We managed a few units of this model last week for a company and it came with the M.2 + 2.5 tray - we didn’t ask for it and I think we didn’t pay extra for it.
Talking about power adapters, I think it's easy to find some 120w Hp laptop chargers on ebay for just $2x, those would be good alternatives for this desktop.
Totally. We do these TMM pieces based on what is in the box, but there are bigger options that are sold with these. They are especially important when there is a GPU version.
Love watching these, would be interesting to see a review on the MINIX systems they have some pretty nice looking min computers for a pretty low price their high end ones I think are around $500
@@jusia80 Yeah, could have sworn they used to have some i5 boxes but looking over their site seems like they do not. Looks like I'll be picking up one of these other units for our little office computer.
Pro-tip When ordering from these companies, you should min-max your build, get the best processor that is within your need, then order the smallest SSD, RAM and add the smallest HDD. This ***should*** allow you to upgrade it later. Note that a 2TB 2.5 inch SSD from Samsung can be had fro $170, so adding an HDD might sound silly, but if you need storage, 2.5 inch is a fast cheap way to add storage Edit, i havent tested this on every model, and we havent used HP in several years, but i have not yet had an issue with upgrading these tiny desktops
I have all ways found these HP mins's computers quality and reliable and since Gen 6 the graphics have been good for home and office use and easier to up grade the bios firmware even when using Linux OS .
YT Product reviewers should adopt the Home Shopping Network style/approach lol The way he presents it comes across as HSN, the way he's holding the product. Maybe vana white.
Cant wait for the updated 805 G6 with 5700GE and RTX 3060 or 6600xt replacing the older 1660TI Also wouldnt mind getting an 805 G7 with whatever rembrandt is bringing in 65w, hopefully 20+ RDNA2 compute units
I tried configuring one of these but there was no alternative for an additional network interface, or a NIC option for one of the "flexible ports". So I have no idea how to buy one of these with multiple NIC ports. Maybe it's not available in Sweden.... :( The only flexible port potions were "VGA Port", "DisplayPort port (v2)", "HDMI Port (v2)" and "Type-C USB 3.1 Gen 2"
Greetings, at timestamp 4:26, you mentioned the NVIDIA GeForce 1660Ti 6GB GPU option. I was unable to find the part number for this graphics card online, and where to order this part. Any assistance in this regard would be greatly appreciated.
Wait. This thing has a dedicated GPU option? Where will it go? Is it MXM or PCIe? Also, pity about the weak-sauce speakers. Having you carry the hardware like the John Cusack boombox has become an STH hardware review tradition.
This goes in a similar spot to the Lenovo P320 Tiny we reviewed. On the MXM side, Alex is editing the video for the HP Z2 Mini G4 (the newer ones are more expensive) and that has a Quadro P1000 MXM.
@@ServeTheHomeVideo Huh. Just flipped through the service manual/system board viewer…the dGPU connector on the board is propietary. Not sure if it’s also propietary on the board-side, but very likely is. Not surprised about the z2 Minis being much more expensive…they run Xeon-W compatible chipsets and can take ECC SODIMMs (something the Lenovo pTinys can’t do).
Patrick a request to have the reviewed Tiny PCs specs in a comparison page or even spreadsheet? If this exists I would highly appreciate if someone would point me to it.
@@ServeTheHomeVideo Thanks for this series, it's in part your channel that has helped me get into homelabbing and I am learning a lot of skills I think I will benefit from in my job. I'm a student who wants to go into data science and I ended up getting a tiny-mini-micro machine to run some projects on. I currently have it automating some software I use for web-scraping. For one thing, I feel like it is a lot easier to work with a self-contained computer like this with some expansion options compared to something like a raspberry pi where I would probably need to get some different cases depending on what all I wanted to add and since I'm not much of a maker and don't have a 3d printer I don't think I am good enough at cable management for that not to become something I was constantly have to fuss with. What sold me in the end was that I could add more ram easily, and the fact it could have a better cpu. I had also looked at NUC's but since I am a student I thought they were overpriced on my budget. It was the perfect solution so props to you man.
Appreciate the review, but I always wonder who buys these things and, more especially, why. Wherever there's a desk, there's room for a tower with twice the power for half the price.
Well over a decade ago companies realized that a tower takes up say 2-3+ sq ft. Small units like these can be mounted on a monitor and save desk/ cubicle volume. In turn that means more desks per square foot of office space. That real estate savings was more than the PC was worth. Plus PCs this size got fast enough that for most office desktop scenarios this is all that was needed.
@@ServeTheHomeVideo I get where you're coming from, but wouldn't any desk be wide enough to accommodate 2 legs and a mid-sized tower? Really odd. They also don't look like the really small kind you can mount to a monitor, do they have a VESA mount? (Might be an American thing, we usually don't do cubicles in Europe, so a desk would be like anywhere from 65" to 75" which leaves plenty of space.)
@@Noodles.FreeUkraine At my old office, we had EliteDesk 800 G1 SFF. HP specifically designed monitor stands with Vesa adapters for these to click in. They were used to get us off of ancient Wyse thin-clients.
@@zoomzabba452 Thanks for chiming in. I guess having it as a unit that includes the monitor makes it easier to service and keep around for sure, that makes sense.
11:18 - its unbelievable they did not populate the P80-INTDGPU header on the model. Bye bye future upgrades :-( Or is it like as on the DELL micro's, where you have multiple series that are a more or less equipped models, sharing some variably populated mobos?
We may as we get to newer units. The original goal of TMM was to look at used units that were often much less expensive than getting a barebones and then building them. Over the last year the series has shifted so this may make sense.
have you tried ugrading the CPU to an 11th gen? wondering if its compatible since consumer 10th gen LGA-1200 (400-series chipsets) motherbards are compatible with 11th gen with a BIOS update.
64GB of memory most 8th Gen Intel and newer Ryzen platforms support (2x 32GB). SD card we have not seen on these. You are going to end up using a USB reader.
Please test a HP z2 unit with MXM slot and try sourcing a MXM RTX 2xxx series if it's compatible other that "quadro" and what are the performances in different apps/games? Looks kinda cool solution to me with a decent i7 (probably i9 upgrade) and some clevo or other MXM 2072/2080 even... Tried at local HP importers and representatives, but they're just a bunch of "blablabla" so wan't even worth talking to them... Tnx
I don't remember for sure, but I believe at least older MXM standard had vBIOS and stuff baked into system BIOS, so compatibility *could* be iffy other than what's officially supported.
I'm very curious.. I bought one without wifi card and now I just bought an intel AX201vpro but I don't know where to connect the 2nd antenna cable because there is only one hole in the rear, I can distinguish that the other goes somewhere in the front but where exactly? pls help!
Helloo, i have a question about my HP EliteDesk 800 G6 Mini, i cain't find storage drivers , when i install OS , i've tried so many times without success! would you help me ,if you don't mind bro? Thanking you in advance
I have this model of second-hand, I got it by a present, but the problem is that the BIOS has password, and I tried to delete it, removing the battery and trying with CMOS button but the result is the same, and. I dont know how to unlock bios by another methods
I am looking on ebay for a cheap used desktop-style server for learning purposes but they are so much more expensive than used rack server! :( Also does anyone know if a Desktop form factor server like Dell, are they quieter than a rack mount with similar specs?
Any ideas as to WHY you CAPTIONS are coming up as DUTCH???!?? lol idk if it's a setting or if it automatic detects the language but you are DEFINITELY NOT speaking Dutch (unless I got hit on the head recently 😵🥴 lol Just figured I would LET YOU KNOW about it... oh if you wanna have a laugh, set it to Auto-Translate it back to English... it's good for a laugh or two :D
You need to add a blue door t-shirt to the mix. "I'm So Old I Remember The Blue Door!"
I'm with you, Patrick. Not labeling the USB spec on each port is inexcusable in this day and age.
warcrimes have been committed
We managed a few units of this model last week for a company and it came with the M.2 + 2.5 tray - we didn’t ask for it and I think we didn’t pay extra for it.
Talking about power adapters, I think it's easy to find some 120w Hp laptop chargers on ebay for just $2x, those would be good alternatives for this desktop.
Totally. We do these TMM pieces based on what is in the box, but there are bigger options that are sold with these. They are especially important when there is a GPU version.
I'd love to see how they connect the discrete GPU in there..
Also, please include idle/load power usage at the wall like you used to 🙏
Talked about both in the video. Numbers also in the STH main site srticle
Love watching these, would be interesting to see a review on the MINIX systems they have some pretty nice looking min computers for a pretty low price their high end ones I think are around $500
They are Atom boxes though, you can get a lot better bang for less money getting any refurb i5 box than shelling out for Atoms these days.
@@jusia80 Yeah, could have sworn they used to have some i5 boxes but looking over their site seems like they do not.
Looks like I'll be picking up one of these other units for our little office computer.
Pro-tip
When ordering from these companies, you should min-max your build, get the best processor that is within your need, then order the smallest SSD, RAM and add the smallest HDD. This ***should*** allow you to upgrade it later. Note that a 2TB 2.5 inch SSD from Samsung can be had fro $170, so adding an HDD might sound silly, but if you need storage, 2.5 inch is a fast cheap way to add storage
Edit, i havent tested this on every model, and we havent used HP in several years, but i have not yet had an issue with upgrading these tiny desktops
I have all ways found these HP mins's computers quality and reliable and since Gen 6 the graphics have been good for home and office use and easier to up grade the bios firmware
even when using Linux OS .
Tried this recently with a laptop and learned that (many) modern laptops have the memory modules soldered to the system board. No upgrades for you!
@@jimreem1693 Thankfully many of them still list weather they use SODIMM or LPDDR(or sometimes say *GB [soldered])
YT Product reviewers should adopt the Home Shopping Network style/approach
lol
The way he presents it comes across as HSN, the way he's holding the product.
Maybe vana white.
Hahaha. Patrick's 1980-90s boombox going about in the hood pose, 9:43
The g7 one of these plays all my ps2 GameCube dreamcast and atomiswave games with no problems
from the hp website, there is none in stock. the 805 is available but try to figure out how to get one with the discrete gpu? i cant figure it out.
Cant wait for the updated 805 G6 with 5700GE and RTX 3060 or 6600xt replacing the older 1660TI
Also wouldnt mind getting an 805 G7 with whatever rembrandt is bringing in 65w, hopefully 20+ RDNA2 compute units
Would be interesting to see the 35W AMD 8 cores vs the 65W Intel versions.
Could be an Interesting Home Server Client
Thank you for doing all this research
I tried configuring one of these but there was no alternative for an additional network interface, or a NIC option for one of the "flexible ports". So I have no idea how to buy one of these with multiple NIC ports. Maybe it's not available in Sweden.... :(
The only flexible port potions were "VGA Port", "DisplayPort port (v2)", "HDMI Port (v2)" and "Type-C USB 3.1 Gen 2"
I have been looking for one too, even if used. My guess is that it is something they will do for large orders.
@@ServeTheHomeVideo do you know if other flexport nics are working? The ones from the Z Line as an example.
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👍👍👍👍👍Thanks, really like your passion & enthusiasm!
Thanks for the great reviews. Would this unit handle 4K UHD editing? Thanks.
How did they have a 10900K option for this system lol...
Could you do some rough noise testing and review some of the older/lower specced ones? Something with a Pentium for example.
What are the 10 GbE ethernet options for this device?
Greetings, at timestamp 4:26, you mentioned the NVIDIA GeForce 1660Ti 6GB GPU option. I was unable to find the part number for this graphics card online, and where to order this part. Any assistance in this regard would be greatly appreciated.
Wait. This thing has a dedicated GPU option? Where will it go? Is it MXM or PCIe?
Also, pity about the weak-sauce speakers. Having you carry the hardware like the John Cusack boombox has become an STH hardware review tradition.
This goes in a similar spot to the Lenovo P320 Tiny we reviewed. On the MXM side, Alex is editing the video for the HP Z2 Mini G4 (the newer ones are more expensive) and that has a Quadro P1000 MXM.
You should know that if you use the DGPU, you cannot use the second (inner) NVME drive at all as it takes its space.
@@ServeTheHomeVideo Huh. Just flipped through the service manual/system board viewer…the dGPU connector on the board is propietary. Not sure if it’s also propietary on the board-side, but very likely is.
Not surprised about the z2 Minis being much more expensive…they run Xeon-W compatible chipsets and can take ECC SODIMMs (something the Lenovo pTinys can’t do).
@@10p6 ooooog. That’s not quite bueno. Any idea if HP gives you the full PCIe 3.0x16 on that dGPU, or is x4/x8 only?
@@Waaaaaaaaaaaang I have no idea. DGPU have been supported from at least the G4 models, but with slower AMD GPU.
Patrick a request to have the reviewed Tiny PCs specs in a comparison page or even spreadsheet? If this exists I would highly appreciate if someone would point me to it.
We have a reader who made one in the forums
@@ServeTheHomeVideo Thanks for this series, it's in part your channel that has helped me get into homelabbing and I am learning a lot of skills I think I will benefit from in my job. I'm a student who wants to go into data science and I ended up getting a tiny-mini-micro machine to run some projects on. I currently have it automating some software I use for web-scraping. For one thing, I feel like it is a lot easier to work with a self-contained computer like this with some expansion options compared to something like a raspberry pi where I would probably need to get some different cases depending on what all I wanted to add and since I'm not much of a maker and don't have a 3d printer I don't think I am good enough at cable management for that not to become something I was constantly have to fuss with. What sold me in the end was that I could add more ram easily, and the fact it could have a better cpu. I had also looked at NUC's but since I am a student I thought they were overpriced on my budget. It was the perfect solution so props to you man.
Getting a lot of noise picked up by the camera there in that shot of you under the sound canopy.
Hey can you also review/consider the MECER JUPITER MINI🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾...been using it for the past 3 months as my main pc.... awesome device
I'm still struggling to find the DGPU for my 805 G6 mini, so frustrating that HP don't have a product number for this as I would love to purchase one.
Appreciate the review, but I always wonder who buys these things and, more especially, why. Wherever there's a desk, there's room for a tower with twice the power for half the price.
Well over a decade ago companies realized that a tower takes up say 2-3+ sq ft. Small units like these can be mounted on a monitor and save desk/ cubicle volume. In turn that means more desks per square foot of office space. That real estate savings was more than the PC was worth. Plus PCs this size got fast enough that for most office desktop scenarios this is all that was needed.
@@ServeTheHomeVideo I get where you're coming from, but wouldn't any desk be wide enough to accommodate 2 legs and a mid-sized tower? Really odd. They also don't look like the really small kind you can mount to a monitor, do they have a VESA mount? (Might be an American thing, we usually don't do cubicles in Europe, so a desk would be like anywhere from 65" to 75" which leaves plenty of space.)
@@Noodles.FreeUkraine At my old office, we had EliteDesk 800 G1 SFF. HP specifically designed monitor stands with Vesa adapters for these to click in. They were used to get us off of ancient Wyse thin-clients.
@@zoomzabba452 Thanks for chiming in. I guess having it as a unit that includes the monitor makes it easier to service and keep around for sure, that makes sense.
I love it , hopefully I can win 1 of that if you raffle it
Does the DGPU work with 65 watt systems with this generation? I believe earlier gens DGPU only works with 35 watt systems?
11:18 - its unbelievable they did not populate the P80-INTDGPU header on the model. Bye bye future upgrades :-( Or is it like as on the DELL micro's, where you have multiple series that are a more or less equipped models, sharing some variably populated mobos?
Is Lenovo ThinkCentre M75q-2 AMD Ryzen 7 Pro 4750GE 16 GB RAM 512 GB SSD best or there is anyone higher than M75q two times higher 3x or 5x?
im not sure how well barebones fit into the project tinyminimicro but is there any chance you'd look into asrock's jupiter series?
We may as we get to newer units. The original goal of TMM was to look at used units that were often much less expensive than getting a barebones and then building them. Over the last year the series has shifted so this may make sense.
@ $952 the price is not the form factor
have you tried ugrading the CPU to an 11th gen? wondering if its compatible since consumer 10th gen LGA-1200 (400-series chipsets) motherbards are compatible with 11th gen with a BIOS update.
How's Austin treating you so far?
Not really interested in a speed, but SD card slot and 64Gb memory are must. Anything is coming in mind?
64GB of memory most 8th Gen Intel and newer Ryzen platforms support (2x 32GB). SD card we have not seen on these. You are going to end up using a USB reader.
@@ServeTheHomeVideo Yes, it is why I stay with the older skull case, but look time to time if something changed.
Please test a HP z2 unit with MXM slot and try sourcing a MXM RTX 2xxx series if it's compatible other that "quadro" and what are the performances in different apps/games? Looks kinda cool solution to me with a decent i7 (probably i9 upgrade) and some clevo or other MXM 2072/2080 even... Tried at local HP importers and representatives, but they're just a bunch of "blablabla" so wan't even worth talking to them...
Tnx
Alex is editing the Z2 Mini G4 video but it has the Quadro P1000 MXM
I don't remember for sure, but I believe at least older MXM standard had vBIOS and stuff baked into system BIOS, so compatibility *could* be iffy other than what's officially supported.
@@ServeTheHomeVideo Niceeee. P.S.: You getting rid of when done? I'm interested ,)
this pc has 2 fans? thinkcentre m75q gen 2 only has 1 fan with alluminum heatsink
Does this i5 unit can be upgraded with replace it with i7 10700 by ourself?
Love it ty
Thanks. HP Please label your USB ports!
I'm very curious.. I bought one without wifi card and now I just bought an intel AX201vpro but I don't know where to connect the 2nd antenna cable because there is only one hole in the rear, I can distinguish that the other goes somewhere in the front but where exactly? pls help!
Hi! Can you install a low profile GPU on this machine?
HP has specific GPUs sized for these machines.
Waving hi from SF! Bout a month I'll be waving hi from new home in nyc. Great video as always ! New sub here. Like in the las few days .
Helloo, i have a question about my HP EliteDesk 800 G6 Mini, i cain't find storage drivers , when i install OS , i've tried so many times without success! would you help me ,if you don't mind bro? Thanking you in advance
This will use standard Intel storage and chipset drivers
@@ServeTheHomeVideo thank you very much
I have this model of second-hand, I got it by a present, but the problem is that the BIOS has password, and I tried to delete it, removing the battery and trying with CMOS button but the result is the same, and. I dont know how to unlock bios by another methods
Does this unit which come with i9 10900 90w TDP, can be swap with i9-10900k ?
Does anyone know if these cases are interchangeable between the generations of the HP Elite desk G* minis.
how do I turn off db prochot permanently because I have tried it via 3rd party software and via win+r but after booting it returns to 0.79ghz
Typo in the video description: Link to the 35W video says “65W”.
Fixed thanks!
Could you install the i9 19900T to this pc?
I am looking on ebay for a cheap used desktop-style server for learning purposes but they are so much more expensive than used rack server! :( Also does anyone know if a Desktop form factor server like Dell, are they quieter than a rack mount with similar specs?
Pro tip:
Do not wait all the way to after 10 minutes in the video to mention what kind of processor/APU is inside of the system.
The challenge is that these are all configurable processors so often there are 10-20 options.
@@ServeTheHomeVideo Maybe you could state the entire hardware specification of the unit you are reviewing somewhere in the beginning of the video 😉.
It doesnt fit in here .......... because we have more room ........... 🤔😅
To bad this did not have a thunder port for external gpu.
There's a 1660Ti version though.
Any ideas as to WHY you CAPTIONS are coming up as DUTCH???!?? lol idk if it's a setting or if it automatic detects the language but you are DEFINITELY NOT speaking Dutch (unless I got hit on the head recently 😵🥴 lol
Just figured I would LET YOU KNOW about it... oh if you wanna have a laugh, set it to Auto-Translate it back to English... it's good for a laugh or two :D
It is set to English. No idea.
Hallo Franka
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