All- I just did the drawing and the following are the winners of the four vises: Supreme - David Keller Crown - Gary Hartung Maxcatch - Mike Ney Griffin Spider - Connecticut Angler Please send me an email (matt@savageflies.com) with your mailing address and I'll get these on the way to you within the next day. Thank you to everyone who participated. Make sure to keep watching as we'll have a couple more giveaways next month. Cheers. -Matt
Al- how about I send you the Colorado Angler's vise/kit for your grandsons? It's not the greatest but they'll be able to make it work and start tying a few flies. I have your address so I'll get it in the mail to you later this week. Cheers. -Matt
Thank you for covering some economical choices. I get so frustrated at finding nothing but high dollar tools being talked about. Those of us on fixed incomes just need a little love. Roy
Hi from Rolla MO 🎣🤠 Dave Hughes. I'm using the match catch and it works just fine. I'm tying midges and panfish fly's. The guys at the fly shop all like it. Lite weight and very stable. A good travel vise.
Good review, I just upgraded about a month ago to the griffin. I've found that there is a point you can adjust the rotation tension that allows you to use the rotary function and still be able to keep it stable for fixed position tying, granted it took a lot of trial and error to find that adjustment point. Overall I'm quite happy with it.
I think you're right Brad... it just takes some tweaking to find the right amount of tension. But I can see it being a great vise you'll get a lot of good use out of. Thanks for the note my friend!
I've been using mine for little over a year now and been great. Like you say, you just need to find the right tension and you're good to go. I've never had to lock and unlock it.
Thank you so much for the review on these vises. I’m wanting to get into tying but don’t want to spend a ton of money for a new hobby. After I get started and I’m liking it I will get better equipment. Thanks again. Subscribed
I appreciate it Kenneth! If you're just starting, you can't go wrong with the Supreme. For just over $20, the thing will last a pretty long time, definitely until you're ready to upgrade. And honestly, some people never need to upgrade. There are some good tiers out there who tied on one for decades. :-)
Well thank you my friend! I probably need to do an updated review of some of the models that have come out since I made this video. But even a few years later, I think a couple of these vises would still be on the list for 2023. :-)
@@SavageFlies well, I for one, would welcome more reviews like this. Additionally, reviews about hackle quality/ comparisons between Metz, Whiting, the Hoffman lines, etc. would be more than welcome. I know that I’m confused by them and next to vises, they’re the most expensive thing I consider buying. I know there are other reviews online, but I really appreciate your delivery of information and thoroughness. That said, i know this isn’t your day job, so please know that you’re appreciated for your efforts.
@@TheDrflay3 Thank you so much for these kind words! And I know exactly what you mean about the price of hackle lately. We can spend a couple hundred dollars on a vice, but that could last many many years. We could spend a couple hundred dollars on hackle every year! Now I did do one video that is a primer on hackle which might answer a few of your questions. I didn't compare every brand out there but I did talk about a few. It's an old video but the info is still accurate. th-cam.com/video/J56c-Avq2I0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=aIdCr0kn7Cvx7ltt
Well done Matt. I’ve actually been looking at a couple of the vises you reviewed in this “Under $100” list. I think I’m going to purchase the Maxcatch. It looks like a decent quality for the money. I’ve purchased a few things from Maxcatch over the past 2 years and have been pleasantly surprised with the quality and customer service. Thank you for such an informative video review.
I have a griffin like that one I've tied on for 10 years you can adjust the tension so it stays put but can still be a rotoryand never have to adjust it again I love mine
Been tying on the max catch for over a year and just now looking to upgrade now that my skills are getting better but it's been a solid vise really love it!
Yeah, I was totally surprised too. I was serious that I might pick up one of these for travel. I actually bought a Maxcatch rod a few years ago and it was really a decent rod, and at half the price of my Redingtons in the same type.
Hi from Kansas City 🎣 I was watching your video on vices last week and just plain agreed with you. Good job!!!. I've got more vices than I really need or should have according to my better -half😬 but I was intrigued with the maxcatch so I looked it up in Amazon and gave it a go. The very next afternoon it shows up on the porch and it's everything you said and more. Very nice 👍👍👍🤠!!! Now I'm going to have to wait until may for my better -half to give it to me for My birthday, she snapped that puppy right up!! Thanks again for all the help Dave Hughes 🎣🤠. Hope all's good and well with you and your's.👍
Well my May birthday has come and gone and no vice. My wife has hidden it away and forgot about it. Maybe I 'll get it for christmas.along with the new orvis size one reel I picked up and she's hidden that also. Might be a great Christmas 🎄???.
Well my birthday came and Left to my wife had hidden it away And Couldn't find it sooo Christmas came this year and under the tree was my maxcatch vise come Tuesday I'm going to tye with it. Thanks for your time and knowledge good health for you and your's 🎣🤠 Dave Hughes
I just ordered the $24 Supreme to start out with. So far, the husband still thinks I'm just getting craft supplies. He did think it was odd that I was gathering feathers at the petting farm, some great colors!! 🤷♀️ I figure I'll need to learn this fly tying stuff, since I'm going to teach my soon to be 5 year old granddaughter tankara..and myself. Her and I will probably be loosing many flies
Ha! I love it! If you aren’t losing flies you’re not fishing right! I used to call it a good day if my fish count was higher than my lost fly count. Then I gave up counting. 🤣
@@DivaBClub Maybe, but I think the Supreme is a great choice for a new tier. Whether you start with that or a $40 Crown, if you really get into tying, you'll still be wanting to upgrade in a couple of years. Almost any vise will get the job done, but one that's easier to use will generally make tying more fun. 😃
Well, thank you David! But which vise are you talking about? If you're talking about the standard AA vise... I considered it but it was close enough to the same price point as the Supreme. :-)
@@SavageFlies None other than the Danica Danvise. With its Darth Vader looks, and injection molded construction, it doesn't appeal to everyone. And its hook holding ability is legendary - so powerful you can damage the jaws, if you are ham-handed and get the tension adjustment wrong But I got mine for $44 on sale, and am thoroughly impressed with it. Apparently so are others, as it now has its own knock-offs. Even at retail it comes in just under the $100 mark.
I started to rie on a Danvise Danica vise for 80€. Its a true rotary with Bobbin hollder and material spring. Now i switched to a better Regal substitute for 110€ and i love the simplicity of the design. The Maxcatch vise looks very good and is very cheap, clearly my favorite in your selection.
Thank you my friend. I'm considering the Danvise for another review this spring. A lot of people like that and the Renzetti Traveler. Appreciate you watching!
For a few bucks more I bought the cam version of the Griffen you reviewed. The Griffin Odyssey Spider Cam Vise, is my first and only vise so far. I’ve been tying on it for five years and it has tied tons of flies from 22’s down to 1’s. Fresh to salt. It’s a fantastic beginner vise. You were spot on in how you adjusted the tension to have rotary function yet still enough of a hold to tie normal. It’s how mine is setup and I haven’t adjusted it again for five years. Excellent review and awesome channel. Don’t enter me into the #vise drawing. I’ve already got a cheap vice. Allow someone in need the chance.
Thanks Steven; I really appreciate the feedback! And I'm glad to hear you've gotten five good years out of the Spider Cam. I'm sure you'll get many more out of it!
Yor videos are great and informative. I just started watching them Yesterday as I am new. I ordered the Maximumcatch 3 days ago and received it today.It does feel solid
Randy, that's great to hear! I'm glad you found the channel my friend. Let me know in the comments if you ever have any questions. If you ask a question on the day a video is published, there will likely be some folks eager to jump in and help you out. And I try to get to all comments within the first couple of days as well. Cheers. -Matt
I used a Crown my first couple of years of tying and I really liked it. I thought I might see a Danvise on here as they are a pretty good entry-level in-line rotary. I just noticed the Piscator Sticker on the back wall, cool! Cheers
Thanks Darren. Is the Danvise in-line under $100? I thought it was over so I was planning on reviewing it separately, maybe after the Renzetti Traveler. (And yeah, I've got your sticker right next to mine. I'll have to send you one of mine soon!)
I got the Colorado Anglers kit for Christmas 2020. So far, so good. I know not all the tools are high quality, but I have tied lots of different sizes hooks without slipping. It's also pretty tight, without the wobble. I still want to see about a low cost rotory vice to make Some of my ties easier.
Thanks for the note! I might have been too hard on it, or maybe I just got a wobbly one. But you should definitely give a rotary a try. If you can find the Maxcatch I think you'll love it. 👍
I had to laugh. While I agree wholeheartedly on your assessment I've had one of the Colorado anglers vise and tied on it for about 10 years and have done just fine in MHO. Maybe I don't know what I don't know having never had anything better. Plan is though to step it up to a peak. I thinknits probably a really good value for the money. Thanks for the channel I really enjoy it.
I will say I had to do some engineering to it right off the bat. The base screw wouldn't tighten enough to keep it from spinning and stripped out. I added a nut to the outside of the socket hickey and its worked fine since
That's actually pretty cool to hear William. But get the Peak, seriously! After tying on that for a month, you'll wonder how you ever tied anything with an older style non-rotary vise. When I moved from a Supreme to the Peak, it opened my eyes to how much more fun tying could be! :-)
I have the Colorado Angler as well. I just bought it because I didn’t want to spend 150-200 on equipment if I didn’t like tying. I’m definitely upgrading though because I want a rotary vise.
Yeah, it's funny how some vise prices stay fairly constant over a long time. I think the Peak rotary was $155 for many years. And the basic Supreme has been around $20 forever. Thanks for the note Ken. :-)
thank you for this...I decades ago lost track of the tying kit with vice & base I had as a teenager. I'm going to start tying my own bucktails but don't want to invest in a "better" vice just yet. I won't be tying flies at all, ok at least that's my plan at this microsecond. ;) I will be using 3/0 to 8/0 jig headed hooks or, easier, jig blanks in the 1/8 to 3oz range, maybe even 4oz. If I add a base for $18 (current cost on Amazon) that makes a $50ish range vice so I might up my budget a small bit and look into that range though from looking at Crown at ~$24 and just use the screw down base clamp on a wood TV tray. Thanks again for investing your time to help us newbie's (OK 60-mumble can still be kinda newbie...maybe...kindasorta?)
Ha! I've known lots of folks who didn't start tying until later than that. It is a great hobby for retirement after all. Thanks for the note and welcome to the community my friend. :-)
Once again you are making your channel one of everybody's favorite channels! My daughter is starting to tie with me so if I am lucky enough she will get this #vise . Keep up the great videos!
Brian, you are SO lucky! I've got a 13-year-old daughter and if she can't do it on an iPad or phone, she doesn't want anything to do with it. Maybe I should write a fly tying app! Then again, that would probably be pretty boring. Thanks for the kind words my friend. :-)
I got the Griffin for Christmas and after playing with the rear nuts I was able to get it adjusted to where it would spin with the handle but be steady enough to tie a fly. I've probably tied 300 flies with it so far.
Doug- excellent to hear! A couple other folks said the same thing about the Griffin... and that after you get it adjusted to your liking it'll stay that way with minimal fuss. Thanks for the note!
Another great video,Matt.I may have a vise fetish.I have ten.One thing I have noticed is when a beginner goes to a shop to buy a vise,the first thing out of the salesperson’s mouth is Rezetti.After 25+ years my Griiffin vise works perfectly.Just a matter of adjusting it to get the rotary feature to work.And I can say that I may have abused it as much as my top dollar vises.Having a hard time justifying buying the HMH TRV,don’t need it,whole lot of money,but I want it in my collection.
Ha! I hear you Michael. I've been eyeing an HMH even though I really don't need one. I'm perfectly happy with my Regal Revolution. But who knows... in a few years I might be like you with a dozen vises on my bench. :-)
My excellent Peak Vise has a Plastic Tension-Screw (under the brass part holding the ball bearings) and thank God it's plastic!! Because if this Tension adjustment screw had been steel, I'd end up with metal cutter, albeit a slow one! Have you ever used a Tube-Cutter?! If you haven't please look at the design of a Tube cutter!! A Steel Tension Screw would go through all "commonly" used steel alloys, with the exception of Carbide steel (for example carbide drill bits for Concrete, Marble etc)!😊You're probably more experienced than I am, I was tying seriously for myself in 1978 (for Sea-Run Cutthroat trout, Steelhead, Bull trout and all 5 species of Pacific Salmon). In 1981, I was selling Steelhead flies to fly shops at $6.00 a dozen. Yes I was indeed desperate for money to pay for my college!! And didn't have any skills other than , tutoring college math at school. So in addition to that, I tied flies, and made custom rods. And I don't mean just fly rods as they're very easy to make. I'm talking about elaborate Saltwater rods with Roller guides, decorative thread-wraps (anything from half & half Diamond wraps, Chevron wraps to the U.S. flag + eagles etc. and of course all done by many woven strands of thin thread)!😩My final point is that I could've continued to tie for ever with my basic Universal Vise Company's basic vise!! It all boils down to the fact that most of us, including myself, want better and fancier toys as time goes on!! My Vise through all those years was a $25.00 Universal Vise Co. vise!! Oh it was a Pain to rotate it!! But it didn't impede my ability to tie professional flies! 😃11
Great comment! I've heard from lots of folks who have tied on the old Universal Vise forever! And I know what you're talking about with a steel cutter. But the upgrade Peak offers for their tension screws are brass- which is a significantly softer metal than steel. And if you think about it, what you're talking about is probably why they make them out of brass!
Thanks Matt! I have the Supreme vise and have used it for about 20+ years, great vise, tied from a #2 down to a #20 hook on it. Last month I upgraded to the Peak rotary vise, still finding my setup with it. Thanks for all the videos you make! Keep it up!
Thanks Steve! When you get used to the Peak, I think you'll end up loving it. I went from a Supreme to a Peak, and after a month I was wondering how I ever tied on a non-rotary. :-)
Very nicely done Sir. Definitely enough good information to help a new tyer make an informed decision. This video makes me feel better about my choice of purchasing the Supreme Vice. Plus the fact that you gave these away. What a great gesture. Thank you for a great video.
I kind of fell in love with the master from renzetti but a bit gutted when I found out it wasn’t true rotary for every hook and jaws had only 3 positions still at least I found out before I ordered
Nice tie Matt. Have used Mr. Hughes “American Fly Tying Manual” (second edition 1989). It’s not a big book but is packed full of “how to” and many patterns to boot. 😊That thread splitting tool is way cool. Definitely going on my Christmas list. Hope your weekend is full of family and fun.
Good Evening Sir Matt I loved this video, it takes me back to when I first started tying and wished their was a video to help me than. I love the one with the green and probably save up and get one. I use a spider cam with the clamp first then I purchased a pedestal for it and gotten used to it. Surplus part about that is its lifetime warranty on all parts that's probably why it's a little expensive with that good luck to all the new people I hope you win the vice cuz this is really really fun tying flies and thank you Matt for being a great teacher
Edward, thank YOU my friend! Hopefully having a video out there like this will help some of the new folks who are just getting started. And I think you are right, that the Griffin vises are made in the USA and have a great warranty. Probably why they are just a little more expensive. Have a great week Edward!
Matt thanks to your videos I am going to give fly tying a try. I came across a fly tying vise on eBay called the Mayfly 2A. It is a full true rotary pedestal mounted made in the USA vise for $85. I decided to purchase one figured it had to as good or better than the Chinese imports. Although I don’t have anything to compare it to I am impressed. I would be interested in your thoughts if you got the opportunity to get one and review it for your channel. I believe it is a small business in Arkansas putting these out and I even got a hand written note with mine thanking me for my purchase! A nice touch.
Hi Matt. Enjoyed the review. I was looking at the Griffin Odyssey but then I came across a Mongoose for an excellent deal. After watching your review of it I thought it was the best value for my money so I bought it. Sure glad I chose what I did. Haven’t been able to try it yet (long story) but looking forward to tying on it once I’m home.
Nice job reviewing the vices, I needed that 2 years ago when I needed to replace my junk starter vice. I replaced the second one with a Renzetti Traveler, last summer.
@@SavageFlies I really like it, it does a great job, I fought the jaws of the last vice, no issues with anything moving in the jaws. rotary works well with a lever or knurled knob for rotating. If you want to spin it rapidly, the weight of the jaws will cause a little bouncing. I would buy it again. I got the pedestal base.
I use the Regal knock off that you showed, since about 10 years now, and it still works great. Before that I I tied on a vise similar to the first one you showed, but even cheaper looking. I hope to upgrade to the Stonfo Elite Vise or something similar though.
Thanks Max! Welcome and I'm glad you're here. Let me know in the comments if you ever have any questions or requests. We've got a great community here, lots of interaction between veterans and newbies alike.
I tell you, the Maxcatch I reviewed in this video is a great tying vise. I just picked up another one for myself. I may do a more detailed review of it and do another giveaway. Or I might just keep it for myself. :-) But check it out as it's still only $50 on Amazon: amzn.to/35xlE6Z
Oh, one other note. Look at any of my recent videos for a comment from Mike Ney. He won this vise in the drawing so ask him on one of his comments how he likes the vise. He's a pretty regular viewer and I'm sure will be happy to tell us what he thinks of it.
I discovered your channel while looking for a 'new' vise. Did a search for used vises too. Also like your tying videos. Subscribed yesterday. Is buying a used vise recommended?
Thanks Brian! Generally speaking vises hold up pretty well so if you can save some money with a used one it's not a bad idea. Particularly if you're considering one of the higher end ones with a reputation for lasting forever. Good luck!
Great view reviews. I agree with your assessments. My Supreme Vise from 1995 is still in great shape. Vises in the beginner level tie lots of different size hooks and hat's a plus for me, as I tie for pan fish and bass. #vise
Appreciate it Jim. I'm sure there are TONS of tiers out there who started with the Supreme and still use it. Pretty solid overall choice. Cheers. -Matt
Wow Brian, I'll bet you've got some classic pieces of gear! I'm glad you're getting back into the hobby my friend. And I appreciate you watching my channel. Cheers. -Matt
I’m looking at the Spider, but I’m a buy-once-cry-once consumer. I also avoid Chinese products (human rights, slave labor, etc.) so that limits the field. Thanks for posting these reviews. #vice
The Colorado anglers vice I have that same one I put rubber feet on it it seems to stay put but I would only use it when I'm camping that do make a larger version that I paid 49$ for the one you reviewed I purchased for 29$ the larger version comes with 12 tool a C clamp i also added rubber feet to it much nicer to tie on again for camping
Thanks Mike, and great points! Yeah, I think that vise would work much better with a c-clamp. It's not a bad hook-holder, just way too much wobble on that small pedestal.
Nice review, just got into fly tying I’m 63 old , better late than never ! I’m a surf fisherman from the northeast , we fish with a lot teasers , 2.0 -4.0 don’t know if any of these vises can handle that ! I just tired of buying them , and not being good quality , and also to dresses some single hooks for lures instead of the trebles, thanks would love here your input! Tom
Hi Tom. I love your user name! For all these vises, I think the Crown would be the best at holding a hook as big as 2/0. I don't personally have any hooks that big so I didn't try it, but I did play around enough with it and I'd say it will get that big. One more thing-- it's never too late to get into tying! Thanks for stopping by the channel. It's great to have you here. Cheers. -Matt
Need to look at that griffin again. I like it as much as my renzetti presentation 2000. Just needs a little tweaking. I never lock the rotary. Just tight enough to rotate and not slip otherwise
I enjoyed the overview of the five fly tying vices. I like the idea of you providing the viewer with different aspects of fly tying. I tie my flies on one of two machined fly tying vices I made in my machine shop 45 years ago, one out of aluminum and the other out of brass. I'm very interested in the componets of a fy tying vice. #vice
Thank you Roman! I just saw your email and I have to say, those machined vises you made look amazing! Truly works of art. If I remember correctly HMH made one of those styles. Very nice. I've got you entered my friend. Good luck!
I'm not new to fly tying but I don't own a vise at this time so I don't have a picture. #vise great video though maybe I will be able to start tying again when I get back to work.
No worries Steven, I've got you entered. You've watched and commented on enough of my videos that if you're not actively tying at the moment, I still know you're a tier. :-)
Good reviews my son says he try the kit one to learn on tried to talk him out of it but he says he like to have it if ya still got it thanks for the reviews!
Thanks Richard. I ended up giving the kit to one of the viewers who was getting his grandson into tying. Make sure you watch when I do a book or tool review. I try to give something back to the community at least every month.
I started off with the Supreme but soon wore the jaws out due to my over tightening it. So, I went to the Regale . The main reason that I did is that it cannot over tightened . I've noticed that quite a few Professionals use the Regale .
Oh yeah Dave, the Regal is the best vise I've ever tied with. Of course I've never tried a high-end Renzetti, but I'm happy enough with my Regal that I may never need to try anything else. :-)
Yep, you could do a lot worse then either of those. And having been tying on a Regal for the last two years, I really thought tying on this Regal-clone would be disappointing. But it really wasn't. It just feels really solid and easy to use.
#Vise Hey Matt, its surprising how you have been growing super fast ! I’m following you since you had 958 subscribers and I’m pretty sure that you will have a lot of more subscribers because your content is so original Keep up the great work :D
Thanks you Uzi; I really appreciate the kind words! Having a channel has been fun so far and I'm looking forward to keeping it up for the next several years at least. Cheers. -Matt
Good review Matt. I really like when you teach us about the equipment too. Passing on the giveaway, so that others can win! But if you get channel stickers in Matt, send me one of those!
Dude!! I've had my stickers in for a few weeks... I just keep forgetting to mail them. I've got several people waiting so I'm going to have to get off my butt this week. As always, thanks for watching Sarge. (And oh yeah, I just saw 800+ earlier today. Nice. You're growing just the right way. Solid, engaged community you're building.)
#VISE Matt, I sent the photo of my bench around December 13, 2020. Please let me know if I need to resend it. Many Thanks. I enjoy how you make it look so simple!
#vise i dont really have a bench but this would help to get started with tying ive only tyed about 20 flies and most of them are from you're videos thanks for uploading alot it really helps me learn
Thanks Matt! Just found your channel, and haven’t scoured too much, but I’d be curious to get your take on if there are particular tools worth investing a bit more into. Just such a wide range of offerings, at a wide range of price and would appreciate the insight.
@@jhorkey That's a great question Joe, and one that might be worth making a video of. You've given me something to think about! But in short, I would think the two most important tools not to skimp on are scissors and bobbin holder. I probably buy two good pairs of scissors a year, and by good, I'm talking $20-25 Dr. Slick. Keep in mind that someone who ties a couple times a week might be able to make a good pair of scissors last a couple years. But if you're like me and tie pretty much every day, and don't take good care of scissors (I cut anything with them), then they don't last as long as they could. :-) Next thing I wouldn't want to tie without is a good ceramic tube bobbin holder. You can't go wrong with the Rite bobbins. I've got three or four and they have lasted me several years. There's nothing more frustrating than shredding or breaking your thread because of a microscopic nick in a steel tube bobbin. As far as a vise goes, I really LIKE tying with a nice Regal, but honestly it doesn't make my flies any better. It just makes it more fun to tie. So investing in a high-end vise isn't as important as the basic tools. Just my two cents. Thanks again for the idea, and welcome to the channel! I'm glad you're here. -Matt
@@SavageFlies I appreciate you taking the time to give me your feedback. The bobbin and scissors are the most used, and the ones that came in the kit, vise included are all quite terrible. Going to take the advice on the bobbin and scissors. Will wait till next week to address my vise needs.
Great review Matt! One thing I noticed from the vices you reviewed Matt is that left handed tier's are not being considered in most designs... Please keep doing what you do!!!! #vice
Good point Richard, and I think you're right. One thing I did notice when looking to order a Renzetti Traveler, they do specify if you wan it for a right- or left-handed tier. I haven't seen any other vise manufacturers make that distinction though.
I just started tying, and would like a decent vice...i recently found you with your bench organization vid and love how informative you are. #vise (I have the Gunnison River Kit)
Thank you my friend! I really appreciate the kind words. Now what's your first name? I don't want to respond here with, "Thank you Mission Discover!" :-)
Yes my first vise was a cabelas version of the supreme. It did its job but never held the hooks well, mostly 12 and larger. I eventually went to a griffin mongoose flagship partly because I like gadgets and machined devices. It has hook holding power, however I was surprised to see how much plastic and aluminum had been used in places that would definitely benefit from a better quality material. I understand some of the corners that they cut. But for a rotary vise to have tight and loose areas in its rotation I don’t think they took adequate time for quality control. It is a bit light of a base... I think that most things in the fly fishing world are are a bit expensive for the beginner anglers. Did I mention it holds a hook well. Yes, the supreme vise is a decent one for starting on. I added a bronze washer from hardware store to put under the cam lever for smoother use. But I don’t think they are all created equal.
I think you hit the nail on the head in that the old vises like the Double A or the Supreme are not all made the same. I'll bet over the years they were made in different factories by different manufacturers. I know the Supreme I bought in the 1980s is just a little different from the one I got last week. Overall, very similar, just small little differences here and there. Also, you mention one thing that I don't like so much about a lot of the Griffins... there seems to be more plastic than I would prefer. I mean, the Mongoose is usually a $200+ vise and at that price point you'd think they could have used some decent aluminum or brass in more areas. Thanks for the note!
@@SavageFlies awesome news! Sent an email along this morning. Just figured I'd comment here in case it gets routed to a junk mail folder or something. I've had that happen a couple times before. Thanks so much!
Great review. I tie on a griffin spider cam vise. I like it. I also just purchased a peak vise. I also like it very much. It would be great to give away these vices to young folks who are just getting started. Thanks #vise
#vise I've been tying on the crown since November, upgraded from the Supreme after only a month. Love the crown! The Supreme, wouldn't hold flies well, and would loosen even more when I tried to spin it.
That's a bummer on your Supreme. I wonder if they were made differently 30 years ago or if I just got lucky and got a good one. Glad you like the Crown. Good luck my friend!
@@SavageFlies yeah, I was a bit dissapointed with the supreme. But the crown made up for it! They're also a bit more expensive where I live, compared to your prices. Mainly because I'm Canadian. Lol
Awesome; thanks for the feedback Andrew! Lots of people actually read the comments to see what people think of something being reviewed so thanks for leaving this one. :-)
Thanks for the feedback. I've had two to test and they both held hooks very well. Now I haven't tied on them extensively but I did play around with several different sizes of hooks and it worked fine for me.
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All- I just did the drawing and the following are the winners of the four vises:
Supreme - David Keller
Crown - Gary Hartung
Maxcatch - Mike Ney
Griffin Spider - Connecticut Angler
Please send me an email (matt@savageflies.com) with your mailing address and I'll get these on the way to you within the next day. Thank you to everyone who participated. Make sure to keep watching as we'll have a couple more giveaways next month. Cheers. -Matt
A great review thank you. I wish I would have seen this before I bought my Colorado angler. Sometimes in the middle of a tie it lets go of their look
Matt, I have 3 grandsons, that want to learn to tie. One of this vises would be perfect starter.
#VISE
THANK YOU
Al- how about I send you the Colorado Angler's vise/kit for your grandsons? It's not the greatest but they'll be able to make it work and start tying a few flies. I have your address so I'll get it in the mail to you later this week. Cheers. -Matt
The first vise you reviewed I have. I’ve had it for almost a year and it’s held up really well
Yep, it's certainly a workhorse of a vise! Thanks for watching my friend. :-)
Some of the best reviews I've seen on YT
ive been tying on my crown for 40 years and i tie thousands of flies weekly on it never let me down yet.
Thank you for covering some economical choices. I get so frustrated at finding nothing but high dollar tools being talked about. Those of us on fixed incomes just need a little love.
Roy
Hi from Rolla MO 🎣🤠 Dave Hughes.
I'm using the match catch and it works just fine. I'm tying midges and panfish fly's. The guys at the fly shop all like it. Lite weight and very stable. A good travel vise.
Good review, I just upgraded about a month ago to the griffin. I've found that there is a point you can adjust the rotation tension that allows you to use the rotary function and still be able to keep it stable for fixed position tying, granted it took a lot of trial and error to find that adjustment point. Overall I'm quite happy with it.
I think you're right Brad... it just takes some tweaking to find the right amount of tension. But I can see it being a great vise you'll get a lot of good use out of. Thanks for the note my friend!
I've been using mine for little over a year now and been great. Like you say, you just need to find the right tension and you're good to go. I've never had to lock and unlock it.
Thank you so much for the review on these vises. I’m wanting to get into tying but don’t want to spend a ton of money for a new hobby. After I get started and I’m liking it I will get better equipment. Thanks again. Subscribed
I appreciate it Kenneth! If you're just starting, you can't go wrong with the Supreme. For just over $20, the thing will last a pretty long time, definitely until you're ready to upgrade. And honestly, some people never need to upgrade. There are some good tiers out there who tied on one for decades. :-)
#vise Matt, you continue to bring interest to the fly tying world.
Thank you John! I appreciate the kind words. Cheers. -Matt
Such a great review. Thank you. Even if it is a few years old (by the time i watched it), it was very thorough.
Well thank you my friend! I probably need to do an updated review of some of the models that have come out since I made this video. But even a few years later, I think a couple of these vises would still be on the list for 2023. :-)
@@SavageFlies well, I for one, would welcome more reviews like this. Additionally, reviews about hackle quality/ comparisons between Metz, Whiting, the Hoffman lines, etc. would be more than welcome. I know that I’m confused by them and next to vises, they’re the most expensive thing I consider buying. I know there are other reviews online, but I really appreciate your delivery of information and thoroughness. That said, i know this isn’t your day job, so please know that you’re appreciated for your efforts.
@@TheDrflay3 Thank you so much for these kind words! And I know exactly what you mean about the price of hackle lately. We can spend a couple hundred dollars on a vice, but that could last many many years. We could spend a couple hundred dollars on hackle every year! Now I did do one video that is a primer on hackle which might answer a few of your questions. I didn't compare every brand out there but I did talk about a few. It's an old video but the info is still accurate. th-cam.com/video/J56c-Avq2I0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=aIdCr0kn7Cvx7ltt
@@SavageFlies Thank you for letting me know, I’ll check that one out now.
Well done Matt. I’ve actually been looking at a couple of the vises you reviewed in this “Under $100” list.
I think I’m going to purchase the Maxcatch. It looks like a decent quality for the money. I’ve purchased a few things from Maxcatch over the past 2 years and have been pleasantly surprised with the quality and customer service.
Thank you for such an informative video review.
how is it???
I have a griffin like that one I've tied on for 10 years you can adjust the tension so it stays put but can still be a rotoryand never have to adjust it again I love mine
Been tying on the max catch for over a year and just now looking to upgrade now that my skills are getting better but it's been a solid vise really love it!
I’m surprised just how nice that maxcatch #vise was. Thanks for the great content!
Yeah, I was totally surprised too. I was serious that I might pick up one of these for travel. I actually bought a Maxcatch rod a few years ago and it was really a decent rod, and at half the price of my Redingtons in the same type.
Hi from Kansas City 🎣
I was watching your video on vices last week and just plain agreed with you. Good job!!!. I've got more vices than I really need or should have according to my better -half😬 but I was intrigued with the maxcatch so I looked it up in Amazon and gave it a go. The very next afternoon it shows up on the porch and it's everything you said and more. Very nice 👍👍👍🤠!!! Now I'm going to have to wait until may for my better -half to give it to me for My birthday, she snapped that puppy right up!!
Thanks again for all the help Dave Hughes 🎣🤠. Hope all's good and well with you and your's.👍
Well my May birthday has come and gone and no vice. My wife has hidden it away and forgot about it. Maybe I 'll get it for christmas.along with the new orvis size one reel I picked up and she's hidden that also. Might be a great Christmas 🎄???.
Well my birthday came and Left to my wife had hidden it away And Couldn't find it sooo Christmas came this year and under the tree was my maxcatch vise come Tuesday I'm going to tye with it. Thanks for your time and knowledge good health for you and your's 🎣🤠 Dave Hughes
Love the max catch you sent me in the spring. Lol.
Very nice vise. Yes the attaching knob is it's week point.
I'm glad you're liking if Frank! Thanks for the note my friend. :-)
I just ordered the $24 Supreme to start out with. So far, the husband still thinks I'm just getting craft supplies. He did think it was odd that I was gathering feathers at the petting farm, some great colors!! 🤷♀️
I figure I'll need to learn this fly tying stuff, since I'm going to teach my soon to be 5 year old granddaughter tankara..and myself. Her and I will probably be loosing many flies
Ha! I love it! If you aren’t losing flies you’re not fishing right! I used to call it a good day if my fish count was higher than my lost fly count. Then I gave up counting. 🤣
@@SavageFlies oh no 🤣 maybe I should have stepped up my game and ordered the 40 something one
@@DivaBClub Maybe, but I think the Supreme is a great choice for a new tier. Whether you start with that or a $40 Crown, if you really get into tying, you'll still be wanting to upgrade in a couple of years. Almost any vise will get the job done, but one that's easier to use will generally make tying more fun. 😃
@@SavageFlies DAMN! I need hooks! I have most everything else though 😂 What size would you recommend for fall, Ohio, small rivers?
You missed my favorite budget vise, but hey - you did a great job.
The fly tying world is lucky to have you.
David
S Carolina
Well, thank you David! But which vise are you talking about? If you're talking about the standard AA vise... I considered it but it was close enough to the same price point as the Supreme. :-)
@@SavageFlies None other than the Danica Danvise. With its Darth Vader looks, and injection molded construction, it doesn't appeal to everyone. And its hook holding ability is legendary - so powerful you can damage the jaws, if you are ham-handed and get the tension adjustment wrong
But I got mine for $44 on sale, and am thoroughly impressed with it.
Apparently so are others, as it now has its own knock-offs.
Even at retail it comes in just under the $100 mark.
@@dahutful I love the Darth Vader look of the Danvise. I definitely want to do a review of that one. :-)
@@SavageFlies mind that tension adjust - has two levels, somewhat like that Griffon.
You need to sneak up on it
I started to rie on a Danvise Danica vise for 80€. Its a true rotary with Bobbin hollder and material spring. Now i switched to a better Regal substitute for 110€ and i love the simplicity of the design.
The Maxcatch vise looks very good and is very cheap, clearly my favorite in your selection.
Thank you my friend. I'm considering the Danvise for another review this spring. A lot of people like that and the Renzetti Traveler. Appreciate you watching!
For a few bucks more I bought the cam version of the Griffen you reviewed. The Griffin Odyssey Spider Cam Vise, is my first and only vise so far. I’ve been tying on it for five years and it has tied tons of flies from 22’s down to 1’s. Fresh to salt. It’s a fantastic beginner vise. You were spot on in how you adjusted the tension to have rotary function yet still enough of a hold to tie normal. It’s how mine is setup and I haven’t adjusted it again for five years. Excellent review and awesome channel.
Don’t enter me into the #vise drawing. I’ve already got a cheap vice. Allow someone in need the chance.
Thanks Steven; I really appreciate the feedback! And I'm glad to hear you've gotten five good years out of the Spider Cam. I'm sure you'll get many more out of it!
Thank you my friend! Always very good reviews!!! All the best!!!
Thank you Felipe! Appreciate you watching my friend. :-)
Yor videos are great and informative. I just started watching them Yesterday as I am new. I ordered the Maximumcatch 3 days ago and received it today.It does feel solid
Randy, that's great to hear! I'm glad you found the channel my friend. Let me know in the comments if you ever have any questions. If you ask a question on the day a video is published, there will likely be some folks eager to jump in and help you out. And I try to get to all comments within the first couple of days as well. Cheers. -Matt
I used a Crown my first couple of years of tying and I really liked it. I thought I might see a Danvise on here as they are a pretty good entry-level in-line rotary. I just noticed the Piscator Sticker on the back wall, cool! Cheers
Thanks Darren. Is the Danvise in-line under $100? I thought it was over so I was planning on reviewing it separately, maybe after the Renzetti Traveler. (And yeah, I've got your sticker right next to mine. I'll have to send you one of mine soon!)
Nice to see a light weight travel vise that won't break the bank. looked and missed you at the Lancaster Show this year..#Skunk
I got the Colorado Anglers kit for Christmas 2020. So far, so good. I know not all the tools are high quality, but I have tied lots of different sizes hooks without slipping. It's also pretty tight, without the wobble. I still want to see about a low cost rotory vice to make Some of my ties easier.
Thanks for the note! I might have been too hard on it, or maybe I just got a wobbly one. But you should definitely give a rotary a try. If you can find the Maxcatch I think you'll love it. 👍
Great review, I know this will help someone out who is just getting started. Thanks Matt
Appreciate it Layton! Who knows how good of a tier I would be now if we had TH-cam in the 1980s. Ehhh... probably about the same. :-)
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I had to laugh. While I agree wholeheartedly on your assessment I've had one of the Colorado anglers vise and tied on it for about 10 years and have done just fine in MHO. Maybe I don't know what I don't know having never had anything better. Plan is though to step it up to a peak. I thinknits probably a really good value for the money. Thanks for the channel I really enjoy it.
I will say I had to do some engineering to it right off the bat. The base screw wouldn't tighten enough to keep it from spinning and stripped out. I added a nut to the outside of the socket hickey and its worked fine since
That's actually pretty cool to hear William. But get the Peak, seriously! After tying on that for a month, you'll wonder how you ever tied anything with an older style non-rotary vise. When I moved from a Supreme to the Peak, it opened my eyes to how much more fun tying could be! :-)
I have the Colorado Angler as well. I just bought it because I didn’t want to spend 150-200 on equipment if I didn’t like tying. I’m definitely upgrading though because I want a rotary vise.
Have had a Griffin for 3-4 years. Very happy. Think it was $80 4 years ago.
Yeah, it's funny how some vise prices stay fairly constant over a long time. I think the Peak rotary was $155 for many years. And the basic Supreme has been around $20 forever. Thanks for the note Ken. :-)
thank you for this...I decades ago lost track of the tying kit with vice & base I had as a teenager. I'm going to start tying my own bucktails but don't want to invest in a "better" vice just yet. I won't be tying flies at all, ok at least that's my plan at this microsecond. ;)
I will be using 3/0 to 8/0 jig headed hooks or, easier, jig blanks in the 1/8 to 3oz range, maybe even 4oz. If I add a base for $18 (current cost on Amazon) that makes a $50ish range vice so I might up my budget a small bit and look into that range though from looking at Crown at ~$24 and just use the screw down base clamp on a wood TV tray.
Thanks again for investing your time to help us newbie's (OK 60-mumble can still be kinda newbie...maybe...kindasorta?)
Ha! I've known lots of folks who didn't start tying until later than that. It is a great hobby for retirement after all. Thanks for the note and welcome to the community my friend. :-)
Once again you are making your channel one of everybody's favorite channels! My daughter is starting to tie with me so if I am lucky enough she will get this #vise . Keep up the great videos!
Brian, you are SO lucky! I've got a 13-year-old daughter and if she can't do it on an iPad or phone, she doesn't want anything to do with it. Maybe I should write a fly tying app! Then again, that would probably be pretty boring. Thanks for the kind words my friend. :-)
I got the Griffin for Christmas and after playing with the rear nuts I was able to get it adjusted to where it would spin with the handle but be steady enough to tie a fly. I've probably tied 300 flies with it so far.
Doug- excellent to hear! A couple other folks said the same thing about the Griffin... and that after you get it adjusted to your liking it'll stay that way with minimal fuss. Thanks for the note!
Best review about anything I've seen. Excellent and thank you for this amazing review.
Good job Matt. I hope you get new tiers that win. Good luck .
Appreciate it Butch! I hope we can get some new tiers into our sport too. :-)
Another great video,Matt.I may have a vise fetish.I have ten.One thing I have noticed is when a beginner goes to a shop to buy a vise,the first thing out of the salesperson’s mouth is Rezetti.After 25+ years my Griiffin vise works perfectly.Just a matter of adjusting it to get the rotary feature to work.And I can say that I may have abused it as much as my top dollar vises.Having a hard time justifying buying the HMH TRV,don’t need it,whole lot of money,but I want it in my collection.
Ha! I hear you Michael. I've been eyeing an HMH even though I really don't need one. I'm perfectly happy with my Regal Revolution. But who knows... in a few years I might be like you with a dozen vises on my bench. :-)
My excellent Peak Vise has a Plastic Tension-Screw (under the brass part holding the ball bearings) and thank God it's plastic!! Because if this Tension adjustment screw had been steel, I'd end up with metal cutter, albeit a slow one! Have you ever used a Tube-Cutter?! If you haven't please look at the design of a Tube cutter!! A Steel Tension Screw would go through all "commonly" used steel alloys, with the exception of Carbide steel (for example carbide drill bits for Concrete, Marble etc)!😊You're probably more experienced than I am, I was tying seriously for myself in 1978 (for Sea-Run Cutthroat trout, Steelhead, Bull trout and all 5 species of Pacific Salmon). In 1981, I was selling Steelhead flies to fly shops at $6.00 a dozen. Yes I was indeed desperate for money to pay for my college!! And didn't have any skills other than , tutoring college math at school. So in addition to that, I tied flies, and made custom rods. And I don't mean just fly rods as they're very easy to make. I'm talking about elaborate Saltwater rods with Roller guides, decorative thread-wraps (anything from half & half Diamond wraps, Chevron wraps to the U.S. flag + eagles etc. and of course all done by many woven strands of thin thread)!😩My final point is that I could've continued to tie for ever with my basic Universal Vise Company's basic vise!! It all boils down to the fact that most of us, including myself, want better and fancier toys as time goes on!! My Vise through all those years was a $25.00 Universal Vise Co. vise!! Oh it was a Pain to rotate it!! But it didn't impede my ability to tie professional flies! 😃11
Great comment! I've heard from lots of folks who have tied on the old Universal Vise forever! And I know what you're talking about with a steel cutter. But the upgrade Peak offers for their tension screws are brass- which is a significantly softer metal than steel. And if you think about it, what you're talking about is probably why they make them out of brass!
Really great Video! Thank you. I still have a vise with a clamp for 20€ and it never gives up. Hopefully someday, that I can buy a better one haha
If it works and you can tie flies with it, that's all the matters in the end! Thanks for watching Niwel. :-)
Thanks Matt! I have the Supreme vise and have used it for about 20+ years, great vise, tied from a #2 down to a #20 hook on it. Last month I upgraded to the Peak rotary vise, still finding my setup with it. Thanks for all the videos you make! Keep it up!
Thanks Steve! When you get used to the Peak, I think you'll end up loving it. I went from a Supreme to a Peak, and after a month I was wondering how I ever tied on a non-rotary. :-)
I got a supreme I bought from cabelas over 20 years ago, still going strong. I use a renzetti now but still tie big flies on the supreme
That's cool to hear! I've still got my original Supreme from the 1980s. It doesn't get a lot of use but it'll still hold a hook. :-)
Very nicely done Sir. Definitely enough good information to help a new tyer make an informed decision. This video makes me feel better about my choice of purchasing the Supreme Vice. Plus the fact that you gave these away. What a great gesture. Thank you for a great video.
Upon this review I bought the Crown vise and it is great. Holds a hook very well and easy to use. Thanks for this review Matt
That's awesome Jason! It should definitely do a good job for you. And I just know that thing is going to last forever. :-)
Saw a review where it won't hold a size 14 hook or smaller . do you agree ?
No I wouldn't agree. The smallest I've tied is a 20 with no trouble. Had it about a year and still love it.
@@jasonarrowood3349 Thanks, placing an order for one now.
I kind of fell in love with the master from renzetti but a bit gutted when I found out it wasn’t true rotary for every hook and jaws had only 3 positions still at least I found out before I ordered
I bought a Peak cant wait to go to it
Nice tie Matt. Have used Mr. Hughes “American Fly Tying Manual” (second edition 1989). It’s not a big book but is packed full of “how to” and many patterns to boot. 😊That thread splitting tool is way cool. Definitely going on my Christmas list. Hope your weekend is full of family and fun.
Appreciate it Mark! Thanks for the note my friend. :-)
Matt, very nice intent. Have a great day, Jim
Thanks Jim! I appreciate you watching my friend. Happy holidays to you!
I love the crown vise. I was on the fence about it but glad you did the review. #vise
Thanks Nick; I appreciate the feedback! I really think it feels pretty solid too. The hook holding power was amazing. Cheers. -Matt
Good Evening Sir Matt I loved this video, it takes me back to when I first started tying and wished their was a video to help me than. I love the one with the green and probably save up and get one. I use a spider cam with the clamp first then I purchased a pedestal for it and gotten used to it. Surplus part about that is its lifetime warranty on all parts that's probably why it's a little expensive with that good luck to all the new people I hope you win the vice cuz this is really really fun tying flies and thank you Matt for being a great teacher
Edward, thank YOU my friend! Hopefully having a video out there like this will help some of the new folks who are just getting started. And I think you are right, that the Griffin vises are made in the USA and have a great warranty. Probably why they are just a little more expensive. Have a great week Edward!
Matt thanks to your videos I am going to give fly tying a try. I came across a fly tying vise on eBay called the Mayfly 2A. It is a full true rotary pedestal mounted made in the USA vise for $85. I decided to purchase one figured it had to as good or better than the Chinese imports. Although I don’t have anything to compare it to I am impressed. I would be interested in your thoughts if you got the opportunity to get one and review it for your channel. I believe it is a small business in Arkansas putting these out and I even got a hand written note with mine thanking me for my purchase! A nice touch.
Hi Matt. Enjoyed the review. I was looking at the Griffin Odyssey but then I came across a Mongoose for an excellent deal. After watching your review of it I thought it was the best value for my money so I bought it. Sure glad I chose what I did. Haven’t been able to try it yet (long story) but looking forward to tying on it once I’m home.
Thanks Jd! I think you're going to like the Mongoose. Tons of people have been tying on one for years and they all LOVE it. Cheers. -Matt
Nice job reviewing the vices, I needed that 2 years ago when I needed to replace my junk starter vice. I replaced the second one with a Renzetti Traveler, last summer.
So Lee, how do you like the Traveler? I'm still wanting to review that one in the near future. I've heard a lot of good things about it.
@@SavageFlies I really like it, it does a great job, I fought the jaws of the last vice, no issues with anything moving in the jaws. rotary works well with a lever or knurled knob for rotating. If you want to spin it rapidly, the weight of the jaws will cause a little bouncing. I would buy it again. I got the pedestal base.
@@leemowers9395 Great to hear! If you don’t mind, I may email you when I get one to review. Probably not for a month or two though. 😁
@@SavageFlies any time.
I use the Regal knock off that you showed, since about 10 years now, and it still works great. Before that I I tied on a vise similar to the first one you showed, but even cheaper looking. I hope to upgrade to the Stonfo Elite Vise or something similar though.
I've never tied on a Stonfo but I've heard lots of good things about them!
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Great channel you have, i hope it grows quickly for you. Thanks for all the helpful videos youve made
Appreciate it Dustin! Good luck my friend. :-)
Nice reviews Matt. Hope all is going great. #vise. Thx
Thanks Clyde!
New to the channel, nice production value, look forward to seeing your future videos #vise
Thanks Max! Welcome and I'm glad you're here. Let me know in the comments if you ever have any questions or requests. We've got a great community here, lots of interaction between veterans and newbies alike.
@@SavageFlies Will do! and if my name comes up for the win, draw someone else!! Spread the love around
I used the second #vise you reviewed and it was ok, but lacked the base stability and made it feel flimsy. Great reviews. Thanks again
Thanks for the note Mr. Green! I really appreciate it.
#vise Great review as always. Have a great week.
Thanks Rick! Appreciate it my friend.
Thanks for this information. I am new to tying and looking foe a vice under 100.00$. Still not sure the one I’ll pick
I tell you, the Maxcatch I reviewed in this video is a great tying vise. I just picked up another one for myself. I may do a more detailed review of it and do another giveaway. Or I might just keep it for myself. :-) But check it out as it's still only $50 on Amazon: amzn.to/35xlE6Z
Oh, one other note. Look at any of my recent videos for a comment from Mike Ney. He won this vise in the drawing so ask him on one of his comments how he likes the vise. He's a pretty regular viewer and I'm sure will be happy to tell us what he thinks of it.
Good reviews Matt! You do a great job on your channel!! One of the best out there!! Keep it up bud!! #vise
Thanks Franky! I always appreciate your support. You're entered my friend. Good luck!
I discovered your channel while looking for a 'new' vise. Did a search for used vises too. Also like your tying videos. Subscribed yesterday. Is buying a used vise recommended?
Thanks Brian! Generally speaking vises hold up pretty well so if you can save some money with a used one it's not a bad idea. Particularly if you're considering one of the higher end ones with a reputation for lasting forever. Good luck!
Great view reviews. I agree with your assessments. My Supreme Vise from 1995 is still in great shape. Vises in the beginner level tie lots of different size hooks and hat's a plus for me, as I tie for pan fish and bass.
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Appreciate it Jim. I'm sure there are TONS of tiers out there who started with the Supreme and still use it. Pretty solid overall choice. Cheers. -Matt
I’m getting back into fly tying after 50 years and a spider would be nice as all of my equipment is 60 years old.
Wow Brian, I'll bet you've got some classic pieces of gear! I'm glad you're getting back into the hobby my friend. And I appreciate you watching my channel. Cheers. -Matt
I’m looking at the Spider, but I’m a buy-once-cry-once consumer. I also avoid Chinese products (human rights, slave labor, etc.) so that limits the field. Thanks for posting these reviews. #vice
The Colorado anglers vice I have that same one I put rubber feet on it it seems to stay put but I would only use it when I'm camping that do make a larger version that I paid 49$ for the one you reviewed I purchased for 29$ the larger version comes with 12 tool a C clamp i also added rubber feet to it much nicer to tie on again for camping
Thanks Mike, and great points! Yeah, I think that vise would work much better with a c-clamp. It's not a bad hook-holder, just way too much wobble on that small pedestal.
Nice review, just got into fly tying I’m 63 old , better late than never ! I’m a surf fisherman from the northeast , we fish with a lot teasers , 2.0 -4.0 don’t know if any of these vises can handle that ! I just tired of buying them , and not being good quality , and also to dresses some single hooks for lures instead of the trebles, thanks would love here your input! Tom
Hi Tom. I love your user name! For all these vises, I think the Crown would be the best at holding a hook as big as 2/0. I don't personally have any hooks that big so I didn't try it, but I did play around enough with it and I'd say it will get that big. One more thing-- it's never too late to get into tying! Thanks for stopping by the channel. It's great to have you here. Cheers. -Matt
Hey Matt,
Great review and thank you for an amazing channel.
#vise
You bet Jeremy; appreciate you watching my friend!
Need to look at that griffin again. I like it as much as my renzetti presentation 2000. Just needs a little tweaking. I never lock the rotary. Just tight enough to rotate and not slip otherwise
Yep, I've heard that's how a lot of people use it. And probably a good way to tie. Thanks for the note!
I enjoyed the overview of the five fly tying vices. I like the idea of you providing the viewer with different aspects of fly tying. I tie my flies on one of two machined fly tying vices I made in my machine shop 45 years ago, one out of aluminum and the other out of brass. I'm very interested in the componets of a fy tying vice. #vice
Thank you Roman! I just saw your email and I have to say, those machined vises you made look amazing! Truly works of art. If I remember correctly HMH made one of those styles. Very nice. I've got you entered my friend. Good luck!
Thanks for another thorough review Matt! #vise
Appreciate it Ted. I got you entered my friend!
I'm not new to fly tying but I don't own a vise at this time so I don't have a picture. #vise great video though maybe I will be able to start tying again when I get back to work.
No worries Steven, I've got you entered. You've watched and commented on enough of my videos that if you're not actively tying at the moment, I still know you're a tier. :-)
Good reviews my son says he try the kit one to learn on tried to talk him out of it but he says he like to have it if ya still got it thanks for the reviews!
Thanks Richard. I ended up giving the kit to one of the viewers who was getting his grandson into tying. Make sure you watch when I do a book or tool review. I try to give something back to the community at least every month.
I started off with the Supreme but soon wore the jaws out due to my over tightening it.
So, I went to the Regale .
The main reason that I did is that it cannot over tightened .
I've noticed that quite a few Professionals use the Regale .
Oh yeah Dave, the Regal is the best vise I've ever tied with. Of course I've never tried a high-end Renzetti, but I'm happy enough with my Regal that I may never need to try anything else. :-)
I love the Stonfo Elite Vise...
I haven't reviewed that one yet, but it's on my to-do list. I have heard a lot of good things about it. Thanks for the note!
Thank you for the thorough review of entry level vises Or vises to use to help teach someone to tie side by side #VISE
You bet Richard; thanks for watching my friend!
I'm liking that regal clone and the maxcatch. #vise
Yep, you could do a lot worse then either of those. And having been tying on a Regal for the last two years, I really thought tying on this Regal-clone would be disappointing. But it really wasn't. It just feels really solid and easy to use.
Gotta love history
#vise. I use the spider. It holds well. So far so good.
Thanks Mark! You're entered my friend. :-)
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Hey Matt, its surprising how you have been growing super fast !
I’m following you since you had 958 subscribers and I’m pretty sure that you will have a lot of more subscribers because your content is so original
Keep up the great work :D
Thanks you Uzi; I really appreciate the kind words! Having a channel has been fun so far and I'm looking forward to keeping it up for the next several years at least. Cheers. -Matt
Good review Matt. I really like when you teach us about the equipment too. Passing on the giveaway, so that others can win! But if you get channel stickers in Matt, send me one of those!
Dude!! I've had my stickers in for a few weeks... I just keep forgetting to mail them. I've got several people waiting so I'm going to have to get off my butt this week. As always, thanks for watching Sarge. (And oh yeah, I just saw 800+ earlier today. Nice. You're growing just the right way. Solid, engaged community you're building.)
@@SavageFlies I'd love to have a couple stickers to man
#VISE Matt, I sent the photo of my bench around December 13, 2020. Please let me know if I need to resend it. Many Thanks. I enjoy how you make it look so simple!
I got it Sam, you're good! Thanks for watching and supporting the channel my friend. :-)
#vise i dont really have a bench but this would help to get started with tying ive only tyed about 20 flies and most of them are from you're videos thanks for uploading alot it really helps me learn
I appreciate it my friend. Don't worry about not having a bench yet. I've got you entered. :-)
Thank you for going over entry level vises for those of us new to tying, who might have a sub par #vise
You got it Joe. I got you entered my friend. Good luck!
Thanks Matt! Just found your channel, and haven’t scoured too much, but I’d be curious to get your take on if there are particular tools worth investing a bit more into. Just such a wide range of offerings, at a wide range of price and would appreciate the insight.
@@jhorkey That's a great question Joe, and one that might be worth making a video of. You've given me something to think about! But in short, I would think the two most important tools not to skimp on are scissors and bobbin holder. I probably buy two good pairs of scissors a year, and by good, I'm talking $20-25 Dr. Slick. Keep in mind that someone who ties a couple times a week might be able to make a good pair of scissors last a couple years. But if you're like me and tie pretty much every day, and don't take good care of scissors (I cut anything with them), then they don't last as long as they could. :-)
Next thing I wouldn't want to tie without is a good ceramic tube bobbin holder. You can't go wrong with the Rite bobbins. I've got three or four and they have lasted me several years. There's nothing more frustrating than shredding or breaking your thread because of a microscopic nick in a steel tube bobbin.
As far as a vise goes, I really LIKE tying with a nice Regal, but honestly it doesn't make my flies any better. It just makes it more fun to tie. So investing in a high-end vise isn't as important as the basic tools. Just my two cents.
Thanks again for the idea, and welcome to the channel! I'm glad you're here. -Matt
@@SavageFlies I appreciate you taking the time to give me your feedback. The bobbin and scissors are the most used, and the ones that came in the kit, vise included are all quite terrible. Going to take the advice on the bobbin and scissors. Will wait till next week to address my vise needs.
I went with the Spider for the rotary feature, but I got it on sale for like $60 which makes it a much better value.
You got a great deal Ryan! Enjoy it my friend. :-)
Great video, thanks very much.
Appreciate it Gary; thanks for watching my friend!
Great review Matt! One thing I noticed from the vices you reviewed Matt is that left handed tier's are not being considered in most designs... Please keep doing what you do!!!! #vice
Good point Richard, and I think you're right. One thing I did notice when looking to order a Renzetti Traveler, they do specify if you wan it for a right- or left-handed tier. I haven't seen any other vise manufacturers make that distinction though.
Thanks Matt..... I must say that Peak got it right for us "South Paws" ;-)
I own a Crown it’s great for large stuff
I just started tying, and would like a decent vice...i recently found you with your bench organization vid and love how informative you are. #vise
(I have the Gunnison River Kit)
Thank you my friend! I really appreciate the kind words. Now what's your first name? I don't want to respond here with, "Thank you Mission Discover!" :-)
My name is Nolan and I am 14
Thanks for another super sweet tutorial and review!!! #vise
Appreciate it Dan!
Yes my first vise was a cabelas version of the supreme. It did its job but never held the hooks well, mostly 12 and larger. I eventually went to a griffin mongoose flagship partly because I like gadgets and machined devices. It has hook holding power, however I was surprised to see how much plastic and aluminum had been used in places that would definitely benefit from a better quality material. I understand some of the corners that they cut. But for a rotary vise to have tight and loose areas in its rotation I don’t think they took adequate time for quality control. It is a bit light of a base... I think that most things in the fly fishing world are are a bit expensive for the beginner anglers. Did I mention it holds a hook well.
Yes, the supreme vise is a decent one for starting on. I added a bronze washer from hardware store to put under the cam lever for smoother use. But I don’t think they are all created equal.
I think you hit the nail on the head in that the old vises like the Double A or the Supreme are not all made the same. I'll bet over the years they were made in different factories by different manufacturers. I know the Supreme I bought in the 1980s is just a little different from the one I got last week. Overall, very similar, just small little differences here and there. Also, you mention one thing that I don't like so much about a lot of the Griffins... there seems to be more plastic than I would prefer. I mean, the Mongoose is usually a $200+ vise and at that price point you'd think they could have used some decent aluminum or brass in more areas.
Thanks for the note!
Pretty solid line-up considering the price cap. Very impressive. And a very useful video concept, for that matter. #vise
Thank you my friend! And yes, it's tough to find good quality under the $100 cap. Appreciate you watching. :-)
Congrats my friend, you won the Griffin Odyssey Spider vise. Send me an email (matt@savageflies.com) and I'll get it in the mail to you!
@@SavageFlies awesome news! Sent an email along this morning. Just figured I'd comment here in case it gets routed to a junk mail folder or something. I've had that happen a couple times before. Thanks so much!
#Vise Great reveiw thanks for sharing Matt
You got it James; you're entered my friend!
Great review. I tie on a griffin spider cam vise. I like it. I also just purchased a peak vise. I also like it very much. It would be great to give away these vices to young folks who are just getting started. Thanks #vise
Thanks Richard! I appreciate the note and kind words. Cheers. -Matt
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I've been tying on the crown since November, upgraded from the Supreme after only a month.
Love the crown!
The Supreme, wouldn't hold flies well, and would loosen even more when I tried to spin it.
That's a bummer on your Supreme. I wonder if they were made differently 30 years ago or if I just got lucky and got a good one. Glad you like the Crown. Good luck my friend!
@@SavageFlies yeah, I was a bit dissapointed with the supreme.
But the crown made up for it!
They're also a bit more expensive where I live, compared to your prices.
Mainly because I'm Canadian. Lol
#vise Great offer Matt, Adam my grandson said his choice would be the maxcatch 🤞
Good choice! I got you entered my friend. :-)
Thanks, really helpful for a newbie
I have the Odyssey Spider #vise and have used it for the last 6 years. I love it. #vise
Awesome; thanks for the feedback Andrew! Lots of people actually read the comments to see what people think of something being reviewed so thanks for leaving this one. :-)
Great video Matt. Nothing like a good honest review. #vise
Appreciate it Jason. I got you entered my friend!
Hi from Kansas City 🎣🤠. You're going to laugh but I've got a old her's
Herter's Red-ball vice and I sometimes I get it out and tie-up some flies just for fun!!!. Dave Hughes 🎣🤠
I've got a Herter's vise as well David! Someone donated it to me earlier this year. The thing is a true classic. :-)
I tied about 4 flies on the "crown" vise. And sent it back. The jaws do not hold hooks tightly.
Thanks for the feedback. I've had two to test and they both held hooks very well. Now I haven't tied on them extensively but I did play around with several different sizes of hooks and it worked fine for me.