In my opinion, this is the best ending. Control just seemed way too close to super bad in the long run seeing as how the Reapers could likely break free or the Shepard-AI could eventually come to the conclusion that the Cycle is necessary or something, and Synthesis just kept giving me serious Borg flashbacks. I kinda like to just headcanon that the Reaper AI/Starchild/Catalyst/whatever it was lied and only said the Crucible affected EDI and the Geth in an attempt to preserve itself.
you don't betray them not really, shepard did what was necessary, he didn't do it because he suddenly hated the geth later on. He did what was best for the galaxy which is get rid of the reapers
But we can rebuild both EDI and Geth. They were created by organics before, so they can be created again, it will only take time. We can only hope organics in ME learned from their mistakes.
@@HardCR0W They wouldn't be the same though. We are the sum of our memories and experiences, and a rebuilt EDI and Geth wouldn't have those memories. They would be completely different people. The Geth required the Reaper code in order to achieve that intelligence, now destroyed by the Crucible forever. I cannot morally sacrifice a civilization, a race, just so that I could live a happy life with my LI. I choose the Control ending.
@@MWilmott Yet with synthetics, it is still a code. A code can be reproduced. There can be a backup, new EDI can download informations about the old EDI for example.
@@HardCR0W But memory without context might as well be a history book. The essence of those memories are gone forever. There is an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation that makes plain the point I am trying to make: Season 2, Episode 9: "The Measure of a Man". In that episode, one of the main characters of the show, an android named Data, is ordered to a newly constructed Starbase so that he can be disassembled, and scientists can make millions of copies of Data. Data refuses to comply with this order, because his original creator was long dead, and all records of how Data was created were lost to time. Because of this, Data has no confidence that the scientists will be able to preserve who he is through the process. Even though they will make backups of his memories, the essence of what he felt during those memories would not come with them. It's the exact same thing with EDI and the Geth. Memories can be backed up, but you can't create copies of emotions.
@@MWilmott The Control Ending kind of proves this- with all the technology of the Catalyst and Shepard serving as the template for the new intelligence, the AI isn't a perfect replica- just a monotoned copy. Although your Paragon/Renegade Options still have an effect on the final speech, so maybe there's a sliver of the old Shepard within? That being said, I still pick it so that the Geth live and my successor can fix the damage caused by the Reapers and hopefully pilot them into the sun to permanently end the cycle. I don't see it as using the Illusive Man's solution to the problem, but Mordin's solution- taking control of a genocidal weapon, using it to solve the problem, and dying with dignity. Besides, if the universe really does need another Commander Shepard, the Citadel has access to the Project Lazarus files and my dead clone.
If there is a fallow up on this ending, like a DLC. I'll be happy. I think they can play with this to lead into ME4. Hell, it would be cool to see a post apocalyptic galaxy and seeing a hero having to reunite it. The opportunities are endless.
This should be canon, just because it was your fucking goal since the beginning, avoid any possibility of REAPER threat in the future, so destroy them, for all's sake, from organics to synthetics, who also didn't want them anymore (Legion said geths weren't taking that slaving bullshit anymore). I don't see how Control does it, because that much power can make someone change in a given time (and maybe for the worst) and all would be doomed like the beginning. Synthesis just illudes, because I don't see how it would be the climax of evolution, since the organic part is given to diversity and change, and reapers obsolete because of what? Seriously. And Shepard lives, I don't know how Shep would survive everything, but the ending choice certainly shouldn't kill him/her, since Shep *has* synthetic parts, but *is* not a synthetic, brain was originally his.
In my opinion, the best ending. Synthesis seemed good but its explanation was kind of BLABLA. And Contol was the choice of the Illusive Man which was foolish. After all the pain, suffering and brutality the Reapers caused to organic beings, it seemed only like justice to destroy them. And its the only ending were Shepard survives which is the most important reason for me. To just sacrifice him/herself always felt so wrong to me Would be great if a game/book/movie would take on fromt his point =D
Yeah thats what I thought too, but then, didnt the normandy pick them up too in the second mission of the Game (Mars)? And what about the beginning on earth? Did I miss something in ME2?
yeah, I apologize for insulting you, Bioware is wuite lacking on these sort of things, but compared to some other planets Earth's mass is not that huge.
Liara doesnt put Sheps name on the memorial , is later seen in a trailer picking up an N7 plate. Shepard is alive.
In my opinion, this is the best ending. Control just seemed way too close to super bad in the long run seeing as how the Reapers could likely break free or the Shepard-AI could eventually come to the conclusion that the Cycle is necessary or something, and Synthesis just kept giving me serious Borg flashbacks. I kinda like to just headcanon that the Reaper AI/Starchild/Catalyst/whatever it was lied and only said the Crucible affected EDI and the Geth in an attempt to preserve itself.
You save the geth only to betray them by destroying synthetics lol
you don't betray them not really, shepard did what was necessary, he didn't do it because he suddenly hated the geth later on. He did what was best for the galaxy which is get rid of the reapers
The only problem with this ending is that edi and the geth both die, which HUGELY dissatisfys me
But we can rebuild both EDI and Geth. They were created by organics before, so they can be created again, it will only take time. We can only hope organics in ME learned from their mistakes.
@@HardCR0W They wouldn't be the same though. We are the sum of our memories and experiences, and a rebuilt EDI and Geth wouldn't have those memories. They would be completely different people. The Geth required the Reaper code in order to achieve that intelligence, now destroyed by the Crucible forever.
I cannot morally sacrifice a civilization, a race, just so that I could live a happy life with my LI. I choose the Control ending.
@@MWilmott Yet with synthetics, it is still a code. A code can be reproduced. There can be a backup, new EDI can download informations about the old EDI for example.
@@HardCR0W But memory without context might as well be a history book. The essence of those memories are gone forever.
There is an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation that makes plain the point I am trying to make: Season 2, Episode 9: "The Measure of a Man". In that episode, one of the main characters of the show, an android named Data, is ordered to a newly constructed Starbase so that he can be disassembled, and scientists can make millions of copies of Data.
Data refuses to comply with this order, because his original creator was long dead, and all records of how Data was created were lost to time. Because of this, Data has no confidence that the scientists will be able to preserve who he is through the process. Even though they will make backups of his memories, the essence of what he felt during those memories would not come with them.
It's the exact same thing with EDI and the Geth. Memories can be backed up, but you can't create copies of emotions.
@@MWilmott The Control Ending kind of proves this- with all the technology of the Catalyst and Shepard serving as the template for the new intelligence, the AI isn't a perfect replica- just a monotoned copy. Although your Paragon/Renegade Options still have an effect on the final speech, so maybe there's a sliver of the old Shepard within?
That being said, I still pick it so that the Geth live and my successor can fix the damage caused by the Reapers and hopefully pilot them into the sun to permanently end the cycle. I don't see it as using the Illusive Man's solution to the problem, but Mordin's solution- taking control of a genocidal weapon, using it to solve the problem, and dying with dignity.
Besides, if the universe really does need another Commander Shepard, the Citadel has access to the Project Lazarus files and my dead clone.
I guess if this becomes the "True" ending, they can make a Mass Effect 4. I doubt it, but it's possible.
Yea, I'm slowly also starting to doubt it...
@@bzqp2 well the trailer seems to indicate we will be back on track soon!💪
It always makes me wonder: if the Citadel was repaired, where is Shepard?
Probably rode a piece of wreckage down to earth.
If there is a fallow up on this ending, like a DLC. I'll be happy. I think they can play with this to lead into ME4. Hell, it would be cool to see a post apocalyptic galaxy and seeing a hero having to reunite it. The opportunities are endless.
if you play the game you will see that normandy picks them up
"them" ?
This should be canon, just because it was your fucking goal since the beginning, avoid any possibility of REAPER threat in the future, so destroy them, for all's sake, from organics to synthetics, who also didn't want them anymore (Legion said geths weren't taking that slaving bullshit anymore). I don't see how Control does it, because that much power can make someone change in a given time (and maybe for the worst) and all would be doomed like the beginning. Synthesis just illudes, because I don't see how it would be the climax of evolution, since the organic part is given to diversity and change, and reapers obsolete because of what? Seriously.
And Shepard lives, I don't know how Shep would survive everything, but the ending choice certainly shouldn't kill him/her, since Shep *has* synthetic parts, but *is* not a synthetic, brain was originally his.
Don't worry Shep, your team is coming for you
AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO LIKED THE SYNTHESIS ENDING?
wouldn't have said anything, but literally everyone keeps saying synthesis bad
You are not alone kind stranger ✨💯
In my opinion, the best ending. Synthesis seemed good but its explanation was kind of BLABLA. And Contol was the choice of the Illusive Man which was foolish. After all the pain, suffering and brutality the Reapers caused to organic beings, it seemed only like justice to destroy them. And its the only ending were Shepard survives which is the most important reason for me. To just sacrifice him/herself always felt so wrong to me Would be great if a game/book/movie would take on fromt his point =D
Yeah thats what I thought too, but then, didnt the normandy pick them up too in the second mission of the Game (Mars)? And what about the beginning on earth? Did I miss something in ME2?
Frigates can land on planets. what are you high on?
Wait in extendee cut joker seems able out speed the wave whichmean ed should be alive then
They probably used that as an excuse so they wouldn't have to make cutscenes of the Normandy Sr2 in Mass Effect 2.
Douchebag BioWare!
yeah, I apologize for insulting you, Bioware is wuite lacking on these sort of things, but compared to some other planets Earth's mass is not that huge.
still does'nt explain how the hell your ground team teleported
*SPOILER*
Normandy comes to pick them up
*SPOILER*