Listen to what Kemba said, ""I could be pissed, but at the end of the day there are some young guys here who look up to me. Maybe I can be a role model. I love being around my teammates and I'm going to cheer them on until I can't anymore."" Even after been mistreated, he still has a kind soul toward others.
Any other superstar would demand a trade. Kemba is an all around nice guy, thibs is an asshole and the knicks promote such behavior. It’s no surprise they’ve been shit for decades.
@@Trivedi_Tuesdays "any other superstar". LOOOOOOOOOOL. Dude's trash. His shot selection is hideous, he doesn't "run the offense" and set other players up and he's a complete defensive liability. I know with 100% certainty you're a Kemba fan and not a Knick fan because any true Knicks fans would tell you he was awful.
Randle ball hogging possessions stunts the offense a lot. Last year he was making those tough jumpers which is not sustainable, how can coach not see this??
It’s not all 100% on Randle. It’s the offense totally. Too much isolations and dribbles less ball movement and player movement = Stagnant offense. Coach Tom is defense first and offense 2nd
I mean... We're talking about a coach that still plays his starter when his team is already up by 20 and there's like a minute left of the 4th quarter lol.
@@alexandretaranoff714 defense yeah at times he is lazy but on offense the past like 5-8 games he has stopped ball hogging and been playing better Bc of it
Those sequences with Taj Gibson look SOOOOO different from the other sequences. Taj Gibson actually makes smart team plays while a lot of the other sequences look like 1-2 man actions with everyone else just kind of lackadaisically moving around without thinking (fournier) or just standing on the perimeter thinking they are spacing. This is the opposite of the Warriors who cut. I'm not good enough on defense to know what would help, but surely Randall's defense is almost like defending 4.5 on 5.
Randle actually reminding me of Josh Smith when he was with the Pistons. He was ball hogging a lot. Their standing then became better when he was traded or waived if I remember correctly.
Josh Smith, apart from that one szn on the Hawks when he was a defensive menace, is probly the most detrimental big-name player in modern basketball. Never improved
You are almost right about Josh Smith but it was not just with the pistons. He was only good in his early years with the hawks when he was young and eager. Then he sort of developed a jump shot (broken?) and relied on that ever since. Oh and the ball hugging too just like Randle.
The thing is that his role would be a energetic Small scoring guard who lightens up the second squad... And D-Rose and Quickley are already shining in those roles
Kemba was actually that bad my friend. He wasn’t scoring or shooting consistently at all and he was the worst defender on the rotation. Even worse with Evan Fournier. The only bright side of Kemba was him rubbing pick and rolls with Randle and making some right passes but his defense was the reason he got cut from rotation. Coach Tom prefers defense and Alec Burks deserved to get that spot since he was performing very well.
It's just like 2013-2014. The problem is they overachieved last year (like 2012-2013) and let it go to their heads. The Fournier contract is also a total nightmare when you think about ways to fix things.
This just shows how bad of a coach Thibs is… as a coach, you’re supposed to maximize and find the best ways to extract value out of your players. Thibs giving up on Kemba is only going to psychologically hurt Kemba & damage the team from not having Walker on the floor!
also the way that he just went like 0 to 100. Kemba wasnt benched, he went from starter to OUT OF THE ROTATION, like Thibs aint even trying to experiment with lineups and finds what works.
Small sample shown here, but christ those ball screens by Randle were garbage. Clear he already decided he was going to take the 3 so why set a good screen for optimal results when the decision is "If they switch or stay, I'm shooting it" Those were not helping the Offense at all.
I’m a D Rose fan so I kinda been following the Knicks. Julius Randle is a big part of their problems, especially his decision making. Plus he leaves guys wide open and takes bad shots
They are still good they compete and much of the success from last season was defense and depth but clearly Knicks would be in a better position if they have a #1 option like a Kahwi or a Derozen or upgrading in Randle or minimizing his touches
I lived in Chicago during the Bulls championships and through Tibs time as coach. I noticed three things about his coaching style. First, he coaches every offensive possession like it's the last minute of game 7 of the NBA finals. He has a short bench rotation and starters play lots of minutes. Finally, it's defense, defense, not offensive skills that he prefers. In short, great coaches adjust to the game, change their ways of dealing with players, Tibs hasn't changed. He's an old style NBA coach in a players league, he's not for todays modern game. He worn out his welcome in Chi, MN, and my guess is he won't last long in NY either.
They play Julius too much like a wing he's at his best slashing, facing up beating his man to the cup, and taking middies. 5 threes a game is too much especially for his percentages. He should be incorporated like he was on Nola where he shot 52% from the field at 21 ppg.
I want to personally thank you for making this video as a Knicks fan, Kemba was certainly a negative but he was far from the core issues on this team, they are still awful defensively, the starting lineup is still terrible and Randle is still deflating possessions with his ball stopping to take a fade away mid range or a 3 that bricks almost every time, Randle should have his minutes cut into at least and more of them should be given to both Obi Toppin and Taj Gibson respectively.
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I've been saying it since last years playoffs, Julius is the issue with this team. He thinks he is a lot better than he is, and takes way too many shots. He also doesn't have any hustle at all on D. Infuriating that the organization treats Julius like a superstar.
Totally agree!!! They almost credit him for saving the franchise when really if you think about it- it was DRose. Randle helped for sure but he's just not a Superstar or star for that matter. The playoffs proved that. Thibs and the organization is also to blame for treating him like the main cog and allowing him to iso and jack 3s as the 1st. And let's not even talk about him on D. Ever seen his body language on scores? He should be traded while he still has some worth.
Hate to say it but the Knicks are a mess again. The Fournier contract is a disaster that they’ll have to attach 1st round picks to to get out of. Randle clearly overachieved last year- he’ll never again shoot over 40% from 3 and his defensive intensity has been way less consistent. Every guard on the team can easily be beaten off the dribble leading to constant wide open 3s and easy put backs. They’re also too good to tank for a top 5 pick. I honestly have no idea where they go from here to get better
Knicks for the better part of a decade have been banking on free agents who haven’t come. Their young core isn’t as good as we thought. Paying Mitchell Robinson with his injury history would be a mistake. Trade every rotation player besides RJ and Quickly and build around your guards. Fournier might stay just because his contract is hard to trade.
They don’t go anywhere from here they should’ve tried to develop young talent which they historically struggled to do but they’re trying to actually be competitive to go nowhere. I was never a fan of Randle’s game either because he’s not a scalable player at all
@@mattmmixes IMHO it's a NBA problem all together.. There's too much focus on Athleticism, JR plays like a High Shcool Aau player.. Iso 15 dribbles and a bad shot! The Knicks have a leadership problem ever notice how the players always have low moral?
One other thing i noticed about randle in these clips is that there is 0 effort from him to set a good screen on all these plays, he literally just stands there lmao
This sounds like a very weird situation. Is the coach prone to bouts of emotional overreacting? Did the GM and coach talk before the signing because it sounds like he was a good version of what they should have expected. Why haven't they expiremented at all with other options? Is something happening off court between coach and player we don't know about? Why just completely shut him down? Is the plan to trade him and they're worried that playing him will make him value plummet? What a bizarre situation.
As a Bulls fan, I can tell you that Thibs is not exactly the type of coach who likes tinkering. He will ride or die with what he knows has worked in the past, for better or worse. This old school approach and lack of flexibility are why his teams will never win a championship.
I thought about that too but I watched the team closely and there were too many plays when Kemba just didn't seem to play defense. His efforts would be half-hearted and other PGs would light him up. Also, Kemba is a NY guy and a league veteran so I don't know how well he took to Thibs yelling and screaming (just my opinion). So finally Thibs had enough and he's the kind of coach where once you're in the doghouse, it's almost impossible to get out. Belichick is a lot like this and I know they're good friends.
Kemba benefitted from Theis’ seal in Boston when he played there and that’s what Thibs should look at. They gotta open up lanes by sealing the opposing center/power forwards.
How? You have centers who never stray away from the post. Same reason randle struggling...Randle been struggling for 2 years lol. Also lack of high assist PG , we haven't had a PG avg 8 assist since RAYMOND FELTON...i'll say it again RAYMOND f'in FELTON LOL
Thibs did the same thing with Austin Rivers last year. I thought that that they would've benefited if they played Rivers last year since they needed scoring from the guard position so badly
Great video. I thought I was the only one who saw this. People get paid thousands of dollars to try and figure out what is going on with the team. The biggest problem with me was Randle especially after what happen in the playoffs. He is killing the team not Kemba. U need the right group of people together to make them a complete team.
As a Cavs fan when we played the knicks I seen 2 troubling things from their best player randle, his body language and his complaining. When your best player has bad body language that can rub off on the rest of the team.
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Randle is a Carmelo-wannabe with a below average shot. Players like him are most effective as primary scorers in second units or secondary scorers with a first unit.
I met him at a basketball camp when I was in middle school right after he got drafted and I was shocked to see how short he was when I dapped him up. I was an inch or two taller than him.
Yes they did and I don't care what anyone says. Kemba wasn't the problem, yes he can't play defense but you didn't bring him here for that. Come playoff time he would've turned up and they will miss his offense.
Did you forget what Kemba did in playoffs for Boston Celtics??? Remember that Miami series??? Kemba got played out of the floor. Too small to guard, he was defensive liability and he couldn’t buy making a bucket or shooting. That was the reason BOS decided to cut him. Stop making Kemba the victim. He’s not the same player when he was at Hornets and he hasn’t proved ANYTHING that he is elite in the playoffs. I easily say Isiah Thomas (pre-injury) was a much better player in the playoffs then Kemba was as in the playoffs.
Ikr he’s still riding the credit for the bulls rose era which none of the credit belongs to him in fact he actually rand the team into the ground which is counter productive with conditioning because proper rest is a part of it. He might just take the #1 spot ahead of fizdale as the biggest fraud in nba history
As a Bulls fan who watched him for 5 years, he is not overrated at all. His teams consistently outperformed their talent level when he was allowed control over the roster. Kemba isn't a Thibs guy and his signing just felt like fan service for a dissapointing offseason.
When the Knicks began 5-1 everyone was thinking playoffs. Now I’m hearing tank talk and whether Kemba was done wrong. What about the coaching? Where’s the defense?
So glad to see this man i drafted Kemba in fantasy and i watch a lot of their games and i noticed all this stuff with the Knicks team I was feeling bad for Kemba all season and annoyed with the coaching
Thibs teams seem to always have trouble closing. Any offensive momentum gets halted if they lead in 4th as they stop playing to win & start playing not to lose. Feels like it’s been this way even when he coached the Bulls
I don’t know-Thibs IS a good coach…but god-sometimes he makes silly/dumb decisions. As a Chicago fan-I know this all too well 😑😑 Kemba’s offense (IMO) makes up for his size.
He’s good defensively but he can’t do shit offensively which is why I didn’t really want him at first. I’m glad for what he did but he’s also part of the problem.
Coach Nick, thanks for doing this one. Helping one pass away has hurt us big time. If the guards could deny penetration that would help alleviate our problem. Plus, RJ needs to get back to his natural position at the SG spot is another.
Thanks for watching! And even if you get beat, there are a lot of times where the guy helping 1 pass away doesn’t need to because weakside rotation is there
@@bballbreakdown Do you mean Meech or Noel? If they come help, then some one would have to cover their man under the basket. Is that called sink and fill?
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5:19 I don't recall this play exactly, but if Randle's 1 foul away from being in foul trouble, he tends to let those go, like many other players would.
If I'm not mistaken coach, didn't Thibodeau run a similar defense scheme with the Bulls some years back and blame Lavine's "lack of effort" for their defensive woes?
Damn, at this rate maybe the Knicks should go back to tanking again. Get a great draft pick that can lead to a franchise player because Randle is just not the guy this year.
Randle is one dimensional , nothing but left hand and thats it cannot view the game doesn't have playmaking at all for a franchise player this is horrendous, so is rj Barrett. Imo kemba should be out there and given a chance, he can't be good right away, he needs time.
all I’m going to say, The raptors game, Kemba isn’t missing that 3 that Randle missed to cost the game. Thibs lost my respect for singling Kemba out when the forest is burning and Randle and Fournier are the flames..
Kemba is the poor man's Dame. A combo guard that can go off offensively at any given night, but is always a defensive liability, does not facilitate the offense well enough and is very ball heavy. Somewhat, like how Russ runs an offense, his 1st option is to get a bucket, if that is not possible in any way, that's when he passes. Harden has always been like this too.
I don't think Terry Stots or Thibs know how to play 2020's basketball. Kemba could be a PG for a chip level team, but no space to operate in picks and no elite wing to switch his match ups defensively doesn't play in Kemba's favor, thus letting him out to dry on National TV.
6:15 this is why i always thought the knicks D was sus... even last year. im pretty sure that even last season, the knicks were giving away lots of open looks, but other teams just werent hitting for some reason... and since it was happening all season, people thought the knicks D was ok. but on a long enough timeline, if you keep giving up those kinds of looks, other teams are gonna start cashing in. fck this team... i dont know why i keep rooting for them.
and dont even get me started on randle... ive been saying since the ATL series... he didnt have the yips... he flat out got exposed... but other knick fans for some reason just kept refusing to believe what was plainly obvious.
I don’t understand how some guy on TH-cam can see and communicate this clear as day, but the highly paid professionals in the front office seem to just make random decisions like kemba is completely out if the rotation.
Great job- you should send this to the Knicks coaching staff. The Knicks are NOT okay. Randle had a good year last year but there were lots of holes in his game. He was near the bottom in scoring in last-minute possessions and was completely exposed in the playoffs. What did that mean? That he wasn't a TRUE 1st (or even second option) on a contending team. The Knicks lucked out on Kemba because OKC didn't want him and Fournier was never known for his defense. The Knicks made a HUGE mistake letting Reggie Bullock walk when we could have gotten him for a lot cheaper. I also noticed that the Knicks don't look for Robinson nearly as much as they did last year. Seems like everyone is interested in jacking 3s and padding their stats versus playing for each other like they did last year.
You can’t bench the whole team, and you’re not going to cut minutes for your All Star forward. Kemba was a new arrival this year, so he’s an easy scapegoat.
Good vid! totally classless way to handle Kemba Walker's situation, including the permanent benching. Walker deserves more respect and fails deserving his genius of a coach announcing the benching to the world. There are ways to reduce playing time other than the "Tibbs method". As to Randle, this is just bad bad coaching. It was neither Walker or Randle, but "the coach". It became apparent in the playoffs last year that Knicks coaching staff is clueless on the O side and this year that they are clueless on the D side as well.
I feel Kemba has always been overrated (not a max player IMO) but he definitely belongs in any team rotation. I think the problem is the Knicks overall and rightfully called out Randle. If your number one option is Randle, you are doomed. He's good don't get me wrong, but on a team that wants to contend, Randle should *at most* be your number two guy. He's too inefficient offensively and outside of 1:1 defense, I think he is not a very good defender.
Lack of good P&R ball handler has been the biggest problem for Knicks since they ever had Jason Kidd& Felton on 12-13 season. Last season Knicks is the only playoff team without franchise ball handler. If these's a one, usually Rose is limited to play at 25 mins. Although Jokic& Giannis are much better, they still have Murray or Holiday. Randle play bad so far, lack a good ball handler makes it looks even worse on him. Last season Hawks showed how to defense him and it's still workable. If Knicks make move on him I won't surprise, Pacers has clicked the first button. Knicks have too many guards is another problem, Bullock and Payton out, Fournier and Walker in, plus they draft 2 guards this season, in this big wings era, it have to pay the price. Lack of play time is hard to raise the value for players.
They really need to start rose and taj. Keep rose's minutes to under 30. But you need the vet mentality to control the game. Kemba leading the 2nd unit should be fine
There's nothing wrong about kemba. Its on the management, you always rely on randle in many possessions. And you think burks is a legit point guard instead quickey//rose? Cmon.
I saw this coming since before the season began. Knicks had success as a young team without a true star - although Randle has been stepping up big as a Knick. Kemba is an aging scorer, not known for distributing the ball. Tibbs is a defence first guy, and Kemba doesn't give a lot on that end. Kemba is slowing down while the rest of the Knicks are picking up pace. He's not a good enough scorer to make up for that in a league with so many great scorers. I simply never saw the fit.
It just seems weird that he benched Kemba exclusively when the whole starting lineup was struggling, a guy like Fournier is a huge negative on defense, maybe more than Kemba, and brings less on offense. The reality is, Thibs is way too extremist of a coach, that ruined his tenure in Chicago and the same is happening now in NYC, he will never be a championship coach
Agree, i haven't seen Doc Rivers or Popovic behave like that. Chemistry after that goes south, that hits others too as they can be in same spot as Kemba is now..
I think Randell had kemba benched cause kemba was looking him off a lot. Why. Well maybe all the bad shots.low basketball IQ. Or him jumping in the air passing the ball
Listen to what Kemba said, ""I could be pissed, but at the end of the day there are some young guys here who look up to me. Maybe I can be a role model. I love being around my teammates and I'm going to cheer them on until I can't anymore.""
Even after been mistreated, he still has a kind soul toward others.
We really don't know but you sometimes you have to say the right words in front of the media to avoid flak. Hope that's true though
i would have said that too with the money he is earning
How was he mistreated? Thibs gave his his respect as a person and player but had to make a difficult choices it had to be done.
Any other superstar would demand a trade. Kemba is an all around nice guy, thibs is an asshole and the knicks promote such behavior. It’s no surprise they’ve been shit for decades.
@@Trivedi_Tuesdays "any other superstar". LOOOOOOOOOOL. Dude's trash. His shot selection is hideous, he doesn't "run the offense" and set other players up and he's a complete defensive liability. I know with 100% certainty you're a Kemba fan and not a Knick fan because any true Knicks fans would tell you he was awful.
Randle ball hogging possessions stunts the offense a lot. Last year he was making those tough jumpers which is not sustainable, how can coach not see this??
He commented on the tough unsustainable shots last year in 2 videos after the Hawks series
Randle the king of 21 foot 2pt jumpshot lol like why practice that?
It’s not all 100% on Randle. It’s the offense totally. Too much isolations and dribbles less ball movement and player movement = Stagnant offense. Coach Tom is defense first and offense 2nd
Bruh Randle be like Josh Smith when he was with the Pistons. I wouldn’t be surprised if they become better if they trade him.
I mean... We're talking about a coach that still plays his starter when his team is already up by 20 and there's like a minute left of the 4th quarter lol.
Glad you brought up Randle. I knew something wasn't right about his play this year. Kemba getting most of the blame but he doesn't deserve all of it.
My thoughts exactly Randle efforts offensively and defensively are subpar leaning on unacceptable
@@alexandretaranoff714 defense yeah at times he is lazy but on offense the past like 5-8 games he has stopped ball hogging and been playing better Bc of it
Same here. Didn't know 5his until you mentioned all in details.
Great job
@@jetsfan1435 but he isn’t his last year self and that is a problem. Thibs is scared to bench him when Toppin is playing much much better
Those sequences with Taj Gibson look SOOOOO different from the other sequences. Taj Gibson actually makes smart team plays while a lot of the other sequences look like 1-2 man actions with everyone else just kind of lackadaisically moving around without thinking (fournier) or just standing on the perimeter thinking they are spacing. This is the opposite of the Warriors who cut. I'm not good enough on defense to know what would help, but surely Randall's defense is almost like defending 4.5 on 5.
yeah. the coaching staff needs to look theirselves in the mirror and also see that they are not doing a good enough job for this team
Randle is actually a solid defender when he wants to try but you could say that for the whole starting 5 they at times just don’t put effort in
unfortunately gibson is useless on offense. but yes randle is pure trash and should be traded for anything we can get.
Agreed. The Knicks look like they are playing rec center ball. 🗑
in the Warriors...only Steph moves off ball. Their whole offence is built around Steph's movement.
Randle actually reminding me of Josh Smith when he was with the Pistons. He was ball hogging a lot. Their standing then became better when he was traded or waived if I remember correctly.
Josh Smith, apart from that one szn on the Hawks when he was a defensive menace, is probly the most detrimental big-name player in modern basketball. Never improved
You are almost right about Josh Smith but it was not just with the pistons. He was only good in his early years with the hawks when he was young and eager. Then he sort of developed a jump shot (broken?) and relied on that ever since. Oh and the ball hugging too just like Randle.
That’s leftist
The Pistons paid him for 4-5 years to not play for them. He was out of the league and still getting paid by them up to 2019!
I'm glad im not the only one to think this.
Even if he wasn't playing that well. How do you take a player like kemba out of rotation? He should at least come off the bench
The thing is that his role would be a energetic Small scoring guard who lightens up the second squad... And D-Rose and Quickley are already shining in those roles
Rose and Quickly are the bench guards. If they rolled out Kemba with them, the team would be too small unfortunately. I guess easier to trade him.
@@Jason-uw9ex That's100% cap. Look at how Thibs handled that situation. He never wanted Kemba in the first place.
Kemba was actually that bad my friend. He wasn’t scoring or shooting consistently at all and he was the worst defender on the rotation. Even worse with Evan Fournier. The only bright side of Kemba was him rubbing pick and rolls with Randle and making some right passes but his defense was the reason he got cut from rotation. Coach Tom prefers defense and Alec Burks deserved to get that spot since he was performing very well.
D-Rose > Kemba
Kemba was just the biggest symptom of the Knicks overall problem. Their entire defense has been completely discombobulated
thibs continuing the trend of his teams falling off a cliff after 1-2 good years.
It's just like 2013-2014. The problem is they overachieved last year (like 2012-2013) and let it go to their heads. The Fournier contract is also a total nightmare when you think about ways to fix things.
@@mattmmixes As a Knicks fan please don't let that be true.😱
@@sandman1347 The defensive scheme is horrible. It's not a good strategy and Evan "The Human Turnstile" Fournier is one of our biggest liabilities.
Kemba & fournier were bad signings. Should have gone after Lowry or Demar
This just shows how bad of a coach Thibs is… as a coach, you’re supposed to maximize and find the best ways to extract value out of your players. Thibs giving up on Kemba is only going to psychologically hurt Kemba & damage the team from not having Walker on the floor!
also the way that he just went like 0 to 100. Kemba wasnt benched, he went from starter to OUT OF THE ROTATION, like Thibs aint even trying to experiment with lineups and finds what works.
@@futurehofer1564 he has been experimenting with the rotation all season, kemba is just too much of a liability on defense and has lost a step
@@ichirosuzuki2252 Did u not watch the video?
@@Steamedhams578 I did, it was wrong
@@ichirosuzuki2252 Then why has the defense gotten even worse with Kemba not playing?
Small sample shown here, but christ those ball screens by Randle were garbage. Clear he already decided he was going to take the 3 so why set a good screen for optimal results when the decision is "If they switch or stay, I'm shooting it" Those were not helping the Offense at all.
This is an epidemic in the NBA
@@bballbreakdown HUGE problem in Charlotte. I’ve watch players even deny screen requests from the PG. No hyperbole.
That's why they don't win
I’m a D Rose fan so I kinda been following the Knicks. Julius Randle is a big part of their problems, especially his decision making. Plus he leaves guys wide open and takes bad shots
Same, only watch the games for dross. Randle could be a good 6th man, but you won’t get anywhere with him as your man guy.
@@davidwynter2549 6th man? Lol disrespect
@@boonebeasley9622 6th man is a stretch but Randle is fools’ gold
Yea randle takes terrible shots and plays no defense
@@boonebeasley9622 its not when the man him self has said he wouldn't mind the award.
The real problem is... the Knicks thought they were good after last year. Overperforming causes problems too.
damn i never thought about it like that but that's a really good point.
Their fans got fooled too. Hell they thought they were gonna beat the hawks lol
They are still good they compete and much of the success from last season was defense and depth but clearly Knicks would be in a better position if they have a #1 option like a Kahwi or a Derozen or upgrading in Randle or minimizing his touches
Their fans hyped them up like they were Finals contenders as if they've been consistently in the playoffs for years lmao.
Lol monty got robbed!
I lived in Chicago during the Bulls championships and through Tibs time as coach. I noticed three things about his coaching style. First, he coaches every offensive possession like it's the last minute of game 7 of the NBA finals. He has a short bench rotation and starters play lots of minutes. Finally, it's defense, defense, not offensive skills that he prefers. In short, great coaches adjust to the game, change their ways of dealing with players, Tibs hasn't changed. He's an old style NBA coach in a players league, he's not for todays modern game. He worn out his welcome in Chi, MN, and my guess is he won't last long in NY either.
They play Julius too much like a wing he's at his best slashing, facing up beating his man to the cup, and taking middies. 5 threes a game is too much especially for his percentages. He should be incorporated like he was on Nola where he shot 52% from the field at 21 ppg.
I want to personally thank you for making this video as a Knicks fan, Kemba was certainly a negative but he was far from the core issues on this team, they are still awful defensively, the starting lineup is still terrible and Randle is still deflating possessions with his ball stopping to take a fade away mid range or a 3 that bricks almost every time, Randle should have his minutes cut into at least and more of them should be given to both Obi Toppin and Taj Gibson respectively.
I don't like Knick fans
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Come again?
7:03 this play right here just blows my mind. where tf was julius going man 😂
I think he was going to the same place JR Smith was going at the end of Game 1 of the 2018 NBA Finals. HAHA🤣HAHA!!!
I've been saying it since last years playoffs, Julius is the issue with this team. He thinks he is a lot better than he is, and takes way too many shots. He also doesn't have any hustle at all on D. Infuriating that the organization treats Julius like a superstar.
Totally agree!!! They almost credit him for saving the franchise when really if you think about it- it was DRose. Randle helped for sure but he's just not a Superstar or star for that matter. The playoffs proved that. Thibs and the organization is also to blame for treating him like the main cog and allowing him to iso and jack 3s as the 1st. And let's not even talk about him on D. Ever seen his body language on scores? He should be traded while he still has some worth.
Knicks is really cursed lol.
He is their star ,i dont agree but it is what it is .
@@anthonyriche552 yup,derrick rose is the reason for their early success and his injury brought them back to mediocrity .
Idk how Kemba got dropped, he's still good, just not for the Knicks I guess.
Hate to say it but the Knicks are a mess again. The Fournier contract is a disaster that they’ll have to attach 1st round picks to to get out of. Randle clearly overachieved last year- he’ll never again shoot over 40% from 3 and his defensive intensity has been way less consistent. Every guard on the team can easily be beaten off the dribble leading to constant wide open 3s and easy put backs. They’re also too good to tank for a top 5 pick. I honestly have no idea where they go from here to get better
Knicks for the better part of a decade have been banking on free agents who haven’t come. Their young core isn’t as good as we thought. Paying Mitchell Robinson with his injury history would be a mistake. Trade every rotation player besides RJ and Quickly and build around your guards. Fournier might stay just because his contract is hard to trade.
Did you honestly expect anything different from the Kinicks?
Worst org in NBA?
They don’t go anywhere from here they should’ve tried to develop young talent which they historically struggled to do but they’re trying to actually be competitive to go nowhere.
I was never a fan of Randle’s game either because he’s not a scalable player at all
Lol Knicks made it to the playoffs 1 year and then turns back into the Knicks again.
@@mattmmixes IMHO it's a NBA problem all together.. There's too much focus on Athleticism, JR plays like a High Shcool Aau player.. Iso 15 dribbles and a bad shot! The Knicks have a leadership problem ever notice how the players always have low moral?
One other thing i noticed about randle in these clips is that there is 0 effort from him to set a good screen on all these plays, he literally just stands there lmao
Randle's and barret's game is so inefficient that's the real problem for the knicks. Randle's shooting last season was not sustainable
This sounds like a very weird situation. Is the coach prone to bouts of emotional overreacting? Did the GM and coach talk before the signing because it sounds like he was a good version of what they should have expected. Why haven't they expiremented at all with other options? Is something happening off court between coach and player we don't know about? Why just completely shut him down? Is the plan to trade him and they're worried that playing him will make him value plummet? What a bizarre situation.
As a Bulls fan, I can tell you that Thibs is not exactly the type of coach who likes tinkering. He will ride or die with what he knows has worked in the past, for better or worse. This old school approach and lack of flexibility are why his teams will never win a championship.
It's strange for real
I thought about that too but I watched the team closely and there were too many plays when Kemba just didn't seem to play defense. His efforts would be half-hearted and other PGs would light him up. Also, Kemba is a NY guy and a league veteran so I don't know how well he took to Thibs yelling and screaming (just my opinion). So finally Thibs had enough and he's the kind of coach where once you're in the doghouse, it's almost impossible to get out. Belichick is a lot like this and I know they're good friends.
Fundamentals of space needs to be taught more. If one man leaves a space, another needs to fill...replace the previous player.
Not a Kemba fan, but you gotta love his professionalism and respect towards Coach Thibs.
He really does! Hes not whining about it either
Kemba benefitted from Theis’ seal in Boston when he played there and that’s what Thibs should look at. They gotta open up lanes by sealing the opposing center/power forwards.
How? You have centers who never stray away from the post. Same reason randle struggling...Randle been struggling for 2 years lol. Also lack of high assist PG , we haven't had a PG avg 8 assist since RAYMOND FELTON...i'll say it again RAYMOND f'in FELTON LOL
@@wilmaso You know how the knicks roll, get more PFs!
@@wilmaso yeah that's what happens when your bigman is ball hogging.
Thibs did the same thing with Austin Rivers last year. I thought that that they would've benefited if they played Rivers last year since they needed scoring from the guard position so badly
yeah man wtf was that. he benched rivers and started payton
Great video. I thought I was the only one who saw this. People get paid thousands of dollars to try and figure out what is going on with the team. The biggest problem with me was Randle especially after what happen in the playoffs. He is killing the team not Kemba. U need the right group of people together to make them a complete team.
As a Cavs fan when we played the knicks I seen 2 troubling things from their best player randle, his body language and his complaining. When your best player has bad body language that can rub off on the rest of the team.
Saw this even last year when Randle had his breakout year. Body language is consistently bad
Gotta appreciate how detailed and objective Coach’s takes are
Ever since the knicks benched kemba I've been waiting to see your breakdown of the situation...great job as always coach
Love how Randle and Thibs always talk about effort but give the least of it
Ikr
BBallBreakdDown: Analyzes basketball looking at different line ups and examines other players on the team.
ESPN: "Kemba is sabotaging the team and doesn't want it bad enough."
This is why I love this channel.
Randle is a Carmelo-wannabe with a below average shot. Players like him are most effective as primary scorers in second units or secondary scorers with a first unit.
lol more like Josh Smith than Melo
Kemba is experiencing what IT had been through in his career.
Nah, Kemba is a better Playmaker than IT
I got a picture with Kemba. HE can't be more than 5' 11".
I met him at a basketball camp when I was in middle school right after he got drafted and I was shocked to see how short he was when I dapped him up. I was an inch or two taller than him.
Yes they did and I don't care what anyone says. Kemba wasn't the problem, yes he can't play defense but you didn't bring him here for that. Come playoff time he would've turned up and they will miss his offense.
If he can come into the playoffs and produce without impacting the team flow then yes he should get 10-20mins per game.
Biggest problem last playoffs is they couldn’t get quick buckets. Kemba for better or worse is the best quick bucket guy they have.
Did you forget what Kemba did in playoffs for Boston Celtics??? Remember that Miami series??? Kemba got played out of the floor. Too small to guard, he was defensive liability and he couldn’t buy making a bucket or shooting. That was the reason BOS decided to cut him. Stop making Kemba the victim. He’s not the same player when he was at Hornets and he hasn’t proved ANYTHING that he is elite in the playoffs. I easily say Isiah Thomas (pre-injury) was a much better player in the playoffs then Kemba was as in the playoffs.
Can we have a discussion about thibs being overrated
Ikr he’s still riding the credit for the bulls rose era which none of the credit belongs to him in fact he actually rand the team into the ground which is counter productive with conditioning because proper rest is a part of it. He might just take the #1 spot ahead of fizdale as the biggest fraud in nba history
@@Atman457
#1 would be doc rivers
...or luke walton
@@b.lukito6063 rivers is not a bad coach and most don’t consider him the best in the league.
Spurs Coach is overrated
As a Bulls fan who watched him for 5 years, he is not overrated at all. His teams consistently outperformed their talent level when he was allowed control over the roster. Kemba isn't a Thibs guy and his signing just felt like fan service for a dissapointing offseason.
It wasn’t long ago Kemba was torching the Hornets when they played each other then next thing I know he was stuck in the bench 🤦♂️
Even if Dame move to the Knicks, he would be like Kemba if the Knicks keep doing what they’re doing right now
Randle is a dread to watch.
When the Knicks began 5-1 everyone was thinking playoffs. Now I’m hearing tank talk and whether Kemba was done wrong. What about the coaching? Where’s the defense?
So glad to see this man i drafted Kemba in fantasy and i watch a lot of their games and i noticed all this stuff with the Knicks team I was feeling bad for Kemba all season and annoyed with the coaching
Thibs teams seem to always have trouble closing. Any offensive momentum gets halted if they lead in 4th as they stop playing to win & start playing not to lose. Feels like it’s been this way even when he coached the Bulls
Here's the Knicks lineup: IQ, RJ, Burks, Randle and Meech and the "Shock Troops" (2nd unit): D-Rose, Fournier, Grimes, Obi and Noel.
I don’t know-Thibs IS a good coach…but god-sometimes he makes silly/dumb decisions.
As a Chicago fan-I know this all too well 😑😑
Kemba’s offense (IMO) makes up for his size.
he’s a good coach not a great coach and that’s why my Knicks were doomed the minute they signed Thibodeau
He’s good defensively but he can’t do shit offensively which is why I didn’t really want him at first. I’m glad for what he did but he’s also part of the problem.
booker hits that shot over every guard in the nba due to the way he arcs when he releases
Facts. He also has a quick release.
Coach Nick, thanks for doing this one. Helping one pass away has hurt us big time. If the guards could deny penetration that would help alleviate our problem. Plus, RJ needs to get back to his natural position at the SG spot is another.
Thanks for watching! And even if you get beat, there are a lot of times where the guy helping 1 pass away doesn’t need to because weakside rotation is there
@@bballbreakdown Do you mean Meech or Noel? If they come help, then some one would have to cover their man under the basket. Is that called sink and fill?
@@bballbreakdown Hey Coach Nick are the Knicks better when Obi is on the court?
@4:00 lol I thought this was a setup for calm but no BOSLEY
Unless he was hurt , you don't forget how to play the game you love, especially in your coming back home
this is just another example of coachNick dropping the best bball content on yt !!'
... and I am sure he had, and still has, a serious influence in the overall global ball-smoothness. wouldn't you agree?, anyways: I'm in. sport fans. get it?'
Hopefully Knicks watch this before trading for Myles Turner
The Knicks don't deserve kemba walker. This is not his fault the struggles the Knicks have...
That Bosley insert was legendary 🐐
Nah, we just signed the wrong guys...........Kemba AND Fournier experiment about to come to an end
Great video. Very interesting take.
Wow. Best basketball analysis ive seen this month
Thanks!! 🙏🏀
I love this new fan. The @Nyknicks need to see this immediately
5:19 I don't recall this play exactly, but if Randle's 1 foul away from being in foul trouble, he tends to let those go, like many other players would.
Last time I was this early, Coach K was droppin dimes.
😂😂😂😂
If I'm not mistaken coach, didn't Thibodeau run a similar defense scheme with the Bulls some years back and blame Lavine's "lack of effort" for their defensive woes?
He shouldn't be a head coach in my opinion.
No, you're thinking of Jim Boylen
Thibodeau is the guy that ruined Derrick Rose's knee by playing him into the ground every night for 3 seasons straight
I don’t think Thibs coached the Lavine bulls
@@Joshua-dl3ns I think the Lavine Timberwolves
The real problem is that Fournier guy, they need to start a defensive guard to pair with kemba
Yes! 👍🏾
After a fluke season. Randle now thinks he is Melo. Sheeeesh
I don't think that height argument is still valid tbh. He's the same height as Cp3 who's still an elite defender at 36, Vanvleet, Conley, Lowry.
Thank you!!! I was about to post the same thing!!!
I don’t see many articles questioning Thibodeau.
Thank you for watching the tape and seeing what all Knicks fans have been seeing. Randle has been dragging this team down.
Julius “one-season-wonder” Randle
Sadly, accurate. Look at his body language. I think they are running an offense Randle doesn't want to run.
I think Knicks made a terrible mistake
Damn, at this rate maybe the Knicks should go back to tanking again. Get a great draft pick that can lead to a franchise player because Randle is just not the guy this year.
The Knicks don:t tank. They're just bad and poorly run.
Randle is one dimensional , nothing but left hand and thats it cannot view the game doesn't have playmaking at all for a franchise player this is horrendous, so is rj Barrett. Imo kemba should be out there and given a chance, he can't be good right away, he needs time.
9:25 He made em last year consistently
all I’m going to say, The raptors game, Kemba isn’t missing that 3 that Randle missed to cost the game. Thibs lost my respect for singling Kemba out when the forest is burning and Randle and Fournier are the flames..
IMO: they should replace Randle.
His iso aren't effective, they're just flashy.
Kemba is the poor man's Dame. A combo guard that can go off offensively at any given night, but is always a defensive liability, does not facilitate the offense well enough and is very ball heavy. Somewhat, like how Russ runs an offense, his 1st option is to get a bucket, if that is not possible in any way, that's when he passes. Harden has always been like this too.
I don't think Terry Stots or Thibs know how to play 2020's basketball. Kemba could be a PG for a chip level team, but no space to operate in picks and no elite wing to switch his match ups defensively doesn't play in Kemba's favor, thus letting him out to dry on National TV.
6:15 this is why i always thought the knicks D was sus... even last year. im pretty sure that even last season, the knicks were giving away lots of open looks, but other teams just werent hitting for some reason... and since it was happening all season, people thought the knicks D was ok. but on a long enough timeline, if you keep giving up those kinds of looks, other teams are gonna start cashing in. fck this team... i dont know why i keep rooting for them.
and dont even get me started on randle... ive been saying since the ATL series... he didnt have the yips... he flat out got exposed... but other knick fans for some reason just kept refusing to believe what was plainly obvious.
Randle is the problem not kemba he wants to be a point foward no self respecting point guard will allow this hence kemba was benched.
I've never understood how he gets coaching gigs, he has fucked up the chemistry of every team he has been on within 2 years.
I don’t understand how some guy on TH-cam can see and communicate this clear as day, but the highly paid professionals in the front office seem to just make random decisions like kemba is completely out if the rotation.
Coach Nick is the GOAT of in-video advertising segues! 🐐
Even after they benched kemba, they still losing🤷🏻🤷🏻🤷🏻
Great job- you should send this to the Knicks coaching staff. The Knicks are NOT okay. Randle had a good year last year but there were lots of holes in his game. He was near the bottom in scoring in last-minute possessions and was completely exposed in the playoffs. What did that mean? That he wasn't a TRUE 1st (or even second option) on a contending team. The Knicks lucked out on Kemba because OKC didn't want him and Fournier was never known for his defense. The Knicks made a HUGE mistake letting Reggie Bullock walk when we could have gotten him for a lot cheaper. I also noticed that the Knicks don't look for Robinson nearly as much as they did last year. Seems like everyone is interested in jacking 3s and padding their stats versus playing for each other like they did last year.
On another note, I still don't know how Tibbs and Doc Rivers keep getting coaching jobs.
Love how u break it down
🙏🏀🙏
You can’t bench the whole team, and you’re not going to cut minutes for your All Star forward. Kemba was a new arrival this year, so he’s an easy scapegoat.
Free Kemba
A good coach makes use of what he has. Thibbs doesn’t.
4:05 love the transition from content to ad😂
big respect to kemba being 100% pro! gonna find a place at another team to play his role...
Lmao my man slipped in that Bosley commercial way too smooth 😂😂
Good vid!
totally classless way to handle Kemba Walker's situation, including the permanent benching.
Walker deserves more respect and fails deserving his genius of a coach announcing the benching to the world. There are ways to reduce playing time other than the "Tibbs method".
As to Randle, this is just bad bad coaching. It was neither Walker or Randle, but "the coach". It became apparent in the playoffs last year that Knicks coaching staff is clueless on the O side and this year that they are clueless on the D side as well.
I feel Kemba has always been overrated (not a max player IMO) but he definitely belongs in any team rotation. I think the problem is the Knicks overall and rightfully called out Randle. If your number one option is Randle, you are doomed. He's good don't get me wrong, but on a team that wants to contend, Randle should *at most* be your number two guy. He's too inefficient offensively and outside of 1:1 defense, I think he is not a very good defender.
Lack of good P&R ball handler has been the biggest problem for Knicks since they ever had Jason Kidd& Felton on 12-13 season.
Last season Knicks is the only playoff team without franchise ball handler. If these's a one, usually Rose is limited to play at 25 mins.
Although Jokic& Giannis are much better, they still have Murray or Holiday.
Randle play bad so far, lack a good ball handler makes it looks even worse on him.
Last season Hawks showed how to defense him and it's still workable.
If Knicks make move on him I won't surprise, Pacers has clicked the first button.
Knicks have too many guards is another problem, Bullock and Payton out, Fournier and Walker in, plus they draft 2 guards this season, in this big wings era, it have to pay the price. Lack of play time is hard to raise the value for players.
Thank you for giving justice to Kemba, once again NYK are heading to a destination disaster. That organisation broken so many careers.
Kemba to the Lakers??
They really need to start rose and taj. Keep rose's minutes to under 30. But you need the vet mentality to control the game. Kemba leading the 2nd unit should be fine
Trae took the Knicks soul lol
There's nothing wrong about kemba. Its on the management, you always rely on randle in many possessions.
And you think burks is a legit point guard instead quickey//rose? Cmon.
I saw this coming since before the season began.
Knicks had success as a young team without a true star - although Randle has been stepping up big as a Knick.
Kemba is an aging scorer, not known for distributing the ball. Tibbs is a defence first guy, and Kemba doesn't give a lot on that end. Kemba is slowing down while the rest of the Knicks are picking up pace. He's not a good enough scorer to make up for that in a league with so many great scorers.
I simply never saw the fit.
It just seems weird that he benched Kemba exclusively when the whole starting lineup was struggling, a guy like Fournier is a huge negative on defense, maybe more than Kemba, and brings less on offense. The reality is, Thibs is way too extremist of a coach, that ruined his tenure in Chicago and the same is happening now in NYC, he will never be a championship coach
Agree, i haven't seen Doc Rivers or Popovic behave like that. Chemistry after that goes south, that hits others too as they can be in same spot as Kemba is now..
Technically he is already a championship coach lol. He just doesn’t need to be a head coach.
This is why I open up TH-cam.
Such an amazing breakdown thank you coach
🙏🏀🙏
I think Randell had kemba benched cause kemba was looking him off a lot. Why. Well maybe all the bad shots.low basketball IQ. Or him jumping in the air passing the ball
Jesus, You saw that too, huh?
@@buzzerbeater3350 yes I did.lol