As a Capaddocian Greek I congratulate you for your work and thank you! In my village (Cappadocian majority) very few people speak the language and it's up to a certain extent. I'm studying history at the university in hopes that I will be able to save what is already in danger. Çok sağol komşu, mutlu yaz!
There is another greek language in turkey called romeika or pontiaka, around 5k people speaks it, no written from and even though its similar to todays greek, its very different as well. Doso ise? How are you? Kala ime or kalushtiko ime Tibo felis mi? Do you want anything? Emistin eshubaumestin: we are going. And we cant count above 5😂 Ena liyo tiriya tesara penta goes on alti yedi sekiz in turkish. Both my parents Side knows it. I cant speak it anymore because i cant go to my village in Trabzon.
at 8:02 , both inscriptions read: "Sahib-ül hayrat / İçenlere afiyet / Yaptırana rahmet", which means "Owner of the fountain (wishes) / Bon appetit for those who drink / (and wishes) Mercy (from God) for the one who built (this fountain)" A long while ago I had taught myself how to read Ottoman Turkish and the Greek alphabet as a hobby. I'm quite happy that my useless skills came in handy at last! :D
There is also the Smyrneika dialect of Greek that was spoken in Smyrna / Izmir region up until 1922. This dialect is mainly characterised by some Greek features that are found in some islands and vocabulary influence from Turkish but also French, Italian and Venetian languages (the Levantines)
İmparatorluklar medeniyetin zenginlik temsilcileri güççük güççük cumburliyetler ise farklılıklara tahammülsüzlüğü ana temel almış kuklacıların yataklarıdır .Sahip olduğu cemiyetin % 55 i gayri müslim olan Devlet i Aliyyeyi kötülemek için binbir takla atan hokkabazları mu ölçü alalım yoksa % 45 Müslümanyla ben bütün farklılıkların garantisiyim diyen Osmanlı İslam Devletini mi ölçü alacağız .Topkapı Sarayı ana giriş kapısında; “Bu kapı bütün mazlumların sığınağıdır “ Ayet i Kerimesi sebepsiz yazılmamıştır .Rus İmparatorluğunun son Hanedanı ;Romanof’ların kökünü kazıyan anlayış kendilerini ispanyadaki Katolik Zulmünden kurtarıp Selaniğe İstanbul Edirne Bursa’ya taşıyan Osmanlı Türk Alicenaplığına olan vefa borcunu İmparatorluğu yıkıp 62 kukla devlet kurdurarak gösterdi .
I discovered your channel just today, but i have to say your channel is absolutely underrated and you'd deserve more. You explained these languages and their history on a professional and catchy level. Very good job! Greetings from your old enemy state, the Venetian republic 👊
Turks lived in different geographies, with various nations, and still live. They have been in various religions. Currently, there are Christians and Buddhists as well as Turks.Turks have some features that everyone appreciates. They do not interfere with anyone's language and religion.When a military conquers a city, he never touches children and old people. His women are not changed from men to other men. The soldier takes the woman and girl he likes as his wife.If Seljuks and Ottomans had intervened in religion and language, there would be no Serbian, Greek etc. today. The islands in the Aegean Sea remained with the Italians in 1913 and 1947. They taught Italian to everyone. Italian education was given in schools. The Turks stayed in Tunisia, Algeria for 400 years. No one speaks Turkish there. .But French is now known by everyone. In Algeria alone, France killed 1.5 million people.Avar, Pecheneg, Bulgarian, Cuman-Kipchak and Uz Turks came to Anatolia through the Balkans, Central Europe and the Caucasus from the 500s. The Avars besieged Istanbul in 618 and 626. At that time, all Anatolia was occupied by the Persians. A prayer was made. They called this prayer BELLIUM AVARICUM.If you pay attention to this prayer, Italian.Greek began to be spoken in Istanbul and Anatolia after the 8th century. It was the result of the fight with the Vatican. Anatolia, Syria vs Rome and later the Eastern Roman Empire.The historical artifacts here do not have the letter KSI of the Greek alphabet.The BELLIUM AVARICUM prayer is read as the 6th hymn every Easter. It was also read in churches all over Greece on the day Hagia Sophia was opened for worship.The Βulgars were the first Muslims to become Turks. But over time they became Slavs. After 1910, they persecuted the Muslim Turks a lot. For this reason, the Bulgar Mountain in Anatolia was named BOLKAR... For example, there was a Khazar Empire in history. No more today. However, these Khazar Turks belonged to the Jewish religion.Although they are very few, there are also KARAIM JEWISH TURKS in Istanbul, Latvia, Finland, etc.In the Ottoman lands, and therefore in Anatolia, there were Orthodox people who spoke Turkish - did not know Elenika and knew Greek - did not speak Turkish.An example of Izmir folk song for those who don't know Turkish but only Elenika.th-cam.com/video/PavzSnR5pVA/w-d-xo.html Karatasi_Karataş is the place where Onassis was born in 1900. If you want, I can write to you about his sister Maria/Makbule. On January 30, 1923 in Lausanne, Lloyd George, Lord Curzon insisted on the Venizalos project. Turkey reluctantly signed. The organization was made by Norwegian Nansen. Commissions were established. It was based on religion. They took the Orthodox from all of Turkey (except Istanbul).300,000 of the 1,500,000 people taken from Turkey were Orthodox Turks. They held rallies saying we are Christians, but we are Turks. They begged.They had fought with Byzantium together with the Muslim Oghuz Turks in 1071 and 1176. The emperor's daughter Anna Comnena said in her diary that "Christian Turks left the army and went over to the side of the Seljuks. We were defeated for her."There were Albanians, Macedonians, etc. among the 1,500,000 people.Greece persecuted these Orthodox Turks a lot. They are now assimilated. Among the 300,000 Orthodox Turks, there were also Gagauz and Çıtak Turks. They were also taken from Thrace th-cam.com/video/DCM58R41wXY/w-d-xo.html Manolis' parents were from Çıtak Turks who went from Çİftllikköy.Except for the Muslims in the East of the 1913 Bucharest Treaty, other Muslims were sent to Turkey.These were 479.000 people. Among them were Turkish Muslims and Sabbataists (they live in Thessaloniki, although they were Jewish, they were perceived as Turkish. The Greeks called them SAZANIKOS). There were Albanian, Macedonian, Gypsy, Vlach and 50,000 were of Hellenic origin.These Hellenic Muslims were settled by the sea in total in certain regions. Let me give an example, Celaliye.The word Cappadocia is Persian. Greece says Karamanli -Cappadocia, but these Orthodox Turks were everywhere. I don't know if I could explain it? But this is the right thing.I can also write documents for what I have written. It is scientifically accepted that they are Turkish. Prof Evagelia BALTA, who gives Turkish lessons in Ayvalık every year and is one of these Turks, abstained.Greece does not accept Turks in the Rhodopes.They calls them Muslim Greeks. Funny
@@yakupkeser248 the 1.5 million orthodoxs who migrated to greece, where mostly of greek origin. some of them yes, they where turks. the millions of greeks who lived in anatolia for the past few thousands years can not just dissapear. many greeks where assimilated to islam and to the turkish identity but many others stayed christian and greek. you can not claim 1.5 milion people to be turkish just because you like.
Short, concise and objective. I really appreciate your part on Cappadocian Greek. It is one of the many non mutually intelligible dialects of Greek that have been on the decline since the dissolution of the Ottoman, Austrian and Russian Empires. Another interesting one would be Pontic Greek, which has a lot more speakers today and is spoken in Northern Greece and the ex-Soviet states.
Kapadokya yunancası diye bir sey yok, onların dili Türkçe, alfabeleri yunan alfabesi. Tek kelime yunanca bilmezlerdi, Türkdürler ama dinleri hristiyanlıktır. Mezar taşları bile Türkçedir
Sedat hocam, o dediğin Karamanlı Türkçesi. Kapadokya Yunancası farklı. O eski Kapadokya bölgesinde yaşamış olan Rumların konuştuğu bir Yunanca şivesiydi. Mübadele sonrası kalmadı. Selamlar
@@papazataklaattiranimam dialect means that it is Greek and its speakers are Greeks. When something is a different language, its speakers aren't Greeks but foreigners. The main difference is sociological, not linguistic 👍
The last phrase in Ubykh makes me deeply sad. Language death is just as painful as losing a loved one. Thank you, mister Esenç for giving us a legacy as precious as the Ubykh language. We will try to preserve it's beauty for as long as we can.
Karamanlides Turkish isn’t really extinct. Lady’s Turkish was very easy to communicate. Interviewer asked in modern İstanbul Turkish and she responded in Karaman dialect. It is basically what Turks in modern Karaman and Konya speaks now. Turkish in Greek alphabet is lost however. Other than Karamanlı, all Turkic Christians under Byzantine rule had that back in the days. Still a Turk with a knowledge of Greek alphabet can easily read and understand Karamanlı Turkish.
@@turkmuhendis Efendim,Karamanlıca Türkçesi diye bir Türkçe olurmu? Bu konuda Üniversitelerimizin belgelere dayalı Yüksek Lisans ve Doktora tezleri var.Başta Prof Anzerlioğlu bu işe ömürünü vermiştir.YATTIM SAĞIMA DÖNDÜM SOLUMA diye Müslüman Türkler gibi dua eden Osmanlının Edrak- bi idrak dediği kişiler.Size uzun uzun da yazarım da vaktinizi almak istemiyorum.Tek kelime Yunanca bilmiyorlar.Yan köy de veya kasaba da ise Türkçe bilmeyen Yunanca bilenler var.Ama aslında Dr Georgios Nakracas'a göre bazı ege kıyıları hariç Anadolu da Helen yoktur .Öyle yazmış.Araplar İONYA diyememiş Yunan demiş Ama Anadolu dakiler ve Anadolu ya da RUM demiş.Yani Roma.RUM suresi var Kur'an da.Celâleddin-i Rumi,Bacıyan-ı Rum var.500 lü yıllarda Balkan ve Orta Avrupaya ,Kafkaslar üzerinden Anadolu ya gelen Avar,Bulgar (sonradan Slavlaşan ve zulümleri sebebi ile Bulgar dağının adı Bolkar yapıldı 1920 de)Peçenek,Kuman-Kıpçak (Türkiye de Macar köyleri var.Antalya da Gebiz. Ayrıca Çepniler.Macar devlet adamları Kıpçak Türküyüz diyor veTürk Birliği üyesidirler.) ve Uz lar geliyor.Ayrıca Bizans önce iran -Arap akınlarına karşı Ermenileri Van ve Kilikya ya arkalarına da Balkanlardan paralı asker olarak getirdiği Türkleri yerleştiriyor.Bunlara o sırada zaten Turkopol veya Turkofon diyorlar.Yerel kızlar ile evleniyorlar.Sonra Müslüman Oğuzlar geliyor.1056 da Pasinler deler ama püskürtülüyor,kesiliyor,Hristiyan oluyorlar.Biz Yunus Emre yi 1937 de bastırdık.Bunlar çok önceden Yunus Emre ve Dede Korkut'u bastırmışlar.Biz 1.500.000 kişiden 300.000 olan bu Ortodoks Türkleri vermek istemedik.Ama Llyod George,Lord Curzon Venizalos ısrar etti.Komisyonlar kuruldu.Norveçli Nansen din esası dedi. Bize gönderilen 479.000 için de Türk vardı ama Türkçe bilmeyen Müslümanlarda vardı..Bunun 50.000 i Helen di.Tek kelime deTürkçe bilmiyorlardı.Bursa Başköy ve Marmara kenarına yerleştirildiler.Nerede oldukları da bilinir.Celaliye bunlardan biri.Trakya dan Gagavuz ve Çıtak Türklerini de aldılar.Tutturmuşlar Karamanlı,Kapodakyalı.Helence konuşanların şarkılarını -Türkülerini söylemiyorlar.Bu Ortodoks Türkler diğer Müslümanlar ile beraber oturuyor ve aynı türküleri söylüyor.Çekik gözlü,yuvarlak yüzlü Helen-Yunan asıl olur? Helen yüzü bellidir.Müzelerde heykellere ,kiliselerde ikonlara baksınlar. İmam Baildi dan başla bütün yemekler ve türküler Bizans dan kalmışmış Yunanmış da Türkler baskı yapmış ,onlarda Türkçe öğrenmiş safsatası.Baskı olsaydı,Sırp,Yunan vs kalırmıydı? th-cam.com/video/3lmqAqaIFe8/w-d-xo.html
This is so false their is no evidence that turkic people in byzantine empire used greek alphabet, on the other hand their is evidence of armenians and jews speaking only turkish and using their respective alphabetic script in the same region that karamanlides greeks lived under ottoman rule.
@@dimitrisk.2443 There are tons of evidences of Turkish Christians using Greek and Latin scripts with respect to their regions. When you read a Turkish text in Greek alphabet, it means Turks use Greek scripts. Greeks under Ottoman rule wrote Turkish with Persian scripts like everyone else. They used Greek scripts for writing Greek only. You guys keep claiming all the Christians must be non-Turkish and there is no base for that claim. Turks can convert to any religion like everyone else. Get over it.
@@kutukteyiz408 If their is tons of "evidence" as you say why dont you share one?Also by your logic are Armenians and jews who wrote in turkish with their onw alphabet also turks?
Unfortunately, this world; it is very sad that all the world's traditions, cultures, dirty wars (due to bloodthirsty people) have disappeared or are about to disappear from the world heritage. Trying to make people enemies of each other, imposing that they are different from each other, which in essence everyone is the same. peace at home, peace in the world ...
Nice video and Greetings from Greece, I think you forgot to mention the Pontic Greek language which is the biggest immigrating speaking language among the Greek Population here in Greece.
Pontic greek is not extinct. It is still spoken in some pontic speaking muslim towns in Trabzon like Tonya, Çaykara, Of and Surmene. Local speakers call it "Romeika". th-cam.com/video/-LHhSK5SsYo/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ermansa%C4%9F%C4%B1ro%C4%9Flu
@@yegenek biz yunan değiliz rum rumalı demek aq salağı trabzon gürçü ve lazlar tarafından kuruldu diğer ismi lazika latinlerin istanbulu işgali ile yunan mültecileri trabzona aldık bunlarda dillerini din ve ticaret ile yaydılar biz ağırlıklı olarak kafkas halkıyız
Out of all the anatolian greek dialects, pontic seems surprisingly well off in comparison. Though personally my grandma's side didn't pass it on and only speak turkish, unfortunately.
Come to Cappadocia someday. One of the most beautiful places on Earth, if you ask me. Stay in a cave-hotel for the best experience, and wake up to an enormous breakfast while watching the balloons.
@@lordofbanshees I cannot my friend. This caves were made by my Ancestors. I cannot go to My Homeland, because its Going to see the Ruins of your Ancestors. My Heart couldn't handle the pain of seeing with my own eyes all that was lost. I already think little of you Turks. I would probably hate you even more if I went and I try to be a Good Chistian, without Burning rage in my Heart.
a few inaccuracies both Mlahso and Hertevin are part of the Syriac (Suret/Sureth) language, Syriac is the greek translation of what we call our language in our tongue which is Suret/Sureth which derived from Ashurit which would literally translate to "Assyrianly" due to then fact that when Assyrians adopted aramaic in the 8th century bc we still kept many words from our old language Akkadian. The two dialects you mentioned fall under that umbrella of being Assyrian, "Chaldean" and "Syriac orthodox" are denominations of the Assyrian people just like how Alevis, Alawites and Sufis would still be turks. i'm Chaldean Catholic myself but 100% ethnically and linguistically Assyrian.
Wow, this is a great summary, thank you! Since I am not a historian but an amateur content creator, I might also make mistakes 😀 But I really appreciate this comment and will pin it for people to see this. Thanks!
I'm very angry that the Turkish Government send the Karamanlides to Greece. They're origin is Turkish and they only spoke Turkish, it's not logically that you also send them. There villages were very Close to my village.
Very nice video. At first I thought you were going to talk about the hellenised ancient Anatolian Indo-Europeans (e.g. Phrygians, Lydians etc). I was not acquainted with the peoples you mentioned. Tebrikler arkadaşım, yeni bir abonen var
Also Latin, Hittite, Akkadian, and Mesopotamian, some therized there were speakers of Etruscan or something similar to it. Also countless other languages preserved by the Hittites
Karamanlides are turkish who are speaking turkish but the alfabet is greek. These people are christian and came this region before the other muslim turkish people arrived there. Unfortunalely they were sent to greek 1923 due to their religion christian, they are not greek, they are %100 percent real turkish.
Οι Καραμανλίδες είναι οι Ρωμιοί χριστιανοί ορθόδοξοι της Καππαδοκίας .Οι Καραμανλίδες μιλούσαν είτε καραμανλίδικα(ελληνική διάλεκτο) και ορισμένοι τουρκικά (με την καραμανλίδικη προφορά).Eίμαστε ΡΩΜΙΟΙ Καραμανλίδες έλεγαν οι παππούδες μας και η καταγωγή μας είναι από την Καππαδοκία. Αυτό δεν πρόκειται να το ξεχάσουμε ποτέ και δυστυχώς μας έδιωξαν οι Τούρκοι από την πατρίδα μας.
Karamanlides aren't turkish they were byzantine greeks tha just where linguistically turkified, that was the case for armenians and jews in the same region
08:04, It's written on a fountain. I can't read the 'ΣΑΧΜ=ΟΥΛ' part, but the Latin alphabet version of the other part is 'Hayrat, İçenlere afiyet, yaptırana rahmet,' which means 'Charity: Blessings to those who drink, mercy to the benefactor.
Some ethno-religious groups, when outnumbered by Turks, did accept the Turkish vernacular through a gradual process of acculturation. While the Greeks of the Pelo ponnese, Thessaly, Epirus, Macedonia, Thrace, and the west Anatolian lit toral continued to speak and write in Greek, the Greeks of Cappadocia (Karaman) spoke Turkish and wrote Turkish in Greek script. Similarly, a large majority of the Armenians in the empire adopted Turkish as their vernacular and wrote Turkish in Armenian characters, all efforts to the contrary by the Mkhitarist order notwithstanding. The first novels published in the Ottoman Empire in the mid-nineteenth century were by Armenians and Cappodocian Greeks; they wrote them in Turkish, using the Armenian and Greek alphabets. In areas heavily populated by Turks, vernacular Turkish naturally be came the lingua franca even without state-sponsored promotion or imposition.
The "circassian people map" includes Bashuyuk (Konya) and some other villages in Eskisehir. Those villages speak Karachay, a Turkic language of northern Cuacasia.
An excellent study of Cappadocian Greek, with a good text collection, is in Dawkins, R.M. 1916. Modern Greek in Asia Minor. A study of dialect of Silly, Cappadocia and Pharasa. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. Available online.
Glad you liked it, thank you! One point I would like to add is that Türkiye can’t be %100 categorized as Middle East. Parts of the country are very European, some parts are Mediterranean and some parts resemble Middle East.
Cappadocian Greeks, suffered heavily brcause they were forced to leave their homeland. They were known for their devotion to the Orthodox faith. On the 12th of July we celebrated our beloved Saint Paisios, who was brought to Greece from Cappadocia as a bady during the exchange.
Very interesting and a very well done video! I'm a Canadian of Greek heritage (family from Peloponese in Greece) and I will be in Greece in the fall. I would like to travel to the Pontus region (Black Sea) and Trabzon to explore the culture and history. Do you have any suggestions of any cultural tours or guides that could help me? I'm a 63 year old woman traveling alone and have limited Greek! Good luck with your channel and I will subscribe.
Thank you! I am glad you liked it and thanks for subscribing 🙏🏻 Unfortunately, I am not aware of any cultural tours nor guides. But Black Sea region is really fascinating. Enjoy your travels and good luck!
You could try talking to Savvas Kalenteridis. Look him up here, he has a channel. He also has (or had?) a publishing house, among others publishing travel guides for the Pontus region. His family background is from there, he has been there countless times, speaks turkish as well as pontic greek etc. He may be able to help, although I'm not sure they published anything in english. They're more into politics and geopolitics these days, but they should have their old tourist publications. In any case, he knows the region very well. They used to have a travel guides bookstore right in the centre of Athens, somewhere around Syntagma square. Some ten years ago it was there at least. Good luck & thanks to the channel for the nice video. And make sure you enjoy your greek holiday, I'm half moraitis too, from Laconia on my father's side and I'm even based down here at the moment. Edit: adding that Infognomon Books is the name of the publishing house.
I can help you for Trabzon, I am from Tonya in Trabzon, I am living in Thrace but I have too much my friends and family in Trabzon... My Mother living in Tonya (alone). You can stay with her, Best regards...
When was that? 3000 years ago? And how do you know that the Greeks ended this civilisations? I would rather say that this was a gradual development. Whereas the Young Turks and Kemal Atatürk intentionally discriminated and deracinated these antique cultures. And this can be found in many history books. But I honestly believe that no culture stands above another.
GREEK INVADERS?AS WE KNOW GREEKS WERE THERE 3.500 YEARS.MONGOLIANS CAME SINCE 900 AND THEN..SLOWLY MASSACRED ALL THE OTHERS THAT WEREN'T ISLAMISTS-MUSLIMS. Which school did you gratuated?
As a chaldean born in Baghdad, in Al Risafa district and then moved to Al-karada among muslim shiaat , inthe 1950s,my parents came from the city of Tel-keppie, which mean in Aramaic =stonesHill because of abig hill next to the city which used to be the old city that was abandoned over a thousand years ago because of disease and death, in Mosul, northern of Iraq, about five kilometers from mosul. We my parents move to the capital Baghdad in 1920s-1930s, for better life away from muslim and dumb arabs. Today we left Iraq , and live in europe in marsilia, france about 15thosands, and australia about Ten thosands, and in california ,san diego about 20thousands, and Detroit, Michgan, U. S. A., about one hundred thousands, we all speak Aramaic, and Arabic, I personally speak, five languages, Greek, Arabic, English, Russian, And My wonderful Aramaic babylonian syriac, read and write. 🇮🇶🇮🇶🇮🇶🇮🇶✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️ we are Roman catholic, ابو كرستوفر الكلداني، I am also proud of my cousins the Assyrians And the syriacs christians of syria and lebanon. May our great nations live for ever. خايا امتن سورياياثا، ماري ايشوع امشيحا بت ناطر وشابق كلهين يالي اذ اومتا، يالي اذ كلدو واثور. بارخ ماران ايشوع امشيحا ،بشما اذ بابا وبرونا ولروحا اذ قوذشا خا الاها آمين.
At the time of the Greek offensive against Turkey in 1921, priests and members of the congregation of some Karamanli communities sent telegrams to the Turkish Great National Assembly (the provisional government of Mustafa Kemal) claiming that they were patriotic Turks, distancing themselves from the patriarchate's involvement in the Greek national cause, and stating that they wished to replace Greek with Turkish as the language of their liturgy." Dur ing discussions over the drafting of the 1923 exchange agreement with Greece concerning the compulsory exchange of populations, the Turkish authorities considered exempting the Turkish-speaking Christians from the exchange. It was finally decided that the exclusive criterion for deciding which people would stay in their homelands and which were to be expelled should be religion rather than language, and the Karamanlides living elsewhere than Istanbul were removed to Greece. However, a significant proportion of the Orthodox Christians who have remained in Istanbul till the present day come from a Karamanli background. In their new homeland the Karamanlides faced prejudice and discrim ination from many native Greeks because they spoke the language of the age-old enemy of Hellenism; indeed, they were sometimes taunted with the allegation that they were of Turkish racial stock. During the Metaxas dictatorship some of them were punished as a result of the law forbidding the speaking of any language but Greek in public. Nikos Marantzidis writes that the myth of the Turkish-speaking Christians from western Pontus now living in Greece is that the Turks had forced them to choose between abandoning their language and renouncing their religion. whereupon they decided to preserve their religion. They thus saw their speaking of Turkish as an acquired characteristic forced upon them by the conquerors, at the expense of their Greek language. This myth resolved the antithesis between the two poles of nationality: language and religion.45 2010. Language and national identity in Greece 1766-1976. Oxford: Oxford University Press, p.305.
In your first paragraph you are referring to a very small minority led by an opportunist priest (Papa Eftim) hoping for his own advancement and the of his followers at the expense of the Karamanlides as a whole.
It's interesting to mention that the 1st written record of Capadocian Greek was written by Persian Poet Molana jalal adin mohamad Balkhi Rumi or simply known as Rumi or Roman
Atatürk expressed his sadness for the people of Karaman, who had to go to Greece after the decision taken in the Treaty of Lausanne. They were the people of this geography and their hearts were with their Muslim neighbors.
@@maralfniqle5092 you imply a some kind of pogrom or exile took place. That was a population exchange that was signed by both Greece and Turkey. It was the two states not "neighbors forcing one another out".
@@maralfniqle5092 it was also pity that the greeks in anatolia started to kill their turkish neighbours when greece occupied western region of turkiye thinking that they will get what they want. you greeks always love looking from a victim-card perspective and dramatize themselves.
@@sarubet8725 what kind of agreement is it when one invades the other, and when he loses, his population becomes an ethnic target by the now winners ? As for the "exile", if that's not an exile, I don't know what it is. Half of my family is from Bursa/Broussa, but when we arrived in Greece, even though we spoke Greek, we faced huge racism. My grandfathers homeland was never Greece, but they were forced to leave or die. I call that an exile. As said by Greek speaking Muslim from Crete, who was displaced to Anatolia, the exiled were enemies and strangers in both places...
Very nice video! I'm Greek but from the peloponnese area. So i have no connection with the Greeks of Anatolia. It's interesting to see how modern day Turks have many similarities with modern day Greeks. Especially the ones that come from the regions mentioned in your video. As well from the Aegean side. It proves that many Turks have Greek DNA. Didn't mean to write something that may offend your viewers but it's my personal opinion.
@@turkmuhendis Original Turkish DNA ist Asian. Don't see much Asian features in the appearance of modern Turks. So in my opinion it's much likely that modern Turks have more Greek or Anatolian DNA than the other way around. But you are right that the Ottoman Empire was also the state of the Greeks (Eastern Romans)
The language of the 𐱅𐰇𐰼𐰰 people Su=water /水 (Suv)=fluent-flowing Suvu> Sıvı=fluid, liquid Suv’up =liquefied Suv-mak= to make it flow onwards/ upwards >suvamak Suy-mak= to make it flow over Süv-mek= to make it flow inwards Sür-mek= to make it flow ON something (sürdürmek/sürtmek/sürünmek/sürülmek) Su-arpa>Surappah(chorba)=soup /Surup(şurup)=syrup /Suruppat(şerbet)=sorbet /Surab(şarap)=wine /Surah(şıra)=juice Süp-mek= to make it flow outwards / (Süp-ğur-mek)>süpürmek=to sweep -mak/mek>(umak/emek)=process/ exertion (machine/ mechanism) -al =~obtain through -et =~ do / make -der = ~set /provide -kur=~ set up -en=own diameter /about oneself -eş=each mate (each other/together or altogether) -la/le = ~make this by it /do it this way Say-mak= to make it flow drop by drop /one by one from the mind = ~ to count ~ to deem (sayı=number) (bilgisayar=computer) Söy-mek= to make it flow out of the mind > Söy-le-mek= make the sentences flow through the mind = ~to say, ~to tell Sev-mek= to make it flow/pour from the mind to the heart = to love Söv-mek=to say whatever's on own mind=swearing Süy-mek= to make it flow through (Süÿt> süt= milk/ दूध) Soy-mak= to make it flow over it/him/her ( to peel, ~to strip, ~to rob )(soygan>soğan=onion) (Soy-en-mak)>soyunmak=to undress (Suy-ğur-mak)>sıyırmak= ~skinning , ~skimming Siy-mek= to make it flow downwards / to pee Siÿtik>sidik= urine Say-en-mak>sanmak= ~to pour from thought to the idea (to arrive at a guess) Sav-mak= ~to make it pour outward /put forward / set forth in >sav=~assertion (Sav-en-mak)>savunmak=to defend (Sav-ğur-mak)>savurmak=to strew it outward (into the void) (Sav-eş-mak)>savaşmak=to shed each other's blood >savaş= war savuşmak=to get scattered altogether outright > sıvışmak=~run away in fear Sağ-mak= ~to make it pour tight >Sağanak=downpour > Sahan=the container to pour water Sağ-en-mak>sağınmak= ~to spill from thought into emotions> ~longing Sek-mek= to go (by forcing /hardly) forward /on it Sak-mak = to grasp/ hold (back by forcing /hardly) (sakar=clumsy) Sak-en-mak>sakınmak =~to ponder hard/hold oneself back/beware Sok-mak= to take/put it (by forcing) inward Soğ-mak=to penetrate (forced) > Soğurmak=~ make it penetrate inward /~to suck Sök-mek= to take/put it (by forcing) from the inside out (~unstitch/rip out) Sık-mak = ~to press (by forcing) inward / ~squeeze (Sıkı= stringent) Sığ-mak= ~fit inside (Sığ-en-mak>sığınmak= ~to take shelter) Süz-mek=~to make it lightly flow from top to bottom (~to filter, strain out) Sez-mek=~to keep it mentally flowing gently (~to perceive, to intuit) Sız-mak=~to get flowed slightly (~to infiltrate) Suŋ-mak=to extend it forward (to put before, to present) Süŋ-mek=to get expanded outwards (sünger=sponge) (süngü=bayonet) Sıŋ-mak=to reach by stretching upward / forward Siŋ-mek=to shrink (oneself) by getting down or back (to lurk, to hide out) Söŋ-mek=to get decreased by getting out or in oneself (to fade out) Tan= the dawn /旦 Tanımak= to recognize (~to get the differences of) Tanınmak = tan-en-mak= to be known/recognized Tanıtmak = tan-et-mak=to make known /to introduce Tanışmak=tan-eş-mak= to get to know each other =(to meet for the first time) Danışmak= to get information through each other Tanılamak=tanı-la-mak= diagnose /to identify Tıŋı= the tune (timbre) /调 Tıŋ-mak=to react verbally >Tınlamak=responding /~to take heed of Tıŋı-la-mak= to get the sound out Tiŋ-mek=to get at the silence >Dinmek= to get quiescent Tiŋi-le-mek=to get the sound in >Dinlemek= to listen / 听 Theng> Denk =~equal / sync / 登克 Denge =balance (Tenğ-mek)>Değmek=to touch each other (at the same point,position or level)/ ~to be of equal-level/ being worth) (tenger> değer=sync level) (teğet= tangent) (teng-yüz>deŋiz=sea) eş değer=equivalent > eş diğer= equal to (each other) Deng-en-mek>değinmek = to mention / touch upon Deng-eş-mek>değişmek =to turn into something else equivalent /to get altogether a change Deng-eş-der-mek>değiştirmek =to change it /~exchange Çığ (chuw) = snowslide / 雪崩 Çığ-ğur-mak =çığırmak= ~to scream /~read by shouting Çağır-mak= calling / inviting / 称呼 / 邀请 Çığırı > Jigir > Şiir = Poetry / 诗歌 Cığır-la-mak > Jırlamak > to squeal /~shout with a shrill voice Çığırgı >Jırgı> Şarkı = Song / 曲子 Çiğ (chee)= uncooked, raw / 生 Çiğne-mek =to chew / 咀嚼 (Çiğnek) Çene =chin / 下巴 Çiğ (chie)= vapor drop, dew / 汽 , 露 (çi’çek=flower/ çi’se=drizzle) Taş = the stone (portable rock)/大石头 Taşı-mak = to take (by moving) it / to carry Taşı-et-mak =Taşıtmak> to have it transported Taşı-en-mak =Taşınmak> to move oneself to a different place Kak-mak=to give direction (Kakğan=which one's directing>Kağan>Kahan>Han =leader) (Baş-khan>Başkan=president) Kak-der-mak>kaktırmak= ~to set aside Kak-al-mak>kağılmak =to be oriented via/ to get fixed anywhere >kalmak= to stay Kağılık-mak=to tend upward >kalkmak =to stand up / to get up Kak-al-der-mak>kağıldırmak>to make it being steered away> kaldırmak = to remove Kak-en-mak> kağınmak=~to be canted> kanmak / ikna olmak= to ac-know-ledge it's so, to be convinced Kak-en-der-mak> kağındırmak= kandırmak (ikna etmek) = ~ to trick , (to persuade) Der-mek=(~to provide) to set a layout by bringing together (der-le-mek= to compile) (deri=integument, derm) Dar-mak= to bring into a different order by disrupting the old (tarkan=conqueror) (tarım= agriculture / tarla= arable field) ( taramak= to comb) Dar-al-mak>darılmak=getting into a disrubted mood toward someone Dur-mak= to keep being present (~to remain/~to survive/~to halt on) (thoru>diri= alive) durabilir=durable (boğa-thor>bahadır=冒頓=survivor-victim>victor hero) Dur-der-mak> durdurmak= ~to stop Dür-mek= to roll it up (to make it become a roll) (dürüm=roll of bread) Dör-mek= to rotate on its axis >thörmek = to mix/ blend (döngü/ törüv=tour) (törüv-giş=tourist) (dörük=blended) (Thörü-mek)>türemek= to become a new layout/form by coming together in the same medium (tür= kind / type) (Thörük =created order/form by coming together) >Türk Töre=order established over time= custom/tradition > (torah=sacred order) (tarih=history) Thör-et-mek>türetmek= to create a new layout combining= to derive Thör-en-mek>dörünmek= to rotate oneself / to turn by oneself Thörünmek>Törn-mek>Döŋmek= to turn oneself (döner=rotary dün=yesterday dünya=world) (Döŋ-der-mek)>döndürmek= to turn something (Döŋ-eş-mek)>dönüşmek= to turn (altogether) to something (Döŋ-eş-der-mek)>dönüştürmek= to convert/ transform (Edg) Eğ-mek=to turn something the other way or to a curved shape> eğmek= to tilt/ to bend eğim =inclination Eğ-al-mek>Eğilmek=to get being inclined/ be bent Eğ-et-mek>Eğitmek=to educate Eğir-mek= to make it rotate around itself or turn to another way within a specified time =~ to spin (eğri =curve /awry) Evir-mek=to make spin around itself or turn it another form in a specified time =~to invert Devir-mek = to make it overturn (devir=~circuit) Eğir-al-mek>Eğrilmek= to become a skew / become twisted Evir-al-mek>Evrilmek= to get a conversion/transformation over time (evrim=evolution, devrim=revolution, evren=universe,) Uğra-mak= to get (at) a place or a situation for a specified time> uğramak= drop by/ stop by Uğra-eş-mak=to stop by (altogether) into each other for a specified time> uğraşmak=to strive/ to deal with Uğra-et-mak> uğratmak = to put in a situation for a specific time Öğre-mek=to get (at) a status or a level / to get an accumulation within a certain time Öğre-en-mek=to get (at) a knowledge or info level at a certain time> öğrenmek= to learn Öğre-et-mek=to have somebody get (at) a knowledge /info level (at a certain time)= to teach Türkçe öğretiyorum =I am teaching turkish İngilizce öğreniyorsun = You are learning english Öğreniyorsun = You are learning > Öğren-i-yor-u-sen (You’ try to learn) Öğreniyorum = I am learning Öğreniyordum = I was learning Öğreniyormuşum=I heard/realized that I was learning Öğrenmekteyim=I have been learning / I am in (the process of) learning Öğrenmekteydim=I had been learning / I was in (the process of) learning Öğrenmekteymişim=I heard/noticed that I had been learning Öğrenirim =~ I learn (then) > Öğren-e-er-im (I get to learn) Öğrenirdim= ~I used to learn / I would learn (~I‘d get (a chance) to learn ) Öğrenirmişim=I heard/noticed I would be learning ( I realized I’ve got (a chance) to learn) Öğreneceğim= I will learn Öğrenecektim= I would gonna learn (I would learn) Öğrenecekmişim=I heard/realized that I would have to learn Öğrendim = I learned Öğrenmiştim= I had learned Öğrenmiş oldum (öğrenmiş durumdayım)= I have learned Öğrendiydim= I remember having learned /I remember such that I've learned Öğrenmişim =I realized that I've learned Öğrendiymişim=I heard that I’ve learned -but if what I heard is true Öğrenmişmişim=I heard that I've learned -but what I heard didn't sound very convincing Öğreniyorumdur =I guess/likely I am learning Öğreniyordurum =I think/likely I was trying to learn Öğreniyormuşumdur=As if I was probably learning Öğreneceğimdir= I think that I will probably learn Öğrenecektirim=I guess/likely I would gonna learn Öğrenecekmişimdir=As if I probably would have to learn Öğrenecekmiştirim=Looks like I probably would have learned Öğrenmişimdir = I think that I have probably learned Öğrenmiştirim= I guess/likely I had learned
Turkish world is split in east-west. Most of the people in Turkey belong to western Turks, with the City of Semerkand at the center. Seljuks belonged to western Turks also. After Mongol invasion and again in 1700 demographics of Turkistan changed. Most people in Modern Turkey came through Caucasus or through Iran. Ottomans confederated with Crimean Khanate, one of the successors of Golden Horde. There is significant mixture of Tatar and Kipchak elements. Nomadic Turks had to marry outside of their clan. Possibly, they may have opted for local woman during the initial stages of invasion. Urban population was devastated because of plague and lawlessness, while there was a population boom in Turkistan because of improved irrigation. When Ottomans arrived, they were all generals, no soldiers among them. They had to recruit fighting man locally, who may not even be Muslim. Turkish clans rejected and resented these devshirmes. These may explain the DNA mix. There were Christian Turkish speaking people all around Black Sea, not only Karamanlis. There were Christian and Jewish Turks before 850, when first Bible was translated into Turkish. Karamanlis and others are most likely not Greek. According to Biruni, Turks were very familiar Greek and Latin literature. They had a library of ancient texts in Semerkant, which was established around 600. This library was sacked by Arabs around 712 and most likely moved to Bagdad.
@@turkmuhendis The Hungarians are white people because the assimilated the local populations. Only their language is Asian. Genetically they are Europeans.
Turks and Greeks do not fall in the same clusters in Genetic PCA's. Also, judging from some of the N haplogroup that can be found in Greece maybe you guys had some Turkopol in you eh?
This is one of the most interesting videos I have seen recently. The languages are man-made and they belong to our natural richness, like living organisms. Because a language is product of human intelligence, it may help to understan how we think.
The two dialects and not languages which were spoken by some Syrian orthodox "Suryani" and the other dialect of the Chaldeans, one dialect is West Assyrian (Assuri) and the other is East Assyrian (Assuri) even if there are some words which may be spoken differently but I am able to understand both dialects . This is interesting, I have never heard nor anyone spoke of these two dialects
I appreciate a lot this very well done video, informative and open minded. I'll treasure it. I perfectly understand of course your choice not to talk about Armeian and Kurdish, it's sad that politics should limit knowledge. Said this, your contribution is great. Beautiful Turkey, I love you.
Thanks, I am glad you liked this video 🙏🏻 Why would I choose not a talk about Kurdish and Armenian? These are not extinct languages and this video is about extinct languages. I don’t discriminate against cultures and love all the people, languages and cultures of Turkey 🇹🇷❤️ I will make many more videos about these in the future 😀
The woman you show in the Karamanli segment isn't Karamanli and she isn't speaking Karamanlidika. She's Pontic Greek from Trabzon and speaks standard Greek mixed with Pontic Greek. Foreign scholars that visited the region of Karamanli Greeks in the 1800's mention that at that time their language still had a number of Greek words that vanished later. The Greco-Turkic soldiers of the that region that you mention known as "tourkopoloi" (sons of Turks) part of them were transported to the region of Thrace during Ottoman times and part of them converted to islam and was assimilated by the other Turks. Genetic studies also show that Karamanlides don't have input from Central Asia like the Turkish Muslims of that region have.
Modern nations can suppress language and/or ethnic identity in the name of uniformity and real or imaginary national security. Thank God however they cannot achieve such uniformity in cuisine and music, two forms of art. 😊
As someone whose ancestors lived in Anatolia and during Ottoman -Safavid wars moved to Iran , I can say that as far as historic research is concerned one must speak of Anatolia instead of Turkey , bear in mind that Ottoman elite did Not identify themselves as Turkish and nor did call their territories Turkey , considering the fact that even Seljuqs army who arrived in Anatolia around 1000 had already been mixed with many non-Turkic muslim peoples .
Ottoman legitimacy drew on Turco-Mongol and Islamic precedents. Fleischer sees the Ottoman Empire as a 'unique, if not aberrant, phe nomenon' in Islamic history due to its emphasis on natural justice and the central role of the Ottoman dynasty as rulers of a defined geographic sphere (Fleischer, 1986: 253). The sixteenth-century Ottoman theorists Ebu's-Su'ud and Mustafa Ali upheld broadly similar theses for the legiti macy of the Ottomans which included the manipulation of their lineage to indicate their descent from Oghuz, the eponym of the Ghuzz Turks, their inheritance of Muslim lands from the Seljuk Turks and their dedica tion to justice, understood as a religious, universal concept (Imber, 1997: 73-4; Fleischer, 1986: 282, 287-8). Although the Ottomans adopted a more obviously Islamic profile after their conquest of the Arab lands, including the holy cities of Mecca and Medina, in the early sixteenth century, a distinction remained between religion and the state/dynasty (din-ü-devlet) which was also apparent in the Ottomans' dual legal sys tem based on the Shari'a and 'state' kamun, despite the close partnership between the two. Secular attitudes derived from the Turco-Mongol heritage were also qualified by the tendency among Ottoman political theorists of dis cussing international relations using the medieval dar al-islam/dar al-harb formulation and its concomitant, jihad or ghaza. This reflected the ori gins of the Ottoman Empire as a Turkic warrior principality on the frontiers of Byzantium which led generations of Ottoman sultans to style themselves 'holy warriors' (ghazis) until the Empire's demise in the 1920s. Their conquest of the Balkans and Aegean peninsula was legitimised in terms of jihad against the infidel, and their conquest of Constantinople was celebrated as the culmination of the Islamic conquests which had begun in the seventh century. In much advice literature of the sev enteenth and eighteenth centuries, the need to continue the jihad and expand the Ottoman Muslim domain in order to restore the inner vital ity of the Empire is a recurrent trope alongside more practical suggestions for reform. International Society and the Middle East: English School Theory at the Regional Level (Palgrave Studies in International Relations) 2009th Edition by B. Buzan (Editor), A. Gonzalez-Pelaez (Editor) p.55
Thanks for sharing this. Population Exchange caused many sad stories for both sides. It must be a huge change to leave your home and go to lands that you have never been before.
Interesting video. I would like to ask about Turkish people in General. Are they just turkified mix of indo-europeans(balkan slaves or refugees, greeks,Anatolians) or just Anatolians or are they mostly descendants of the turkic nomads that came from Asia? (that were already heavily mixed with indo-European people before they arrived).
Thank you, glad you found it interesting. You can subscribe to see similar content in the future :) I think all cases apply. We Turkish people are very mixed and that’s we are quite diverse in looks. I have Turkish friends who are blonde and have blue eyes, friends who look Mediterranean, friends who look central Asian, and friends who look similar to Arabs and Iranians. That’s why it’s hard to categorize really. As our founding father Atatürk said “How happy is he/she who can say I am a Turk”. It’s not about your ethnic origins but the feeling and seeing yourself as a Turkish person. That’s the best way I can explain. Hope it helps!
@@turkchap My dna is English , Greek Cypriot & Anatolian & French. I am blue eyed from cypriot side. The whole world is mixed there is no 'pure' dna left. I am free to do as my Conscience bids as are you. Now only the sacred impulse of Conscience divides between those who it have & those whom have not (or will not listen ). Thankyou for this wonderful insight . Great video ❤
You should add Ladino as well, it will be an extinct language soon as the Jewish population in Turkey is decreasing and speakers of this language mostly over 70.
For a long time it was thought Arabic originated in Yemen. But more evidence show that history was distorted by early Muslims for ideological reasons and in fact Arabic started as a dialect of Aramaic in the Levant bordering Turkey. Another dialect of Aramaic is Syriac. This all makes much more sense because of the closeness between them.
It is not really a dialect from Aramaic, more like an indirect descendent.Syriac the direct descendant and at the same time a dialect of Aramaic has indeed alot influenced Arabic.
@@baudouiniv9766 First recorded identification of Arabs and Arabic is in the Syrian desert, 9th century BC and that was long before their presence in Arabia. From what I read some referred to Aramaic and Arabic as sibling languages and some refer to Syriac and Arabic are both descendants of Aramaic. The truth is muslims scholars lie as they prefer to show Arabic as independent language not influenced by others and originated in Arabia. And also Assyrian nationalists and many Christians also lie and prefer to disassociate themselves from Arabic and Arabs. Arabic and Aramaic languages were both present in the same area for 1500 years before Islam
How many people in Turkey are really Turkish in origin? The language came from the Steppes but I imagine most people are still of Anatolian origin. Have there been any studies into this?
When you make a content about anatolia, such a pity that, the greeks come immediately thinking that the content was created to praise and holify them. Unfortunately things do not change even years passed, they don't learn from the history. They still think all christian turks are greeks :(
I just care about making videos about the cultural treasures, interesting facts and beauties of beautiful Türkiye 🇹🇷❤️ I don’t care about the rest of the petty arguments.
While some of the Greek subjects were converting to Islam. It is interesting that the Karamanlides under Turkish rule adopted only the Turkish language and did not change their religion. They were probably already Turks. The Turks communities had different religious beliefs. (Manism, Christianity, Buddhism, Tengrism, Shamanism and the religion of Moses) The prayer of the Karmanlı grandmother "I slept on my right, I got up on my left" was repeated by the Kızık tribe, including my mother, and by the Avşar (Karaman people) tribe, including my father. I am 47 years old, I remember my grandparents' prayers. In addition, our historians now accept that the Analodu Turks became Islamized "in today's sense" after the 17th century. (Alevi and Bektashism were more common) Even if they said they were Muslims, they still had tengri beliefs, some still did not know how to "pray". Over time, many peoples living in the Ottoman lands converted to Islam. Later on, they became Turkic in time and formed kinship with the Turks. Therefore, Turkishness is not only an ethnicity, but also a language and a culture. If there are Greek or Bulgarian among our ancestors, I feel proud as if I was proud of my Turkish ancestors. A few fascists or Turkish enemies cannot decide what my identity or that of other Turks will be. You won't find an Aryan race in Mesopotamia, you idiots. There is no pure race in the Balkans and Greece either. There is no such thing in the world. Do you know the Galatians (Celts) who settled in Thrace, the Balkans, the Black Sea coasts and Anatolia? Or do you know the Hittites who came from the Caucasus and spoke Chechen? many more communities. They are still among us and now they are modern Turks.
Sana tamamen katılıyorum bizi birleştiren peygamberin ümmeti olmamız ve bütün müslümanların kardeş olmasıdır ordumuzda Mehmetçik peygamberin ordusu ona olan sevgimiz den gelir
Talas savaşında Türkler Araplara müslümanlarla beraber olduğu için yardım etti Alparslan malazgirtte Müslümanlık adına zafer diledi fatih Sultan Mehmet peygamberin ovgusune Mazhar olmak için İstanbul'u fethetti yavuz sultan selime çölde peygamber yol gösterdi Mısır'da kutsal emanetleri aldı ümmet olmaktan rahatsız olma her insan ölünce toprak olacak bir peygambere tabi olacak bundan rahatsız olma
This is not true while turkic mercenaries existed they were never even close as numerous to form such a large community as karamanlides and their is no evidence that they settled in central anatolia, this is further proven by the dna samples from karamanlides which show that they dont score any turkic admixture but they are identical genetically to other Cappadocian Greeks.Lastly, Armenian and jews in the karaman region also changed their native language to Turkish while they kept their alphabet.
Karamanli Turkish is still alive. You are wrong about this. Now, whichever village you go to in Cappadocia, the people in that village will answer you with a dialect just like your aunt in the video.
@@sunmoonlightning789 Christian Turks or Turkic people are exist, you know. As mentioned in the video, Christian Turks even served in the Byzantine army. So, what I am trying to say is the perception of "Turk = Muslim" in your head is not quite correct. Also, throughout history, the Turks have been under the influence of many civilizations and have used many alphabets. So, the "alphabet" and "religion" arguments are not very strong. But, maybe you're right. Karamans were a uniqe situation. That's why I wrote "...that's what I want to believe" in my first comment.
8:41 I should add that I was nor just the Karamanlides and the pontic Greeks and the cappadokians faced discrimination I was not because they didn’t speak greek it was just because they were from turkey even the pontic people that spoke greek were cooled Turks and whatever there was a lot of racism against Turks at the time and they so the refugees as nothing more that Turks
The same happens everywhere. Several years ago I was to Kazakstan and had a chance to chat with few Kazakhs. Some of them believe ( I think it is a sortt of nationalistic superstition) that true Kazakhs have green or blue eyes (some really do). They spoke ill about Kazakhs from Mongolia who immigrated to Kazakhstan and call them Mongols - their eyes are dark brown and their traditions are closer to Mongolian ones.
Very sorry to say that, but the way things are going at the present time, Turkish is going to be one of those extinct languages within a generation or two to be replaced by Arabic.
The karamanlides are not greeks but turks. One evidence for that is that they have traditions and sayings that even the turks that came later during the seljuk periods do not have but other turkic people have. Also it is quite unreasonable why they wouldnt keep their language when they other greek neighbours were completely fine using it. There couldve been a natural assimilation that happened but that simply doesnt make any sense consideringt the fact that theywere also culturally differnet from both greeks and seljuk turks. In areas where the karamanli lived, there were also armenians besides also turks. armenians were also using their language. not to forget the fact that the language of orthodox church in these regions were always greek. besides cultural evidence of them being of turkic ancestry is that they have central asian stories in their tablet writings. All that makes it impossible to conclude that they are greeks that speak turkish but that they are christian turks. And the karamanli themselves know that very well. the forced resettlement was a huge mistake. not only for the replaced christians of anatolia but also for the muslims of greece. no one talks about them anymore.
My friend I saw an interview by a Greek reporter I thought it was through the Easy Greek channel. They went to Turkey and asked Turkish people what they think about Greece. One man said that his family was from Alexandroupoli and when the exchange happened they were forced to leave and were placed in Turkey, I think in Pontum. Eventually, years later, he visited the village his family originated from. He was sad. Only the people that were forced to leave their houses and their land and their property can have a saying in such tragic events. We can't say anything to them. We failed them, for political mistakes.
@@Estelleeeeee yes we failed. My family was also misplaced in greece btw. I wish the forced resettlement never happened, now these countries would have had an amazing bond.
@@sunmoonlightning789 you act like the romans werent good at forcefully christianizing people. They came to anatolia before the seljuks. Also its not true that turks were fully islamized. I don‘t know how you people invent things like that. Also they wouldnt be the first ones. The bulgarians for example were also turks that came much earlier and then intermixed with thracians and slavs.
great video, I have a concern about the Capadocian Greeks and is that many of the people from Kapadokia, are descendants from the Gallic tribes that settled down in this region and adopted the Christianity and Greek ways over the time. The expansion of the Greeks was mostly around the coast.
Gallic tribes of mercenaries leaving genetic legacy that long is near impossible. Also, even older the Celtic expansion in Anatolia was around marmara and Bursa. It didnt reach to Cappadocia.
@@sarubet8725 Celts, who migrated to Central Anatolia in the Balkans, settled in Ankara and Cappadocia, which were their main bases, and came under Roman domination with the conquest of Anatolia by the Romans.Over time, they adopted Christianity and the Greek religion with the influence of the Eastern Romans, and with the arrival of the Turks in Anatolia, they became Turkish and Islamized
nope, their bloodlines still continues but unfortuntely not in Turkey anymore due to Turkish-Greek Exchange Agreement at 1920s... Ofc when u move, u lost your cultural identiy in time, adopting to new enviroment etc
You remind me how GOOD the internet can be. Thanks
This can be the best comment I’ve received so far. Thank you!
Amen!
As a Capaddocian Greek I congratulate you for your work and thank you! In my village (Cappadocian majority) very few people speak the language and it's up to a certain extent. I'm studying history at the university in hopes that I will be able to save what is already in danger. Çok sağol komşu, mutlu yaz!
I hope you αre successful
@@sudosu_kedy Turkey took care of the Greeks prosperity...with genocides of Armrnians-Greeks-Assyrians etc.Shame....
as a greek and fan of languages this video was very cool, thank you komşu
Thank you 🙏🏻
Thank you komuşu too!
There is another greek language in turkey called romeika or pontiaka, around 5k people speaks it, no written from and even though its similar to todays greek, its very different as well.
Doso ise? How are you?
Kala ime or kalushtiko ime
Tibo felis mi? Do you want anything?
Emistin eshubaumestin: we are going.
And we cant count above 5😂
Ena liyo tiriya tesara penta goes on alti yedi sekiz in turkish. Both my parents Side knows it. I cant speak it anymore because i cant go to my village in Trabzon.
@@hakanozkan3391Pontiaká is half Turkish half Ancient Greek language. I have many friends from Pontus who know it a little
Thαnk you γείτονα for shαring your culture with us
at 8:02 , both inscriptions read: "Sahib-ül hayrat / İçenlere afiyet / Yaptırana rahmet",
which means "Owner of the fountain (wishes) / Bon appetit for those who drink / (and wishes) Mercy (from God) for the one who built (this fountain)"
A long while ago I had taught myself how to read Ottoman Turkish and the Greek alphabet as a hobby.
I'm quite happy that my useless skills came in handy at last! :D
Thanks for the info! :)
Thank you Turk Chap. Great of you to document these languages.
Thank you, glad you liked it 😀
The last ubuhk's final words touched my soul 🙏
There is also the Smyrneika dialect of Greek that was spoken in Smyrna / Izmir region up until 1922. This dialect is mainly characterised by some Greek features that are found in some islands and vocabulary influence from Turkish but also French, Italian and Venetian languages (the Levantines)
As a Turk, I learned languages that live in my own lands but that I do not know. thanks :)
what languages did you learn?
Ülkemizde inanılmaz kültürel hazinelerimiz var ❤️🇹🇷
İmparatorluklar medeniyetin zenginlik temsilcileri güççük güççük cumburliyetler ise farklılıklara tahammülsüzlüğü ana temel almış kuklacıların yataklarıdır .Sahip olduğu cemiyetin % 55 i gayri müslim olan Devlet i Aliyyeyi kötülemek için binbir takla atan hokkabazları mu ölçü alalım yoksa % 45 Müslümanyla ben bütün farklılıkların garantisiyim diyen Osmanlı İslam Devletini mi ölçü alacağız .Topkapı Sarayı ana giriş kapısında; “Bu kapı bütün mazlumların sığınağıdır “ Ayet i Kerimesi sebepsiz yazılmamıştır .Rus İmparatorluğunun son Hanedanı ;Romanof’ların kökünü kazıyan anlayış kendilerini ispanyadaki Katolik Zulmünden kurtarıp Selaniğe İstanbul Edirne Bursa’ya taşıyan Osmanlı Türk Alicenaplığına olan vefa borcunu İmparatorluğu yıkıp 62 kukla devlet kurdurarak gösterdi .
I discovered your channel just today, but i have to say your channel is absolutely underrated and you'd deserve more. You explained these languages and their history on a professional and catchy level. Very good job! Greetings from your old enemy state, the Venetian republic 👊
Thank you! I am very glad to hear it.
I will keep making these types of videos and let’s see where it goes :)
9:43 We call Greeks of Anatolia Rum(Roman) so she calls Greek language as Rumca.
i am a greek of cappadocian decent, but sadly all of my cappadocian ancestors stopped speaking cappadocian once they came to greece
Turks lived in different geographies, with various nations, and still live. They have been in various religions. Currently, there are Christians and Buddhists as well as Turks.Turks have some features that everyone appreciates. They do not interfere with anyone's language and religion.When a military conquers a city, he never touches children and old people. His women are not changed from men to other men. The soldier takes the woman and girl he likes as his wife.If Seljuks and Ottomans had intervened in religion and language, there would be no Serbian, Greek etc. today. The islands in the Aegean Sea remained with the Italians in 1913 and 1947. They taught Italian to everyone. Italian education was given in schools. The Turks stayed in Tunisia, Algeria for 400 years. No one speaks Turkish there. .But French is now known by everyone. In Algeria alone, France killed 1.5 million people.Avar, Pecheneg, Bulgarian, Cuman-Kipchak and Uz Turks came to Anatolia through the Balkans, Central Europe and the Caucasus from the 500s. The Avars besieged Istanbul in 618 and 626. At that time, all Anatolia was occupied by the Persians. A prayer was made. They called this prayer BELLIUM AVARICUM.If you pay attention to this prayer, Italian.Greek began to be spoken in Istanbul and Anatolia after the 8th century. It was the result of the fight with the Vatican. Anatolia, Syria vs Rome and later the Eastern Roman Empire.The historical artifacts here do not have the letter KSI of the Greek alphabet.The BELLIUM AVARICUM prayer is read as the 6th hymn every Easter. It was also read in churches all over Greece on the day Hagia Sophia was opened for worship.The Βulgars were the first Muslims to become Turks. But over time they became Slavs. After 1910, they persecuted the Muslim Turks a lot. For this reason, the Bulgar Mountain in Anatolia was named BOLKAR... For example, there was a Khazar Empire in history. No more today. However, these Khazar Turks belonged to the Jewish religion.Although they are very few, there are also KARAIM JEWISH TURKS in Istanbul, Latvia, Finland, etc.In the Ottoman lands, and therefore in Anatolia, there were Orthodox people who spoke Turkish - did not know Elenika and knew Greek - did not speak Turkish.An example of Izmir folk song for those who don't know Turkish but only Elenika.th-cam.com/video/PavzSnR5pVA/w-d-xo.html
Karatasi_Karataş is the place where Onassis was born in 1900. If you want, I can write to you about his sister Maria/Makbule.
On January 30, 1923 in Lausanne, Lloyd George, Lord Curzon insisted on the Venizalos project. Turkey reluctantly signed. The organization was made by Norwegian Nansen. Commissions were established. It was based on religion. They took the Orthodox from all of Turkey (except Istanbul).300,000 of the 1,500,000 people taken from Turkey were Orthodox Turks. They held rallies saying we are Christians, but we are Turks. They begged.They had fought with Byzantium together with the Muslim Oghuz Turks in 1071 and 1176. The emperor's daughter Anna Comnena said in her diary that "Christian Turks left the army and went over to the side of the Seljuks. We were defeated for her."There were Albanians, Macedonians, etc. among the 1,500,000 people.Greece persecuted these Orthodox Turks a lot. They are now assimilated. Among the 300,000 Orthodox Turks, there were also Gagauz and Çıtak Turks. They were also taken from Thrace
th-cam.com/video/DCM58R41wXY/w-d-xo.html Manolis' parents were from Çıtak Turks who went from Çİftllikköy.Except for the Muslims in the East of the 1913 Bucharest Treaty, other Muslims were sent to Turkey.These were 479.000 people. Among them were Turkish Muslims and Sabbataists (they live in Thessaloniki, although they were Jewish, they were perceived as Turkish. The Greeks called them SAZANIKOS). There were Albanian, Macedonian, Gypsy, Vlach and 50,000 were of Hellenic origin.These Hellenic Muslims were settled by the sea in total in certain regions. Let me give an example, Celaliye.The word Cappadocia is Persian. Greece says Karamanli -Cappadocia, but these Orthodox Turks were everywhere.
I don't know if I could explain it? But this is the right thing.I can also write documents for what I have written. It is scientifically accepted that they are Turkish. Prof Evagelia BALTA, who gives Turkish lessons in Ayvalık every year and is one of these Turks, abstained.Greece does not accept Turks in the Rhodopes.They calls them Muslim Greeks. Funny
@@yakupkeser248 the 1.5 million orthodoxs who migrated to greece, where mostly of greek origin. some of them yes, they where turks. the millions of greeks who lived in anatolia for the past few thousands years can not just dissapear. many greeks where assimilated to islam and to the turkish identity but many others stayed christian and greek. you can not claim 1.5 milion people to be turkish just because you like.
That is the punishment that the Greeks deserve because Alexander the Great invaded Persia.
@@yakupkeser248it’s so truth , finaly someone said the truth..👏👏👏
I’m Turkish Cappadocian, I wish the language would be alive for our regional cultural legacy even outside of Cappadocia
Short, concise and objective. I really appreciate your part on Cappadocian Greek. It is one of the many non mutually intelligible dialects of Greek that have been on the decline since the dissolution of the Ottoman, Austrian and Russian Empires. Another interesting one would be Pontic Greek, which has a lot more speakers today and is spoken in Northern Greece and the ex-Soviet states.
Kapadokya yunancası diye bir sey yok, onların dili Türkçe, alfabeleri yunan alfabesi. Tek kelime yunanca bilmezlerdi, Türkdürler ama dinleri hristiyanlıktır. Mezar taşları bile Türkçedir
Sedat hocam, o dediğin Karamanlı Türkçesi. Kapadokya Yunancası farklı. O eski Kapadokya bölgesinde yaşamış olan Rumların konuştuğu bir Yunanca şivesiydi. Mübadele sonrası kalmadı. Selamlar
@@turkchap Teşekkürler
Mutually unintelligible Hellenic language, not a dialect.
@@papazataklaattiranimam dialect means that it is Greek and its speakers are Greeks. When something is a different language, its speakers aren't Greeks but foreigners. The main difference is sociological, not linguistic 👍
In France and in Europe 1000's of languages have disepeared.
Of course, that’s a very common thing everywhere. Languages die
The last phrase in Ubykh makes me deeply sad. Language death is just as painful as losing a loved one.
Thank you, mister Esenç for giving us a legacy as precious as the Ubykh language. We will try to preserve it's beauty for as long as we can.
Karamanlides Turkish isn’t really extinct. Lady’s Turkish was very easy to communicate. Interviewer asked in modern İstanbul Turkish and she responded in Karaman dialect. It is basically what Turks in modern Karaman and Konya speaks now. Turkish in Greek alphabet is lost however. Other than Karamanlı, all Turkic Christians under Byzantine rule had that back in the days. Still a Turk with a knowledge of Greek alphabet can easily read and understand Karamanlı Turkish.
@@turkmuhendis Efendim,Karamanlıca Türkçesi diye bir Türkçe olurmu? Bu konuda Üniversitelerimizin belgelere dayalı Yüksek Lisans ve Doktora tezleri var.Başta Prof Anzerlioğlu bu işe ömürünü vermiştir.YATTIM SAĞIMA DÖNDÜM SOLUMA diye Müslüman Türkler gibi dua eden Osmanlının Edrak- bi idrak dediği kişiler.Size uzun uzun da yazarım da vaktinizi almak istemiyorum.Tek kelime Yunanca bilmiyorlar.Yan köy de veya kasaba da ise Türkçe bilmeyen Yunanca bilenler var.Ama aslında Dr Georgios Nakracas'a göre bazı ege kıyıları hariç Anadolu da Helen yoktur .Öyle yazmış.Araplar İONYA diyememiş Yunan demiş Ama Anadolu dakiler ve Anadolu ya da RUM demiş.Yani Roma.RUM suresi var Kur'an da.Celâleddin-i Rumi,Bacıyan-ı Rum var.500 lü yıllarda Balkan ve Orta Avrupaya ,Kafkaslar üzerinden Anadolu ya gelen Avar,Bulgar (sonradan Slavlaşan ve zulümleri sebebi ile Bulgar dağının adı Bolkar yapıldı 1920 de)Peçenek,Kuman-Kıpçak (Türkiye de Macar köyleri var.Antalya da Gebiz. Ayrıca Çepniler.Macar devlet adamları Kıpçak Türküyüz diyor veTürk Birliği üyesidirler.) ve Uz lar geliyor.Ayrıca Bizans önce iran -Arap akınlarına karşı Ermenileri Van ve Kilikya ya arkalarına da Balkanlardan paralı asker olarak getirdiği Türkleri yerleştiriyor.Bunlara o sırada zaten Turkopol veya Turkofon diyorlar.Yerel kızlar ile evleniyorlar.Sonra Müslüman Oğuzlar geliyor.1056 da Pasinler deler ama püskürtülüyor,kesiliyor,Hristiyan oluyorlar.Biz Yunus Emre yi 1937 de bastırdık.Bunlar çok önceden Yunus Emre ve Dede Korkut'u bastırmışlar.Biz 1.500.000 kişiden 300.000 olan bu Ortodoks Türkleri vermek istemedik.Ama Llyod George,Lord Curzon Venizalos ısrar etti.Komisyonlar kuruldu.Norveçli Nansen din esası dedi. Bize gönderilen 479.000 için de Türk vardı ama Türkçe bilmeyen Müslümanlarda vardı..Bunun 50.000 i Helen di.Tek kelime deTürkçe bilmiyorlardı.Bursa Başköy ve Marmara kenarına yerleştirildiler.Nerede oldukları da bilinir.Celaliye bunlardan biri.Trakya dan Gagavuz ve Çıtak Türklerini de aldılar.Tutturmuşlar Karamanlı,Kapodakyalı.Helence konuşanların şarkılarını -Türkülerini söylemiyorlar.Bu Ortodoks Türkler diğer Müslümanlar ile beraber oturuyor ve aynı türküleri söylüyor.Çekik gözlü,yuvarlak yüzlü Helen-Yunan asıl olur? Helen yüzü bellidir.Müzelerde heykellere ,kiliselerde ikonlara baksınlar.
İmam Baildi dan başla bütün yemekler ve türküler Bizans dan kalmışmış Yunanmış da Türkler baskı yapmış ,onlarda Türkçe öğrenmiş safsatası.Baskı olsaydı,Sırp,Yunan vs kalırmıydı? th-cam.com/video/3lmqAqaIFe8/w-d-xo.html
I dont really know greek all too well but from what i could read from that fountain was quite legible
This is so false their is no evidence that turkic people in byzantine empire used greek alphabet, on the other hand their is evidence of armenians and jews speaking only turkish and using their respective alphabetic script in the same region that karamanlides greeks lived under ottoman rule.
@@dimitrisk.2443 There are tons of evidences of Turkish Christians using Greek and Latin scripts with respect to their regions. When you read a Turkish text in Greek alphabet, it means Turks use Greek scripts. Greeks under Ottoman rule wrote Turkish with Persian scripts like everyone else. They used Greek scripts for writing Greek only. You guys keep claiming all the Christians must be non-Turkish and there is no base for that claim. Turks can convert to any religion like everyone else. Get over it.
@@kutukteyiz408 If their is tons of "evidence" as you say why dont you share one?Also by your logic are Armenians and jews who wrote in turkish with their onw alphabet also turks?
Thank you so much for opening up a topic that is very interesting to me! Hello from Berlin/Germany 🎈🎈🎈
Thank you, hello from Türkiye 🙏🏻
I just discovered your channel and am very much enjoying your material -- thank you very much!! Look forward to more of your videos
Thank you so much! I am very happy to hear that :)
Unfortunately, this world; it is very sad that all the world's traditions, cultures, dirty wars (due to bloodthirsty people) have disappeared or are about to disappear from the world heritage. Trying to make people enemies of each other, imposing that they are different from each other, which in essence everyone is the same. peace at home, peace in the world ...
Thank you for showing this and also including ubikh langauge, its rich phonemics
Nice video and Greetings from Greece, I think you forgot to mention the Pontic Greek language which is the biggest immigrating speaking language among the Greek Population here in Greece.
Pontic greek is not extinct. It is still spoken in some pontic speaking muslim towns in Trabzon like Tonya, Çaykara, Of and Surmene. Local speakers call it "Romeika".
th-cam.com/video/-LHhSK5SsYo/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ermansa%C4%9F%C4%B1ro%C4%9Flu
@@yegenek biz yunan değiliz rum rumalı demek aq salağı trabzon gürçü ve lazlar tarafından kuruldu diğer ismi lazika latinlerin istanbulu işgali ile yunan mültecileri trabzona aldık bunlarda dillerini din ve ticaret ile yaydılar biz ağırlıklı olarak kafkas halkıyız
Pontic Greek isn't extinct yet in Türkiye.
Out of all the anatolian greek dialects, pontic seems surprisingly well off in comparison. Though personally my grandma's side didn't pass it on and only speak turkish, unfortunately.
I am a Greek and 1/8 Cappadocian, thank you for this vid.
Come to Cappadocia someday. One of the most beautiful places on Earth, if you ask me. Stay in a cave-hotel for the best experience, and wake up to an enormous breakfast while watching the balloons.
@@lordofbanshees I cannot my friend. This caves were made by my Ancestors. I cannot go to My Homeland, because its Going to see the Ruins of your Ancestors. My Heart couldn't handle the pain of seeing with my own eyes all that was lost. I already think little of you Turks. I would probably hate you even more if I went and I try to be a Good Chistian, without Burning rage in my Heart.
a few inaccuracies both Mlahso and Hertevin are part of the Syriac (Suret/Sureth) language, Syriac is the greek translation of what we call our language in our tongue which is Suret/Sureth which derived from Ashurit which would literally translate to "Assyrianly" due to then fact that when Assyrians adopted aramaic in the 8th century bc we still kept many words from our old language Akkadian. The two dialects you mentioned fall under that umbrella of being Assyrian, "Chaldean" and "Syriac orthodox" are denominations of the Assyrian people just like how Alevis, Alawites and Sufis would still be turks. i'm Chaldean Catholic myself but 100% ethnically and linguistically Assyrian.
Wow, this is a great summary, thank you!
Since I am not a historian but an amateur content creator, I might also make mistakes 😀 But I really appreciate this comment and will pin it for people to see this.
Thanks!
@@turkchap God bless and keep the good work going.
Not all alevites are Turkish. Their is a very large Kurdish Alevi population in Turkey.
keske bu diller olmeseydi anadolunun her sese ihtiyaci var
@@wexqlp3863 Yes true but i was merely pointing to the sects that turks belong to within the islamic religion.
I'm very angry that the Turkish Government send the Karamanlides to Greece. They're origin is Turkish and they only spoke Turkish, it's not logically that you also send them. There villages were very Close to my village.
Amazing video ❤👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you, glad you liked it!
As a turk, this makes me quite sad
Very nice video. At first I thought you were going to talk about the hellenised ancient Anatolian Indo-Europeans (e.g. Phrygians, Lydians etc). I was not acquainted with the peoples you mentioned. Tebrikler arkadaşım, yeni bir abonen var
Thank you 😊
Çok güzel bir video. Başarılarının devamını dilerim.
Böyle yorumlar ile daha da güzel oluyor. Teşekkürler!
Also Latin, Hittite, Akkadian, and Mesopotamian, some therized there were speakers of Etruscan or something similar to it. Also countless other languages preserved by the Hittites
Karamanlides are turkish who are speaking turkish but the alfabet is greek. These people are christian and came this region before the other muslim turkish people arrived there. Unfortunalely they were sent to greek 1923 due to their religion christian, they are not greek, they are %100 percent real turkish.
Οι Καραμανλίδες είναι οι Ρωμιοί χριστιανοί ορθόδοξοι της Καππαδοκίας .Οι Καραμανλίδες μιλούσαν είτε καραμανλίδικα(ελληνική διάλεκτο) και ορισμένοι τουρκικά (με την καραμανλίδικη προφορά).Eίμαστε ΡΩΜΙΟΙ Καραμανλίδες έλεγαν οι παππούδες μας και η καταγωγή μας είναι από την Καππαδοκία. Αυτό δεν πρόκειται να το ξεχάσουμε ποτέ και δυστυχώς μας έδιωξαν οι Τούρκοι από την πατρίδα μας.
Also, Greeks sent back Turks from Greece to Turkiye. So it wasn't one way deportation. It was an exchange agreement between two countries.
@@MUFY-THE-CAT Canım mübadeleyi biliyoruz, yaşadık. Giritliyim ben.
And me pontics@@burakkarayel4465
Karamanlides aren't turkish they were byzantine greeks tha just where linguistically turkified, that was the case for armenians and jews in the same region
08:04, It's written on a fountain. I can't read the 'ΣΑΧΜ=ΟΥΛ' part, but the Latin alphabet version of the other part is 'Hayrat, İçenlere afiyet, yaptırana rahmet,' which means 'Charity: Blessings to those who drink, mercy to the benefactor.
Umarım kanalında başarılı olursun Yabancılara ilginç Ülkemizi anlatmak çok önemli.
Teşekkür ederim. Amacım da bu, ülkemizin zenginliklerini, saklı hazinelerini ve bilinmeyen yönlerini tanıtmak.
Longer I stay in Turkey and listen to Turkish, it sounds so close to Korean. Linguists correlate them as altaic asian languages.
Very interesting video. Thankyou 😊
Glad you liked it, thanks!
Some ethno-religious groups, when outnumbered by Turks, did accept the Turkish vernacular through a gradual process of acculturation. While the Greeks of the Pelo ponnese, Thessaly, Epirus, Macedonia, Thrace, and the west Anatolian lit toral continued to speak and write in Greek, the Greeks of Cappadocia (Karaman) spoke Turkish and wrote Turkish in Greek script. Similarly, a large majority of the Armenians in the empire adopted Turkish as their vernacular and wrote Turkish in Armenian characters, all efforts to the contrary by the Mkhitarist order notwithstanding. The first novels published in the Ottoman Empire in the mid-nineteenth century were by Armenians and Cappodocian Greeks; they wrote them in Turkish, using the Armenian and Greek alphabets. In areas heavily populated by Turks, vernacular Turkish naturally be came the lingua franca even without state-sponsored promotion or imposition.
The "circassian people map" includes Bashuyuk (Konya) and some other villages in Eskisehir. Those villages speak Karachay, a Turkic language of northern Cuacasia.
there are circassian villages in eskişehir.
An excellent study of Cappadocian Greek, with a good text collection, is in Dawkins, R.M. 1916. Modern Greek in Asia Minor. A study of dialect of Silly, Cappadocia and Pharasa. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. Available online.
heh, just when i thought that i was knowledgeable on the midde east, you come and effortlessly prove me wrong. thank you for that!
Glad you liked it, thank you!
One point I would like to add is that Türkiye can’t be %100 categorized as Middle East. Parts of the country are very European, some parts are Mediterranean and some parts resemble Middle East.
Cappadocian Greeks, suffered heavily brcause they were forced to leave their homeland. They were known for their devotion to the Orthodox faith. On the 12th of July we celebrated our beloved Saint Paisios, who was brought to Greece from Cappadocia as a bady during the exchange.
Wow, this channel is so underrated!!!
VERY INTERESTING ... TURKEY HAS SO MUCH VARIETIES OL PEOPLE LANDSCAPES AND SO ON ... INCREDIBLE
Very interesting and a very well done video! I'm a Canadian of Greek heritage (family from Peloponese in Greece) and I will be in Greece in the fall. I would like to travel to the Pontus region (Black Sea) and Trabzon to explore the culture and history. Do you have any suggestions of any cultural tours or guides that could help me? I'm a 63 year old woman traveling alone and have limited Greek! Good luck with your channel and I will subscribe.
Thank you! I am glad you liked it and thanks for subscribing 🙏🏻
Unfortunately, I am not aware of any cultural tours nor guides. But Black Sea region is really fascinating.
Enjoy your travels and good luck!
You could try talking to Savvas Kalenteridis. Look him up here, he has a channel. He also has (or had?) a publishing house, among others publishing travel guides for the Pontus region. His family background is from there, he has been there countless times, speaks turkish as well as pontic greek etc. He may be able to help, although I'm not sure they published anything in english. They're more into politics and geopolitics these days, but they should have their old tourist publications. In any case, he knows the region very well. They used to have a travel guides bookstore right in the centre of Athens, somewhere around Syntagma square. Some ten years ago it was there at least. Good luck & thanks to the channel for the nice video. And make sure you enjoy your greek holiday, I'm half moraitis too, from Laconia on my father's side and I'm even based down here at the moment.
Edit: adding that Infognomon Books is the name of the publishing house.
I can help you for Trabzon, I am from Tonya in Trabzon, I am living in Thrace but I have too much my friends and family in Trabzon... My Mother living in Tonya (alone). You can stay with her, Best regards...
@@ΠέτροςΟικονομάκος Infognomon
@@cengizacici6036 İşte bizim Türk misafirperverliği ❤️
The highest number of consonants in a language without clicks. Taa has 164 consonants and 111 are clicks.
Greetings from Romania,even if we were bitter enemies throughout the centuries you are a very pleasant,knowledgeable and nice Turk!
Greetings from Türkiye! Thank you friend :)
Ulan ne kadar guzel video yapmissin,eline saglik abi.
Teşekkürler reis. Sağol varol🙏
Very interesting!
Thank you, glad you liked it 🙏🏻
You can subscribe to see similar videos in future 😃
@@turkchap subscribed🙂
Çok güzel içerik. Teşekkür ederiz.
İzlediğiniz için ben teşekkür ederim. Selamlar.
Hittite? Lydian? These were spoken all over anatolia once… until greek invaders ended all these civilisations. You should’ve mentioned those.
I can’t really fit all of them in one video but I am planning to make a part 2 of this video. Thanks for the comment, I will also mention those 🙏🏻
@@turkchapHattice’yi sakın unutma😅
@@papazataklaattiranimamAdam onunla ilgili kaynaklara nasıl ulaşsın.
When was that? 3000 years ago? And how do you know that the Greeks ended this civilisations? I would rather say that this was a gradual development. Whereas the Young Turks and Kemal Atatürk intentionally discriminated and deracinated these antique cultures. And this can be found in many history books. But I honestly believe that no culture stands above another.
GREEK INVADERS?AS WE KNOW GREEKS WERE THERE 3.500 YEARS.MONGOLIANS CAME SINCE 900 AND THEN..SLOWLY MASSACRED ALL THE OTHERS THAT WEREN'T ISLAMISTS-MUSLIMS. Which school did you gratuated?
As a chaldean born in Baghdad, in Al Risafa district and then moved to Al-karada among muslim shiaat , inthe 1950s,my parents came from the city of Tel-keppie, which mean in Aramaic =stonesHill because of abig hill next to the city which used to be the old city that was abandoned over a thousand years ago because of disease and death, in Mosul, northern of Iraq, about five kilometers from mosul.
We my parents move to the capital Baghdad in
1920s-1930s, for better life away from muslim and dumb arabs.
Today we left Iraq , and live in europe in marsilia, france about 15thosands, and australia about Ten thosands, and in california ,san diego about 20thousands, and Detroit, Michgan, U. S. A., about one hundred thousands, we all speak
Aramaic, and Arabic,
I personally speak, five languages, Greek, Arabic, English, Russian, And My wonderful Aramaic babylonian syriac, read and write. 🇮🇶🇮🇶🇮🇶🇮🇶✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️ we are Roman catholic,
ابو كرستوفر الكلداني،
I am also proud of my cousins the Assyrians
And the syriacs christians of syria and lebanon.
May our great nations live for ever.
خايا امتن سورياياثا، ماري ايشوع امشيحا بت ناطر وشابق كلهين يالي اذ اومتا، يالي اذ كلدو واثور.
بارخ ماران ايشوع امشيحا ،بشما اذ بابا وبرونا ولروحا اذ قوذشا خا الاها آمين.
Hi im kurd and i lovd syriacs
Can you please make a video of the lost languages in south America?🤔
Sounds like a cool idea. I will look into it. There must be very interesting stuff from the Mayans, Incans, Aztecs and many more old civilizations.
At the time of the Greek offensive against Turkey in 1921, priests and members of the congregation of some Karamanli communities sent telegrams to the Turkish Great National Assembly (the provisional government of Mustafa Kemal) claiming that they were patriotic Turks, distancing themselves from the patriarchate's involvement in the Greek national cause, and stating that they wished to replace Greek with Turkish as the language of their liturgy." Dur ing discussions over the drafting of the 1923 exchange agreement with Greece concerning the compulsory exchange of populations, the Turkish authorities considered exempting the Turkish-speaking Christians from the exchange. It was finally decided that the exclusive criterion for deciding which people would stay in their homelands and which were to be expelled should be religion rather than language, and the Karamanlides living elsewhere than Istanbul were removed to Greece. However, a significant proportion of the Orthodox Christians who have remained in Istanbul till the present day come from a Karamanli background.
In their new homeland the Karamanlides faced prejudice and discrim ination from many native Greeks because they spoke the language of the age-old enemy of Hellenism; indeed, they were sometimes taunted with the allegation that they were of Turkish racial stock. During the Metaxas dictatorship some of them were punished as a result of the law forbidding the speaking of any language but Greek in public. Nikos Marantzidis writes that the myth of the Turkish-speaking Christians from western Pontus now living in Greece is that the Turks had forced them to choose between abandoning their language and renouncing their religion. whereupon they decided to preserve their religion. They thus saw their speaking of Turkish as an acquired characteristic forced upon them by the conquerors, at the expense of their Greek language. This myth resolved the antithesis between the two poles of nationality: language and religion.45
2010. Language and national identity in Greece 1766-1976. Oxford: Oxford University Press, p.305.
In your first paragraph you are referring to a very small minority led by an opportunist priest (Papa Eftim) hoping for his own advancement and the of his followers at the expense of the Karamanlides as a whole.
Every anatolian greek that was sent to greece faced discrimination from the native greeks and was called of turkish racial stock not only karamanlides
great video.
Thanks!
Nice work.
It's interesting to mention that the 1st written record of Capadocian Greek was written by Persian Poet Molana jalal adin mohamad Balkhi Rumi or simply known as Rumi or Roman
THANK YOU VERY MUCH
Atatürk expressed his sadness for the people of Karaman, who had to go to Greece after the decision taken in the Treaty of Lausanne. They were the people of this geography and their hearts were with their Muslim neighbors.
bencede cok yanlis karar oraya giden ninede videoda yasadiklari uzucu hadiseleri anlatmis
Yes, a great pity their neighbours turned against them.
@@maralfniqle5092 you imply a some kind of pogrom or exile took place. That was a population exchange that was signed by both Greece and Turkey. It was the two states not "neighbors forcing one another out".
@@maralfniqle5092 it was also pity that the greeks in anatolia started to kill their turkish neighbours when greece occupied western region of turkiye thinking that they will get what they want. you greeks always love looking from a victim-card perspective and dramatize themselves.
@@sarubet8725 what kind of agreement is it when one invades the other, and when he loses, his population becomes an ethnic target by the now winners ? As for the "exile", if that's not an exile, I don't know what it is. Half of my family is from Bursa/Broussa, but when we arrived in Greece, even though we spoke Greek, we faced huge racism. My grandfathers homeland was never Greece, but they were forced to leave or die. I call that an exile. As said by Greek speaking Muslim from Crete, who was displaced to Anatolia, the exiled were enemies and strangers in both places...
Very nice video! I'm Greek but from the peloponnese area. So i have no connection with the Greeks of Anatolia. It's interesting to see how modern day Turks have many similarities with modern day Greeks. Especially the ones that come from the regions mentioned in your video. As well from the Aegean side. It proves that many Turks have Greek DNA. Didn't mean to write something that may offend your viewers but it's my personal opinion.
@@turkmuhendis
Original Turkish DNA ist Asian. Don't see much Asian features in the appearance of modern Turks. So in my opinion it's much likely that modern Turks have more Greek or Anatolian DNA than the other way around.
But you are right that the Ottoman Empire was also the state of the Greeks (Eastern Romans)
The language of the 𐱅𐰇𐰼𐰰 people
Su=water /水 (Suv)=fluent-flowing Suvu> Sıvı=fluid, liquid
Suv’up =liquefied
Suv-mak= to make it flow onwards/ upwards >suvamak
Suy-mak= to make it flow over
Süv-mek= to make it flow inwards
Sür-mek= to make it flow ON something (sürdürmek/sürtmek/sürünmek/sürülmek)
Su-arpa>Surappah(chorba)=soup /Surup(şurup)=syrup /Suruppat(şerbet)=sorbet /Surab(şarap)=wine /Surah(şıra)=juice
Süp-mek= to make it flow outwards / (Süp-ğur-mek)>süpürmek=to sweep
-mak/mek>(umak/emek)=process/ exertion (machine/ mechanism)
-al =~obtain through
-et =~ do / make
-der = ~set /provide
-kur=~ set up
-en=own diameter /about oneself
-eş=each mate (each other/together or altogether)
-la/le = ~make this by it /do it this way
Say-mak= to make it flow drop by drop /one by one from the mind = ~ to count ~ to deem (sayı=number) (bilgisayar=computer)
Söy-mek= to make it flow out of the mind > Söy-le-mek= make the sentences flow through the mind = ~to say, ~to tell
Sev-mek= to make it flow/pour from the mind to the heart = to love
Söv-mek=to say whatever's on own mind=swearing
Süy-mek= to make it flow through (Süÿt> süt= milk/ दूध)
Soy-mak= to make it flow over it/him/her ( to peel, ~to strip, ~to rob )(soygan>soğan=onion)
(Soy-en-mak)>soyunmak=to undress (Suy-ğur-mak)>sıyırmak= ~skinning , ~skimming
Siy-mek= to make it flow downwards / to pee Siÿtik>sidik= urine
Say-en-mak>sanmak= ~to pour from thought to the idea (to arrive at a guess)
Sav-mak= ~to make it pour outward /put forward / set forth in >sav=~assertion
(Sav-en-mak)>savunmak=to defend (Sav-ğur-mak)>savurmak=to strew it outward (into the void)
(Sav-eş-mak)>savaşmak=to shed each other's blood >savaş= war
savuşmak=to get scattered altogether outright > sıvışmak=~run away in fear
Sağ-mak= ~to make it pour tight >Sağanak=downpour > Sahan=the container to pour water
Sağ-en-mak>sağınmak= ~to spill from thought into emotions> ~longing
Sek-mek= to go (by forcing /hardly) forward /on it
Sak-mak = to grasp/ hold (back by forcing /hardly) (sakar=clumsy)
Sak-en-mak>sakınmak =~to ponder hard/hold oneself back/beware
Sok-mak= to take/put it (by forcing) inward
Soğ-mak=to penetrate (forced) > Soğurmak=~ make it penetrate inward /~to suck
Sök-mek= to take/put it (by forcing) from the inside out (~unstitch/rip out)
Sık-mak = ~to press (by forcing) inward / ~squeeze (Sıkı= stringent)
Sığ-mak= ~fit inside (Sığ-en-mak>sığınmak= ~to take shelter)
Süz-mek=~to make it lightly flow from top to bottom (~to filter, strain out)
Sez-mek=~to keep it mentally flowing gently (~to perceive, to intuit)
Sız-mak=~to get flowed slightly (~to infiltrate)
Suŋ-mak=to extend it forward (to put before, to present)
Süŋ-mek=to get expanded outwards (sünger=sponge) (süngü=bayonet)
Sıŋ-mak=to reach by stretching upward / forward
Siŋ-mek=to shrink (oneself) by getting down or back (to lurk, to hide out)
Söŋ-mek=to get decreased by getting out or in oneself (to fade out)
Tan= the dawn /旦
Tanımak= to recognize (~to get the differences of)
Tanınmak = tan-en-mak= to be known/recognized
Tanıtmak = tan-et-mak=to make known /to introduce
Tanışmak=tan-eş-mak= to get to know each other =(to meet for the first time)
Danışmak= to get information through each other
Tanılamak=tanı-la-mak= diagnose /to identify
Tıŋı= the tune (timbre) /调
Tıŋ-mak=to react verbally >Tınlamak=responding /~to take heed of
Tıŋı-la-mak= to get the sound out
Tiŋ-mek=to get at the silence >Dinmek= to get quiescent
Tiŋi-le-mek=to get the sound in >Dinlemek= to listen / 听
Theng> Denk =~equal / sync / 登克 Denge =balance
(Tenğ-mek)>Değmek=to touch each other (at the same point,position or level)/ ~to be of equal-level/ being worth)
(tenger> değer=sync level) (teğet= tangent) (teng-yüz>deŋiz=sea)
eş değer=equivalent > eş diğer= equal to (each other)
Deng-en-mek>değinmek = to mention / touch upon
Deng-eş-mek>değişmek =to turn into something else equivalent /to get altogether a change
Deng-eş-der-mek>değiştirmek =to change it /~exchange
Çığ (chuw) = snowslide / 雪崩
Çığ-ğur-mak =çığırmak= ~to scream /~read by shouting
Çağır-mak= calling / inviting / 称呼 / 邀请
Çığırı > Jigir > Şiir = Poetry / 诗歌
Cığır-la-mak > Jırlamak > to squeal /~shout with a shrill voice
Çığırgı >Jırgı> Şarkı = Song / 曲子
Çiğ (chee)= uncooked, raw / 生
Çiğne-mek =to chew / 咀嚼
(Çiğnek) Çene =chin / 下巴
Çiğ (chie)= vapor drop, dew / 汽 , 露 (çi’çek=flower/ çi’se=drizzle)
Taş = the stone (portable rock)/大石头
Taşı-mak = to take (by moving) it / to carry
Taşı-et-mak =Taşıtmak> to have it transported
Taşı-en-mak =Taşınmak> to move oneself to a different place
Kak-mak=to give direction (Kakğan=which one's directing>Kağan>Kahan>Han =leader) (Baş-khan>Başkan=president)
Kak-der-mak>kaktırmak= ~to set aside
Kak-al-mak>kağılmak =to be oriented via/ to get fixed anywhere >kalmak= to stay
Kağılık-mak=to tend upward >kalkmak =to stand up / to get up
Kak-al-der-mak>kağıldırmak>to make it being steered away> kaldırmak = to remove
Kak-en-mak> kağınmak=~to be canted> kanmak / ikna olmak= to ac-know-ledge it's so, to be convinced
Kak-en-der-mak> kağındırmak= kandırmak (ikna etmek) = ~ to trick , (to persuade)
Der-mek=(~to provide) to set a layout by bringing together (der-le-mek= to compile)
(deri=integument, derm)
Dar-mak= to bring into a different order by disrupting the old (tarkan=conqueror)
(tarım= agriculture / tarla= arable field) ( taramak= to comb)
Dar-al-mak>darılmak=getting into a disrubted mood toward someone
Dur-mak= to keep being present (~to remain/~to survive/~to halt on)
(thoru>diri= alive) durabilir=durable (boğa-thor>bahadır=冒頓=survivor-victim>victor hero)
Dur-der-mak> durdurmak= ~to stop
Dür-mek= to roll it up (to make it become a roll) (dürüm=roll of bread)
Dör-mek= to rotate on its axis >thörmek = to mix/ blend (döngü/ törüv=tour) (törüv-giş=tourist) (dörük=blended)
(Thörü-mek)>türemek= to become a new layout/form by coming together in the same medium (tür= kind / type)
(Thörük =created order/form by coming together) >Türk
Töre=order established over time= custom/tradition > (torah=sacred order) (tarih=history)
Thör-et-mek>türetmek= to create a new layout combining= to derive
Thör-en-mek>dörünmek= to rotate oneself / to turn by oneself
Thörünmek>Törn-mek>Döŋmek= to turn oneself (döner=rotary dün=yesterday dünya=world)
(Döŋ-der-mek)>döndürmek= to turn something
(Döŋ-eş-mek)>dönüşmek= to turn (altogether) to something
(Döŋ-eş-der-mek)>dönüştürmek= to convert/ transform
(Edg) Eğ-mek=to turn something the other way or to a curved shape> eğmek= to tilt/ to bend
eğim =inclination
Eğ-al-mek>Eğilmek=to get being inclined/ be bent
Eğ-et-mek>Eğitmek=to educate
Eğir-mek= to make it rotate around itself or turn to another way within a specified time =~ to spin (eğri =curve /awry)
Evir-mek=to make spin around itself or turn it another form in a specified time =~to invert
Devir-mek = to make it overturn (devir=~circuit)
Eğir-al-mek>Eğrilmek= to become a skew / become twisted
Evir-al-mek>Evrilmek= to get a conversion/transformation over time
(evrim=evolution, devrim=revolution, evren=universe,)
Uğra-mak= to get (at) a place or a situation for a specified time> uğramak= drop by/ stop by
Uğra-eş-mak=to stop by (altogether) into each other for a specified time> uğraşmak=to strive/ to deal with
Uğra-et-mak> uğratmak = to put in a situation for a specific time
Öğre-mek=to get (at) a status or a level / to get an accumulation within a certain time
Öğre-en-mek=to get (at) a knowledge or info level at a certain time> öğrenmek= to learn
Öğre-et-mek=to have somebody get (at) a knowledge /info level (at a certain time)= to teach
Türkçe öğretiyorum =I am teaching turkish
İngilizce öğreniyorsun = You are learning english
Öğreniyorsun = You are learning > Öğren-i-yor-u-sen (You’ try to learn)
Öğreniyorum = I am learning
Öğreniyordum = I was learning
Öğreniyormuşum=I heard/realized that I was learning
Öğrenmekteyim=I have been learning / I am in (the process of) learning
Öğrenmekteydim=I had been learning / I was in (the process of) learning
Öğrenmekteymişim=I heard/noticed that I had been learning
Öğrenirim =~ I learn (then) > Öğren-e-er-im (I get to learn)
Öğrenirdim= ~I used to learn / I would learn (~I‘d get (a chance) to learn )
Öğrenirmişim=I heard/noticed I would be learning ( I realized I’ve got (a chance) to learn)
Öğreneceğim= I will learn
Öğrenecektim= I would gonna learn (I would learn)
Öğrenecekmişim=I heard/realized that I would have to learn
Öğrendim = I learned
Öğrenmiştim= I had learned
Öğrenmiş oldum (öğrenmiş durumdayım)= I have learned
Öğrendiydim= I remember having learned /I remember such that I've learned
Öğrenmişim =I realized that I've learned
Öğrendiymişim=I heard that I’ve learned -but if what I heard is true
Öğrenmişmişim=I heard that I've learned -but what I heard didn't sound very convincing
Öğreniyorumdur =I guess/likely I am learning
Öğreniyordurum =I think/likely I was trying to learn
Öğreniyormuşumdur=As if I was probably learning
Öğreneceğimdir= I think that I will probably learn
Öğrenecektirim=I guess/likely I would gonna learn
Öğrenecekmişimdir=As if I probably would have to learn
Öğrenecekmiştirim=Looks like I probably would have learned
Öğrenmişimdir = I think that I have probably learned
Öğrenmiştirim= I guess/likely I had learned
Turkish world is split in east-west. Most of the people in Turkey belong to western Turks, with the City of Semerkand at the center. Seljuks belonged to western Turks also. After Mongol invasion and again in 1700 demographics of Turkistan changed. Most people in Modern Turkey came through Caucasus or through Iran. Ottomans confederated with Crimean Khanate, one of the successors of Golden Horde. There is significant mixture of Tatar and Kipchak elements. Nomadic Turks had to marry outside of their clan. Possibly, they may have opted for local woman during the initial stages of invasion. Urban population was devastated because of plague and lawlessness, while
there was a population boom in Turkistan because of improved irrigation. When Ottomans arrived, they were all generals, no soldiers among them. They had to recruit fighting man locally, who may not even be Muslim. Turkish clans rejected and resented
these devshirmes. These may explain the DNA mix. There were Christian Turkish speaking people all around Black Sea, not only Karamanlis. There were Christian and Jewish Turks before 850, when first Bible was translated into Turkish. Karamanlis and others
are most likely not Greek. According to Biruni, Turks were very familiar Greek and Latin literature. They had a library of ancient texts in Semerkant, which was established around 600. This library was sacked by Arabs around 712 and most likely moved to Bagdad.
@@turkmuhendis The Hungarians are white people because the assimilated the local populations. Only their language is Asian. Genetically they are Europeans.
Turks and Greeks do not fall in the same clusters in Genetic PCA's. Also, judging from some of the N haplogroup that can be found in Greece maybe you guys had some Turkopol in you eh?
This is one of the most interesting videos I have seen recently. The languages are man-made and they belong to our natural richness, like living organisms. Because a language is product of human intelligence, it may help to understan how we think.
Do you know how to find the two recordings of Mlahso and Hertevin?
Thank you, my best friend is Assyrian
The two dialects and not languages which were spoken by some Syrian orthodox "Suryani" and the other dialect of the Chaldeans, one dialect is West Assyrian (Assuri) and the other is East Assyrian (Assuri) even if there are some words which may be spoken differently but I am able to understand both dialects . This is interesting, I have never heard nor anyone spoke of these two dialects
I appreciate a lot this very well done video, informative and open minded. I'll treasure it. I perfectly understand of course your choice not to talk about Armeian and Kurdish, it's sad that politics should limit knowledge. Said this, your contribution is great. Beautiful Turkey, I love you.
Thanks, I am glad you liked this video 🙏🏻
Why would I choose not a talk about Kurdish and Armenian? These are not extinct languages and this video is about extinct languages.
I don’t discriminate against cultures and love all the people, languages and cultures of Turkey 🇹🇷❤️
I will make many more videos about these in the future 😀
@@turkchap I agree. keep going.
The woman you show in the Karamanli segment isn't Karamanli and she isn't speaking Karamanlidika. She's Pontic Greek from Trabzon and speaks standard Greek mixed with Pontic Greek. Foreign scholars that visited the region of Karamanli Greeks in the 1800's mention that at that time their language still had a number of Greek words that vanished later. The Greco-Turkic soldiers of the that region that you mention known as "tourkopoloi" (sons of Turks) part of them were transported to the region of Thrace during Ottoman times and part of them converted to islam and was assimilated by the other Turks. Genetic studies also show that Karamanlides don't have input from Central Asia like the Turkish Muslims of that region have.
as i am half turkish, i was able to understand what the woman was talking, thus it sounds like regular turkish to me.
@@crystaldeathflower I'm not talking about the second old woman in that segment. She was clearly speaking Turkish. I'm talking about the first one.
@@georgekech4903 @sunmoonlightning789 sorry my mistake!
Modern nations can suppress language and/or ethnic identity in the name of uniformity and real or imaginary national security. Thank God however they cannot achieve such uniformity in cuisine and music, two forms of art. 😊
Literally had no clue that these existed
I live in turkey...
Güzel ülkemizde inanılmaz kültürel hazinelerimiz var ❤️
@@turkchap fr
hocam odan sanırım çok mobilyalı değil yankı yapıyor sesin tablo gibi şeyler asarak çözsen süper olur
Şu an oda daha dolu. Bir de ses editini daha iyi öğrendim 🙏 Son videolarda sesin daha iyi olması lazım
As someone whose ancestors lived in Anatolia and during Ottoman -Safavid wars moved to Iran , I can say that as far as historic research is concerned one must speak of Anatolia instead of Turkey , bear in mind that Ottoman elite did Not identify themselves as Turkish and nor did call their territories Turkey , considering the fact that even Seljuqs army who arrived in Anatolia around 1000 had already been mixed with many non-Turkic muslim peoples .
Ottoman legitimacy drew on Turco-Mongol and Islamic precedents. Fleischer sees the Ottoman Empire as a 'unique, if not aberrant, phe nomenon' in Islamic history due to its emphasis on natural justice and the central role of the Ottoman dynasty as rulers of a defined geographic sphere (Fleischer, 1986: 253). The sixteenth-century Ottoman theorists Ebu's-Su'ud and Mustafa Ali upheld broadly similar theses for the legiti macy of the Ottomans which included the manipulation of their lineage to indicate their descent from Oghuz, the eponym of the Ghuzz Turks, their inheritance of Muslim lands from the Seljuk Turks and their dedica tion to justice, understood as a religious, universal concept (Imber, 1997: 73-4; Fleischer, 1986: 282, 287-8). Although the Ottomans adopted a more obviously Islamic profile after their conquest of the Arab lands, including the holy cities of Mecca and Medina, in the early sixteenth century, a distinction remained between religion and the state/dynasty (din-ü-devlet) which was also apparent in the Ottomans' dual legal sys tem based on the Shari'a and 'state' kamun, despite the close partnership between the two.
Secular attitudes derived from the Turco-Mongol heritage were also qualified by the tendency among Ottoman political theorists of dis cussing international relations using the medieval dar al-islam/dar al-harb formulation and its concomitant, jihad or ghaza. This reflected the ori gins of the Ottoman Empire as a Turkic warrior principality on the frontiers of Byzantium which led generations of Ottoman sultans to style themselves 'holy warriors' (ghazis) until the Empire's demise in the 1920s. Their conquest of the Balkans and Aegean peninsula was legitimised in terms of jihad against the infidel, and their conquest of Constantinople was celebrated as the culmination of the Islamic conquests which had begun in the seventh century. In much advice literature of the sev enteenth and eighteenth centuries, the need to continue the jihad and expand the Ottoman Muslim domain in order to restore the inner vital ity of the Empire is a recurrent trope alongside more practical suggestions for reform.
International Society and the Middle East: English School Theory at the Regional Level (Palgrave Studies in International Relations) 2009th Edition by B. Buzan (Editor), A. Gonzalez-Pelaez (Editor) p.55
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The language of the Gagauz people is becoming increasingly endangered! They are adopting Russian instead. 😢
There were 896 mosques in present Greece, today there is none!
There were thousands of orthodox hurches in Anatolia today very very few and to function they need to take permission
Both countries are not doing the right thing! Right thing is, working on to build trust for both sides for the future generations!
@@plutopluto6699 there are 256 masques in Greece
Hi Dimitri,
I do apologize.. I meant no Mosques in Athens not in Greece.
Ubykh is actually still spoken in Rahaniya in Northern Israel, nobody knows this I know since I am from the area
Great video a small note is all anatolian Greeks faced racism from native Greeks and had a hard time settling in Greece not only karamanlides.
Thanks for sharing this. Population Exchange caused many sad stories for both sides. It must be a huge change to leave your home and go to lands that you have never been before.
Interesting video. I would like to ask about Turkish people in General. Are they just turkified mix of indo-europeans(balkan slaves or refugees, greeks,Anatolians) or just Anatolians or are they mostly descendants of the turkic nomads that came from Asia? (that were already heavily mixed with indo-European people before they arrived).
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I think all cases apply. We Turkish people are very mixed and that’s we are quite diverse in looks. I have Turkish friends who are blonde and have blue eyes, friends who look Mediterranean, friends who look central Asian, and friends who look similar to Arabs and Iranians.
That’s why it’s hard to categorize really. As our founding father Atatürk said “How happy is he/she who can say I am a Turk”. It’s not about your ethnic origins but the feeling and seeing yourself as a Turkish person.
That’s the best way I can explain. Hope it helps!
@@turkchap
My dna is English ,
Greek Cypriot & Anatolian & French.
I am blue eyed from cypriot side.
The whole world is mixed
there is no 'pure' dna left.
I am free to do as my
Conscience bids as are you.
Now only the sacred impulse
of Conscience divides between
those who it have & those whom
have not (or will not listen ).
Thankyou for this wonderful
insight . Great video ❤
Even your Indo-Europeans themselves had barely Yamnayan DNA too…
@@epiphanyx3705 Thank you 🙏🏻😀
yattim sagima dondum soluma gibi bir duayi kucukken ninem ogretmisti teyze balkan turkleri gibi konusuyor
Did I hear right?? A language with 80 consonants really exists?
Yes haha
i'm hemshin armenian which is group of armenians in Rize,Trabzon and artvin hemshin language went extinct you've should count it too.
Hey dude thanks for the comment!
Actually I mentioned the Hemshin language in this video th-cam.com/video/E1VQRn-ohhs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Bm1nP79gTyXSz9be
It’s not extinct but a dying language afaik. Do you speak Hemshin?
@@turkchap nope i dont know
You should add Ladino as well, it will be an extinct language soon as the Jewish population in Turkey is decreasing and speakers of this language mostly over 70.
I will make a video for the endangered languages and will add Ladino as well. Thanks!
For a long time it was thought Arabic originated in Yemen. But more evidence show that history was distorted by early Muslims for ideological reasons and in fact Arabic started as a dialect of Aramaic in the Levant bordering Turkey. Another dialect of Aramaic is Syriac. This all makes much more sense because of the closeness between them.
Arabic is not a dialect of Aramaic where are you getting your sources from
It is not really a dialect from Aramaic, more like an indirect descendent.Syriac the direct descendant and at the same time a dialect of Aramaic has indeed alot influenced Arabic.
@@baudouiniv9766 First recorded identification of Arabs and Arabic is in the Syrian desert, 9th century BC and that was long before their presence in Arabia. From what I read some referred to Aramaic and Arabic as sibling languages and some refer to Syriac and Arabic are both descendants of Aramaic.
The truth is muslims scholars lie as they prefer to show Arabic as independent language not influenced by others and originated in Arabia. And also Assyrian nationalists and many Christians also lie and prefer to disassociate themselves from Arabic and Arabs. Arabic and Aramaic languages were both present in the same area for 1500 years before Islam
How many people in Turkey are really Turkish in origin? The language came from the Steppes but I imagine most people are still of Anatolian origin. Have there been any studies into this?
indeed, Anatolian Turks have %50-60 native anatolian heritage with little Turkic touch. Also we shouldnt forget the hellenic dna that we have.
my friend turkish name of nation turkic race there is a difference everyone is turkish but not everyone is turkic
@@II-ug8ji Is it true Turkic people are Asiatic in appearance? Even in Azerbaijan this is not common. So is Turkish just a language?
There are around 50-55 million ethnic Turks in Turkey.
@@kubhlaikhan2015roto-Turks were Asiatic looking people from Siberia. They used to have big head, wide face, gigachad chin, gobid phenotype etc.
There is also “judeo-aramaic” which is the main language of the kurdish jews.
When you make a content about anatolia, such a pity that, the greeks come immediately thinking that the content was created to praise and holify them. Unfortunately things do not change even years passed, they don't learn from the history. They still think all christian turks are greeks :(
I just care about making videos about the cultural treasures, interesting facts and beauties of beautiful Türkiye 🇹🇷❤️
I don’t care about the rest of the petty arguments.
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Teşekkürler, selamlar. İzlediğiniz için teşekkürler.
l feel, l understand the man who talks at 3:00 . Similiar to turkish. WoW.
While some of the Greek subjects were converting to Islam. It is interesting that the Karamanlides under Turkish rule adopted only the Turkish language and did not change their religion. They were probably already Turks. The Turks communities had different religious beliefs. (Manism, Christianity, Buddhism, Tengrism, Shamanism and the religion of Moses) The prayer of the Karmanlı grandmother "I slept on my right, I got up on my left" was repeated by the Kızık tribe, including my mother, and by the Avşar (Karaman people) tribe, including my father. I am 47 years old, I remember my grandparents' prayers. In addition, our historians now accept that the Analodu Turks became Islamized "in today's sense" after the 17th century. (Alevi and Bektashism were more common) Even if they said they were Muslims, they still had tengri beliefs, some still did not know how to "pray". Over time, many peoples living in the Ottoman lands converted to Islam. Later on, they became Turkic in time and formed kinship with the Turks. Therefore, Turkishness is not only an ethnicity, but also a language and a culture. If there are Greek or Bulgarian among our ancestors, I feel proud as if I was proud of my Turkish ancestors. A few fascists or Turkish enemies cannot decide what my identity or that of other Turks will be. You won't find an Aryan race in Mesopotamia, you idiots. There is no pure race in the Balkans and Greece either. There is no such thing in the world. Do you know the Galatians (Celts) who settled in Thrace, the Balkans, the Black Sea coasts and Anatolia? Or do you know the Hittites who came from the Caucasus and spoke Chechen? many more communities. They are still among us and now they are modern Turks.
Sana tamamen katılıyorum bizi birleştiren peygamberin ümmeti olmamız ve bütün müslümanların kardeş olmasıdır ordumuzda Mehmetçik peygamberin ordusu ona olan sevgimiz den gelir
benim annemde karamanlı nenenin söylediği duayı söylüyordu yemin ederim artık söylemiyor ama yeni nesil eski kültürümüzü kaybediyoruz
@@zekaigundogdu2468bizi Müslümanlık değil Türklük birleştiriyor yalnız. Ümmetçilikten bize gelen tek bir fayda söyler misin?
Talas savaşında Türkler Araplara müslümanlarla beraber olduğu için yardım etti Alparslan malazgirtte Müslümanlık adına zafer diledi fatih Sultan Mehmet peygamberin ovgusune Mazhar olmak için İstanbul'u fethetti yavuz sultan selime çölde peygamber yol gösterdi Mısır'da kutsal emanetleri aldı ümmet olmaktan rahatsız olma her insan ölünce toprak olacak bir peygambere tabi olacak bundan rahatsız olma
This is not true while turkic mercenaries existed they were never even close as numerous to form such a large community as karamanlides and their is no evidence that they settled in central anatolia, this is further proven by the dna samples from karamanlides which show that they dont score any turkic admixture but they are identical genetically to other Cappadocian Greeks.Lastly, Armenian and jews in the karaman region also changed their native language to Turkish while they kept their alphabet.
Karamanli Turkish is still alive. You are wrong about this. Now, whichever village you go to in Cappadocia, the people in that village will answer you with a dialect just like your aunt in the video.
Aynen öyle Kayseride, Felahiyede, İncesuda hala aynı ağız konuşuluyor.
@@suleymanpolat8487 biz hâlâ konuşuyoruz yani :)
Ubyk sounds so Iranic! I know it’s not in a related language group but the accent is very similar to Iranian languages.
Salute for Karaman people..
I am really sad for exile of Karamanlides 😢
Kurtuluş Savaşı’nda bize destek vermiş bu vatansever insanların mübadeleye maruz kalması üzücü 💔
@@sunmoonlightning789Nah, they were probably ethnic Turks. At least that's what I want to believe :)
@@sunmoonlightning789 Christian Turks or Turkic people are exist, you know. As mentioned in the video, Christian Turks even served in the Byzantine army. So, what I am trying to say is the perception of "Turk = Muslim" in your head is not quite correct. Also, throughout history, the Turks have been under the influence of many civilizations and have used many alphabets. So, the "alphabet" and "religion" arguments are not very strong. But, maybe you're right. Karamans were a uniqe situation. That's why I wrote "...that's what I want to believe" in my first comment.
Karamanlı Turkish is not lost. It is the substrate language of urban Aegean accents.
8:41 I should add that I was nor just the Karamanlides and the pontic Greeks and the cappadokians faced discrimination I was not because they didn’t speak greek it was just because they were from turkey even the pontic people that spoke greek were cooled Turks and whatever there was a lot of racism against Turks at the time and they so the refugees as nothing more that Turks
The same happens everywhere. Several years ago I was to Kazakstan and had a chance to chat with few Kazakhs. Some of them believe ( I think it is a sortt of nationalistic superstition) that true Kazakhs have green or blue eyes (some really do). They spoke ill about Kazakhs from Mongolia who immigrated to Kazakhstan and call them Mongols - their eyes are dark brown and their traditions are closer to Mongolian ones.
As Arab I know some words of hertevin dialect
Circassian people 😢❤
God bless my chaldean. assyrian and syriac people
Very sorry to say that, but the way things are going at the present time, Turkish is going to be one of those extinct languages within a generation or two to be replaced by Arabic.
The karamanlides are not greeks but turks. One evidence for that is that they have traditions and sayings that even the turks that came later during the seljuk periods do not have but other turkic people have. Also it is quite unreasonable why they wouldnt keep their language when they other greek neighbours were completely fine using it. There couldve been a natural assimilation that happened but that simply doesnt make any sense consideringt the fact that theywere also culturally differnet from both greeks and seljuk turks. In areas where the karamanli lived, there were also armenians besides also turks. armenians were also using their language. not to forget the fact that the language of orthodox church in these regions were always greek. besides cultural evidence of them being of turkic ancestry is that they have central asian stories in their tablet writings. All that makes it impossible to conclude that they are greeks that speak turkish but that they are christian turks. And the karamanli themselves know that very well. the forced resettlement was a huge mistake. not only for the replaced christians of anatolia but also for the muslims of greece. no one talks about them anymore.
My friend I saw an interview by a Greek reporter I thought it was through the Easy Greek channel. They went to Turkey and asked Turkish people what they think about Greece. One man said that his family was from Alexandroupoli and when the exchange happened they were forced to leave and were placed in Turkey, I think in Pontum. Eventually, years later, he visited the village his family originated from. He was sad. Only the people that were forced to leave their houses and their land and their property can have a saying in such tragic events. We can't say anything to them. We failed them, for political mistakes.
Nope. You are mistaken on many counts.
@@Estelleeeeee yes we failed. My family was also misplaced in greece btw. I wish the forced resettlement never happened, now these countries would have had an amazing bond.
@@GeoBBB123 tell me what makes you so confident that you thought such irrelevant comment of yours would contribute to anything?
@@sunmoonlightning789 you act like the romans werent good at forcefully christianizing people. They came to anatolia before the seljuks. Also its not true that turks were fully islamized. I don‘t know how you people invent things like that. Also they wouldnt be the first ones. The bulgarians for example were also turks that came much earlier and then intermixed with thracians and slavs.
Why are the last 2 not translated?
I searched for hours but could not find the translations.
@@turkchap I see,I guess they are almost extinct after all
Im against to relocate the peoples from their own soils
so turkey is composed of turks and turkified people of those languages
Karamanlı people are NOT Turkish-speaking Greeks. They are only CHRISTIAN TURKISH people.
I did not say anything certain brother. I presented two of the common opinions and mentioned their acceptance in the world.
great video, I have a concern about the Capadocian Greeks and is that many of the people from Kapadokia, are descendants from the Gallic tribes that settled down in this region and adopted the Christianity and Greek ways over the time. The expansion of the Greeks was mostly around the coast.
Gallic tribes of mercenaries leaving genetic legacy that long is near impossible. Also, even older the Celtic expansion in Anatolia was around marmara and Bursa. It didnt reach to Cappadocia.
@@sarubet8725 Celts, who migrated to Central Anatolia in the Balkans, settled in Ankara and Cappadocia, which were their main bases, and came under Roman domination with the conquest of Anatolia by the Romans.Over time, they adopted Christianity and the Greek religion with the influence of the Eastern Romans, and with the arrival of the Turks in Anatolia, they became Turkish and Islamized
@@II-ug8ji they were long gone (both geneticly and culturally) whem the Turks came to anatolia.
There were 896 mosques in Greece, today there is none!!!!
Totaly misi formed there are 256 mosques in thrace
What about greek churches in region of Trabzon, for example ?
Cappadocian greek isn't extinct?
nope, their bloodlines still continues but unfortuntely not in Turkey anymore due to Turkish-Greek Exchange Agreement at 1920s... Ofc when u move, u lost your cultural identiy in time, adopting to new enviroment etc
@@Kheliks I mean they were kicked from their homes but their dialect didn't die tho