Part 2 is out now! Watch it here: th-cam.com/video/LyYm-j40DOw/w-d-xo.html Thank you for watching! If you would like to support this channel, you can do so at www.buymeacoffee.com/indiascarlett Who is your favourite swan?
Because my husband worked at NBC News, we once had lunch in NY with Anthony Radziwill & our media friends. I sat next to him & was dazzled by his good looks & his humility. It got me interested in learning about his mother’s amazing life & style so I read about her & saw her interviews.
I hate the comments saying it’s the ladies fault for telling a writer their secrets. No! He was their friend. People don’t value friendships it’s really sad. If he was such a genius he could’ve made better stories. He was a brilliant writer but also a terrible friend
It's crazy how many artists made their fame and money exploiting other people. Any documentary I seen on Andy Warhol paints him as a real asshole. I don't care how many times they say the word genius. The weird part is, I don't think his art is great at all, I always assumed he got famous because of his personality. But, all you have to do is meet a couple of art students and you'll realize that in those circles, no one has any real talent. it's just a bunch of pretentious jerks with money to spend and status to buy.
That's only one way to think about it. Outside of being a writer, he was a known notorious gossip. I don't want to say they were at fault but, I can say that they shouldn’t be surprised. One of the biggest lessons you'll ever learn in life is to choose your company wisely. This is one heck of a way to learn 'Life 101.' Gossips are doing to you, what they are doing to others. It's not about you, it's a compulsion with people like that. Therefore, your friendship isn't solidifying your safety in that union. That’s a good reason why Truman didn’t understand why they froze him out of their lives. Keep your 'self' away from gossips.
I grew up with these ladies (I’m in the Antiquities section of old ladies) and it was cutthroat competition between them. Their first mistake was treating Truman as a lap dog, a funny little court jester. None of them took Truman too seriously and milked him on his (and their) favorite topic: Gossip. IMO the first poster nailed this phenomenon. These women were the definition of “frienimies.”People can be very talented but that doesn’t make them any more discreet. It also speaks to *how lonely they truly were* which-Truman exploited to the max. They had all the trappings of wealth but paid in many other ways for the privilege. I wouldn’t assume they particularly enjoyed it: integrating into Society, securing advantageous marriages *was* their “job.” Please remember the time period in which these women lived-within the very strict confines of a woman’s “acceptable” options. Thank you for a great documentary. It’s very insightful and equally as well presented.
Hurt people hurt other people. Although talented, Capote was still broken and unhealed from childhood. Monetary success has always been seen as the answer and band-aid to unhealed wounds. They don't. This was well done.
I’ve been a hairdresser and makeup artist and been around women ( all kinds) 30 something years and they do talk smack a lot about each other a lot. When they confide in you and tell you deeply personal things ( I would rather not know) you do have to discipline yourself not to say anything. If you can’t say something nice about a person don’t say anything. You wouldn’t want someone to put your s- - t out there especially if they are a celebrity Truman Had to know this .
The clever swans like Lee Radzwill and CZ Guest didn’t confide their secrets to Truman and so they were saved from him revealing them in his book. They both remained his friends for that reason. Moral of the story don’t tell your secrets to a writer
Although glamorous, this life sounds like hell. Zero real friends, sketchy husbands, and your main occupation is giving/receiving to a bunch of people that you don't really care about.
Men at that level have big egos, therefore big sex drives and always feel completely intitled. Because they are! White men rule the world to this day. So that was the price the women paid for great wealth, husband's cheating.
The full quote "There are more tears shed over answered prayers than unanswered ones" is astonishingly applicable to both Capote and the Swans. Excellent documentary. Glamourous facades hiding so much pain...and bad behavior. Thank you...
Capote always talked about his mother’s (horrific) abuse of him and her violent alcoholism - yet like so many he repeated the same exact patterns. This story resulted in the swans never speaking to him again (at best) to one of the swans unaliving herself - Capote had sadistically lashed out at women who honestly loved him and accepted him despite his “eccentricities”
I'm pretty sure his drinking and partying was so unmanageable that he just assumed he could write whatever he wanted. It was grandiose thinking to believe no one would get hurt and abandon him.
@@shawandajenkins7127 Gore Vidal, famous for hair, in the late 70s came out with Vidal Sassoon hair products. Literally the shortest description ever. 🤣 Google for better information. 😊
@@shawandajenkins7127Gore Vidal was another gay writer. Related to Al Gore, he like Truman was a southern boy. His mother married Hugh Auchincloss, Jr. & had two kids together. Jackie O’s mom was his next wife & they also had two children.
This was a walk down memory lane for me. I was born in 1950, and was an avid reader of everything in print and viewer of everything on the three TV channels we had back then. I remember all the swans except for Woodward. I used to fantasize about their lives. I read Truman, Steinbeck, Hemingway, all the men whose lives crossed paths with the swans and their husbands. A fabulous time; America at its zenith. New sub on Maui 🌸🤙🏼 Yes, please do more!
I was born in '60 and same with all you said. I was pretty well read at 10 and lapped up literature, art and fashion. I started telling my son about Capote, his life and books and not only did he seem bored but he wasn't interested. I feel sorry for our youth because they're limited with human contact and plugged into computers. I think because of this their imagination is lost along with any interests of The Arts. It's very disappointing because I'm an Artist and made an effort to take my children to cultural events in NYC until they were 18. I can still hope!
@@nancyprawdzik8348 I haven’t personally as back when I was a 5 book a week gal (before smartphones and all the sidetracking things they have kidnapped my mind) my main reading went from horror, crime to teaching manuals ect. From what I’ve picked up about his work he was talented 🦋
I agree with seeing Capotei as a gossipy hairdresser- I not to mention pretentious--FUN FACT:: The cartoon character Droopy Dog has the exact same speaking voice as Truman Capote
Very well done. I remember all the events in the 70s.More about Jackie O because she was in all the gossip rags I liked to read as a kid.You’ve got a good voice for documentaries.
In Gerald Clarke's biography of Capote it's told that the author betrayed Jackie Kennedy too. When she lost her baby Truman reportedly sent her a crystal rose and a beautifully written message she cherished and thanked him profusely and whole heartedly. But years later he boasted in an interview that he was so close to Jackie that she allowed him to stay in the room while she changed, and she never spoke to him or took his calls or letters ever again. He also betrayed Marlon Brando who in an interview confided in him his troubled relationship with his alcoholic mother and asked Truman not to publish that part of his story but he did. And let's not forget his betrayal of those two men in death row. I fell in love with his work in highschool, I've read all he wrote. Luckily I'm able to separate the art from the artist, being an author myself. Yeah, we write about what we know and what happens around us, but we generate the material and process it so it's all our own, not part of other people's private lives. We don't take the secret pain of others and just wipe the floor with it.
I've been watching your channel for about 2 or so years. The truth is that I have no idea how I found it. I'm glad I did. I often wish you could deep dive into your subjects more but I also realize that this is a passion project and you're not making money for your time. All of this is to say that if you were to do something about the other swans, I would love it. In fact I find your cadence comforting. I love history from Babylon till now. You are a great story teller. Thank you for sharing your abilities with us out here in the Ether. ❤
This is the first video the algorithm thankfully sent my way, as I’m looking forward to the FX show. I’ve subscribed immediately. Such a talented girl 🦋
Well done. More detail, and many more archival photographs, than in any of the other video's inspired by the Feud series. You found photographs of Babe Paley which I've never seen before, and yes, she is the most fascinating one to me.
@@claudiacoy3294Gossip hurts people by design. It’s always uncharitable and always wrong. If no one gossiped, the world would instantly become a million times better than it is now.
Gosh what an outstanding and fascinating video, thank you so much!!! I can't help but think of a lesson that Oprah often repeats that she learned from Maya Angelou ... when someone tells you who they are, believe them!!
He came across (in my opinion) as a little Viper, then those he bit, would wonder why? Really enjoyed this video, thank you for your hard work in making it. 👌👏👏👏💜
What a wonderful documentary! Very insightful and well researched especially the photographs. It takes entire companies to produce something of this quality. Your talent and hard work are apparent!
Absolutely wonderful. Thank you! I am 77 and also did my debuts in Palm Beach and Miami...2 as my mother wanted to present me in the two places we had lived!!! Overdone but great fun. I did live in New York in the 60's and 70's and had the time of my life so l have so enjoyed your channel...great report, great voice and great factual information Will subscribe. All the best.
Thank you so much! I always love to hear the stories of people who can remember the swans! I would love to have had a debut, it sounds like great fun and living in New York in 60s and 70s must have been a dream!
Very well done! Another interesting connection is Vidal’s mother, Nina, was married to Hugh Auchincloss at one point, making Gore the step brother once removed to Jackie and Lee.
This was an amazing documentary!! The pictures you picked match so beautifully with how you narrated. Please, do make another episode covering the other Swans! ♥
‘She had an enchanting life, and what wasn’t enchanting she kept to herself’ I honestly wish ppl went back to THAT (unless they’re a criminal). I know entirely tooooooo much about famous people’s intimate lives.
Thank you for putting together such a thorough and informative documentary on the women of “Feud: Capote VS. The Swans.” The photos and backstories are helping shed a light on all of these fascinating relationships. Please consider making another documentary.
The sad fact is, these powerful, connected, stylish women were extremely self centered. So self centered, it would never occur to them that Truman or anyone within their coveted group would expose their precious secrets.
Lonely actually. They were in peak loneliness and so was Capote, they loathed eachother and I assume themselves. People who are angry with themselves are usually haters and it's not as if they all were loving without Capote. Far from it. A sad and cautionary tale.
Well done little documentary! As a teenager in the mid-1960's, then a freshman in 1969, I read all the gossip columns in every newspaper every day. I watched Capote, Vidal, Mailer, etc. on every talk show -- & Capote appeared on all of them. I watched Buckley's show, read about Gore Vidal's feuds with Capote & Norman Mailer, proving consistently & obviousy that the pen really is mightier than the sword. The erudition & verbal gymnastics of the "intelligentsia" made for endlessly entertaining headlines as they pilloried each other in public & made nasty, snide, acerbic comments in private that were "leaked by sources" about those they knew & didn't really know. It was a free-for-all! What a great literary slugfest it was! I couldn't get enough! I ate it all up! It made me read these writers' works who seemed to live in the best of times in the boom years of post-War America -- a unique political, historic & socio-economic era unparalleled in American history. The 20th Century surely was the American Century -- and for better or for worse -- these writers, socialites, politicians, civic leaders, movers & shakers had a large hand in shaping America's culture, the visual & performing arts & literature, politics, publishing/journalism/investigative reporting; the civil rights movement; women's rights; climate change/the environment; the ascending power of unionization & appropriate legislation; rock 'n roll/Woodstock/hippie movement; the Vietnam War/anti-war protests/marches; Stonewall & homosexuality coming out of the closet -- and the nuclear test ban treaty with the Russians -- all against the backdrop of the Cold War. What a great time it was to be alive!!!! I'm a boomer who was lucky to have lived through the last 50 years of the 20th Century because it was unique, extraordinary & people became famous for "actually doing something interesting, special, important or by bringing the public's attention to a matter or issue of importance to everyone." LUCKY ME!! REALLY LUCKY ME!!!!
Pearl, I saw so much of my life if your comment. And what a thoughtful and well written commentary is was on our time. Yes, we are very lucky. I too heard them all, read them all and it gave me a lust for reading and learning. Cheers!
@@kathybutterfield2760 Thank you Kathy for the compliment. They really were the best of times and the worst of times. I feel very nostalgic about being an eye witness to history in the making -- living under so many presidential administrations & tragic assassinations when people courteously agreed to disagree. In spite of everything -- boomers are the luckiest generation in national & international history while John Glenn went into space and Sandra Day O'Connor took her rightful seat on the Supreme Court while many of us were groovin' during the British music Invasion, dancing @ the disco and -- in quieter moments -- realizing. . . "That the answer my friend is blowin' in the wind."
As someone who loves literature, I find it sad that Capote wasted his talents on the rich & his addictions. He should have spent more time with Harper Lee; the American canon would be better for it. These women were very isolated from what was really going on in America.
Yes but look at him, he's rather odd looking and being gay before it was acceptable, never fit in. I assume he would have been bullied as a child; he certainly had issues from his immediate family. So belonging was something important to him but he had a self-destruct compulsion. This is from a deep self-loathing. IMO
He was a very talented writer and especially talented with his transitions. Breakfast at Tiffany's was so entertaining and wisely the movie kept many of the wonderful lines from the original novella.
Jack Dunphy would agree; he said wherever he & Truman were living while writing (in Europe or wherever ) his rich friends would yacht there & distract him from getting good work done. During his In cold blood times, I wonder if it made Truman jaded? He spiraled after Perry’s death, The constant discrepancy between Kansas / NewYork, the Swans’ worries vs the Clutter’s murder & Perry & Dick. The vapid foolish lives vs working class life. Him saying “theyre too dumb” to known who Answered Prayers was referring too, makes me feel he thought they were foolish
Truman Capote is the truest definition of “professional sycophant”. Having access to all that salacious private gossip, he used every tidbit to further his writing career. He was both malicious and brilliant at the same time. After all, he achieved wealth and accolades just being the consummate snoop and tell. The swans had only themselves to blame for opening themselves up to this “author”. So self absorbed in their pretensions of perfection and status, they lacked the ability to consider others. Beauty fades, a portrait lasts forever.
@@Scorchy666well he did also write the novel Breakfast at Tiffany’s so I’m gonna say his career could be based on that alone. The man was talented. Sadly he was a miserable and bitter person who was hell bent on destruction & he got what he asked for
One of the highpoints of my life was when I was 20 and was walking past the Russian Tea Room and Gore Vidal walked past me in the other direction. I loved his writing and brilliant arguments with William F Buckley. I turned back to look at him to find that he had turned back to look at me! We both smiled and went on our ways. I should have gone up to speak to him! My life could have changed forever!! Ah well...😂😂😂❤❤❤ Vidal was related to Jackie by the way on her mother's side. That probably pissed Capote off too!
Well at least one person killed herself over his writings so I would say she suffered the most. It doesn’t matter if she was guilty of the crime or not-he wasn’t a detective on the case so he couldn’t know for sure. He was relating gossip after all that actually killed another person. Something to think about next time you are tempted to gossip about someone.
This was great. Watching the Feud anthology and this is an excellent companion piece. I was born in the 50s and one of my earliest memories was all the copies of Harpers, Vogue, and other fashion mags strewn about the house along with Life and Look magazines. We were not rich by any means, but my mother was obsessed with fashion and style. I wish she were still with us because she would have loved these videos!
I've seen several YT videos lately about "The Swans" (didn't even know about the show) and find yours to be the best of the lot. Your wonderful voice is so easy to listen to. And yes, do make a follow up - can't get enough of those swans!
Loved this. Thank you for telling these women’s stories. I tried to get through the Swans series but I couldn’t finish it. It was a beautiful production and the acting was fantastic but the storytelling was so slow! Too many scenes of the women putting on makeup slowly in the mirror. Their lives were so eventful
I know it's insane, most everyday people, if they had all the money in the world many, would use that benefit to spend more time with their children and families. No true fulfillment in their lives just vanity of vanities.
A lot of those ladies sent their kids to boarding school. That was seen as being uper crust affluent. When you spend that much time away from your mother you're not going to be that close. I had a wealthy friend who's closer to her nanny than her parents. They spent their time on trips and running their company. Didn't have time for her. 😢
Wow! Thank you for this. I’m trying to like “The Swans” mini series, but couldn’t really connect to the characters because I didn’t know anything about them. Without a back story the show falls flat. Great video, thanks again. ❤️
Lee purchased some items in the Paris store of a design label I worked for and was upset at not getting a discount because the sales staff had no idea who she was ! When it was sorted out she asked for all her purchases to be sent to NY and when asked to pay for this she got angry again. She ended up sending us her driver who picked everything up for her. People like this tend to forget that outside their circle, no one actually knows who they are and as no one reads these days, they probably never will ! I do remember a funny story that Jackie told when at a party and she felt the elastic on her underwear snap. She walked to a corner and wiggled her body so the 'item' would fall to her feet and dropping her bag she scooped up both and voila !!
I lived there for many years in St Germain, loved it but worked in couture long hours and often week ends for the collections so I mostly got to see Paris at night walking the dogs around the antique shop windows. I lived opposite the Café de Flore, a nice area but expensive of course. I shopped often at the Bon Marché which has changed a lot and is now ultra expensive. If you have time go to Clingancourt market and lunch there after shopping but careful of purses ! Rue du Mail is a good street for Designer fabrics, lots of ideas. Around the BHV there are many vintage clothes shops full of interesting people and it's on the Marais which is a nice area to walk around. Have a nice time. I am retired now in the south of France, I sometimes go stay in Paris but I don't miss it. xo@@carolannemckenzie3849
@@bludiva27Only 59 yrs. old at the time of his death from alcoholism/poly drug abuse and phlebitis. I guess since I’m much older 59 now looks like a mere child! ;-)
Excellent narrative. If you had lived back in the days before TV, I could see you having a syndicated column appearing in every major newspaper across the country.
This was great, always interesting to see the actual people and the actual history involved. You did an excellent job in assembling this documentary. I want to see more of the Swans and Gore Vidal's feud with Capote.
Thank you so much for your hard work on this very informative video (I’d call it a documentary) I wish it had have been longer as I really loved listening to your wonderful knowledge and beautiful relaxing voice 🦋
@@indiascarlett omg! I’m very excited knowing this! I’ve shared this video to my mother and some friends ahead of the FX show and they loved it. You’re truly talented thank you for being you! Really enjoying your other videos too. Youre extreamly talented and your voice is soo soothing. Sending love from Derry Northern Ireland 💗🦋
Thank you for your Exquisitely detailed presentation about these Amazing people. It's heartbreaking to see how miserable some rich people have been. It makes you realize how blessed that you are to live a more simple life.
I just discovered your channel but I am truly looking forward to exploring your other videos. I think I can only handle one or two at any given stretch of time because they are so complex and so loaded with information that I find them a little overwhelming. Especially since so many of the details that you pieced into this one are things that most people don't normally hear about or know about.
Why did they think he WOULDN'T share their secrets? He gossipped about everyone he met... I don't agree with what he did. He betrayed them as a perceived friend, but who's shocked? 🤷🏾♀️
Growing up, I was always uncomfortable with Capote in interviews, his writings, whenever he was in the public eye.. I could never explain my aversion to him. Then years ago, I discovered a film, written by him, *A CHRISTMAS MEMORY* .. I was enchanted, & my Heart touched. There are 3 versions of the movie, the original is narrated by him, but all 3 are BeautiFULL. Highly recommend watching all 3. I have compassion for him now. ✨️💖✨️
That was FABULOUS! Please tell us more about the swans. How could he have betrayed the women who supported him in such a public, and humiliating way, without ever considering their feelings? To share gossip in a social circle is one thing, but to use the private struggles of friends for salacious content so publicly is quite viscous.
I would love to see another video on more of the swans. I really enjoyed this video and how informative it was about the lives of these women. Thank you so very much. I have subscribed and I hope others will subscribe as well. Excellent work.
I found this to be totally enthralling. Each of the women deserve their own episode of a series, are far more interesting than I believe will be portrayed in the coming series. The times they lived in, their own social backgrounds, are far beyond the imagination. Memorable names, they all lived in a high echelon, and what lives they led. Please indulge us with any further documentary information. I loved it.
@@elizabethhopkins7582 Back in the 1980s, my best friends mom - was GLUED to the couch during the "Two Mrs. Grenvilles". She talked about it for weeks before it came on TV. LOL. Me and my friend were like "Who cares ?" .....
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Who is your favourite swan?
It's Babe Paley for me.
So far Slim Keith ❤
Because my husband worked at NBC News, we once had lunch in NY with Anthony Radziwill & our media friends. I sat next to him & was dazzled by his good looks & his humility. It got me interested in learning about his mother’s amazing life & style so I read about her & saw her interviews.
@@cindymaceda2999 wow, that's so interesting!
CZ Guest actually gets my vote.
Be aware. If someone gossips with you, they will gossip about you.
Not really. People often do have actual friends.
So true.
@@JoaninFloridayeah but ppl do this to their friends………some ppl just talk too much
Facts❗️
Truth ❤
I hate the comments saying it’s the ladies fault for telling a writer their secrets.
No! He was their friend. People don’t value friendships it’s really sad. If he was such a genius he could’ve made better stories. He was a brilliant writer but also a terrible friend
It's crazy how many artists made their fame and money exploiting other people. Any documentary I seen on Andy Warhol paints him as a real asshole. I don't care how many times they say the word genius. The weird part is, I don't think his art is great at all, I always assumed he got famous because of his personality. But, all you have to do is meet a couple of art students and you'll realize that in those circles, no one has any real talent. it's just a bunch of pretentious jerks with money to spend and status to buy.
They enjoyed him because he was a gossip.
If you are a writer everything and everyone in your life is fair game.
That's only one way to think about it. Outside of being a writer, he was a known notorious gossip. I don't want to say they were at fault but, I can say that they shouldn’t be surprised.
One of the biggest lessons you'll ever learn in life is to choose your company wisely. This is one heck of a way to learn 'Life 101.' Gossips are doing to you, what they are doing to others. It's not about you, it's a compulsion with people like that. Therefore, your friendship isn't solidifying your safety in that union. That’s a good reason why Truman didn’t understand why they froze him out of their lives.
Keep your 'self' away from gossips.
Exactly!
I grew up with these ladies (I’m in the Antiquities section of old ladies) and it was cutthroat competition between them. Their first mistake was treating Truman as a lap dog, a funny little court jester. None of them took Truman too seriously and milked him on his (and their) favorite topic: Gossip.
IMO the first poster nailed this phenomenon. These women were the definition of “frienimies.”People can be very talented but that doesn’t make them any more discreet. It also speaks to *how lonely they truly were* which-Truman exploited to the max.
They had all the trappings of wealth but paid in many other ways for the privilege. I wouldn’t assume they particularly enjoyed it: integrating into Society, securing advantageous marriages *was* their “job.” Please remember the time period in which these women lived-within the very strict confines of a woman’s “acceptable” options.
Thank you for a great documentary. It’s very insightful and equally as well presented.
Hurt people hurt other people. Although talented, Capote was still broken and unhealed from childhood. Monetary success has always been seen as the answer and band-aid to unhealed wounds. They don't. This was well done.
Still not ok.
The loneliness of the wealthy was well-captured.
Not all hurt people hurt people. It's not a valid excuse for horrid behavior.
Hurt people hurt people is so true. But still not ok.
He undid himself after In Cold Blood.
A wealthy friend of mine once cautioned, "Money always comes with strings."
Salvador Dali said the rich need bigge4 crutches
I’ve been a hairdresser and makeup artist and been around women ( all kinds) 30 something years and they do talk smack a lot about each other a lot. When they confide in you and tell you deeply personal things ( I would rather not know) you do have to discipline yourself not to say anything. If you can’t say something nice about a person don’t say anything. You wouldn’t want someone to put your s- - t out there especially if they are a celebrity Truman Had to know this .
The clever swans like Lee Radzwill and CZ Guest didn’t confide their secrets to Truman and so they were saved from him revealing them in his book. They both remained his friends for that reason. Moral of the story don’t tell your secrets to a writer
Lee got it both barrels from Truman
Lee did not remain friends with Capote
@@shadrach6299she did following the article. She only stopped talking to him towards the end due to an incident with Gore Vidal
@@BlowinFreehave you read the article? Her and her sister come out of it fine
@@nutauf7587 I don’t need to read the article to know that
Although glamorous, this life sounds like hell. Zero real friends, sketchy husbands, and your main occupation is giving/receiving to a bunch of people that you don't really care about.
100%
I would imagine that even the luxury becomes tedious eventually.
For sure. Keeping up appearances constantly outwardly. Money and influence doesn't bring happiness, just a whole other set of rules and problems.
To be sure✨
Men at that level have big egos, therefore big sex drives and always feel completely intitled. Because they are! White men rule the world to this day. So that was the price the women paid for great wealth, husband's cheating.
They had wealth, status, and beauty, but didn't end up with happy lives. Such a facade.
The full quote "There are more tears shed over answered prayers than unanswered ones" is astonishingly applicable to both Capote and the Swans. Excellent documentary. Glamourous facades hiding so much pain...and bad behavior. Thank you...
Depends on the prayers
It’s s dumb quote. Meaningless.
@@amysill3815 Yes. It’s just a remake of “Be careful what you wish for.”
Capote always talked about his mother’s (horrific) abuse of him and her violent alcoholism - yet like so many he repeated the same exact patterns. This story resulted in the swans never speaking to him again (at best) to one of the swans unaliving herself - Capote had sadistically lashed out at women who honestly loved him and accepted him despite his “eccentricities”
Oh Truman indeed meant to wound these women. But he was entirely too delusional to admit the ruin he brought upon himself.
I'm pretty sure his drinking and partying was so unmanageable that he just assumed he could write whatever he wanted. It was grandiose thinking to believe no one would get hurt and abandon him.
So true!!!!!!
No he meant to wound Bill Paley not Babe
Yes, please do a second episode on more swans! I'm really interested in the battle between Vidal and Capote, too.
Same here especially regarding Capote and Vidal.
I'd watch that
Who's Vidal now y'all going have me back dwn another rabbit whole 🐰😂
@@shawandajenkins7127 Gore Vidal, famous for hair, in the late 70s came out with Vidal Sassoon hair products. Literally the shortest description ever. 🤣
Google for better information. 😊
@@shawandajenkins7127Gore Vidal was another gay writer. Related to Al Gore, he like Truman was a southern boy. His mother married Hugh Auchincloss, Jr. & had two kids together. Jackie O’s mom was his next wife & they also had two children.
This was a walk down memory lane for me. I was born in 1950, and was an avid reader of everything in print and viewer of everything on the three TV channels we had back then. I remember all the swans except for Woodward. I used to fantasize about their lives. I read Truman, Steinbeck, Hemingway, all the men whose lives crossed paths with the swans and their husbands. A fabulous time; America at its zenith. New sub on Maui 🌸🤙🏼 Yes, please do more!
Wow, that sounds like a great time, I have always wanted to experience America in the 60s and 70s. Glad you liked the video!
America at its zenith except for its rampant racism during that time & lack of civil rights.
hearing/seeing his black/white wedding in the press.....fab days.
I was born in '60 and same with all you said. I was pretty well read at 10 and lapped up literature, art and fashion. I started telling my son about Capote, his life and books and not only did he seem bored but he wasn't interested. I feel sorry for our youth because they're limited with human contact and plugged into computers. I think because of this their imagination is lost along with any interests of The Arts. It's very disappointing because I'm an Artist and made an effort to take my children to cultural events in NYC until they were 18. I can still hope!
Zenith? Ouch. Facile. Money mad. Terrible parenting. A brittle facade of perfection hiding nastiness, pettiness and hatred.
I see capote as a really gossipy hairdresser who I’d never tell a single personal thing to, such a little snake 🐍
Have you read any of his work?
His voice alone is a red flag
I agree! From what I know of him he was a bit of a douche
@@nancyprawdzik8348 I haven’t personally as back when I was a 5 book a week gal (before smartphones and all the sidetracking things they have kidnapped my mind) my main reading went from horror, crime to teaching manuals ect. From what I’ve picked up about his work he was talented 🦋
I agree with seeing Capotei as a gossipy hairdresser- I not to mention pretentious--FUN FACT:: The cartoon character Droopy Dog has the exact same speaking voice as Truman Capote
Very well done. I remember all the events in the 70s.More about Jackie O because she was in all the gossip rags I liked to read as a kid.You’ve got a good voice for documentaries.
Thank you!
In Gerald Clarke's biography of Capote it's told that the author betrayed Jackie Kennedy too. When she lost her baby Truman reportedly sent her a crystal rose and a beautifully written message she cherished and thanked him profusely and whole heartedly. But years later he boasted in an interview that he was so close to Jackie that she allowed him to stay in the room while she changed, and she never spoke to him or took his calls or letters ever again. He also betrayed Marlon Brando who in an interview confided in him his troubled relationship with his alcoholic mother and asked Truman not to publish that part of his story but he did. And let's not forget his betrayal of those two men in death row. I fell in love with his work in highschool, I've read all he wrote. Luckily I'm able to separate the art from the artist, being an author myself. Yeah, we write about what we know and what happens around us, but we generate the material and process it so it's all our own, not part of other people's private lives. We don't take the secret pain of others and just wipe the floor with it.
Betrayal of those Those two men in prison? Hickcock & Smith, were cold blooded killers.
I've been watching your channel for about 2 or so years. The truth is that I have no idea how I found it. I'm glad I did. I often wish you could deep dive into your subjects more but I also realize that this is a passion project and you're not making money for your time.
All of this is to say that if you were to do something about the other swans, I would love it.
In fact I find your cadence comforting. I love history from Babylon till now. You are a great story teller. Thank you for sharing your abilities with us out here in the Ether. ❤
Thank you so much! I will be doing more long videos in the future!
@@indiascarlett you're so welcome 😊
That was so well written
@@saam3712 thank you.
This is the first video the algorithm thankfully sent my way, as I’m looking forward to the FX show. I’ve subscribed immediately. Such a talented girl 🦋
Well done. More detail, and many more archival photographs, than in any of the other video's inspired by the Feud series. You found photographs of Babe Paley which I've never seen before, and yes, she is the most fascinating one to me.
I wish no one a "friend" like Truman Capote. The guy was poison
Gossipy 'friends' are the worst
@@indiascarlett you can be gossipy, but not be so backstabbing, that is a whole different type of ugly.
@indiascarlett agree 💯 going through it now.
@@claudiacoy3294Gossip hurts people by design. It’s always uncharitable and always wrong. If no one gossiped, the world would instantly become a million times better than it is now.
Gosh what an outstanding and fascinating video, thank you so much!!! I can't help but think of a lesson that Oprah often repeats that she learned from Maya Angelou ... when someone tells you who they are, believe them!!
Well executed. Good pacing. Interisting facts. Superb.
He came across (in my opinion) as a little Viper, then those he bit, would wonder why? Really enjoyed this video, thank you for your hard work in making it. 👌👏👏👏💜
At bottom Capote was an insecure little queen, which time eventually revealed.
It took me 2 hours to fact check this. This is very factual and very well done. I'm looking forward to your next venture!
What a wonderful documentary! Very insightful and well researched especially the photographs. It takes entire companies to produce something of this quality. Your talent and hard work are apparent!
Thank you so much! It's lovely comments like these that make it all worth it ❤
Yes, definitely well-researched, amazing photos I’ve never seen though I’ve read biographies & have seen documentaries about the Swans.
These Cushing sisters were not pretty. Christ!😩
@@beverlyledbetter4906 Toothsome....
@@c.a.savage5689😬😬😬
Absolutely wonderful. Thank you! I am 77 and also did my debuts in Palm Beach and Miami...2 as my mother wanted to present me in the two places we had lived!!! Overdone but great fun. I did live in New York in the 60's and 70's and had the time of my life so l have so enjoyed your channel...great report, great voice and great factual information
Will subscribe. All the best.
Thank you so much! I always love to hear the stories of people who can remember the swans! I would love to have had a debut, it sounds like great fun and living in New York in 60s and 70s must have been a dream!
Yes, I would like a video on the other swans. This was very well done and very entertaining like a book itself.
Very well done! Another interesting connection is Vidal’s mother, Nina, was married to Hugh Auchincloss at one point, making Gore the step brother once removed to Jackie and Lee.
Thank you for this video. I would love another video covering the other socialites not included in this video.
Anything you make will be greatly appreciated- you have a great talent.
Thank you!
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
Telling the stories of yesteryear, with the voice and inflection of the guilded era. Bravo!
Wait...there were more "Swans", oh I gotta have more please, this was #Delicious ❤
What a despicable human being he was! I love the narration and can't wait to watch it.
Capote was a genius. Brilliant short stories.
@@RadioWhoPoo Absolutely. I don't imagine that most people here have ever read him
Love your documentary following actual facts.
Please do another on the swans that are not shown on this one.
You are really good!!!!!!!!
I' couldn' haave said it better. Please write about more swans.
That Time cover of C. Z. Guest is bad as hell, good for her! ✨️. Great job on this video, so well done 👏🏾 😉
Great storytelling. I was fully enthralled.
Wow. The Cushing sisters make me appreciative of lowered beauty standards when one is wealthy.
Ironically, Babe's reconstruction helped.
Uber thin, hairdos, dressed expensively, looking like Jackie O. and her sister??
@@paulmccarthy7461 Yes, she was very photogenic.
This was an amazing documentary!! The pictures you picked match so beautifully with how you narrated. Please, do make another episode covering the other Swans! ♥
Thank you! Will do!
‘She had an enchanting life, and what wasn’t enchanting she kept to herself’ I honestly wish ppl went back to THAT (unless they’re a criminal). I know entirely tooooooo much about famous people’s intimate lives.
So true haha
Thank you! I thoroughly enjoyed watching your videos and learned so much. I would really appreciate learning about the other 'Swans'.
Thank you for putting together such a thorough and informative documentary on the women of “Feud: Capote VS. The Swans.” The photos and backstories are helping shed a light on all of these fascinating relationships. Please consider making another documentary.
The sad fact is, these powerful, connected, stylish women were extremely self centered. So self centered, it would never occur to them that Truman or anyone within their coveted group would expose their precious secrets.
He betrayed them. They thought he was a friend. It wasn’t their fault he had no morals or integrity.
@@amysill3815 true. But they did choose to trust a man who was a horrible gossip. It never occurred to them, he’d tell their secrets too.
Lonely actually. They were in peak loneliness and so was Capote, they loathed eachother and I assume themselves. People who are angry with themselves are usually haters and it's not as if they all were loving without Capote. Far from it. A sad and cautionary tale.
Andy Warhol followed suit with his diaries which outed celebrities.
@@eagleeye2300 I had absolutely no clue. Now that being said, I’m a fan of the late Dominick Dunne. And this was his social circle also.
Well done little documentary! As a teenager in the mid-1960's, then a
freshman in 1969, I read all the gossip columns in every newspaper every day. I watched Capote, Vidal, Mailer, etc. on every talk show -- & Capote appeared on all of them. I watched Buckley's show, read about Gore Vidal's feuds with Capote & Norman Mailer, proving consistently & obviousy that the pen really is mightier than the sword. The erudition & verbal gymnastics of the "intelligentsia" made for endlessly entertaining headlines as they pilloried each other in public & made nasty, snide, acerbic comments in private that were "leaked by sources" about those they knew & didn't really know. It was a free-for-all! What a great literary slugfest it was! I couldn't get enough! I ate it all up! It made me read these writers' works who seemed to live in the best of times in the boom years of post-War America -- a unique political, historic & socio-economic era unparalleled in American history. The 20th Century surely was the American Century -- and for better or for worse -- these writers, socialites, politicians, civic leaders, movers & shakers had a large hand in shaping America's culture, the visual & performing arts & literature, politics, publishing/journalism/investigative reporting; the civil rights movement; women's rights; climate change/the environment; the ascending power of unionization & appropriate legislation; rock 'n roll/Woodstock/hippie movement; the Vietnam War/anti-war protests/marches; Stonewall & homosexuality coming out of the closet -- and the nuclear test ban treaty with the Russians -- all against the backdrop of the Cold War. What a great time it was to be alive!!!! I'm a boomer who was lucky to have lived through the last 50 years of the 20th Century because it was unique, extraordinary & people became famous for "actually doing something interesting, special, important or by bringing the public's attention to a matter or issue of importance to everyone." LUCKY ME!! REALLY LUCKY ME!!!!
Pearl, I saw so much of my life if your comment. And what a thoughtful and well written commentary is was on our time. Yes, we are very lucky. I too heard them all, read them all and it gave me a lust for reading and learning. Cheers!
@@kathybutterfield2760 Thank you Kathy for the compliment. They really were the best of times and the worst of times. I feel very nostalgic about being an eye witness to history in the making -- living under so many presidential administrations & tragic assassinations when people courteously agreed to disagree. In spite of everything -- boomers are the luckiest generation in national & international history while John Glenn went into space and Sandra Day O'Connor took her rightful seat on the Supreme Court while many of us were groovin' during the British music Invasion, dancing @ the disco and -- in quieter moments -- realizing. . . "That the answer my friend is blowin' in the wind."
Great short bios of the Swans! Now I'm ready to watch the series.
As someone who loves literature, I find it sad that Capote wasted his talents on the rich & his addictions. He should have spent more time with Harper Lee; the American canon would be better for it. These women were very isolated from what was really going on in America.
Indeed!
Yes but look at him, he's rather odd looking and being gay before it was acceptable, never fit in. I assume he would have been bullied as a child; he certainly had issues from his immediate family. So belonging was something important to him but he had a self-destruct compulsion. This is from a deep self-loathing. IMO
He was a very talented writer and especially talented with his transitions. Breakfast at Tiffany's was so entertaining and wisely the movie kept many of the wonderful lines from the original novella.
Jack Dunphy would agree; he said wherever he & Truman were living while writing (in Europe or wherever ) his rich friends would yacht there & distract him from getting good work done. During his In cold blood times, I wonder if it made Truman jaded? He spiraled after Perry’s death, The constant discrepancy between Kansas / NewYork, the Swans’ worries vs the Clutter’s murder & Perry & Dick. The vapid foolish lives vs working class life. Him saying “theyre too dumb” to known who Answered Prayers was referring too, makes me feel he thought they were foolish
@@VanessaV1111 Most of them were pretty vapid.
Truman Capote is the truest definition of “professional sycophant”. Having access to all that salacious private gossip, he used every tidbit to further his writing career. He was both malicious and brilliant at the same time. After all, he achieved wealth and accolades just being the consummate snoop and tell. The swans had only themselves to blame for opening themselves up to this “author”. So self absorbed in their pretensions of perfection and status, they lacked the ability to consider others. Beauty fades, a portrait lasts forever.
Nowadays, we just call it narcissistic personality disorder
You can't judge his entire career based solely on In Cold Blood and one chapter of Answered Prayers.
Professional sycophant! I love it!
@@Scorchy666well he did also write the novel Breakfast at Tiffany’s so I’m gonna say his career could be based on that alone. The man was talented. Sadly he was a miserable and bitter person who was hell bent on destruction & he got what he asked for
The video was very revealing
Thank you so much for this ! The show starts tonight ❤❤❤❤
This was fascinating!!! I was riveted. Yes, please tell us about the other swans!
Beautifully done. Yes please do another episode about the other Swans. So fascinating and glamorous! Thank you!!
Excellent video, very professionally done!
Thank you very much!
This is amazing. I will enjoy the rest of Feud much more with this background. Please do another about the other “swans.” Liked and subscribed!
One of the highpoints of my life was when I was 20 and was walking past the Russian Tea Room and Gore Vidal walked past me in the other direction. I loved his writing and brilliant arguments with William F Buckley. I turned back to look at him to find that he had turned back to look at me! We both smiled and went on our ways. I should have gone up to speak to him! My life could have changed forever!! Ah well...😂😂😂❤❤❤ Vidal was related to Jackie by the way on her mother's side. That probably pissed Capote off too!
Wow! That's such a cool story!
Gore's Mother was Jacqueline's step-father's first wife. So not really related though they knew one another.
I was there from '85 to '87. When did you see him Mary?
Fascinating story. I would very much like the next chapter you mentioned. Thanks for sharing.
Poor Truman, like Icarus he flew too close to the sun and in the end he hurt himself more than everyone.
It's a shame he got caught up in the superficial lives of the rich, he had a lot of talent. In cold blood is superb
Well at least one person killed herself over his writings so I would say she suffered the most. It doesn’t matter if she was guilty of the crime or not-he wasn’t a detective on the case so he couldn’t know for sure. He was relating gossip after all that actually killed another person. Something to think about next time you are tempted to gossip about someone.
@@amysill3815TC completely and pointedly PUBLICLY SHAMED THESE WOMEN and their family's.
This was so well done. Glad I found your channel.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I'm obsessed with this video! Thanks for making it :)
Glad you liked it!!
This was great. Watching the Feud anthology and this is an excellent companion piece. I was born in the 50s and one of my earliest memories was all the copies of Harpers, Vogue, and other fashion mags strewn about the house along with Life and Look magazines. We were not rich by any means, but my mother was obsessed with fashion and style. I wish she were still with us because she would have loved these videos!
Stellar documentary!! I've watched numerous docs on this topic and yours is by far the best.
Wow, thank you!
I've seen several YT videos lately about "The Swans" (didn't even know about the show) and find yours to be the best of the lot. Your wonderful voice is so easy to listen to. And yes, do make a follow up - can't get enough of those swans!
Thank you! The next swan video will hopefully be out soon!
Excellent video! I remember be fascinating by the snippets of gossip in my mother's Spy magazine. Thank for the memories.
Spy was a GREAT magazine
Yes, please make a video on the other Swans. Especially Gloria Guinness. And thank you!
Loved this. Thank you for telling these women’s stories. I tried to get through the Swans series but I couldn’t finish it. It was a beautiful production and the acting was fantastic but the storytelling was so slow! Too many scenes of the women putting on makeup slowly in the mirror. Their lives were so eventful
This was a wonderful episode, look forward to more
Excellent work. Thanks dearly.
Yes, I would love to hear about the less popular Swans! I find it all so fascinating!
Think about it: Babe Paley was not close to her children, but well-dressed and a trend setter. Who would want that?
I know it's insane, most everyday people, if they had all the money in the world many, would use that benefit to spend more time with their children and families.
No true fulfillment in their lives just vanity of vanities.
Who? Meghan Ragland Markle
Almost everyone in Hollywood today. Some women have even ‘thanked’ their dead, aborted children for their worldly success. That’s Hollywood.
The very wealthy.
A lot of those ladies sent their kids to boarding school. That was seen as being uper crust affluent.
When you spend that much time away from your mother you're not going to be that close. I had a wealthy friend who's closer to her nanny than her parents.
They spent their time on trips and running their company. Didn't have time for her. 😢
Wow! Thank you for this. I’m trying to like “The Swans” mini series, but couldn’t really connect to the characters because I didn’t know anything about them. Without a back story the show falls flat. Great video, thanks again. ❤️
Lee purchased some items in the Paris store of a design label I worked for and was upset at not getting a discount because the sales staff had no idea who she was ! When it was sorted out she asked for all her purchases to be sent to NY and when asked to pay for this she got angry again. She ended up sending us her driver who picked everything up for her. People like this tend to forget that outside their circle, no one actually knows who they are and as no one reads these days, they probably never will ! I do remember a funny story that Jackie told when at a party and she felt the elastic on her underwear snap. She walked to a corner and wiggled her body so the 'item' would fall to her feet and dropping her bag she scooped up both and voila !!
Wow, what an interesting story!
I'm off to Paris on Friday. Can't wait to go shopping! 😁
Baloney! You are far, far more a liar than Truman Capote.
I lived there for many years in St Germain, loved it but worked in couture long hours and often week ends for the collections so I mostly got to see Paris at night walking the dogs around the antique shop windows. I lived opposite the Café de Flore, a nice area but expensive of course. I shopped often at the Bon Marché which has changed a lot and is now ultra expensive. If you have time go to Clingancourt market and lunch there after shopping but careful of purses ! Rue du Mail is a good street for Designer fabrics, lots of ideas. Around the BHV there are many vintage clothes shops full of interesting people and it's on the Marais which is a nice area to walk around. Have a nice time. I am retired now in the south of France, I sometimes go stay in Paris but I don't miss it. xo@@carolannemckenzie3849
Interesting from someone who has evidently no life except on the TH-cam comment section ! Good luck.@@normanduke8855
T got old, drug addicted, lost his self- worth and destroyed HIMSELF
More of an alcoholic, actually.
It is the nature of addiction to destroy the very being it feeds off of
Not very old at all.
@@bludiva27Only 59 yrs. old at the time of his death from alcoholism/poly drug abuse and phlebitis. I guess since I’m much older 59 now looks like a mere child! ;-)
right! only 59 when he died. @@bludiva27
Yes, I would love to see another video about the other swans!
Excellent narrative. If you had lived back in the days before TV, I could see you having a syndicated column appearing in every major newspaper across the country.
Thank you so much!
Yes. Please make more documentaries on the other swans and others.
Fascinating video! Kept me up on a week day and I am not mad about it!
Watching this was thoroughly enjoyable and highly informative! Thank you, Ms. Scarlett!
This was great, always interesting to see the actual people and the actual history involved. You did an excellent job in assembling this documentary. I want to see more of the Swans and Gore Vidal's feud with Capote.
Thank you! Part two on the other swans is up!
Thank you so much for your hard work on this very informative video (I’d call it a documentary) I wish it had have been longer as I really loved listening to your wonderful knowledge and beautiful relaxing voice 🦋
Thank you so much! Part two on the other Swans who aren't in Feud will be out soon, and it'll probably be quite long too!
@@indiascarlett omg! I’m very excited knowing this! I’ve shared this video to my mother and some friends ahead of the FX show and they loved it. You’re truly talented thank you for being you! Really enjoying your other videos too. Youre extreamly talented and your voice is soo soothing. Sending love from Derry Northern Ireland 💗🦋
Wow. Superb overview of the history behind these important women. A must-see accompaniment to the new FX series Feud Season 2: Capote vs the Swans.
Thank you for your Exquisitely detailed presentation about these Amazing people.
It's heartbreaking to see how miserable some rich people have been. It makes you realize how blessed that you are to live a more simple life.
This was really informative and well put together. Thanks!
I just discovered your channel but I am truly looking forward to exploring your other videos. I think I can only handle one or two at any given stretch of time because they are so complex and so loaded with information that I find them a little overwhelming. Especially since so many of the details that you pieced into this one are things that most people don't normally hear about or know about.
Thank you for this extensive research for those like me who are not familiar with Answered Prayers
Nice narration, and wonderful pics! 👍👍🎬🎬
Why did they think he WOULDN'T share their secrets? He gossipped about everyone he met... I don't agree with what he did. He betrayed them as a perceived friend, but who's shocked? 🤷🏾♀️
I’ve just accidentally found a channel and it’s very interesting! Nice voice and stories. And good for me as English learner from Russia. Thank you 👋
Спасибо вам большое! Я говорю немного по-русски и люблю русскую историю!
@@indiascarlett Ого! Здорово! Вы молодец!
I would love another video about the “other” swans!!! Thank you so much for this one! ❤
Your accent is absolutely lovely to hear! 💕👂
Thank you so much!
Growing up, I was always uncomfortable with Capote in interviews, his writings, whenever he was in the public eye.. I could never explain my aversion to him.
Then years ago, I discovered a film, written by him, *A CHRISTMAS MEMORY* .. I was enchanted, & my Heart touched. There are 3 versions of the movie, the original is narrated by him, but all 3 are BeautiFULL.
Highly recommend watching all 3.
I have compassion for him now. ✨️💖✨️
He was ALWAYS drunk and stoned and worse in those days.
That was FABULOUS! Please tell us more about the swans. How could he have betrayed the women who supported him in such a public, and humiliating way, without ever considering their feelings? To share gossip in a social circle is one thing, but to use the private struggles of friends for salacious content so publicly is quite viscous.
Such an excellent documentary. The best! Great research, excellent narration. New subscribed.
Thank you so much!
Excellently done!! Yes, more please.
I would love to see another video on more of the swans. I really enjoyed this video and how informative it was about the lives of these women. Thank you so very much. I have subscribed and I hope others will subscribe as well. Excellent work.
thank you enjoyed your video...going to watch part2 now...😀😀😀😁😁😁
So well put together. Thank you. So interesting. Yes, I would like to see a vlog about more of the swans. ✨🏆💫🇦🇺
That was fabulous. I really enjoyed that. Thank you 😍
I found this to be totally enthralling. Each of the women deserve their own episode of a series, are far more interesting than I believe will be portrayed in the coming series. The times they lived in, their own social backgrounds, are far beyond the imagination. Memorable names, they all lived in a high echelon, and what lives they led. Please indulge us with any further documentary information. I loved it.
Very interesting & informative....I would be interested in hearing more
He didn’t even try to disguise Ann Woodward….😮
Because he, like everyone else, believed that she murdered her husband.
Not me I didn't know and it was none of my business
Neither did Dominic Dunne in "The Two Mrs Grenvilles"
@@elizabethhopkins7582 Back in the 1980s, my best friends mom - was GLUED to the couch during the "Two Mrs. Grenvilles". She talked about it for weeks before it came on TV. LOL. Me and my friend were like "Who cares ?" .....
@@LannieLord And your point is?
Being a deb in Dallas is still very important. . . Your documentary is well done, especially the narration.
Thank you. This was very informative and straight forward. Great pictures as well.
Very grateful for your work on the history 😊 so informative and interesting!