Play on the asphalt reminds me of playing football not magic😂😂I never touched a magic card until I was older with kiddos. I always played sports, hunted, and fished. I sure recall my knees and elbows getting jacked from playing football and kickball on asphalt though😂😂😂geez, it's a friggin wonder my generation is still kickin😂😂😂
I agree. I think they should do more restrictions to certain sets or themes and not allow lands or support cards outside of those restrictions. Like when they played They should have restricted like 70% of cards to being duskmorn cards, not just commanders.
I would love to see them do one that is exclusive to each set when it comes out. Its a great way to see more than the 10-30 cards that end up popping off from each set
Shoutout to Phil this week. Etali is about $8 during the recording and he still managed to fit the deck within the $15 budget. Granted with a thief deck like Pako/Halan, you get more value from "stealing" your opponents deck so that's cute.
@@everyonesfavorite8238 The actual intent by WOTC is for the showcase version to be MORE desirable and subsequently more expensive but sometimes the alternative art is a failure and has the opposite effect.
Thrasios and Kydele, Zirda as companion and infinite mana, draw etc Vito, Thorn of the Dusk Rose in the command zone, lifegain burn in selesnya The most busted cards are held in check by doing the exact same thing your identity does. Now make it complimentary
51:13 this is the exact moment that Richard would have died if he had actually taken the 4 and the 1 from Tomer's triggers earlier in the game (at 27:20 and after the boardwipe)
Has to be one of the coolest commander clashes I’ve seen. Theres something nice about watching them play with normal decks with normal costs and watching them play it at an incredibly high level
richard spent the whole game with a lethal board then convinced everyone to help him on top of that, then tried to convince seth to just give him the game which he won anyways. yall gotta just truck richard, put him to 10 then listen to his pleas if needed
I think it mostly comes down to if anyone else has done stuff yet. If someone is like "alright, I'll pass" but before anything happens is like "actually, let me do this real quick" we usually let people take it back, if the next person is already into their turn though it gets a lot harder.
In my play group we all 4 players get bonus per game. meaning that whenever you make a mistake, you have the chance to go back to previous action and correct it, only once per game. so you have to be very careful when to use it.
Loved this episode! The more I play, the more I like having a budged constrain in my deckbuilding, to skip the auto-include staples of the format. Here you can really see player skill!
There's quite a number of $0.15 sweepers. Using the o:"destroy all" query on scryfall, sorted for ascending price, you'll find there's actually quite a number of them at or below that price-point that slot neatly into different decks with different upsides. It's so much more interesting than shoving the 3 same design-mistake staple wipes into every deck.
Fell the Mighty got to show off its versatility in the game (combos well with mirror entity even), I think Time Wipe is excellent for bounce or voltron, Night of the Doctor has great recursion potential, Devastating Mastery has political potential. In nonwhite wipes, Structural Assault is wildly underrated, Nipton Lottery is fantastic in a sac deck and fun outside of one, Decree of Pain is still goated and is $0.25, and Nevinyrral's Disk remains crazy underrated for how easy it is to recur. If you crank the budget up to $.50 even more unlock, and each is like a puzzle to maximize. Sunblast Angel in a deck that wants to tap opponents' creatures (or that specializes in vigilance for its own) becomes a one-sided wipe on a stick. Building a deck that Hour of Revelation won't backfire on or that Path of Peril has genuine modality with is really rewarding.
Even better, you can use otag:sweeper to get a larger pool of sweepers that you don't get with "destroy all". For example, things that say "destroy each", things that mass exile, or things that mass bounce.
There are so many good cards these days that so long as you are a savvy deckbuilder, you are actually only giving up small percentages of wins even with very tight budgets. Freeing yourself from the mental burden of including super-premium cards during first build is very satisfying, and it also means when you do decide the deck has earned some money cards, you actually feel a positive difference.
Applying a heavy budget limit on my new decks has been a wonderful way for me to actually get to try all of the new cards I've been itching to play but haven't found the room for before. It has increased my enjoyment of the format a hundredfold. I pity anyone that is stuck in the loop of only playing expensive staples and that goes around whining about the "current state of commander".
So funny story I was reminded of regarding the Llanowar Elves - my buddy was hosting a Duel Commander "tournament" at his house. I'm playing my game, and I hear someone say, "Oh that's really cool! I've never seen a white-border Snapcaster Mage." And the player who cast it was, like, "Yea, I ordered it off of ebay." I go over that, and I'm like, "They never printed Snapcaster in white-border; they stopped printing anything in white-border since Ninth Edition." This was pre-Mystery Boosters 2. Apparently it was a trend for a while to erase the black border to make the card look more unique, so the card is basically just "altered."
My husband and I made a format we call "poor man's commander " You get 1 gold (rare or mythic under $1) 10 silver (uncommon) and 89 copper pieces (commons) Any legendary permanent may be your commander. The format uses the official banlist. It makes for really interesting games when your commander can be any permanent.
Looks like they messed up and Richard probably shouldn’t have won. Granted he always manipulates the table to leave him alone somehow. We don’t have Crim this season to call it out.
Couldn't Richard just have used Mirror Entity's ability in response to his own Fell the Mighty, keeping prio, and making all his creatures 1/1s? That way nothing on his board would have died. Or am I missing something?
Budget decks have come so far - this was a grade A game. Awesome time - interesting how board wipe-lite you guys felt even with the Fell the Mighty. Looking forward to more! I'd love to see a budget league where you you take a look over set games, even sets, where you start with a base build then each episode do a budget set of updates. I've seen some do $10-$15 each week, you could do each episode when you aren't doing a theme or set release
I hope y’all do more budget ones, maybe with higher budgets so three quarters of your decks aren’t draft chaff and basics. $25-100 budgets could probably make for some interesting brews and games!
man, richard's comment about playing cards in school gave me sweet memories. but we did use sleeves, though they were transparent sleeves. kinda like a mix between normal and perfect fit sleeves.
I have some old cards from when I was in elementary school that have pieces of rubberband hardened and stuck to them. I play them proudly with the cards that got caught in my bike spokes hanging in the grocery bag from the handle bars.
“I’m three dog AWWOOOOOOOoooooo and you’re listening to Galaxy News Radio” Also gorion’s ward and candlekeep sage is such a flavor win. BG1 and 2 are amazing games
My group did a $15 challenge recently. It was awesome! Jenny&madam clues, rendmaw enchantress/unatural, togo and ich-tekik artifact tokens, and shirei aristocrats. Highlight of the game was jenny& madam wrathing and gravestorming out 35 clues, aristocrats drawing 20-30 cards, and then jenny&madam using effects to tap her clues to group slug us dead. We mused about slowly uping tbe budget (25, 50, 100) but the wanted changes were not very fun or interesting (better lands, better removal, expensive staples). And some decks just didn't have a decent upgrade path.
Abdel is one of my favorite cards of all time. And in my opinion one of the most Richard commanders out there (you just cast him before the board wipe and watch the world burn) so im happy to finally see a deck with this beautiful man!
4:50 The two oldest cards I own are an Unlimited Llanowar Elves and a Beta Circle of Protection: Red. I have a bunch of Revised cards, too. But I love the fact that Apha, Beta, and Unlimited cards make you feel like you have glaucoma or something. lol
I love my unsleeved budget commander decks, I have 2 of them. My goal was for them to be under 20$, they keep fluctuating around 26$ or so. It’s tough to keep a deck a certain cost. It’s fun beating other people’s blinged-out expensive decks with them.
I just made a $10 Zada Deck. I didn't sleeve it and slapped some rubber bands around it to keep it tidy. I call it 'scuff deck' and it's a menace. Very timely to see this video. I love it.
I play Jon Irenicus unsleeved with all damaged cards - I have stained cards, bite-marked cards, water-damaged cards - then I give those janky unsleeved cards to my opponents and take their nice sleeved cards. It's so satisfying.
Seth was 100% dead to Richard and not 100% dead to Tomer and it really took like 5 minutes of convincing to get Seth to not attack Tomer 😂 And Tomer was "called out" for "manipulating" Seth by just pointing out that Seth was 100% dead to Richard and not 100% dead to him! The drama on these episodes always entertains lol.
Richard making me feel old with the asphalt and rubber band reference. We used to all collect different tcg's so we had a playground ruleset to try to play Pokemon vs mtg vs yugioh.
This was fun, and it definitely inspired me to whip up a dimir deck based on my old Dimir Intrigue precon from the the first Ravnica set. But, after grabbing a Mirko, Obsessive Theorist precon (arguably the most "true-to-OG-Dimir" deck these days), I was thinking another "budget" restriction could be fun if you each choose a precon that you could currently buy for about $50+/-$5 and add $15+/-$5 in upgrades. If an enfranchised player invited a new player and that new player joined a pod of other new players, I imagine this is what it could look like (the enfranchised players pointed them to some online resources like MTGGoldfish upgrades or Command Zone upgrades, or even TCC upgrades). You could even buy a precon and 3 of any current booster packs + 1 collector booster. I've done this recently with a new player- you can use the precon's boosters (if any) plus the assorted boosters to attempt to bolster your new deck on screen followed by a "pickup" game with adjusted deck.
Wait a second. As soon as I saw the etali, I assumed commanders weren't included, then Phil said "75% lands" and holy crap this guy might have just made a $2 deck with a $13 commander
Etali is so screwed up. The etb means killing it is possibly devastating but the transform ability forces you to kill it. Damned if you do, damned if you don't like golos or roxy.
Toner suffering from success. Probably the only one in the group who actively builds and understands how to get great synergy out of budget decks. Gets seen as the threat because his deck is “doing the thing” when there’s literally a lethal Etali on the board. I get that life total wise Tomer was ahead basically all game but….. commander damage exist and you’re literally playing against the poison Etali so idk why they focused Tomer so much. I get that he was getting the most value with his board state but honestly I would’ve leveraged that to help myself deal with Etali. Yes Tomer had an engine that could lead to him getting too far ahead but it isn’t fast enough to warrant focusing him down so early. Idk. Maybe I’m the idiot, but I would’ve tried to politic a bit more rather than just slow Tomer down and ignore Phils Etali for a turn or two. The enemy of your enemy is your friend and when two players are much further ahead then the others in my experience it’s usually beneficial to make them fight each other if possible. Tomer doesn’t want to die to Poison, Phil doesn’t want to get outpaced by Tomers engine, have them deal with each other and then clean up whoever is weakest idk. Then after killing Phil it literally just became a 2v1. So boring seeing Richard and Seth always buddying up. Instead of trading out Phil, Tomer and Crim all the time. Let’s see a game without the Richard and Seth in the same pod so they can’t buddy up the whole game like they do every other game they play. Literally just bounce free value and safe attacks off each other all the time and never really offer the same kind of deals or reprieve to the other players. Still a good game and honestly MUCH preferred to the normal decks. It’s refreshing to see them have to build decks like normal people would instead of jamming the monetary value equal to some people’s weeks pay in land bases into every deck. “I don’t understand why you’d ever run more than 4 basics”. BECAUSE I AM POOR RICHARD THAT IS WHY!
"I get that life total wise Tomer was ahead basically all game but….. commander damage exist and you’re literally playing against the poison Etali so idk why they focused Tomer so much." Tomer was literally three life off wining. This actually shows it' the best way for everyone apart from him to have dealt with it.
@ I feel like you missed the part where I said maybe I’m the idiot. I’m not saying ignore the lifegain player who is also burning you but I still feel like the amount of focus Tomer received early on and then right at the end was a bit excessive.
On this week of "Punt or Bluff?" I'm sorry I spilled coffee while you were sleeving your deck.... Will Tomer's basement-musty draft chaff score a win or will Seth's dog-chewed trade-binder hold the key to victory? Tune-in to find out!
I noticed they kept adjusting their decks over and over and over (I watch at work without sound). Thought to myself, "should make a drinking game where you take a drink every time they adjust their deck". Then continued to watch them adjust their deck another 100x this episode. This would 100% kill somebody.
At 24:00 (not 100% sure if intended) but I think Richard made a both brilliant and really manipulative play here. Both he and Tomer were considered as target for attack by Phil. So Richard made a bad attack against Tomer, losing some creatures and in the end even increasing Tomers life total. Because of that, the Etali attack went to Tomer. I never considered weakening yourself on purpose to avoid being the target, and also not sure how I feel about it. But a very smart play nonetheless.
Richard saying "Play on the asphalt like savages" hits back to some core memories for those early day TCG games at school. :)
Occasionally a picnic table when lucky 😂
I still have some cards with the dents in them from the gravel.
Play on the asphalt reminds me of playing football not magic😂😂I never touched a magic card until I was older with kiddos. I always played sports, hunted, and fished. I sure recall my knees and elbows getting jacked from playing football and kickball on asphalt though😂😂😂geez, it's a friggin wonder my generation is still kickin😂😂😂
More of this please, the $1000-mana-base-15-auto-include-staple-decks are cool, but this is cooler
I agree. I think they should do more restrictions to certain sets or themes and not allow lands or support cards outside of those restrictions. Like when they played They should have restricted like 70% of cards to being duskmorn cards, not just commanders.
I would love to see them do one that is exclusive to each set when it comes out. Its a great way to see more than the 10-30 cards that end up popping off from each set
Okay
It was nice to see something a lot more representative of what I think of as normal play
I've never insta-clicked so fast. Can't wait to see how some of the guys handle having financial constraints like the rest of us haha.
They just play ramp and non-interaction is my guess. Which is like more than half the normal games. 😴
@@Nas0630How interactions are not cheap
What do you mean? You don't shove Trouble in Pairs and The One Ring in every deck?
@maxfail23721, no. 2, I would just proxy if I was.
I'm just too lazy to individually grab every art and print on my greyscale only printer
Man we ain't all broke
Love committing to the bit by not having sleeves.
Even cheap cards don't deserve this treatment ;_;
Been funny if they all spent the 15 on damaged versions of cards to drive the price even lower
i think all the cards are not even a dollar.. but i still dont like it also felt wrong...
Shoutout to Phil this week. Etali is about $8 during the recording and he still managed to fit the deck within the $15 budget. Granted with a thief deck like Pako/Halan, you get more value from "stealing" your opponents deck so that's cute.
Sort of a loophole there… the basic version is $14. The showcase version is $8 because people hate the art.
I like the cheat of using the bard art version, because trying to fit a deck around the fourteen dollar version might be actually impossible.
I wish there were more often an ugly cheaper version of expensive cards.
@@everyonesfavorite8238 The actual intent by WOTC is for the showcase version to be MORE desirable and subsequently more expensive but sometimes the alternative art is a failure and has the opposite effect.
Huh, that Foundations print really drove it down.
Love you guys doing budget decks. It's nice to see 4 decks cost about the same as a Precon these days.
Cheaper than most precons now, which is kind of crazy
I constantly enjoy building my decks with a 50 buck limit hence why I have about 8 decks with all different values but mostly below 50
Uh I think precons are like 45 bucks, I mean the sliver one was 90
Cheaper. I bought precon Squirrelled away for 65$
Idea for future Commander Clash: Inverted Colour ID. Choose a multicolour commander and then build a deck with the other colours.
Thrasios and Kydele, Zirda as companion and infinite mana, draw etc
Vito, Thorn of the Dusk Rose in the command zone, lifegain burn in selesnya
The most busted cards are held in check by doing the exact same thing your identity does. Now make it complimentary
Richard every video: "If they have an answer to my plan, my plan fails!"
51:13 this is the exact moment that Richard would have died if he had actually taken the 4 and the 1 from Tomer's triggers earlier in the game (at 27:20 and after the boardwipe)
Liking this in hopes they see it.
The editor done the effect for the damage but didn’t change the number, so they must of noticed it in editing and told the crew later
Also Richard had one mana left that turn, he could've turn all his creatures into 1/1s so the other two survived the Fell the Mighty.
Absolutely love when you guys build with restrictions. Very delightful episode to watch :)
Has to be one of the coolest commander clashes I’ve seen. Theres something nice about watching them play with normal decks with normal costs and watching them play it at an incredibly high level
The shuffling subplot is phenomenal
I found it funny that Richard is the only one who actually know how to shuffle a deck.
richard spent the whole game with a lethal board then convinced everyone to help him on top of that, then tried to convince seth to just give him the game which he won anyways. yall gotta just truck richard, put him to 10 then listen to his pleas if needed
I like the no take backs for Tomer, but then Richard tells Seth to do something after Seth passes, and he's allowed to go back to his attack step.
I think it mostly comes down to if anyone else has done stuff yet. If someone is like "alright, I'll pass" but before anything happens is like "actually, let me do this real quick" we usually let people take it back, if the next person is already into their turn though it gets a lot harder.
Richard had not done anything yet, Tomer basically said straight away
@@burnsboy101Richard did draw a card. I think letting Tomer go back would've still been fine in this case, but i can see why they decided not to
In my play group we all 4 players get bonus per game. meaning that whenever you make a mistake, you have the chance to go back to previous action and correct it, only once per game. so you have to be very careful when to use it.
Loved this episode! The more I play, the more I like having a budged constrain in my deckbuilding, to skip the auto-include staples of the format. Here you can really see player skill!
Richard missed the play of using Mirror Entity to turn all his creatures into 1/1 before fell the mighty resolved.
There's quite a number of $0.15 sweepers. Using the o:"destroy all" query on scryfall, sorted for ascending price, you'll find there's actually quite a number of them at or below that price-point that slot neatly into different decks with different upsides.
It's so much more interesting than shoving the 3 same design-mistake staple wipes into every deck.
What are some of your favorites?
Fell the Mighty got to show off its versatility in the game (combos well with mirror entity even), I think Time Wipe is excellent for bounce or voltron, Night of the Doctor has great recursion potential, Devastating Mastery has political potential.
In nonwhite wipes, Structural Assault is wildly underrated, Nipton Lottery is fantastic in a sac deck and fun outside of one, Decree of Pain is still goated and is $0.25, and Nevinyrral's Disk remains crazy underrated for how easy it is to recur.
If you crank the budget up to $.50 even more unlock, and each is like a puzzle to maximize. Sunblast Angel in a deck that wants to tap opponents' creatures (or that specializes in vigilance for its own) becomes a one-sided wipe on a stick. Building a deck that Hour of Revelation won't backfire on or that Path of Peril has genuine modality with is really rewarding.
Even better, you can use otag:sweeper to get a larger pool of sweepers that you don't get with "destroy all". For example, things that say "destroy each", things that mass exile, or things that mass bounce.
I would love more budget games. Never knew bastion of remembrance was a card until now. You guys seem to dig out all the pocket picks.
That deckbox is absolutely amazing
Edit: I apologize, juicebox
Who could guess the shuffling would be one of the most interesting parts of the game. It felt like watching someone learning to walk again.
You let him get away with it. Never let him live
There are so many good cards these days that so long as you are a savvy deckbuilder, you are actually only giving up small percentages of wins even with very tight budgets. Freeing yourself from the mental burden of including super-premium cards during first build is very satisfying, and it also means when you do decide the deck has earned some money cards, you actually feel a positive difference.
Applying a heavy budget limit on my new decks has been a wonderful way for me to actually get to try all of the new cards I've been itching to play but haven't found the room for before. It has increased my enjoyment of the format a hundredfold. I pity anyone that is stuck in the loop of only playing expensive staples and that goes around whining about the "current state of commander".
Poor Tomer. He made a deal with Phil so Seth and Richard attacked him, and then Phil reneged on the deal and attacked him anyway! TANJ 😔
Phil didn't attack Tomer that turn. If Tomer wanted the deal to last multiple turns, that should have been part of the negotiations.
So funny story I was reminded of regarding the Llanowar Elves - my buddy was hosting a Duel Commander "tournament" at his house. I'm playing my game, and I hear someone say, "Oh that's really cool! I've never seen a white-border Snapcaster Mage." And the player who cast it was, like, "Yea, I ordered it off of ebay." I go over that, and I'm like, "They never printed Snapcaster in white-border; they stopped printing anything in white-border since Ninth Edition." This was pre-Mystery Boosters 2. Apparently it was a trend for a while to erase the black border to make the card look more unique, so the card is basically just "altered."
My husband and I made a format we call "poor man's commander "
You get 1 gold (rare or mythic under $1) 10 silver (uncommon) and 89 copper pieces (commons)
Any legendary permanent may be your commander. The format uses the official banlist.
It makes for really interesting games when your commander can be any permanent.
Thank you for including the painful shuffling.
27:20 why did Richard stay at 24?
Looks like they messed up and Richard probably shouldn’t have won. Granted he always manipulates the table to leave him alone somehow. We don’t have Crim this season to call it out.
@FSUMercerian and again when he boardwipes, he doesn't lose the one and everyone else does...
@@FSUMercerian tomer is the one who calls him out most imo, crim is just always trying to get in everyones heads
Once again everyone forgets about Richard and then dies to him.
Need the decklists! Love slapping a Cheap, Jank deck down on the table that makes others hard thought creations just fumble lol
They are always in the description, but here you go! www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/15-commander-commander-clash-s17-e20
All the shuffling in this video is incredible.
Fun game to watch. Poor Tomer; think some of yall need to watch Tolarian Community College's Threat Assessment video ;)
Couldn't Richard just have used Mirror Entity's ability in response to his own Fell the Mighty, keeping prio, and making all his creatures 1/1s? That way nothing on his board would have died. Or am I missing something?
Budget decks have come so far - this was a grade A game. Awesome time - interesting how board wipe-lite you guys felt even with the Fell the Mighty. Looking forward to more! I'd love to see a budget league where you you take a look over set games, even sets, where you start with a base build then each episode do a budget set of updates. I've seen some do $10-$15 each week, you could do each episode when you aren't doing a theme or set release
I hope y’all do more budget ones, maybe with higher budgets so three quarters of your decks aren’t draft chaff and basics. $25-100 budgets could probably make for some interesting brews and games!
$25 is the ideal for ultra budget but you can do some fun stuff for $15 that absolutely rips
Thumbnail is chef's kiss!
I love how Richard always does azorious blink on budget week
You guys are wild.
*Thanks for the Content* !
man, richard's comment about playing cards in school gave me sweet memories. but we did use sleeves, though they were transparent sleeves. kinda like a mix between normal and perfect fit sleeves.
You're not quite THAT old then.
I have some old cards from when I was in elementary school that have pieces of rubberband hardened and stuck to them. I play them proudly with the cards that got caught in my bike spokes hanging in the grocery bag from the handle bars.
Poor Phil, he's always the threat. Take 6 phil
Super fun to see these budget cards! Me and my friends have done this but we do a “less than x” budget AND no single card over like $3 or whatever.
Another banger! One of the best season!
Big fan of this budget episode! :-)
I think budget magic is the real challenge. Everyone can win with rhystic study and smothering tithe😅
What a fantastic game, I really love your budget games. Even moderate budgets ($50, $100, $150) create really cool and accessible decks for viewers.
All these brews were super spicy for the budget and have so much potential to be amazing upgradable decks. I really liked Tomer’s lands deck.
Oh hell nah! You did not just bring up the old rubber band tech like that 😂
Hahaha, I remember the rubber band in high school... a quarter of a century ago
in brazil we call "budget deck" just deck :'(
“I’m three dog AWWOOOOOOOoooooo and you’re listening to Galaxy News Radio”
Also gorion’s ward and candlekeep sage is such a flavor win. BG1 and 2 are amazing games
My group did a $15 challenge recently. It was awesome! Jenny&madam clues, rendmaw enchantress/unatural, togo and ich-tekik artifact tokens, and shirei aristocrats.
Highlight of the game was jenny& madam wrathing and gravestorming out 35 clues, aristocrats drawing 20-30 cards, and then jenny&madam using effects to tap her clues to group slug us dead.
We mused about slowly uping tbe budget (25, 50, 100) but the wanted changes were not very fun or interesting (better lands, better removal, expensive staples). And some decks just didn't have a decent upgrade path.
Abdel is one of my favorite cards of all time. And in my opinion one of the most Richard commanders out there (you just cast him before the board wipe and watch the world burn) so im happy to finally see a deck with this beautiful man!
4:50 The two oldest cards I own are an Unlimited Llanowar Elves and a Beta Circle of Protection: Red. I have a bunch of Revised cards, too. But I love the fact that Apha, Beta, and Unlimited cards make you feel like you have glaucoma or something. lol
Ngl I wanted Tomer to dominate with one his home brews
most fun episode for quite a long time :D
Love this idea, the way MTG was intended!
I really liked the pre-game banter! Great letting you all let your personalities shine through.
I love my unsleeved budget commander decks, I have 2 of them. My goal was for them to be under 20$, they keep fluctuating around 26$ or so. It’s tough to keep a deck a certain cost. It’s fun beating other people’s blinged-out expensive decks with them.
I just made a $10 Zada Deck. I didn't sleeve it and slapped some rubber bands around it to keep it tidy. I call it 'scuff deck' and it's a menace. Very timely to see this video. I love it.
I play Jon Irenicus unsleeved with all damaged cards - I have stained cards, bite-marked cards, water-damaged cards - then I give those janky unsleeved cards to my opponents and take their nice sleeved cards. It's so satisfying.
Who’s out here biting their cards?!
Cats.
I forgot how difficult it was to shuffle without sleeves. lol
I’m always baffled by the crews threat assessment. Richard and Seth make the weirdest decisions on who to attack and who is a threat.
richard just tries to politic everything
Seth was 100% dead to Richard and not 100% dead to Tomer and it really took like 5 minutes of convincing to get Seth to not attack Tomer 😂
And Tomer was "called out" for "manipulating" Seth by just pointing out that Seth was 100% dead to Richard and not 100% dead to him! The drama on these episodes always entertains lol.
I guess you could say.... you are going commando.
10/10 comment right here ☝
at 27:00, why didnt he just declare the spawn as a blocker then sac in response to end the combat?
Etali has trample, so if Tomer does that he dies.
Now i want to go on TCG order an entire Commander deck full of heavily damaged cards and roll up to an LGS with the rubberband special. 😂
That was actually a super compelling last few rounds.
Dammit Richard, why are you playing the archetype that I love now I gotta root for you! 😂
Richard making me feel old with the asphalt and rubber band reference. We used to all collect different tcg's so we had a playground ruleset to try to play Pokemon vs mtg vs yugioh.
This was fun, and it definitely inspired me to whip up a dimir deck based on my old Dimir Intrigue precon from the the first Ravnica set. But, after grabbing a Mirko, Obsessive Theorist precon (arguably the most "true-to-OG-Dimir" deck these days), I was thinking another "budget" restriction could be fun if you each choose a precon that you could currently buy for about $50+/-$5 and add $15+/-$5 in upgrades. If an enfranchised player invited a new player and that new player joined a pod of other new players, I imagine this is what it could look like (the enfranchised players pointed them to some online resources like MTGGoldfish upgrades or Command Zone upgrades, or even TCC upgrades).
You could even buy a precon and 3 of any current booster packs + 1 collector booster. I've done this recently with a new player- you can use the precon's boosters (if any) plus the assorted boosters to attempt to bolster your new deck on screen followed by a "pickup" game with adjusted deck.
Wait a second. As soon as I saw the etali, I assumed commanders weren't included, then Phil said "75% lands" and holy crap this guy might have just made a $2 deck with a $13 commander
The shear amount of shuffling pre-game is insane 😂
ah yes the rubberband meta from the 90s. I remember that fondly.
Also extra bravery points to Tomer for risking sleeveless shuffling possibilities 😂.
I'm surprised there hasn't been more Barbershop Quartet Clash-Ons
Three Dog is so much fun, even on a budget
Best clash in a long time. Cool synergys with junk cards you had lying around, just like how commander came into existance.
I'm so happy that Richard is on Abdel Adrian/Candlekeep Sage because I too am a Richard playing with Abdel Adrian/Candlekeep Sage!
Love this particular crew.
Etali is so screwed up. The etb means killing it is possibly devastating but the transform ability forces you to kill it. Damned if you do, damned if you don't like golos or roxy.
mtg of the people- this is the new meta
the amount of tech im learning is nuts-
emrakuls messenger and ringsight from tomer so far are crazy
the triggering of the unsleeved cards is hillarious
I noticed Seth was reading out Three Dog as "Whenever it attacks", but it's "whenever you attack", so it doesn't actually have to attack itself
You can absolutely attack with a soldier token and then suddenly your board is crazy huge
agree with Tomer. Clash on has been great!
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Seeing/hearing your guys shuffle without sleeves is like nails on a chalkboard.
I never had a rubber band phase. I always protected my cards. My decks were a mish mash of random sleeves however. Nice rainbow deck.
Toner suffering from success.
Probably the only one in the group who actively builds and understands how to get great synergy out of budget decks. Gets seen as the threat because his deck is “doing the thing” when there’s literally a lethal Etali on the board. I get that life total wise Tomer was ahead basically all game but….. commander damage exist and you’re literally playing against the poison Etali so idk why they focused Tomer so much. I get that he was getting the most value with his board state but honestly I would’ve leveraged that to help myself deal with Etali. Yes Tomer had an engine that could lead to him getting too far ahead but it isn’t fast enough to warrant focusing him down so early. Idk. Maybe I’m the idiot, but I would’ve tried to politic a bit more rather than just slow Tomer down and ignore Phils Etali for a turn or two. The enemy of your enemy is your friend and when two players are much further ahead then the others in my experience it’s usually beneficial to make them fight each other if possible. Tomer doesn’t want to die to Poison, Phil doesn’t want to get outpaced by Tomers engine, have them deal with each other and then clean up whoever is weakest idk. Then after killing Phil it literally just became a 2v1. So boring seeing Richard and Seth always buddying up. Instead of trading out Phil, Tomer and Crim all the time. Let’s see a game without the Richard and Seth in the same pod so they can’t buddy up the whole game like they do every other game they play. Literally just bounce free value and safe attacks off each other all the time and never really offer the same kind of deals or reprieve to the other players.
Still a good game and honestly MUCH preferred to the normal decks. It’s refreshing to see them have to build decks like normal people would instead of jamming the monetary value equal to some people’s weeks pay in land bases into every deck. “I don’t understand why you’d ever run more than 4 basics”.
BECAUSE I AM POOR RICHARD THAT IS WHY!
"I get that life total wise Tomer was ahead basically all game but….. commander damage exist and you’re literally playing against the poison Etali so idk why they focused Tomer so much."
Tomer was literally three life off wining. This actually shows it' the best way for everyone apart from him to have dealt with it.
@ I feel like you missed the part where I said maybe I’m the idiot. I’m not saying ignore the lifegain player who is also burning you but I still feel like the amount of focus Tomer received early on and then right at the end was a bit excessive.
fuck tomer we crim gang
tldr
people like richard are why ive never felt bad turboing out a blood moon
On this week of "Punt or Bluff?" I'm sorry I spilled coffee while you were sleeving your deck.... Will Tomer's basement-musty draft chaff score a win or will Seth's dog-chewed trade-binder hold the key to victory? Tune-in to find out!
Fantastic episode
Reminds me of playing my rubber banded unsleeved decks with unlimited duals and other shit like that on the highschool floor, lol.
Tomer, you have been training for this. Time to release your final form!!
I noticed they kept adjusting their decks over and over and over (I watch at work without sound). Thought to myself, "should make a drinking game where you take a drink every time they adjust their deck". Then continued to watch them adjust their deck another 100x this episode. This would 100% kill somebody.
At 24:00 (not 100% sure if intended) but I think Richard made a both brilliant and really manipulative play here. Both he and Tomer were considered as target for attack by Phil. So Richard made a bad attack against Tomer, losing some creatures and in the end even increasing Tomers life total. Because of that, the Etali attack went to Tomer.
I never considered weakening yourself on purpose to avoid being the target, and also not sure how I feel about it. But a very smart play nonetheless.
When the sleeves would cost more than your deck lol
Well now I wanna make a $15 unsleeved commander
Seth thinking he was manipulated by Tomer and not Richard is absolutely baffling to me. lmao, Richard is the best politic at the table
Commander Clash - Battle of the Ramp:
Tomer: only basic payoff ramp
Richard: red ramp package
Seth: Simic
Phil/Crim: White catch up ramp
Tomer not knowing how to shuffle a deck of cards blows my mind. This was a staple in my house at a very early age.
When your deck costs less then the sleeves 😂
Three color juice box deck box deserves an award.
Love the budget decks. Maybe 20 or 25 dollars so people can play decks with card draw though 😂
There is no second place. Always play either to win or just for the funny. Any other option is toxic.