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The US rule requiring care tags was introduced in 1971, though Levi's had begun include care information on some garments prior to this Levi's printed on pocket bags until around 1973 when they were replaced with tags. The pocket bag information can still be read in the same manner as the tag information.
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This is hands down the most helpful video on TH-cam for dating Levis. I knew about the 4 digit codes but recently came into a pair that was three digit and have been stumped/searching hard to understand the tag. The batwing timeline info helped tremendously help date this damn pair, thank you!!!!
Very happy we could help! Thanks for watching!
It's like having a box load of dimonds not in A safe.
In NYC People would knowingly snatch a pair of obviously bogus one right from a street vendor...
Lol this is the only video I have seen so many times but find myself watching everytime I find a new pair of vintage Levi’s! You rock man !
Haha, honored! Thanks for watching!!
the numbers in the tag are the date they were manufactured
It’s been really helpful.
Ok, I have been wearing 501s for over 50 years and have a huge collection of vintage Levi's. All this time I have been dating Levi's by the waist tag and jeans features. With a quick look I can tell you about when a pair of 501s was made, but I couldn't be sure of the exact year until now. This was a very informative video and I liked that Mr. LootFam presents the information quickly.
I respect you for that sir
Do you want to sell any? haha
Any 501 size 28 or 29 you would like to part with? 😅
@@madeyasee Sorry, but all my 501s are around 36x32 or 36x34 for cuffing. Even when I started wearing 501s as a boy in the late 1960s I had a 32 inch waist. 28 is a really small size.
I would love to see (and potentially purchase a couple pieces of) your collection! Let me know if you would be interested! Cheers
We have 2 pairs of vintage jeans possibly from 1977. Can you help us with this?
Would love too! Email pictures to lootfam1@gmail.com . Thanks!!
Does this information also apply to Levi's shorts?
Yes!
What about jacket care tags?
Generally, they are the same. Though there are some that may have extra information you'd need to sort through. If you have a specific tag you need help on you're welcome to email me some photos to lootfam1@gmail.com. Thanks!
@@LootFam Thanks, I may do that. Mine has the 3% shrinkage tag but I can't tell if it's big E or not because the tag just has the ® symbol.
Hi! I got a vintage Levi's 544 yesterday at thrift store. I'm kind of confused what year it is. Could you please look at my white tag and help me what year it is? Could I send you an email?
Sure can! Lootfam1@gmail.com
Hi. I think I have late 80s-90s gray acid wash 550s I picked up yesterday. Sadly the front of the red bat wing isn't in good shape to tell a size and the back patch is missing as well.
It does have a black Levi's pocket tag (Were those only used for specific years or models?)
The inside stamp of the button says 575.
The numbers on the inside are:
2008 S10
575 021 78860-5
40550 4158
Any idea of a specific year from this information?
Thanks!
Looks like the date code is 021 giving us 1991. The black tab was used for a variety of stuff but it is common on acid wash levis from this time period. Acid wash was pretty new at this time and Levi's likely made it a some what separate product line. Thanks!
@@LootFam thank you so much. As always, I appreciate your help. I pass along your channel anytime anyone in my FB reselling groups ask about Levi's.
@@kelseymorris8491 Really appreciate it!
Terrible explanation. Had to go through 3 videos to find this, and terrible explained it with terrible examples. Dislike
what if the tab says
575 099 74796•4
205517 0217
(why is there a 099 ?) please help me out thanks
The 099 is the date code. In this case it would read September (09) 1989(9).
Levi's Pokemon t-shirt like the one I have... exactly the same... cool
Would be so much more helpful without the background music!! Very hard to hear/concentrate
hey Josh.. so I have a pair that is 701S - on the back of the front button is is 112 - it's Made in Hong Kong with a black batwing tag... the back pocket is cut like the bat wing too. I think they might be vintage but the inner fabric waist band is throwing me off - a large inked print in black reads Levi's - it's on a striped inner waist band... whew. Any thoughts... btw I've seen your video like 10 times and it's always helpful. I'd love your thoughts if it's appropriate to ask. TY!!
I knew most of this information already.... From horribly searching the web, asking questions in Facebook groups and sheer deduction. How I wished I had just seen this video instead! Good job with it. It's not perfect, because no video could ever be. You are spot on with the no absolutes in Levi's comment. So very true. But this is great and I'll definitely recommend this the next time I get asked about dating vintage Levis!
Thanks Ryan!
What about the old Levi's tag that says this
W29 l30
11522 052
501 -000
042586
501 c
33 057
Would you be able to send me a photo of these? Lootfam1@gmail.com
But it looks like your only reading the one tag...i have a diff tag with more and diff digits😳😳
Check the link in the description. The video has been updated to include for more examples. Thanks!
Was the white tag replaced by the red tag in 1987 for the jackets as well as the jeans? I've got a flannel-lined Type 3 jacket with the (very faded!) white tag...
Generally, yes. Though my experience is that the jackets took long to phase into the new tags.
@@LootFam Thanks, buddy! Nice to know I'm rocking a flannel-lined Levi's jacket that's circa-35-years-old - and it's super comfortable!
Corduroy Levi action made in USA brown label what year
Generally these are found from the late 70s to early 80s.
I have a levis orange tab 506 that has a three date number 059, what month and year is this?
May 1989
I am going crazy with these pants. They are from 75 to 85. Orange tab. But can not find factory 32. Maybe they are knockoffs??
Probably not. If you want you can send me some photos to lootfam1@gmail.com. I’ll do what i can!
@@LootFam thanks! I did
Need some help guys I found a blue tab uppercase E Levi’s corduroys and I just can’t figure out what time era there from or what they are worth they don’t exist online!
Send some pics to lootfam1@gmail.com and I'll take a look.
@@LootFam just sent some over thanks so much
Dude, you look a bit like Sal Vulcano
Definitely heard that before haha.
I have come across a shit ton of brand new vintage Levi’s where can I get rid of them
Check out Webuyoldjeans.com
They got the cash to make big buys and offer fair pricing.
i’ve got a pair of levi’s with black batwing logo with date code -042. does this mean they were april 92’ seen as the black batwing code didn’t exist until 1991?
Got some orange tabs today with a small white tag, and it’s super faded but I believe it says ‘82!
I was expecting to receive someinfo on all the number from the labels, to see which 4group of numbers is the date..
fantastic! am a vintage denim reseller/collector and have always found it tricky to date Levis from the 70s/80s - wondering if you have an IG so I can link to credit you for this v helpful info!
Thank so much! @the_vint_age
@@LootFam DM'd ya!
I have a pair of 505s with the pocket bag tag, but its a red batwing logo on the tag. Help? Lol
Bro i have a black tabs and the color of the letters levis was gold and then back of buttom was 687 what can you say about that bro
Where can I sell my vintage Levi’s ? 😊
Ebay can be a good place. But i’m always buying too haha! Lootfam1@gmail.com
i went thru ALL my levis , about 14 pairs . theyre all junk , made in factories for 2.50 an hour . 1 pair made in australia i like . only because thats where i live .
I have 2 pairs of vintage Levis but I have no idea what all the numbers on the tag means…
Will it be different for a jean jacket?
In some cases, but generally the rules apply the same.
Wake me up when you start talking about vintage tees 😅 I kid I kid
Working on it! Probably gonna do a dive into some of the bigger vintage tee brands like giant, liquid blue, and mosquitohead.
I have a few pairs of Levi's 646 Corduroy Bell Bottoms that I was able to date to the mid 70s because of this. Lootfam, let me know if you need a better image of the Small Paper tag because one of my pairs has very clear text.
Did you email me pictures? I get lots of emails so maybe I missed it. Lootfam1@gmail.com
Thank you so much! Everyone focuses on Made in the USA to determine vintage it seems like. I could tell just by looking at the care tag it was old enough to be vintage, just one tag, the rougher material it was made out of, the poor print. I'm so glad I found your excellent explanation of these tags!! Liked, and Subscribed!
You are so welcome!
I've still got a pair of 501s and 618s I had in the 80s.
They're made in the UK though so the tags are not the same as the ones shown in here.
There's only 1 tag anywhere inside each pair and they're longer than the ones shown here. One side has the care instructions and the other has the numbers.
They just don't correspond the way they do on here.
The 618s number side at top says
W 30 L32 618 0285.
Bingo! February '85.
That works, I've cracked it!
Doesn't follow with the 501s though.
They'd be 0314.
March 2014.
That simply cant be possible so I'm still struggling! 🤦🏼
Yo! Shoot me some photos to my email and I'll take a look! lootfam1@gmail.com
BTW, I love Crass.
Just picked up a 27 year old pair of orange tab Levi’s thanks to your videos!
Do you have an article with pictures? This was helpful, but I am still not able to figure out which numbers on my tags are important besides the style code and factory code. I really need the date code but can't find it!
I'm sorry, I don't currently. But If you'd like you can send me some photos to lootfam1@gmail.com and I'd love to help you find it! Thanks!
@@LootFam thanks for the reply! I emailed you:)
Great informative video! I have a pair of flare leg women's jeans w no back pockets, red tag inside says "Guess ? Jeans" Made in Brazil. Help?!?
Could you send a photo to lootfam1@gmail.com? I’ll take a look.
Your videos have been so helpful for me dating other Levi’s items, but I am stumped on a recent pair I picked up. They are a black pair of 550s with a black tab with white lettering. The care tag has the red batwing, but none of the numbers make sense for a date code 🤷🏼♀️
Shoot me some photos at lootfam1@gmail.com. I’ll take a look.
When did they start making how to shrink instructions and sewing it inside the waistband
Nice, helped me date my pair of selvage 1978 501’s
Awesome!
Levi’s
I just realized I have a pair of 684 big bellbottoms with the red batwing tag. I can't believe they were still producing those in the latter half of the 80's into the 90's.
Oh wow! Would you mind sharing some photos to Lootfam1@gmail.com? I’ve heard of but never seen big bells from the late 80s.
Does anyone have any info about the 569 model specifically? I am searching for a true loose, straight fit and I've been hearing that the earlier versions are better quality than the modern versions. However, I have yet to find any details regarding when this model was first introduced and how it varies based on where it was manufactured.
If anyone could help me out I would be extremely greatful!!!
Great video by the way! Very helpful.
I believe the 569 was a product of the late 90s. At the least, that is oldest I’ve ever found them. I’d agree the earlier versions are better. I actually have some dead stock right now from the late 90s-y2k era. Lootfam1@gmail.com if you’re interested.
I have 511 silvertab denim shorts but the care tag is all in spanish????
Could send me some pictures to lootfam1@gmail.com and i’s love to take a look. Thanks for watching!
this video is crucial. I’m still confused about my favorite 501s in my closet. They have the small white paper tag...I’ll shoot you an email:)
Please do! Would love to take a look!
You talked about the meaning of 0217 I. The video, do you know what 0215 means?
Unfortunately, no. It had to do with the wash and material, but there isn’t a comprehensive list of the codes… Yet. Currently, i’m working on putting one together. I just haven’t sorted that one out yet.
just found a pair of orange tag, Canadian made Levi's and I'm confused on the style I believe they are 506. Does this make sense? 😂
I believe they are from 2002? I'm very stumped on these, if anyone can help
@@lianefougere9965 It's unlikely they are from 2002 as the orange tab lined ended in 1999. Send me some photos to lootfam1@gmail.com. Canadian made tags are notoriously confusing to read, but I may be able to piece it together and at least get you close. Thanks for watching!
I have been watching this over and over to learn, thank you! Great vid
Glad it was helpful!
I have a pair of 517 jeans with a small e orange tag. It has an applied canvas type material. Like chaps
They are new with square 517 label. There is no wash instructions label. Can't seem to find any images of them.
Hmm. Would you mind sending me some photos to my email lootfam1@gmail.com? I'd love to take a look. Sounds interesting.
Hey I’m looking at two pairs of American made orange tab 560s. Both are made in 95, although one has a red batwing tag and one has a black. Would you know if there’s a difference?
The Red Bat Wing logo was discontinued in the 501 around 1993, but the orange tab line used it along side the black bat wing without any real distinction. They are, for all intents and purposes, the same. Thanks for watching!
What exactly do you call the style of that beard???
The date codes confuse me so much. I have watched so many videos but I can’t tell if my orange tab is vintage or from recent, can you help?
Sure, email me some photos to lootfam1@gmail.com. The good news is that if it's orange tab there is a 99.99999 precent chances it's vintage as the orange tab line end in 1999. There was a very small release in like 2018 or something but it was very small.
I have a pair of black 550 with the red batwing logo tag, date appears to be 0198. Only worn less than 10 times, once or twice in the last 10 years. Made in Mexico.
Are they orange tabs? The red batwing can be found on some orange tabs and a few other random pairs in the late 90s. Though, you won't likely find the same on any pair of 501s.
Been binging all your levis vids the past week! This one came just in time lets goo
Good news!
If the small white tag was intruded in 1967 how do you know the pair with date code 10 7 is from 1977 and not 1967…. Because of whether e is big or small on tab?
Correct. Any levis produced in 1967 would have a Big E in the spell out of Levis on the red tab.
Very informative, I prefer the late 1980s 501 levis, better quality. Could someone tell me what the numbers 0115, 0118 , 0193 and 0134 on the tags mean ?
The four digits opposite of the lot number is the material or color code of the wash of the jeans. A comprehensive list doesn’t exist as far as i know. I’m planning on putting one together soon.
Lol. I, too have watched this many times. A Question for you. I have, I think, an early 1980s pair of 501s. They have 501 0000 on the back label. What does that mean? I really appreciate the work you do.
That would be the denim wash code denoting the material used. I can't recall off hand what 0000 was used for during that period, but some photos might helpful. If you'd like you can email me some at lootfam1@gmail.com. Thanks for watching and glad to have you here!
Ok. So I found a pair of 900 series, red batwing tag, made in Mexico. The made in Mexico part confuses me. Are they vintage?
Yes, Levi’s began moving production out of us in the 80s for select products. I’d guess those are mid 90s. Thanks for watching!
I have a Levi’s skirt with the paper care tag with the sizing on the back, think you could help me read the dating code? 🙇🏻♀️
Sure! Email me pics at lootfam1@gmail.com
I just found a pair of Levi’s double knees at the thrift, the date code is 1198 but i can’t find anything else about them, there red tag with the small e they don’t have the brown patch in the back and they have a patch about one inch my one and a half inches that says “levi Strauss & co. Manufacturers of two-horse brand overalls and denim work clothing” I can’t find any information about them, I’d like some help
Sure! Can you send me some photos to lootfam1@gmail.com? I’d love to take a look
@@LootFam I sent an email earlier today
I have a pair of Levi's and they don't have what number they are I saw a video where you talked about the black tags and they have some foreign writing Will they have a PC 9 number but I called Levi's and they said they don't know just wondering if you could help if I gave you the PC 9 or tell me how I could identify him their women's jeans I think
Are you sure Levi’s started making black batwing tags in 91’? I’m almost positive I found a pair from 90’.
It's quite possible there were some in 1990. Like with all Levi's "rules" they can be a little fuzzy.
@@LootFam sounds good! Thanks!
Did Levi's every make a metal tab?
Anything on kids Little Levi’s? I’m a bit stumped on a pair I have.
Unfortunately, the Little Levis sometimes follow completely different rules haha. If you'd like you can email me pictures of the pair in question. Lootfam1@gmail.com
Hi man, can I send you a pic of the care tag on my jeans? I am a bit confused with it..
thanks
Sure can! Lootfam1@gmail.com
Can you show the labels
Please check the link in the description for the updated video. Thanks!
@@LootFam thank you
Hi, love the channel. Can you do a video for vintage blanket 101? Thanks
What if a pair with red batwing says 090? Is that September 1990?
Correct!
Thanks for this. Unfortuantely, I actually wore my 501's so the care tag is almost unreadable. I think I bought them around 1980 or before and they have been worn, washed and repaired so much that finally they came out of the washing machine the other day, obviously unrepairable. It is a testament to the quality that none of the stitching or rivets ever came undone, or pulled away. It was just the material itself that got so thin on the butt and knees that there was just nothing to hold onto to sew them up again. I know people like to buy hardly-worn vintage, but I think I must be one of the few who actually bought them new and literally wore them to death. It took over 30 years. Can you get emotionally attached to an item of clothing? Yup! It's also nice to know that at the age of 63 I still wear that same size 38 long. I looked on the back of the top button and it seems to have stamped a G (or maybe a 6) at the top, a 0 to the right bottom, and a 6 (or is it an 8?) to the left bottom. What does this mean? I bought them in Greece by the way. The parts of the care tag I can read are G50 078801/5.
So , when the first digit of the production code is the month, how come that mine says 1121? Since we don't have November yet, it can only mean the week of the year,right? So couldn't it be that all the tags have not the month code of a certain year, they have the week code of a certain year?
Are you referring to a modern pair of levis? If so, many production changes have been made in the last 20 years so unfortunately this method can only be reliably used for vintage jeans.
Levis production reps confirmed to me the month/ year dating system but it was for jeans made prior to 2002ish. They still dated jeans after that but i have not confirmed all the details.
Thanks for watching! If you have pictures of the tag you are referring to i’d love to see it. You can email me at lootfam1@gmail.com
Thank you! Great video
I have a pair of Levi’s 560s which seem pretty old. There’s no interior tag whatsoever, I can’t find any kind of wash instructions either. Does have a red little e tab. Excellent condition. They feel like they were dry cleaned and then never worn, lol. Any advice is appreciated
The 560 was born in the mid-late 80s. So it’s not likely any older that that. Became rather popular through the 90’s. I’d say it’s likely from the 90s. The tags were likely cut out as they started sticking them on the waist band and people didn’t care for that being that they were more stiff than modern tags. Cool find! Thanks for sharing!
@@LootFam thanks for the info! I could find production ranges for just about every pair other than the 560s LOL it was so frustrating
How come I have small e 646s with washing instructions on the pocket bag?
Hey Elizabeth! See the correction in the description. I misspoke, and care tags were fully implemented by 1973. So there are a couple years where this could be the case. Thanks for watching!
@@LootFam Awesome thanks a bunch! I was confused on why my big E 684 big bells have a paper care tag but the 646s don’t. Good to know there was a period where they used both!
Great information! I almost discarded 30 year old jeans!
Glad you were able to save them!
When i die bury me with this video in the pocket of my 501’s
Will do! Thanks for watching!
thanks for the tip !
ooo thanks so much for making this video! sure did help alot!!
Is there a way to tell if a pair of used 501s were shrink to fit?
The four digits following the lot number is the wash code(501-xxxx). Some of the most common STF wash codes are: 0000 and 0117. Thanks for watching!
Hey! Love your videos! I found a pair of 20505 0217s Orange Tab and I'm having trouble dating them. They have an 8 stamped in the button (in other videos you mentioned this was like that till around 1981) and the tag is not very visible. It ooks just like the one you show at 5:31. Thanks in advance!
Awesome! If you'd like please send me some photos to lootfam1@gmail.com and I'd love to take a look!
@@LootFam Great! Just sent them :)
Sweet just got some 1981 bell bottoms
Awesome!
Question: would the date code of 050 mean may of 1990 or may of 1980? There is a black batwing so I’m thinking 1990 after watching this video
Correct! There would be no branding on a tag from 1980. Thank for watching!
@@LootFam this was very helpful when I’m hunting for these in the wild. Thank you
@@LootFam got another question for you: got another pair of orange tabs with a small care tag with not a lot of real estate in the inner left pocket. No branding so before 1987. The numbers I have are 8 (I’m assuming august) 6 and 575 (factory number?). I’m trying to figure out if it is 1986 or 1976. I’m leaning more in the 1976 era but I’m not 100% sure
@@victorlugo3718 i’d guess 76-78. Could you send me a picture to lootfam1@gmail.com?
This has been super helpful but I am still struggling a bit with a pair of red levis made in Canada. Still a paper tag, black no batwing. 1/5 is on the tag beside the factory code (212). Would that mean these are from the 70s theoretically?
1971 Care Labeling Rule. 67 is a little early
You are correct. 67 is around when Levi’s added care instructions via stamps on their garments. I misspoke. The correction is in the description. Thanks for watching!
Super helpful dude! Thanks
Glad it helped! Thanks for watching!
I think Levis have slowly been going up in price in the past few years but I feel like Levis are gonna keep going up in price.
I agree! With the push for sustainable clothing used and vintage clothing should grow with it.
I got a pair of 1969 Levis 606 big e orange tab. Still in a deep indigo color. Could I email you some pictures to see what you think.
@@sylasmalone6126 please do! I would love to check them out! Lootfam1@gmail.com
Ok I sent the pictures let me know if it didn't work, and I can resend. I appreciate your help.
Going 😂up..i remember a pair of 501 Levis costs no more then 39$ in the 1990s in the USA..where in Germany it was 79 Deutschmarks..today in Europe they 79€ retail..🤔🇺🇸🇩🇪
What if mine don’t have any of those tags?
Does it have a different tag or no tags?
So dam useful
Thank you so much for doing this. It helped me to date a pair of jeans with the red Bat wing logo (86’ - mid 90s) and I only paid $1 at a garage sale. 🤣
I recently came across a button down collared Levi’s men’s shirt and the inside tag is navy blue with white lettering. Do you discuss the inner logo tag in any of your other videos? Or can you tell me anything about this particular shirt logo?
I look forward to watching
More of your videos! Thank you again!
Hmm. If you want you can send me some photos of the shirt to lootfam1@gmail.com. I don't really talk much about Levi's shirts, but perhaps I'll prepare something for the future. Thanks for watching!
I have a question, I found a pair of 20517 0217 orange tabs, made in the USA on the back patch, and unlike what you've shown in the video, which was a more paper type tag, this pairs care tag (it's the bigger, no branding, mid 80s type care tag) was made of the same material as the back patch. I was wondering if you knew if levis did that? and if theres a number to date them precisely like newer care tags have? I can't seem to make out a year from the numbers on it.
Would you mind sending me some pictures of the jeans to lootfam1@gmail.com?
I would really like to see these jeans. Thanks for watching!
@@LootFam email sent!
I am curious as to what ever came about these mystery Levi’s ..?
@@lindseygarland9299 This is what he said: "These are from 1987 (4/7), right around the transition to the new tagging system. I wonder if the factory ran out of the normal material for tags and decided to use something else instead. That is not unheard of in the world of levis."
How do you read a proto tag? Got some mint polyesters
Can you send me some photos of the promo tags in question? Some contain helpful information. Some don't haha.
lootfam1@gmail.com
Informative. Helpful. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Very helpful!
Omg. Please see my comment. I recently purchased a pair of vintage 501. A great price, too. I just looked at the white tag to sit down and decode it (I just got them a couple days ago). It's the smaller white tag. On the back on the second to last line where I know is the date it has printed
"11 0 6"
I know that the 6 is the location because it is mirrored on the top fly button back side. Am I right that these are 11/1980!? I am in love. The tag is sewn on the same line as pocket bag not under the bag like some and it's definitely the small version of the white tag. I'm blown away. AND THEY FIT !!!
Omg wait, could it be 11/1970!?! Ummm 😱
Also, on your "10 7" jeans, couldn't they be either '67 or '77 because white tag start '67?
The white tags on jeans didn't start until 1973, but wash instructions were being included on garments around 67. From 71-73 they were mostly printed on the pocket back on jeans. Send me some photos of your jeans to lootfam1@gmail.com and I'll take a look! thanks!
really helpful! ty!
good video
Thanks!