exactly, I don't want a blowout max damage due to unfair stats, I want similar stats and similar comparison, this youtuber went the extra mile and I applaud the effort... Also, this makes me choose which set is better for my playstyle.
Yeah and it serves the true purpose of thr video: to see the damage DIFFERENCE. If we want to see max dmg potential using this artif we wouldve looked for a showcase, not artifact comparison. So for artifact comparison this is hpw it should be, perfectly fair
Essentially just use whatever good artifacts you have for xiao because the dmg difference is minimal. Even with 2 glad and 2 shime, it is very good on him. I guess this new artifact set is for the players who really want to maximize his dmg, but farming for a good 4 piece set is a pain tho….
Yeah, you're absolutely right. The only thing I can see that the new set could do is to reduce your Energy problems by investing on ER since you already get excess attack. Not really worth it to farm over 2pc VV/SR if you don't wanna get railed and creampied by artifact rng
Well, I personally find almost 20k more damage (specially taking in consideration that these builds from this showcase have really low Crit Dmg, with higher crit the difference in damage would be even more significant) fairly good! But yes, for an increase of around 10% extra damage on a well built Xiao, this is definitely not worth it for people who's still in need of buildin' some other characters. I'm included on those cases that "want to maximaze his damage", sure, but that's mostly 'cause I have no other character I wanna build atm and I also already have over 10 million Mora saved (and that's after fully upgradin' an Ayato, I was with almost 18kk before), I don't need to farm more resources. So to veteran players, I don't see why not farm it, since is a increase of damage for a character that doesn't have dedicated supports yet. Mine's already at some respectable 2419 Atk, 85.1/188.4 Crit Rate and Dmg, while also havin' 135.6% ER with his 2-piece Viridescent + 2-piece Shimenawa Set, so I don't really need the upgrade _but, since Xiao is my favorite character, I have nothin' else to spend my Resin on and farming this new set will be at least easier to farm than Gladiator. I find it a reasonable investment. I can even transfer my 2-piece sets that were his to other characters, would actually be really helpful on buildin' my future Yoimiya, for example, specially 'cause the 2 Shimenawa pieces I have are a Sands and a Circlet... but mostly, now I'll have motivation to even focus more on my Xiao's crit rate and crit damage rolls, instead of relying a lot on Atk% rolls as it had to be with my current set
my Xiao has 74% crit rate, 232% crit damage, were grinding artifacts for 6 months straight ever since I got him in 1.3 and until now for a bit. I don't think it's worthed to change artifacts for 2k damage difference. thank you for the video showcase
My Xiao is 83/197 with 50k x 3 E.skill and 45k-65k burst + Bennet and dragon. I wanna change my artefct but after i saw your comment i think i wont change my artefact 😂
@@aditsyah8773 i have almost the same situation, almost rank 57, but never had anemo supports for xiao, only got jean and sucrose recently and also want to take kadzuha in future and the problem is they all want anemo set and farming new set for xiao may be a decision to give his pieces to them. Also in video crit dmg is almost equal, but in scale having 180-200+ crit dmg can give you a possibility to save bennet for another crew because the new set gives a lot of damage in perspective. The difference per plunge might be not 20-22k, but 50-70k and it is really a lot🤷🏼♀️
Same here! Maining Xiao since 1.3, but instead, it took me 10ish months to have 80/230, I'm not gonna suffer again when 2vv/2glad xiao is already strong enough
yea exactly but honestly the amount of grinding required to get lucky enough for decent pieces like these, its not worth it unless your also grinding for Ayato and to be honest i have Ayato and i dont even want the new set because of the RNG mechanic. basically imo its not worth it but quite a few Genshin TH-camrs share my sentiment
It honestly isn't, mathematically speaking yeah. If you however, are like me who doesn't rly have anyone to build and wants to max ur Xiao to a higher level, sure go farm it, just know that it's gon take long and might not be worth it time if ur Xiao already has cracked substats.
@@yubiyubiw yeah the thing is, those who already have Xiao probably have some cracked gladiator, shimenawa, or viridescent set that probably can go up to 60/200 cv. 20% damage to Xiao's plunge which minimum can deal 20k is just 2k additional damage, which is not worth the hard grind.
exactly 9,45... in other hand raiden c3 increase her dmg in 15% i think that is just way harder to get a 4p set while u can always farma glad on bosses and 2p on the domain
@@yubiyubiw yes exactly, i just meant like its not optimal when trying to make the most of your resin. ive been there too with certain characters, having no one else at the time to work on
I’ll be honest, I thought that the new set with Xiao a big damage difference. Looking at it now, it didn’t change much so. . . I’m just going to stick with glad and virdescent set for him and farm a new four piece virdescent set for my Kazuha.
Keep in mind that it's a Deathmatch (a weapon with low base attack) and low crit damage. If you have a 5 star weapon on Xiao, I would imagine the difference can become much more meaningful. And still, even in this comparison, the damage difference in one burst is one entire plunge attack. I do think it's a bit meaningful in the long run
You also have to remember the 4 piece only works when you lose health. So the less health you have the stronger it becomes. So it's not actually a good comparison, only at full health.
@@sev559 Not really but you’re allowed to think it is. Again. The more health lost during the burst the stronger the attack is. That’s for normal, charged, burst, and skill.
if you use a high base attack weapon such as calamity and primordial you can should go for 4pc vermilion, if you just use weapon with normal base attack don't go with 4pc vermilion. and also consider the substats that you have.
i have calamity on him (741 base atk is juicy af) and unfortunately not in the mood to grind for that 4pc set lol but i should consider that in the future
Unfortunately, Mihoyo is very negligent with Xiao, they always strives for nothing to buff him, and the set made for him has almost no difference from an improvised set. Meanwhile, Itto received a very strong set, and even received support designed to maximize Geo.
Not really, itto set vs 2 piece and 2 piece is only as much better as xiao's one, this set makes a huge difference in xiao's best team double geo double anemo, since he don't get much attack there and will be like 14% more dmg, 14% more dmg is huge, upgrading your talent levels from 8 to 10 is also pretty much this amount. All the other character's 4 piece vs 2 pieces aren't that big of a difference too, expect something like blizzard. Xiao true, doesn't have a good support. But that's the only thing he lacks, no need to lie about other things
you say that as if itto is the only one to benefit from the release of husk LMFAO. the set is for albedo, yunjin, and noelle as well. meanwhile xiao’s is Just for him. if anything you should be flattered they gave him an entire set that literally only HE can use.
Wow.. you made nice effort for almost same stat. Btw note one thing that if you use jade spear which has high base atk of 674 you'll benefit more from atk buffs from new set.
xiao’s aoe is a pretty important thing to consider, especially in spiral abyss, when the enemies are all bunched together, a few thousand difference in damage can really affect your abyss runs. since xiao isnt really st dps, thought i’d point that out.
it surprises me a lot how the 48% extra atk% isn't a huge change from 15% anemo dmg bonus, however i loved to see how xiao's damage is still super good even with "only" 110% crit dmg, definitely a insane main dps, and the only reason why he was "powercrept" is because these annoying enemies with elemental shields on abyss that requires specific elements to break their shields faster, aside of that xiao still remains one of the best dps characters in the game
Also , i wanted to point it out that low plunge and high plunge makes a wee bit of difference too, its a small amount but it does make a difference , nonetheless this comparison was greatt and good job :D
Diminishing returns if you're just trying to farm for the same exact stats of your good 2 pc sets. The biggest advantage to take away from farming for 4 pc Vermillion is you can go for an ER time piece and still retain all the atk% bonus because of the set effect, so it's a good opportunity to add quality of life changes to your rotations and team set ups so you're not fixated on always having slots taken up by anemo batteries when instead you can just add another dmg dealing support of any element.
If you have 2pc glad/shim and 2pc viridiscent with good substats you don't have to farm for the new set, it's not worth resin except you also farms for the echoes set
@@kittenmimi5326 one more thing, every mono element have their own elemental dmg booster support like Sara (electro) and Gorou (geo). Shenhe and Bennett not counted because they're cryo and pyro, Kazuha also can't boost anemo dmg. Anemo only have Jean, Venti, and anemo mc (Jean and Venti need some constellation) to apply anemo shred. Hoyo should make the anemo version of Shenhe who can buff plunge dmg and skill dmg
i have both ayato and xiao and even though i have pretty decent artifact sets for both of them already before this doamin, I am still farming the new sets cuz 1)they look pretty 2)I like to switch up artifact sets every now and then 3)both their 2p stat are attack, so id say its a pretty safe domain to farm other than the emble/shimenawa domain
True, I have Xiao and Ayato too and it's a win/win in that domain because I could get Xiao artifacts or Ayato artifacts.. Unlike when I'm going in the Zhou domain, I could get a crimson witch, but I always get good lavawalkers which makes me angry >:(
Will you be doing a comparison for the new artif on yoimiya? And also thanks for making this kind of videos, farming for all of them must have been a pain
@@zeberiko In all honesty, it’s better to run Bolide on her if you have a shielder like Zhongli or Diona/Thoma. It has around the same NA bonus with none of the energy issues (also even though it’s bad her burst does add a lot for her damage and helps support other teammates so it shouldn’t be neglected)
@@browserjunior4707 Diona's shield can be broken unlike Thoma's refreshing, so with her bolide is unstable. NA bonus difference is small, but shime gives +18% atk which affect both NA and burst (~ +7% dmg). Burst animation takes LARGE amount of time, you know... Anyway, Bolide is still the second best option for Yoi.
Good job bro,, thanks,, Honestly, xiao artifact is too late for him, i bet every xiao main has already got proper artifact for him, even from rerun banner
True i spend alot of time grind my ass of to find a good artifact for him, now the new set is released i just dont wanna spend so much time again just for 2k difference and would just rather build other team that helps xiao instead.
Yup. My Xiao is my most invested character with a great crit ratio. So there's no way ill be able to grind for this set. Though it will be a good set for future Xiao mains i think.
Nice! Now this is how a comparison should look like. Unlike many comparison videos out there, your build stats between 2 sets is really close which makes it fair and valid.
Something to think about is that the base atk of the polearm is fairly low, so the atk boos is limited If you manage to get the jade spear the base atk goes through the roof And the atk boost makes an even bigger difference with the sets So if you have a 5 stats polearm The new set makes quite the difference.
*clap* you got a sub, nice show, nice presentation, thank you for pausing each and explanation without filler. And literally loved the stat showed that you went to try to balance.
new artifacts for existing character will always be ~10% of damage increase, those who already have good artifacts with good substats can just ignore the new sets cause it's not worth the time and resin esp for those artifacts that require 4 sets effect
@@_Yakshini_ bruh read first and try to understand what i said. If you take bennie's atk buff and with this set's atk buff together you get so less value compare to without benny and only with this artifact's buff. Too much external buffs diminish the buff of this set. Anyways in the end it's upto you how optimally you play ur character and with Benny or without benny is a flaw or not! I m just giving my opinion after i test myself. Don't just say anything without knowing what is the context behind the comments.
ok I admit I'm kinda dumb.. I was like new artifacts comparison will come after like 1 week because they need to farm it worth like cr/cd 80/200 But I guess the way u did it it quite alright
I knew it . For all of you , Fellow Xiao's Mains . It's not recommended to farm this new artifacts since the damage increase from 2pc glad + 2pc shime / 2pc viri + 2pc glad/shime is only around 10% . And when we add those attack buffer like Bennett Burst. noblesse , tenacity , ttds and etc. The damage difference wil only be around 5% due to how Dimishing Return works in this game . A 5% damage increase is not really a good investment unless you : 1) don't have good shime/glad/viri sets already 2) just looking to maximize his damage
Someone said it in an earlier comment, but if you have high base atk weapons (primordial, queller, etc.) you will see more gains from new arti set. Just food for thought.
@@sichen3747 So , Regarding a very misunderstood topic of Jenshin , which is Dimishing return , I will try my best to summarise the calculation on Atk For instance , let's imagine you have : Base Atk = 1000 Atk% = 0 Flat Atk = 500 Using the formula = 1000 + (1000 * 0) + 500 = 1500 Now let's add 50% Atk into your character Using the formula = 1000 + (1000*50%) + 500 = 2000 Which means you will have 33.33% increase But This time let's have : Base Atk = 1000 Atk% = 100% Flat Atk = 500 Using the formula = 1000 + (1000 * 100%) + 500 = 2500 Now let's add 50% Atk like what we did to the previous one Using the formula = 1000 + (1000*150%) + 500 = 3000 Which means you will have 20% increase It seems like the increase of numbers are the same , right ? But actually the value of it are decreasing the more you stack it and thus creating a Dimishing return .
Me who has Xiao and has finally completed a decent Gladiator + Viridiscent set and now sees the new artifact is better. Me: Oh boy!! That's another 8 mos. of grinding for me.
bro on regular basis you need 3 months for a character farming (aka using resins only for farming that domain).. Also the damage increase is minimal so yeah so you can go for it or stay with the same set unless you farm that domain for some1 like ayato yoimiya etc
I really cant move on to your content.... this is very different to others.. so very nice and awesome comparison.. no BS.. just straight info.. and very not confusing.. and very fair comparison. I am so happy to find this channel..
Honestly, after a whole year building the perfect Xiao (Jade Spear came home ❤️), I don't think I wanna build him all over again, I love him as he is now ❤️
Just to remind you that this is using deathmatch which has low base atk. Idk if it'd be a larger difference with PJWS or not. Edit: Ok I checked the difference is bigger, yes. But, it's still small (±5k)
@@MAziKa35 U just need a high base atk weapon on him to gain the maximum value out of this artifact set. I use primodial so I would gain even more than u do. Then there r those with calamity qweller who would gain even more than me
The difference isnt much bcuz u r using a low base atk weapon on him If u use a higher base atk weapon the diff will be a bit more as xiao will benefit morr from the new set buff
Yeah I agree with this a lot. I'm using skyward spine on him which has high base atk. And I've seen people comparing the sets with a 5 star weapon and the dmg difference is actually a lot bigger. Considering I also use a 5 star weapon, this domain is worth it for me.
very quick and detailed way to show the Artifact sets. it really all does depend on which artifacts set have better crits, as the dmg isnt that much of a difference but still is, showing that you can keep old set and save resin.
ALRIGHT THIS IS WHAT I WANT WHEN I WANT COMPARISONS WHEN IT COMES TO ARTIFACTS AND WEAPONS!!! I LOVE THIS! YOU GOT A NEW SUB. Sorry I was drunk and I love to use Caps when I am drunk so thank you for this vid. ❤️
I love your videos, it helps me a lot to know if I should farm something or to know if it´s not worth it, I´m someone who even uses Excel to see the artifact sets and stuff, so your information gives me peace.
SO this is one of the best comparisons I have ever seen in showing a 1:1 vacuum showcase BUT a tip is to also explain WHY one artifact would be better than the other in non-vacuum environments too. The reason the new artifact set is so good for Xiao is you do not need benny anymore, and if you have a good base ATK polearm (jade) you can ignore ALL atk substat rolls on artifacts and still be out on top in atk, allowing you more room for crit values. The new artifact set, unfortunately, doesnt give any DMG boosts which anemo does not have a large pool available to them so the 2 pc and 2 pc help alleviate the lack of atk stat with some dmg increase but 15% just is not going to outweigh the 48% atk you get from the new set. Food for thought, LOVE the freeze frame numbers too, just easy to follow.
This is a great comparison with pretty equal stats. I think a lot of people are thinking of the 2k difference wrong. this video was made on very basic stats to show you the difference. If you compare it with great artifacts you will see a noticeable difference. It looks like its a minimum of 10% dmg increase. I'm thinking you will see a minimum of 10% to 20% increase if you get good rolls on artifacts. Great job on showing the difference.
Best comparison ever.. its not like the other video that are very confusing.. omg you are the best.. if I can only donate money.. i will.. more video like this
I joined in 2.1 and got Xiao during the Lantern Rite Festival in January. I currently have him at C2. I took a break for 2 1/2 months since I moved and focused more on school. I'm probably gonna farm for this set since I don't have a good Viridescent & Gladiator/Shimenawa set for Xiao unlike other who farmed for months.
Great video! I will continue farming shime because I am also building Raiden, so both sets are useful. Plus, my Xiao is already fully built with 2 VV 2 shime (78.9% CR, 210.9% CD), so it would take A LOT of resin to get better artifacts. If I get to a point where most of my characters are fully built, then I might go back and farm this domain.
I guess it's settled then, I ain't farming a whole 4 pc set and mald because of substat rolls just for a 10% dmg increase lmao. Thanks for this comparison, really appreciate it.
thank you so much, I've been wondering whether to continue trying my hands on vermillion or just keep farming the viridescent that is actually descent 😂
Glad to know my Xiao is on par with other people's Xiaos, i'm hoping i could improve my own even further by trying to increase his crit damage even higher
I personally wanted to upgrade my Xiao, but the viridescent domain is pain. Now that I got Ayato I can farm for him and also for Xiao so I think it is good to spend resin on the Vermilion domain.
That atk% can be used by most of the dps/sub dps. Although not the most optimal, atk% is usable. But, I think if you will pair xiao with a attack buffer, bennett or ttds, the difference is not that high
Looks like I'm gonna farm for the new set instead.I hope his rerun will be on the next patch. Also the lvl. 90 lost valley domain is very fun to clear. ty
Xiao gets massive dmg bonus from his kit so people build him for lot of atk. It is also the easiest buff to achieve in the game because Bennett and support sets. What Xiao really needed was crit dmg boost from 4 piece of his signature set. Because his weapon already has high crit rate. This isn't rocket science miHoYo.
VH is like PJWS but different proc condition. Considering Xiao's whole kit and sig revolves around increasing his attack as you deal damage, VH would be a great addition to that since he doesn't get anything from his burst hp consumption before. But 2 pc glad/vv is still good.
Farming for any 4 piece set is a nightmare. I love xiao the very first time I used him because the fact that I only need to farm 2 pc VV is such a relief.
Nice video, for players who already have their Xiao with The standard set, the new set it's not necessary, however for players who hasn't Xiao yet, this New set Is now The true focus on how to build him.
In my personal opinion (I'm Blessing of the Welkin Moon + Battle Pass Player) U can use your Bennett to other team instant stick with Xiao if u farm the new 4 Set Artifact for Xiao. But the problem is new artifact Xiao can team up with Zhongli + C4 Albedo + C4 Jean, which mean this team with be High-cost and not newbie friendly. I'm will stick with my 2 Glad + 2 Shime (75+/- & 189) with a Anemo Cup U can stick with this 2 Glad + 2 Shime (18%+18% ATK) or 2 Glad/Shime + 2 VV (18% ATK + 15% Anemo) Will recommended using a Anemo Cup for C6 Xiao, ATK cup still can be use but depends on how good your Artifact is
Up to 20 % dmg buff is nice, sure if you already farmed months for your xiao sets I understand your not farming it but if you're a player who wants to pull xiao and you don't have a set for him yet I would honestly go for it. Nice video btw, good work 👏
Nice, I was wondering if farm this, but the difference is so minimal then I just gonna farm HoD for Ayato because I can get Blizzard for Ayaka and others.
The way you did your stats on xiao really was full of attention to make the comparaison as fair as possible. Good job on that
thats why i like this channel, the comparisons is ballanced
@@N4b.f.r true
yeah max respect for that
True
Im surprised as well on how well the balance of both artifact.
this is the best, and most neutral comparison i have ever seen, the attention given to stats is just too good!
The 100% crit rate is smart so its a fate comparison
exactly, I don't want a blowout max damage due to unfair stats, I want similar stats and similar comparison, this youtuber went the extra mile and I applaud the effort... Also, this makes me choose which set is better for my playstyle.
Yeah and it serves the true purpose of thr video: to see the damage DIFFERENCE. If we want to see max dmg potential using this artif we wouldve looked for a showcase, not artifact comparison. So for artifact comparison this is hpw it should be, perfectly fair
The vermillion set has 70% crit dmg less
@@Kazu09330 no it doesnt 💀
Essentially just use whatever good artifacts you have for xiao because the dmg difference is minimal. Even with 2 glad and 2 shime, it is very good on him. I guess this new artifact set is for the players who really want to maximize his dmg, but farming for a good 4 piece set is a pain tho….
Yeah, you're absolutely right. The only thing I can see that the new set could do is to reduce your Energy problems by investing on ER since you already get excess attack.
Not really worth it to farm over 2pc VV/SR if you don't wanna get railed and creampied by artifact rng
Well, I personally find almost 20k more damage (specially taking in consideration that these builds from this showcase have really low Crit Dmg, with higher crit the difference in damage would be even more significant) fairly good!
But yes, for an increase of around 10% extra damage on a well built Xiao, this is definitely not worth it for people who's still in need of buildin' some other characters.
I'm included on those cases that "want to maximaze his damage", sure, but that's mostly 'cause I have no other character I wanna build atm and I also already have over 10 million Mora saved (and that's after fully upgradin' an Ayato, I was with almost 18kk before), I don't need to farm more resources. So to veteran players, I don't see why not farm it, since is a increase of damage for a character that doesn't have dedicated supports yet.
Mine's already at some respectable 2419 Atk, 85.1/188.4 Crit Rate and Dmg, while also havin' 135.6% ER with his 2-piece Viridescent + 2-piece Shimenawa Set, so I don't really need the upgrade _but, since Xiao is my favorite character, I have nothin' else to spend my Resin on and farming this new set will be at least easier to farm than Gladiator. I find it a reasonable investment.
I can even transfer my 2-piece sets that were his to other characters, would actually be really helpful on buildin' my future Yoimiya, for example, specially 'cause the 2 Shimenawa pieces I have are a Sands and a Circlet... but mostly, now I'll have motivation to even focus more on my Xiao's crit rate and crit damage rolls, instead of relying a lot on Atk% rolls as it had to be with my current set
@@lucasfreire8290 th-cam.com/video/E7MeVCZDcZ8/w-d-xo.html
if you going with a high base atk weapon, the different will be significantly
I will farm only because of 18 atk from them against bad glad and shim pieces i have…
my Xiao has 74% crit rate, 232% crit damage, were grinding artifacts for 6 months straight ever since I got him in 1.3 and until now for a bit. I don't think it's worthed to change artifacts for 2k damage difference.
thank you for the video showcase
Same
good xiao
My Xiao is 83/197 with 50k x 3 E.skill and 45k-65k burst + Bennet and dragon. I wanna change my artefct but after i saw your comment i think i wont change my artefact 😂
@@aditsyah8773 i have almost the same situation, almost rank 57, but never had anemo supports for xiao, only got jean and sucrose recently and also want to take kadzuha in future and the problem is they all want anemo set and farming new set for xiao may be a decision to give his pieces to them. Also in video crit dmg is almost equal, but in scale having 180-200+ crit dmg can give you a possibility to save bennet for another crew because the new set gives a lot of damage in perspective. The difference per plunge might be not 20-22k, but 50-70k and it is really a lot🤷🏼♀️
Same here! Maining Xiao since 1.3, but instead, it took me 10ish months to have 80/230, I'm not gonna suffer again when 2vv/2glad xiao is already strong enough
It's a 10-20% damage increase depending on your luck on the artifact roll.
yea exactly but honestly the amount of grinding required to get lucky enough for decent pieces like these, its not worth it unless your also grinding for Ayato and to be honest i have Ayato and i dont even want the new set because of the RNG mechanic. basically imo its not worth it but quite a few Genshin TH-camrs share my sentiment
It honestly isn't, mathematically speaking yeah.
If you however, are like me who doesn't rly have anyone to build and wants to max ur Xiao to a higher level, sure go farm it, just know that it's gon take long and might not be worth it time if ur Xiao already has cracked substats.
@@yubiyubiw yeah the thing is, those who already have Xiao probably have some cracked gladiator, shimenawa, or viridescent set that probably can go up to 60/200 cv.
20% damage to Xiao's plunge which minimum can deal 20k is just 2k additional damage, which is not worth the hard grind.
exactly 9,45... in other hand raiden c3 increase her dmg in 15% i think that is just way harder to get a 4p set while u can always farma glad on bosses and 2p on the domain
@@yubiyubiw yes exactly, i just meant like its not optimal when trying to make the most of your resin. ive been there too with certain characters, having no one else at the time to work on
I’ll be honest, I thought that the new set with Xiao a big damage difference. Looking at it now, it didn’t change much so. . . I’m just going to stick with glad and virdescent set for him and farm a new four piece virdescent set for my Kazuha.
Keep in mind that it's a Deathmatch (a weapon with low base attack) and low crit damage. If you have a 5 star weapon on Xiao, I would imagine the difference can become much more meaningful. And still, even in this comparison, the damage difference in one burst is one entire plunge attack. I do think it's a bit meaningful in the long run
You also have to remember the 4 piece only works when you lose health. So the less health you have the stronger it becomes. So it's not actually a good comparison, only at full health.
@@sjue316 no it was a fair comparison, the 4p was fully active during the 8 plunge test
@@sev559 Not really but you’re allowed to think it is. Again. The more health lost during the burst the stronger the attack is. That’s for normal, charged, burst, and skill.
@@sjue316 it caps out at 4 stacks. Read the artifact description
if you use a high base attack weapon such as calamity and primordial you can should go for 4pc vermilion, if you just use weapon with normal base attack don't go with 4pc vermilion. and also consider the substats that you have.
Could u explain why?
@@Levi-ft4zm bc the more base atk u have the more value you get from the atk%
I have homa on him tho
i have calamity on him (741 base atk is juicy af) and unfortunately not in the mood to grind for that 4pc set lol but i should consider that in the future
@@sunsin5235 thx bro
Unfortunately, Mihoyo is very negligent with Xiao, they always strives for nothing to buff him, and the set made for him has almost no difference from an improvised set. Meanwhile, Itto received a very strong set, and even received support designed to maximize Geo.
Yeah :/ I was hoping the 4 piece sit increases ATK and Anemo dmg bonus not just ATK+anemo supports to increase anemo dps damage
Not really, itto set vs 2 piece and 2 piece is only as much better as xiao's one, this set makes a huge difference in xiao's best team double geo double anemo, since he don't get much attack there and will be like 14% more dmg, 14% more dmg is huge, upgrading your talent levels from 8 to 10 is also pretty much this amount.
All the other character's 4 piece vs 2 pieces aren't that big of a difference too, expect something like blizzard.
Xiao true, doesn't have a good support. But that's the only thing he lacks, no need to lie about other things
you talk about itto (arataki itto numero uno!!) but ayato had 3 perfect sets and he got a signature one 😭
(and itto without his set would be-
you say that as if itto is the only one to benefit from the release of husk LMFAO. the set is for albedo, yunjin, and noelle as well. meanwhile xiao’s is Just for him. if anything you should be flattered they gave him an entire set that literally only HE can use.
This is the best comparison I've ever seen. Not a single minute waste. You did a great job. Subbing and not skipping ads .
This comparison again is balance stat and very helpful! Keep it up!
Sad that after all this time waiting for his artifact, its barely make a difference. And thank you for showing it
Wow.. you made nice effort for almost same stat. Btw note one thing that if you use jade spear which has high base atk of 674 you'll benefit more from atk buffs from new set.
That's how you do a video. Clear and straight to the point.
Btw can you make a 2shine2glad to 4 vh comparison?
xiao’s aoe is a pretty important thing to consider, especially in spiral abyss, when the enemies are all bunched together, a few thousand difference in damage can really affect your abyss runs. since xiao isnt really st dps, thought i’d point that out.
it surprises me a lot how the 48% extra atk% isn't a huge change from 15% anemo dmg bonus, however i loved to see how xiao's damage is still super good even with "only" 110% crit dmg, definitely a insane main dps, and the only reason why he was "powercrept" is because these annoying enemies with elemental shields on abyss that requires specific elements to break their shields faster, aside of that xiao still remains one of the best dps characters in the game
Now that's what multiplier means.
Big % numbers aren't everything. But good balance will do wonders.
Also , i wanted to point it out that low plunge and high plunge makes a wee bit of difference too, its a small amount but it does make a difference , nonetheless this comparison was greatt and good job :D
Diminishing returns if you're just trying to farm for the same exact stats of your good 2 pc sets. The biggest advantage to take away from farming for 4 pc Vermillion is you can go for an ER time piece and still retain all the atk% bonus because of the set effect, so it's a good opportunity to add quality of life changes to your rotations and team set ups so you're not fixated on always having slots taken up by anemo batteries when instead you can just add another dmg dealing support of any element.
If you have raiden, then you dont need no anemo battery
If you have 2pc glad/shim and 2pc viridiscent with good substats you don't have to farm for the new set, it's not worth resin except you also farms for the echoes set
And the echoes is an actually good set... idk why hoyo hates xiao so much this is a freaking joke
@@kittenmimi5326 one more thing, every mono element have their own elemental dmg booster support like Sara (electro) and Gorou (geo). Shenhe and Bennett not counted because they're cryo and pyro, Kazuha also can't boost anemo dmg. Anemo only have Jean, Venti, and anemo mc (Jean and Venti need some constellation) to apply anemo shred. Hoyo should make the anemo version of Shenhe who can buff plunge dmg and skill dmg
Best and most easy to follow damage comparison I've ever seen. Really excellent job.
I love these comparisons straight up with no 10min talk I appreciate you going to the point
i have both ayato and xiao and even though i have pretty decent artifact sets for both of them already before this doamin, I am still farming the new sets cuz 1)they look pretty 2)I like to switch up artifact sets every now and then 3)both their 2p stat are attack, so id say its a pretty safe domain to farm other than the emble/shimenawa domain
True, I have Xiao and Ayato too and it's a win/win in that domain because I could get Xiao artifacts or Ayato artifacts.. Unlike when I'm going in the Zhou domain, I could get a crimson witch, but I always get good lavawalkers which makes me angry >:(
This video is very easy to follow and I really appreciate what you did with the stat so as not to skew the results
Will you be doing a comparison for the new artif on yoimiya? And also thanks for making this kind of videos, farming for all of them must have been a pain
Worse than shimenawa. It doesnt work on her double-arrows, because she shoots them faster than 0.2 sec. Only 5 of the 7 arrows will get the bonus.
@@kisyperi3680 Really? That's upsetting, the set bonus looked really good on her :(
@@zeberiko In all honesty, it’s better to run Bolide on her if you have a shielder like Zhongli or Diona/Thoma. It has around the same NA bonus with none of the energy issues (also even though it’s bad her burst does add a lot for her damage and helps support other teammates so it shouldn’t be neglected)
You'd better stick to permanent buff rather than gacha dmg for yoimiya. Especially since she doesn't actually need her burst
@@browserjunior4707 Diona's shield can be broken unlike Thoma's refreshing, so with her bolide is unstable. NA bonus difference is small, but shime gives +18% atk which affect both NA and burst (~ +7% dmg). Burst animation takes LARGE amount of time, you know... Anyway, Bolide is still the second best option for Yoi.
I love how you got the artifacts por this comparison, actually insane video
Good job bro,, thanks,,
Honestly, xiao artifact is too late for him, i bet every xiao main has already got proper artifact for him, even from rerun banner
True i spend alot of time grind my ass of to find a good artifact for him, now the new set is released i just dont wanna spend so much time again just for 2k difference and would just rather build other team that helps xiao instead.
Pretty much this. i may farm it anyways for the AA set, I did run it some to see if I could get some fast good-luck Xiao pieces... nurp.
Yup. My Xiao is my most invested character with a great crit ratio. So there's no way ill be able to grind for this set. Though it will be a good set for future Xiao mains i think.
And to rub salt on the wound this new artif ain't even half decent
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Nice! Now this is how a comparison should look like.
Unlike many comparison videos out there, your build stats between 2 sets is really close which makes it fair and valid.
Something to think about is that the base atk of the polearm is fairly low, so the atk boos is limited
If you manage to get the jade spear the base atk goes through the roof
And the atk boost makes an even bigger difference with the sets
So if you have a 5 stats polearm
The new set makes quite the difference.
*clap* you got a sub, nice show, nice presentation, thank you for pausing each and explanation without filler. And literally loved the stat showed that you went to try to balance.
new artifacts for existing character will always be ~10% of damage increase, those who already have good artifacts with good substats can just ignore the new sets cause it's not worth the time and resin esp for those artifacts that require 4 sets effect
This is the best artifact set comparison/damage showcase I've ever watched, impressive, I wish all videos were this well put together :)
If you don't use benny with xiao you can go with this set but if you add Benny and with this artifacts atk buff the results is deminising.
You say it like possibility to not put Bennett is flaw...
@@_Yakshini_ bruh read first and try to understand what i said. If you take bennie's atk buff and with this set's atk buff together you get so less value compare to without benny and only with this artifact's buff. Too much external buffs diminish the buff of this set. Anyways in the end it's upto you how optimally you play ur character and with Benny or without benny is a flaw or not! I m just giving my opinion after i test myself. Don't just say anything without knowing what is the context behind the comments.
Wow...i been looking for such showcase for a long time...other creators talks alot instead of showing ...thank you it helped me alot ☺️
"The way you did your stats on xiao really was full of attention to make the comparaison as fair as possible. Good job on that" THIS!
love the lack of bgm, thank you and very well made comparison keep it up
ok I admit I'm kinda dumb..
I was like new artifacts comparison will come after like 1 week because they need to farm it worth like cr/cd 80/200
But I guess the way u did it it quite alright
man i just found out about your channel and your straight-to-the-point side by side comparisons is really great. keep up the great work!
I knew it . For all of you , Fellow Xiao's Mains . It's not recommended to farm this new artifacts since the damage increase from 2pc glad + 2pc shime / 2pc viri + 2pc glad/shime is only around 10% . And when we add those attack buffer like Bennett Burst. noblesse , tenacity , ttds and etc. The damage difference wil only be around 5% due to how Dimishing Return works in this game . A 5% damage increase is not really a good investment unless you :
1) don't have good shime/glad/viri sets already
2) just looking to maximize his damage
Someone said it in an earlier comment, but if you have high base atk weapons (primordial, queller, etc.) you will see more gains from new arti set. Just food for thought.
It is worth it alright, depends on what weapon you're using on him
The way mihoyo making all this artifact are balanced. We should always use what we have instead trying to force the 4 set.
Hello, what does diminishing returns mean? I heard the term quite a few times but I don’t understand what it means.
@@sichen3747 So , Regarding a very misunderstood topic of Jenshin , which is Dimishing return , I will try my best to summarise the calculation on Atk
For instance , let's imagine you have :
Base Atk = 1000
Atk% = 0
Flat Atk = 500
Using the formula = 1000 + (1000 * 0) + 500
= 1500
Now let's add 50% Atk into your character
Using the formula = 1000 + (1000*50%) + 500
= 2000
Which means you will have 33.33% increase
But
This time let's have :
Base Atk = 1000
Atk% = 100%
Flat Atk = 500
Using the formula = 1000 + (1000 * 100%) + 500
= 2500
Now let's add 50% Atk like what we did to the previous one
Using the formula = 1000 + (1000*150%) + 500
= 3000
Which means you will have 20% increase
It seems like the increase of numbers are the same , right ? But actually the value of it are decreasing the more you stack it and thus creating a Dimishing return .
Finally a side by side where I don't have to go crazy looking back and forth the vid thank you op
Me who has Xiao and has finally completed a decent Gladiator + Viridiscent set and now sees the new artifact is better.
Me: Oh boy!! That's another 8 mos. of grinding for me.
Fortunately even after 3 months of grinding, I do not have a decent glad + viridiscent. Lol😂
bro on regular basis you need 3 months for a character farming (aka using resins only for farming that domain).. Also the damage increase is minimal so yeah so you can go for it or stay with the same set unless you farm that domain for some1 like ayato yoimiya etc
I really cant move on to your content.... this is very different to others.. so very nice and awesome comparison.. no BS.. just straight info.. and very not confusing.. and very fair comparison. I am so happy to find this channel..
Honestly, after a whole year building the perfect Xiao (Jade Spear came home ❤️), I don't think I wanna build him all over again, I love him as he is now ❤️
Bro image that plus two pyro characters,thanks for helping me to decide which artifact I will use :)
I'm gonna use Vermilion hereafter coz it's a set dedicated for Xiao and lil bit of damage bonus is good
Just to remind you that this is using deathmatch which has low base atk. Idk if it'd be a larger difference with PJWS or not.
Edit:
Ok I checked the difference is bigger, yes. But, it's still small (±5k)
Good luck farming a good 4 pc set for 3 months.
@@simplestain6409 ive been farming eosf for 3 month now and i feel so great getting a lot of def% and hp%
@@simplestain6409 thnx
@@simplestain6409 lol is it sarcasm coz I have pc
Love this type of comparison. Please do more/ future videos like this :) Keep up the great work
My xiao is doing 70 k constantly in his burst and bennet with the new set
Wow
Damn boi
@@notachillguy2872 th-cam.com/video/E7MeVCZDcZ8/w-d-xo.html
Well i have staff of homa maybe because of that
@@MAziKa35 U just need a high base atk weapon on him to gain the maximum value out of this artifact set. I use primodial so I would gain even more than u do. Then there r those with calamity qweller who would gain even more than me
Thanks for this comparison. I was still hesitating to farm the new set, now I really think about farming it!
Both builds are good, Vermillion is a little better (10% more damage). I think it will depend on the sub-stats of the artifacts
I love this side by side comparison, instead of one video after the other, usually I forgot the previous number lol
The difference isnt much bcuz u r using a low base atk weapon on him
If u use a higher base atk weapon the diff will be a bit more as xiao will benefit morr from the new set buff
Yeah I agree with this a lot. I'm using skyward spine on him which has high base atk. And I've seen people comparing the sets with a 5 star weapon and the dmg difference is actually a lot bigger. Considering I also use a 5 star weapon, this domain is worth it for me.
very quick and detailed way to show the Artifact sets. it really all does depend on which artifacts set have better crits, as the dmg isnt that much of a difference but still is, showing that you can keep old set and save resin.
Not worth farming if you already have a great 2pc glad/shim + 2 pc VV
ALRIGHT THIS IS WHAT I WANT WHEN I WANT COMPARISONS WHEN IT COMES TO ARTIFACTS AND WEAPONS!!! I LOVE THIS! YOU GOT A NEW SUB.
Sorry I was drunk and I love to use Caps when I am drunk so thank you for this vid. ❤️
This might be the most useless artifact addition in the game.
lmao cry about it
Yeah , not worth farming at all
This was a very good comparison, it’s was a fair experiment. Thank you
straight to point. just how I like my informational YT videos :)
thank you! these are the best comparison videos i have ever seen.
Thank you so much for the demonstration. Now I can collect new artifacts with peace of mind
I love your videos, it helps me a lot to know if I should farm something or to know if it´s not worth it, I´m someone who even uses Excel to see the artifact sets and stuff, so your information gives me peace.
SO this is one of the best comparisons I have ever seen in showing a 1:1 vacuum showcase BUT a tip is to also explain WHY one artifact would be better than the other in non-vacuum environments too. The reason the new artifact set is so good for Xiao is you do not need benny anymore, and if you have a good base ATK polearm (jade) you can ignore ALL atk substat rolls on artifacts and still be out on top in atk, allowing you more room for crit values.
The new artifact set, unfortunately, doesnt give any DMG boosts which anemo does not have a large pool available to them so the 2 pc and 2 pc help alleviate the lack of atk stat with some dmg increase but 15% just is not going to outweigh the 48% atk you get from the new set. Food for thought, LOVE the freeze frame numbers too, just easy to follow.
This is a great comparison with pretty equal stats. I think a lot of people are thinking of the 2k difference wrong. this video was made on very basic stats to show you the difference. If you compare it with great artifacts you will see a noticeable difference. It looks like its a minimum of 10% dmg increase. I'm thinking you will see a minimum of 10% to 20% increase if you get good rolls on artifacts. Great job on showing the difference.
Best comparison ever.. its not like the other video that are very confusing.. omg you are the best.. if I can only donate money.. i will.. more video like this
These type of guides is wat I'm looking for
Thank you, bro. This is the best comparison i have ever seen
Thanks for respecting my time. No useless chatter and info dump. Just what I needed.
I really love the way you do comparisons. Both have the same stats to isolate the difference of the artifact set. Great job 👏👏
Your comparison videos are very good and helpful!
I joined in 2.1 and got Xiao during the Lantern Rite Festival in January. I currently have him at C2. I took a break for 2 1/2 months since I moved and focused more on school. I'm probably gonna farm for this set since I don't have a good Viridescent & Gladiator/Shimenawa set for Xiao unlike other who farmed for months.
Great video! I will continue farming shime because I am also building Raiden, so both sets are useful. Plus, my Xiao is already fully built with 2 VV 2 shime (78.9% CR, 210.9% CD), so it would take A LOT of resin to get better artifacts.
If I get to a point where most of my characters are fully built, then I might go back and farm this domain.
Love the attention to detail especially when you waited after using burst to have 1 stack of the 1st ascension passive for both
this is the most specific, detailed, and neutral comparison ive ever met.. thank u sm im cryin now my eyes r opened im blessed AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I guess it's settled then, I ain't farming a whole 4 pc set and mald because of substat rolls just for a 10% dmg increase lmao. Thanks for this comparison, really appreciate it.
This type of comparison is best for me coz I'm one of those who don't understand Genshin math. Tysm.
thank you so much, I've been wondering whether to continue trying my hands on vermillion or just keep farming the viridescent that is actually descent 😂
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we found one more o7
Cool video! now I will farming the new artifact. Btw do you have video for build chongyun and diona? need that for new abyss chamber
Glad to know my Xiao is on par with other people's Xiaos, i'm hoping i could improve my own even further by trying to increase his crit damage even higher
Finally some good work of showing dmg comparison Nice
Very good stats for comparisons. Great video dude
I know someone who uses heart of depth on ayato, he told me he's not gonna farm the new artifacts
I personally wanted to upgrade my Xiao, but the viridescent domain is pain. Now that I got Ayato I can farm for him and also for Xiao so I think it is good to spend resin on the Vermilion domain.
That atk% can be used by most of the dps/sub dps. Although not the most optimal, atk% is usable.
But, I think if you will pair xiao with a attack buffer, bennett or ttds, the difference is not that high
I would say Vermillion has the highest dmg potential compare to 2pc glad and 2pc Vir but farming a 4pc set really takes time and really a pain lmao
I need this so bad because I'm too lazy to farm new artefacts. Thank goodness the gap isn't that far
Looks like I'm gonna farm for the new set instead.I hope his rerun will be on the next patch. Also the lvl. 90 lost valley domain is very fun to clear. ty
this is honestly the best comparision ive ever seen
Btw the new sets have a glitch or a bug according to some sources btw where the passive of the new sets won’t work atleats that’s what I heard
the first pause made me think my wifi went out lol
It's a minimal difference but overall does have an impact on if you can kill something faster. Good for those people who min-max spiral abyss
I'm glad I discovered your channel so I don't have to do the testing myself 😂
I dont subscribe to anyone easily, but you really earned it. Good comparison.
Xiao gets massive dmg bonus from his kit so people build him for lot of atk. It is also the easiest buff to achieve in the game because Bennett and support sets.
What Xiao really needed was crit dmg boost from 4 piece of his signature set. Because his weapon already has high crit rate. This isn't rocket science miHoYo.
VH is like PJWS but different proc condition. Considering Xiao's whole kit and sig revolves around increasing his attack as you deal damage, VH would be a great addition to that since he doesn't get anything from his burst hp consumption before. But 2 pc glad/vv is still good.
Farming for any 4 piece set is a nightmare. I love xiao the very first time I used him because the fact that I only need to farm 2 pc VV is such a relief.
Nice video, for players who already have their Xiao with The standard set, the new set it's not necessary, however for players who hasn't Xiao yet, this New set Is now The true focus on how to build him.
DID JUST SEE A 107% AND A 117%CRIT RATE
Thanks I will probably keep my build for now but change later on
Guys it's depending to the weapon if it's jade or queller u should go for the new 4p bc it's based on atk if not: stay with ur actual 4p
Thanks for the great comparison!!
In my personal opinion (I'm Blessing of the Welkin Moon + Battle Pass Player)
U can use your Bennett to other team instant stick with Xiao if u farm the new 4 Set Artifact for Xiao.
But the problem is new artifact Xiao can team up with Zhongli + C4 Albedo + C4 Jean, which mean this team with be High-cost and not newbie friendly.
I'm will stick with my 2 Glad + 2 Shime (75+/- & 189) with a Anemo Cup
U can stick with this 2 Glad + 2 Shime (18%+18% ATK) or 2 Glad/Shime + 2 VV (18% ATK + 15% Anemo)
Will recommended using a Anemo Cup for C6 Xiao, ATK cup still can be use but depends on how good your Artifact is
Up to 20 % dmg buff is nice, sure if you already farmed months for your xiao sets I understand your not farming it but if you're a player who wants to pull xiao and you don't have a set for him yet I would honestly go for it.
Nice video btw, good work 👏
Nice, I was wondering if farm this, but the difference is so minimal then I just gonna farm HoD for Ayato because I can get Blizzard for Ayaka and others.