Tuya's New Home Assistant Integration Just Saved The Smart Home Industry
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.ค. 2021
- Tuya is about to go local with their official Tuya integration 2.0 for Home assistant and this is a massive deal for the Smart Home industry whether you use Home Assistant or not! Tuya's new focus on local based tech and an open development platform proves that an industry giant is actually interested in giving you back control of your smart home. The new Tuya Home Assistant integration is currently in beta and is not yet localised, but local support is officially on the road map!
This video is sponsored by Tuya, all opinions are my own.
Whether you use Alexa, or Google Home, or even Philips Hue (god forbid) this is a huge turning point for the Smart Home industry, as it shows a major player is willing to do the right thing. In an industry where Philips Hue is happy to kill your smart home bridge from across the Internet through panned obsolescence, and IFTTT is happy to start charging for services you already paid for, Tuya are making the opposite move and giving you the opportunity to drop the cloud!
Try out new Tuya Integration v2 beta here: bit.ly/3y4vE47
Check out their development platform here: bit.ly/3BAVdfj
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Happy Saturday everyone! This latest development is making me look closer at Home Assistant again! If you're interested in trying out the new Tuya Integration v2 beta then it's here: bit.ly/3y4vE47
Also check out their development platform here: bit.ly/3BAVdfj
I hope the eventually add support for wifi cameras,
Big fan from you paul, grettings from Guatemala btw, 4am and I just cant go to sleep before watch your video
I signed up, and liked/follow their FB page. As an end user, I look forward to being in control of the smart home hardware I purchased.
Once this all works as hoped, I look forward to moving control of my Google Smart Home devices, so I control what I paid for.
Can't talk now... On a deep automation dive in Home Assistant Automations.... Send a search party if I don't make it back before nightfall. Live long and prosper
You're right, Paul. HA is without a doubt the way to go. Is it a humongous hemorrhoid to set up? You bet, but if it mens flipping off the turds at Samsung etc. that have forced me into this corner then so be it.
Welcome to HOME ASSISTANT MASTER RACE
Your "HOME ASSISTANT! HOME ASSISTANT!" Chant will become a positive chant given time. Lol.
Tuya using Paul to beta test their home assistant integration? Dang, they really are committed! 😂
My first thought was this too. They're not messing about and taking the long road clearly 😂
🤣🤣🤣 Yes, a brave move for sure!
Where is official Tuya local functionality as today?
Tuya services has played a major role in bringing in smart home products to the very emerging markets like India, almost all the products I use have the tuya platform & app skinned by the respective manufacturer! Smart Bulbs are available as low as 5$, seems like the home assistant support will take it to a whole new level!
Where u bought tuya products bro?
@@Vinothmanick anything from smitch, wipro, homemate uses tuya platform to power their services
And in west Europe (through Action) made smart home A LOT more mainstream here 😎
like the features, setup was difficult for some of my devices (August Door lock, th-cam.com/users/postUgkxhB5YOMNj04GuoAosExygP4cH-dKeb4aB Bose speaker)... but all switches and outlets (5), thermostat, tankless water heater. Unfortunately all I can do is turn on/off Bose. It doesn't support volume or changing channels, but I believe that is due to the particular speaker I have.... Worth getting if you already have other devices to use it with... I don't sit around and ask Alexa questions much so that doesn't really matter to me....
Tasmota paved the path for Tuyas move. That’s historical and a clever move by Tuya
Definitely agree with this for the WiFi side. That said, Tuya had actively "discouraged" Tasmota. It looks like this may be part of Tuya trying to kill off "Tuya Convert" and similar projects. Very clever move to reduce Tasmota's influence
@@EsotericArctos if you can't beat them.
Join them.
And distroy them.
It does seem like trying to kill the competition via the backdoor, just adding mqqt support to the devices or even publishing the API would allow for all of this but wouldn't leave them in the loop.
@@MiggyManMike Shelly seemed to try that. Adding MQTT in their firmware so tasmota wasn't needed. I guess it gives room for them to have a trojan backdoor to allow data collection if the device is online while allowing local control if it goes offline (tin foil hat came out :) )
The Dutch did it again
Paul This is an amazing development. I am so happy that I made the decision to introduce Tuya powered smart LED Lamps in Germany. Keep up the great work!
The definition of a Smart Home doesn't involve an Internet connection to someone else cloud home... thats just a "connected to someone else home" ...
this is what I've been waiting for
Great video Paul. Keep up the honest (and slightly twisted) home automation videos. Good stuff. I own a bunch of Tuya gear, but I am always looking for other gear that has more local control. If Tuya is going to commit to the HA engagement and local control, I commit to buy more Tuya gear, and to recommend it to my home automation friends.
Best one yet Paul …
Put simply and honestly - If I hadn’t been out of work since 2018 I’d be a patreon Paul, but as it is you cheer up my Saturday mornings more than you can imagine and one day I hope I’ll be able to make it up to you.
Home Assistant is a fantastic piece of work but it is also a bastard to get to grips with … I’m getting there slowly but I now have some NodeRed stuff working after several days of what felt like slamming my balls in a door followed by a lightbulb moment one night.
Thanks so much Phil but don't ever feel pressure to support me financially 😊 I'm happy you're here watching regardless. ❤
@@paulhibbert just for that, you earned yourself a patreon
So much love in this thread. Thanks so much man!! ❤️
For me it's not about trust. It's about my smart home still working when the access to cloud fails. And there's a lot of things that can fail - local ISP network, BGP routing, undersea cables, cloud itself. As a network/cloud engineer i simply know how vunerable all that infrastructure is so i prefer do do things locally regardless of the company.
I only found Home Assistant a couple of weeks ago. (Yes, I should be watching your videos more often.) Knowing that Tuya is working with them makes it all the more worthwhile to use them.
Not entirely sure what happened here… Paul trying to not bash Home Assistant?!
I’ll give it a day to check if the video was a hoax and will be deleted, but for now: color me impressed
When Mr Socky started using Home Assistant I had no choice. He beat me until I made this video! 😐
Ronaldt .....home assistant.
I’m waiting for this not to be vapour ware, then possibly get a Pi.
@@paulhibbert Mr. Socky is such a wise soul.
yeah maybe he thinks its april 1
If your a homebridge / HomeKit nerd, we’ve had local Tuya access for ages, BUT this is an amazing move by Tuya. Tuya are also working on a native homebridge plugin too. Again, another awesome video Paul :)
That bump on his head has made him forget to put the link to the Tuya's IOT platform
Haha, whoops! It's there now!!
I’m always entertained by Paul’s videos. Recently started making my home into a smart one and his videos are informative while funny as hell. Keep up the good work my guy, your earned the subscribe 11/10 would recommend your channel.
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
This video has made my day happy, and given me something fun to look forward to! I was on the verge of dropping tuya for that very reason of no internet, no worky... And now, I'm probably going to wait and see.
Did I say thank you, yet? Well, thank you! Just in case it wasn't clear already 😅
It turned out that the promise of an official local Tuya integration was not fulfilled by Tuya. Paul, you should consider amending this video.
Love your in depth analysis of Tuya and Home Assistant. I currently use SmartThings and would love to see your transition from ST’s to HA if you end up down that road!
You’ve got to love this guy.
He’s so funny.
Another video masterpiece Paul.
Sorry I didn’t get to see this on Saturday but I was enjoying my birthday. 🎂
For anyone else confused just a year after this video was release, the Tuya V2 integration no longer exists as it has been integrated into Home Assistant core. I didn't find this clear in the official docs, nor in Tuya's GitHub repo. So hopefully this saves others some time:
This is the most helpful description I've found:
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I just found you today, loved the video. Going to check out your back catalog. Cheers
This is good news, and lots of manufacturers use the Tuya platform so this is a big deal, Home Assistant rocks, yes it has a long way to go before it goes from nerdy to need it, but it’s getting there. Great video Paul.
Love it! You make your points so clearly and easy to understand. I look forward to your vids every week.
❤️❤️❤️
Hi Paul - has local integration on HA been finalised from open Beta?
I'm glad to have follow your tips to get a full Tuya smart home a years ago!
No matter what, you absolutely MUST continue with the hip thrusting, Paul! My Saturdays will be rendered meaningless without it. 💜
This is a really smart move from Tuya. I used Home Assistant to tame my setup here, and despite the learning curve, I wouldn’t be without it now.
I used to use their IFTTT integration for Hubitat. It was unbelievably quick all things considered and never failed! Obvious down falls of course!
I spent the first 6 minutes totally distracted by that mark on your head... Once explained I then had to go back and start again!! Brilliant video as always 🙂🙂🙂
I seen that Gosund bedside light. Love them just as much as my Saturday morning Paul Hibbert video. Keep em coming.
Another great video Paul, I am more impressed with the amount of times you mentioned those two magical words "Home Assistant" 😂
I will have to check out some of the gear from Tuya, not sure if it is even available here in Canada. Keep up the great work & stay safe.
This is pretty massive really, Tuya's insanely massive catalogue is more than enough to make this really exciting.
I know I say it a lot, but simply the funniest youtube channel ever! Always makes me genuinely laugh out loud 👍 keep up the good work Paul
originally came for the tech. Keep coming back for the thrust
A year on and we have seen that all one gets is still a 1-month limited trial account while the 'cheapest' subscription under the IoT Core Plan is a whopping USD 25,000 :) So it seems to have been a short term marketing move to get more people to buy Tuya in hope of using it with HA thus increasing their market share.
Absolutely love your videos, I literally get excited as soon as I wake up on a Saturday morning just to see your videos before I head out for the day 😁..... what zigbee dongle are you using for your Home Assistant please as I am thinking of joining the Home assistant world 🌎😀.
Paul! Thanks for getting the word out! I want to lease flats with smart home features. This may be the the missing piece that makes it possible.
I now nominate Paul for global smart home ambassador to industry!
The tinfoil bit with the toaster gave me a good chuckle!
I am amazed that Paul Hibbert finally has something nice to say about Home Assistent. I really like his channel for discovering new products and protocols, but never agreed with his opinion about Home Assistent untill now. I really hope je will finally give Home Assistent a real chance. I would even want to help him setting up all his integrations and automations.
Hello Paul, I’m from NZ and I’m loving and laughing my way through your Chanel ! Sadly (i think you will find that i am sad lol) i am a die hard apple and hue fan ! However i won’t ever ditch apple but you are giving me such great insights and honesty (which i admire) to other smart lighting options and so on !! So thank you for the entertainment it’s most welcome 🤗 in my life !!!
Using Home Assistant as Bridge in Homekit works suprisingly well. Even my DIY Garage Door Opener (running ESPHome) works.
About time Home assistant for Paul ... now broadlink needs to get sorted (easier) and Paul will be totally sold lol ... Great Video as always ... Keep up the great work
I actually found broadlink very easy to integrate. The only issue was having to re-learn all the codes. No need to edit files, just create a script that calls the required code sending. The scripts can be called from node red so no need to relearn the codes separately in there.
I've also created replacement remotes pages in Lovelace :)
@@mikeguest6307 I think the issue more is that Paul has already created the links to his remotes in the app. What the fix in it all is that broadlink integration auto ports those directly to home assistant like Harmony Hub did. I will say in no way this is a bad word against broadlink and HA, like you have done the same ... its more the rule do not break user land and make it user friendly for those who do not intend too play due to reasons and just want it in front of them : )) Get the job done rather than the tinkerer in most things
Don't get me wrong, its gotten loads easier recently but it's still no where near as intuitive as it could be. Once they add support to directly import commands/controls from the app then I think it will have properly arrived. That being said, the Home Assistant integration cuts out the cloud-polling middle-man with the app that reduces latency to be almost instant. I now control all my BroadLink stuff through Home Assistant and its by far the best experience with IR/RF-based devices!
@@DestinyKey13 totally agree
Wow ! Paul this is epic ! now i need. err slowly get my stuff to work on Tuya lol. But I do hope that other companies follow suit would be great !
Paul, really thanks.
You just made my Hydroponics Vegetable Grower into Homekit, and Apple system.
HOOOOMMMMEEEE ASSSSSSISSSTANNT !!!!!!!
Does tuya still depend on the cloud, even if you have a local zigbee hub?
I left it disconnected from the Internet for 4 hours and it was still working. I suspect it still needs to connect to the cloud intermittently, but if it does then they've certainly extended it a long way.
I see the same issue with motion detectors in the Alexa skill, it simply won't work, just says the sensor permanently sees motion. Is there a work around you know of Paul?
This seems like good news, but after watching the video I'm not certain if the cloudless integration will be available immediately after the beta ends - or if we will get suckered in with the new features and then the local option gets delayed indefinitely...
🤯
Still not here it looks like :/
"I don't have a cut-away gag for that..."
"Well, that's eunuch." :)
All gags aside, one thing I like about your videos is that you are honest (or at least really good at faking it). So, when you find something good to say about, say, Home Assistant, you say it. You don't hold a grudge over that 3 days lost trying it again a few months back. Thanks.
Also, This is great news. I'm looking forward to adding more Tuya to my home and taking advantage of the local integration.
Knew we'd get you eventually, Paul. We need to start working on synchronizing our hip thrusts.
In 3... 2... 1...
Have the integration working, wow so good so far. Love the fact that the Zemismart switch ( Tuya ) is controlling my WIZ bulbs
Respect to Tuya and Pawl. Wondering if the local control will require new devices? Very excited about local control
Totally agree with your comments about HA being the good guys. Also to add, they do all of what you said for free, with professionalism, reliability, and no intention of ever making profits off you. It’s an open source ‘business’ that’s ran like a profit making company. Brilliant.
Those abused by sockie are real people too! Love you Paul! HOME ASSISTANT! No Cloud is the only way.
*humps the air in Home Assistant
Can't decide if I like foil head guy or Philips guy more :) Great vid, didn't know this was happening and now I can't wait!!!
After Paul's last Home Assistant video, which I agreed with entirely, I somehow ended up making Home Assistant the backbone of my Smart Home, I hadn't touched it before then. So this Tuya integration is great news.
Home Assistant! Home Assistant!!
Very interesting... can't wait to see if they move forward with local control. If so, I'll be buying a lot of Tuya products.
If this goes through and they do make everything local, it's huge!
I am wondering if there is any way for Tuya to try charging people for access to the integration in the future once they have everyone's buy in, even if home assistant itself is largely free. The smarthome industry has left me very wary!
Hi Paul, as someone new to smart home tech and your channel! Love the presentation technique. How would you rate the offiline nature of the Tuya compared to Hubitat?
I gave Tuya V2 a go, I love it! It found my Genio Mirabella bulbs which the original Tuya integration didn’t.
Let us know when they're ready to go I'm in it's the one thing that has put me off making my home a smart home 👍👍👍
Thanks Paul. Happy Saturday! 👍🏻
Lol absolutely love your vids great and very informative but going Philips hue for a moment what do you think about Philips hue I’ve a stack of outside lights and indoor a sockets all done great a reliable so far haven’t bought any more of there products lately lol totally agree very expensive but do work great?
now THIS is a market leading GAME changer ! ... homeassistant is the future !
6:05 just a little note: the speed of your homeassistant greatly depends on what hardware you installed it. a NUC? a NAS? a pi? how much memory? SD or SSD? that all matters... and ofc the quality of your wifi
I agree with you about Home Assistant. I’m using a Hubitat C7 to controll my home but when tine comes to replace that one I’ll probably gonna choose Home Assistant instead.
Hi Paul, could you please explain why you say that Phillips hue requires an internet connection? As far as I know it is not the case and you can even configure the hue hub to be accessible from local network only. All the logic is stored in the hue hub and one can go pretty far in customisation and programmation inside the hub using winhue or all4hue.
Honestly delighted. This will make transitioning from no control to total control seamless. SO much less stressful. Buy Tuya? Yep, sounds good.
Looks good, definitely going to try HAS again. would be great if Tuya could make some UK style switch modules. Currently using Aurora dimmer modules but they use smart things which seems to be dying…
I've never used tuya stuff or looked that hard at any of it - just because I got home assistant almost immediately after getting into smart home stuff and I knew I would be moving away from wifi from then forward.
This definitely makes me want to look at a lot more products out there that I wouldn't have otherwise. First on my list is blinds! I haven't gotten any smart blinds yet because I want solar powered or battery operated ones AND I don't want them to be wifi. The only blinds I found to date that I liked and had a solar option were the Yoolax shades on Amazon but they use tuya and therefore are wifi only. And all the zigbee motors I found had power cords 😣 so I had given up until now!
I work for a leading tech company, as the company has grown we've gone from bending over backwards to be the good guys winning the hearts of the average user, to moving into the big business world and ditching so much of the great functionality which made us standout from the field. I fully understand the choice as the market was saturated and growth had slowed. I just wished it could have gone down a different route.
Lets hope Tuya doesn't go the same way!
I am sorry, football came to Rome 😂By the way.. awesome video as usual!
I love the integration, but am hoping they will get support for the Tuya IR blaster you reviewed recently.
It’s inevitable Neo, I mean Paul, Home Assistant is the way 👍
I will enjoy more your channel knowing you will follow the HA route 👍
Isn't the Home Assistant to Phillips Hue integration local already? I use it to manage my motion sensors as the hub quickly gets too full, and it's essentially delay-free
For Hubitat folk there are a bunch of drivers for Tuya gear (rebranded for Lidl) which support local-only control already. Tuya are sensible and use mostly the right Zigbee commands, so they’re not too tricky to support. Search on the Hubitat community forum for Tuya Lidl drivers. Somebody *cough* may have gone a little wild in the Lidl isles last year. 😁
I don't mind working from the cloud. I'm looking at some of the tuya stuff and not sure which app is now better smart life or tuya. Currently have the smart life installed for couple of devices I have
newbie question : so with home assistant i can automate 2 products that otherwise wouldnt work together? like a MI motion sensor with a broadlink device (led strips DYI) ???
Yay Saturdays Video :-D Bad Mr Socky, tut, tut! Another fun, interesting and informative video :-)
Thanks dude! And congrats on the coveted first comment! 🤣
sonoff already has local mode for many devices and a Home Assistant plugin. The one most lacking is the zigbee hub. Are Tuya adding their Zigbee hub? i was going to flash my sonoff to do so.
And this comes just on time, as I’m looking at how to wire up my new flat… looks like I should be looking a tuya closely to see if it covers my needs… certainly more future proofed than closed solutions like the btcino stuff I was looking at…
Will HA denounce this like they did the Sonoff/ewelink one?
Any idea what kind of transport protocol are they using between gateway and Home Assistant? Serial over wifi is unstable, whilst MQTT etc. are more robust. But it is also a question of managing queues in the gateway so events don't get dropped out. I'm just wondering will this local Tuya work with a unstable wifi or piped over the internet, or is MQTT still the best way to go.
Thank you Paul for the home assistant thrusting!
Thanks Paul! Great and informative content yet again.
If you are going to use home assistant, you should look at the node red addon. its much easier to get more powerful automations much easier than home assistant can on its own. I think once you get your head around that you'll love it.
Are there any updates to this? I was reading the official Tuya page about the integration and in the Q&A section they say something about subscribing to the API program. And also is there any news about the official integration making devices operate locally?
How did this pan out? Is there now a working Tuya integration for Home Assistant?
Is this just for Tuya products or any device that uses their platform?
Does this work with Tuya ZigBee device such as switches? Do you need a Tuya ZigBee hub/gateway for the integration?
man you are the best, your Videos are some of the best and informatic onces belonging smart devices and furthermore they are extremly funny. i laugh so hard every time the tin foil comes out :D
Keep up the good work!
I think this is the time to start my smart home, I'm sold on this!
Sounds awesome! But where can you but their products? All the websites ive been to have minimal orders of 50 to 500 items. That's a lot of lightbulbs.
This is awesome. Especially with tuya-convert not working with most new smart bulbs...
Do you need a Tuya hub to use Tuya stuff or can it work with Smartthings Hub?
Please make a compilation of all your "if you like this video, please give it a thumbs up... Etc" that would be hilarious.
Awesome vids by the way
All of my light switch are using rf and broadlink. Can broadlink connect to tuya platform?
Honerable mention to Eufy!!!! Such a great set of products that are cloud free.
I was sad to learn that the Eufy app requires cloud access in order for their doorbell. Even though the recordings are stored locally, if the cloud goes down, camera and recordings are no longer accessible.
Great vid as always but I do like Internet connection, purely because I like to be able to control or monitor things when away from the house, by the way Paul any recommendations for fingerprint door locks that are waterproof and work with upvc multipoint locking?
Expose your home assistant to the internet - problem solved.
Can anyone help me please alexa app is showing one of my tuya door sensors as a motion sensor. Any idea why and if I can change this? I have other tuya door sensors and the show up fine in alexa app.
So...do you have to register with Tuya at all or can this work 100% offline from start to finish?