its so weird to me that pre-dlc spirits refuse to have the characters using the default alt for spirit battles, it makes some of them really weird as the default skin wouldve been the most fitting alt to go with them
I’m pretty sure it’s because the alts are the “fake” version of the characters since the default ones would be the “real” versions of the characters? that’s just what I always assumed at least
@@mdnaz9889 they’re talking about how no spirit battles use a characters default costume unless the spirit battle is from a DLC character’s spirit board
I think it’s for the lore accuracy, because spirits canonically use clones of the fighters instead of actual fighters, which is why they use alternate costumes to distinguish between the “real” fighter and “fake” spirit fighters. hope this helps
I agree with Gooey being the black alt. Gooey is a very dark blue and Kirby's blue alt doesn't fit that. Plus, Gooey's a Dark Matter, so it just lines up.
One spirit I'd fix is the Pac-Man Ghosts, because they're all represented by a different character and don't look similar at all (including Pac-Man himself representing one for some reason??), but there are 4 Kirby alts that look EXACTLY like each Ghost's original design, so I don't understand why it is the way it is now.
@CoralCopperHead That's not the point. Sure there could be other similar spirit fights, but I'd rather have the fight be accurate to the character it's trying to be rather than be different. If it needs to have something, maybe you can have Pac-Man as an ally who you can't let die like some other ones, y'know?
I just want to mention that the only reason the Ribbon Girl spirit battle was changed was because she NEVER had a battle before the ARMs DLC. She was only craftable before. But I guess they decided to add Spring Man and Ribbon Girl to the board in order to have the full cast.
For Flash Man's spirit, the Timer item is used to represent his weapon, the Time Stopper...even though Shadow the Hedgehog stops opponents in place for a brief moment after slowing them down in Ultimate, which is a much better match for the Time Stopper than the Timer.
That would also reference how Akechi himself is far too jealous of Joker and is a foil to him, so using Joker is far better. If the Akechi battle was hard, that works even better because then it would really show Goro Akechi up. He would think “even possessed Joker fights better than me?” And curse him out in a Saturday Morning Cartoon Villain manner.
Ignoring the Geno Mii Costume since it was added later, Sheik was still a pretty lousy way to represent Geno in his Spirit Battle. I personally think the best possible option would have been Mega Man in his brown alt
Just so you know, the reason why Mallow is Robin is because Mallow is the mage of the team, able to use various elements for attacks. So you're kinda right that Kirby is closer to the look and Robin is closer to the function
Which is why it makes sense for they're to be two different versions, of course Mallow's spirit would pick a body closer fit for his fighting style, meanwhile Geno's spirit just copied Kirby's body to represent his good ol' pal Mallow!
One other one I’d personally fix is fawful, i feel like it would be much better to face a giant kirby in his dark alt, who will spawn after you defeat bowser in his blue alt (who will turn giant after taking a lot of damage)
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of Fawful from the Mario and Luigi Series. We should add a Pink Donkey Kong as a minion to represent Midbus.
I made a spirit battle for every boss in SMO :) Madame Broodal: Peach in red alt with a large golden PAC Man Topper: Luigi in normal colors Harriet: Daisy in blue alt and the only items are explosives Rango: Yellow mega man that spans neutral special Spewart: Donkey Kong with white alt and poison floor Knuckletoc: Kirby in blue alt with an invisible little mac who only uses neutral B with icy floor Torkdrift: White ROB with the blow vacuum item Mechawiggler: Purple Yoshi with super scope in reference to the tanks used to fight the mechawiggler Mollusque-Lanceur: Purple inkling who mostly uses up+B but can use other moves Cookatiel: Falco with red alt with a lava floor Ruined Dragon: Ridley in default colors with electric floor Bowser: Bowser with a lava floor Mechabroodal: Large ROB with green/brown alt with 3 small red falcos, with only explosives and the ROB is distracted by explosives
@@keeboreebo7042 Also I think Ridley fits the Ruined Dragon a lot better, seeing as it’s a realistic thing that’s very out of place. Also, PAC-MAN should be gold as well, because Chain Chompikins is a golden Chain Chomp
For the Blooper spirit, I would love to change the Inklings running away from you to fighting you. No way they avoid you in the Mario platformers, they are the bane of my existence in water levels. Edit: Blooper is not in the vid sadly
the bloopers try to swim above your height you can avoid them using that trick in the super mario series the inkling running away from you could be better in combination with them jumping a lot
@@supermaximglitchy1 NO it wont because the Bloopers dont run away from you at all because the reason whey jump is the way they swim OR float in mid air.
I realised that the Nipper Plant Spirit Battle should be against 8 Tiny White and Grey Piranha Plants on the Battlefield Super Mario Maker Stage which will be stuck in its Super Mario Bros. 3 Form instead of its Super Mario World Form
Actually, the ghast being metallic/artificial has some lore significance. In an official book that officially confirmed a bunch of theories to be true (such as the creeper having a TNT inside of it and being plant like) also directly shows us that a ghast is made of redstone components. This is straight up an official source of lore too btw.
the reason the spirits you listed are not in their default costumes are because they appear in World of Light, I belive that spirits that only appear on the spirit board can use the charecters default. it makes sense lore-wise why charecters can't appear with their default costumes in WOL
shadow isnt in world of light i think, and yet he's represented by a light blue sonic (if it was meant to represent the actual sonic then why wouldnt they have changed the alt to default sonic?)
@@dark.syndrome i'm pretty sure sonic is supposed to reperesent sonic in Sonic Adventure 2, it looks like the light blue sonic has some of the ability items that sonic had in sa2
I think the reason Waluigi is fought on Peach's Castle is because of the bumper, which is one of the hazards in Waluigi's Pinball course. Gooey is dark blue so I think dark Kirby actually fits better than light blue Kirby. It might even be a nod to Gooey's relation to Dark Matter.
There are over 1000 spirit battles in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate which means that some of them are intently going certain errors and mistakes. Toady, I'm going to cover a few of the spirit battles that I would change in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate and how I would fix them, whether it be by changing the character, their alternate costume, conditions, rules, stages, the items and even adding in DLC.
Yea, and Rayquaza is a Primary Ace Spirit, the chance for Mega Rayquaza was right there! Or to be honest they probably didn’t include it to not remind us of the Days of Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire Online Battles. And in case your wondering Mega Rayquaza was banned even from Ubers to a Tier of its own.
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of Deku Link from the Legend of Zelda Series. The Green Diddy Kong is very close to Deku Link, because Deku Link is a Zelda Character, so it's given a Default Young Link or Default Toon Link as the fighter. One of the conditions in the Deku Link spirit battle showcases that the enemy favors neutral specials which makes no sense, because it means that the enemy which is Default Young Link or Default Toon Link will start the battle with a Deku Nut.
One that I feel needs a change is the Smoky Progg cause outside the Stage it makes no sense at all Mario as a fighter makes no sense given it's a frog like creature so give it a K Rool or Ivysaur for the fighter. Making it occasionally be metal I mean its immune to poison but it literally emits poison gas from its body as it walks so change it to a Poison floor or fog (to represent the smoke). Also its boost as a spirit to give the player Urina (idk how to spell it) makes no sense when again Poison based stuff is a mechanic in the game. And if the issue is that it's the first spirit in the game... then put a Mario spirit first and just put the Smoky Progg a bit later
@@dazcarrr While that's true it's not iconic it still feels dumb that lots of spirits (even ones that are even lesser known) have more accurate fights than it
@@pokefanalex9504 i was saying that as a point towards a different first fight, because smoky progg is in no way a "first enemy" character, and is also practically unheard of outside a relatively small group of people i phrased it a little weirdly
Wouldn't one of the Belmonts be better for the Hammer Bros spirit because of the Axe? I mean it travels in the same arc as it, it goes through blocks, and is closer to a hammer than Yoshis egg.
@@iantaakalla8180 Fair enough. Yoshi looks more like a Hammer Bro than the Belmonts (and is as equally annoying). However I always thought the process of spirits went down a ladder of importance of sorts. I.E they base the battle on the moveset similarity before basing it of looks
The Spirit Battle for The Odyssey is actually programmed wrong. The conditions list says it uses the "enemy is hard to launch" condition, but in the actual battle, the "easy to launch" effect is applied instead. This can be easily seen by the fact that the easy to launch effect makes the launch physics floatier, while the hard to launch effect makes the physics stiffer. It also increases the knockback the opponent (Jigglypuff) takes from set knockback moves like the first hit of Chrom's up B, and in Ultimate, set knockback moves ignore all knockback modifiers in the game EXCEPT the easy to launch effect in Spirit Battles. I think this actually breaks the Spirit Battle, as the other conditions are that Jigglypuff is giant and she shields often. If the hard to launch effect were applied properly, Jigglypuff would be a lot more resistant to knockback, so the easiest way to KO her within the time limit would likely be to break her shield, which as we all know KO's Jigglypuff instantly. Perhaps this represents the Odyssey getting damaged and crashing...idk but this seems to be how you were INTENDED to beat the Spirit Battle, but because they applied the wrong effect, Jigglypuff is trivially easy to KO normally.
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of the Smoky Progg from the Pikmin Series. Mario in his black costume as a fighter makes no sense, because the Smoky Progg is a frog like creature, so we should use a Green Greninja as the fighter. Both the condition and rule showcase that the enemy will occasionally turn metal which makes no sense, because it means that the floor is poison or the stage is covered in fog. We should add another condition in the Smoky Progg spirit battle which includes some unira items.
I think the reason that the Shadow spirit is represented by Sonic alt 3, is because Shadow did originate in Sonic Adventure 2, and since Sonic didn’t have his Soap Shoes in the game, but the Crystal rings on Sonic r actually a reference to what he wears in the first Adventure game, so I guess it kinda makes sense, but then again it’s weird they didn’t use the black alt
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of Mallow from Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars. Mallow in his spirit battle should be represented by three Grey Kirbys instead of three White and Red Male Robins just like in Geno's spirit battle. I remove two conditions in Mallow's spirit battle and I put one which showcases that you should take your strongest team into this no-frills battle.
9:01 Also, if 9:02 I find it really funny how Petey Piranha from his appearance in the Super Mario Strikers Series got a spirit battle but the main version of him doesn't have a spirit battle.
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of Young Zelda from the Legend of Zelda Series. For Zelda in her tiny form in the Young Zelda spirit battle, she's in her purple costume which is a bit close to Young Zelda, because Young Zelda from Ocarina of Time has blonde hair, so Zelda should use her violet costume instead of her purple costume. For Young Link in the Young Zelda spirit battle, he's in his red costume which doesn't make sense as only Adult Link is able to wear the goron tunic, so he should use his default costume.
I guest that it makes sense that we shouldn't fix the spirit battle of Malon from the Legend of Zelda Series, because her spirit battle is against Zelda in her white costume instead of her purple costume on the Smashville stage with Cucco items and milk bottles.
I realised that we have to fix the spirit battle of the Odyssey from the Super Mario Series. One of the conditions showcases that the enemy is hard to launch which makes no sense, because it means that the enemy is easy to launch which is a reference in Super Mario Odyssey, because the Odyssey is easy to launch and I even change the stage to be Battlefield New Donk City Hall instead of Normal Rainbow Cruise in the Odyssey spirit battle, because the Odyssey lives in Metro Kingdom in Super Mario Odyssey.
I can understand your issue with the defaults being better, but I think the reason Sakurai went with changing palettes a lot was to link with World of Light's lore on spirits and the clones. I personally didn't mind that decisions since I do like details that make things more fleshed and planned out, but I can see where the issue lies. Side note, I love that game mode, despite what the fanbase says.
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of Professor Chops from the Donkey Kong Series. We should add a Pink Donkey Kong as the main fighter to represent Professor Chops himself.
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of the Chain Chomp from the Super Mario Series. The Metal Black Pac-Man is very close to the Chain Chomp because we should use a Mii Brawler wearing the Chain Chomp Hat and the Black Standard Outfit who will not become metal as the fighter. One of the conditions showcases that the enemy favors side specials which makes no sense, because it means that the enemy which is the Mii Brawler wearing the Chomp Hat and Black Standard Outfit will favor neutral which is Flashing Mach Punch.
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of Peachette from the Super Mario Series. Yellow Toad in Peachette's spirit battle should be represented by the Mii Brawler wearing the yellow Toad Outfit and the Toad Hat instead of the Super Mushroom Hat.
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of Alucard from the Castlevania Series. The Indigo Simon Belmont is very close to Alucard, because we should use a Default Sephiroth as the fighter.
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of Rex from the Xenoblade Chronicles Series. The Blue Shulk is very close to Rex because it's given a Mii Brawler wearing Rex's costume as the fighter. I change the Red Lucina to be Default Pyra in the Rex spirit battle. The Rex spirit battle has a stage change after the DLC to be Omega Cloud Sea of Alrest instead of Omega Kongo Falls which makes sense.
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of Lakitu and Spiny from the Super Mario Series. Spiny should be represented by eight Mii Brawlers wearing the Spiny Hats and the yellow Standard Outfits instead of eight Tiny Red Bowsers.
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of Twintelle from ARMS. I change the music to be Cinema Deux music from ARMS instead of New Donk City music from Super Mario Odyssey.
I've said this once, and I'll say it again: Smash Ultimate is the perfect game for TH-camrs, because a game which such a massive amount of content as this game is bound to have plenty of minor nitpick-able details within it for people to talk about in their videos.
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of the Ghosts from the Pac-Man Series. Blinky should be represented by a Red Kirby which makes sense Pinky should be represented by a Default Kirby instead of Blue Jigglypuff Inky should be represented by a Blue Kirby instead of a White Squirtle Clyde should be represented by an Orange Kirby instead of a Yellow Pac-Man
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of Andross from his appearance in Star Fox 64 and Star Fox 64 3D. Ganondorf in his white costume as a fighter doesn't make any sense, because Andross from the two Star Fox 64 games is a monkey man, so we should use a White Donkey Kong as the fighter.
Okay, now I know that there are so many spirit battles in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, because there are eighty six fighters that are used in these spirit battles, but there are four fighters that are not used in a few spirit battles which are Pokémon Trainer from the Pokémon Series, Piranha Plant from the Super Mario Series, Terry Bogard from SNK "Fatal Fury" Series and Sephiroth from the Final Fantasy Series.
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of Toad from the Super Mario Series. Toad in his spirit battle should be represented by the Mii Brawler wearing the blue Toad Outfit and the Toad Hat instead of the Super Mushroom Hat.
For the Shadow spirit battle, I like to think the blue Sonic is supposed to reference how Shadow and Sonic were originally supposed to be equals. Also before they decided to start using the default alts.
Yeah I agree. Kirby fits Mallow in terms of appearance, while Robin fits Mallow in terms of function. I kinda wish the representation is more consistent
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I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of the Hammer Bro from the Super Mario Series. We should add Hammer items in the Hammer Bro spirit battle and also, the Yellow Yoshi will start the battle with the Hammer item.
@@Odyssey_Central that WOULD be a pretty interesting concept… shows how much you can represent these characters without actually using those fighters, like conditions, stages, and BGM
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of Min Min from ARMS. We should replace the Orange Female Corrin with Default Min Min. I even remove three conditions in the Min Min spirit battle and I put one which includes that you should take your strongest team into this no-frills battle. I change the stage in the Min Min spirit battle to be Omega Spring Stadium instead of Omega New Pork City, because Min Min lives in her home stage called Ramen Bowl. I change the music to be the ultimate remix of Ramen Bowl music from ARMS instead of Dragon Driftway music from Mario Kart 8.
One change I’d make is change the Lucina for a Byleth in the Mòrag spirit since Byleth's weapon resembles Mòrag's weapon the closest! Also, play the Xenoblade games, they’re truly incredible games
I think Mallow being different across spirits works. In the solo Mallow battle, it focuses on his gameplay role as a black mage. In the Geno battle, it's more about shotgunning through each character from the game, and white Kirby is a quicker shorthand for "this is Mallow" than Robin. Also yeah, it's weird how they avoided default costumes prior to DLC. Which is probably why Bowser Jr. is absent in a lot of battles where he'd fit, if they didn't want to use a Koopaling. Game & Watch seemed to be this weird exception, but then once Joker showed up they just caved and started using defaults more. Also I'd change the background music for various Sonic spirits. Give Sonic Boom to Metal Sonic and give His World to Silver. And give Twintelle's spirit her stage music form ARMS.
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of Min Min from ARMS. We should replace the Orange Female Corrin with Default Min Min. I even remove three conditions in the Min Min spirit battle and I put one which includes that you should take your strongest team into this no-frills battle. I change the stage in the Min Min spirit battle to be Omega Spring Stadium instead of Omega New Pork City because Min Min lives her home stage called Ramen Bowl and I even change the music to be a ultimate remix of Ramen Bowl music from ARMS instead of Dragon Driftway music from Mario Kart 8.
I think Sonic's appearance in the Shadow fight is a reference to Sonic Adventure as a whole; His blue alt. has blue wristbands, which are a reference to the Crystal Ring from Sonic Adventure.
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of Zora from the Legend of Zelda Series. For Greninja in the Zora spirit battle, he's in his violet costume which doesn't make any sense, because Zora is blue, so he should use his default costume. We should add a Blue Young Link in the Zora spirit battle as a minion to represent Adult Link wearing the Zora Tunic.
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of Geno from Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars. For Mario, Peach and Bowser in the Geno spirit battle, they're all found in an alternate costume despite not looking any different in Super Mario RPG, so they should be in their default costumes. Mallow in the Geno spirit battle is represented by a Grey Kirby which makes sense. Geno is his spirit battle is represented by an Indigo Sheik which doesn't make sense, so he should be represented by a Mii Gunner wearing Geno's costume.
I realised that we should fix the Chun Li from Street Fighter Alpha. Chun Li from Street Fighter Alpha in her spirit battle should be represented by a Blue and Pink Min Min instead of a Blue Zero Suit Samus.
I realised that we should fix the the spirit battle of Cappy from the Super Mario Series. I should change the stage to be Battlefield New Donk City Hall instead of Normal Rainbow Cruise because Cappy appears in the Metro Kingdom in Super Mario Odyssey.
I realised that Incineroar should use his black and grey costume instead of his yellow and orange costume in the spirit battle of the Lion from the Game & Watch Series.
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of Beedle from the Legend of Zelda Series. For Toon Link in the Beedle spirit battle, he's in his slight green and brown costume which doesn't make any sense, so he should use his default costume instead. I change the stage to be Normal Pirate Ship instead of Battlefield Gaur Plain, because Beedle in the Wind Waker is found in his boat in the ocean.
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of Kid from the Mario Golf Series. Kid in his spirit battle should be represented by four Golf Marios or four Default Nesses instead of four Black Marios. I change the stage to be Omega Green Hill Zone instead of Battlefield Golden Plain since it feels more lot like a golf course to me personally.
Mallow's trademark is his ability to use lightning based attacks. Kirby is shaped like him, but Robin has more lightning skills of different strengths, just as Mallow does. Mii Gunner as a stand in for Geno is fine enough since Geno is all about projectiles and never gets in close.
also the great idea of fixing any spirit i just got an idea so the spirit vs diancie i really want something is fixed so the main fighter is peach white color to match the same dress color and 4 tiny blue kirbys to make sure these 4 tiny blue kirbys match the same as the carbinks, also the main goal vs the spirit is beat the main fighter to win
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of the Luma from the Super Mario Series. Instead of four different colored Kirbys in the Luma spirit battle, I thought we should use four different colored Rosalinas and Lumas as the fighters.
I think the reason why they chose Peach’s Castle for Waluigi was because it’s an N64 stage, the system he debuted on. To be clear, I agree with your ideas wholeheartedly, I’m just tossing out a theory.
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of the Nipper Plant from the Super Mario Series. The eight Tiny White Pac-Men are very close to the Nipper Plant, because the Nipper Plant is a Super Mario Enemy Character, so we should use eight Tiny White Piranha Plants as the fighters. One of the conditions showcases that the enemy loves to jump which makes no sense because the enemy which are the eight Tiny White and Grey Piranha Plants will favor down special. The Battlefield form of the Super Mario Maker stage in the Nipper Plant spirit battle is frozen in the Super Mario World form which makes no sense, because the Nipper Plant doesn't appear in Super Mario World, because it only first appears in Super Mario Bros. 3, so unfortunately the Battlefield form of the Super Mario Maker stage should be frozen in the Super Mario Bros. 3 form instead of the Super Mario World form.
the sonic alt in shadows battle is supposed to represent sonic himself. the reason they didnt choose the default option was because of the equipment sonic gets in the sonic adventure games one that looks really similar to his glowing wristband
yeah but why not use the black sonic alt to represent shadow? like yeah i know shadows already there because of his assist trophy but thats the same thing as waluigi
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of the Chaotrix from the Sonic the Hedgehog Series. Espio in the Chaotrix spirit battle should be represented by a Violet Greninja instead of a Purple Sonic as they're both reptiles. For King K. Rool in the Chaotrix spirit battle, he's in his blue costume which doesn't make sense, because Vector the Crocodile/Alligator is green, so he should use his default costume.
its so weird to me that pre-dlc spirits refuse to have the characters using the default alt for spirit battles, it makes some of them really weird as the default skin wouldve been the most fitting alt to go with them
I’m pretty sure it’s because the alts are the “fake” version of the characters since the default ones would be the “real” versions of the characters?
that’s just what I always assumed at least
I think it's that they are DLC. Characters that you have to pay for. Why would they be in the base game?
@@mdnaz9889 they’re talking about how no spirit battles use a characters default costume unless the spirit battle is from a DLC character’s spirit board
@@mdnaz9889 you misunderstood the comment.
I think it’s for the lore accuracy, because spirits canonically use clones of the fighters instead of actual fighters, which is why they use alternate costumes to distinguish between the “real” fighter and “fake” spirit fighters. hope this helps
I agree with Gooey being the black alt. Gooey is a very dark blue and Kirby's blue alt doesn't fit that.
Plus, Gooey's a Dark Matter, so it just lines up.
I was going to comment this exactly!
@@eeveeon4081 Same!
Actually gooey was originally black in his first appearance so it makes sense
@@Acxgal1972 Could also be a obscure reference to Dark Matter aswell.
What about kirby’s maskless meta knight alt?
It’s a very dark blue
One spirit I'd fix is the Pac-Man Ghosts, because they're all represented by a different character and don't look similar at all (including Pac-Man himself representing one for some reason??), but there are 4 Kirby alts that look EXACTLY like each Ghost's original design, so I don't understand why it is the way it is now.
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Isn't there already a "horde of Kirbys" spirit battle tho?
@CoralCopperHead That's not the point.
Sure there could be other similar spirit fights, but I'd rather have the fight be accurate to the character it's trying to be rather than be different.
If it needs to have something, maybe you can have Pac-Man as an ally who you can't let die like some other ones, y'know?
Or an invisible Pac Man that spams smash attacks
I just want to mention that the only reason the Ribbon Girl spirit battle was changed was because she NEVER had a battle before the ARMs DLC. She was only craftable before. But I guess they decided to add Spring Man and Ribbon Girl to the board in order to have the full cast.
Except for Dr coyle and Lola and hedlok and the other one
I'd also have the Kirbys in the Ghast spirit battle spam dash attack, because it turns Kirby into a fireball
Yeah... But on the other hand, Ghasts wouldn't really charge their frail bodies at you.
Would be better if Kirby could start with Mario or Ridley's copy ability or something
@@smashbot500 that would be perfect ngl
@@dark.syndrome true
Personally, I think the Ghast spirit battle is perfect. Nobody on the roster could’ve nailed its role better than Andross.
For Flash Man's spirit, the Timer item is used to represent his weapon, the Time Stopper...even though Shadow the Hedgehog stops opponents in place for a brief moment after slowing them down in Ultimate, which is a much better match for the Time Stopper than the Timer.
Goro Akechi’s spirit battle should really use Joker with… you know, the alt that is obviously referencing Akechi’s colour scheme
That would also reference how Akechi himself is far too jealous of Joker and is a foil to him, so using Joker is far better. If the Akechi battle was hard, that works even better because then it would really show Goro Akechi up. He would think “even possessed Joker fights better than me?” And curse him out in a Saturday Morning Cartoon Villain manner.
I’ve always wondered why didn’t they use white Joker with a beam sword?
Ignoring the Geno Mii Costume since it was added later, Sheik was still a pretty lousy way to represent Geno in his Spirit Battle. I personally think the best possible option would have been Mega Man in his brown alt
Good point; Geno’s most powerful attack is a blaster attack which is a Mega Man thing.
Shadow should just be a Default Joker that spams Neutral B.
For his Neutral Special, he wields a G.U.N. truck!
or bayonetta spamming down and neutral b
Or a Dark Sonic with a Steel Driver
WITH AN INVISIBLE BAYONETTA THAT SPAMS NEUTRAL SPECIAL
Ah, yes. A classic move.
Just so you know, the reason why Mallow is Robin is because Mallow is the mage of the team, able to use various elements for attacks. So you're kinda right that Kirby is closer to the look and Robin is closer to the function
Now imagine if they gave Kirby Copy abilities in Spirit battles. Kirby with Robins lighting shock move would work too well!
@@TheGameCreator13 That would be cool
Which is why it makes sense for they're to be two different versions, of course Mallow's spirit would pick a body closer fit for his fighting style, meanwhile Geno's spirit just copied Kirby's body to represent his good ol' pal Mallow!
One other one I’d personally fix is fawful, i feel like it would be much better to face a giant kirby in his dark alt, who will spawn after you defeat bowser in his blue alt (who will turn giant after taking a lot of damage)
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of Fawful from the Mario and Luigi Series.
We should add a Pink Donkey Kong as a minion to represent Midbus.
I made a spirit battle for every boss in SMO :)
Madame Broodal: Peach in red alt with a large golden PAC Man
Topper: Luigi in normal colors
Harriet: Daisy in blue alt and the only items are explosives
Rango: Yellow mega man that spans neutral special
Spewart: Donkey Kong with white alt and poison floor
Knuckletoc: Kirby in blue alt with an invisible little mac who only uses neutral B with icy floor
Torkdrift: White ROB with the blow vacuum item
Mechawiggler: Purple Yoshi with super scope in reference to the tanks used to fight the mechawiggler
Mollusque-Lanceur: Purple inkling who mostly uses up+B but can use other moves
Cookatiel: Falco with red alt with a lava floor
Ruined Dragon: Ridley in default colors with electric floor
Bowser: Bowser with a lava floor
Mechabroodal: Large ROB with green/brown alt with 3 small red falcos, with only explosives and the ROB is distracted by explosives
In mechabroodal it would be cool if the falcos helped you
Wouldn’t a yellow Mega Man that spams neutral special be a better fit for Rango? Y’know, since his hat has a sawblade in it
@@friendlyyoutubecommenter4527 that makes sense. I’ll do that, thank you.
@@keeboreebo7042 Also I think Ridley fits the Ruined Dragon a lot better, seeing as it’s a realistic thing that’s very out of place.
Also, PAC-MAN should be gold as well, because Chain Chompikins is a golden Chain Chomp
@@ayskaripepperooni2770 they could also add some charachters to represent the broodals, but u would only half to kill the rob
For the Blooper spirit, I would love to change the Inklings running away from you to fighting you. No way they avoid you in the Mario platformers, they are the bane of my existence in water levels.
Edit: Blooper is not in the vid sadly
the bloopers try to swim above your height
you can avoid them using that trick in the super mario series
the inkling running away from you could be better in combination with them jumping a lot
@@supermaximglitchy1 NO it wont because the Bloopers dont run away from you at all because the reason whey jump is the way they swim OR float in mid air.
If DLC fighters adjusted base game spirits, then the White Piranha Plant should be used instead of Pac-Man for the Nipper Plant spirit battle.
I realised that the Nipper Plant Spirit Battle should be against 8 Tiny White and Grey Piranha Plants on the Battlefield Super Mario Maker Stage which will be stuck in its Super Mario Bros. 3 Form instead of its Super Mario World Form
they do, actually. specifically for the cuphead and mugman spirit battles, i believe.
@@AiryCanon That's just the Mii Costume DLC if you have them
@@SonicTheCutehog true that, but if thats the case then nintendo 100% know HOW to do it
Eggman's spirit should've been on Midgar with Scrap Brain playing. That would give the sense that you're fighting on his home turf.
1:49 Wario’s Bike doesn’t get a Spirit, but fucking Wii Fit poses do. Get it together, Nintendo.
It straight up angers me that the toad spirit uses a mii with the toad suit and the super mushroom hat even though there is a literally toad hat.
For the ‘kid’ spirit, you could also have peaches/daisies spamming forward smash with the golf club!
Actually, the ghast being metallic/artificial has some lore significance. In an official book that officially confirmed a bunch of theories to be true (such as the creeper having a TNT inside of it and being plant like) also directly shows us that a ghast is made of redstone components. This is straight up an official source of lore too btw.
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the reason the spirits you listed are not in their default costumes are because they appear in World of Light, I belive that spirits that only appear on the spirit board can use the charecters default. it makes sense lore-wise why charecters can't appear with their default costumes in WOL
shadow isnt in world of light i think, and yet he's represented by a light blue sonic (if it was meant to represent the actual sonic then why wouldnt they have changed the alt to default sonic?)
@@dark.syndrome i'm pretty sure sonic is supposed to reperesent sonic in Sonic Adventure 2, it looks like the light blue sonic has some of the ability items that sonic had in sa2
There are still Game & Watch Spirits in World of Light, though, that use his default costume.
Not ALL OF THEM, because your forgetting about Mr Game & Watch WHOOOM you can face in their DEFALUT costumes in all of the Game&Watch spirit battles.
I think it would be funny if the Happy Mask Salesman was just Mario in his purple alt (since he has a Mario mask on his bag)
I think the reason Waluigi is fought on Peach's Castle is because of the bumper, which is one of the hazards in Waluigi's Pinball course.
Gooey is dark blue so I think dark Kirby actually fits better than light blue Kirby. It might even be a nod to Gooey's relation to Dark Matter.
Glad that the icon himself, Strollin Stu, is slowly becoming more and more important in the Odyssey Central lore
I would change the Pauline spirit battle to be in omega 75m instead of normal 75m because that stage sucks and makes the battle terrible
There are over 1000 spirit battles in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate which means that some of them are intently going certain errors and mistakes. Toady, I'm going to cover a few of the spirit battles that I would change in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate and how I would fix them, whether it be by changing the character, their alternate costume, conditions, rules, stages, the items and even adding in DLC.
Hey man, I want to thank you for putting the best video ever in all your descriptions 😭 It really means a lot haha. I really enjoy your content too
I will continue to put it there for as long as TH-cam has descriptions, can never thank you enough for making that masterpiece
@@Odyssey_Central 11 year old me had a mind of his own
The thing that always bothered me was the fact that Kyogre and Groudon can rank up to their primal form but mega Rayquaza was a no go
Yea, and Rayquaza is a Primary Ace Spirit, the chance for Mega Rayquaza was right there!
Or to be honest they probably didn’t include it to not remind us of the Days of Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire Online Battles. And in case your wondering Mega Rayquaza was banned even from Ubers to a Tier of its own.
@@ethantreadway9478 but they included freaking mega Mewtwo and Arceus talk about a missed opportunity
I like mask seller battle because it's like he corrupted Link and order it to battle, if deku link was playable it will make sense for me too.
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I would actually change the Iron Golem to a white Donkey Kong, to better represent the fact that Iron Golems are physical brutes
And he starts the battle under the effects of a Metal Box, because IRON golem
But ROB looks similar to the iron golem (in terms of appearance)
@@paulinebunag4875 No he freaking doesn't????
@@cam7990Also iron golems are robots
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of Deku Link from the Legend of Zelda Series.
The Green Diddy Kong is very close to Deku Link, because Deku Link is a Zelda Character, so it's given a Default Young Link or Default Toon Link as the fighter. One of the conditions in the Deku Link spirit battle showcases that the enemy favors neutral specials which makes no sense, because it means that the enemy which is Default Young Link or Default Toon Link will start the battle with a Deku Nut.
One that I feel needs a change is the Smoky Progg cause outside the Stage it makes no sense at all
Mario as a fighter makes no sense given it's a frog like creature so give it a K Rool or Ivysaur for the fighter. Making it occasionally be metal I mean its immune to poison but it literally emits poison gas from its body as it walks so change it to a Poison floor or fog (to represent the smoke). Also its boost as a spirit to give the player Urina (idk how to spell it) makes no sense when again Poison based stuff is a mechanic in the game. And if the issue is that it's the first spirit in the game... then put a Mario spirit first and just put the Smoky Progg a bit later
it's not even as if that's an iconic character, there is a good percentage of people who have even played pikmin 1 that never really met this dude
@@dazcarrr While that's true it's not iconic it still feels dumb that lots of spirits (even ones that are even lesser known) have more accurate fights than it
@@pokefanalex9504 i was saying that as a point towards a different first fight, because smoky progg is in no way a "first enemy" character, and is also practically unheard of outside a relatively small group of people
i phrased it a little weirdly
@@dazcarrr ohh I see my bad. I completely agree with that!
Wouldn't one of the Belmonts be better for the Hammer Bros spirit because of the Axe? I mean it travels in the same arc as it, it goes through blocks, and is closer to a hammer than Yoshis egg.
I guess Yoshi is Mario-related so they went with a character in Mario versus a character not in Mario.
@@iantaakalla8180 Fair enough. Yoshi looks more like a Hammer Bro than the Belmonts (and is as equally annoying). However I always thought the process of spirits went down a ladder of importance of sorts. I.E they base the battle on the moveset similarity before basing it of looks
You forgot to mention Rex got a mii fighter costume that could be used in his spirit battle
9:04 Petey Piranha has a normal spirit but you need to enhance nipper plant.
The Spirit Battle for The Odyssey is actually programmed wrong. The conditions list says it uses the "enemy is hard to launch" condition, but in the actual battle, the "easy to launch" effect is applied instead. This can be easily seen by the fact that the easy to launch effect makes the launch physics floatier, while the hard to launch effect makes the physics stiffer. It also increases the knockback the opponent (Jigglypuff) takes from set knockback moves like the first hit of Chrom's up B, and in Ultimate, set knockback moves ignore all knockback modifiers in the game EXCEPT the easy to launch effect in Spirit Battles.
I think this actually breaks the Spirit Battle, as the other conditions are that Jigglypuff is giant and she shields often. If the hard to launch effect were applied properly, Jigglypuff would be a lot more resistant to knockback, so the easiest way to KO her within the time limit would likely be to break her shield, which as we all know KO's Jigglypuff instantly. Perhaps this represents the Odyssey getting damaged and crashing...idk but this seems to be how you were INTENDED to beat the Spirit Battle, but because they applied the wrong effect, Jigglypuff is trivially easy to KO normally.
11:44 there is a theory that the ghast is a robot, but i think they just did that for the color
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of the Smoky Progg from the Pikmin Series.
Mario in his black costume as a fighter makes no sense, because the Smoky Progg is a frog like creature, so we should use a Green Greninja as the fighter. Both the condition and rule showcase that the enemy will occasionally turn metal which makes no sense, because it means that the floor is poison or the stage is covered in fog. We should add another condition in the Smoky Progg spirit battle which includes some unira items.
Fun fact in the instruction manual for dreamland two or three I forgot with one you do actually see gooey as a black blob instead of a blue one
This has to be the earliest I've been to one of your video's! Can't wait to watch it!! 🌟
Request: Making a Spirit battle for every boss from Cuphead (not including the DLC bosses when they come out).
*if they come out
I think the reason that the Shadow spirit is represented by Sonic alt 3, is because Shadow did originate in Sonic Adventure 2, and since Sonic didn’t have his Soap Shoes in the game, but the Crystal rings on Sonic r actually a reference to what he wears in the first Adventure game, so I guess it kinda makes sense, but then again it’s weird they didn’t use the black alt
“Strollin’ Bozo” really got me and I don’t know why.
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of Mallow from Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars.
Mallow in his spirit battle should be represented by three Grey Kirbys instead of three White and Red Male Robins just like in Geno's spirit battle. I remove two conditions in Mallow's spirit battle and I put one which showcases that you should take your strongest team into this no-frills battle.
9:01 Also, if 9:02 I find it really funny how Petey Piranha from his appearance in the Super Mario Strikers Series got a spirit battle but the main version of him doesn't have a spirit battle.
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of Young Zelda from the Legend of Zelda Series.
For Zelda in her tiny form in the Young Zelda spirit battle, she's in her purple costume which is a bit close to Young Zelda, because Young Zelda from Ocarina of Time has blonde hair, so Zelda should use her violet costume instead of her purple costume. For Young Link in the Young Zelda spirit battle, he's in his red costume which doesn't make sense as only Adult Link is able to wear the goron tunic, so he should use his default costume.
Geno is from space so the stage choice indeed makes sense
I guest that it makes sense that we shouldn't fix the spirit battle of Malon from the Legend of Zelda Series, because her spirit battle is against Zelda in her white costume instead of her purple costume on the Smashville stage with Cucco items and milk bottles.
I realised that we have to fix the spirit battle of the Odyssey from the Super Mario Series.
One of the conditions showcases that the enemy is hard to launch which makes no sense, because it means that the enemy is easy to launch which is a reference in Super Mario Odyssey, because the Odyssey is easy to launch and I even change the stage to be Battlefield New Donk City Hall instead of Normal Rainbow Cruise in the Odyssey spirit battle, because the Odyssey lives in Metro Kingdom in Super Mario Odyssey.
I can understand your issue with the defaults being better, but I think the reason Sakurai went with changing palettes a lot was to link with World of Light's lore on spirits and the clones. I personally didn't mind that decisions since I do like details that make things more fleshed and planned out, but I can see where the issue lies. Side note, I love that game mode, despite what the fanbase says.
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of Professor Chops from the Donkey Kong Series.
We should add a Pink Donkey Kong as the main fighter to represent Professor Chops himself.
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of the Chain Chomp from the Super Mario Series.
The Metal Black Pac-Man is very close to the Chain Chomp because we should use a Mii Brawler wearing the Chain Chomp Hat and the Black Standard Outfit who will not become metal as the fighter. One of the conditions showcases that the enemy favors side specials which makes no sense, because it means that the enemy which is the Mii Brawler wearing the Chomp Hat and Black Standard Outfit will favor neutral which is Flashing Mach Punch.
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of Peachette from the Super Mario Series.
Yellow Toad in Peachette's spirit battle should be represented by the Mii Brawler wearing the yellow Toad Outfit and the Toad Hat instead of the Super Mushroom Hat.
Fun fact: in rex’s old Spirit battle the floor was fire do you need a fire resistant spirit to beat the spirit battle
Correct me if I’m wrong
Odyssey is my favorite Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Spirit youtuber
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of Alucard from the Castlevania Series.
The Indigo Simon Belmont is very close to Alucard, because we should use a Default Sephiroth as the fighter.
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of Rex from the Xenoblade Chronicles Series.
The Blue Shulk is very close to Rex because it's given a Mii Brawler wearing Rex's costume as the fighter. I change the Red Lucina to be Default Pyra in the Rex spirit battle. The Rex spirit battle has a stage change after the DLC to be Omega Cloud Sea of Alrest instead of Omega Kongo Falls which makes sense.
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of Lakitu and Spiny from the Super Mario Series.
Spiny should be represented by eight Mii Brawlers wearing the Spiny Hats and the yellow Standard Outfits instead of eight Tiny Red Bowsers.
You are so close to 100k I'm excited for the moon ranking video keep up the good work
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of Twintelle from ARMS.
I change the music to be Cinema Deux music from ARMS instead of New Donk City music from Super Mario Odyssey.
I've said this once, and I'll say it again: Smash Ultimate is the perfect game for TH-camrs, because a game which such a massive amount of content as this game is bound to have plenty of minor nitpick-able details within it for people to talk about in their videos.
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of the Ghosts from the Pac-Man Series.
Blinky should be represented by a Red Kirby which makes sense
Pinky should be represented by a Default Kirby instead of Blue Jigglypuff
Inky should be represented by a Blue Kirby instead of a White Squirtle
Clyde should be represented by an Orange Kirby instead of a Yellow Pac-Man
We need to talk about Rouge:
She is represented by fox for some reason. But Bayonetta fits her a thousand times more. For obvious reasons
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of Andross from his appearance in Star Fox 64 and Star Fox 64 3D.
Ganondorf in his white costume as a fighter doesn't make any sense, because Andross from the two Star Fox 64 games is a monkey man, so we should use a White Donkey Kong as the fighter.
Okay, now I know that there are so many spirit battles in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, because there are eighty six fighters that are used in these spirit battles, but there are four fighters that are not used in a few spirit battles which are Pokémon Trainer from the Pokémon Series, Piranha Plant from the Super Mario Series, Terry Bogard from SNK "Fatal Fury" Series and Sephiroth from the Final Fantasy Series.
It's about time for some of these
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of Toad from the Super Mario Series.
Toad in his spirit battle should be represented by the Mii Brawler wearing the blue Toad Outfit and the Toad Hat instead of the Super Mushroom Hat.
For the Shadow spirit battle, I like to think the blue Sonic is supposed to reference how Shadow and Sonic were originally supposed to be equals.
Also before they decided to start using the default alts.
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Yeah I agree. Kirby fits Mallow in terms of appearance, while Robin fits Mallow in terms of function.
I kinda wish the representation is more consistent
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I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of the Hammer Bro from the Super Mario Series.
We should add Hammer items in the Hammer Bro spirit battle and also, the Yellow Yoshi will start the battle with the Hammer item.
Fun Idea: Giving a spirit battle to every playable character in Smash Ultimate
Hmmmmm maybe I could do that but I CANT use the character themselves, that could be interesting 🤔
@@Odyssey_Central Yeah the one rule could be not using the characters themselves or their echo fighters
@@Odyssey_Central that WOULD be a pretty interesting concept… shows how much you can represent these characters without actually using those fighters, like conditions, stages, and BGM
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of Min Min from ARMS.
We should replace the Orange Female Corrin with Default Min Min. I even remove three conditions in the Min Min spirit battle and I put one which includes that you should take your strongest team into this no-frills battle. I change the stage in the Min Min spirit battle to be Omega Spring Stadium instead of Omega New Pork City, because Min Min lives in her home stage called Ramen Bowl. I change the music to be the ultimate remix of Ramen Bowl music from ARMS instead of Dragon Driftway music from Mario Kart 8.
Nintendo didn't create spirit battles for all summon and enhanceable spirits in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, but we'll try.
One change I’d make is change the Lucina for a Byleth in the Mòrag spirit since Byleth's weapon resembles Mòrag's weapon the closest!
Also, play the Xenoblade games, they’re truly incredible games
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I think Mallow being different across spirits works. In the solo Mallow battle, it focuses on his gameplay role as a black mage. In the Geno battle, it's more about shotgunning through each character from the game, and white Kirby is a quicker shorthand for "this is Mallow" than Robin.
Also yeah, it's weird how they avoided default costumes prior to DLC. Which is probably why Bowser Jr. is absent in a lot of battles where he'd fit, if they didn't want to use a Koopaling. Game & Watch seemed to be this weird exception, but then once Joker showed up they just caved and started using defaults more.
Also I'd change the background music for various Sonic spirits. Give Sonic Boom to Metal Sonic and give His World to Silver. And give Twintelle's spirit her stage music form ARMS.
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Can you all figure out how I would change the Min Min Spirit?"
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of Min Min from ARMS.
We should replace the Orange Female Corrin with Default Min Min. I even remove three conditions in the Min Min spirit battle and I put one which includes that you should take your strongest team into this no-frills battle. I change the stage in the Min Min spirit battle to be Omega Spring Stadium instead of Omega New Pork City because Min Min lives her home stage called Ramen Bowl and I even change the music to be a ultimate remix of Ramen Bowl music from ARMS instead of Dragon Driftway music from Mario Kart 8.
I think Sonic's appearance in the Shadow fight is a reference to Sonic Adventure as a whole; His blue alt. has blue wristbands, which are a reference to the Crystal Ring from Sonic Adventure.
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of Zora from the Legend of Zelda Series.
For Greninja in the Zora spirit battle, he's in his violet costume which doesn't make any sense, because Zora is blue, so he should use his default costume. We should add a Blue Young Link in the Zora spirit battle as a minion to represent Adult Link wearing the Zora Tunic.
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of Geno from Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars.
For Mario, Peach and Bowser in the Geno spirit battle, they're all found in an alternate costume despite not looking any different in Super Mario RPG, so they should be in their default costumes. Mallow in the Geno spirit battle is represented by a Grey Kirby which makes sense. Geno is his spirit battle is represented by an Indigo Sheik which doesn't make sense, so he should be represented by a Mii Gunner wearing Geno's costume.
I realised that we should fix the Chun Li from Street Fighter Alpha.
Chun Li from Street Fighter Alpha in her spirit battle should be represented by a Blue and Pink Min Min instead of a Blue Zero Suit Samus.
I realised that we should fix the the spirit battle of Cappy from the Super Mario Series.
I should change the stage to be Battlefield New Donk City Hall instead of Normal Rainbow Cruise because Cappy appears in the Metro Kingdom in Super Mario Odyssey.
I realised that Incineroar should use his black and grey costume instead of his yellow and orange costume in the spirit battle of the Lion from the Game & Watch Series.
The shadow spirit is the one that I was confused because they should have use the black alt for sonic I glad you fix that
I realised that Shulk should use his black costume instead of his white costume in the Dunban spirit battle.
I realised that Zelda in her tiny form should use her violet costume instead of her purple costume in the Young Zelda spirit battle.
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of Beedle from the Legend of Zelda Series.
For Toon Link in the Beedle spirit battle, he's in his slight green and brown costume which doesn't make any sense, so he should use his default costume instead. I change the stage to be Normal Pirate Ship instead of Battlefield Gaur Plain, because Beedle in the Wind Waker is found in his boat in the ocean.
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of Kid from the Mario Golf Series.
Kid in his spirit battle should be represented by four Golf Marios or four Default Nesses instead of four Black Marios. I change the stage to be Omega Green Hill Zone instead of Battlefield Golden Plain since it feels more lot like a golf course to me personally.
Mallow's trademark is his ability to use lightning based attacks. Kirby is shaped like him, but Robin has more lightning skills of different strengths, just as Mallow does.
Mii Gunner as a stand in for Geno is fine enough since Geno is all about projectiles and never gets in close.
also the great idea of fixing any spirit i just got an idea
so the spirit vs diancie i really want something is fixed so the main fighter is peach white color to match the same dress color and 4 tiny blue kirbys to make sure these 4 tiny blue kirbys match the same as the carbinks, also the main goal vs the spirit is beat the main fighter to win
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of the Luma from the Super Mario Series.
Instead of four different colored Kirbys in the Luma spirit battle, I thought we should use four different colored Rosalinas and Lumas as the fighters.
It makes sense that the Nipper Plant doesn't appear in any of the Super Mario Maker games.
I think the reason why they chose Peach’s Castle for Waluigi was because it’s an N64 stage, the system he debuted on.
To be clear, I agree with your ideas wholeheartedly, I’m just tossing out a theory.
Another obvious change to make is to make the Aegislash spirit represented by Pyra/Mythra. They're literally the Aegis.
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of the Nipper Plant from the Super Mario Series.
The eight Tiny White Pac-Men are very close to the Nipper Plant, because the Nipper Plant is a Super Mario Enemy Character, so we should use eight Tiny White Piranha Plants as the fighters. One of the conditions showcases that the enemy loves to jump which makes no sense because the enemy which are the eight Tiny White and Grey Piranha Plants will favor down special. The Battlefield form of the Super Mario Maker stage in the Nipper Plant spirit battle is frozen in the Super Mario World form which makes no sense, because the Nipper Plant doesn't appear in Super Mario World, because it only first appears in Super Mario Bros. 3, so unfortunately the Battlefield form of the Super Mario Maker stage should be frozen in the Super Mario Bros. 3 form instead of the Super Mario World form.
the sonic alt in shadows battle is supposed to represent sonic himself. the reason they didnt choose the default option was because of the equipment sonic gets in the sonic adventure games one that looks really similar to his glowing wristband
yeah but why not use the black sonic alt to represent shadow? like yeah i know shadows already there because of his assist trophy but thats the same thing as waluigi
@@dark.syndrome maybe to reference the duology theming in SA2
I realised that we should fix the spirit battle of the Chaotrix from the Sonic the Hedgehog Series.
Espio in the Chaotrix spirit battle should be represented by a Violet Greninja instead of a Purple Sonic as they're both reptiles. For King K. Rool in the Chaotrix spirit battle, he's in his blue costume which doesn't make sense, because Vector the Crocodile/Alligator is green, so he should use his default costume.
I realised that Kirby should use his blue costume instead of his black/purple costume in the Gooey spirit battle, because Gooey is blue.