Where can I get one?? And I’m wondering if I can use the brass piston sleeve from the WS-MCR ?? I don’t get why they would make the one on the kodiak out of nylon 🤷♂️
Take a look at some of the M+M 10X reviews like the one done by the Military Arms Channel on TH-cam. For the price, performance -wise the WK-180 C holds its own against a rifle that’s $500-$600 more.
That's bullocks. M+M is a new design and it was expected for it have growing pains, most of which has been fixed. This is a copy of a half a century old design with poor execution.
The M10X is ammo picky, has feeding issues out the ass, striker wears very quickly. Defeats the point of a 7.62x39 if you can't even run non-corrosive surplus through it. That M10X is overpriced for a new and unproven platform. Not saying the WK180C is much better, but it is slightly better.
Thank you for the honest review. Based on your experience, if money was no option, and you just wanted something that you could use your AR mags in (lovely Canadian gun ban) would you choose: WK180C, KelTec RDB (if you can ever find one) or IWI x95?
RDB or X95 . But for the price and from the review and video the keltec look reliable and not picky on the mag and it leaves you more money to buy a scope and additional mag lol.
@@patdud1979 Thanks for letting me know :) Will still be a bit yet before I buy, however you've really helped with my decision making on if I buy the 180C this weekend or not 😉
@@aleave438 it's insane how much a short rubber band changes things, wrap it around that peg and it takes a bit more grip to close up but it'll stabilize upper and lower like they were milled of one piece cheapest mod around and among the most significant, imho
Hey, I got a question for you. Did you have to use a shorter bolt to attach the grip? Both the one that came with the original grip and the new grip seem too long.
What I did to compensate for that is use some nuts as spacer to make it snug. You can use nuts that will tread in the bolt or use some that are bigger and float over the bolt 🤙. Hope this help.
@@patdud1979 Awesome idea! Shame on me for not thinking of that.... show's how mechanically inclined I am lol. Great build buy the way, I got the same stock and grip for mine 🤟🏻
I AM THINKING ABOUT GETTING ONE REALLY SOON BUT PEOPLE HAVE COMPLAINED ABOUT THE PISTON ROD BREAKING OR BENDING DID YOU DEAL WITH THAT OR SHE HAS BEEN JUST FINE
This is on the ban list in Canada no more semi auto!! But mine is perfectly fine after 1000 rounds. If you love firearms move to the USA! Canada is becoming a communist dictatorship SORRY.
I just bought one for less than $1300. I only bought it because I miss the ability to use my AR15 that I got just before May 1st, I planned on building a 10” SBR but I can’t now because of the liberal dictator.
Can you upload a video showing how you changed the stock? Or can someone explain it to me? I cannot for the life of me figure out how to get the current one off.
Just look on TH-cam remove AR15 stock. All you have to do is pull on the mechanism instead of pushing on it just to overextend that pin that let’s you select the position on the stock.
I have a few questions, since Kodiak doesn't answer my calls or emails and I'm new to guns. 1) Do you know if the Magpul backup sights are incompatible with this rifle? I bought them and the railing seems too wide to fit it. Maybe I'm doing something wrong though. 2) Every 2-3 rounds there is a stoppage. I imagine that upgrading the extractor spring will help with this, but do you have any other suggestions? 3) Any other parts I should upgrade? I want this to last at least 5 years lol
Extractor spring is a must and only a few bucks. And the back up sight it depends if it is original magpul and if it is for picatinny but just get a red dot or scope it will be a good investment 👍
It is an original magpul, and as far as I know is for picatinny rails. I'll have to try looking at it again. My red dot works perfectly, I just wanted something that can be used if the battery dies or it breaks when in the field. Thanks though, I'll get that spring 😎
@@samuelhydeberg4331 They fit tight which is actually common. They fit tight on both my ar15s and type 97 and the WX MCR. Just take a mallet or screwdriver handle and lightly tap them on. You'll see some of the polymer from the sight shave off and that's nothing to worry about. And as another tip get a light to shine through the hole in the sight as you slide it on so you can see when to stop.
Question - Does your BCM mod 0 grip fit PERFECT or does it protrude out a little bit and create a gap? Asking because I bought the mod 3 with the beaver tail by mistake, cut it off and when I put it on there was a gap.
GOD THAT THIGN IS SEXY! I NEED ONE IN MY LIFE! Been thinkin about pickin one up for the past few days, but just doing some research on it now before i make the jump.
The only thing I could say is that it is expensive for what you get!!! If I could go back I would buy the keltec RDB or jump straight to the IWI Tavor 🤙
@@patdud1979 yeah its def up there for price that's kinda whats holding me back is i'd have to save up a bit for it. But just love the idea of being able to customize it pretty much like how you have it done with some slight differences!
www.danchasse.com/index.php Pas sur que ça soit le bon temps d’en acheter un par contre les libéraux vont probablement le mettre sur la liste dans pas long 😡🤬🤷♂️
Every time I go shooting. This is not a AR buy any means even if it is more expensive 🤣 it is let’s say a bit more delicate and if you want it to shoot reliably then clean it and lube it every time you go shooting 🤙
Im looking to purchase one of these rifles, would you be able to provide links for all the parts you changed in the description? I find it confusing to try to find the compatible parts. Thanks!!
Hey brother great video. I'm having a hard time identifying the exact links for the accessories you have thoughtfully displayed here. Apologies if you have already listed the URLs but would you mind sharing the link for each????
@@mikegenesis sorry these items might be out of stock or remove so it would be hard. But if you search in accessories like but stock or fore grip you will find some maybe not the exact model but you’ll just make it your own 🤙
@@patdud1979 thanks brother appreciate you trying there. I ended up listening to the video and writing down the parts in case anyone was interested: * Magpul SL stock * UT accusync mount * Vulcan v3 brass reflector * Vortex Strike eagle scope * Bcm gun fighter stock * Bcm gun fighter foregrip - large * Olight baldr mini laser * ALG act trigger * Change extractor spring to bcm extractor * UTG metal sight * Blue force gear victor combat application sling
@@tylerbrisbois9809 yep that would work 🤙 but with the liberal back in power stuff like the WK180 will disappear in the next 6 month 😞 any semi auto really 😢 SORRY.
The market is dry and all shop stop buying gear that go on tactical rifle because of the BAN they don’t want to stay stuck with stuff they won’t be able to sell 🤷♂️
Start with the 18" KD handguard and the black Magpul M-LOK vertical grip. Also as many 10-RD LAR-15 mags you can get, I got twelve in total, they work super smoothly with this particular black rifle. And a Vortex Red Dot as well. Best of luck.
Here’s a few places where to get them. ctcsupplies.ca/ www.shootersdirect.ca/ store.theshootingcentre.com/ But since they don’t have some of those in stock you can go too your local hunting store and ask them to place the order for these items with the large Canadian distributor called gravel agency here the link to them where you can order it all in one go👍 passing by your local shop since you need a commercial license to order from them. gravelagency.com/en/ Tumbz up is always appreciated 🤙😉
What I’ve noticed is that most Canadian companies are crooks and try to sell you crap at a premium price 🤬😡 and something else I realized is that I hate this country more and more every year!!
Firearm dealers in Canada are down right thieves. They do whatever they want simply because it's a small and thirsty market and they treat their customers like shit because they know customer service and honesty doesn't matter in this segment. To think that this rifle is selling for almost $1500 when the Robinson XCR is $1700 USD makes me chortle in disbelief.
@@KingKiavash I had xcr when it first came out. It is not as good as you think. The entire rifle was put together from fasteners. Everything came loose after the first range trip.
@@KingKiavash This rifle is $1200 CAD, not $1500 CAD. And you're comparing it to a rifle that's $1700 USD, which is over $2100 CAD. Go pound sand, bud.
@@masato3981 $1,550 for the MCR at the FOC plus %15 tax, comes up to $1700 and change for a $900 dollar rifle that has shit QC and worse trigger than Type81. Go pound a sheep bud.
Originally that's an ALL-BLACK metal TACTICAL semi-auto rifle, for upgrades you make it more tactical not less! No disrespect but yours looks pretty ugly! Look at my last vid to figure out what I'm talking about: all-black including the Magpul M-LOK vertical grip + a very tactical 18" handguard + a Vortex Crossfire II red dot for exclusively short range target shooting self-defense practice on crown land! Good luck.
Look is subjective to each person and in a pinch you can always paint it 😜. Quick suggestions don’t mention self defence in your comment Trudeau might come and take your tool away 😒.
@@patdud1979 No human no matter how powerful he/she might be is capable of taking away your God-given right of self defense with a legally-own firearm! But hey, as you probably have already figured out, I might live and work in Toronto but I'm not a Canadian citizen (see the flag on the gun case!) therefore I proudly hold different views than yours. All the best in life. TRUMP2024!
@@ChrisRoadWarrior Sorry that you live in Canada first of all 😔and if I make enough money at some point I’ll move to the USA 🇺🇸 as well 🤙 2A for life!!
Try the type 97. I was very surprised with it. A lot more rifle for what you pay than the WK180C. Hell if you live near by I'd be willing to let you try it out. Let me know.
No idea where you live, most likely not in Canada, full auto rifles have been prohibited since 1970s and for the mags fully legit to use the 10-rd LAR-15 mags and they work extremely well with this particular black rifle, I own twelve of such mags.
Lol, man, you nervous man? Your nails are chewed down to bone. No wonder you have a scope and backup metal sights and laser is just silly for this bullet hose. You bring to any range with real range officers who are skilled shoots and it’s like showing up with car with too much moding. But I get the addiction to Do it as this hobby is absorbing. Maybe you need an alien predator style mount for your shoulder next. Sorry man, just too many add one for this cost effective black rifle IMHO.
The non restricted and non prohibited tax makes it more money.
May want to think about moving the light to a different position. Should you need to rest the rifle on a ledge it's in the way.
You need to upgrade the charging handle also. The factory one will snap in two pieces after a few hundred rounds.
Where can I get one?? And I’m wondering if I can use the brass piston sleeve from the WS-MCR ?? I don’t get why they would make the one on the kodiak out of nylon 🤷♂️
@@patdud1979 keep me posted on this please
Yup mine did
Take a look at some of the M+M 10X reviews like the one done by the Military Arms Channel on TH-cam. For the price, performance -wise the WK-180 C holds its own against a rifle that’s $500-$600 more.
That's bullocks. M+M is a new design and it was expected for it have growing pains, most of which has been fixed. This is a copy of a half a century old design with poor execution.
The M10X is ammo picky, has feeding issues out the ass, striker wears very quickly.
Defeats the point of a 7.62x39 if you can't even run non-corrosive surplus through it. That M10X is overpriced for a new and unproven platform. Not saying the WK180C is much better, but it is slightly better.
Please guys I'm already depressed enough. Have both and am now treating this process like marrying a woman . Reviews first
Just picked up this gun , looks good
Thank you for the honest review. Based on your experience, if money was no option, and you just wanted something that you could use your AR mags in (lovely Canadian gun ban) would you choose: WK180C, KelTec RDB (if you can ever find one) or IWI x95?
RDB or X95 . But for the price and from the review and video the keltec look reliable and not picky on the mag and it leaves you more money to buy a scope and additional mag lol.
@@patdud1979 Thanks for letting me know :) Will still be a bit yet before I buy, however you've really helped with my decision making on if I buy the 180C this weekend or not 😉
Does the gun still not lock up tight? I know when I had one the upper wouldn't lock up tight. The ws mcr has another pin to keep it tight.
X95 all day long
@@aleave438 it's insane how much a short rubber band changes things, wrap it around that peg and it takes a bit more grip to close up but it'll stabilize upper and lower like they were milled of one piece
cheapest mod around and among the most significant, imho
Cool built!
Hey, I got a question for you. Did you have to use a shorter bolt to attach the grip? Both the one that came with the original grip and the new grip seem too long.
What I did to compensate for that is use some nuts as spacer to make it snug. You can use nuts that will tread in the bolt or use some that are bigger and float over the bolt 🤙. Hope this help.
@@patdud1979 Awesome idea! Shame on me for not thinking of that.... show's how mechanically inclined I am lol. Great build buy the way, I got the same stock and grip for mine 🤟🏻
@@stevemurray7434 enjoy it while you can because you know Trudeau 😏 and vote conservative next election 🤙
Can you please share some details to buy the upgrades i really liked them
Nice video I recently picked this up and am just listing how Im going to change it your recomendations were helpful
I’m glad I could help 🤙
Looks great
I AM THINKING ABOUT GETTING ONE REALLY SOON BUT PEOPLE HAVE COMPLAINED ABOUT THE PISTON ROD BREAKING OR BENDING DID YOU DEAL WITH THAT OR SHE HAS BEEN JUST FINE
This is on the ban list in Canada no more semi auto!! But mine is perfectly fine after 1000 rounds. If you love firearms move to the USA! Canada is becoming a communist dictatorship SORRY.
Idea was great but the end product sucks. Reminds me of the T97 but at least the t97 either work or don't work. No tuning is required.
My gen 2 is on its way!
I just bought one for less than $1300. I only bought it because I miss the ability to use my AR15 that I got just before May 1st, I planned on building a 10” SBR but I can’t now because of the liberal dictator.
Welcome to Canada next year a ban on knife and machete 😂😂🤷♂️
They gonna ban steak knives the way it’s going. Eating steak with a spoon soon.
Shame after $1200 for cost of rifle you gotta invest for me probably $400+ to get running decent .
still more happy with my bullpup rifle in Canada.....but if i were in u.s only gun i ll take is colt ar15
If money was no object I would move there tomorrow 🤙
Can you upload a video showing how you changed the stock? Or can someone explain it to me? I cannot for the life of me figure out how to get the current one off.
Just look on TH-cam remove AR15 stock. All you have to do is pull on the mechanism instead of pushing on it just to overextend that pin that let’s you select the position on the stock.
I'm so on the fence about buying one of these. I really don't want to have to do a bunch of stuff to a brand new rifle to make it function properly.
Keltec RDB🤙 if Only I could go back in time 😩
Thanks for the tip
WS MCR
@@patdud1979 I would probably pay a bit more and get an used tavor. You do need trigger mod because the stock trigger is god awful.
I have a few questions, since Kodiak doesn't answer my calls or emails and I'm new to guns.
1) Do you know if the Magpul backup sights are incompatible with this rifle? I bought them and the railing seems too wide to fit it. Maybe I'm doing something wrong though.
2) Every 2-3 rounds there is a stoppage. I imagine that upgrading the extractor spring will help with this, but do you have any other suggestions?
3) Any other parts I should upgrade? I want this to last at least 5 years lol
Extractor spring is a must and only a few bucks. And the back up sight it depends if it is original magpul and if it is for picatinny but just get a red dot or scope it will be a good investment 👍
It is an original magpul, and as far as I know is for picatinny rails. I'll have to try looking at it again. My red dot works perfectly, I just wanted something that can be used if the battery dies or it breaks when in the field. Thanks though, I'll get that spring 😎
@@samuelhydeberg4331 They fit tight which is actually common. They fit tight on both my ar15s and type 97 and the WX MCR. Just take a mallet or screwdriver handle and lightly tap them on. You'll see some of the polymer from the sight shave off and that's nothing to worry about. And as another tip get a light to shine through the hole in the sight as you slide it on so you can see when to stop.
Sell it and try to recoup most of what you spent.
Question - Does your BCM mod 0 grip fit PERFECT or does it protrude out a little bit and create a gap? Asking because I bought the mod 3 with the beaver tail by mistake, cut it off and when I put it on there was a gap.
Yes perfect fit 👍
Can you post links to these mods? Loving the build!
Just updated the description happy building 🤙
GOD THAT THIGN IS SEXY! I NEED ONE IN MY LIFE! Been thinkin about pickin one up for the past few days, but just doing some research on it now before i make the jump.
The only thing I could say is that it is expensive for what you get!!! If I could go back I would buy the keltec RDB or jump straight to the IWI Tavor 🤙
@@patdud1979 yeah its def up there for price that's kinda whats holding me back is i'd have to save up a bit for it. But just love the idea of being able to customize it pretty much like how you have it done with some slight differences!
Nice build. How did you get the QD sling point at the front?
M-lock adapter you can buy it on Amazon
@@patdud1979 Thanks!
Will any spring from an AR-15 bolt good enough? Good info on that brass deflector.
Spring for the ejector? Yes but you need a strong one the stock one on the kodiak is garbage 👎 like most of the rifle 😂
Lower one eighty, wolverine. You didnt hear from me
Hi there, what rail mount did you use for your vertical grip and tactical device?
Hey, where did you buy yours? Am in quebec as well and looking for one!
www.danchasse.com/index.php
Pas sur que ça soit le bon temps d’en acheter un par contre les libéraux vont probablement le mettre sur la liste dans pas long 😡🤬🤷♂️
@@patdud1979 Justement moi je trouve que cest probablement le bon timing haha
Is this chambered in 556 or 7.62?
5.56 but they are thinking of doing a 7.62 version to 🤙
@@patdud1979 hey already did a 7.62
How often do you clean yours
Every time I go shooting. This is not a AR buy any means even if it is more expensive 🤣 it is let’s say a bit more delicate and if you want it to shoot reliably then clean it and lube it every time you go shooting 🤙
Im looking to purchase one of these rifles, would you be able to provide links for all the parts you changed in the description? I find it confusing to try to find the compatible parts. Thanks!!
Most parts won’t be available in Canada any time soon like the trigger
@@patdud1979 Damn thats a bummer. Ended up buying it today actually and it seems like quite the gun haha
@@garageman_ did you get the magpul edition? That way it is a bit pimp up out of the box 🤙
@@patdud1979 Yeah I did, its very nice. Just trying to figure out how I could attach a single point sling to it.
@@garageman_ single point sling are ball buster 😂 but go on amazon and get QD M-lock sling adapter
♥️♥️
Hey brother great video. I'm having a hard time identifying the exact links for the accessories you have thoughtfully displayed here. Apologies if you have already listed the URLs but would you mind sharing the link for each????
I've browsed each website but without the actual part numbers...I'm having a difficult time
@@mikegenesis sorry these items might be out of stock or remove so it would be hard. But if you search in accessories like but stock or fore grip you will find some maybe not the exact model but you’ll just make it your own 🤙
@@patdud1979 thanks brother appreciate you trying there. I ended up listening to the video and writing down the parts in case anyone was interested:
* Magpul SL stock
* UT accusync mount
* Vulcan v3 brass reflector
* Vortex Strike eagle scope
* Bcm gun fighter stock
* Bcm gun fighter foregrip - large
* Olight baldr mini laser
* ALG act trigger
* Change extractor spring to bcm extractor
* UTG metal sight
* Blue force gear victor combat application sling
@@mikegenesis thx and I hope you build your the way you want it 🤙
Can you put side rails on for more mounts?
On the hand guard yes. On the receiver no but you can probably mount a reflex sight at a 45 degree angle for quick acquisition.
@@patdud1979 yes I'm looking for laser and slanted sight. And a scope. What do you think?
@@tylerbrisbois9809 yep that would work 🤙 but with the liberal back in power stuff like the WK180 will disappear in the next 6 month 😞 any semi auto really 😢 SORRY.
Are these Legal in Canada?
Yes
how old is your wk180c?
Where did you get your bcm parts from?
Links in the description 👍
Funny can't see the links on my computer thanks.
POST THE EXACT LINK TO THE EXACT PARTS SO WE DON'T HAVE TO SEARCH THE BLOODY SITE FOR IT
i just got the Kodiak i was wondering if anyone could help me deck it out i looked on many website and cant find much
The market is dry and all shop stop buying gear that go on tactical rifle because of the BAN they don’t want to stay stuck with stuff they won’t be able to sell 🤷♂️
Start with the 18" KD handguard and the black Magpul M-LOK vertical grip.
Also as many 10-RD LAR-15 mags you can get, I got twelve in total, they work super smoothly with this particular black rifle.
And a Vortex Red Dot as well.
Best of luck.
Can you link to some of those ad ons?
Here’s a few places where to get them.
ctcsupplies.ca/
www.shootersdirect.ca/
store.theshootingcentre.com/
But since they don’t have some of those in stock you can go too your local hunting store and ask them to place the order for these items with the large Canadian distributor called gravel agency here the link to them where you can order it all in one go👍 passing by your local shop since you need a commercial license to order from them.
gravelagency.com/en/
Tumbz up is always appreciated 🤙😉
This is a $900 dollars all day long. They're milking the AR ban.
What I’ve noticed is that most Canadian companies are crooks and try to sell you crap at a premium price 🤬😡 and something else I realized is that I hate this country more and more every year!!
Firearm dealers in Canada are down right thieves. They do whatever they want simply because it's a small and thirsty market and they treat their customers like shit because they know customer service and honesty doesn't matter in this segment. To think that this rifle is selling for almost $1500 when the Robinson XCR is $1700 USD makes me chortle in disbelief.
@@KingKiavash I had xcr when it first came out. It is not as good as you think. The entire rifle was put together from fasteners. Everything came loose after the first range trip.
@@KingKiavash This rifle is $1200 CAD, not $1500 CAD. And you're comparing it to a rifle that's $1700 USD, which is over $2100 CAD. Go pound sand, bud.
@@masato3981 $1,550 for the MCR at the FOC plus %15 tax, comes up to $1700 and change for a $900 dollar rifle that has shit QC and worse trigger than Type81. Go pound a sheep bud.
That foregrip and scope are both way too big and dont look good imo sorry
Originally that's an ALL-BLACK metal TACTICAL semi-auto rifle, for upgrades you make it more tactical not less!
No disrespect but yours looks pretty ugly!
Look at my last vid to figure out what I'm talking about: all-black including the Magpul M-LOK vertical grip + a very tactical 18" handguard + a Vortex Crossfire II red dot for exclusively short range target shooting self-defense practice on crown land!
Good luck.
Look is subjective to each person and in a pinch you can always paint it 😜. Quick suggestions don’t mention self defence in your comment Trudeau might come and take your tool away 😒.
@@patdud1979 No human no matter how powerful he/she might be is capable of taking away your God-given right of self defense with a legally-own firearm!
But hey, as you probably have already figured out, I might live and work in Toronto but I'm not a Canadian citizen (see the flag on the gun case!) therefore I proudly hold different views than yours.
All the best in life.
TRUMP2024!
@@ChrisRoadWarrior Sorry that you live in Canada first of all 😔and if I make enough money at some point I’ll move to the USA 🇺🇸 as well 🤙 2A for life!!
Well I won't be wasting my money.
Ho yes you will!!! But on something else lol 😂
@@patdud1979 Haha, this is true.
Try the type 97. I was very surprised with it. A lot more rifle for what you pay than the WK180C. Hell if you live near by I'd be willing to let you try it out. Let me know.
@@stasiaroycewicz329 That would be awesome. I'm in the GTA/Toronto area.
All that money for no full auto and 5 round mags? No thanks I’ll just wait until I live in another country to be a gun like this. :(
If you win the lotto take me with you 🙏🙏 LOL
@@patdud1979 I definitely would that’s the thing.
No idea where you live, most likely not in Canada, full auto rifles have been prohibited since 1970s and for the mags fully legit to use the 10-rd LAR-15 mags and they work extremely well with this particular black rifle, I own twelve of such mags.
@@ChrisRoadWarrior yeah you can get those mags but still. I hate how we pay more for guns that have less function and features.
@@hunter4243 Become a CCFR member and fight for better gun rights and laws!
Also get involved in politics b/c ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES!
Whine too much at the start, holy.
They might ban this one next
Yep but if WW3 is coming maybe Trudeau will think twice about taking away are guns!!!
@@patdud1979 highly doubt it he plays by putins own book calling people nazi's and taking peoples property
Lol, man, you nervous man? Your nails are chewed down to bone. No wonder you have a scope and backup metal sights and laser is just silly for this bullet hose. You bring to any range with real range officers who are skilled shoots and it’s like showing up with car with too much moding. But I get the addiction to Do it as this hobby is absorbing. Maybe you need an alien predator style mount for your shoulder next. Sorry man, just too many add one for this cost effective black rifle IMHO.
Lol 😂 maybe there a bit to much stuff but a lot of people like it and want to build something similar 😜
@@patdud1979 Yay, I get it and mean no offence. Just kidding around as sorta laughing at myself also. I’m hooked on modding everything also.. lol