SONY A7III | BEST FULL FRAME SENSOR ?

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  • @krzycsur9990
    @krzycsur9990 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Interesting test, Sony is very similar to Pentax (except DR) , but your tests show how underrated is Pentax ..

    • @felipew101
      @felipew101 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "Pentax is underrated" was the vibe I got immediately when he described everyone's responses to his tests

    • @theCameraVille
      @theCameraVille  4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Pentax is very underrated. Its crazy how long it lasted.

  • @RobinStrower
    @RobinStrower 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    PENTAX K1 wins big time.
    Some SONY fan Boys may say it is subtle but is not.
    K1 images are better in every aspect.
    I have to add, if you like the handling of the A7III better you will prefer it and make better pics.
    It is great having options but never low ball PENTAX because they have fantastic cameras.
    All the best,
    Robin

    • @theCameraVille
      @theCameraVille  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup. Sony is catching up but Pentax some how remains very well on top.

  • @amhtxc2960
    @amhtxc2960 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Another great video!!
    The Pentax K-1 has great ISO-invariance which gives you a lot of flexibility (you can underexpose to avoid highlights). The A7III clearly not so. But you can use a bit higher ISO directly with the A7III. It seems to handle very well the highlights (by other videos). Then, the K-1 looks just a bit sharper, though a bit noisier, when pushing up the ISO.
    By the way, pixel count, or better, pixel size, does not correlate with lower ISO performance anymore at all, at least in FF cameras. I checked it, mathematically with data from Dxomark, for 44 cameras. With so many technological variables playing a role in the cameras we must not assume anymore that bigger pixels mean better ISO performance.

    • @theCameraVille
      @theCameraVille  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pentax has a nice Prime IV !

    • @theCameraVille
      @theCameraVille  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      SwitchRich That is for your case only. Sadly, this just means you never took it out to shoot in all condition. In this case, keep shooting the way you are shooting but once you realize a color shift, yup.

    • @theCameraVille
      @theCameraVille  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      SwitchRich This is what your condition are. Reading at other user below, seems to be a different story. One even sold their Sony for a Nikon. Put it this way, in terms of the best DR without shift in colors and breaking , Pentax . Sony A7iii is good like the others but no where above a Pentax system. Its a hard pill to swallow. Check my video before this, I took Sony side. All in all, what you have is fine. As long as you are happy.

  • @marwitz
    @marwitz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks, Li! I take advantage of my K-1's dynamic range often when taking pictures at high school football games. These are smaller schools, which typically have poor light quantity and quality. I definitely would like for Pentax to spend some R&D on autofocus, but as with any system I've learned to shoot within Pentax capabilities. For the other genres of photography I shoot, autofocus doesn't play a role. That said, given my current results, autofocus alone is not enough of a reason to switch systems.
    btw I had been on the fence about switching and the A7III was on the top of my list for consideration. Your reviews have solidified my decision not to change yet. I really appreciate these reviews!

    • @theCameraVille
      @theCameraVille  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Russell! Not a problem. Just here discovering the Pentax myself. In my other videos, I mentioned I am a Nikon shooter, checking to see what is going on here in the Pentax world. I can see why people love the Pentax. The dynamic range, color and noise performance is fantastic and I own the D810.
      wait for the the Pentax K1 MKIII, hopefully that will be the camera to last a life time.

  • @gunnarkartman7444
    @gunnarkartman7444 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good work! As a K-1 owner I’m very happy with the result of your tests 😊

    • @theCameraVille
      @theCameraVille  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup!! Dynamic range is still there for the Prime engine on the Pentax~!

  • @the40thstep
    @the40thstep 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What's the point of being the best when you don't know how the sell and appeal to the wide market. Pentax Board of Directors should just proceed with seppuku for the shameful mismanagement of the company

    • @theCameraVille
      @theCameraVille  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      We can agree on this together. Pentax isnt marketing anything. They just put a product on the shelf and hope its sales with no real advertisement. They dont even contact me. This is also my last Pentax video for the brand. I only did this channel to spot the good and the bad for the brand so people can be aware of it.

    • @the40thstep
      @the40thstep 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theCameraVille I have a k5 for photography which I absolutely love but I hate Pentax for what they do to the brand and its future. I wish they moved on with the ages, utilized the good and explored the new

    • @theCameraVille
      @theCameraVille  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@the40thstep 100% agree. It is a strange situation. I am a nikon shooter by the way. So Pentax is my companion system. I wasnt so sure about the Penatx at all when I started, After 3.5 years, Im so confuse. Great System, not enough of marketing for it. My local camera store dont carry Pentax anymore. So it is rare to get it locally.

  • @Dobromir133
    @Dobromir133 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent test! I would say that even my current K-3 is shining with a quite good dynamic range, that's why I usually tend to underexpose my shots without any worries in post. Pentax did a really great job with this.

    • @theCameraVille
      @theCameraVille  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup! Because we can retain the highlights very nicely hehe and pull the shadows without breaking it. :D

  • @SCtester
    @SCtester 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome, I've been waiting for this comparison. You're the only reviewer I know of who so thoroughly tests dynamic range - it's great!

    • @theCameraVille
      @theCameraVille  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Boom! It got very close until the end. hehe.

  • @photoguyinPEI
    @photoguyinPEI 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sony manufacturers the K1 sensor. It's not a difference in the sensor. It's the processing units each camera uses and how they process the information.

    • @theCameraVille
      @theCameraVille  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/qZAGlQwjgMI/w-d-xo.html
      Already mentioned before. Just didn't want to mentioned every single time I do a Sony vs Pentax lol.

  • @AllistonOnElement
    @AllistonOnElement 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great review, particularly the more detailed dynamic range test.
    Kudos to the Pentax K-1 and it’s PRIME IMAGE ENGINE!
    I’m surprised reviews always focus on the latest and greatest camera releases and highlight sensor manufacturer. Granted, it’s important, especially where PENTAX and NIKON use the exact same sensor and achieve different results. But I find it interesting in such sensor review comparisons, they never really talk about the Image Engine behind it engineered and made by the camera manufacturer itself. Now perhaps that is what you allude to as dynamic range and colour. But it’s much more, a coalescence of metering, custom image, program modes, white balance, colour rendering, MTF info (how the camera utilizes lens characteristics) and so on.
    It would be interesting to see a test comparing metering modes, program modes, custom imagine modes and such between cameras, to get back to the basics of how cameras see light and tones, hues and colour, the numerous parameters of control made available to the photographer.
    It what also be interesting to see comparative tests of the K-1 Mark II, given it’s the most recent model, from 2018. It embodies the advancements from the Imagine Engine of the KP with updates for more accurate Blue and Green colour renderings, improved Pixel Shift, lower noise at higher ISO, faster AF, and more.

  • @richardbraham2486
    @richardbraham2486 ปีที่แล้ว

    I now have a K1 and it’s an amazing camera. Absolutely love it. Yes it’s a large camera but it fits me well and the results are terrific especially when matched with a top lens.

  • @mauriciolacruz
    @mauriciolacruz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pentax K-1.
    When you look through the viewfinder directly at a powerful light source (mainly the Sun), you can see that are difficult to see, and even disappear (due to the internal reflections of light in the pentaprism I imagine), the green light diodes of exposure information (speed, aperture, EV, ISO, etc.)
    Does anyone know how to solve this problem? Is it possible to adjust the power of the viewfinder's light diodes? Or how?

  • @synthesis297
    @synthesis297 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I saw this crap on my Sony A7III when I was shooting at Astros. Let me say, this video doesn't do its justice. It gets even worse than that. Sony 14 bit raw is a total joke. I ended up just selling it off for a Nikon.

    • @theCameraVille
      @theCameraVille  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yup, I could had shown a lot worse but I think the audience got the picture. All in all , the Sony is getting there. I will give them 2 more years to reach its full potential but by that time, the market may have shifted. I will also be transitioning over to my Nikons to review!

    • @MrEugeneNEGATIVE
      @MrEugeneNEGATIVE 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It seems that both of you forgot to switch from Sony's lossy compression to uncompressed raw ))

  • @ChimaChindaDev
    @ChimaChindaDev 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interesting. I wish one of your last remaining videos would compare both camera’s video performance. It’s great to see how they compare from a photography perspective but it would be even more interesting to also see how close they are video-wise (I know Sony would win but still....). Too little too late I guess but I hope you somehow change your mind and continue this channel. 🙂

    • @ChimaChindaDev
      @ChimaChindaDev 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Graham Hobbs I agree. I’m just saying that it’s better to also compare video performance so it’s more complete. Having owned the K1 and K3 I know just how good or how bad they are for video. I use Fujifilm now for mostly everything but I have high hopes for the new Pentax. I just love Pentax.

    • @theCameraVille
      @theCameraVille  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is very interesting. From what I gather from my friends, the A7III is great but the color of the skin tone are off. It is very wonky in those area. Having said that, I never tested out the Pentax video before, and to think about it I never done video on my Nikons lol. I only done video in Lumix. A better video would taking look at the 4k.

  • @pal2tech
    @pal2tech 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great comparison video! Very nicely done.

    • @theCameraVille
      @theCameraVille  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Pal! This is my last Pentax comparison. I am returning back to my original gear, Nikon. I might check out the Fuji again. I will take a look. Cheers!

  • @ShutterKnack
    @ShutterKnack 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a way to end the series! Great job! Time to grow this channel and go Nikon (and Fujifilm) 💪 It wouldn’t hurt to bring the Pentax out every now and then. Cheers!

    • @theCameraVille
      @theCameraVille  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is the Plan. To populate the channel with popular brands and every now and then the Pentax will appear. It will bring more diversity and viewership and overall more exposure for Pentax.

  • @PaulChannel96
    @PaulChannel96 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video, You should do a Pentax k1 vs Panasonic S1. it would be interesting to see

    • @theCameraVille
      @theCameraVille  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That was the plan but the support went dry sadly.
      cheers!

    • @PaulChannel96
      @PaulChannel96 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theCameraVille sad to hear. Nonetheless good luck in the future

  • @mogbaba
    @mogbaba 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    And the interesting ting is that Pentax K1 uses a Sony sensor, but, they have done some improvement on it.

    • @theCameraVille
      @theCameraVille  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup, its their prime processing.

  • @sck8733
    @sck8733 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So... if I am not used to 4-5 stops under exposure and fixing in post.. Sony is as good as Pentax?

    • @theCameraVille
      @theCameraVille  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      At those low MP, yes but when pushing dynamic range, very close but Pentax is top.

  • @SokolHazizi
    @SokolHazizi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's incredible how a 4 year old camera/sensor is the standard for comparison of your reviews. I am so glad I got mine! The thing I tell myself after seeing your comparisons is "hey you already got the best camera go and take some pictures!"

    • @theCameraVille
      @theCameraVille  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol yup. I normally buy a new camera every 1.5 - 2 years but I still have the K1 around after 4 years so that is an interesting fact I noticed. You are getting fantastic colors ,iso and DR. Sad that the media dont ever test these things. They just move on to the next and next and next lol

    • @theCameraVille
      @theCameraVille  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup, more durable than the Sony. I dont think any sony user would dare to put mud on their camera. Doubt it. ;D

  • @dzava
    @dzava ปีที่แล้ว

    Its a shame such a great and giant brand slowly vanished after introduction of digital and now it has a tiny piece of market when comapred to gigants like Canon or Sony & Nikon.
    But still holds up great and has its loyal fans which I adore.
    Its quite funny that Sony made a sensor for Pentax that worked better than the sensor made byt Sony for their own cameras...

    • @theCameraVille
      @theCameraVille  ปีที่แล้ว

      I spent 3-4 years reviewing the brand, hoping they do something with the K1 and they seem to gave it up. It is wild. I am a Nikon fan but the K1 is special.

    • @dzava
      @dzava ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theCameraVille well perhaps they are working on the Mk III of the K-1 ? Nikon D850 has been here even longer and yet still in production (although the real flagship is D6 is being updated every 3 years)
      Or maybe they are working on a mirrorless version... it will take a bit more time when compared to the leaders who outsell them
      As long as the manual film goes, Im mostly Nikon FM2n or Pentax SP guy but I never say no to a nice EOS or OM body as well
      Not much into digital, but would love to try that baby one day ... many photographers agreed they loved their Pentax digital bodies

  • @ariesmight6978
    @ariesmight6978 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why am I unable to find any youtube videos. Showing the video capabilities of the Pentax K1 Markii? Which is the camera that I want to purches. For obviously hybrid use.

    • @theCameraVille
      @theCameraVille  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because its bad. And in making the video, folks will think its trolling Pentax.

    • @ariesmight6978
      @ariesmight6978 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theCameraVille Ouch....hopefully in the Markiii model. It's video capability will be highly improved.

  • @SergeyFM_en
    @SergeyFM_en 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good comparison, BUT with SONY you should have used Uncompressed RAW - much better shadow recovery without artifacts and purple coloring.

    • @theCameraVille
      @theCameraVille  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Already done, I own Sony cameras. Welcome to the channel. Yup, Own a few models.

    • @synthesis297
      @synthesis297 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      He is right!, I sold off my A7III because of this issue. uncompress is decently better but still not good for low light. You will find strange stuff still. Its an entry level camera. I sold it for a Nikon but the Pentax looks impressive.
      Good luck!

  • @BJEPhoto
    @BJEPhoto 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for your videos, good to see under-valued Pentax objectively compared

  • @CapitanFajardo
    @CapitanFajardo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you were buying a K-1 today would you choose the Mark II instead of the original?
    I recall reading somewhere that the sensor of the original K-1 produces better results for RAW shooters.

    • @theCameraVille
      @theCameraVille  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I kept the K1 Mk1 over the MkII because the dynamic range was better. The MkII has better AF by a hair.

  • @Michael-fw5ef
    @Michael-fw5ef 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like Pentax in every way except they need to improve their ISO performance across all their cameras. I dont care if they say their cameras can do 819200 ISO. I want to see better images when the ISO is cranked up. ISO means nothing on paper alone.

    • @theCameraVille
      @theCameraVille  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I want to see that as well. Need some samples. They did similar to the KP and it was worthless on high it went and the quality.

  • @LonnieChristopher
    @LonnieChristopher 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I own the K-1 M1 and had purchased the A7 III and returned it a few days later after two full days of shooting. I did not like the output of the Sony at all. Clarity was the main issue I had with the Sony especially in shots that had a wide dynamic range. The AA filter on the Sony A7 III I think factored into some of the clarity issues as well. The Sony also felt like a toy camera to me, lightweight is nice but it felt like it would break if I dropped it and did not seem weatherproof at all. I would like to replace my heavy K-1 with a mirrorless camera at some point I just haven't found something that I like with the features and quality as the k-1. Perhaps Pentax will come out with a mirrorless camera at some point, but I am not holding my breath on that one.

    • @theCameraVille
      @theCameraVille  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is also why I haven't gone all in on the Sony. Trust me, I would love to and get that Sony money that everyone is getting, but the quality isn't there. Its a bit half baked. I will give them credit, they are going in the right direction but I don't think I will invest in them like my other systems. I will check with Sony in another 2 years.

  • @kieskatwijk2391
    @kieskatwijk2391 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the old K1 not the newer K-1 mk.2 ! The newer Pentax has better noise performance.

    • @theCameraVille
      @theCameraVille  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The newer K1 mk2 has worse dynamic range performance saldy. I did a video on it.

  • @FrancescoCoppola
    @FrancescoCoppola 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video as allways, Lee! We shall see how Pentax will continue progressing with the new apsc top line camera, when it will come out!

    • @theCameraVille
      @theCameraVille  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yup. the future look brighter for Pentax. They need to act fast asap.

  • @gamingiq126
    @gamingiq126 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So what would recommend for best low light camera

    • @theCameraVille
      @theCameraVille  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Photo wise? I will just get the Pentax K 1 MK 1 so far. second would be Nikon FF 24mp

  • @MarcosBH
    @MarcosBH 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow Li, thank you! You really know how to test for dynamic range.

    • @theCameraVille
      @theCameraVille  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup, I could had ended the test with the first DR and say wow its even hehe. That is what a Sony reviewer would do.
      I tend to really push it out and see the real deal. But now people can go and watch other reviewers and see how they do the DR test. hehe. If they Sony passed the DR test, I would been so amaze and reported it. I was already amaze with the color science :D

  • @mikedimimd
    @mikedimimd 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey man,
    Do you have any reference settings for the K1 for landscape photography?

    • @theCameraVille
      @theCameraVille  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey Mike,
      That is a huge question. There is no one setting. It depends what lens you have, the time of day, what you are going for.
      With the K1, its very simple to do HDRI, bracketing, astro, and etc. There is a ton of tools and a variety of ways to do it. I don't do any series on here but maybe down the road.

    • @mikedimimd
      @mikedimimd 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theCameraVille more or less looking for settings to avoid

  • @JuanLopez-oz9kh
    @JuanLopez-oz9kh 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you , thank you, no safe zone in your test, real DR test, all Ricoh needs to do is make the k1 a mirrorless camera with good autofocus and they will be in the mirrorless games without needing a focus group to set them back 5years like Nikon.

    • @theCameraVille
      @theCameraVille  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      bahaha yup! I could had ended it at the first test and said, welp its the same DR. Its all even go buy sony LOL! I would make money like crazy but no. I have to test it thoroughly and not jump on the Sony money train .
      Now , people can stare at others DR test and realize, hmmmm… I see what is going on now. hehe.

    • @JuanLopez-oz9kh
      @JuanLopez-oz9kh 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theCameraVille the truth is OUT!

  • @francisboudreau7524
    @francisboudreau7524 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just love your channel, you’re the most honest reviewer out there👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

    • @theCameraVille
      @theCameraVille  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Francis! I try my best. The A7III was getting too wild I will have to say haha.

    • @francisboudreau7524
      @francisboudreau7524 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      the CameraVille I’m a K-1 owner and I have no deception with it... more than 26k clicks on it👍🏻

  • @drumsticksusa
    @drumsticksusa 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, Li. Great work as usual.

  • @sdhute
    @sdhute 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about the k1 mark ii ?

    • @theCameraVille
      @theCameraVille  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      K1 MkII is worse than K1. Pentax cheaped out their conductors. so Sony is better than the MKII imo

  • @Speed-Cecil
    @Speed-Cecil 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoying your videos! 👍

  • @matthewsykes2646
    @matthewsykes2646 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Li, is there a chance to see the dynamic range test between Pentax and Canon?

    • @theCameraVille
      @theCameraVille  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That was the plan but there is no budget to do so. I wanted to test the Canon EOSR , Lumix, and Fuji medium formate.
      This is my last ever Pentax side by side video.

    • @matthewsykes2646
      @matthewsykes2646 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theCameraVille damn.. This hurts so bad.. Anyway, i'll watch your amazing content!

    • @sexysilversurfer
      @sexysilversurfer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Only if you want to get hate comments from Canon fanboys! 😂😂

  • @derkjanvanvugt
    @derkjanvanvugt 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes you confirm my opinion....;-)

    • @theCameraVille
      @theCameraVille  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha , yea, the DR is far better than the K-1 vs the Sony. Another user down below claims to see even worse on their A7III. Mine was very minimal.

    • @derkjanvanvugt
      @derkjanvanvugt 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theCameraVille True true.....

  • @funkythiru
    @funkythiru 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where did you get the mount/body cover?

    • @theCameraVille
      @theCameraVille  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The E mount on the Sony?

    • @LucasvOort
      @LucasvOort 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's the Pentax 100 year jubileum metal cover, got it with 100 year strap (as seen on top of books with iso test)

    • @funkythiru
      @funkythiru 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theCameraVille No the pentax 100 anniversary

  • @DiviPhotos
    @DiviPhotos 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool

  • @RagingBubuli
    @RagingBubuli 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When Pentax says it got 14-bit color they deliver 14-bit color. When Sony say it got a 14-bit color, they deliver 13-bit color.

  • @eagleeyephoto8715
    @eagleeyephoto8715 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Comparing apples with oranges, does not make any sense.

    • @theCameraVille
      @theCameraVille  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wasn't my idea. Sony user wanted to see it.

    • @eagleeyephoto8715
      @eagleeyephoto8715 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theCameraVille Yeah they always have to complain about something.Having used Sony FF, Pentax and now Fujifilm X and GFX poor Sony is still behind when it come to output.

  • @ErikObjectenco
    @ErikObjectenco 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The sensor is not that important.

    • @theCameraVille
      @theCameraVille  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Then why did you bother to watch a video that has that in the title? Because you felt defeated and there is no better way to reply but that? buyers remorse I hear.

    • @jos_t_band3912
      @jos_t_band3912 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@theCameraVille because it is fun to see people nerding out.

    • @theCameraVille
      @theCameraVille  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jos_t_band3912 More like helping with peoples investment lol. We are talking about 2grand cameras here lol.

  • @sexysilversurfer
    @sexysilversurfer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the on sensor PDAF points cause the strange artefacts when raising shadows.

    • @theCameraVille
      @theCameraVille  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Im not sure on the Sony part but everything was manual focus.