Thanks Mark! Lots of comments here from folks who do use them and really like it. And I'm sure if I tied on one for any amount of time I would grow to love it too. :-)
Thanks for the thorough review, that's a lot of great info. Your thoughts on the Peak from a couple months were spot on too. I've run a lot of hooks through mine over the last 7-8 years and it's still like new.
Thank you my friend, I appreciate the feedback! And yeah, I haven't heard from anyone who ties with the Peak who doesn't still love it. And I'm finding (from the comments to this review) that folks who have used the Mongoose for a while also love their vise. :-)
Wow a thousand viewers, when i subscribed you was around 300. That was just a month ago. I really enjoy your videos. Very good review of the vice. I remember when i first dabbled in fly tying Grifth was the best. My how things have changed. Thank you Mat.
Wow, thanks Donald! You've been around for a while. I'd like to say thank YOU for being a supporter these several months. It's been a fun journey starting this channel. Cheers. -Matt
6:15 I bought this vise because of it, and it you take 5-10 minutes on Number 7 in the instructions you can get it dialed in without the wobblie and ease of use..
The plastic piece that you mentioned is actually derlin. It is tuff stuff. I have been using my Mongoose Vise for a long time and actually bought a second one for my middle boy has his first vice.
Excellent note; thank you for this! I had no idea what it was made of but I appreciate you letting us know. And good to hear how durable it's been for you.
Sir Matt great review, what I like about this Mongoose is the handle and the pedestal base. On it's brother the spider cam it doesn't come with the base and the handle it came with the clamp and it is alot different using the handle I have. It's been a good vise. Another Pro is that Griffin offer lifetime warranty on all parts on their vices. It would be nice to have one of Griffin Enterprises top-of-the-line vices. Thank you Sir Matt. I loved the review, when I first started tying flies there was no one there to tell me what Vice would be good etc. your video sure Cuts all that out and makes it easier
This is the vise I use 99% of the time. I agree with everything you said Matt. I had a friend make me some steel control knobs and now I have zero issues. It was worth the extra $30 to replace the plastic.
Very nice vice. I have a similar vice and the designs of rotary vises are still being updated and improved. The rotary functions have some little quirks such as the rotary adjustments. I would purchase this vise easily. Thanks again. Jim
Outstanding choice! If you haven't noticed, I'm definitely a Regal guy. Email me if you have any questions. Bob (FlyTier1948 on here) and I had a good email discussion about Regals recently and he just got his Revolution in the mail today.
I have both the Griffin MT Mongoose and the Regal Revolution. Without question the Regal is a better vise IMO. My Mongoose struggles to hold large hooks. This vise is a year old at most.They always slip(which is why I bought a Regal). I can pick my Regal up off the table with a hook in the jaws with the bronze pocket base on it. “The Bulldog bite” is no joke on anything I’ve put in the jaws. If it’s in the budget, go for the Regal!!! The fit and finish and function is exceptional in comparison. The mongoose is a nice vise, packed with value at its price point....and functions as such. But it’s no Regal! Good luck with your purchase.
I think you'll love it Jimmy! I know some great tiers who have been using one of these for years. After you get it adjusted how you like it, the thing is smooth as butter. :-)
I think so Lee. But probably even more than that... check our Darren's comment (Piscator Flies). He ties about 40k flies a year on this vise and speaks highly of it.
On one hand, people should limit their vices or eliminate them. On the other hand, it may not be possible to have too many vises or vise reviews. Thanks for the guidance Matt. The new vise arrived today. Whee!
You know Bob, that's a great way to look at it! How many 9-ft, 5-wt rods do I need? Certainly not the 6-8 that I have. Why not the same thing for vises? :-)
Great vise for the money. I've been using mine for 2 years tying articulated streamers. Very happy with it. Holds hooks very solid. I use the c clamp. Haven't had any issues with hooks slipping. Also tie a lot of nymphs with it. Simple adjustment to adapt to different hook sizes. I also have a Dynaking that i tying on for many years. I did wear out a set of jaws in it. Also had some issues with hooks slipping and not fitting well in the groved jaws. The Montana mongoose is my new primary tying vise.
Great review Matt. I tie on 2 different Montana Mongoose vises. One for production tying and the other for video and presentations. One is quite a bit older, it might be from the first production run, but it still holds up well (grey finish). My new one had the wobble as you demonstrated, but once you tie on it a while and get everything adjusted to where you need it, it is great. I recently had the spring one the cam jaws break, Griffin sent a couple of free replacement springs out for free. I tie a lot of flies, perhaps 40k or more a year and this is the vise that handles it. I also have a Regal Rotary, but I don't like it as much as the MM. Both good vises, but for my tying, the mongoose does it all. Cheers
Darren- thanks for the note! After the contest is over, I may pin this comment so more folks can see it. Over 40k flies a year is a true testament to the durability (and fun factor) of a vise. And great tip on the wobble. As for me, I absolutely love my Regal Revolution. I could certainly get used to a Mongoose, but just haven't tied much with it. Cheers. -Matt
Thanks for this note. I’ll never tie 40k flies on mine, but I’m sure it will take the wear. I felt the comments on plastic parts were misguided. Delrin is used in thousands of car parts because it acts as a durable and lightweight bearing and won’t score metal surfaces. That said, love the channel!!
As a "new guy", the amount of choices in tying is overwhelming! lol from beads to vices...holy cow! lol Seems that PEAK vice was a bit heavier. Is that preferred to have more weight to keep it solid?! haha man, I've got some research to do!
Good vise, so still looking so is the Mongoose or Peak? What wpuld you say is better both around the same money if you add the metal screws to the Peak. Keep Tying It.
@@jaymckenzie448 Jay- hands down, I'd go with the Peak. I still use mine quite regularly. Check out my review of the Peak Rotary and you can see it up close. Let me know if you have any specific questions (matt@savageflies.com). Thanks for the note!
@@SavageFlies Thank you Matt, I really appreciate it! I'm new to tying and wasn't sure if I would like it so I went with one of the kits from Cabelas and now I want to upgrade. I found a Griffin for $150 and the Peak is $165 so I wanted to ask, thanks again!
I’m looking at a great value vice and the mongoose keeps popping up! At $176 it seems like a great price point. After your review I’m wondering if it’s too crowded underneath the vise? Making hackle wraps and work underneath seem like it may be Cumbersome? Any wisdom is welcomed. Thanks for the great review!
Oh yeah, the ads are flowing! That means hopefully soon I'll be making enough on here to be able to afford the stuff I'm giving back to the community. :-)
Thanks for the question. I don't see any issues with this for a left handed tier. (I don't actually have this vise anymore as I gave it away after reviewing it. Otherwise I would give it a try for you. But I don't think you'll have any issues.) As far as the pedestal being a little small, yes it is a bit smaller than the Peak but it didn't have any wobble to it when tying under normal circumstances. I imagine it could seem a little shaky if you were spinning some deer hair on big bass bugs or tying really big saltwater flies. Otherwise it was pretty solid.
Dan- I have not used a DynaKing vise. The first high-dollar vise I review (and hope to give away) will probably be a Regal. But we'll get to a DynaKing someday. Hopefully later this year. :-)
Sorry Robert I can't really say. I only played around with this one for a day or two before I gave it away. And didn't flip it around to see how it would do.
That's what I would guess too Steven. But from reading some of the comments here, it appears this thing will hold up very well for years and many flies. Thanks for the note my friend. Cheers. -Matt
However, I'm probably needlessly worrying about a very minor detail. As you point out, vise is solid, machined to close tolerances and will last for several years.
Nobody cares about the case. I live in Montana, so my first inclination was to buy a Montana made vise. I had used the 1A years ago and liked it for its simplicity. The Mongoose on the other hand, is an over-complicated version of good Renzetti. Too many screws and parts. Why not just buy the Renzetti? It does everything the Mongoose will do, it's a simpler design, and it's better built.
The drawing has been done. Watch Wednesday morning, 12/16 when I announce the winner.
Thats my weapon of choise love it been tying on it for years.
Great to hear Hugh. It's always nice to hear from folks with real experience with it. Cheers. -Matt
I tie on a Montana Mongoose. Great vice! Thanks, Matt!
Thanks Mark! Lots of comments here from folks who do use them and really like it. And I'm sure if I tied on one for any amount of time I would grow to love it too. :-)
Wow that would be a great birthday present for me today! Lol nice vise thanks matt for all you do.
Well happy birthday to you Mike! Thanks for all your support my friend. Cheers. -Matt
Thanks for the thorough review, that's a lot of great info. Your thoughts on the Peak from a couple months were spot on too. I've run a lot of hooks through mine over the last 7-8 years and it's still like new.
Thank you my friend, I appreciate the feedback! And yeah, I haven't heard from anyone who ties with the Peak who doesn't still love it. And I'm finding (from the comments to this review) that folks who have used the Mongoose for a while also love their vise. :-)
Wow a thousand viewers, when i subscribed you was around 300. That was just a month ago. I really enjoy your videos. Very good review of the vice. I remember when i first dabbled in fly tying Grifth was the best. My how things have changed. Thank you Mat.
Wow, thanks Donald! You've been around for a while. I'd like to say thank YOU for being a supporter these several months. It's been a fun journey starting this channel. Cheers. -Matt
6:15 I bought this vise because of it, and it you take 5-10 minutes on Number 7 in the instructions you can get it dialed in without the wobblie and ease of use..
Huge congrats on hitting 1,000 subscribers! Cheers
Thank you! I hope the ads don't distract too many folks. But I guess that's the price you pay for growing on TH-cam. :-)
The plastic piece that you mentioned is actually derlin. It is tuff stuff. I have been using my Mongoose Vise for a long time and actually bought a second one for my middle boy has his first vice.
Excellent note; thank you for this! I had no idea what it was made of but I appreciate you letting us know. And good to hear how durable it's been for you.
Sir Matt great review, what I like about this Mongoose is the handle and the pedestal base. On it's brother the spider cam it doesn't come with the base and the handle it came with the clamp and it is alot different using the handle I have. It's been a good vise. Another Pro is that Griffin offer lifetime warranty on all parts on their vices. It would be nice to have one of Griffin Enterprises top-of-the-line vices.
Thank you Sir Matt. I loved the review, when I first started tying flies there was no one there to tell me what Vice would be good etc. your video sure Cuts all that out and makes it easier
Thanks Edward! I got your email so you're entered my friend. Thanks for the support and have a great day! Cheers. -Matt
This is the vise I use 99% of the time. I agree with everything you said Matt. I had a friend make me some steel control knobs and now I have zero issues. It was worth the extra $30 to replace the plastic.
Excellent feedback Ken. I appreciate you leaving it for others to see too. Now when are you going to make some more tying videos??
@@SavageFlies I have been busy at a new job. I also have been purchasing better equipment to make better videos. I am re-launching later this summer!
@@SavageFlies I no w work for a distributor here in central Montana. We sell flies and fly tying material to fly shops in our region
@@SavageFlies I’ve got a new video out. th-cam.com/video/fT-KgN7k5ls/w-d-xo.html
@@kennyb214 I just watched and I love it! I might have to put a few of those in my box. :-)
Wow just got one and I can’t believe the vice first day I tied for 12 hours straight . A big winner!
Holy cow Albert; that's some dedicated tying! I'm glad you like it my friend. :-)
Good review Matt. Keep the videos coming!! I look forward to everyone of them!! Tight lines!!!
Thank you my friend. Appreciate the support!
Thank you Matt for all your instruction. I try my best to watch all your videos and have learned plenty.
Thank you Edward. I got an email from Judith and got you both entered for the vise giveaway. Thank you for supporting the channel. Cheers. -Matt
I believe its as good as a renzetti traveller but will definitely go with mongoose for the extra stuff it comes with.
Very nice vice. I have a similar vice and the designs of rotary vises are still being updated and improved. The rotary functions have some little quirks such as the rotary adjustments. I would purchase this vise easily. Thanks again. Jim
You bet Jim. Thanks for the note and for supporting the channel! Cheers. -Matt
Sounds like a good vise,
I'm thinking of getting a Regal
Outstanding choice! If you haven't noticed, I'm definitely a Regal guy. Email me if you have any questions. Bob (FlyTier1948 on here) and I had a good email discussion about Regals recently and he just got his Revolution in the mail today.
I have both the Griffin MT Mongoose and the Regal Revolution. Without question the Regal is a better vise IMO. My Mongoose struggles to hold large hooks. This vise is a year old at most.They always slip(which is why I bought a Regal). I can pick my Regal up off the table with a hook in the jaws with the bronze pocket base on it. “The Bulldog bite” is no joke on anything I’ve put in the jaws. If it’s in the budget, go for the Regal!!! The fit and finish and function is exceptional in comparison. The mongoose is a nice vise, packed with value at its price point....and functions as such. But it’s no Regal! Good luck with your purchase.
Nearly bought one after I got rid of the Renzetti. Have heard many tiers say they were pleased with them.
Same here Jim. Take a look at some of these comments. I knew it was a popular vise, but the folks who like it, really like it!
Thanks for the nice level of detail on the assessment of this vice.
Thanks Mike! Appreciate you watching my friend. :-)
I was looking at 5 different vises and just ordered this for my first vise. Hopefully i made a great choice!
I think you'll love it Jimmy! I know some great tiers who have been using one of these for years. After you get it adjusted how you like it, the thing is smooth as butter. :-)
Looks l I'm ke a great vise for the average fly tier.Thanks Matt. Keep up the great work.
I think so Lee. But probably even more than that... check our Darren's comment (Piscator Flies). He ties about 40k flies a year on this vise and speaks highly of it.
On one hand, people should limit their vices or eliminate them. On the other hand, it may not be possible to have too many vises or vise reviews. Thanks for the guidance Matt. The new vise arrived today. Whee!
You know Bob, that's a great way to look at it! How many 9-ft, 5-wt rods do I need? Certainly not the 6-8 that I have. Why not the same thing for vises? :-)
Thanks for what you do for the fly dressers .love it
I appreciate it James. And thank YOU for supporting the channel. Cheers. -Matt
Great vise for the money. I've been using mine for 2 years tying articulated streamers. Very happy with it. Holds hooks very solid. I use the c clamp. Haven't had any issues with hooks slipping. Also tie a lot of nymphs with it. Simple adjustment to adapt to different hook sizes. I also have a Dynaking that i tying on for many years. I did wear out a set of jaws in it. Also had some issues with hooks slipping and not fitting well in the groved jaws. The Montana mongoose is my new primary tying vise.
Thanks Eric; I appreciate the feedback. I think lots of folks agree with you and the more they tie on this vise, the more they like it!
Great review Matt. I tie on 2 different Montana Mongoose vises. One for production tying and the other for video and presentations. One is quite a bit older, it might be from the first production run, but it still holds up well (grey finish). My new one had the wobble as you demonstrated, but once you tie on it a while and get everything adjusted to where you need it, it is great. I recently had the spring one the cam jaws break, Griffin sent a couple of free replacement springs out for free. I tie a lot of flies, perhaps 40k or more a year and this is the vise that handles it. I also have a Regal Rotary, but I don't like it as much as the MM. Both good vises, but for my tying, the mongoose does it all. Cheers
Darren- thanks for the note! After the contest is over, I may pin this comment so more folks can see it. Over 40k flies a year is a true testament to the durability (and fun factor) of a vise. And great tip on the wobble. As for me, I absolutely love my Regal Revolution. I could certainly get used to a Mongoose, but just haven't tied much with it. Cheers. -Matt
Great endorsement. Thanks
Thanks for this note. I’ll never tie 40k flies on mine, but I’m sure it will take the wear. I felt the comments on plastic parts were misguided. Delrin is used in thousands of car parts because it acts as a durable and lightweight bearing and won’t score metal surfaces. That said, love the channel!!
Great review Matt. Thanks!
You got it Jeremy. Appreciate you watching my friend!
As a "new guy", the amount of choices in tying is overwhelming! lol from beads to vices...holy cow! lol
Seems that PEAK vice was a bit heavier. Is that preferred to have more weight to keep it solid?! haha man, I've got some research to do!
That’s really cool, thanks for showing us how all this stuff works. Good luck on the drawing everyone!
I've tied size 30 on mine
Good vise, so still looking so is the Mongoose or Peak? What wpuld you say is better both around the same money if you add the metal screws to the Peak.
Keep Tying It.
Pablo- I just sent you an email. Let me know if you have any questions. Cheers. -Matt
@@SavageFlies Hey, I'm trying to make the same decision between this one and the Peak? Do you have a preference?
@@jaymckenzie448 Jay- hands down, I'd go with the Peak. I still use mine quite regularly. Check out my review of the Peak Rotary and you can see it up close. Let me know if you have any specific questions (matt@savageflies.com). Thanks for the note!
@@jaymckenzie448 Jay- here's a link to the Peak review: th-cam.com/video/ZiUIk98ZEk4/w-d-xo.html
@@SavageFlies Thank you Matt, I really appreciate it! I'm new to tying and wasn't sure if I would like it so I went with one of the kits from Cabelas and now I
want to upgrade. I found a Griffin for $150 and the Peak is $165 so I wanted to ask, thanks again!
I’m looking at a great value vice and the mongoose keeps popping up! At $176 it seems like a great price point. After your review I’m wondering if it’s too crowded underneath the vise? Making hackle wraps and work underneath seem like it may be Cumbersome? Any wisdom is welcomed. Thanks for the great review!
Would really enjoy to win
Thanks my friend, make sure you enter! Cheers. -Matt
Great review, very clear and wow you keep giving away so many things to the community!! Well done! Oh and now I see the ads lol
Oh yeah, the ads are flowing! That means hopefully soon I'll be making enough on here to be able to afford the stuff I'm giving back to the community. :-)
That's will make a nice Christmas present 🎁
Thanks Matt
You bet Al, thanks for the note! And make sure you send an email if you want to enter. :-)
Man that thing is awesome!!! I would love to have a vise like that
Make sure you enter! Cheers. -Matt
Thanks for the review. Any issues for a left hand tier(tyer)? Can it be reconfigured to left hand? Plus the pedastle seems a little small.
Thanks for the question. I don't see any issues with this for a left handed tier. (I don't actually have this vise anymore as I gave it away after reviewing it. Otherwise I would give it a try for you. But I don't think you'll have any issues.) As far as the pedestal being a little small, yes it is a bit smaller than the Peak but it didn't have any wobble to it when tying under normal circumstances. I imagine it could seem a little shaky if you were spinning some deer hair on big bass bugs or tying really big saltwater flies. Otherwise it was pretty solid.
Another great video Matt
Thanks Eddie. Appreciate you watching my friend!
thanks
I would tie on the mongoose my wife is a regal fan all she ties on. Have a great day ever one and happy tying
Thanks Kenneth! I'll be doing the drawing tonight so good luck. :-)
Nice review, Sir!! Have you ever used a DynaKing vise? Are they worth the money??
Dan- I have not used a DynaKing vise. The first high-dollar vise I review (and hope to give away) will probably be a Regal. But we'll get to a DynaKing someday. Hopefully later this year. :-)
@@SavageFlies Sweet!!! Looking forward to the Regal review!!!
have you ever tried a Renzetti I have been tying on one for about two months now and I have had zero issues with mine
Magnus- I have not yet tried a Renzetti. I'm thinking about doing a review of the traveler and giving one of those away. Which model do you use?
@@SavageFlies i use the press 4000 but I have heard they are all great
Presentation*
Yeah, I'm going to have to review either the Traveler or Presidential some day.
*or Presentation. 😁
Very nice vice. Course I’m a bit bias as originally from MT!! 🙂
Thanks Clyde! I'd love to get out to Montana someday. The closest I've come was the Middle Fork of the Salmon River in Idaho. Not too far off. :-)
@@SavageFlies wonderful state to grow up. Great hunting and fishing and many other outdoor activities. Had a tremendous childhood there.
Lucky you my friend! I grew up in the mountains of north Georgia so I got into plenty of outdoor fun too. 👍
How is this vise for left hand tier’s?
Sorry Robert I can't really say. I only played around with this one for a day or two before I gave it away. And didn't flip it around to see how it would do.
@@SavageFlies no worries I think I’m going with the Renzetti presentation 2000 with a streamer base. Thanks for the reply!
Bearing inside is, probably, plastic tubing not a needle or roller bearing
That's what I would guess too Steven. But from reading some of the comments here, it appears this thing will hold up very well for years and many flies. Thanks for the note my friend. Cheers. -Matt
Not knowing exactly spacing of plastic housing and handle, a wave washer could be used instead of silicone grease. Just an ides.
That is a good idea Steven. Something like WD40 might be too caustic for the plastic, but a 3-in-1 oil might work too.
However, I'm probably needlessly worrying about a very minor detail. As you point out, vise is solid, machined to close tolerances and will last for several years.
Hi I'm Matt, I'm from Montana, I have a tackle and fly fishing addiction
Would like to win the vise.
Thanks George! Make sure you send an email to enter. :-)
Nobody cares about the case. I live in Montana, so my first inclination was to buy a Montana made vise. I had used the 1A years ago and liked it for its simplicity. The Mongoose on the other hand, is an over-complicated version of good Renzetti. Too many screws and parts. Why not just buy the Renzetti? It does everything the Mongoose will do, it's a simpler design, and it's better built.