Kripp, I started watching you durring the first month of D3. I could give a flying fk about wow, but I still find myself watching your vids because I respect your insights. The way you breakdown games is impressive. Props.
The warrior damage nerfs went live a while ago, however the tooltips are not updated. So far in 5.1 notes there is nothing relating to warrior changes.
Avatar - now breaks all roots and snares, but no longer makes you immune to movement impairing effects. Duration increased to 24 sec, up from 20. No longer generates extra rage.
See kripp this is why i watch u you tell us the changes and how bad they are for you're class and you never complain or get mad at you're always in a positive mood man you're awesome kripp :D Keep the good work up god bless man
DOES THIS MEAN HUNTERS NEED MORE KNOWLEDGE OF THE ENEMY COOLDOWNS, SKILL IN HIGH RATING, KNOWLEDGE OF WHEN TO POPPING ONES OWN COOLDOWNS SUCH AS THE PET TRINKET IN PVP?
"Bestial Wrath, Lynx Rush, Readyness, Lynx Rush and the healer will literally die from that I wouldn't even need to use silence shot and you know aahh I thought it was Ok you know it's fine it's all good you know I like that" -kripp
Kripp, I have the issue that I always have to turn up my volume when watching your videos, could you increase the volume on your mic or something? That would be great, also, I wait for your videos everyday.
The nerf isn't the problem, the way they nerfed us is the problem. If you rely on the pet, more than ever, you just can't let our cooldowns which are pet oriented be completely useless. Everytime we use cooldowns at this point, they are one button press away of negating our whole burst, most classes will have to pop a major defensive cooldown to survive multiple burst cooldowns, a short minor cooldown will be enough to keep a hunter off you now. Not to mention we don't have any other options.
At the start of Cata they were useless, pretty much. People even did videos joking on how bad they were. But Hunters, as far as my mates at 2,6k have said, and by my own experience at 2,3k, they're used to be one of the hardest, if not the hardest class to play decently.
Had to point out, not very many times do I comment just to say that I agree... But yeah, well put, and def changed my mind about the ability changes. Voting it up so Kripp can assess.
This is pretty much how blizz works. There are certain classes which are accepted as the top dps classes. If another one proves to be better it will be nerfed to pieces.
we've always been at the botttom, but we got used to and improved due to skill and therefor we who are among the best was bringing the hunter class up.
I remember the days in TBC with dreamstate resto druids and how you just could not kill them with anything. And then there was that short time at the beginning of Wrath where Rets were destroying everything. And there's the constant dominance of frost mages since time immemorial. I've learned my lesson over the years that Blizzard cannot into balance, so I just enjoy imba specs while they last...
Hunters aren't supposed to be a primary damage class anyway in arenas, they're meant to be more of a support damage class as it is. Trip BM hunters should NOT be working nearly as well as it is right now, so something had to be done, and if you can't admit that then there is a problem.
one defensive that would help for ~300k instant damage is a shield, (I'm rsham) and i can't pop the shield in a shockwave, which did 60k extra dmg. even if i had gotten the shield up it wouldn't have been enough for the ~5 sec followup silences and another stun.
im sorry but im gonna have to disagree on the OP thing, i use 5 offensive spells, 3 of which have a cast time, do you know what its like having to stop and cast when you have a warrior who ignores fear on you? hunters have cast time on cobra shot and steady shot but those arent even your main offensive abilities, and NOW you can cast moving without a damage penalty... lets say its even and leave it at that
fun? of course! Balanced? not really. I just dont feel they should nerf the damage so much, I think they should buff others. I dont like slow paced pvp where you die after massaging your opponent for 15 minutes
Stampede was bugged in arena, even Blizzard know that the scaled dmg of it was way way to high. It's not a nerf it's a balanced. In PvP they should be equal else it's not fair play.
far far far from useless, damage output and stampede burst is still amazing and you still have 2.5x more trinkets than anyone else, plus the nature of the pet doing damage even while you're CCd is actually a benefit as much as otherwise.
My friend just lvl up a mage to 90 and he says have 300k hp full greens and its a mage so he use cloth now you have an idea what tanks hp can have and healers hp
WoW never had and never will have a level playing field! One of my biggest annoyances when i was playing the game. After playing solely GW2 i started playing D3 again with 1.0.5 patch and been having a lot of fun, so Kripp get going m8 :)
I don't agree with been able to cc a pet with bestial wrath up. That's like the change they did to stop druids shapeshifting out of roots and novas. They reversed that eventually.
Just started playing hunter again... almost lvl 90. I wish I could have seen how op this spec was. Last time I played a hunter and their pets were immune to all cc during bestial wrath and I still pvp'd as survival and did 2300-2400 2v2 rating bc-wotlk with a resto druid. I was excited for BM to be a good spec for once... sigh.
Why do you think we see SO MANY more warriors in MoP compared to end cata? because it actually is fun. Balance is just a whole other question, don't mix those 2.
The bestial wrath thing was too much i agree, but as a healer, id like hunters having a bit more dots. Its not fun when someone (warr or hunter) kills you because they pushed ALL the buttons and got a few crits. I want to die while failing to avoid cc or interrupts or just outplayed, kkthxbai.
No need to get mad, wasn't the first time hunters have been meganerfed... If you're truly love playing your hunter you'll still find a way to own ass just as I have been doing since vanilla.
Not true at all for tbc. There were practically zero BM hunters in high level arenas during all of TBC. Hunters were all Marks for arenas. Hunters were actually one of the least represented classes in high rated arena teams for most of tbc.
Isn't liking the ability to be able to just kill people in 3 or 4 seconds indicative of not actually enjoying having to play with skill? Rather, a statement like that seems to indicate one who just wants to be on top and is willing to throw everyone else under the bus to do so...
welcome to the warrior`s world kripp, nerfed to the ground on every single patch since vanilla u.u but dont worry, we`ll see the warrior nerf patch notes in no time... that train is never late
although I don't play WoW anymore, I still enjoy your content. I know in WoW you need full commitment to your character, but try make some D3 content about the new patch. cheers
What is that to complain about? Almost every other class can be CCd while using major cooldowns, why shouldn't we? It only raises the skill-cap of the class and will get rid of all the fotm re-rollers. Great change imo.
It shouldn't be too too bad for 3's. It's still shitty that you aren't going to be able to walk in and slay people in 10 seconds. It'll be more about setting up the kill with LoS and cc's. Lynx rush getting changed is stupid. They could just drop the damage from 200 percent to 125 or 100 percent.
PvP balance is mostly balanced around 3v3 arena. If a hunter can solo kill a healer in 3-5 sec, imagine what will it be with another dps... any class should have a chance to 1v1 a healer, but not a garanteed kill in 10 sec even.
It's really not that big of a deal when changes are made. All you have to is realize that the way you once played has to change. Now instead of instigating with bestial wrath you will now use it situationally. Partner stuns opponent then bw, or pet snared pop bw. You will easily be able to find ways to beat other players, you will simply have to play within the limits you are given.
Aspect of the Fox change - Good Lynx Rush change - Fine Bestial Wrath change - Very bad Glyph of Mend Pet might help a bit. I think they will alsow nerf Stampede and then hunter class are crap again :(
its fun to faceroll, because you know later in the expansion that healers become op again and require some serious coordination to kill anybody in 2's or 3's
I cant disagree with the always going over the top with nerfs. Gotta start somewhere tho i guess? Because they were pretty rediculous and warriors still are. i hope blizz get onto them soon as well, and before anyone says anything, i have a warrior myself, and KNOW they needa be nerfed pretty hard as well. Carry on! :P
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I don't even play WoW, regardless just listening to this beast of a man talk is an essential part of my day. Kripp = king.
Kripp, I started watching you durring the first month of D3. I could give a flying fk about wow, but I still find myself watching your vids because I respect your insights. The way you breakdown games is impressive. Props.
Am loving you being back in wow and getting all my hunter info for me, even if its bad news
The warrior damage nerfs went live a while ago, however the tooltips are not updated. So far in 5.1 notes there is nothing relating to warrior changes.
Avatar - now breaks all roots and snares, but no longer makes you immune to movement impairing effects. Duration increased to 24 sec, up from 20. No longer generates extra rage.
If you pop bestial wrath and go for the healer and they cc it you can just masters call and you can do that 2 times with readiness.
See kripp this is why i watch u you tell us the changes and how bad they are for you're class and you never complain or get mad at you're always in a positive mood man you're awesome kripp :D Keep the good work up god bless man
Just to put it in perspective, how much is 55k Chimera Shot compared to a player's total health pool?
Does stampede still give u a lot of heals with spirit bond
DOES THIS MEAN HUNTERS NEED MORE KNOWLEDGE OF THE ENEMY COOLDOWNS, SKILL IN HIGH RATING, KNOWLEDGE OF WHEN TO POPPING ONES OWN COOLDOWNS SUCH AS THE PET TRINKET IN PVP?
Is the sprint thingy a nerf?? 0.2 to 0.08 proc?
Hes played it quite a lot, have you checked his uploaded videos?
Kripp is the real life version of The Pwnerer. "CRITICAL HIT!" - I loled.
Where did you read it? I can't find it on MMO champion.
"Bestial Wrath, Lynx Rush, Readyness, Lynx Rush and the healer will literally die from that I wouldn't even need to use silence shot and you know aahh I thought it was Ok you know it's fine it's all good you know I like that" -kripp
I wasn't mad that I got an ad until the seahorse got eaten.
Kripp, I have the issue that I always have to turn up my volume when watching your videos, could you increase the volume on your mic or something? That would be great, also, I wait for your videos everyday.
How the hell are they nerfed Krip? Fox Aspect got removed, and Cobra and Steady Shot can be cast while moving. Hunters got a buff if anything.
Which season? I just wanna know, out of curiousity. :P
The nerf isn't the problem, the way they nerfed us is the problem.
If you rely on the pet, more than ever, you just can't let our cooldowns which are pet oriented be completely useless. Everytime we use cooldowns at this point, they are one button press away of negating our whole burst, most classes will have to pop a major defensive cooldown to survive multiple burst cooldowns, a short minor cooldown will be enough to keep a hunter off you now.
Not to mention we don't have any other options.
weird, my hunter still has aspect of the fox and has to have it activated to use cobra shot on the move.
The new Rabid - Increases your pet's attack power by 25% for 20 sec, down from 70% for 20 sec. Also a well deserved nerf.
At the start of Cata they were useless, pretty much. People even did videos joking on how bad they were. But Hunters, as far as my mates at 2,6k have said, and by my own experience at 2,3k, they're used to be one of the hardest, if not the hardest class to play decently.
blind received a HUGEEEEEEEEEEE buff. if you cant kill someone with a blind every minute, your bad.
My 2.7k 2's/3's partner (last season) said marks was fine last week. Marks will be the spec to go over survival now and I'm sure hunters will be fine.
Had to point out, not very many times do I comment just to say that I agree... But yeah, well put, and def changed my mind about the ability changes. Voting it up so Kripp can assess.
This is pretty much how blizz works. There are certain classes which are accepted as the top dps classes. If another one proves to be better it will be nerfed to pieces.
that may be true that they watch his vids but actually hunters were pretty OP in every server so its not only a kripp thing
Can you do a Video about: Is the Hunter still very good in PvE?
we've always been at the botttom, but we got used to and improved due to skill and therefor we who are among the best was bringing the hunter class up.
I remember the days in TBC with dreamstate resto druids and how you just could not kill them with anything. And then there was that short time at the beginning of Wrath where Rets were destroying everything. And there's the constant dominance of frost mages since time immemorial.
I've learned my lesson over the years that Blizzard cannot into balance, so I just enjoy imba specs while they last...
Hunters aren't supposed to be a primary damage class anyway in arenas, they're meant to be more of a support damage class as it is. Trip BM hunters should NOT be working nearly as well as it is right now, so something had to be done, and if you can't admit that then there is a problem.
one defensive that would help for ~300k instant damage is a shield, (I'm rsham) and i can't pop the shield in a shockwave, which did 60k extra dmg. even if i had gotten the shield up it wouldn't have been enough for the ~5 sec followup silences and another stun.
i dont dont even play world of warcraft, but im still watching your videos! what is this witchcraft?
Is it too nerfed? Will you get banned?
What about the survivability and support of shadow priests? The THIRTY SEC CD on VANISH BLINK druids has? Warrior BURST and SURVIVABILITY?
gg blizz.
Blink strike still does very good damage, and you are still able to 1shot everything with stampede :)
Perhaos they should introduce a glyph/talent/innate whereby dispelling the hunter dispells the pet simultaneously.
im sorry but im gonna have to disagree on the OP thing, i use 5 offensive spells, 3 of which have a cast time, do you know what its like having to stop and cast when you have a warrior who ignores fear on you? hunters have cast time on cobra shot and steady shot but those arent even your main offensive abilities, and NOW you can cast moving without a damage penalty... lets say its even and leave it at that
fun? of course! Balanced? not really. I just dont feel they should nerf the damage so much, I think they should buff others. I dont like slow paced pvp where you die after massaging your opponent for 15 minutes
a player usually have around 340k hp.
the chimera shot has 9 sec cooldown.
you tell me.
Kripp explained the hunter nerf... People misunderstood (Surprise) ... People cried... Not realizing that every comment helps out in the end.
That's why you disarm, cc, pop defensives et cetera. An arms warrior does bad damage without cooldowns.
Stampede was bugged in arena, even Blizzard know that the scaled dmg of it was way way to high. It's not a nerf it's a balanced. In PvP they should be equal else it's not fair play.
Oh that's right, CC shouldn't negate hunter burst, but it should negate every other class.
I like how they brought back the ability to get global'd. Reminds me of OG WoW.
as for the BW nerf just use bullheaded you gotta switch to cunning at least for those that did not make their hunter pets cunning
Alright! New Challenge for Krip ! **Monster Power 10 Inferno Hardcore Diablo kill** Get on it !
I'm pretty sure that stampede was what was making BM OP.
Good stuff, glad to see the huntard getting what he/she deserves.
far far far from useless, damage output and stampede burst is still amazing and you still have 2.5x more trinkets than anyone else, plus the nature of the pet doing damage even while you're CCd is actually a benefit as much as otherwise.
They needed a nerf, but this is just over the top! :O
if you pop masters call as soon as a pet gets cc'ed then it will still be basically the same thing
My friend just lvl up a mage to 90 and he says have 300k hp full greens and its a mage so he use cloth
now you have an idea what tanks hp can have and healers hp
As a healer, I didn't ask to nerf a class into the ground, just asked to nerf the burst dmg and overall healing >_>
shared DR for hunter and his pet?
WoW never had and never will have a level playing field! One of my biggest annoyances when i was playing the game.
After playing solely GW2 i started playing D3 again with 1.0.5 patch and been having a lot of fun, so Kripp get going m8 :)
I don't agree with been able to cc a pet with bestial wrath up. That's like the change they did to stop druids shapeshifting out of roots and novas. They reversed that eventually.
hey kripparrian are you going to watch the walking dead?
Blizz (Every hotfix) : "Lol hunters are actually a solid class for once? Better nerf them into the ground and buff mages again."
what about blood dks?
Just started playing hunter again... almost lvl 90. I wish I could have seen how op this spec was. Last time I played a hunter and their pets were immune to all cc during bestial wrath and I still pvp'd as survival and did 2300-2400 2v2 rating bc-wotlk with a resto druid. I was excited for BM to be a good spec for once... sigh.
How will this effect pve?
Why do you think we see SO MANY more warriors in MoP compared to end cata? because it actually is fun.
Balance is just a whole other question, don't mix those 2.
I feel sad for the people who think hunters are gonna be average after these changes and say Kripp was just crying
Blink Strike is a pretty great alternative on a macro, trust me it's pretty ridiculous. The Bestial Wrath nerf sucks though.
its wat sometimes?
The bestial wrath thing was too much i agree, but as a healer, id like hunters having a bit more dots. Its not fun when someone (warr or hunter) kills you because they pushed ALL the buttons and got a few crits. I want to die while failing to avoid cc or interrupts or just outplayed, kkthxbai.
There's no warrior nerfs, because if warriors get nerfed, and hunters are already nerfed, it's going to be World of Wizardcraft once again.
No need to get mad, wasn't the first time hunters have been meganerfed... If you're truly love playing your hunter you'll still find a way to own ass just as I have been doing since vanilla.
Love Kripp crying when his overpowered class gets nerfed.
DID HE OPEN HIS EYES ONCE DURING THE VIDEO?
Not true at all for tbc. There were practically zero BM hunters in high level arenas during all of TBC. Hunters were all Marks for arenas. Hunters were actually one of the least represented classes in high rated arena teams for most of tbc.
yay kripps streaming d3 tonight :D
Isn't liking the ability to be able to just kill people in 3 or 4 seconds indicative of not actually enjoying having to play with skill? Rather, a statement like that seems to indicate one who just wants to be on top and is willing to throw everyone else under the bus to do so...
On the bright side. Mage nerfs came in.
welcome to the warrior`s world kripp, nerfed to the ground on every single patch since vanilla u.u
but dont worry, we`ll see the warrior nerf patch notes in no time... that train is never late
Kripp showed everyone how to break them... If Kripp had rolled a mage they would of nerfed them instead.
Marksman hunter = every rogue since 5.0, welcome to cancer ;-)
Hunters have always been a strong class to play. Ghostcrawler is the reason mages will dominate.
although I don't play WoW anymore, I still enjoy your content. I know in WoW you need full commitment to your character, but try make some D3 content about the new patch. cheers
What is that to complain about? Almost every other class can be CCd while using major cooldowns, why shouldn't we? It only raises the skill-cap of the class and will get rid of all the fotm re-rollers. Great change imo.
It shouldn't be too too bad for 3's. It's still shitty that you aren't going to be able to walk in and slay people in 10 seconds. It'll be more about setting up the kill with LoS and cc's. Lynx rush getting changed is stupid. They could just drop the damage from 200 percent to 125 or 100 percent.
PvP balance is mostly balanced around 3v3 arena. If a hunter can solo kill a healer in 3-5 sec, imagine what will it be with another dps... any class should have a chance to 1v1 a healer, but not a garanteed kill in 10 sec even.
Nice thumbnail there kripp
So you are saying that the beta was unbalanced...? DO you even know what beta is?
jay wilson is in charge of the hunter nerf.
It's really not that big of a deal when changes are made. All you have to is realize that the way you once played has to change. Now instead of instigating with bestial wrath you will now use it situationally. Partner stuns opponent then bw, or pet snared pop bw. You will easily be able to find ways to beat other players, you will simply have to play within the limits you are given.
what about survival, affliction, healer and just dmg everything
AOF is still in the game, and I believe that Lynx Rush still is a dam. not bleed
Aspect of the Fox change - Good
Lynx Rush change - Fine
Bestial Wrath change - Very bad
Glyph of Mend Pet might help a bit.
I think they will alsow nerf Stampede and then hunter class are crap again :(
its fun to faceroll, because you know later in the expansion that healers become op again and require some serious coordination to kill anybody in 2's or 3's
Kripp is very charismatic.
The main problem with hunters in BM was that they could kill in 3 seconds while they are CC'd
at current a geared person WITH buffs is ~340-350k health... in arena anyway
...really? you consider this a mega nerf?
Hunters aren't allowed to be powerful for longer than one patch, didn't you know?
havent seen the video, but got a good laugh at the title :D
The problem was never lynx rush... the problem is stampede ignoring target resilience...
I cant disagree with the always going over the top with nerfs. Gotta start somewhere tho i guess? Because they were pretty rediculous and warriors still are. i hope blizz get onto them soon as well, and before anyone says anything, i have a warrior myself, and KNOW they needa be nerfed pretty hard as well. Carry on! :P