmao
@@SoftFurryThighs Oh, well since you said "lmao" I guess that means you win and nothing you say is wrong. Good job, clown.
First nvm 1 sec.. 1!
First
Video not long enough
I guess I'm the second view since the viwe count says 1
bro the video is better if you dont cheat trust
was interesting until you brought up the glitching. Thumbs down.