Super Smash Bros Ultimate Inaccuracies!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 พ.ค. 2024
- Super Smash bros ultimate has a ton of franchises within it. With those however come some places where info in smash isn't correct or is inaccurate. So today I'll be going over some of smash bros ultimate's inaccuracies when it comes to games like mario maker, mario odyssey, animal crossing, pokemon, and more! Even some smash bros things like alternate costumes, snake's codec calls, and palutena's guidence as well!
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I’ve been getting a lot of criticism over my Pokémon spirit segment of my video (5:55-8:55) where people have been pointing out that it’s not really inaccurate. I made the mistake of seeing spirit classes as pure power showcase without considering popularity or other appearances like the anime. I would suggest skipping that portion of the video if you aren’t interested using the time stamps above. Thank you all for commenting!
I dunno about that. I'd say it's more a matter of how Fighter and Support Spirits are structured (particular support skills only go to 4-stars), so Lugia and Ho-oh kinda make sense in that regard. And some of the mythicals have upgraded forms, so it makes sense for the base form to be anything below 4-star (though, Zygarde 50% Forme should've at least been a 2-star). And I could buy pseudo-legendaries being 2-star, since legendaries tend to be 3-star or 4-star. What I do find bullshit, however, is Black/White Kyurem only being 3-star. Aside from the fact that the fused Kyurem are among the strongest Pokemon in the game, you're required to go out of your way to summon these Spirits in order to obtain them. So why do they only end up being at the same star-ranking as Zekrom and Reshiram, the same Pokemon they use in their base?
I commented after you posted this one, but it wasn't related to Pokémon. It's fine, I'll give you another inaccuracy as a replacement: Mr. Game and Watch Octopus has a higher power level than Arceus.
By the way abomasnow is shiny in his spirit
@@catkiparmy is he an ultra beast
@@catkiparmy I looked it up it says he's not one
2:58 the original voice actor died and they didn't record aby new lines out of respect
Solgaleo35 oh I had never heard of this, Rest In Peace to the VA.
@@Odyssey_Central specifically Colonel's Japanese voice actor
RIP. Rest in Peace Takeshi Aono. I'll put the VA's name when I find out
Edit: Got it thanks to Solgaleo35!
@@derodainfamous his name was Takeshi Aono. he played Roy Campbell.
Couldn't they have recorded new lines for Mei Ling and Otacon? Colonel Campbell isn't the only person Snake's calling. Hoko Kuwashima and Hideyuki Tanaka are still alive.
5:27 that has to be the biggest nit pick I’ve ever seen in my life
That's the entire video really, discussing a bunch of nitpicks that don't need discussion. Everything in this video except the void around New Donk City Hall has little to no impact on the game, but dedicating a video to them treats these nitpicks like they actually matter
You mean smallest nitpick, right?
That’s kind of the point of the whole video. These don’t make smash bad and are more like fun facts.
I have to agree because Sakurai’s artwork thins where the original one cuts off. It was close enough to the original to where it should be excusable and I don’t think it was necessary to point out at all
Edit: Although OC is correct about the nitpicks being plenty in this video
Lol I can't believe someone even noticed that, must have OCD or something
Damn, you're right. Smash ultimate failed to portray Tom Nook's power when it comes to throwing hands
Exactly
"Byleth up smash"
*shows marth*
I see how it is
I guess you can say its an
*Inaccuracy*
Well, he does hate Byleth..
Medli2006 simple, byleth is not marth
And Chara is Frisk
@@blueberryfoxfurry8950 mario and luigi are both Italian and plumbers so what's the difference between them?
One BIG inconsistency In Smash comes from Lucina.
Whenever she defeats Marth, her victory quote Is "THIS Is the Hero King?", and when she defeats Ike, it Is "And they call YOU the Radiant Hero?", both In a mocking tone.
The inconsistency? It's WAY out of character for her, not once In any of her appearances, canonical or not, she mocks her opponents, much less people she admires.
Though I heard this was due to a mistranslation.
It was a mistranslation so you're correct
Really? If so?
YES I was waiting for this in the video!! I main her and when I hear that victory screen against Marth it irks me so much. Not only is she very well-mannered to begin with but she literally idolizes Marth... makes no sense for her to diss him
Fuck all people who play fire emblem characters u weeb
Ben Wallace chill out man, smash is a game with a wide variety of fighters, made to be where anyone can play whoever they want at all times. It’s rude and uncalled for to insult someone based off of something as ridiculous as who the mainly play as in a video game.
“If YoU pLaY tHiS gEnRe Of FiCtIoNaL cHaRaCtErS i HaTe YoU aNd YoU’rE a WeEb” is childish and unnecessary.
Shulk's final smash, Chain Attack, has some inaccuracies.
The chain attack itself has four members, which is not possible in the original game since you could only have three active party members at any given time, meaning a chain attack involving four attackers isn't possible.
There's also a smaller inconsistency. Even though Shulk was the one who started the chain attack, Riki attacks first, whereas Shulk should have been the one to attack first since he initiated the chain attack
What if it’s foreshadowing that you can now have 4 members in chain attack now in definitive edition? Dun dun dun...
@@traumatized_otaku the fact he looked at riki attacking first and thought about that is somewhat impressive. ive never thought about it
He said he did not count attack in this video (even if this is true)
Here's two more about xenoblade
Mii sword fighter uses his right arm and dunban lost the usage of his right arm, so the dunban mii costume doesn't make much sense.
Monado buster in smash works more like Monado enchant, it's purple and improves weapons, in xenoblade monado buster is blue and is a attack instead of buff
@@rikiisbestestheropon7134 Another about Monado Arts, Monado Shield works more like Monado Armor. Shield in Xenoblade only blocks Talent Arts.
In palutena’s guidance, she says Mr game and watches 9 will always kill you, even though it doesn’t kill at zero in the center.
That's Not a Surprize.
Paluntena, She's Stupid. She Sucks
@@chuckthequail137 dumb poo poo goddess
@@chuckthequail137 aqua is that you? "You shall be purified!"
???
well it can kill light character at zero sometimes (if your lucky and your opponent sucks at DI)
In regards to the Codecs, you forgot possibly the biggest inaccuracy in their codecs. If you activate Olimar's Codec while Olimar is in an alt where he's Alph, they'll simply talk about Olimar rather than Alph, as if Alph isn't even there.
What makes this even more befuddling is that Snake's Codec cannot activate for Ike's Radiant Dawn design, meaning they had to add a line of code to prohibit Radiant Dawn Ike from having a Codec, but they neglected to do this for Olimar, who has an entirely different character attached to him.
Sakurai just hates Pikmin. Look at that miserable music selection and tell me the man likes the series.
@@docs.a.t.7161 I mean there's like 12 remixes of Jungle Japes in the DK series section....the music choices are kind of all over the place. Heck, most of the Kid Icarus section is from Uprising and not 1 song from Of Myths & Monsters was even considered as far as I can tell...and F-Zero in general completely ignores the GBA games :/
Sonic's been around for three games and still only has one remix
Final Fantasy only has two songs, but that's more Square Enix's fault
Bayonetta didn't get one new remix
@@jennytulls6369 3rd party content is a bit tougher to deal with, so it's not nearly as bad as having so many great 1st party Nintendo tracks MIA ( even some that straddle the line like Reincarnation from Tokyo Mirage Sessions or anything from Super Mario RPG & Mario + Rabbids )
@DittoMaster6
And of course, not only did they neglect it for Alph, they also forgot for the aforementioned Pokemon Trainer.
I actually went over the Codecs near Ultimate's release. Here are the additional inconsistencies I found:
Bowser: Said to be slow. While this was the case in Brawl, he's noticeably faster in Ultimate.
Diddy Kong: Mentions how Peanut Popgun's ammo sometimes leaves behind an edible fruit, which isn't the case in Ultimate.
Olimar: Still referred to as Olimar even if using the Alph costume.
Zero Suit Samus: Like with Sheik, it mentions the character changing form mid-match ("Samus took her clothes off!")
Garomasta the thing is, the samus and sheik/zelda codec still make sens even tho these character can no more transform
Miror B GOD well kinda, snake says samus took her armor off but it could of just not been during the match and he maybe didn’t see it but we can say he is assuming that is samus’s without armor bc of her name
Miror B GOD plus the codecs are inconsistent bc nintendo copied everything from brawl bc they didn’t want to make new codecs
@@sdwsamix864 They didn't make new codecs because one of the original voice actors died so out respect they decided not to record without him.
I guess the Mario Maker stage is Sakurai’s interpretation of what he wants added to Mario Maker since there are so many inaccuracies. Also, I think Yoshi’s Island is marked as the Yoshi franchise because that’s where Yoshi made his debut in Super Mario World.
didnt he also appear in a NES puzzle game before World?
Honestly, Yoshi should have just been classified as a Mario series character in the first place, we wouldn't have that inaccuracy then.
Or maybe the stage was being made while Mario Maker was still in development...?
Maybe mario maker 2 was already in production by the time ultimate was being finalised and took ideas from there ? This video is only nitpicking and weird rant honestly
@@Reshi9984 That came after world
12:39 Ironically, that stage (N64 Peach's Castle) Heavily resembles Super Mario 64, but its labeled as just Super Mario
Yeah those are my exact thoughts lol
SHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In japan, the stage is called “Above Peach’s Castle”
SHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah the 64 version
@SHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i mean, we also have
Mushroom Kingdom
Mushroom Kingdom II
Mushroomy Kingdom
Mushroom Kingdom U
With the Yoshi's Island thing, I wish the melee one could have a different name like Dinosaur Land or Donut Plains, but Yoshi's Island (on Super Mario World) is where Yoshi debuted, so... Yeah
@SHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just 2, the SSB64 version was renamed to Super Happy Tree.
The way you pronounced Hydreigon made me physically hurt
I’m sorry for causing you physical pain, I would suggest going to the nearest hospital for help ;(
*HYDREEJIN*
Hy- dra - gon
@@jdizzle4522 if you wanna get nitpicky, it should actually be hy-DRY-gon, because of the deino line having names that count to 3 in german. dEINo, ZWEIlous, hyDREIgon.
Cj Miller sorry
For the spirit, Mr Sandman has 3 stars, when mucho man has 4 stars, even tho Mr Sandman can beat the crap out of him.
I think it refers to how it was pre-Punch Out Wii...
@@X2011racer but it uses Wii Art Work
Mr. Sandman has the type advantage, and Super Macho Man is on the weaker side of legend spirits, so I think whoever designed their spirits recognized that Mr. Sandman can beat Super Macho Man
It depends on the game. In Wii, Sandman is at the top, but in NES and Super, he’s behind. In Super’s case, further behind. So Super Macho Man has been better the majority of the time, and has had the biggest lead between the two at any time.
you know the ranking of spirit is about how good they are as a spirit and not a character in their game
5:25 What responsibilities did you neglect to be able dedicate so much time to this project that you found a discrepancy in the official lineart of a nipper plant?
This is my favorite comment
Olimar has no voice clips, despite being so vocal in his games that “Hey! Pikmin” is named after what he says in the game, having astounding grammar, and having his VA shared with Yoshi.
The same happens with Isabelle, who has her gibberish-y voice even in mario kart.
Olimars better voice in my opinion is in pikmin 3 since hey pikmin came out after that and honestly sounds worse
Agreed
@@Cringe89563 he also had a voice in pikmin 2 when you switched to him or his idle noise would make him say his name
@@Audamix80 oh i know that i played pikmin 2 like 7 times but pikmin 4 uses that clip (along with louies) in mission mode and his voice in the cutcene is very similar to that voice
There's another inaccuracy in Palutena's Guidance paired with Pit's new Final Smash.
The Guidance for Dark Pit has Viridi say that Pittwo works for her now, and she also says the Lightning Chariot is under their control... but if that was the case... why does Pit have it as a Final Smash? Shouldn't Dark Pit have it, While Pit keeps the Three Sacred Treasures?
That would make more sense with the Guidance, considering tht this is pretty much canon to the Kid Icarus story.
Another reason why Pit should've kept the Three Sacred Treasures as his Final Smash and why Dark Pit should've gotten the Lightning Chariot. :P
The reason Pit has the Lighting Chariot is because Ultimate has subtly implied that Dark Pit has betrayed Viridi and joined Palutena's Army.
He probably stole the Lighting Chariot.
It really sucks that the Palutena's guidance wasn't updated to reflect that.
@@MrRoMaGi Was it implied? All I can think of is the intro of World of Light where Palutena gives Dark Pit the Power of Flight. Are you sure you're not looking too deep into that? It'd make no sense if Viridi was in that cutscene anyway.
Also Viridi and Palutena are pretty buddy-buddy with each other, so it wouldn't make sense for Dark Pit to "betray" her in favor of Palutena's Army. If it were really the case, they'd change the Guidance and change the clor of his Power of Flight. They wouldn't just change a plot point between Smash games, since they'd have no reason to.
@@MrRoMaGi It would still make more sense for Pittwo to have it, even then.
@@codytoeung5089 Palutena and Viridi are still enemies. Viridi even says that the war isn't over yet in the Dark Pit guidance.
Anyways, Smash isn't canon to Kid Icarus because of Subspace having Pit be 3D and Kid Icarus constantly making references to the fact that he turned from pixels to a 3D model in Uprising and not Smash. Palutena also participates in Smash but didn't know the name.
13:50 They also say that mii gunner still has a backpack with weapons and stuff inside, the same from Smash 4.
Those stages aren't really innacurate. That's what you call a designer's choice. Also Yoshi was debuted in that stage so why not? Mario alreafy has a lot of stages
plus Yoshi isn't a separate franchise, it's a subseries under the Mario franchise ( as are DK & Wario ). Smash has them under separate symbols to represent their individual series' but they're all under a singular franchise at the end of the day.
@@newageBoundhippie From Donkey Kong Country forward there are no connections between Mario and Donkey Kong tho.
I think Donkey Kong has become It's own feanchise...
@@jabariwiththebois5765 then explain Mario Vs DK, every multiplayer Mario spin-off and New Donk City...your comment seriously just comes off like when people claim the MCU TV shows aren't actually in the MCU simply because the movies don't reference them. Just because they don't go out of their way to flaunt their connections doesn't mean they suddenly became separate franchises
@@newageBoundhippie You know what? Scratch my response, why do you say that Donkey Kong is a Mario character?
@UCCBfj_kDhWt9HiuTphc-aIQ technically yes, Donkey Kong would be the origin point but given the insane popularity & recognition Mario has he tends to get the overall franchise billing. series & franchise aren't interchangeable terms, Mario & DK are part of the same overall franchise regardless of what banner you put them under. and you continue to prove my point regarding the MCU comparison...but I guess a more apt comparison would have been the actual comics. X-Men, Spider-Man, Daredevil...all introduced new characters within their respective series but at the end of the day they're all still part of the same franchise ( Marvel superheroes ).
Sorry that this video came out a few hours late but luckily I was still able to drop in tonight, hope you all enjoy!!
Almost 20k subs you weren't even at 100 when we made videos that's crazy
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ok
12:11 error
Dude what happens to your sub count it went down fast
10:12 *casual B-reverse*
sometimes you just gotta do it lol
@@Odyssey_Central haha yeah I got u
@SlushCloudYT oh no I find it quite easy as well, I'm just saying hes using a special technique in casual background gameplay
13:42 True, but I think they are referring to how Mario is considered to be more superior than him. That's just me though.
It says "being number two out of all these fighters is still pretty good", which the "pretty good" part in my opinion makes no sense if the comment is about mario being superior.
@Cadeboy 13 ok you don't need to comment twice about it
Cloud has quite a few
He slashes his sword five times when using cross slash compared to ff7's 3
Climhazard doesn't go down in ff7
The blade beam animation is different
Ff7 has more than 2 songs
If climhazzard didnt go down, cloud would be in G tier. Kek
FF7 Fans when they see that last one: (Laughs in pain)
I think in Smash it's Climbhazard when going up and Braver going down
@@Chernobog2 many. I kinda always thought f-air was supposed to be braver
the last one is square enix inaccuracies
4:19 Well, no; Squirtle, Ivysaur and Charizard represent Water, Grass/Poison, and Fire/Flying.
Fun fact: Bulbasaur was the only Starter to have two types throughout its entire evolutionary line (that is, never started as a single type, only to gain another in its second or third forms), until Sun/Moon, which introduced Rowlet. This also means the only two Starters to have a dual typing in their base forms are both Grass-types. Rowlet is also the only Starter to lose a typing and gain another, in this case dropping Flying for Ghost when it becomes Decidueye.
0:25 Actually, he kinda did something like that in the Mario & Luigi RPG series. Just a fun fact, not trying to nitpick.
Gabe Barnes oh he did? I didn’t know that when did he do this? Thanks for the info!
This link shows it: th-cam.com/video/FsgHksroyI8/w-d-xo.html
4:51 At the end of the move, Fire Bros Adv, Mario slam dunks a charged up fireball in a similar way to how Mario slam dunks opponents in Smash Bros.
0:35 Mario also does his Side Smash in the same game called a hand move.
@@gabebarnes6814 Those games came after Super Smash Bros though, right?
In the Raikou, Entei and Suicune spirit fight it plays the Red and Blue medley instead of the Gold and Silver medley, that’s borderline insulting.
16:15
The annual mating of the shy guys.
gaymer i misread that
Few more inaccuracies: ness and Lucas having pk fire and pk thunder even though they can't learn those moves.
Lucina being the same height as chrom(chrom's spouse to be taller than lucina)
Pichu taking damage from skull bash and agility(non electric moves)
Silver in green hill zone.(knuckles and tails make a little bit more sense because they're genesis characters)
Snake's final smash us used by venom snake,not solid snake.
Adult Rock Howard and classic Terry being on the same stage
The king of fighters stadium being labeled as a fatal fury stage instead of a KOF stage
Pikachu Weighting more than Mewtwo
Rosalina being a Lightweight (In Mario Kart, she is a Heavyweight)
Ridley weighting less than a Plant
Luigi not being able to Wall-Jump
The list goes on
Ness and Lucas’s ability to use PK fire and thunder is explained in their trophies in brawl or smash 4 where it’s hinted that Paula/Kumatura taught them those moves. It’s more of a creative freedom thing from the developers.
@@superyoshiverde7911 They're more like design choices than inaccuracies.
Ness & Lucas using Starstorm is way worse of an inaccuracy...at least in Ultimate it can be easily assumed that it's actually Poo or Kumatora using it on Ness or Lucas's order now that the party members join in the Final Smash animation. The other PSI powers could feasibly be learned from Paula, Poo & Kumatora, but Starstorm can only be learned by specific chosen individuals within the actual lore of the Mother/EarthBound franchise
The King of Fighters tournament originated in Fatal Fury.
But here's another one: Robin using Nosferatu as a Tactician.
There is another one, a small inacuraccy with Peach's and Daisy's final smashes, in the picture in the move list in their final smashes images they don't have yellow eyes, but in actual gameplay they do have yellow eyes
Oooh interesting!
I think it's a design choice, because the move is supposed to be somewhat seductive or calming to lull the opponents to sleep, and menacing yellow eyes are the opposite of that
The spirit power isn’t used to represent the power of the character, rather, it represents the power of the effect they give. Using the Mushroom/Fire Flower example, the Super Mushroom is registered as 2 star because that’s the power level if it’s effect to boost your stats while eating food, and the Fire Flower is 1 star because it gives the Fire Flower item, which is initially more powerful, but has very limited use, while the food buff stays for the whole battle (the boost itself fades, but can be regained any time by eating again)
This was wonderfully-done, and possibly one of my new favorite kinds of videos, besides reviews!
I'm surprised you didn't make any references to the names and origins of the songs in the soundtrack, though I suppose that would probably make up an entire video on its own. Maybe a sequel video?
It's too early in the morning for me to list too many inaccuracies off the top of my head, but one that just popped into my mind is from some of the Banjo-Kazooie content.
-Some of the cameo characters in Spiral Mountain don't actually appear in the real Spiral Mountain in the original Banjo-Kazooie. Mumbo Jumbo doesn't have his hut there in either game, but does make an appearance in Banjo-Tooie's opening. The Jinjos don't appear in Spiral Mountain at all in Banjo-Kazooie, and there's only one in Tooie, not the whole army that appears. Also, the Buzzbombs don't appear until Bubblegloop Swamp. Certainly not bashing the DLC, by any means (they were my number one pick for fighters), but wanted to continue the list as best I could while I was exhausted.
12:12 “I think there may be an inaccuracy with Odyssey Central here!” It’s Marth not Byleth!!!
Wait, what's the difference?
CONGRATULATIONS, YOU UNDERSTOOD THE JOKE.
Nathan
Fun fact, Hydreigons name inpronounced like Hi-dry-gon because each member of the evolution line has a different number of heads, and in there names is the german number for there heads. dEINo, ZWEIlous and hyDREIgon have eins, zwei, and drei in there names
12:14
"Up Smash from *bYlEtH* "
Marth: cries in fire emblem
I feel like it was a missed oppourntunity to include a G.U.N. reference when it came to Sonic's turn on Snake's codec.
I agree
I subscribed cuz I want to help you out, keep up the good work homie :)
You forgot to mention how Magicant says it's from earthbound, even though it's technically based on Earthbound beginnings.
Even weirder is that the distinction is made in the Japanese version
It's not based, it IS from Earthbound Begginings
@@jabariwiththebois5765 Yeah, I know. That's what I meant.
12:10 "bowser dies 2% earlyer to byleth from a upsmash"...but thats marth
No tHatS ByLOtH ArE U StOopId??!?
Joke Alert
Stupid that’s Robin
I am sorry but what I am seeing there is a Lucina
Your all wrong it’s actually fire Marth.
Dude, I could've sworn you only had a few hundred subs the last time I seen you lol. Your channel has been growing pretty quick. GG!🙂👍
that was the first video i've seen from you and i have to say it was pretty dam good
13:26 What? No they don’t. The idea is that Luigi is always right behind Mario, but since he’s right behind Mario, he’s still got a good place. This has NOTHING to do with character selection.
In the guidance it says "number two out of ALL these fighters", so I don't think your logic checks out.
Bye or Die All that means is that she’s referring to everyone. The thing he said is a huge leap of logic. All just means everyone, my point stands.
@@tuxedobird no she clearly is including all the characters
stormy What do you think “everyone” meant in my comment? Yeah, she meant all characters, but there was no mention of any character selection.
Number 2 of ALL THESE FIGHTERS IS MARIO MULTIPLE FIGHTERS THAT HAVE EACH HAVE DIFFERENT COLOR ALTS AND NUMBERS AND ARE IN DIFFERENT SERIES your logic lacks there A LOT
They only used the brawl voice clips for snake because the voice actor for him died
@Nin ko oh thats always what i was told why he couldnt do any more of those cutscenes
@Nin ko oh yeah youre right, sorry
Colonel’s actor died*
Colonels JAPANESE VA died so they left it alone
Even if he didn't I'd bet David wouldn't want to do Snake agian
This week, on Odyssey Central: A guy nit-picks everything in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
4:15 all I can hear is Max Tennyson from Ben 10
14:08 damn, Pit X Link confirmed
Uhh no Pit just being supported to the boys
Jesus no
15:39 gone reduced to atoms
The yoshi inaccuracy can also be found in the music list. A Mario world 1 track is in the yoshi series section.
8:44 it didn't made sense for me either but then realized lugia was primary and ho-oh was support, that should explain why ho-oh is above, for the power to be equally, ho-oh had to be buffed up
13:30 He's Actually the 9th
Well 10 if echoes and ogs are seperate
Yeah, dark samus
did anyone else realize he said byleths up smash when it was marth?
RazzleWorkshop no you’re wrong, it was actually chrom’s up smash
Alex T. CHROM IS CHROM
First time watching you and I i have to say this is quality content
You mentioned so many really trivial inaccuracies but ignored that MOST things in Smash are innaccurate to their respective series in Smash...like Olimar is canonically smaller than a quarter and Kirby should be about as big as a softball but both stand at like 3 - 4 feet tall in Smash and even within individual series everything is wrong. Young Link stands at the same height as regular Link and the Kokiri Sword is way longer than it should be, and the whole Mario cast has innacurate body proportions with Peach, Daisy, and Rosalina getting the worst of it by the game going out of its way to make them look more human and proportionate. Heck some characters have been changed so extensively with small little tweaks that they don't even look right like Bowser and Donkey Kong...
Frankly as a series all about representing other series, Smash doesn't really do the best job.
I didn’t mention stuff like heights because they did they best they could. They’re creative liberties made to make smash better because if olimar was his actual height the game just wouldn’t work. Their heights and weights are made how the perspective of their games make them look
StuffZ he focused on the stars of Pokémon too much but those are only rated the way they are is because there are other franchises in the game
What a coincidence all Spirits going from 2-3 Stars are legendaries or Psudoes
In shulks final smash there are four characters despite only 3 being actually usable in a chain attack at the same time, also Fiora shouldn’t be there as she isn’t in the party at any point when shulk has the monado’s first form
The Monado would probably have the power of its final form, if it can affect all opponents.
KurisuBlaze them again it only doesn’t effect Homs in its original form, not all biological life
@@cadas2366 It doesn't affect gods in its initial form, either, and Palutena still takes hits.
KurisuBlaze again that only applies in xenoblades world, a god in xenoblade is far different from what palutana is
Your video and mic quality has improved
One inaccuracy I've noticed is that Rooftop Run is said to come from Sonic Generations instead of Unleashed. I know the remix is from Generations but other songs that use remixes from other games will state where the original theme came from as shown with the many Castlevania songs.
Great now I can’t see the game the same.
Do you watch Did you get some of these from P-jiggles since the you said you watch him
He may have mentioned a few of these before but I got most of these my own. I believe he may have mentioned the luigi alt one
@@Odyssey_Central He mentioned all three I think...
I think that Ho-Oh being in a higher Spirit Class than Lugia might be a nod to how gold is seen as more valuable than silver.
I’m pretty sure the environment for the great plateau is a texture/skybox, rather than a model, while having all of NDC modeled would add more overhead
11:20 YES!!
Now that Byleth (a First party character from a Franchise already represented in Smash) made it in, the chances of Dry Bones making it in are a little higher.
Dry Bones for smash ftw
if we get another mario character on the roster it's going to be the 3rd party owned geno
@@terrysyvertson9205 sorry, but Geno is already a spirit, I highly doubt it
Now, if he does make it in, then welp, I'll gladly receive him with open hands
So is dry bones
@@jackfahey3740 dry bones had no spirit, it not represented at all in Smash Bros
WHY IS THIS A THING I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY PERSON TO EVEN IMAGINE DRYBONES FOR S,ASH
Another inaccurate character model is Bowser. Seriously, look at his render, and then look at his in-game model. The colors are WAY off, the scale texture is different, the hair is different, etc.
Is this a joke?
Leon_4505 Nope, completely serious.
@@cobravenom1316 Yeah It's really weird!
For the Pokémon you can pronounce here are their pronunciations
Uxie=Youk-see
Mesprit=Mess-Sprit
Azelf=As-elf
Cobalion=Koh-Ball-E-Yon
Terrakion=Ter-Rak-E-Yon
Virizion=Ver-I-Zee-Yon
8:49 counterpoint: have you SEEN Keldeo in Smash? He’s one of the best Pokémon there is.
How about when during Dark Pit's guidance, Viridi stated that the Lightning chariot is under her control, but Pit uses it in his final smash now🤔
6:23 was I the only one watching the number expecting the nice?
I wasn't aware there were numbers lol
Woh I didn't pay attention to that although I had seen the ''nice''
Some of these are pretty interesting details that would normally escape the eye, but I couldn't stop the feeling that I was listening to a guy just bitching about how his favorite pokemon was not correctly rated or how the Mario Maker wouldn't allow to do angles in platforms.
The classes are based on how powerful their spirit effects are in Smash. They have nothing to do with canon power levels. Zygarde, for instance, doesn’t have any in-battle abilities since it can be enhanced.
very nitpicky
Yes, you’ve found the point of the video lol
@@Odyssey_Central everyone who watched the video understood the point of it, but some of the "Inaccuracies" weren't even inaccurate. things that were simply redrawn were put in here just to pad for time
Evilmoster man they were put in here because I found them interesting.
A small inaccuracy I know of is how in Garreg Mach, Dimitri and Claude have their retainers while Hubert (Edelgards retainer) is nowhere to be seen.
well at this point, hubert might just be scheming something which is why he isn't in the stage XD
well Edelgard has Dorothea & Petra with her so I call that a win...Hubert kind of creeps me out anyway ( really can't blame Bernadetta for her reactions to him.... )
Thanos: *snaps
New Donk City: Mushroom Kingdom, I don't feel so good
Very great video! Though, I feel a lot of these "inaccuracies" are creative liberties, much like the characters' moves. A lot of them are mostly for aesthetics, simplicity, or for gameplay.
I may be over analyzing and over criticizing, but here I go anyway:
The Pokemon stages are labeled with two games because they are paired games that wouldn't be right with just one. Also the Super Mario Galaxy logos are pretty big, at least vertically to really fit in the box.
Though not an inaccuracy, a line in Link's codec involving his clawshot was removed, since he doesn't have it anymore. It could've at least pointed out how they could remove parts of the codec.
You mentioned how female Pokemon Trainer has the male's codec, but not Alph having a similar treatment? Yet, Radiant Dawn Ike gets the codecs disabled on him.
Also, how can you forget the whole Masked Man spirit situation?! That's a pretty big deal despite being a small mistake. XD
I think I just got carried away going through all of this. :P
prince of sable just transforms into his frog and snake form but in his game he needs to be in water to turn into a frog,eat a snake egg for his snake form,and eat a joy fruit to become a human
Blue hair, fire emblem, fancy sword,
yeah thats Byleth
5:33 “although to me, that seems a bit unnecessary” oh yeah of course having upgraded graphics for an image because the image was made in the 90’s is really unnecessary in a polished game that came out in 2018
SDW Samix oh now that you say it like that it makes sOoOo much more sense. Tell me, why hasn’t every piece of old art been updated?
@@Odyssey_Central For the Nipper Plant, it makes sense that they would close the line, as they made the spirit with a transparent background, and it would look weird to have transparency start in the gap of the outline.
@@Odyssey_Central Cuz its a very simple thing to fix. It's so insignificant I doubt they even noticed there was an issue with the original version in the first place lol
One inaccuracy that I found wierd is that for Richter’s fighter spirit shows the Dracula X Chronicles artwork instead of the Rondo of Blood artwork, which is what he is based of.
The spirit thing with the stars, especially the secondary spirts, are based on their affect, in which the extra jump is much better than some of the others, like, random example, meloetta
Okay I’m not sure if this counts but the jump/lightweight spirits should improve jump height, but when Donkey Kong carries an opponent while having jump/lightweight spirits, when he jumps, there won’t be any height boost. This is weird because the lightweight spirits also increase moving speed and Donkey Kong does move faster still when holding an opponent. It’s just the jump height that has no effect.
I think another inaccuracy with Super Mario Maker stage is with the purple test blocks you stand on when starting the match. They behave differently than how they actually work in the original games.
Ah, and also, a few inaccuracies I found out myself:
•Inklings can only recover ink when in squid form AND inside their own ink (Meanwhile, in Smash, you can recover ink anywhere you want)
•Inklings "die" on contact with water (in Smash they just take damage due to balancing purposes, most likely)
I don't think that Sakurai's team got that many instructions when making that Mario Maker stage since it was apparently being worked on before the game was even announced. (If I remember correctly, the Mario Maker remix that plays on this stage, and that Duck Hunt Medley was in the files long before DLC was announced in Smash 4.)
The Mario 3 overworld theme you used in this is a messed up version, as only one of the channels were playing
I just noticed this now, but the Great Plateau Tower stage actually is missing the Magnesis Shrine, and it was still there in the original game even if you didn't activate the Great Plateau Tower, not to mention we also don't see the pond next to it, so even if it was out of view, we would still see the pond next to it.
Can you make another video going over inconsistancies of moves and aspects of characters? Stuff like Ness and Lucas having moves that belong to party members. Or how Link's bomb shouldn't blow up when contacted by regular fire. Those kinds of facts are what I expected from the video, but I still enjoyed it.
One little inaccuracy you missed is that, and you’ll only see this if you look really carefully, the Shy Guy’s karts don’t switch out of anti gravity mode when on parts of Mario Circuit that don’t have it, like at the starting line. The anti gravity only kicks in at the bridge.
While judging and swapping Pokemon spirit ranks is fine and dandy, the reason spirits are ranked as such is due to the benefit they provide (if a supoort spirit). So, while it's fine to insist a primary spirit rank swap, support spirit rank swaps can't really happen, as the bonus given by the spirit is linked to what the spirit represents, so you can't say bump Jeff down a notch since whatever benefit he'd get would make less sense than Jamming the FS charge.
Fun fact, Arcfire in the Fire Emblem games looks absolutely nothing like it does in Robin’s side-special.
In Fire Emblem Fates, after the release of Smash 4, using the Robin Amiibo gave you the chance to get a special tome named Robin’s Primer, which has an extremely similar appearance to Robin’s side-special.
I don’t know about you, but I love when Smash Bros inspires a change in a main series rather than the other way around, like with Kirby’s “Smash” ability or the entirety of Kid Icarus Uprising.
Also on the codec calls, they mention how slow Bowser is even though his transition from Brawl to Smash 4 (And then on to Ultimate) he becomes the top 10 fastest characters in the game. On the ground anyway.
One that's always bugged me since Brawl is how there's a tree on the Spear Pillar stage. In the games it's from, the Spear Pillar is a desolate place devoid of life.
Robin using nosferatu spell despite not being able to wield dark mage in his game unless he changed his class
For the star inconsistencies with the spirits, they might be labeled by how hard the spirits are to obtain.
Since this video came out, they actually fixed the problem with the Monastery stage having a different blast line than the other Battlefield or Omega stage versions.
with the snake codet calls, i think its a reference/tribute to brawl
There's also one in Mii Gunner's Guidance from Palutena. It says that they have a backpack that stores their ammo, but the default outfit removed it in Ultimate
They patched out the inaccurate dialogue.
For the Pokémon trios whose names you couldn't pronounce they are collectively known as the Lake Guardian trio and the Swords of Justice respectively
definitely the easiest way to mention them in the event of not wanting to mess up pronunciations
Just an option! But some of these I don’t think are in accuracies I think some are just different and give it more aesthetic but I love the vids!
I feel like the tiers of the spirits aren’t “inaccurate” in that it didn’t necessarily have any direct connection to in-game powers and didn’t attempt to reflect them. For example, the mushroom is probably higher than the fire flower because it’s more iconic.
You’re on the right track, but it’s actually due to in-game balance.
The mushroom is ranked higher than the fire flower because it’s a *much* better item in Ultimate. The mushroom makes your hit boxes twice as big and gives extra damage and knock back, meanwhile the fire flower just gives you a mediocre small projectile.
Something that worries me is that Dark Star, Elder Princess Shroob, Dimentio (final form), Cackletta’s soul, and other non-Bowser final bosses in Mario RPGs don’t have spirits. Especially Dark Star, since his theme song (The Grand Finale) is present.
Here's an inaccuracy! Shulk's final smash is based on Chain Attacks from Xenoblade 1. In the game, you need a full party of 3 to preform a chain attack, since that's the limit. In Smash 4, it featured Riki and Dunban, making a full party. Though, because they added Fiora to his final smash in Ultimate, there are four people in the party when the Chain Attack is preformed.
Anyone else notice that Daisy pulls a Bomb-omb at 1:35? I just wanted to point that out because it's a 1/250 chance, and i thought is was interesting.
12:26 Maybe it's because SM64 was the only game at the time of Melee's release where the castle looks like that. Also, I like how the explanation for how the Odyssey is there is Mario used a glitch to speedrun (too bad it still doesn't work).