There’s equal blame here. Kingy’s been directly critical and zeroed in on JHF, and Kane’s been antagonistic and trolling fans that are coming from the criticisms lol
Well to be fair Jason Horne Francis didn’t like being at North Melbourne having a go at a teammate and not working hard enough no wonder why people boo him
@@kevsmagpies1306 bit weird though that people from other teams boo him. I mean booing is a bit weird anyway. Booing someone for something that is unrelated to the game you're watching or you're club is even weirder. I mean Jordan DeGoey is a sex pest, nobody boos him. Taryn Thomas is also a pest no booking. But people are booing Horn Francis because he left another club, lolz that's weird.
@@kevsmagpies1306 I barely know what a hash tag is and wouldn't boo someone because Kane Cornes said too. Lol. I mean that is even more rediculous to me.
Kane Cornes was talking about Horne Francis and he can’t accept it Ken Hinkley should shut up because it was last year the way he handled the situation
I'd call that a 0-0 draw. Although it's interesting how Kane doesn't seem to comprehend how he is viewed in the media and how his profile can drastically influence the severity of a response from opposition fans.
They both have done shit but Kane is not open to the idea that he is partly to blame at all. I remember from memory that it all started with Kane having a go cause I agreed with him at the time. I've got no dog on this fight but I remember Kane firmly as the beginning of this.
Cornes was ABSOLUTELY a key protagonist in all of this, no question. His attempt to rewrite history is pretty lame. At the time of his criticisms he had no idea JHF would end up at PA and he went hard at the kid. I, too, agreed with him. I definitely DON'T agree with booing him every time he goes near the ball, though.
I took from this that Kane is admitting he is partly to blame, to me it seems like Kingy us saying he is 99% to blame. Kane seems open to admit he is partly to blame.
@@travistravis7190 He certainly wasn't the other night on Footy Classified. And although he gave a weak recognition of his share he then kept blaming others much more. JHF said he wanted the extra attention of being the number one pick. I don't like the booing but he has a part to play in it, as do others.
@@jaredburgess8381 things ive heard in media from JHF is him stating he wants to be the best player in the league, saying that as a 19 year old, JHF I believe has more a contributor to the scrutiny than literally any other party involved. I'd boo the guy too if I was at the game....just for the fun of it. Nothing against him...hes probably a great lad
Kingy was definitely wrong to say that it "all started with Kane." I'm pretty sure that people boo JHF because they think he's a sook - because of people like Kingy
JHF said before the draft he wanted the added attention which would come with being the number one pick, he said before playing a game he wanted to be the best player in the AFL, he didn’t carry himself professionally at North, and made the decision to leave knowing the level of scrutiny that would bring onto him. he can’t then have others come out publicly and demand it stop immediately, just because of his age. Kane and King may have some part to play in all of this, but most of it lies with Jason himself, and there’s only one way he’s going to get the footy public back on side, by actually playing good football, consistently, and maybe being humble about it in the process.
You know before port beat the bulldogs last round I never really heard Horne Francis speak publicly and he actually sounded like a good lad to me. Just played a match winning performance. Was thrilled about it. I just got the impression of a young man that just wants to be a really good footballer. If there was a slightly unprofessional side to him at North I mean jeez he never did anything that was really bad at all. He won't get away with bad attitude or things like that at Port anyway. How good was kingy and cornes going at it about it lol. So good.
Was Ken making those comments after the Collingwood, Adelaide, or Sydney games? No therefore it clearly either bothers the club, the player, or both enough for Ken to speak on Jason’s behalf. Now in Ken’s own words let the kid play, and let the fans express their view of him.
I love footy and follow it wherever I can, I never even knew there was some hashtag bath commentry lol. I don't think thousands of people even know what either of these two post on...they living in their own worlds. Listening to this, I am with Kane
But everyone makes a point of commenting on every post he is in that he is irrelevant. So how can someone so irrelevant influence so many people? Plus if 65 thousand are influenced into booing by a hashtag, how weak minded are they?
AFL is a billion dollar industry. Players paid to play, media paid to analyse. It's not suburban footy. If you can't handle getting booed or being criticized in media, go get a 9 to 5
It's also weird how strange and angry football fans are. I went to Hawks vs Cats with a mate. The guys behind us just yelled and berated every player - on their own team! Cats have just won a flag and smacked the Hawks by 80odd and these guys just sat there and whinged and abused and sooked. And they're not outliers. That's the norm. The football is a funny, angry place a lot of the time. Booing a player who left a club that's not yours says more about you and how much of a sad pathetic loser you are than anything else.
I think both have good points but as soon as Kane said he wasn't trolling when he says #icebath it was clear that he couldn't concede. It's a clear troll.
As someone who used to do a bit of radio, it's the biggest rule in radio broadcasting; DON'T SPEAK OVER THE OTHER PERSON! He would have known that it sounds so messy with two people speaking...
Both of these guys played at the top level, both tasted success, both know how much of a honour it was to be able to represent a club at the top level. Can someone please explain to me why these two (especially Kane Cornes) why Jason Horne-Francis only showed this from the night he was drafted up until his second game (round 2 2022)? After that game, week after week he showed less & less effort. He begun arguing with teammates, wouldn’t follow end of game protocols, show up late to training, show less respect week after week, crack the shits for being dropped to the VFL, then tell the club who gave him everything he wanted that he wants to go home. With all of this, how can they not that mad footy fans are not going to respect this kid? Us footy fans do not like watching players who do nothing but sook, whine & complain showing minimal effort. Nothing but facts
When it's causing him more pain why should he? He had to have surgery on both his legs to decompress his arteries and increase blood flow. Remind me again don't ice baths constrict the arteries and decrease blood flow?
Kane wanted to argue about if its reasonable to declare that he was the catalyst for 65K non-North Melbourne fans to boo JHF and instead David was never going to be happy unless Kane was humiliated into submission. Kingy played the man a lot and the more he got angry and emotional the less he listened and then responded to what Kane was actually saying. I don't think David King once conceeded that there was some merit to Kane's points and point of view on the situation. Kane's pot shot about "Kingy's grand final" was also cheap. I think King would've punched KC if they were in the studio together. Will they be friends after this in the future? I can't imagine ever throwing a colleague under the bus the way Kingy threw Cornes.... pretty dick move - especially if you haven't let him know first.
Since he retired from footy, Kane makes a living out of making comments that are often accurate, but at times ludicrous. Kingy can appear arrogant and dismissive, but he always backs up what he says with evidence. He is the unquestionably the smartest analyser in the game and he owned the underprepared Kane several times here.
haha to be honest I don't care about Port or Norf.... but Cornes is absolutely 100% responsible for this. He is trying to pretend he had nothing to do with it but the guy constantly trolls people about the fact Port got him. I mean I have barely watching this Horne-Francis kid and I hope he fails just to shut Cornes up.
what’s funny is that Kane is actually taking responsibility, whereas king- in the pursuit of trying to pin the irrational blame on Kane is merely obfuscating everything he says, clearly just wants to blend in with the crowd and go with the safest route of making Kane the villain, which is a popular narrative for AFL media consumers. Even this comment section laps it up ahahaha. Absolutely no critical thought. Big man Kingy needs to do some liver cleansing get the lead out of his system. Get his hormones straight. Onya Kane
good on ya kingy, clearly footy classifieds made those comments sound like kingy was talking about JHF as a port player. typical garbage from ch9 and if ken was so worried about it why did he not speak up last year when he wasn't a port player.
It’s clear that this was building for sometime. For months I’ve thought that these two don’t like each other now it’s come clear. No chemistry, little digs at each other. Best that this stops before it gets toxic
King, you rubbished Brad Scott in his last couple of weeks at the Roos saying he wasn't committed. Look at what he's doing at Essendon this year. Look at the Roos....
so after this, if JFH continually cops the treatment he has been, cornes has no1 to blame but himself.. absolute child. i cant believe Im siding with Kingy.. #cancelkanekornes
Really enjoyed the conversation gentlemen! However David's call " you'll start arguing with fools"! Nailed it David, he's arguing with you! PS to get some true objectively let's ask Brad Scott a bloke of true integrity what he thinks of King
Kane editing old recorded comments and makoing it look like it was said this year, is nothing short of what this guy gets upto to make a point - he's been called out and shown he's a low level operator - David King is 100% on the money here. Screw you Kane ..... If JHF didn't have a port Jumper on you wouldn't hear from him.
Was surprised by the booing and don’t really agree with it but… I think this is the fans saying they don’t want #1 picks leaving after 1 year and hurting their clubs - think the afl needs to stop this from happening or give their fans voice in other ways
I don't need to listen to this, but if you can tell me who's gonna win the Blues / Saints game.....then I'm in. QUESTION.......Has hypnotherapy been used at club level for certain individuals....and/or could it be an option???? I have a few names that may benefit.
So Kingy was originally trying to distance himself and act like he had nothing to do with it. He then try’s to flip the argument to state Kane was arguing that. Kane repeatedly said he did contribute along with others, he just wasn’t copping that it was purely the hashtag, which of course it wasn’t. Telling everyone the audio from Classified was radio, dodgy. For me both just as culpable but Kane willing to stand by his comments while King tried to stay popular at Kanes expense. Top bloke 👍
No he didn’t it was last year and Cornes did mention the ice bath and fans deserve to boo Horne Francis. When you get ahead of yourself and think your better when you’re not then listen to your teammates
If Kane continues to antagonistic people then don't cry when they bring it back in the form of booing. It's simple. He said he will continue to troll north fans so expect north AND neutral fans tonl troll his golden boy! Can't throw a punch and then cry when one gets thrown back.
5:16 Ok Kingy reckons the Kangaroo supporters are giving JHF a hard time to get back at Kane Cornes 🤦🏻♂️That comment sums up the NMFC 🤦🏻♂️Welcome Home JHF❤️PAFC❤️
It's not hypocrisy Kane, it's a direct comparison of you doing similar at a similar time, and then you try to take Umbridge. Never took issue with what King said when he was in a North Melbourne jumper. FTR I think it's shit form to boo JHF, and these two are both flogs.
It’s a tv show??? Kane, tv , radio and twitter are all types of media, so of course your edit of what David king said (last year I might add), will be replayed dozens of times
Who cares who started it and who was a bigger part. The point is they both contributed towards the issue and as key figures and speakers for AFL they should simply apologise for their part and encourage people to change their behaviour around the JHF issue. Rather than care more about who’s to blame.
It’s not often I agree with Kane Cornes Kane lists about 5 things that have contributed to the drama King: “I’m not interested in any of those things” Then what’s the point of the conversation if you’re just going to dismiss everything Corne says? 😂 King is so dim
please. King keeps saying "you started it, you lit the fire", just scrambling, Kane says yes yes were all involved. King points out Horne Francis almost every game. apparently no other port player has any deficiencies. so many worst players but JHF gets a whole few minutes with clips from king.
So wrong. His only comment this year was when he didn't chase - and a number of journalists made the same comment. He also praised him after his game in Rd 1 and the game last week. He also commented how all of the young Port mids had to step up, not just JHF. That's basically it. Don't worry about facts though 🤣Kane never asked himself why JHF gets booed against other teams? He can't think of any reason? Really?
Both great analysts of the game and both great insights for the fans. They consistently make great points. On the JHF issue though I think both are affected by their admirable allegiances to their former clubs, this made the whole discussion a bit too circular. Also aren’t we all buying into the assumption that the booing is bad? If the fans boo because of what Cornes, Kingy or what anyone says in the media or social media that is just too bad.
10:00 say what you will about Kingy, Kane splicing Audio from last year when JHF was still at North as though it was occurring during his Port days. Pretty slimy.
Why do they keep bringing up the Collingwood fans booing him, didn’t have to do with leaving North. He was booed 2 times and it was because of the free kicks he gave away towards Taylor Adam’s. 🤦🏻♂️
JHF was trying to rough up Tay in round 2. Fans were booing JHF because his conduct was unnecessary in the context. Best of luck for JHF. He looks a player and will have a great career.
I hope the kid becomes a great footballer. I'm more angry at the clubs that when North Melbourne were at their lowest point in decades came to sink the knife in with big-dollar deals for Jason Horne Francis, and the North Melbourne recruiters for not seeing that he was never going to stay, they failed at the interview stage.
North Melbourne had JHF mentored by Tarryn Thomas FFS! That's how much they cared about him! It blows me away how incompetent some of these clubs are with their recruitment processes, their inner club practices, their ridiculous trades and these stupid deals they the club gets saddles with for years and years.
What a childish argument from two grown men.. felt like I was listening to a couple 6 year olds working out who said what first. People are booing a young player and are doing so for their own reason ( I don't think it has anything to do with what these two clowns say in the media) - may not be fair or reasonable but they pay to go and watch the football and can cheer and boo as they please. The more it is talked about the worse it will probably get unfortunately.
These two aside, JHF leaving North was a mess. Footy moves too quick, and the 4 way trade which got him to Port was unbelievable and maybe it’s a sign of what’s to come for the future of the trade period. Can’t wait for the debate in 5-7 years about who won this trade
I'm still staggered that Kane got a gig in footy media. Doesn't bring breakdowns to footy like Kingy does, just rants, negativity and has his volcano. Guy only gets a position because he is so polarizing.
Give it away, Kingy. Enough is enough. No way were the negative views started by Kane. Accept some blame yourself instead of just wanting to dominate the conversation. I hope this is the end to this rubbish.
Last year I was puzzled by Kane Cornes' obsession with Jason Horne-Francis and bagging the kid every chance he got to. Which makes it even worse that Kane talks about him as the greatest superstar in the making now. How about we just let the kid play? And no,I'm definitely not a David King fan,my Dockers got flogged tonight and King is going to rejoice bagging us all week
I can understand a North supporter not having too much sympathy, or even kind feelings for JHF. North "wasted" their first pick on a player, who looked like he just didn't want to be there. It looked like he didn't really want to be in a bottom club, with probably the poorest facilities in the competition. This is a problem with the practice of giving the bottom club first pick, and JHF isn't the first, nor will he be the last.
What are you talking about? If the bottom club doesn't get the top pick then who should? Do you want the same teams at the top every year and the same teams at the bottom?
@@PWD65 Yes I agree, its about equalization. However there remains the problem of the most desirable recruits not wanting to stay at basket case teams. These guys are hungry for both success and to maximise their earnings from the game. That is difficult to achieve when you are playing for the competition easy beats. Maybe we need a rule that you must stay with the team that firsts drafts you for a certain period of time. But think of the restraint of trade issues that could put in motion if implemented.
I think people are booing because he was a number one pick and left after just one year to go home. Is there any precedent for this?: Of course there was going to be media scrutiny. Clubs get that pick as a result of being rock bottom and wooden spooners and to see the kid leave after one year is not a good look particularly using the go home reason. Having said that no doubt North could have handed him better and may have kept him if they did. Regardless I hate the booing, yes fans have every right to boo but I think many of us find it childish and when its relentless;ess and never ending it can have a pretty nasty affect on the player who is just a young man. I always found the booing of Adam Goodes distasteful and cringeworthy.
There’s equal blame here.
Kingy’s been directly critical and zeroed in on JHF, and Kane’s been antagonistic and trolling fans that are coming from the criticisms lol
I think we are all to blame because we are here listening to this nonsense!
Well to be fair Jason Horne Francis didn’t like being at North Melbourne having a go at a teammate and not working hard enough no wonder why people boo him
@@kevsmagpies1306 bit weird though that people from other teams boo him.
I mean booing is a bit weird anyway. Booing someone for something that is unrelated to the game you're watching or you're club is even weirder.
I mean Jordan DeGoey is a sex pest, nobody boos him. Taryn Thomas is also a pest no booking.
But people are booing Horn Francis because he left another club, lolz that's weird.
@@tin-n-tan not really don’t blame them Kane Cornes starts it up and people would say he sooks because he can’t hack it
@@kevsmagpies1306 I barely know what a hash tag is and wouldn't boo someone because Kane Cornes said too. Lol. I mean that is even more rediculous to me.
Been looking forward to this head to head 🗣️🤕😂
Been watching AFL media for about 2 years. Nobody in sports talk can contradict themselves in the same sentence like David King.
Mark Robinson, Kane Cornes and David King are ALL bad. Robinson is a flat liar. King and Cornes are both as guilty as each other.
Dermie can barely string a sentence together, so that doesn't help.
Kane Cornes was talking about Horne Francis and he can’t accept it Ken Hinkley should shut up because it was last year the way he handled the situation
Omg I've been saying the exact same thing for years
@@joeybersa6783 you guys should make out!
I'm team kingy on this one
SEN should of been doing a WrestleMania 17 The Rock v Stone Cold style promo with these twos. This was so good.
These 2 have both contributed to Horne Francis being so disliked. Now that there is booing involved, they both want to wash their hands of it.
No he is disliked because the way he handled himself
@@kevsmagpies1306 lol get over it snowflake
I'd call that a 0-0 draw. Although it's interesting how Kane doesn't seem to comprehend how he is viewed in the media and how his profile can drastically influence the severity of a response from opposition fans.
He does comprehend I think. He's just great at playing the villain and knows it works really well for him.
I think its obvious he knows he's doing it on purpose to create headlines and get clicks..he's getting his bag $$ for him and his family
This reeked of homo-eroticism
But yet basically every comment is about how he is irrelevant and noone pays attention to his opinions?
@@troyjackson3832 there's a lot of comments like that. Must be pretty relevant considering all these people took the time to comment
Kingy does 80% of the talking
“Can you just let me talk please”
KANE 1 - KINGY 0
@@ThatHoodlum19 Kingy 1 Kane 0
I hate hate Port more than any club, but Kane speaks more sense than Kingy.
Kingy needs to eat his words instead of everything in the cupboard
@@lachycummings3765 Kane Cornes was making comments about Horne Francis his backed away from it because he wears a Port Adelaide guernsey
They both have done shit but Kane is not open to the idea that he is partly to blame at all. I remember from memory that it all started with Kane having a go cause I agreed with him at the time. I've got no dog on this fight but I remember Kane firmly as the beginning of this.
Cornes was ABSOLUTELY a key protagonist in all of this, no question. His attempt to rewrite history is pretty lame. At the time of his criticisms he had no idea JHF would end up at PA and he went hard at the kid. I, too, agreed with him. I definitely DON'T agree with booing him every time he goes near the ball, though.
I took from this that Kane is admitting he is partly to blame, to me it seems like Kingy us saying he is 99% to blame. Kane seems open to admit he is partly to blame.
@@travistravis7190 He certainly wasn't the other night on Footy Classified. And although he gave a weak recognition of his share he then kept blaming others much more.
JHF said he wanted the extra attention of being the number one pick. I don't like the booing but he has a part to play in it, as do others.
@@jaredburgess8381 things ive heard in media from JHF is him stating he wants to be the best player in the league, saying that as a 19 year old, JHF I believe has more a contributor to the scrutiny than literally any other party involved. I'd boo the guy too if I was at the game....just for the fun of it. Nothing against him...hes probably a great lad
@@travistravis7190 He'll become a better player more quickly if he learns some humility that's for sure.
Kingy was about to cry. I’m surprised. Both guilty of this.
Kingy was definitely wrong to say that it "all started with Kane." I'm pretty sure that people boo JHF because they think he's a sook - because of people like Kingy
JHF said before the draft he wanted the added attention which would come with being the number one pick, he said before playing a game he wanted to be the best player in the AFL, he didn’t carry himself professionally at North, and made the decision to leave knowing the level of scrutiny that would bring onto him. he can’t then have others come out publicly and demand it stop immediately, just because of his age. Kane and King may have some part to play in all of this, but most of it lies with Jason himself, and there’s only one way he’s going to get the footy public back on side, by actually playing good football, consistently, and maybe being humble about it in the process.
Holy sh-t! That was awesome! What a measured, considered and well-written analysis of the issue!
Yep well said
You know before port beat the bulldogs last round I never really heard Horne Francis speak publicly and he actually sounded like a good lad to me. Just played a match winning performance. Was thrilled about it. I just got the impression of a young man that just wants to be a really good footballer. If there was a slightly unprofessional side to him at North I mean jeez he never did anything that was really bad at all. He won't get away with bad attitude or things like that at Port anyway. How good was kingy and cornes going at it about it lol. So good.
And has he demanded people to stop booing? Ken Hinkley did but has Jason?
Was Ken making those comments after the Collingwood, Adelaide, or Sydney games? No therefore it clearly either bothers the club, the player, or both enough for Ken to speak on Jason’s behalf. Now in Ken’s own words let the kid play, and let the fans express their view of him.
Can I please have that 20 minutes back?
Thank you for the warning. I have only 37 seconds to reclaim.
I genuinely think that Australia would be a better place without Kane Cornes in media
I love footy and follow it wherever I can, I never even knew there was some hashtag bath commentry lol. I don't think thousands of people even know what either of these two post on...they living in their own worlds. Listening to this, I am with Kane
I think Kane is REALLY underestimating the huge effect of social media. Can 30,000 be influenced by it? Yeah definitely.
But everyone makes a point of commenting on every post he is in that he is irrelevant. So how can someone so irrelevant influence so many people? Plus if 65 thousand are influenced into booing by a hashtag, how weak minded are they?
How infuriating would it be trying to talk with Kane? I actually really like both these guys, but Kingy has him here. Kane is acting like a child.
AFL is a billion dollar industry. Players paid to play, media paid to analyse. It's not suburban footy. If you can't handle getting booed or being criticized in media, go get a 9 to 5
It's also weird how strange and angry football fans are.
I went to Hawks vs Cats with a mate. The guys behind us just yelled and berated every player - on their own team!
Cats have just won a flag and smacked the Hawks by 80odd and these guys just sat there and whinged and abused and sooked.
And they're not outliers. That's the norm.
The football is a funny, angry place a lot of the time. Booing a player who left a club that's not yours says more about you and how much of a sad pathetic loser you are than anything else.
No one ever said he can't handle it. Ken hinkley just said it's embarrassing how much people are bagging him
booing a kid every game for no fucking reason is pretty shit house. its not like hes a smiper or a little shit head like ballantyne was
I think both have good points but as soon as Kane said he wasn't trolling when he says #icebath it was clear that he couldn't concede. It's a clear troll.
North Melbournes fault for Jason getting boo’d at a Collingwood game, now I’ve heard it all 😂
Can we all stop saying 'Jason Horne Francis' for like a couple of weeks
'can I finish what i'm saying' and 'let me speak' is such a flex by Kingy
As someone who used to do a bit of radio, it's the biggest rule in radio broadcasting; DON'T SPEAK OVER THE OTHER PERSON! He would have known that it sounds so messy with two people speaking...
Absolute toss bag
Hey guys can we all just chill in the comments and let David King finish? He’s not finished monologging yet, thanks
Both of these guys played at the top level, both tasted success, both know how much of a honour it was to be able to represent a club at the top level. Can someone please explain to me why these two (especially Kane Cornes) why Jason Horne-Francis only showed this from the night he was drafted up until his second game (round 2 2022)? After that game, week after week he showed less & less effort. He begun arguing with teammates, wouldn’t follow end of game protocols, show up late to training, show less respect week after week, crack the shits for being dropped to the VFL, then tell the club who gave him everything he wanted that he wants to go home. With all of this, how can they not that mad footy fans are not going to respect this kid? Us footy fans do not like watching players who do nothing but sook, whine & complain showing minimal effort. Nothing but facts
‘He was given awful medical support.’
‘Have an ice bath.’
JHF: No.
So have an ice bath when the kids got constricted blood vessels, not great medical advice...had to have surgery to fix it , North dropped the ball
When it's causing him more pain why should he? He had to have surgery on both his legs to decompress his arteries and increase blood flow. Remind me again don't ice baths constrict the arteries and decrease blood flow?
@@troyjackson3832 shit this guys got a point
Kane wanted to argue about if its reasonable to declare that he was the catalyst for 65K non-North Melbourne fans to boo JHF and instead David was never going to be happy unless Kane was humiliated into submission. Kingy played the man a lot and the more he got angry and emotional the less he listened and then responded to what Kane was actually saying. I don't think David King once conceeded that there was some merit to Kane's points and point of view on the situation. Kane's pot shot about "Kingy's grand final" was also cheap. I think King would've punched KC if they were in the studio together. Will they be friends after this in the future?
I can't imagine ever throwing a colleague under the bus the way Kingy threw Cornes.... pretty dick move - especially if you haven't let him know first.
Since he retired from footy, Kane makes a living out of making comments that are often accurate, but at times ludicrous. Kingy can appear arrogant and dismissive, but he always backs up what he says with evidence. He is the unquestionably the smartest analyser in the game and he owned the underprepared Kane several times here.
haha to be honest I don't care about Port or Norf.... but Cornes is absolutely 100% responsible for this. He is trying to pretend he had nothing to do with it but the guy constantly trolls people about the fact Port got him. I mean I have barely watching this Horne-Francis kid and I hope he fails just to shut Cornes up.
Whether Kane started it or not, he definitely has brought a whole lot of unnecessary attention to the JHF situation that has only fanned the fire
what’s funny is that Kane is actually taking responsibility, whereas king- in the pursuit of trying to pin the irrational blame on Kane is merely obfuscating everything he says, clearly just wants to blend in with the crowd and go with the safest route of making Kane the villain, which is a popular narrative for AFL media consumers. Even this comment section laps it up ahahaha. Absolutely no critical thought.
Big man Kingy needs to do some liver cleansing get the lead out of his system. Get his hormones straight.
Onya Kane
This was highly entertaining 😅 However I have to give the win to Kane, Kingy made zero sense at the best of times while Kane actually had valid points
I’m surprised as men they couldn’t come to the conclusion that they both put their hand up at the end to leave it on a civil note
did this have to be on air?
Video title should’ve told me to grab my popcorn
good on ya kingy, clearly footy classifieds made those comments sound like kingy was talking about JHF as a port player. typical garbage from ch9 and if ken was so worried about it why did he not speak up last year when he wasn't a port player.
It’s clear that this was building for sometime. For months I’ve thought that these two don’t like each other now it’s come clear. No chemistry, little digs at each other. Best that this stops before it gets toxic
King, you rubbished Brad Scott in his last couple of weeks at the Roos saying he wasn't committed. Look at what he's doing at Essendon this year. Look at the Roos....
He rubbished brad Scott for selling north future which he did. He traded high picks for duds
@@velvetjuzzy Brad Scott was the coach, not the list manager mate
Btw who did he trade for with high draft picks?
so after this, if JFH continually cops the treatment he has been, cornes has no1 to blame but himself..
absolute child.
i cant believe Im siding with Kingy..
#cancelkanekornes
It wasn't North supporters booing him in Adelaide, wasn't it Bulldogs supporters? Isn't it a parochial state thing?
Really enjoyed the conversation gentlemen! However David's call " you'll start arguing with fools"! Nailed it David, he's arguing with you!
PS to get some true objectively let's ask Brad Scott a bloke of true integrity what he thinks of King
Its not one thing in particular, its many things stacking up together to create a storm around this player.
Yeah,..very unimpressed with Kingy's effort.
Yeah whens fair to critique players Cornes, didnt care about it when you had a go at Ginnivan
Jeez Cornes can never do no wrong.
He explains himself better than kingy. Kingy gets so offended easily
@@skillsmachine9164 Dude, if you get sucked into this performance by Cornes you're incredibly gullible.
@@skillsmachine9164 Agreed and then goes rogue to 'get him back'
@jaredburgess8381 at least cornes doesnt take a backward step and sound like hes gonna cry. Im not even a port supporter but king is a chronic whinger
Kane editing old recorded comments and makoing it look like it was said this year, is nothing short of what this guy gets upto to make a point - he's been called out and shown he's a low level operator - David King is 100% on the money here. Screw you Kane ..... If JHF didn't have a port Jumper on you wouldn't hear from him.
This is hilarious to me lol like I'm back in high school 😂
King looked quite poor here, I would’ve expected some less emotional analysis from someone of his usual standard. Dropped the ball
Was surprised by the booing and don’t really agree with it but… I think this is the fans saying they don’t want #1 picks leaving after 1 year and hurting their clubs - think the afl needs to stop this from happening or give their fans voice in other ways
Who is the grub fox footy journalist Kane is talking about?
I don't need to listen to this, but if you can tell me who's gonna win the Blues / Saints game.....then I'm in. QUESTION.......Has hypnotherapy been used at club level for certain individuals....and/or could it be an option???? I have a few names that may benefit.
I’m gonna say the journo is Jon Ralph haha
It's so funny watching them play the blame game LoL but gotta agree that Kane has been lighting a lot of fires for many young players
So Kingy was originally trying to distance himself and act like he had nothing to do with it. He then try’s to flip the argument to state Kane was arguing that. Kane repeatedly said he did contribute along with others, he just wasn’t copping that it was purely the hashtag, which of course it wasn’t. Telling everyone the audio from Classified was radio, dodgy. For me both just as culpable but Kane willing to stand by his comments while King tried to stay popular at Kanes expense. Top bloke 👍
No he didn’t it was last year and Cornes did mention the ice bath and fans deserve to boo Horne Francis. When you get ahead of yourself and think your better when you’re not then listen to your teammates
If Kane continues to antagonistic people then don't cry when they bring it back in the form of booing. It's simple.
He said he will continue to troll north fans so expect north AND neutral fans tonl troll his golden boy!
Can't throw a punch and then cry when one gets thrown back.
5:16 Ok Kingy reckons the Kangaroo supporters are giving JHF a hard time to get back at Kane Cornes 🤦🏻♂️That comment sums up the NMFC 🤦🏻♂️Welcome Home JHF❤️PAFC❤️
nice to see kingy sticking up for north
No because he was critical of Horne Francis when he criticized a player for giving up
Yea the worst run club in AFL history needs a few people faking support
Kane your a flog! Kingy don’t give him the time of day!!
Kane, you give the young footballers shit whenever you can. But OH NO NO NO not if he plays for Port, suddenly they are off limits.
Hypocrite.
It's not hypocrisy Kane, it's a direct comparison of you doing similar at a similar time, and then you try to take Umbridge.
Never took issue with what King said when he was in a North Melbourne jumper.
FTR I think it's shit form to boo JHF, and these two are both flogs.
Kane dominated kingy so hard
Fantastic debate should be more of it.
Kingy had a couple of moments there where he just wanted to run straight through Kane like the good old days 😅
But kingy was an outside soft running mid
It’s a tv show??? Kane, tv , radio and twitter are all types of media, so of course your edit of what David king said (last year I might add), will be replayed dozens of times
Who cares who started it and who was a bigger part. The point is they both contributed towards the issue and as key figures and speakers for AFL they should simply apologise for their part and encourage people to change their behaviour around the JHF issue. Rather than care more about who’s to blame.
Kane Cornes is the biggest flog in afl history
I feel like that kid watching his two petulant parents fighting
Omg Cornes is a gaslighter
King all the way, hes on a different level
i mean King won the argument
It’s not often I agree with Kane Cornes
Kane lists about 5 things that have contributed to the drama
King: “I’m not interested in any of those things”
Then what’s the point of the conversation if you’re just going to dismiss everything Corne says? 😂 King is so dim
please. King keeps saying "you started it, you lit the fire", just scrambling, Kane says yes yes were all involved. King points out Horne Francis almost every game. apparently no other port player has any deficiencies. so many worst players but JHF gets a whole few minutes with clips from king.
So wrong. His only comment this year was when he didn't chase - and a number of journalists made the same comment. He also praised him after his game in Rd 1 and the game last week. He also commented how all of the young Port mids had to step up, not just JHF. That's basically it. Don't worry about facts though 🤣Kane never asked himself why JHF gets booed against other teams? He can't think of any reason? Really?
Both great analysts of the game and both great insights for the fans. They consistently make great points. On the JHF issue though I think both are affected by their admirable allegiances to their former clubs, this made the whole discussion a bit too circular. Also aren’t we all buying into the assumption that the booing is bad? If the fans boo because of what Cornes, Kingy or what anyone says in the media or social media that is just too bad.
Perfectly summarised
These coaches are too sensitive
Any AFL player or team must be held accountable to media scrutiny
Think there is only one person responsible for the negative criticism re HF.
Kane wouldn't let King speak. And "hashtag icebath" sums up footy classified = tabloid.
Put the gloves on boys
Common Kane W
Cornes knows he’s wrong so he constantly derails and misdirects the conversation.
2 grown men arguing who started a feud with a 18 year old
10:00 say what you will about Kingy, Kane splicing Audio from last year when JHF was still at North as though it was occurring during his Port days. Pretty slimy.
They are both deducted 4 premiership points for this.
Why do they keep bringing up the Collingwood fans booing him, didn’t have to do with leaving North. He was booed 2 times and it was because of the free kicks he gave away towards Taylor Adam’s. 🤦🏻♂️
JHF was trying to rough up Tay in round 2. Fans were booing JHF because his conduct was unnecessary in the context.
Best of luck for JHF. He looks a player and will have a great career.
Who cares if JHF is booed, plenty of players are booed
Kane is so disingenuous it's beyond belief
I'm sick of this saga and JHF in general.
I feel dumber after watching this
I hope the kid becomes a great footballer. I'm more angry at the clubs that when North Melbourne were at their lowest point in decades came to sink the knife in with big-dollar deals for Jason Horne Francis, and the North Melbourne recruiters for not seeing that he was never going to stay, they failed at the interview stage.
North Melbourne had JHF mentored by Tarryn Thomas FFS! That's how much they cared about him!
It blows me away how incompetent some of these clubs are with their recruitment processes, their inner club practices, their ridiculous trades and these stupid deals they the club gets saddles with for years and years.
What a childish argument from two grown men.. felt like I was listening to a couple 6 year olds working out who said what first. People are booing a young player and are doing so for their own reason ( I don't think it has anything to do with what these two clowns say in the media) - may not be fair or reasonable but they pay to go and watch the football and can cheer and boo as they please. The more it is talked about the worse it will probably get unfortunately.
These two aside, JHF leaving North was a mess. Footy moves too quick, and the 4 way trade which got him to Port was unbelievable and maybe it’s a sign of what’s to come for the future of the trade period. Can’t wait for the debate in 5-7 years about who won this trade
I'm still staggered that Kane got a gig in footy media. Doesn't bring breakdowns to footy like Kingy does, just rants, negativity and has his volcano. Guy only gets a position because he is so polarizing.
Kaneo is paid to needle. Once you get that you’ll realise he has no issue with how he behaves and he’ll continue.
Who said Potatoes and peanuts don't go together..
Kane is being such an arrogant flog. If you don't like Kingy that's fine, but Kane is deliberately trolling.
Both blokes have strong bias to their respective clubs. This is just a personal beef now
Kane started it all when after round 1 when he was dressed as JHF on the footy show
I honestly just feel bad for Horne-Francis. He's just a 19 year old.
Give it away, Kingy. Enough is enough. No way were the negative views started by Kane. Accept some blame yourself instead of just wanting to dominate the conversation. I hope this is the end to this rubbish.
Last year I was puzzled by Kane Cornes' obsession with Jason Horne-Francis and bagging the kid every chance he got to. Which makes it even worse that Kane talks about him as the greatest superstar in the making now. How about we just let the kid play? And no,I'm definitely not a David King fan,my Dockers got flogged tonight and King is going to rejoice bagging us all week
I can understand a North supporter not having too much sympathy, or even kind feelings for JHF. North "wasted" their first pick on a player, who looked like he just didn't want to be there. It looked like he didn't really want to be in a bottom club, with probably the poorest facilities in the competition. This is a problem with the practice of giving the bottom club first pick, and JHF isn't the first, nor will he be the last.
What are you talking about? If the bottom club doesn't get the top pick then who should? Do you want the same teams at the top every year and the same teams at the bottom?
@@PWD65 Yes I agree, its about equalization. However there remains the problem of the most desirable recruits not wanting to stay at basket case teams. These guys are hungry for both success and to maximise their earnings from the game. That is difficult to achieve when you are playing for the competition easy beats. Maybe we need a rule that you must stay with the team that firsts drafts you for a certain period of time. But think of the restraint of trade issues that could put in motion if implemented.
@@jeanette5457 So where do you think the top pick should go?
I think people are booing because he was a number one pick and left after just one year to go home. Is there any precedent for this?: Of course there was going to be media scrutiny. Clubs get that pick as a result of being rock bottom and wooden spooners and to see the kid leave after one year is not a good look particularly using the go home reason. Having said that no doubt North could have handed him better and may have kept him if they did. Regardless I hate the booing, yes fans have every right to boo but I think many of us find it childish and when its relentless;ess and never ending it can have a pretty nasty affect on the player who is just a young man. I always found the booing of Adam Goodes distasteful and cringeworthy.
What’s the whole ice bath hashtag about?