LoTW: "Balance of power doesn't mean anything in Fall of the Samurai." Also LoTW 2 seconds after loading: "Balance of power is in our favor, currently..." This is why I come here.
That’s up there next to “be aggressive! Fight the battle on your own terms! Always go on the offense!” … “okay, so this corner of the map has a nice defensible position, we’ll sit here and make them come to us”
@@alexandremaximov3885 you mean cannons that already made castle defences useless in the 15th century ? The cannons that chnaged already then the face of warfare ? And the base game european armys used cannons to great effect
@@skankhunt446 Interestingly, the fortresses of Japan you can still visit today, such as Himeji Castle, Ôsaka Castle, Nagoya Castle etc. were an adaptation to the introduction of cannons. First build by Oda Nobunaga at Azuchi Castle, this new style of castle was made for use of matchlock guns in the defence and to deflect the incoming cannon balls. Castles of older styles were in fact outmatched by cannons.
We are doing it guys. We are building the lore and fan fiction of the lover of hills that is Legend of Total War getting mostly deprived of hills in this battle. I'm dying laughing right now for no reason.
That's my save file! I've just recently started playing total war after my son recommended me this game, and I must admit, a bit of a newbie. My preference usually leans towards auto-resolving conflicts, as I find the economic aspects more intriguing. Unlike your approach of taking a hill, I opted to enter the city, but I consistently faced challenges with enemy cavalry quickly catching up to my cannons. This often led to my units being encircled and eventually fleeing. Thanks for your advice! IHopefully the battle wasn't completely dull ;-)
Straight bangers for the last few weeks. Ever since you have been covering other Total Wars, I have been reguarly watching again. Love the current content!
Greetings, Legend, my captain. I just start playing Fall of Samurai and i took you advice and started to be aware about hills and hereby joined your hill-cult. My performence goes up by miles......MILES. Keep givin FotS, beatiful content.
yea I'm with you there lol, I'm so used to the boring infantry centre, cavalry on wings, artillery rear formation but now I can make multiple lines of infantry and suddenly...the game's a lot more fresh!
Now all we need is a compilation of Legend's hill battle, with Benny Hill theme for the lol. Gotta love how the man know his way to please us fan, he knows we love the hill so dear much
FotS veteran formation tip: If you have flat map, try the Chevron formation - basically you make tips from your units going into kill zones. Usually even flat maps have some bumps, you want to have the tips of your chevrons hidden behind them - this forces all enemy armies to come into areas where at least 1 unit can have direct attack on them at any point - works great if the bottom tips are also covered by a gatling gun in late game. If you are worried about getting ran down by melee (though in that case there is no reason to avoid just going wide on them), you can fit melee stacks inside of the chevrons to run out and catch charges. Works like a charm
So happy to see more shogun 2 lately man, even today it's still one of my favourite total war games. Also the game that got me back into Total War when they made it free at the start of covid.
Traditional units are actually pretty good, you can definitely achieve 5:1 or better kill ratios against the AI, but they require basically the opposite tactics to what you'd want to use with modern armies (depending on exact circumstances deploying on reverse slopes so the enemy can't shoot your units until they're right on top of you, or attacking from the flanks trying to envelop them, vs deploying on top of hills and trying to at least match the enemy's width in the front). Plus, they don't work in autoresolve so you have to fight manually (but then, you do get heroic victories basically for free). Yari ki is basically the only traditional unit that I would contemplate mixing in.
I usually use the conservative traditional units for defending the muskets unit when an enemy is closing in, other than that they just chill and sit down
I’m 29 years old and I bought fall of the samurai over thanksgiving weekend and I currently have a 200 turn campaign because of your content lol keep it up!
I find the random captured wooden cannons can be quite useful in the same roll you used the cavalry for: triggering enemy artillery deployment early. I just place them all the way forward while the rest of my army sits on the best hill and waits for the enemy to waste shots on the wooden cannons and advance without their own artillery because of the “threat” of the nearby sacrificial wooden cannon. And sometimes they even get a lucky hit and take out an enemy canon or general. I imagine the AI doesn’t actually differentiate between the wooden cannons and Armstrong guns with regards to target priority and just treats them all as an artillery threat. Additionally, I like to leave the wooden cannons from coerced armies or battlefield captures with garrison troops in settlements as they are good at arcing fire over the walls in tiered fortresses where my more advanced cannons seem to have more line of sight issues.
Thanks to these vids I’ve started a Satsuma campaign on very hard (I don’t wanna play legendary yet as I’m new to historical TW) and I’m really enjoying it. FOTS is a lot heavier on the province management and end turns than battles compared to warhammer it seems but I like the slower pace with battles that can actually be won without single entity’s throwing balance out the window
Its so funny how much this guy has grown on youtube since the RTW multiplayer days but his production quality is still shocking 😂😂 keep up the great content, love it !!
Legend of total war: The hill saga continues. Great content! Keep up the good work. Love to see shogun 2 since i bought it and have no clue how to play it.
I'm starting to wonder if these really are disaster battles or Legend is just trying to show us all the hills from Fall of the Samurai for his future hill tier list.
Great stuff If you find yourself with a bad hill, or a lot of dead ground that can’t be targeted, I would highly recommend exploring a reverse-slope defense as the counterpart to your forward-slope layouts
Throughout all of legend's Shogun 2 videos I learned one thing to win every battle which is: Just become a "Hill-ophile". I still remember a play through as satsuma years ago and I forgot to disable drop-in battles, for the first and only time someone actually dropped in. The army I was facing was a three quarter stack of levy infantry supported by Yari levy. I was attacking and Suddenly they retreated to this hill that was decently steep but very wide and had a forest on top. I had a balanced army with mainly Line infantry supported by Yari kachi and two units of Cavalry. I approached the hill convinced I had supperiority with my higher quality units so I lined them up in front of that hill. I suddenly see two maybe three lines of Levy units firing at once shredding my line infantry. I focused all my attention the right flank and used two levy units as fodder for my Yari Kachi to lock them into melee while my line infantry closed in to start shooting again. I eventually beat them but the damage my army took was huge considering it were just levy units. It was then that I realized the power of defense in depth. Thank you random FOTS player who just randomly dropped in on my campagne and thought me that.
The only problem with hills is they can, more often than not, neuter the usefulness of cannons. Howitzers and other plunging-fire artillery become very valuable on maps with topography that can render cannons useless.
Nagaoka has an interesting spot in their starting province, far as I recall. A very, VERY steep hill, in very corner of the map, more like a mountain. The placement means there are only two approaches. And close to the corner they turn into a depressed plateau, like a piece of shallow caldera. And close enough to the sea that you can use bombardment. While it doesn't allow for extended flanks at all, the AI struggles to move army up there and with the troops quickly getting tired climbing the slope they really can't escape the naval bombardment. And on reaching the top they get shot to pieces one unit at a time by several units thanks to the unusual shape.
Please do a Shogun 2 livestream 🙏 Been watching Volund's playlist of his Hattori campaign, I want to see your take on the same campaign, like will you take Kyoto on turn 1 🙏
Do a shogun 2 FOTS challenge campaign. Rules: 1. You can only resolve battles manually if your army has a general. You can move around armies without a general but if they get into a battle you MUST autoresolve. 2. Armies without a general can reinforce during a battle but you cant click "control large" armies. 3. You can use a maximum of 11 units per army (general + 10 units). Every general star allows for 1 additional unit in the army. So lvl6 gen can get extra 6 units in his army. 4. Artillery is limited. You can recruit a maximum of 4 parrot guns, 2 armstrong guns and 2 gatling guns. You can recruit unlimited amount of wooden cannons though.
I'd really like to watch you do a FotS livestream. I'm seriously struggling in the early game of FotS, even on normal difficulty, but I'd really like to get into the game.
So for all you hill fans, I'd like to point out that TW: Warhammer 1 and 2 have some great hills. One of my favorite parts of battles in those. WH3 sadly does away with most of the good hill maps. But yeah, lack of hills in maps for Thrones of Britannia is the main gripe I have with that title personally. Way too flat!
The hill community grows larger video by video
I wonder how many are also part of the "ditch" community
@@koennguyen5234 Hill is life, ditch is cringe.
Hills for the Hill god
And the hills get smaller
lets just start the cult of the hill right here right now
Hills of all shapes and sizes should be loved!
yootoob TWU
I've seen what you've done here😅 and The Emperor is pleased.
We don't mound shame
Hill positivity
I love flat hills
"Legend and well-placed hills" - Name a more iconic duo
You can't
Legend and cheese on well placed hills.
@@tiggerbane4325that is trio
LoTW: "Balance of power doesn't mean anything in Fall of the Samurai."
Also LoTW 2 seconds after loading: "Balance of power is in our favor, currently..."
This is why I come here.
I think he was meaning to say "Balance of power on the campaign map" I've heard him mention that before. Maybe it means more in the battle screen
That’s up there next to “be aggressive! Fight the battle on your own terms! Always go on the offense!” … “okay, so this corner of the map has a nice defensible position, we’ll sit here and make them come to us”
Barely a hill is still a hill. The hills may be small, but the community who appreciate them are thanks to Legend here.
Flat land is justice
Shogun 2 did such an amazing job with artillery. Probably one of my favorite games to use it in.
Only in fall of the samurai, in the base game they are probably one of the worst units
@@brokentwilight3136which makes sense given the time period
@@alexandremaximov3885 you mean cannons that already made castle defences useless in the 15th century ? The cannons that chnaged already then the face of warfare ? And the base game european armys used cannons to great effect
@@brokentwilight3136 Eureopean canon are good lol, you can snip generals and break fortress
@@skankhunt446 Interestingly, the fortresses of Japan you can still visit today, such as Himeji Castle, Ôsaka Castle, Nagoya Castle etc. were an adaptation to the introduction of cannons.
First build by Oda Nobunaga at Azuchi Castle, this new style of castle was made for use of matchlock guns in the defence and to deflect the incoming cannon balls.
Castles of older styles were in fact outmatched by cannons.
I find funny that now that I realise that in the movie of " the last samurai " those gatling guns were positioned in a very nice hill.
We are doing it guys. We are building the lore and fan fiction of the lover of hills that is Legend of Total War getting mostly deprived of hills in this battle. I'm dying laughing right now for no reason.
That's my save file! I've just recently started playing total war after my son recommended me this game, and I must admit, a bit of a newbie. My preference usually leans towards auto-resolving conflicts, as I find the economic aspects more intriguing. Unlike your approach of taking a hill, I opted to enter the city, but I consistently faced challenges with enemy cavalry quickly catching up to my cannons. This often led to my units being encircled and eventually fleeing. Thanks for your advice! IHopefully the battle wasn't completely dull ;-)
from a viewer perspective, seeing a well tought defensive position obliterate the enemy is never dull
A newbie with 24k of income per turn?
Do you want to be my country's economy minister?
Aware... Almost all millennial has a kid now 😭
@@Laucronsince it's his first time he might be using cheats but it's okay and understandable. As long as it's offline game
The Hills no longer have eyes... just bullet-holes.
Whether small or large, all hills deserve to be loved
Gotta admit, i didnt see this hill arc on the radar, but its a good one.
Straight bangers for the last few weeks. Ever since you have been covering other Total Wars, I have been reguarly watching again. Love the current content!
Greetings, Legend, my captain. I just start playing Fall of Samurai and i took you advice and started to be aware about hills and hereby joined your hill-cult. My performence goes up by miles......MILES.
Keep givin FotS, beatiful content.
yea I'm with you there lol, I'm so used to the boring infantry centre, cavalry on wings, artillery rear formation but now I can make multiple lines of infantry and suddenly...the game's a lot more fresh!
All hills are beautiful in their own way.
oh god he's back on the hills again
Now all we need is a compilation of Legend's hill battle, with Benny Hill theme for the lol. Gotta love how the man know his way to please us fan, he knows we love the hill so dear much
Find someone who loves you as much as legend loves a hill
I just begin shogun 2 and i must confess the passion for hills growing in me
So we really are in a FOTS hill romance time loop. Oh well, that's nice
LegendOfHillWar: An elevation of 1mm is still a hill
FotS veteran formation tip: If you have flat map, try the Chevron formation - basically you make tips from your units going into kill zones. Usually even flat maps have some bumps, you want to have the tips of your chevrons hidden behind them - this forces all enemy armies to come into areas where at least 1 unit can have direct attack on them at any point - works great if the bottom tips are also covered by a gatling gun in late game. If you are worried about getting ran down by melee (though in that case there is no reason to avoid just going wide on them), you can fit melee stacks inside of the chevrons to run out and catch charges. Works like a charm
A mound is better than a field!
Edit: I love the smoke in FOS!
I'm loving this Shogun 2 resurgence and new lore that comes along with it.
So happy to see more shogun 2 lately man, even today it's still one of my favourite total war games. Also the game that got me back into Total War when they made it free at the start of covid.
I really love these Fall of the Samurai battles, keep them coming!
Duncan Rodues is all about two thin coats, Legend is all about nice large hills.
Traditional units are actually pretty good, you can definitely achieve 5:1 or better kill ratios against the AI, but they require basically the opposite tactics to what you'd want to use with modern armies (depending on exact circumstances deploying on reverse slopes so the enemy can't shoot your units until they're right on top of you, or attacking from the flanks trying to envelop them, vs deploying on top of hills and trying to at least match the enemy's width in the front). Plus, they don't work in autoresolve so you have to fight manually (but then, you do get heroic victories basically for free). Yari ki is basically the only traditional unit that I would contemplate mixing in.
I usually use the conservative traditional units for defending the muskets unit when an enemy is closing in, other than that they just chill and sit down
I’m 29 years old and I bought fall of the samurai over thanksgiving weekend and I currently have a 200 turn campaign because of your content lol keep it up!
legend of Total Hill here, today we have a disaster hill on Shogun hill total war 2 Fall of the Hill....
"If you aren't fighting and dying on a hill, is it really even total war?" - William T. Sherman
A pyrrhic hill.
I was just thinking AH I WOULD WATCH SOME NICE HILLS and boom new Legend video, nice
It would be cool to see a battle where you are controlling the more traditional units and have to go towards the enemy. Just for some variety;P
You mean the conservative Shogunate units, those guys literally the last samurai 😂 nobody survived a barrage bro
“It’s over Imperial! I have the High Ground!”-The Shogunate when they are 3 inches above the enemy
I find the random captured wooden cannons can be quite useful in the same roll you used the cavalry for: triggering enemy artillery deployment early. I just place them all the way forward while the rest of my army sits on the best hill and waits for the enemy to waste shots on the wooden cannons and advance without their own artillery because of the “threat” of the nearby sacrificial wooden cannon. And sometimes they even get a lucky hit and take out an enemy canon or general. I imagine the AI doesn’t actually differentiate between the wooden cannons and Armstrong guns with regards to target priority and just treats them all as an artillery threat.
Additionally, I like to leave the wooden cannons from coerced armies or battlefield captures with garrison troops in settlements as they are good at arcing fire over the walls in tiered fortresses where my more advanced cannons seem to have more line of sight issues.
Legend of total war here with a new hill video. Today we look at this very little but yet interesting hill. Like and subscribe for more hill content.
Thanks to these vids I’ve started a Satsuma campaign on very hard (I don’t wanna play legendary yet as I’m new to historical TW) and I’m really enjoying it. FOTS is a lot heavier on the province management and end turns than battles compared to warhammer it seems but I like the slower pace with battles that can actually be won without single entity’s throwing balance out the window
Welcome to the peak of historical TW series 😎
Its so funny how much this guy has grown on youtube since the RTW multiplayer days but his production quality is still shocking 😂😂
keep up the great content, love it !!
Ironman- give this man a suit.
Captain America - give this man his shield.
Legend of TotalWar - give this man his hills
Legend of total war: The hill saga continues. Great content! Keep up the good work. Love to see shogun 2 since i bought it and have no clue how to play it.
I bought the FoTS dlc because of you. Thanks, I am having fun watching and playing.
I'm starting to wonder if these really are disaster battles or Legend is just trying to show us all the hills from Fall of the Samurai for his future hill tier list.
Legend of Total Hill.
"Legend of total Hills here, and today we've got a saving your flat ground garbage disaster!"
Legend of Totalhill
Great stuff
If you find yourself with a bad hill, or a lot of dead ground that can’t be targeted, I would highly recommend exploring a reverse-slope defense as the counterpart to your forward-slope layouts
Just bought the game cause I was enjoying these soo much!! Fave series
Throughout all of legend's Shogun 2 videos I learned one thing to win every battle which is: Just become a "Hill-ophile".
I still remember a play through as satsuma years ago and I forgot to disable drop-in battles, for the first and only time someone actually dropped in. The army I was facing was a three quarter stack of levy infantry supported by Yari levy. I was attacking and Suddenly they retreated to this hill that was decently steep but very wide and had a forest on top. I had a balanced army with mainly Line infantry supported by Yari kachi and two units of Cavalry. I approached the hill convinced I had supperiority with my higher quality units so I lined them up in front of that hill. I suddenly see two maybe three lines of Levy units firing at once shredding my line infantry. I focused all my attention the right flank and used two levy units as fodder for my Yari Kachi to lock them into melee while my line infantry closed in to start shooting again. I eventually beat them but the damage my army took was huge considering it were just levy units. It was then that I realized the power of defense in depth. Thank you random FOTS player who just randomly dropped in on my campagne and thought me that.
Starting to want to see legend go: “Legend of total war here and today I have a tier list for what I consider to be the best hills”
The only problem with hills is they can, more often than not, neuter the usefulness of cannons.
Howitzers and other plunging-fire artillery become very valuable on maps with topography that can render cannons useless.
watching all these battles now i want to play. thanks for the videos legend
Been loving Shogun 2 with the fall of the samurai stuff. The artillery is just fucking brutal.
Someone get this man a traditional army save!
Noun
Acrophile (plural acrophiles)
A person who inhabits mountains or alpine regions.
Nagaoka has an interesting spot in their starting province, far as I recall. A very, VERY steep hill, in very corner of the map, more like a mountain. The placement means there are only two approaches. And close to the corner they turn into a depressed plateau, like a piece of shallow caldera. And close enough to the sea that you can use bombardment. While it doesn't allow for extended flanks at all, the AI struggles to move army up there and with the troops quickly getting tired climbing the slope they really can't escape the naval bombardment. And on reaching the top they get shot to pieces one unit at a time by several units thanks to the unusual shape.
*slaps roof of hill* "this bad boy can fit SO MANY TOSA Rifleman on it".
the battle of Berely Hills
If you have no hill, make a hill out of the corpses of your enemies. Sun Tzu.
A real man appreciates all types of hills.
Legend of Total Hill is my favorite youtuber!
None of these have really been disaster battles, but Fall of the Samurai battles are just really fun to watch.
There’s gotta be a fall of the samurai community tournament called king of the hill
Barely worth dying on, not like those other hills…
Loving the Legend of Total Hills content :D
coming at me with a video at 7 am?!? Thank you for the early entertainment to start my day
"That boy ain't right" -Hank Hill, in respect to Barely Hill
This is what they call, making a Mountain out of a Molehill.
He had to turn in the battle because he couldn’t find a good hill and assumed it was impossible to win
These FOTS battles are so fun!
ooh ooh new hill video just dropped
I’ve never watched any Fall of the Samurai DLC gameplay before. That was super cool, made me want to buy the game
Warhammer 2= Legend becomes fascinated by the elven staunch line of spears
Shogun 2 = Hillsexual
another solid Legend of Total Hill battle
This hill is quite gentle. Mr Gentle hill
Shogun 2, where guns are actually guns. I love it!
Please do a Shogun 2 livestream 🙏 Been watching Volund's playlist of his Hattori campaign, I want to see your take on the same campaign, like will you take Kyoto on turn 1 🙏
"You call that a hill? THIS is a hill!"
Can't get enough of this.
Do a shogun 2 FOTS challenge campaign.
Rules:
1. You can only resolve battles manually if your army has a general. You can move around armies without a general but if they get into a battle you MUST autoresolve.
2. Armies without a general can reinforce during a battle but you cant click "control large" armies.
3. You can use a maximum of 11 units per army (general + 10 units). Every general star allows for 1 additional unit in the army. So lvl6 gen can get extra 6 units in his army.
4. Artillery is limited. You can recruit a maximum of 4 parrot guns, 2 armstrong guns and 2 gatling guns. You can recruit unlimited amount of wooden cannons though.
We need to stage an intervention for Legend's crippling hill addiction.
It’s not about the size of the hill that matters, it about how you utilize it.
- Sun Tzu
I Never Played Total War: Shogun 1/2 Before . But i "kinda" like it so i guess i am going to buy it 😀
Loving all this FOTS content. Best TW game, imo.
I'd really like to watch you do a FotS livestream. I'm seriously struggling in the early game of FotS, even on normal difficulty, but I'd really like to get into the game.
Just watched Napoleon in cinema
Time to continue watching gunpowder shenanigans
*loads up total war rome... starts looking for a hill to post my infantry... realises I'm in the wrong game*
I wonder what is the smallest hill he is willing to die on.
The hill arc has been interesting this season
Great channel. Re-downloading fall of the samurai for sure! Edit- hopefully not going to need your help 😂
Think the guy mighta sent it in just to see Legend's reaction to the utter lack of hills lol
Legend of hills here
Thats a hill only a mother could love
Lol @ the "woOow" for the Wooden Cannons. XD
With all the FOTS content lately, I kinda want a Legend livestream on it now, something I never thought I'd say one year ago.
If you want nice and big hills, travel to the area around Milan in Total War Medieval 2.
You get near vertical with those suckers
So for all you hill fans, I'd like to point out that TW: Warhammer 1 and 2 have some great hills. One of my favorite parts of battles in those. WH3 sadly does away with most of the good hill maps. But yeah, lack of hills in maps for Thrones of Britannia is the main gripe I have with that title personally. Way too flat!
A mound will have to do.
so your RNG must be the best thing ever xD 90% of my ground battles have the hills in all the wrong places if any at all xD
I love Shogun 2, both the base game and the Fall of the Samurai.
Loving the fots videos. We even got new memes. Hills!