The New Silent Wings 4 Pro - Better than Noctua or Phanteks?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ส.ค. 2022
- Let's take a look at the new Be Quiet! Silent Wings 4 series of fans.
Are they capable of toppling the 120mm category leaders from Noctua and Phanteks?
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how is this channel so small? these reviews are good , the best that i have seen in a while . straight to the point and have economy of words , tests and value
Thanks for sharing your perspectives on this! I love Noctua but I'm excited to see more fans getting released that are good in performance while keeping things sleek. 👌
Hey brotherman! subscribed few days ago, great channel. starting my 2nd itx build with nr200 and your channel has helped me make some good decisions,thank you. Keep up the good work and keep getting them subscribers.
Been waiting for someone to actually review these fans
Wow man thank you this is the exact testing i was looking for
You're good at this man. Good voice, vocab usage, and pronunciation.
Great video! Just what I has looking for and very well made!
It's great to see this fan compared, with great data. Thumbs up!
Well this is another very good fan! Thanks for this review!
this is exactly what i wanted to see, thank you!
Thanks for the review!
As always great and thorough testing! Also like your thoughts on the material of the fan.
I am building a pc for a friend and wanted to include the lian li Uni fans, but I couldn't find good tests of them, although everyone uses them for their rgb and daisychain tech.
It would be very interesting to hear your thoughts on their performance and I bet it would be a video, that would achieve quite a few views, while being interesting to enthusiasts.
Anyway keep up the great work!
Are you going to look at the 140mm version? There is less competition there (no T30-140, for example)
What's a 140?
@@redclaw72666 140mm
@@redclaw72666the only fan size that matters
I was waiting this product thx you ^^
Great review! thanks!
Thanks. Great review!
Thank you for this review. How do these fans function on 0%? My Noctuas stop as designed and my Scythe fans ignore the input and keep 330RPM as minimum.
I'm much more interested in the 140mm variant especially since Noctua have a "next generation 140mm fan" in their roadmap to release in Q4 2022
Yup… will test when that arrives.
@@MachinesMore awesome! Looking forward to that. I would love to see a noise normalised comparison of the leading 140mm fans. There are barely any out there right now
@@james2749 It's already the end of the 4th quarter, announced yet?
@@DutchxShock Thank you, then I'll still take Silent Wings 4 140mm
@@NOM4D- No problem :). Also looking to upgrade. Will you be getting the pro or non pro model?
Hey Machines & More, how do you feel about the upcoming RTX GPU's and their huge power draw for SFF builds? Will we be able to keep top of the line GPU's in our SFF builds (thinking about PSU's and temps)?
Did you ever get the 140mm Silent Wings 4 Pro in for testing? It'd be awesome to see the 140mm version on your C14S test setup!
I'd like Noctua NF-A12x25. Silent Wings 4 got fluid-dynamic bearing, and it's noise level gets more audible over time. Noctua NF-A12x25 got SSO2 Bearing, and it's more stable in case performance over time.
literally watching this as I open mine up!! Just got 2x140 and 3x120 to play with
THANK YOU FOR THIS REVIEW! All the prior reviews are stupid because they don't compare all three of these fans and that's the ONLY comparison that matters. Thank you so much again! P.S. I will be sticking with my Noctua's because these are no better than them or the T30s
You’re welcome. Agreed, if you have the Noctuas already there’s definitely no reason to switch.
@@MachinesMore 👍
The Noctuas and T30s are a side-grade to this thing. It's not "no better". They're literally the same.
@@crylune They are not according to many reviews
Maybe it's because my little ITX PC has a lot riding on two fans to keep 400+ W of heat out, but whenever a high-end fan comes out the urge to buy also does. Thanks for saving me $75!
Building a new high-end PC, trying to decide on what size fans. My case is an NZXT H710 Flow. It will have 3 filtered intake (front), 4 exhaust (3 top radiator, 1 rear). My concern is keeping a more positive pressure without too much hassle. Would I be better off going with 3 140mm in the front, and keeping the rear/top at 120mm? I wasn't sure if there would be a drawback to using 140mm fans in the front and a 120mm in the rear. Thanks for any advice. Great video!
Very informative video! I would like to use this fan into a 3D printer acrylic housing and would like to know what I can use to connect the 4 pin connector on the 140mm Pro fan to 120V AC US house current. I would also like to know what the diameter of the fan circular part is because I plan on installing a HEPA filter to exhaust the fumes from the enclosure. Please let me know, thank you.
Performs very well for a 25mm thick fan
I have 3 Silentwing 3 fans in my PC and they are very high quality. I see the BeQuiet! guys have improved their own design by quite a bit, would probably get this ones if I were building today.
My SW3 aren't good enough to cool a 4090 down to acceptable levels. Getting SW4s.
@@crylune If you got the standard version of Silent Wings 3 (with something like 80 m³/h airflow), then the SW4 low-speed version (which only does 82 m³/h) won't help you there either. You'll simply need higher RPM.
@@efovex Yeah exactly if you need even more performance, then at this point they have to get a higher rpm fan or increase radiator surface area.
Thank you! Very interesting info. Personally, I'm way more interested in 140 fans since my system cooled by 280rad. And I hope you will do it soon.
I'd like to suggest a few points for a more extensive testing:
1. Pull vs Push config test. Some fans do better when pulling air through rad, while others while pushing air through the rad. I find the pull configuration more practical as there is almost no buildup of dust between the fan and rad - way easier to clean and does not require to unscrew the fans from the rad.
I think there are less ppl replacing fans on AIO than ppl building custom loops. So 2-3 is more oriented for custom loop builders as they do have choice. Though I do understand that it is more complicated, requires additional HW and much more time.
2. Typical 30 mm rads, typically come with 16-25FPI. It would be much more informative to have info on performance on both ends (low vs high restriction)
3. It would be very helpful to see the performance of the fans on rads with different thickness. For example 30mm 16FPI vs 45mm 16FPI vs 60 16FPI.
Last time I bought fans for a custom loop build I nerded out and did a somewhat scientific flow test (with a wind meter) between a couple of different fans and came to the conclusion that Silent Wings 3 (1600rpm version) had the best performance to noise ratio on the market. Maybe I should have recorded it and put it up here but I'm not a youtuber (yet) so couldn't be bothered. Let me know though if you are interested in a comparison between Silent Wings 3 and 4.
Hey, I'd be interested in that! I've noticed something similar in the one direct Silent Wings 3 vs. 4 comparison I've seen before - the SW4 (at least the 140mm version) appear to be a downgrade in terms of airflow and static pressure. They also seem to consume much more power than SW3 because they have to spin faster to move the same amount of air. But some reviewers say the opposite so I'm confused.
@@efovex I think I've heard somewhere that the only difference between SW 3 and 4 is that 3 is designed to be in pulling config and 4 in push. The cirkular intake is in opposite directions on 3 vs 4, so it would be interesting to see how big impact this has.
thank you helps me to decide
One thing I like about be quite is they are using pin that hold the fan together. I have 6 be quite fans and installing them was a breeze. I wish other mfg would use that method instead.
I've been buying phanteks t30 3 packs lately for upcoming build, little cheaper than noctuas at the moment $36cad compared to Noctuas $38 beige and $44 black
Hi Can you do a comparison video in NR200 with Nh u9s and L12s coolers? Because in my country India. Neither the c14s nor the U12A is available at MSRP . None of the scythe products are available.. Waiting for a long time .. B/W 12s and U9s .
Finally a good review of these fans.
I am curious how would they perform on air radiator.
Will they be releasing updated Light Wings fans soon as well?
I got my Silent Wings 3 for 10 bucks each my 8 case fans were 80 dollars what a steal!! :) Together with my 3 rads the system is supersilent and temps are below 45C under load :)
The 3 is already one of thé best i had to use... and i mount PCs till more than 20 years
I have 6 T30's in my case, they are awesome.
Love the T30s so much
I bought T30 when it was available here in my country, it was a gamechanger but it's very loud.
I'll consider getting this one
Very loud? Compared to what? Its the quietest fan when performance normalized, wtf are you talking about?
You can adjust the fan speed? The T30 is quietest when normalised as shown in this video.
did you even tune your fan speed? calling the T30s lound makes no sense...
Bro you need to go in BIOS and set fan RPM curve to something reasonable.
The fact that a fan can get loud if it needs to is just headroom, it's an option that most users don't need to take.
Excellent fans
I own a SW3 1600RPM PWM 140mm and so far seems great, but i wanted to replace my 2 200mm 800RPM top fans (blue LED) to another 2. Should i still go and buy 2 SW3 1600RPM 140mm or a basic SW4 (1900RPM) might suffer from noise? (Even thought , when comparing SW3 with SW4 1900RPM, the DB difference seems minimal yet the SW4 1900RPM seems to be more noisey?)
good video thank you.
You are already on the right track with the bigger fan blades, just not tested what they might be worth for.
The bigger fan blades apparently should increase static pressure, so if you use all those fans on a dense radiator, the SWP4 might just outperform the A12x25. Now let's say you build a dual radiator T1V2. Spaces are so freakin tight you will need all the static pressure you can get. That's why the SWP4 might just be better than they seem like.
Good point. In a specialized SFF scenario is just might be. Will try to test as I build up the custom loop in the T1.
I wonder how a Light Wing version would perform if Be Quiet! made one?
can i mount these on dark rock 4 pro's heatsink? If so, will the 140mm version fit in the middle of the two towers or will i have to get two 120mm ones?
Thank you.
These cost around $45 in Canada at some retailers (non-Amazon).
Will the 140 mm version fit on my Noctua NH-D15 CPU Cooler?
I don't think these tests account for the static pressure curve of each fan, do they? The RPM, noise, and static pressure are all interconnected and determined by the physical design of the fan - or is this all effectively accounted for by the graph at 5:53 basically making RPM irrelevant which means static pressure and noise are the only variables of relevance, and the graph basically serves as a proxy for static pressure / air flow (since CPU temp should be directly proportional, right?) does anything i'm saying make sense
Great video, comment for the algorithm
A test i would like to see is 6/7 cheap but good fans vs 2/3 high end fans (same total cost)
Are these compatible with Dark Rock Pro 4?. Regards.
Is the thermal take toughfan noctua clone something you rank against the t30 and noctua? I’d like to know your thoughts on those
From other reviews the Thermaltake Noctua clone doesn't perform as well as the T30 or Noctuas.
I have yet to look at the BeQuiet pressures, but T30 Phanteks pressure is the deal maker for me.
Can you explain more about pressure issues? What was your solution?
@@dougleydorite Fans have different static pressure capabilities. Some fans are capable of pushing “x” amount of flow at higher back-pressures than other fans, and thus move more air. The T 30 has a higher static pressure capability than any of the BeQuiet fans, and more than many Noctua fans.
I’m not sure what you mean by “what was my solution.” I have used T 30 where I have a denser dust filter, or simply want more of the air entering the case to come through that face.
Problem with T30 is the airflow isn't that focused. That fan is only exceptional if you use it as a radiator fan or inside a SFF build. If you're just using the T30 as a case fan it's mediocre; it's objectively worse than a Noctua A12x25 and BQ SW4 as a case fan in most cases.
A few guys already tested it, there's a written article by hwcooling. There's also a small TH-cam channel who compared all the top fans up against the Noctua industrials in a noise normalised setting across their entire rpm range.
@@silvershines Please !
where do you know and where do you see a test that compare a case scenario for fans ?
I need to know what is better for a pc case scenario.
S12A from Noctua looks good but not when you have dust filters 😭
Interested in that 140mm version for my Arctic AiO, until Noctua or Phanteks finally release their 140mm nextgen fans.
How's the 140mm Silent Wings holding up? Not sure what's keeping Noctua from launching their next gen 140mm fans.
Fantastic video, but would you mind turning down the BGM volume a little bit next time? It's kinda disturbing.
Be Quiet is the last company I expect to make a Gentle Typhoon clone, no complaints however.
All three are excellent, but my money is still with Noctua because to my ear it has the most pleasant sound character. If I have to hear it, it better be unfatiguing I figure.
Silent Wings 4 Pro PWN are pricey atm. but tempting!
I've had Arctic and Be Quiet before and had issues with both, Noctua and Gelid Solutions gave me no problems so I ended up using them in my build.
Could you help me?I have an artic 33 freezer eSports one on my nr200 that worked well with my old low profile ram but now I have a pair of trident Z RGB that are so tall that I had to put the bionix fan to pull cause it clashed with the ram. What cooler fits the nr200 that has clearance for tall ram like the trident Z RGB?
Scythe Mugen 5 rev.C
It'd be nice to test them with an air coolers too. NH-U12S, NH-U12A or NH-L12S would be good candidates.
Going to try this!
th-cam.com/video/OuO3b79f1JY/w-d-xo.html this video covers silent wings pro 4 with NH-U12A
U12A, single fan blowing into side with more heatpipes
how much compare with the silent wings 3 ?
Whats the minimum rpm of the SW4 Pro 120s?
Hi , i have a build and i would like an advice. My build is lianli 011 dynamic white with x570i aorus itx with 1 tb nvme gen3 and ryzen 5 2400g and 16gb corsair rbg 3200mhz and corsair xc5 waterblock with 2 360 mm radiators and 6 lian li sl white fans and 3 scythe slim 120mm fans and evga 1000 g5 psu. Its a good build for fortnite 720p mid settings. Intel 12th gen is already out and ryzen 7000 is in couple off weeks. The xc5 based on corsair already supports the new amd motherboard. Any advice. And the pump is corsair xd5 pump.
Sounds like a neat system- without having to change too much else getting a decent mid-range GPU and upgrading to a Ryzen 5 5600 (upgrade your board’s BIOS first) would give you a lot of bang for buck!
Thank you for the detailed tests, but Arctic cooling is in my heart forever😁😁😁
100%. price to performance is still unmatched by pretty much anything in the market today
I had one briefly in my case but oh boy the noises it made at certain RPM ranges... I couldn't stand it.
@@Tup3x it is genuinely some of the harshest agitated frequency differences ive heard, even daisy chained
arctic is not a good choise for people with good hearing. on certain rpm rate they are make my years to run away. so i prefer noctua, but would like to test sw4 but 140mm because have 140mm rads for my waterloop
I find the Noctuas made too much noise when placed next to the case mesh - they start to hum. Replaced all my Noctua 140s with Arctics which, for me, are much more quiet. Love them! I run a fan curve to keep them in their sweet spot rpm ranges.
What are your best recommendations for overall price to performance on case fans?
Arctic P12 is the easy recommendation here especially in multi pack… super good value. For a higher end build the new Silent Wings 4 are more polished in terms of noise and build quality- although I don’t think you’ll see a meaningful difference in performance under 1000 RPM.
@@MachinesMore much appreciated for the recommendations
P12 has been the value fan for a quite a while.
At this point the difference are just build quality between them. I buy Noctua fan because I know they will far outlive the rig with no problems.
Also they give free new mounting for cpu cooler if your current one is incompatible with future mout so that's nice.
Noctua and be quiet! are the best choices for longevity. Why? Noctua has their own high quality bearing, and be quiet! uses ACTUAL Panasonic licensed FDB and not the fake sleeve breaking crappy "FDB" that every other fan on the market comes with.
Any chance you look at the 140mm version as well?
At some point, yes! Am hoping to test against the new 140mm from Noctua when it does come out, otherwise there’s not much of a comparison right now other than the P14.
Include p14 too😁
have you tested thermalright and proartist yet
Please do the 140 version..
I would like to know how these compare to SilverStone Shark Force 120 black and ARGB version high performance fans and Be Quiet! Light Wings 120 High Speed fans.
i have all high speed fans in my system (be quiet) . i'd like to switch 3 fans in my system to silent wings 4 pro . i like the design and sound of be quiet. only the cheap fans they make don't sound as good because the motor is smaller and louder. on a normal day . the fans only spin at 1000rpm . but with high speed fans i have a lot of reserve for hot summer days. i also have a windsimulator with 2 6000rpm antminer fans . so i don't hear much else when gaming besides that and the game itself.
Had Silent Wings 3 for about 5 years at least and they've been day one condition their entire life and found a new home in my friends PC today after my Silent Wings 4 arrived this morning.
Yup mine too I love them I'll still keep them around for when I watercool in my Define 7C. Not too big on the look of the new model also no reason to replace something that works amazing still
Comparing the SW3 1600RPM with the 4, are the 4 1900RPM that much louder and efficient than the SW3 or should i keep the SW3?. Planning to replace to 800RPM 200mm top fans to the BQ ones but dunno wich
@@DVTHEFOX Maybe take a look at the noctua 200mm fans. There might be problems with fitment though as they are quite thick
@@phantomflame0658 Sadly they have the same 800 max RPM as my top 200mm fans
140mm sound test ?
It becomes a bit noisy over 1500 RPM...noisier than Noctua, at least. Would make a great case/air cooler fan, though...
The standard version has a max rpm of 1100 the highspeed pro models are for radiators and heatsinks.
To be honest if you need more than 1500rpm then I think it's best to add another radiator or something to make a more silent system
This.
140mm version?
Needs daisy chain capability like the Phanteks PH-F120T30
Seems every high static pressure fan is a gentle typhoon clone now, except Phanteks T30.
Where is the silent wings pro 140mm review?
I hate that the 140mm fans are worse than the 120mms fans... kinda makes me wonder if a 240mm rad would be better than a 280mm rad just because the fans are massively better in the 120mm class.
And they've listened to feedback, no more orange be quiet logo.
Arctic P12 is still the best for NR200P. It has PST connection and ARGB and it costs only 10€ instead of 30€ without extra cables. It's the VFM king
As a case fan for sub-1000 RPM it’s hard to beat the value there.
Good to know. Running Silent Wings 3, Noctua AF A12x15, and Corsair ML120s personally in my nr200p
Arcitcs are great except they only last like 3 years till they die or have motor/bearing noise. Source - all the pc's in my household use them cause I got some 5packs for cheap. This is the old white/black model though, so maybe they're better quality now
My silent wings 3's are running for 5 years and are like-new
@@nyimakgan Most of the time they're at minimum which is around 25% (They're all PWM). In games the 120mm is 900rpm and the 140mm are 800rpm. I use Fancontrol to ramp em up when the GPU and/or CPU gets hot
@@nyimakgan It's up to 2000rpm. It's the new model with ARGB
i preferd to have full speed tests to have a better view of real perfs.
The beast is pressive and so effective but it doesn't like dusty environment, mine left me after 3 months completely stuck therefore cheaper brands are still running at the same place
I don't think you can go wrong with any modern fan these days.
@David Jung Corsair is irrelevant to me as everything they make is trash.
@David Jung True lmfao
So disappointed you didn't compare the current Noctua 140mm to Silent Wings 4 pro 140mm
tbf current noctua 140mm fan(s) is not so good compared to other contenders on market. hopefully they release new one in this year finally.
no rush noctua - i like your policy to R&D until you are happy with product
I bought it and sell it after listening the motor on low rpms having that tak tak noise . Back to Noctua .
Aesthetically looks better than the brown Noctua and is normal thickness compared to the T30 so will have more case/rad compatibility. If they can be priced lower than both would be hard to pass up.
That’s a terrible place for a speed switch!!! Other than that it sounds like a really good fan.
The Scythe Glide stream 120mm fan that comes with my Ninja 4 has similar ridges in the blades and it has a 3 position switch on the outside frame of the fan.
I really like the way ridges look on fan blades and I wonder how they impact the airflow??
Noctua is to pricey & I can’t stand the Noctua colors😂
Glad I watched this before wasting money on noctua.
All the top players now basically have the same backward swept fan blade design.
They have just both been beat. It may have taken an entire year, but the new 140mm or 120mm Arctic (especially 140mm with 93CFM) P14 MAX (or P12 MAX), beats them both easily. Took long enough.
The silent wing high speed 4 isn’t the same. They push less air and are not as high rpm.
They are good but I would still go for phanteks t30... cheaper n better performance
Where are you finding them cheaper? the SW4 are $25 on newegg could find the T30 for near that price.
T30 costs more, unless on sale?
You keep saying supple about the blades. They're not. The 30% fiberglass filler added will significantly increase the stiffness of the blades(so the opposite of supple) versus older beQuiet designs. That's how they reduced the gap between the blade tip and frame, less straightening and flex at high RPMs.
Wasn't he comparing it to the Noctua? Which had 0.5mm smaller gap, so by that reasoning maybe it's still less rigid.
@@libertyprime9307 He's saying the blades are "supple" with no comparison. They're not. Supple refers to flexibility, and these are the opposite, stiff. I think he's confusing it with graceful or streamlined.
@@Grimmwoldds I think he was trying to say they're lower density. Something can be lightweight but still very rigid.
Sorry, wrong choice of word there- I had meant to say that they are well built. TIL all my life I’ve been using this word wrong- thanks for correcting me!