66 GT 350 289 2 edition covering the block from carb to pan. Here is a video link to the engine running on a run stand. • 1966 GT 350 289 Build date of engine Jan 1966
Man my old man worked for Ford from 1962-1995 and I have heard him talk about the hipo 289 forever and you got a very correct and complete 289 hipo that is modified by Shelby. Also you can’t show it but it has hatchet rods and a balance tab on crank with a birnell test mark. So original and untouched. Anyone that questions that engine has no knowledge of Ford high performance engines. You even got the hipo water pump cool. It kills me how trolls pick and say they had this or that, when all they ever had was a head full of dreams and lies and empty hands.. you are knowledgeable .
Hatchet rods ? Your confused ! They had a hatchet style balance weight slid over the snout of the crank ,the rods were heavier than regular 289 rods due to the larger 3/8 bolts ,same rods were used in the 302 boss !
Regarding the serial number on the lower block above the oil pan...those are only found on California Hipo Mustangs...if your car was manufactured in Detroit the engines are not serialized to a particular car (a guy who owned two Hipo 289's, denoted by the bigger main caps, and neither block had the serial/vin number on the block). Fyi, as to Shelby's claimed 306 BHP...that is spot on. One of my Hipo engines i applied the Shelby mods and it pulled 305 on the dyno.
Nice job, been check'n out HiPos for Shelby friends all way back to before we were old enough to drive! This Seems right-on and the SAAC paperwork documents is always the Gold Standard! Thx share!
Tip! Distributors no vacume adv. And duel points part# C5OE-12127-E , aluminum water pump,C5AZ-8501-K timing cover matches the pump,yes large dampner C5AZ-6513-C also high nodular crank 3/8 rod bolts special rods C5ZZ-6200-A good little motor 😊
I thought the hi po heads would have bigger valves, and ports besides the spring pockets and the screw in studs. Since this was a solid lifter motor and rated to 6000 rpm it needed those studs
Thanks for the great video. All I can add is the fuel pumps are specific to the k engine. The pumps should be date coded to the engine and be double sprung to provide additional fuel at higher revs.👍
Another thing is, the Aluminum Valve Covers had what they call "Hollow Letters" on the "COBRA" part of the cover. Inside the valve cover it says "Buddy Bar" which is the company who cast the covers.. That is what was on my 1965 GT 350 engine.
good video. I used to paint my blocks the light early Ford Blue too. One thing you might be aware, and I am speculating, but your passenger side valve cocer is like the one I owned and bought fro Ford in the early 1970s. It has the right grommet for the PVC valve. My driver side valve cover has a push oin oil cap. If you look at replacement valve covers , both valve covers are the driver side only, and uses a screw in oil cap, and a grommet that screws in the cap hole for the PVC valve. I have often speculated why they are doing this? Did the break or loose the original mold for the passenger side valve cover? Also I love your Tiger, I had an Alpine I wanted to convert, but when I owned it, I didn't have the skills to convert. But it is my most favorite car I ever owned, even with it's negaitivities like Lucas wiring, wire rims that would spin in it's axles if not tighened, bad weak rear end, plastic rear window, and the very worse, vapor lock. I always had to park it on a hill to roll start it. The Alpine was notorious for vapor lock. I like that you also have the removable hard top. I didn't know the 289 also had a five bolt similar to the 260. Everyone is putting Coyote engines in their cars, nice to see a old school engine. I follow a Aussie You Tube channel, and they are getting 600 HP out of 289s there.
It is already covered in comments below, but "NOT ALL" HiPo engine blocks got vin#'s stamped on them. While, most if not possibly all 1965-1966 engines are stamped with a vin# there are many original 1967 HiPo engines that did NOT get a vin# stamped on them .... this is particualry true of the later in the year cars. Of course this fact surrounding "missing vin stamps" is documented in the two most authortaive books out there being Shelby America World Registry and "The High Performance Mustang" book by Tom Gregory. However, as well pointed out in this video there are various other clues (all of which in the cumulative) help you dial in on what you are looking at..... LOVE the HiPo's
I agree with you about the Vin stamping on the block and some of those blocks that were not stamped. but I would add I believe the value of the engine is greatly increased with a vin stamping on the side of the block
I had a k code in a mustang and this was in 74 never touched had a aluminum water pump and it had 3/8 rod bolts and a counter weight on the crankshaft no vacuum advance
You are very correct, sir that’s the one thing I regret when I made this video is to not make the date codes a little bit clearer for everyone being an older guy recording a video and trying to get all this information out is mind-boggling. Sometimes I’m gonna start doing outlines before I do videos, but the guys who know all the date codes are correct.
High performance Ford engines have a stamped VIN that matches the cars they were in. Other Ford engines did not. All 289 Hi-Po engines had solid lifters and adjustable rocker arms.
There were different timing gear & chain setups also along with the cover. Not picking a fight but I'm not convinced that just those few changes found that much horsepower w/o a cam change.
The cam change might be a possibility, but I guess that’s one thing that I will never know the motor I had has never been taken apart so I couldn’t measure it to verify. I don’t know if there are any original Shelby guys left alive to confirm this or not.
There is a video of this engine, running on a run stand on my channel. You can listen to it run and decide for yourself. If it sounds like it has a more aggressive cam than the original hipo Cam.
In those days everyone rated their engines under for insurance reasons. I do know a 'D' model engine, early '65, ran extremely good for 210 hp. That motor used the 260 timing gears & chain. With a set of 3:55 gears it would pull 5000 in 4th gear. That was past 120 & then some.
Yes a narrow bolt pattern toploader will work. they made two different bolt pattern toploader 4 speed one for the 5 bolt bell housing and one for the 6 bolt.
Show the right side "hi po" head again and the "alignment holes" for the pushrods and the front rocker that's "out of alignment" on the valve stem by at least 1/16th of an inch. That's REAL "hi po", lol.
@pyleup yeah l got burnt buying these heads, was told they were hipo heads like 15 years ago. These have been heavy modified, l think someone has put chevy 202 intake valves in it, screw in studs, brass guides. I got a set of aluminum heads ld rather use. Don't guess these cast iron ones is really worth anything then?
I agree but without the vin stamp all you have is a stock 289 , maybe they have the right part's but the value of the block itself is in the vin stamp. with no stamp you cannot prove it,s a real Hipo.
My understanding is that that is a hydraulic cam that closely resembles the 289 Hipo solid lifter cam it’s A Ford cam released by Ford in 1969 for a 289 , 302 it’s a relatively mild performance cam for the small block Ford
@@normanjones5167 I don't want to get into a comment tug of war, but 65 1/2 exist, I had one and one an won many bets pulling out the pink slip. 1/2 yr productions are not that uncommon.
NIce video, but why didn't you all just buy another original Ford oil pan and chop it to fit and reserve the Shelby Cobra oil pan??? Now that has to decrease the value of that engine IMO.... Man, old Shelby would be turning over in his grave to find out that one of his engine oil pan was chopped to butter and oil Sunbeam bread... WOW
Definition of motor - "a machine, especially one powered by electricity or internal combustion, that supplies motive power for a vehicle or for some other device with moving parts." You fool
Man my old man worked for Ford from 1962-1995 and I have heard him talk about the hipo 289 forever and you got a very correct and complete 289 hipo that is modified by Shelby. Also you can’t show it but it has hatchet rods and a balance tab on crank with a birnell test mark. So original and untouched. Anyone that questions that engine has no knowledge of Ford high performance engines. You even got the hipo water pump cool. It kills me how trolls pick and say they had this or that, when all they ever had was a head full of dreams and lies and empty hands.. you are knowledgeable .
Let's see you get a "balance tab" in a "birnell tester".
Hatchet rods ? Your confused ! They had a hatchet style balance weight slid over the snout of the crank ,the rods were heavier than regular 289 rods due to the larger 3/8 bolts ,same rods were used in the 302 boss !
Regarding the serial number on the lower block above the oil pan...those are only found on California Hipo Mustangs...if your car was manufactured in Detroit the engines are not serialized to a particular car (a guy who owned two Hipo 289's, denoted by the bigger main caps, and neither block had the serial/vin number on the block). Fyi, as to Shelby's claimed 306 BHP...that is spot on. One of my Hipo engines i applied the Shelby mods and it pulled 305 on the dyno.
Smal
Block Chevy, ok. 289 ford, loved them durable, high winding with a good intake and carb, solid lifter cam. Heaven.
Right on!
That little Sunbeam must’ve been great to drive. A bit of a sleeper, so they say.
Nice job, been check'n out HiPos for Shelby friends all way back to before we were old enough to drive! This Seems right-on and the SAAC paperwork documents is always the Gold Standard! Thx share!
That’s soo cool. I’d have to put it back in the Sunbeam and just enjoy it with modern brakes!
Tip! Distributors no vacume adv. And duel points part# C5OE-12127-E , aluminum water pump,C5AZ-8501-K timing cover matches the pump,yes large dampner C5AZ-6513-C also high nodular crank 3/8 rod bolts special rods C5ZZ-6200-A good little motor 😊
Thanks
Outstanding information! Love learning this stuff. Thanks for sharing sir. Cheers from Motown/Deaborn, Home of Detroit Muscle!
Thanks for watching!
Best motor ever
I thought the hi po heads would have bigger valves, and ports besides the spring pockets and the screw in studs. Since this was a solid lifter motor and rated to 6000 rpm it needed those studs
Thanks for the great video. All I can add is the fuel pumps are specific to the k engine. The pumps should be date coded to the engine and be double sprung to provide additional fuel at higher revs.👍
Great point!
Luv 289 HIPO's, cool engine... Always wanted one... I had 289's... If you ask me the 289 was Ford's BEST small block...
Another thing is, the Aluminum Valve Covers had what they call "Hollow Letters" on the "COBRA" part of the cover. Inside the valve cover it says "Buddy Bar" which is the company who cast the covers.. That is what was on my 1965 GT 350 engine.
What you said is pretty true for the 1965 model year for the GT 350 but by 1966 and 67 those valve covers changed
good video. I used to paint my blocks the light early Ford Blue too. One thing you might be aware, and I am speculating, but your passenger side valve cocer is like the one I owned and bought fro Ford in the early 1970s. It has the right grommet for the PVC valve. My driver side valve cover has a push oin oil cap. If you look at replacement valve covers , both valve covers are the driver side only, and uses a screw in oil cap, and a grommet that screws in the cap hole for the PVC valve. I have often speculated why they are doing this? Did the break or loose the original mold for the passenger side valve cover? Also I love your Tiger, I had an Alpine I wanted to convert, but when I owned it, I didn't have the skills to convert. But it is my most favorite car I ever owned, even with it's negaitivities like Lucas wiring, wire rims that would spin in it's axles if not tighened, bad weak rear end, plastic rear window, and the very worse, vapor lock. I always had to park it on a hill to roll start it. The Alpine was notorious for vapor lock. I like that you also have the removable hard top. I didn't know the 289 also had a five bolt similar to the 260. Everyone is putting Coyote engines in their cars, nice to see a old school engine. I follow a Aussie You Tube channel, and they are getting 600 HP out of 289s there.
It is already covered in comments below, but "NOT ALL" HiPo engine blocks got vin#'s stamped on them. While, most if not possibly all 1965-1966 engines are stamped with a vin# there are many original 1967 HiPo engines that did NOT get a vin# stamped on them .... this is particualry true of the later in the year cars. Of course this fact surrounding "missing vin stamps" is documented in the two most authortaive books out there being Shelby America World Registry and "The High Performance Mustang" book by Tom Gregory. However, as well pointed out in this video there are various other clues (all of which in the cumulative) help you dial in on what you are looking at..... LOVE the HiPo's
I agree with you about the Vin stamping on the block and some of those blocks that were not stamped. but I would add I believe the value of the engine is greatly increased with a vin stamping on the side of the block
Thanks! Great information!
I had a set of hipo heads that also had an HP cast under valve cover.
Nice story, info.
@ 12:36 - C5AE-6015 E , the numbers above (6 - 12) help say that is a 1965 Block from the 6th month & the 12th Day of June 65.
You are correct, sir thanks for your comment
I had a k code in a mustang and this was in 74 never touched had a aluminum water pump and it had 3/8 rod bolts and a counter weight on the crankshaft no vacuum advance
Build date on block: 6A12 - January 12th, 1966
You are very correct, sir that’s the one thing I regret when I made this video is to not make the date codes a little bit clearer for everyone being an older guy recording a video and trying to get all this information out is mind-boggling. Sometimes I’m gonna start doing outlines before I do videos, but the guys who know all the date codes are correct.
High performance Ford engines have a stamped VIN that matches the cars they were in. Other Ford engines did not. All 289 Hi-Po engines had solid lifters and adjustable rocker arms.
Yes you are correct
@@pyleup 50+ years as a Ford master level factory certified auto/truck tech, I learned a few things.
Great vid! Thank you!
You bet!
I heard that the timing chain cover was different for K code (so that it doesnt xonflict with the heads), would be cool to see that.
Mine had very tall valve covers in a 67 mustang
Nice original ENGINE
There were different timing gear & chain setups also along with the cover. Not picking a fight but I'm not convinced that just those few changes found that much horsepower w/o a cam change.
The cam change might be a possibility, but I guess that’s one thing that I will never know the motor I had has never been taken apart so I couldn’t measure it to verify. I don’t know if there are any original Shelby guys left alive to confirm this or not.
There is a video of this engine, running on a run stand on my channel. You can listen to it run and decide for yourself. If it sounds like it has a more aggressive cam than the original hipo Cam.
In those days everyone rated their engines under for insurance reasons. I do know a 'D' model engine, early '65, ran extremely good for 210 hp. That motor used the 260 timing gears & chain. With a set of 3:55 gears it would pull 5000 in 4th gear. That was past 120 & then some.
dad built a badass sleeper.... good job dad!!!! hope ya git it goin and dont juat hide it take it out n run it have tons of fun like daddy meant
How wide does that Hi Po harmonic balancer actually measure? I'm looking for a 289 Hi Po. Your help is deeply appreciated!
Sorry I sold it don't have anymore.
I have a 64 hipo with a 3 spd manual. Would u know if the 4 spd top loader will bolt up?
Good vid.
Yes a narrow bolt pattern toploader will work. they made two different bolt pattern toploader 4 speed one for the 5 bolt bell housing and one for the 6 bolt.
@@pyleup
Thank you.
Did the hypos also have slots (instead of holes) for the push rods? And also didn't they have screw-in freeze plugs?
Yes they have slots for the pushrods . No they don't have screw-in freeze plugs. only the Boss 302 had them.
slots , yes . screw plugs are 302 boss only .
ALL YOU HAVE LOOK FOR IS THE FRONT HARMONIC DAPNER IS MUCH WIDER THE THE STOCK DAMPNER THAT IS A289 hp
i just look for the thicker balancer .
Where can I get one of those large harmonic balancer? I’m building a replica Shelby 289 for my mustang and I can’t find one
eBay or an aftermarket reproduction from CJ pony parts
An original one will cost you $500-$800
@@pyleup thanks I’m going to go with a replica
Did Edlebrock ever build & sell crate 289s or 302s?
That I do not know
Show the right side "hi po" head again and the "alignment holes" for the pushrods and the front rocker that's "out of alignment" on the valve stem by at least 1/16th of an inch. That's REAL "hi po", lol.
Ive got a #20 head but no spring pockets, and only 1 dot under 289.
That would be a 2 barrel head
@pyleup yeah l got burnt buying these heads, was told they were hipo heads like 15 years ago. These have been heavy modified, l think someone has put chevy 202 intake valves in it, screw in studs, brass guides. I got a set of aluminum heads ld rather use. Don't guess these cast iron ones is really worth anything then?
You’re better off running the aluminum heads anyway they are a better performance per dollar head every day
Not all had the VIN stamping on block. Dates are just as important
I agree but without the vin stamp all you have is a stock 289 , maybe they have the right part's but the value of the block itself is in the vin stamp. with no stamp you cannot prove it,s a real Hipo.
Lots of things need to match up nut there is not a vin stamp on every hipo. great video by the way. This friendly i promise so smile as we talk
the word nut shopulkd not have been there . sorry
I believe some of the early hipos did not have the stamp. i know not all had the vin stamp
I also have a 1964 289 block with the Big main caps but no vin stamps on it ,so for me it's unknow if it's a Hipo or not.
Does anybody know what car or engine that a Ford C90Z6250C camshaft came in?
My understanding is that that is a hydraulic cam that closely resembles the 289 Hipo solid lifter cam it’s A Ford cam released by Ford in 1969 for a 289 , 302 it’s a relatively mild performance cam for the small block Ford
Are the main caps interchangeable?
Yes but they will need to be line honed to work right.
Didn't the Hi Po have larger rod bolts?
yes 3/8 rod bolts vs 5/16
And spot faced rather than broached bolt head pockets.
Strange, my 64 1/2 Shelby mustang had solid lifters with high lobe cams.
yep it has solid lifters , hard to think about everything in it when your holding the camera and making a video.
@@pyleup That's what I thought, I couldn't see the release nut and lifter set screw.
What’s stranger than that is there was no 64 1/2 Shelby got 350
@@normanjones5167 I don't want to get into a comment tug of war, but 65 1/2 exist, I had one and one an won many bets pulling out the pink slip. 1/2 yr productions are not that uncommon.
In your comment you typed 641/2 not 65 no argument here neither.
Too bad about the original gt350, but man that tiger must have been hot!
Sunbeam tiger was a very fun ride. It was a major part of my life growing up with my dad driving it.
Smallblock
Engine, not motor
HiPer
Back in 70s I had bought a 289 hp for $200 I need you but kicked for getting rid of it
Do you want to sell that mex block??
I would sell it but only local sale don't want to ship it . it's in kansas city $400 .030 over fresh
@@pyleup can you send more pictures to me please you can email me at mustkeith@gmail.com
Thanks
NIce video, but why didn't you all just buy another original Ford oil pan and chop it to fit and reserve the Shelby Cobra oil pan???
Now that has to decrease the value of that engine IMO....
Man, old Shelby would be turning over in his grave to find out that one of his engine oil pan was chopped to butter and oil Sunbeam bread... WOW
I understand your point, but the oil pan was chopped down in 1967 and back then it wasn’t as valuable as it is today.
He needs to say zero instead of O
The 289 hipo should have a 4 bolt block
All 289 Hipo are 2 bolt mains. Only the boss 302 had 4 bolt mains.
@@pyleup yes, you are correct , I got my engines crossed up! Sorry for the mistake
This is a hypo 289 engine. This is not a motor motors are electric
Definition of motor -
"a machine, especially one powered by electricity or internal combustion, that supplies motive power for a vehicle or for some other device with moving parts."
You fool
@@norgepalm7315 oh , wize guy !
Ford Motor Company ???
Just stop
The valve covers are not correct for the motor the valve covers are reproductions.
I have pictures of this motor all the way back to 1967 so sorry I do not believe your statement
And the valve covers have never been changed on this motor
You missed "cast-in pushrod guides"!