IS GODFORGE F2P FRIENDLY? | Fateless Games

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  • @FatelessGames
    @FatelessGames  หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Check out Colred here! www.youtube.com/@ColredPlaysRSL

  • @Ranlocks
    @Ranlocks หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    72 year old gamer here. What really determines what I spend on games is the price of items in the game. Too much of a game like Raid is geared to the heavy spender. I rather play a game that a lot of players spend a little money rather then a few players spending a lot of money on items that most gamers cant afford.

    • @alasala1687
      @alasala1687 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Similar here. I’ve never bought a skin in Raid, even when I like the look of them as £25-50 is crazy. However if they were £5 I probably would have bought 10 and spent £50 anyway, but no way I’m spending that on one skin. I am more likely to spend lots of small amounts than one large spend as it just feels like I get more value that way

    • @vincewatson7100
      @vincewatson7100 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Walmart vs Rodeo Drive

    • @joshm3363
      @joshm3363 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @Ranlocks well said sir! Good for you for still playing games too

  • @stanimirstanchev6354
    @stanimirstanchev6354 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    One of the better podcast episodes, in my opinion. Love Colred and loved the energy, he really managed to squeeze a lot of interesting points from Sham and HH seemingly without meaning to! :) Even Chosen was coasting for the first 45 minutes, just letting the guys jam together. Great session guys.

  • @ColredPlaysRSL
    @ColredPlaysRSL หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Hey Fateless! Thanks for inviting me onto the podcast. I really appreciate the philosophy of transparency that you've chosen to operate under. It makes me even more excited for Godforge to launch! Much thanks for Brad, Sham, and Simon for taking the time to answer my questions and making me a small part of this journey. Good luck with Godforge! I'll be rooting for you. 🫡

    • @FatelessGames
      @FatelessGames  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Great to have you on!

  • @amswain1
    @amswain1 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    15:40 Simon is 100% correct in my opinion. At least speaking for myself, I probably would not even download the game if I had to pay just to try it out.

  • @ChosenPlaysYT
    @ChosenPlaysYT หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Thanks for joining us Colred!

    • @ColredPlaysRSL
      @ColredPlaysRSL หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for the invitation! I really enjoyed our conversation. I'll be following Godforge's progress closely. Can't wait for the Beta!

  • @vohbovohborian28
    @vohbovohborian28 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As an example: Path of Exile sells stash tabs that are specialized for a specific kind of resource.
    If we had this in raid, many people would be tempted to buy it. Imagine a stash tab that could store 1000 extra Protection pieces, with specific filters on it that are relevant for that set that you can customize, I think that would be worth something.

  • @craycrayirl9492
    @craycrayirl9492 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    First time I’ve seen Colred. In a world of Raid content creators that spend like crazy and have accounts I can’t relate to, as a f2p, having a f2p creator is something I am glad to have found. I hope Godforge doesn’t have fusion/shard events every month that require playing the game day & night including running the game while sleeping. 😂

    • @Swollen_Goat
      @Swollen_Goat หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can have them every month, without it being a second job. Just look at Watcher of Realms. Fusion events are so easy in that game, it's basically just do a 1 day farm of any event going on and you get it done. 10 times easier and you can skip summoning events as there are always more frags than you need.

  • @BogdanNourescu
    @BogdanNourescu หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    For me, f2p friendly game is:
    Doesn't sell quality of life features of the game
    Doesn't have content behind paywall, like champs, especially if they are meta
    Skins are ok if they are behind paywall
    I am willing to spend to support the game if devs are friendly and the game is fun

    • @GunsmasOykot
      @GunsmasOykot หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same, that is why i dont play mobile games.

  • @amswain1
    @amswain1 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I've been waiting for this all week ever since Colred announced he'd be on here on his channel! He's the man!

  • @Dharin.
    @Dharin. หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Great to see my clan leader on the show. Fantastic collab and I'm from the UK and I would love to see Robin Hood in the game. I know there have been some Hollywood disaster movies on him, but as a legend, he lived in a time in England's history that is full of heroes and villains from paupers to kings. Get him in there with his band of Merry Men and Maid in a story driven event to get the LEGENDARY Robin Hood.

  • @mrburritoslayer
    @mrburritoslayer หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This was a good discussion, really gave me confidence and boosted my hope that this is going to be a great game.

  • @lfc-1892
    @lfc-1892 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This is truly the best fatless podcast has tons of ideas and great talking points thank you all

  • @Deosis
    @Deosis หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Appreciate Colred's insights as always and agree with most of what he's said.
    I'm also not spending because I don't agree with this type of monetisation and frankly, with the value for my money.
    I probably won't spend in Godforge either when I'll try it out, but you never know. In any case, good to see you were receptive to a lot that's been said.

  • @nathansherk5429
    @nathansherk5429 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Colred spitting facts. Another great episode, guys. Keep up the excellent work.

  • @gregevans4126
    @gregevans4126 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As a completely F2P player, I often feel bad that I don't spend $. I have played Raid for years, but have never spent one cent. Not due to any issues I have with the creators/owners. I just know that once I open the door to spending, for me it gets too easy to justify spending $5 here, $20 there and then I spent too much. I have wanted a game to have a way to monetize it so I can F2P players could do something that doesn't cost any money to the player, but help the game earn some money. I know the current main methods are either watching ads or banners. Still, if you were to have an area, not on the main screen, but an area that is easy to avoid, but offers benefits if you will watch an ad, do a survey, etc the player would get say an extra 10% xp for an hour, extra 150 gems/crystals/etc, 50 auto battles, significant extra energy to keep playing. That might be a way for the company to make $ and actually get something from the F2P players

    • @Tnargav
      @Tnargav หลายเดือนก่อน

      I disagree. I left few games that did that video watching and some surveys, instant pass. I would argue a better way of monetizing would be shifting more into mtx/qol rather than monetizing gameplay. I would say the best example of it is Path of Exile.
      Focus more on skins and/or parts of it - I really like DOTA2 approach of parts as well - and specialized storage space like in PoE. You still can have all the space in the inventory with all the filters but you can buy specific stashes for specific currency if you want.

  • @NeonSlime-hq5tr
    @NeonSlime-hq5tr หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You need a good, interactive chatbox for people to hang out in and chat. Make it so you can click their name and see their team and make it so we can challenge their team. We need a friends list. Clans with good ingame chatboxes.

  • @1965KareBear
    @1965KareBear หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    OK, Here's my take on all this. First lets say I've been a gamer since the 70's. I've always thrived on gaming got very heavy into Age of Empires, WarCraft, StarCraft, Command and Conquer. I started Raid on Sept 9th 2019 as it was the first day it was available for computers. I've never been into gaming on my phone. I'm what I call a Casual player in Raid as I do spend from time to time. I live on a fixed income and breed goats on the side and when I sell goats half the money I make goes into Raid. Brad was the first CC I found doing content for Raid along with Salt. Then slowly others joined in. Yes, I'm still play Raid daily and because I have such bad luck when pulling shards I don't have many of the OP champs and I'm still considered mid-game. I'd say late mid-game. I hate all the pop-ups. people who spend know where the shops are and will spend. I've never once spent off a pop-up only in the shop when I do spend. I've been following your journey of Fateless and the game sounds very intriguing and I look forward to trying it out. Where most people got into the Greek, Roman, and Norse Gods in there youth I got into the JAPANESE GODS. Think it would be cool to add some of them. I've signed up for the Beta and I'm so looking forward to it. Lady Valkiry.

  • @ronackley8970
    @ronackley8970 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Everyone in my raid clan is waiting for this game. I think the number one most important thing is to gain the trust of the community. If people enjoy playing your game, they’re more likely to spend money. Thats something Raid doesn’t do. As far as spending, you want to give the players value for their money whether that be in packs, season passes,monthly passes. I think you guys have assembled a great team like you said you’re gamers making a game. You all know what goes into a great game. i’m excited to see the final product.

  • @joshm3363
    @joshm3363 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I 100% agree with what colred said and i think you guys need to take his advice and listen too it. Great video as always and im still so excited for the game!!!! Woohoooobooo

  • @JohnWhalen-e6x
    @JohnWhalen-e6x หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love the idea of a world boss where not just clans but the player bass can work to take down an incredibly hard boss that nut just one clan to take on. Similar to world of warcraft where world bosses come and goes and everyone get some kind of participation reward if the boss doesn't die before times up or a great reward if the boss dies. And the reward has to be currency, and rewards need to be unique to just taking on a world boss.

    • @nathanhenry8537
      @nathanhenry8537 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Afk journey has these by server.... it's kind of like participation award cheesy

  • @tkt546
    @tkt546 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I'm not a big spender, and I still think putting the responsibility on the company to make players spend responsibly just feels wrong. They shouldn't have to keep players from spending money, but some of the predatory things they do should be eliminated.
    Using Raid as an example:
    1. Lightning deals: having a package pop-up and once you close it, you can't buy it again.
    2. False sales: having "sale" packs that are the same price or even more expensive than the normal price
    3. Dynamic pricing: having the price fluctuate based off of the players spending habits or only offering higher priced packs once a player spends.
    The dynamic pricing really annoys me in raid. I have no problem buying a few $10-25 packs when I want something, but after you buy a couple small packs in Raid, all of your packs go up in price. You no longer have the option to buy the smaller packs because all you're offered is $75-99 packs. It's literally saying, "well you bought some, so lets see how much we can make you spend because we won't give you the option to spend less."
    You can offer higher priced packs based on spending habitats but it should be in addition to the lower options, it shouldn't replace them.

    • @PeteQuad
      @PeteQuad หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      100%. Adults should adult. Perhaps that veteran enjoyed herself in the game and didn't need the money for anything else. I don't see this as the company's responsibility. What is their responsibility is to not constantly try predatory tactics to trick you into spending more than you want to, as you described.

    • @idreamofglitches8733
      @idreamofglitches8733 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes I agree and you make good points. The Dynamic pricing of raid really shocked me. I was a low spender at first, then stop spending for many months. My 'Mini Mix Pack' went down to $2.99 and some players didnt even believe me. As soon as I decided to buy another pack, the same pack went up to $10.99. Now even though the contents of the package increased, I did some actual math based on the contents per item, and the cost per item actually went up. Example 1 ancient shard in my pack for 2.99, and 2 shards in the pack for 10.99
      It was not just more items for more money. It was more expensive items that went up because I made ONE , just ONE purchase. That is just one tiny example of how greedy and misleading Raid is.

  • @jebusisnthere2580
    @jebusisnthere2580 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am in almost the exact same spot as colred, I don't spend on raid because of the egregious cost, $40 for a single shard with a 90%+ chance of getting nothing useful is purely predatory. micro transactions that are actually micro, reasonable packs that add actually value to an account not just slot rolls or leaving gameplay separate from monetisation by selling cosmetics or other parts of the game. Also something that is super important to me is transparency , having all of the information on odds , mechanics or important factors on a potential sale. Things like the mercy tracker in raid being hidden is a perfect example of a company trying to nickel and dime the player base through keeping info hidden from the players

  • @childofthefence2887
    @childofthefence2887 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Robin Hood is complicated, like most myths, because there are multiple versions of his story. In the version I grew up with, he was doing more than redistributing wealth. King John was taxing the hell out of the people, even creating a death tax (inheritance tax), while good King Richard was away on crusade... 😅 Robin Hood stole from the rich to both give to the poor, but also to put pressure on King John (which eventually led to the signing of the Magna Carta). He agreed with myself that taxation is theft!

  • @mrburritoslayer
    @mrburritoslayer หลายเดือนก่อน

    25:30 Absolutely true

  • @Jeff0608
    @Jeff0608 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I hope it f2p friendly because I'm completely f2p

  • @StanNelson-b7k
    @StanNelson-b7k หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great Discussion

  • @codysnyder3204
    @codysnyder3204 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Raid does a subscription model with their monthly pass. Their monetization sucks because when you spend the products start loosing value as shards, books, energy all become more expensive but you get less. Make an item a certain value, and leave it there. If 5 crystals is $5 then 100 crystals is $100. If 1 leggo skill book is $8 then 5 should be $40

  • @MrSneakyyGaming
    @MrSneakyyGaming 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Agree with some of the comments easily Top 3 podcast so far! Amazing to listening to Colred 🔥
    I do love sham on how discusses the mentality of profit over quality of life for the player and how its a hard balance to pursuit since morally its wrong but finacially .... Great dilemma

  • @paulscott8656
    @paulscott8656 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is why story is so important. If I care about my character(s) and their place in the story and how it all comes together then I can survive the mid-game grind!

  • @Belegurt
    @Belegurt หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    38:48 HH he couldn't take it anymore he had to say it hahahaha HH is best and what you said is very interesting, I'm already blown away GJ guys 💪💪💪

  • @Griffo2710
    @Griffo2710 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can 1000% relate to this.
    Refused to spend in raid because I felt they were slimy.
    Bait events. Taking away rewards. General sentiment towards players was low. It made me not want to support the game even though I loved parts of it.
    Always thought prices for digital goods were way overpriced.
    Looking at my pay per hour vs pixels on a screen for rewards.
    Felt I got terrible value in Australia compared to America. Was really not worth it, almost double the cost for us!
    Solutions for your payment model:
    - You need lots of smaller cost high reward value options. That ramp up the more people want to spend. Limited stock ect..
    - consider other countries and value exchange. Is there a way to make this somewhat more fair?
    - create those really great value deals for people who want to spend a little bit every now and then. (They are hard to pass up)
    - treat players well which I think you already do!

  • @ricmadden5445
    @ricmadden5445 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love Simons face when Robin Hood gets mentioned :)

  • @loumac8270
    @loumac8270 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good stuff good stuff!

  • @MrLShort
    @MrLShort 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The thing Ive always thought is that digital commodities should be about quantity. Wouldnt it make sense to try to sell 3 times something at 1/3 the price, expand the base that spends and create good experiences that then encourage them to tell their friends?
    Yes, certain things need to possess rarity. The brain requires challenge to stay engaged, but does EVERYTHING? Is there harm in being able to buy cheap energy? If anything that levels the field with people who massively spend on champs.

  • @Swollen_Goat
    @Swollen_Goat หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really hope Godforge continues to improve and prove that you don't have to be greedy to succeed. I'm looking forward to full release!

  • @casey2040
    @casey2040 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A base like cookie run kingdom, where you can work towards opening up and decorating and stuff like that is something I LOVE about games, and it is a great way to give low spenders things to work towards, I really hope something like this comes with the game.

  • @lifevsreality-tz3sy
    @lifevsreality-tz3sy หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    i really hope 10-20$ will go far and have real value.... and not too much story... got a have fast fun no 1h hydra runs....

  • @chriswinkler8554
    @chriswinkler8554 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not sure if this will make sense to anyone, but right now watching this it's making sense in my head as for creating more of a story and making the midgame more interesting .... In Raid you have campaign at different difficulty levels and each one unlocks as you finish the previous ... what about the new difficulty not unlocking till you hit a certain level in your experience AND each difficulty level is actually different ... the scene behind the characters is different and you have new dialog explaining lore as you move through each stage the way we get through the first difficulty in Raid ... so you're adding layers to the story as you add layers to the difficulty ...

  • @PeteQuad
    @PeteQuad หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have no problem with adults spending their every spare dime on a game. Perhaps that is what brings them joy versus buying a car, I don't know. The problem with "bad" companies is when they continually come out with new content that requires higher and higher levels of money, and continually pushing the boundary of what you will spend with the alternative being quitting.

  • @MrSimeonk
    @MrSimeonk หลายเดือนก่อน

    In 5 years & 22 accounts in RSL I have spent under 1000, and the best investment I found was the monthly boost to account, just to get the extra battles & silver. That feels like a "subscription" model & one I was comfortable with to invest in the game & what Plarium were doing. I did buy a 5 star chicken back in 2019 for 30 quid (insane) & while it led to my farmer Galek doing the farming for 2 years, I would not do that now, given where the game is at now i.e. free legendaries!

  • @juancarloshidalgo1063
    @juancarloshidalgo1063 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesante. Me resulta abrumador pensar en la escala de un proyecto como el que estáis desarrollando. La inversión económica es tan enorme que cada vez que debes tomar una decisión debe resultar tremendo. Quizás lo más determinante desde el punto de vista de Simon es: innovamos o seguimos lo que funciona? Ese equilibrio es muy difícil de conseguir, de manera que entiendo perfectamente que, por ejemplo, en el tema de las facciones se vaya a lo conocido como los egipcios o los asgardianos. Algo conocido nos lleva a lugarres más seguros, no nos metemos en líos. Sin embargo, yo hubiese apostado por algo más innovador, algo más loco, crear un mundo nuevo propio y distintivo. Jugaré al GodForge, claro que si, como seguidor de Raid es lo oblogado, pero cuanto más avanza el desarrollo, más pereza me da.

  • @relic2915
    @relic2915 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Escalating predatory behaviour was the reason I finally left RSL after more than 3 years. Like Colred, I stopped spending because I just couldn't stomach giving Plarium (Aristocrat) more and more of my money for nothing. I would have feelings of hopelessness playing RSL trying to support my clan and knowing certain progression was locked behind a pay wall. PLEASE... reward your players for the investment they make whether it be financially or in time or both and by "reward" I don't mean a guaranteed dupe leggo after 220 shard pulls or an epic book after using 3000 energy in a dungeon.

  • @Doubledigits_
    @Doubledigits_ หลายเดือนก่อน

    Solid podcast and discussion. If you read and see the this comment, the thing i hope for the most in your monetization model, is that you have left out the predatory psychological tricks most games use. For example sections of the shop that offer packs with such shit value that even the giga whales dont touch em, put there only to maybe trick a new player and otherwise having no real place in the game. Or 16 different currencies that are all interchangable where you lose track of the real value you are spending. These practices are extremely predatory designed only to milk every ounce from the player, rather than providing them with value.
    I also hate when companies insult my intelligence and do events like raid where they have just had a boosted rates event to bait people shards only to then put out a promo video hyping up this awesome new thing everyone should be excited about, which of course requires the same resources you just spent. And also the thing raid likes to do the most, obscure event details where you cannot plan out efficient resource usage as a f2p or low spender.
    Please just provide me with a good game and packs that offer me value. Don't try to package dogshit in a christmas wrapping paper and pretend its a present when everyone can still smell the shit inside. Respect my time and my dollar and you'll have me as a customer for a long time.

  • @lilliyanehaxahira9383
    @lilliyanehaxahira9383 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I cannot wait for Godforge to be released. I quit RAID shortly before they added mythic shards. At that time, I started playing when I woke up and finished the things I can (and should) daily when I went to bed (full time job owner here). This was too much. Though it was a relief, there is hardy any day I don't miss that game. I hope for Godforge filling this hole in my gaming heart.
    As for an idea for a character in game... What about evil characters / vicious legends... I'm thinking New Orleans voodoo figures, Papa Legba for example. You could do great fashion stuff with such a faction / such a character

  • @Iran2day
    @Iran2day หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Long story shirt .Give free stuff to the player base . Consider giving a good value for minthly subs . Don't make it overpriced and keep the customers happy . That's it :)

  • @thienminhle4311
    @thienminhle4311 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hi HH, if you read comments, one of the best things that you can do for your game is making any content creator who cover your game an in-game character. Let say that is the reward for them when their channel reaches 10k subs or something like that. I’m pretty sure that will go along way and helping promote your game better as everyone will want to cover the game.

    • @HellHades
      @HellHades หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Interesting idea

  • @renescherer631
    @renescherer631 หลายเดือนก่อน

    7 minutes in I have a suggestion to the monetisation model. Why not do a hybrid approach? A) Monthly pass, players choose to pay/not pay. B) Monthly pass on a subscription basis (minimum 6 months) at a discount rate. The benefit would be, players pay less, Fateless has a more steady income. Sounds good?

  • @christophm.5699
    @christophm.5699 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am 60 years old. Had played hundreds of games on different systems from ZX80 up to 12 core PCs, PS5 and so on. Racing, RTS, Space Invaders and finally, Raid was the most expensive game ever for me - and the first gotcha. It even was the reason to buy a new PC for playing referral characters in parallel to get a champ, which sits in the vault. RSL has a lot of nice ideas, but it feels, they get stuck on 25% of the way. Siege as a mode without any communication means in the game is just frustrating. Even as a deputy, I cannot push a weak team out of the stronghold. This is just destroying the fun in the game. An concerning spending - I am low spender in the game (moneywise) - it does not feel good, if you invest time, thought and finally money, and then the environmental condition get changed, like hydra recently, and all investment is trashed away. I hope GodForge is constantly evolving thing to a reasonable end i that aspect and not destroying investments done by players down into the bin. Looking forward to the beta :) make a game, that is addictive as Diablo I - but a little cheaper in terms of money than RSL... ;)

  • @FlamingoSandwich
    @FlamingoSandwich หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Let people put a spending limit and they have to confirm multiple time of have a 24hour cooling off period for spending over it once requested then if you notice people constantly request to go over there limit you can send them the gamble aware links etc

  • @edwardmercer3259
    @edwardmercer3259 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe allow people to set a monthly budget. If a transaction puts them over the budget a warning can pop up.

  • @turbozzz4376
    @turbozzz4376 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The other thing is to make the tournaments or the events or the shard pull events not every day....we used to look forward to the 2X events in RAID and now it'l like 2X every other day and that makes those events less anticipated and less fun...but when you store up and get ready and then that day comes...knowing the next one is down the road so this makes it the right time for all to do it

  • @ChrisRyder98
    @ChrisRyder98 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My biggest issue with free to play games, especially of the gacha variety, is the obscene prices. In games like Raid for example, you could spend hundreds of dollars, either to only end up with one or two legendaries, and it's possible they're a character even worse then some epics and rare champs. There is no justification for the cost of summons combined with the poor drop rates. The champions don't even have voice lines and a lot of them don't even have unique animations.

  • @timpodlich1261
    @timpodlich1261 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My only hope is a low pity dragonheir was low at 35 and I still didn't have a lot of them. Raids 200 is ridiculous. Even like 50 would have a feel your able to get most of what you want in time. Can't wait to try it

  • @skoly3030
    @skoly3030 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ok the issue with Raid monetization is that it is predatory. The prices increase the more you spend, so you wind up having to spend more for the same things. They also seem to be completely disconnected when it comes to prices for things like skins.

  • @Ceezy_yt
    @Ceezy_yt หลายเดือนก่อน

    how is it possible to truly know this before the 6month mark

    • @Ceezy_yt
      @Ceezy_yt หลายเดือนก่อน

      i love these guys, but money changes people and processes, we won't know what type of company they really turn out to be until a good amount of money has been made

    • @Ceezy_yt
      @Ceezy_yt หลายเดือนก่อน

      but with that said, im excited to try out this game as soon as possible!~

  • @nathanhenry8537
    @nathanhenry8537 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You could do different skins for robin hood down the line such as kevin Costner, cary elwes (men in tights) and even the cartoon fox from disney, for instance

  • @CrazyCaboose009
    @CrazyCaboose009 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Content difficulty progression is hard to balance. King Arthur: Legends Rise is a recent example of how not to do it i think. I barely got to Hard mode b4 i quit. The amount of gold u need and how dang hard the gold farm boss is. some1 in my discord was like "just make DoT units"...but the gold stage should b the easiest content in the game so u can actually lvl things and make progress and shouldn't require specific teams. I had some other issues, but gold was the main 1. i dont mind needing lots of gold to say give gear the last sub stat roll or something along those lines as that is end-game stuff, but i was CONSTANLY broke and easily used upwards of 50 stam pots on gold runs to just make progress through normal mode...to progress through normal shouldnt need any stam pots as account lvls alone should allow u to play through and beat normal. hard mode, do as u please, but beating normal should be pretty much the introduction and unlocking of features, not a massive struggle to farm to beat.

  • @VikingsNeverDie
    @VikingsNeverDie หลายเดือนก่อน

    Take example from King Arthur.
    There, there're plenty of good deals for low spenders, like 3 bucks for 10 ancients and so on.

  • @ComradeDerds
    @ComradeDerds หลายเดือนก่อน

    To me as a f2p player. I hate being left behind because all the whales can drop 10k and max out there characters who are all the best characters and at the top of the leader board. The f2p in the leader boards are in the bottom 500. Another aspect is being forces to stop playing because "you've run out of energy - 5$ to refill?" I would rather see a game that has gotcha but it's all in-game based not money based. Monotize through skins and passes, etc.

  • @Ceezy_yt
    @Ceezy_yt หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a serious Whale when it comes to gaming, Here are a few things that make me spend.. the base game as a whole is fun (sounds simple but it is also very complicated) while not being stressful, raid at least in the beginning was exactly that for me, and then they lost sight of that as time went on. Please for the love of God, put a very detailed auto run and ability section in the game where i can choose when, where, and how my heros use their abilities, and which abilities to use them on depending on the wave, similiar to raid but preferably even more detailed. Make autobattling a free feature (like in king Arthur, this is so amazing), doing this would make me want to actually spend far heavier on energy instead of doing it simply because ("i have to"), as i wont be worrying about how much money am i spending just to freaking autobattle automatically. Fact is, balance is a damn near impossible thing to do, but pls remember, I'D RATHER HAVE HARDER HITTING CHAMPS THAN WEAK CHARACTERS. Fact is, the lore of "over powered" Characters is what gets most whales to whale out on Characters, but this also makes it hard to balance the game overall if these champions are too powerful, and this is an impossible thing to perfect but i do suggest to giving the player base extremely strong rares to work with. the F2P won't be as mad at strong legendaries as long as the easier to obtain and build options are strong too, especially for pve purposes. PvP is a different beast and building Super strong characters for pvp type content is a must do, fact is spenders don't spend to be on the same playing field of everyone else, we spend to be the best, all i ask, is for the love of God, pls pls pls, don't put overly game breaking uncounterable champions in such as Armanz from raid, but very strong heros like mythicals who have counters but are really freaking good is the type of "strong" heros i mean. And lastly, a major thing that makes me really want to spend is when new characters are introduced that are super strong but look amazing! WOR did amazing with this with prateus, ingrid, silas, hex, ect. Very strong characters that also look absolutely amazing. This as a whale, is what makes me not only want to spend, but spend more in gacha games. QOL is a must in any game and shouldn't even need to be stated.

    • @Ceezy_yt
      @Ceezy_yt หลายเดือนก่อน

      Some things that i would like to see, is a better version of a raid esc pvp system, epic 7 is another great system to take ideas from. A tower mode, that gets harder and harder, but gives better and better rewards, i mean you could have thousands of levels and it'd still be fun if done correctly. And just knowing that there are better and better rewards as you climb makes it even more worth it. For me personally these type of things are what i personally look for when getting into a gacha game. These things being implemented correctly and in the right way is all the difference.

  • @idreamofglitches8733
    @idreamofglitches8733 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would love to see a better system for 'Silver' that Raid uses. The fact that silver costs are everywhere, but the 'free gifts' of silver they give are never enough to even upgrade 1 champions set of gear. I hate to see RNG, on RNG, on RNG, meaning Grinding Dungeons for 500 runs and most of the gear is trash that you sell anyways. Then, the upgrading of the little gear that rolled properly costs so much silver, but might roll with bad bonus modifiers. I think its problem because I dont even get excited by seeing 6* legendary/myth gear drops because there is such a high chance of poor rolls that are objectively worse than the ones you want. (flat atk, flat def, vs res, acc, spd etc.)
    It seems so silly that you can Pay for Shards, and then have to Pay silver to open them. Another example, spending Energy that you earned, to spend time to grind Potions form Potion Keep, and then having to SPEND silver to Apply them. There are many other examples in Raid that I hate almost everything that doesn't cost energy, then costs Silver instead.

  • @GunsmasOykot
    @GunsmasOykot หลายเดือนก่อน

    Trying to make the playerbase happy is an impossible task. If manage, then you will be the first in the World to complet that achievement.

  • @stephengallagher544
    @stephengallagher544 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Robin hood A2 splitting the arrow. attacks a single target 2 times 1st hit piercing the enemy armour the 2nd hit hits exactly the same place splitting the arrow and ignoring 50% enemys defence.

  • @JohnDoe-mq3nk
    @JohnDoe-mq3nk หลายเดือนก่อน

    My 2 cents is don't have events so close together it overwhelms people . Make the events so that no matter what type of player F2P or spender you all can achieve the same rewards . The spender can achieve the rewards quicker because he does spend ,while F2P takes longer. Gives events at least a month notice so people can gather the materials and complete it . Don't make it so people can pay their way to end game because they get bored sitting around wanting for more content .

  • @craiggarris8076
    @craiggarris8076 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel like both sides need to be happy p2w players need incentives to buy and f2p players need reason to believe they won't fall to far behind a paywall. I feel like in my opinion a middle ground could be the monthly passes. Make the free section just as good as the section you pay for but lower quantity.
    For instance raids pass in the f2p spot you get meh rewards that don't really help end game as you dont really get the mats for 5-6star gear but the p2w section you get a lot. Plus other rewards the f2p section does not have. Why not make the rewards the same but less? The f2p still get a chance to grow but the p2w gets more of a chance.
    And then just add a skin or something cosmetic for the paying section to really get rhem to buy. I love skins in games.
    I play league of legends a f2p game with a lot of skins ive spent thousands on that game for sure. All cosmetics.

  • @nathansherk5429
    @nathansherk5429 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Genghis Khan has to be in the game. Legendary human by all standards.

    • @nathanhenry8537
      @nathanhenry8537 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Mother Theresa as legendary support/ healer

  • @GeorgiAngelov-ys5qs
    @GeorgiAngelov-ys5qs หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey guys !
    Ive been on HH for 5 months now . Im playing raid and i cant wait to see your game
    how can i become a godforge tester
    best regards
    GAngelov

  • @MrSimeonk
    @MrSimeonk หลายเดือนก่อน

    A gotcha game that has weapons & armour to collect, as well as champions seems a dimension worth exploring, but in regards pay walls, are these items/champions going to be locked behind a pay wall? In RSL it seems mythicals are locked behind a paywall as I have never pulled one after 5 years game play in & with 22 accounts, but I see new players with 2 or more Mythicals.

  • @connormaguire4537
    @connormaguire4537 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Don't force sales with pop ups even if they are good value. Evaluate the packs and make the players seek out the store. Age of Empires Mobile has done an incredible balancing job between F2P enjoyment and P2W expense!
    hasn't stopped the whales and krakens in anyway, but still enjoyable for f2p and low spenders!

  • @jshtng78
    @jshtng78 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The F2P suggestion that I will always come back to is once again to look at gacha grandaddy Summoners War and give the basic progression utilities to every player for free and have those units be permanently available, no limited time lockout on getting them. Yes the premium units are way stronger but they are absolutely overkill except in PVP. Make ALL the progression basics from earlygame to late game permanently available via grinding and make the premium chase units just overkill or QoL. All gachas should copy this aspect and I hope that Godforge goes all the way in that aspect.
    I'd also suggest copying how Summoners War does limited time content. The mechanics of every unit ever created are available all year round based on your luck in pulling them, the only thing that goes away are IP related cosmetics.

  • @Happytremereinc
    @Happytremereinc หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Hey yall! So it's seconds after this publishing. But you're missing the F in Godforge

    • @knightfletcher8871
      @knightfletcher8871 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      F

    • @joshm3363
      @joshm3363 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I noticed it immediately too 😅 must be my OCD hard at work hahahaha

  • @bwmcguire
    @bwmcguire หลายเดือนก่อน

    Seeing Chosen's smirk when COLREd talked about custom clan banners means he remembers when raid did that and we had weiners and swastikas everywhere

  • @jgoosthuizen9092
    @jgoosthuizen9092 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hoping for a affordable battlepass! .....forget Robin Hood. Do a Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse event!

  • @SuperSkrullz
    @SuperSkrullz หลายเดือนก่อน

    The important thing is don't do events for F2p players that stress them out like Raid did (Gnut fusion)...like after that i totally stopped wanting to buy the monthly gems
    Players like to spend when they are relaxed on a game.

  • @Swollen_Goat
    @Swollen_Goat หลายเดือนก่อน

    "If you buy this pack, you get the hero that overcomes this wall" Isn't even true for RSL in the mid game. It's more like "If you give us 1k, we'll give you a random legendary from 4 years ago that doesn't help you account at all, and.... suck it"
    RSL has the worst monetization I have seen in any game, and not just that the packs are bad deals, but the rates on pulling legendaries and the artificial scarcity of the summons are so poorly and purposefully designed.

  • @andersprezent2057
    @andersprezent2057 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    At account creation there should be an option to opt out of P2W. You will still be able to spend money on the game for quality of life improvement, skins etc but you will not be able to purchase shards, energy, gems and everything else we would call P2W. This also enables you to separate players for tournaments, PvP etc to make the play experience more balanced for players.
    Should be possible to switch to P2W account at any time but ofc not the other way around.

  • @SmowkeyBones-jo9ln
    @SmowkeyBones-jo9ln หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would you please make this game compatible with lower end android devices? Wasted over a year on raid a several hundred dollars for their last update to make the tournament and event tabs no longer open. I've done several trouble tickets, tried all their generic responses to no avail, finally giving up BC its my device. Been looking forward to this game from the beginning so please if possible make it compatible for those of us with lower end devices and no computer options.

  • @denisprilepskiy745
    @denisprilepskiy745 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There are no way to build ethical casino. If your monetisation includes gamble - you are casino basically. Either dont use that type of monetization or dont pretend to be "not like raid".

  • @SteveSmith-qo8mm
    @SteveSmith-qo8mm หลายเดือนก่อน

    Every move made by the devs cant be geared toward spenders you have to drop content for your f2p players otherwise your game will be " In the bin with it ".

  • @godman6397
    @godman6397 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Robin Hood needs to be the cold heart in your game 😂

  • @or4sn45
    @or4sn45 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does god forge/fateless incorporate crypto or play to earn?

  • @Pappster
    @Pappster หลายเดือนก่อน

    Robin Hood a rare or uncommon 😂 is he gonna become the Death Knight of Fateless? 😂

  • @Turgal_
    @Turgal_ 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    at the end of the day you wil need people spending or your game won't last , making your game accessible for everyone is good but youll need to 10% Whales to make your game survive , Also with all the new rules coming in from Europe, China about Gambling method in game you ll need to think about make it right or you wont be able to publish your game in those countries .

  • @ano5339
    @ano5339 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Have 10 pulls as cheap as you can get them for everyone...but make your money on selling cool skins...so F2P can get all the good heroes but the spenders look cooler :)

  • @Kitfoo77
    @Kitfoo77 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No subscription. Just price everything 75% lower than Raid and people will pay it.

  • @mals292003
    @mals292003 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Micro transactions should be micro transactions just because i spend 5$ on a pack doesnt mean i want my next pack minimum to be 20$

    • @mals292003
      @mals292003 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Have high dollar packs for whales certainly but low dollar packs for people on a budget

  • @Kenton2
    @Kenton2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If your goal is to make a great game, people will want to spend money. If you only focus on sucking money, people will be more resistant. Platinum has lots of easy tweaks they could make but choose not to for the sake of money. That's what makes me not want to give them a dime. Old blizzard wanted to make good games and didn't focus on money grabbing and the money and success followed. Now people lost faith in them...😊

  • @cjhmdm
    @cjhmdm 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Gonna be completely honest here...
    1. I haven't watched the video yet
    2. Either way, this isn't something that is appropriate for the developers/creators of Godforge to cover due to obvious bias and need for positive marketing.

  • @b4g4b3l
    @b4g4b3l หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i like Colred take on giveing gatcha games money... "first treat us as humans then you will receive money from me" ... wish every content creator would do that, and stop those stupid, low effort, videos with shard pulls...
    being a f2p in most games, by choice, if a game keeps me entertained and let me gather 80% of the heroes, after 3-4 months i start spending to get the rest of the heroes and to reward the devs for my time enjoing the game, i understand that you need to make money, but hope you guys dont make this game to p2w

  • @MisterMenPlays
    @MisterMenPlays หลายเดือนก่อน

    It always comes to f2p and p2w. But if you play for fun does it really matters?

  • @HOUND-0
    @HOUND-0 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about reroll😅

  • @PopcornNZ
    @PopcornNZ หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a company I don't think you should spend too much time on making a pure free to play experience exceptional. imo the focus should be more on making the game exceptional for all levels of spenders because money is ultimately needed to support the game.

  • @Drogbeorn
    @Drogbeorn หลายเดือนก่อน

    Raid got 14 US from me with a guaranteed champion, other than that - I do not gamble, give me a sure thing

  • @andygoodwin8441
    @andygoodwin8441 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Change that title

    • @nathanhenry8537
      @nathanhenry8537 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The title is mint, you literally are gaining champions that many of which are Gods by means of what some would label forging. It's such a nice change from all the generic names using the same handful of words in different order such as "dragon clan raid" or "castle of dragons summoners". I thought Godforge was short and sweet and perfectly describes this game.

    • @andygoodwin8441
      @andygoodwin8441 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nathanhenry8537 They changed it from Godorge to Godforge like I advised 👍

    • @nathanhenry8537
      @nathanhenry8537 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @andygoodwin8441 oh I thought you didn't like the title "godforge"

    • @andygoodwin8441
      @andygoodwin8441 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nathanhenry8537 nah, mate it's a great name for the game 👍🏻

  • @user-sl4gb3vc2v
    @user-sl4gb3vc2v หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like the challenge of achieving and progressing, but don't drag things out to oblivion, i.e. pulling more garbage champs rather than those that add real value to your account and/or a way to obtain all in-game resources. Let me have more control of the types of champs (PVE or PVP based champs) I acquire as opposed to happen-stance luck of the draw.
    I would spend for guaranteed champ events that would add value to my account and forge passes that provide valuable resources / gear to my account. Forging gear is fun, but not fun when 98% of the time the stats on forged gear is garbage. Its such a waste of precious resources that took FOREVER to acquire.
    Please don't FORCE PVP. I want to dip my toe in those waters b/f being thrown into the lions den with a pocket knife.