Raafie when did you play B2 for the last time? I played it last year and to be honnest Jack is not that great of a vilain. I feel people have nostalgic recollection
I actually like the twins better. Handsome Jack never did anything much for me, but they got a chuckle out of me sometimes and at least I get what they were trying to do there.
It's not, not in my estimate anyway. I'm not going to say that this rises beyond the heights of such comedic genius as Butt Stallion, but its not less funny than that either.
Putting aside the different tastes in humour that people have, I think there are two big factors in play with the humour. 1) The devs have kept the humour at the same level as the previous games and haven't evolved. 2) What people like Mack find funny now has evolved from what it was, so they don't find that older humour funny anymore. That's what I've gathered from what I've seen and read.
It’s the same ass the others to me, most of the games never had me rolling on the floor, but they always would just get a chuckle out of me, although the part with claptrap talking to Ava about his ass had me and my friends dying lol
@SunzOffski Thats BL for ya, I like it.. if it was all good then it wouldnt make the rare stuff exciting. Some commons can actually be really useful too.
@SunzOffski Nah. Only up to lv10, and you can reach that in under 2 hours. You then hit a point where you're kitted with blues and high end greens. At that point you can disregard white and green loot entirely and live off blue loot. After lv30, you can start living on purple only.
@SunzOffski Yeah most of the weapons you find are slightly tweaked versions of your current loadout, I play BL2 with a loot Randomizer it's alot more fun tbh every weapon dropped is interesting not just +1 damage
Great Review. Looks like people are bombarding the steam Borderlands 2 community forum because the Epic store doesn't have that kind of functionality. Posting bugs, complaints and stuff. Shame it wasn't just on steam at launch. I hope it goes on sale eventually on steam and we can get the same sort of mega deal like Borderlands 2 with all the content for cheap.
Will never happen mate, Steam has set a new rule for developers, just before the Borderlands 3 release. It says that if new games come out, the developers have 30 days from the original release date to put it on steam or it will never happen. So no double dipping from the honey pot after a 1 year exclusivity deal.
When you despise epic so much you deprive urself playin a really great game because simply "fuck em" like ya'll are some legitimate children bro, About cancerous as the kid you despise on fortnite
Hey RidZz, there are LEGITIMATE reasons that people avoid EGS. Also, the DRM in this game data-mines your PC in the name of protection. EGS itself is full of security problems. So, you can STFU with the misinformed high horse you're riding.
Marco Ventura Just because you bought the game doesn’t mean you agree with the game. Like wtf that’s such backwards logic that’s like I loved this lobster that you cooked for me because I bought it even though it gave me food poisoning...
Marco Ventura Thing is I actually really like the game. But you saying that people shouldn’t criticize something that they bought is just stupid. You don’t agree with me that’s fine because that’s your opinion. But you need to respect others first. That’s all I’m saying.
@JCmasters100 having women in a game isn't virtue signaling. Lorelei is just a bad character. Not because she is a woman with colored hair, just because she is.
Disagree. Ava was such a shit and pointless character. No character growth or point to her. The ending given to her was an insult to all borderlands fans.
Never paid for a Borderlands game in full, I always waited until the complete edition was on sale. Looks like it’ll be the same for this. Good thing I didn’t preorder.
Papa Bones good job gearbox? Gearbox doesn’t run epic games, and gearbox didn’t even sign on with epic games. The companies responsible for that issue would be 2k and epic.
just to stfu? DUDE I wanted to kill her myself, she was annoying af and if not that fucking brat, maya wouldn't have to die or at least not in such a dumb way. I could use Mack's ring bell right now...
Not a horrible game. If you really hate it just cause its not PC material. Keep in mind its a new release. Epic revealed on the ANNOUNCEMENT of the game. They understand the PC struggle and they are trying to improve it.
@Kyros Droztamyr its a looter shooter game, wtf do u wany? To get everything in 10h gameplay? Warframe is sure not for everyone but its a good damn game, one of the best looter shooters I have played actually.
How is having to go to your direct competitors forums to complain about the issues players are having with the game improving things?? Really i want to fucking know what goes on inside Epic defender/Borderland 3 fans heads. The fact that gearbox had to implement the pre-loading feature themselves something steam and most every other store has access to is a testament to just how much of a fuck Epic and Tencent really give about the "struggle" Wake the fuck up.
They fired the original Claptrap voice actor because he wanted MONEY for his work. What do you know? You fire the original guy and your replacement sucks. Hope that money was worth it Gearbox.
JCmasters100 he did have a couple good lines to his credit. I heard the New-U station say “they could bring anyone back as long as they didn’t die in a cutscene” which made me laugh. But yeah burch was better
@Worth A Buy You CAN actually change vehicle controls. The place for this is just inconvenient: Options > Controller > Driving Scheme select Stick Only!
Worth A Buy yeah the vehicles would actually be my biggest complaint. Then again gearbox themselves admitted they had no clue wtf they were doing with vehicles while this game was in development so at least they were honest about it.
@@beanshady Is there any website or resource on the internet listing all of the timed Epic exclusives? I wish I could track them so I can buy them on Steam...
On PS4 pro game runs perfectly. Absolutely love this game. So damn fun! I agree loot is overwhelming at times but that's Borderlands for you. Great game!
After a while the loot gets boring because you get so much loot, also the story is crap even the DLCs are not that great. And that's not "borderlands for you", B2 was never like that, it had balance.
I think the reason Borderlands 3 isn't nearly as funny as Borderlands 2 is because the lead writer actually left the project after 2 (Anthony Burch). And yeah I get it, "thank God I'm not Anthony Burch" meme and all, but the dude did some great work on the Borderlands franchise, and it's obvious that Gearbox is really struggling to reach the level of writing he brought to the table with Borderlands 2. Then again, that should hardly be surprising, as Gearbox itself has taken a nosedive in recent years and remain a shadow of its former self.
Borderlands 1 and 2 have horrible writing imo. You want good writing? CD Projekt Red and Obsidian. The only well written Borderlands game was made by Telltale. The games worst element once again... just like the 1st two games is the writing, its the same meh writing the series has always had. Thankfully it has improved movement, improved gunplay, it looks better and a sweet new ship/hub feature.
Ahhhhh The rag and bone man. I remember giving away my dad's leather jacket in 1979 and got a balloon and a plastic whistle. And a sore arse off dad when he found out.
@@lukewootton2614 Obviously, I mean, you're not gonna walk around only meleeing - but after a small few hours hours you'll probably have a coupla blue boys so at that point my rule should apply
What's interesting thing is while playing last night, I picked up a few green weapons that had higher stats than the blue I was carrying, and it was at the same level.
@@joeseabreeze I haven't played BL 3 yet so I'm not sure of the reliability of green/grey loot but in 1 and 2 green and grey was nearly always a temporary gun and never a main - certainly not something you need to mull over to the point where you're looking at the stats for EVERY gun unless you're completely obsessive. I hope BL3 is the same because I'll most likely ignore most green and grey loot about 4 hours in to the game.
I think people misunderstand, the comedy in this game isn't an attempt at being hip. Quite the opposite, it's a satire on that. I find it pretty charming.
THAT is the way to go! Most major buggy shit worked out by then, hopefully. Then again, look at GTA V. 5 years later and a bigger heap of modder shit than ever. But there's a casino!!
Yeah the Epic Store is a garbagefire mess and this game doesn't sound like a must have even for a Borderlands fan. I'll just use the 60€ I'd use for this game to buy really affordable games to kill the six months and buy BL3 from a sale on Steam.
@@SmashingSnow there have been slot machines in the game since at least 2, don't remember if the original bl had them. The gun grinder was slightly different (although not that much tbh).
@@SmashingSnow The slot machine as always been there the rewards mostly change. But the gun grinder allowed you to take guns of the same color and make either a similar or higher grade one
You can fix the "steering cars with mouse" issue. Under options > controls, go to the controller options. Yes, even if you are playing with mouse/keyboard, the setting is there. Change "Driving Button Scheme" to Vehicle Relative : Stick Only"
I found the AI in this game to be surprisingly decent and unpredictable. Something I haven't seen in a while in modern games. So well done for that. About the cringe factor, I find it on par with all other Borderlands games. Not more and not less.
Honestly the issues are hit or miss. Apparently some people have had them, I for one have had a flawless experience with only a few drops when loading into a new area.
Mack you can get vehicle steering with wasd and mouse for camera if you change it under controller settings - driving buttonscheme vehicle relative left side -, kinda strange it's under controller settings but it works, even without a controller attached and controller off in the settings
Raiden How could a villain be a Mary Sue? Also while the characters sucked, I somehow got enjoyment out of the fact that the twins slowly started hating each other so that’s great.
Agree about the loot. I've decided to ignore green gun stats and only pick them up if worth selling. Only blue and above guns get examined. Keeps the pace flowing a bit better.
THANK YOU so much for this review. Seriously. I've watched a lot of reviews of the game because I'm thinking of buying it. This review is definitely the best, or at least my favorite. You've convinced me to not buy this game. Thank you sir!
@@ryanscottnix Plenty of people buy games years after release and often if they do watch content like this before deciding. Just like people watch content like this years after the game released and even comment ;)
@@theflyingdutchman1301 I was simply asking of he liked the game. The "2 years later" part of my comment refers to the fact that I'm replying to his comment 2 years after he made it.
@@theflyingdutchman1301 You're 100% right, and I misread the original post. What a shame, though... Mack did recommend it in the end, and BL3 is a great game!
Please include performance optimization (PC specifically) as part of the review and final thoughts. Because some games might be fun but due to terrible optimization, it won't run smoothly on most of the systems.
Or just use an Xbox. I feel like I am getting early access or something because while everyone’s pc is crashing, my old model of Xbox one is somehow running beautifully. I guess people just hate consoles nowadays?
Nice review. I agree the Calypso twins aren't great but at 10 hours in I didn't find too many of the characters annoying. Lilith, Ellie, Vaughn, Rhys, Katagawa & Zero I'm really enjoying and don't think their badly written or annoying. Sure I few are but not enough yet that I think it's work mentioning. And man there are a LOT of mini bosses and normal bosses, holy crap even side quests lead to boss fights. Really loving the game so far.
Yep this is it. Ofc when you get more of the same thing your gonna think it's cringy especially with Borderlands story/jokes, it always has been. I think that mack is too hard on games as a whole, none of them are perfect of course, but i think we need to just chill and enjoy the stuff we have.
I don't really agree with the loot part in the beginning of the video, that's the main part of the game, there are literally ammo shops scattered throughout every map that you can sell your guns at. I have never went back to sanctuary to sell anything , unless i was there for a mission turn in already or to buy sdu upgrades. Just seems like a minuscule thing to have a gripe with when loot is main focus of the game. You can't review an rpg and then say it had too much rpg features in it. I think you see all the loot on the ground and are thinking it's like other games where the grey could be an upgrade, after a certain point you'll mostly focus on purples and yellow tier items awith the occasional blue item being really good. The rest is trash, it's one of the downsides of having the kind of system they have with the massive amount of guns, but i would much rather borderlands with it than without it as it's one of the main differences between it and other games that have such lackluster weapons most of the time.
Supple ZombieKitten the villains just aren’t good. The maliwan ceo actually was a better villain because he was a creepy stalker guy, they should have just gone with him. I honesty think the story suffers from underwhelming villains heavily.
@@carrier2823 After 100 hrs the story do not matter and from what I see so far it is a game for at least 500+hrs, and hopefully the story will be better in story DLCs.
@@KatalistProductionsKozzySasha Telltale game was the only one that I was not able to complete due to falling asleep during gameplay out of boredom. But is was kind of funny when I was awake but lacked engagement factor. I am kind of happy that I was sensible enough to refunded it before my 2hr passed and proceeded with downloaded free version. There are not many games that put me asleep but Telltale games manage it quite easily. Even so seemingly boring game like Factorio can keep me awake all night until the rising sun reminds me that I should rest a bit.
@@carrier2823 Ya know, that's not a half bad idea. I wouldn't have minded if they had Maliwan's CEO take over as the true main villain, esp. considering how annoyingly exaggerated the Calypso twins are (but only if they segwayed it properly and wrote it well. Though, all things considered about BL3's main plot, that's asking more than they are capable of.)
Good review lad. I myself have completed the story and am having great fun smashing through the side quests and new game+ mode. Had only a few little bugs, none that stuffed my experience up but by god they need to patch out the sound effects when you or the enemy get an elemental damage effect, shit annoying. All in all had a great time with the title.
Might pick this up when it goes on Steam. I did enjoy BL 1 and 2 but it drags after a bit, even with some pretty cool gunplay and classes. Plus by waiting they should have at least some of the issues patched.
I live near newcastle and it sounds quite softer than Geordie. If he is it sounds alot different to the accent I've heard. It reminds me so much of Boro and the south of Durham. No matter what I like it
What he means is the amount of loot is overwhelming. It's sensory overload. You can't know how a gun handles until you actually equip them. You spend too much time trying to manage your inventory while your OCD will constantly keep wondering if this gun with 10 point higher item score is actually better. And blues and purples drop every damn minute that it's just impossible to get anything done because you're ALWAYS comparing stuff. On the flip side, this means the end game will have extreme longevity but when you're moving through the campaign, it gets overwhelming. Now that I'm in end game and taking my time doing side quests and hunts, I'm having a great time. I know he sounds contradictory but after playing through this game, even as a diehard Borderlands fan, I can totally relate to what he's saying. I wouldn't be upset if they toned back the loot drops a bit, and think it would actually help with the sensory overload part but won't die on that fence.
The loot system; how you acquire and store it is pretty horrid, not to mention the exploits that occurred with it and the overwhelming nature of their acquisition. The guns are very creative, interesting, fun to use and great visually as well. These are two different things - how you thought they are the same just does to show how very little you "gamers" know about games.
@@rogerzheng2814 I agree with you partly. I am ignoring greens and blues, but the bigger problem is that often the stats aren't THAT different. I still don't understand the item score. I know how it works, but I'll have a green gun with ALL better stats than another that's 20 points higher, and the green one is just better all around. The bigger issue is you just can't know at all about an item til you shoot it. If a pistol has charge to shoot, it's essentially worthless to me even if it's a purple or legendary. This in no way makes me hate the game, and I could live with this for BL3, I just think it's a natural negative side effect when you're creating such a complex procedural loot system in this manner.
@@botterminator I understood, I just wasn't sure because it sounded kind of hypocritical that he started praising guns right after denouncing the loot system, which is probably mostly guns (if its anything like Borderlands 2)
The NPC's became unfunny because it's 2019 - they are not allowed to offend anyone therefore the jokes are weak at most of the time. This game got woke. 90% of the characters you meet in the story are females and Sir Hammerlock is now a homosexual because, yeah...it's so important lorewise to mention that you know...
@Lucas Gore I love Borderlands humour because it's just stupid humour which is still my favourite type of humour to this day (I'm 30) but some of the jokes in 3 are truly cringeworthy even for me to handle. I have to agree the game and actual gameplay is still a 10/10.
Man scooter and his misfortunes with love remember that one chick shot herself in the head after you had take picture in thousand cuts for his shit poem. *sigh* good times. Oh yeah Face Mcshooty I remember shooting him the face.
Very late to the party because just getting around to BL3 now. The vehicles steering controls can be changed to WASD with independent mouse firing but you have to change a setting in the GAMEPAD options to 'Vechicle relative : left side'. It's mind boggling, yes, but vehicle controls are great with M+K once you do this. Almost as good as Mad Mad on K+M now.
After what 2k did to submatto and the invasiveness of denuvo in the game being so bad that it's lagging some people's internet, they could give this game away and i wouldn't play it.
The car controls can be changed to steer with WASD and aim with mouse, it's just in a really dumb place. In the controller options. Why is it in the controller options when it changes game mechanics for the keyboard & mouse too? But i'm still liking the game.
Question what is your opinion of Epic gaming's store?? I am wanting to buy "surviving the aftermath" but I was going to wait for it to be sold on steam and borderlands 3.
Currently playing in split screen mode. Very laggy when in the menu. Smaller text and less granular video configuration. Definitely slower performance compared to the predecessor games. Bummer!!
@@TheBlackswanwhite Because I choose not to. I don't like Epic's underlying practices, the company just seems off to me. On top of it, I've been using Steam for years and have accumulated a library of over 380 games, so having multiple programs just to switch between games is tedious and needless, thus downloading the Epic launcher is not something I want to do.
I'm thinking of buying the base game on my base ps4. But I am afraid of the performance both solo and coop (online)...Have they optimized the game for the base ps4? Does the framerate drop/stutter or drop below 30 for base ps4? Will it perform worse than 30fps online/coop or does multiplayer have the same framerate and performance as solo?? Are there any people still playing coop online for you to matchmake with? Or will it be deserted like BL2 trying to matchmake? Out of the season passes is season pass 1 better than season pass 2? I heard pass 1 has more in game content while pass 2 gives a new skill tree and less content... Right now, the base game on sale is 20$ (on ps store) while season pass 1 is 16$ and pass 2 is 20$...The ultimate edition is 50$ which includes both passes with the base game. So I'm not saving any money by not buying the DLC
Anyone reading this. You can change the control scheme for cars so it controls left and right with A D. Go into controller settings and set the driving input to standard left. Had to contact support since they didn't bother to note this shit anywhere or to not make the most retarded possible controls scheme as standard.
Thanks for your honest review Mack. I haven't seen anyone talk about the lack of key-rebinding and the low brow humour. Glad to know it's not worth buying based on their low shelf target demographic. I'm not surprised, as it has been years since a borderlands game was last made.
How did you find the path finding with the AI when they walk through narrow walkways? I found they come to a complete stop to turn and takes about 2 seconds to continue their walk
Was going to buy this now on sale then remember you cant bind keys. Thats my biggest gripe. A shooter out of all things should have the ability to change key binds.
Borderlands is like Half-Life games in that you can get rolling and play without having to learn dozens of menus, potions, tuck-n-rolls, craftings etc. Get your gun and go. The health and class mods just work themselves out along the way. I like some menu heavy games but its nice to just play without needing to be a menu jockey
I've gone back and played borderlands 1/2 and I was surprised at how much of the dialogue really seemed aimed at young teens. I'm not surprised by the level of humor in this game I'm just sad I've fallen out of the target demographic. My coworker is 20 and he can't stop talking about how funny the characters are.
Mac, top tip with Moze against bosses, she has this skill where the more you empty your mag the more damage you do, so for bosses get a nice Tourge shotgun, switch to sticky instead of impact, unload your entire mag onto the bosses face then reload and watch the bosses health just drain down hahahaha Also great review as always :)
couple of things.. there are vending machines in every single map so there is 0 reason to go to Sanctuary to sell your loot mid-map, granted the machines are placed pretty badly so you need to run through the map to get back to where you fast traveled to the machines from and the loot overwhelming you, well thats just you..
After being a dragass for 6 months, I finally got the game last night. I agree with you wholeheartedly on the amount of loot. I'm only level 7, and I'm already leaving blues, debating on purples, and considering selling my first and only legendary (TK's Wave). I'm both happy AND sad. There is something both awesome and cheapening about getting non-legendaries all the frigging time that do the cool stuff legendaries in past games did. I dunno if it's just me having spent an inordinate amount of time with BL1 & 2, but I feel the need to stay unattached to my gear.
Me and my wfie both enjoying this game a lot. Some good jokes, some bad jokes, great gameplay. Maya and Ava or Aya or whatever the little crazy girl is called are annoying as hell tho. I would pay more to have the option to mute that girl...
The game is fun but imo it's trying too hard to be: funny, original and diverse.
Also nothing will ever be as epic and evil as Handsome Jack.
Raafie when did you play B2 for the last time? I played it last year and to be honnest Jack is not that great of a vilain. I feel people have nostalgic recollection
@@alexanabolic5099 played it again when they released the free dlc awaiting BL3.
Raafie well it may be my taste then, not saying vilains of B3 are better, but Jack was just ok for me
@@alexanabolic5099 to each their own :)
I actually like the twins better. Handsome Jack never did anything much for me, but they got a chuckle out of me sometimes and at least I get what they were trying to do there.
Not being able to bind all your keys in a PC title (nevertheless a AAA one) should be considered a crime against nature.
Either way..I don't use the default settings, I add some keys on my mouse especially my load out on it.
First world problems at their best amirite
You obviously never suffered in any meaningful way. The crime against nature is your comment.
@@rdm0108
The light shining off your solid white armor is rather blinding, Mr. Knight.
Hey at least there's a FOV slider! xD
Personally I never found either of the previous borderlands funny, so the fact that this is somehow less funny is worrying.
It's not, not in my estimate anyway. I'm not going to say that this rises beyond the heights of such comedic genius as Butt Stallion, but its not less funny than that either.
What do you find funny? Like genuine question. Comedians? I cried of laughter several times from BL2
You prob the kind of guy who finds Joe Brand funny then 😂😂😂
Putting aside the different tastes in humour that people have, I think there are two big factors in play with the humour. 1) The devs have kept the humour at the same level as the previous games and haven't evolved. 2) What people like Mack find funny now has evolved from what it was, so they don't find that older humour funny anymore.
That's what I've gathered from what I've seen and read.
It’s the same ass the others to me, most of the games never had me rolling on the floor, but they always would just get a chuckle out of me, although the part with claptrap talking to Ava about his ass had me and my friends dying lol
Borderlands 3 as funny as a kick in the Bollocks lmao!
i dunno. even watching someone else take a clean shot to the nuts hurts me.
Testicular tortion is way worse
@@toga20000 damn i havent thought about TT for years.
@@jordanduran1726 yeah man doctor said its as close to labor pains as it gets. High five for surviving that lol i puked it was so painful
Depends on who's giving the kicking.
Complains about excessive loot in BL..
Minutes later: I can't wait to find the next exciting gun so I loot everything.
LOL I heard the same thing XD ...
Lol.
@SunzOffski Thats BL for ya, I like it.. if it was all good then it wouldnt make the rare stuff exciting. Some commons can actually be really useful too.
@SunzOffski Nah. Only up to lv10, and you can reach that in under 2 hours. You then hit a point where you're kitted with blues and high end greens. At that point you can disregard white and green loot entirely and live off blue loot. After lv30, you can start living on purple only.
@SunzOffski Yeah most of the weapons you find are slightly tweaked versions of your current loadout, I play BL2 with a loot Randomizer it's alot more fun tbh every weapon dropped is interesting not just +1 damage
Why did Anthem fail?
Because all the loot on that game ended up in Borderlands 3
*slow clap*
If key binding gets worse, I might have to start build keyboard firmwares.
Be honest, you won't. Tehe
salvete
Massdrop ctrl keyboard has online firmware generation tool.
@Tobias Schmidt i concur and would also foot the price for software like that.
Just get a razer tartarus for your left hand. It has 20 keys you can bind to whatever keypress you like.
Google Autohotkey (AHK) and you will never go back 😉
AHK has saved many game titles for sure!
They didn’t lie when they said, “Over one billion guns!”
Great Review. Looks like people are bombarding the steam Borderlands 2 community forum because the Epic store doesn't have that kind of functionality. Posting bugs, complaints and stuff. Shame it wasn't just on steam at launch. I hope it goes on sale eventually on steam and we can get the same sort of mega deal like Borderlands 2 with all the content for cheap.
How ironic,steam shouldn't have allowed that lmao.
The deal for bl2 won't happen for bl3 for a year or two I think. Could be wrong though
Every game on steam gets a huge disc eventually
@@Centrioless true
Will never happen mate, Steam has set a new rule for developers, just before the Borderlands 3 release. It says that if new games come out, the developers have 30 days from the original release date to put it on steam or it will never happen. So no double dipping from the honey pot after a 1 year exclusivity deal.
this'll be nice in a year when it comes to steam
It will be even better in 2 years once they have finished all the DLC bullshit and you can just buy it all in a game of the year bundle.
@@Dennoire I doubt they will wait a year for it to come to steam and only THEN start making DLC. All the DLC will be out by the time it comes to steam
@@venomtailOG Comes to steam in 6 months.
When you despise epic so much you deprive urself playin a really great game because simply "fuck em" like ya'll are some legitimate children bro, About cancerous as the kid you despise on fortnite
Hey RidZz, there are LEGITIMATE reasons that people avoid EGS. Also, the DRM in this game data-mines your PC in the name of protection. EGS itself is full of security problems. So, you can STFU with the misinformed high horse you're riding.
Lorelei was honestly the worst character I’ve ever seen in any form of entertainment, utter cringe fest that woman was.
Marco Ventura Just because you bought the game doesn’t mean you agree with the game. Like wtf that’s such backwards logic that’s like I loved this lobster that you cooked for me because I bought it even though it gave me food poisoning...
Kyros Droztamyr Oh no! Women?? What are we going to do? What are we going to do?!?!?!
Marco Ventura Thing is I actually really like the game. But you saying that people shouldn’t criticize something that they bought is just stupid. You don’t agree with me that’s fine because that’s your opinion. But you need to respect others first. That’s all I’m saying.
@JCmasters100 having women in a game isn't virtue signaling. Lorelei is just a bad character. Not because she is a woman with colored hair, just because she is.
Disagree. Ava was such a shit and pointless character. No character growth or point to her. The ending given to her was an insult to all borderlands fans.
Never paid for a Borderlands game in full, I always waited until the complete edition was on sale.
Looks like it’ll be the same for this. Good thing I didn’t preorder.
Epic exclusivity and the cloud saves don't work. Won't be touching it with a 10 foot pole.
Not only don't work, deleting your saved game, good job gearbox.
@@papabones8753 Look at it EAs way it's a "Suprise new game"
@@David-ni1pg it's not a bug it's a feature
Papa Bones good job gearbox? Gearbox doesn’t run epic games, and gearbox didn’t even sign on with epic games. The companies responsible for that issue would be 2k and epic.
I'm about 20 hours into the game already
but who on earth skips a Mack video? Not me.
F*****G Tubular Dude I’m in the same boat XD
I just finished green hell and i want him to review it again because it has story mode now and its amazing
I agree about some of the characters..I just want Ava to stfu in the game lol
just to stfu? DUDE I wanted to kill her myself, she was annoying af and if not that fucking brat, maya wouldn't have to die or at least not in such a dumb way. I could use Mack's ring bell right now...
Hey, Mack actually liked a Looter shooter, i might get it no-
>Epic Exclusive
>Gearbox/Randy Bitchford
Back to Warframe it is.
@Kyros Droztamyr Both are terrible but hey, at least one is free.
Not a horrible game. If you really hate it just cause its not PC material. Keep in mind its a new release. Epic revealed on the ANNOUNCEMENT of the game. They understand the PC struggle and they are trying to improve it.
@Kyros Droztamyr its a looter shooter game, wtf do u wany? To get everything in 10h gameplay? Warframe is sure not for everyone but its a good damn game, one of the best looter shooters I have played actually.
How is having to go to your direct competitors forums to complain about the issues players are having with the game improving things?? Really i want to fucking know what goes on inside Epic defender/Borderland 3 fans heads. The fact that gearbox had to implement the pre-loading feature themselves something steam and most every other store has access to is a testament to just how much of a fuck Epic and Tencent really give about the "struggle" Wake the fuck up.
Warframe..... word!
They fired the original Claptrap voice actor because he wanted MONEY for his work.
What do you know? You fire the original guy and your replacement sucks.
Hope that money was worth it Gearbox.
@JCmasters100 SMH
@LifeBeginsWithChrist he was
Technically they refused to renew his contract, semantics though pretty much the same thing. Really scummy thing to do
He didn’t ask for money, he just was having a falling out with pitchford so they cut him loose.
JCmasters100 he did have a couple good lines to his credit. I heard the New-U station say “they could bring anyone back as long as they didn’t die in a cutscene” which made me laugh. But yeah burch was better
@Worth A Buy You CAN actually change vehicle controls. The place for this is just inconvenient:
Options > Controller > Driving Scheme select Stick Only!
When I did this it actually rebound all my driving keys, it's a cluster fuck
Worth A Buy yeah the vehicles would actually be my biggest complaint. Then again gearbox themselves admitted they had no clue wtf they were doing with vehicles while this game was in development so at least they were honest about it.
gonna wait for the stream release, epic is not getting any money from me.
Same here. They'll probably fix a lot of issues by then as well. I have plenty of games to hold me over until Borderlands 3 is finally on steam.
Amen. I can’t wait to play outer wilds once it’s on steam
Yeah same here
same
@@beanshady Is there any website or resource on the internet listing all of the timed Epic exclusives? I wish I could track them so I can buy them on Steam...
On PS4 pro game runs perfectly. Absolutely love this game. So damn fun! I agree loot is overwhelming at times but that's Borderlands for you. Great game!
grundged yeah completely agree. I play on Xbox and have not had any issues at all. For me at least the game is really well done
After a while the loot gets boring because you get so much loot, also the story is crap even the DLCs are not that great. And that's not "borderlands for you", B2 was never like that, it had balance.
I think the reason Borderlands 3 isn't nearly as funny as Borderlands 2 is because the lead writer actually left the project after 2 (Anthony Burch). And yeah I get it, "thank God I'm not Anthony Burch" meme and all, but the dude did some great work on the Borderlands franchise, and it's obvious that Gearbox is really struggling to reach the level of writing he brought to the table with Borderlands 2.
Then again, that should hardly be surprising, as Gearbox itself has taken a nosedive in recent years and remain a shadow of its former self.
Borderlands 1 and 2 have horrible writing imo. You want good writing? CD Projekt Red and Obsidian. The only well written Borderlands game was made by Telltale. The games worst element once again... just like the 1st two games is the writing, its the same meh writing the series has always had. Thankfully it has improved movement, improved gunplay, it looks better and a sweet new ship/hub feature.
Ahhhhh The rag and bone man. I remember giving away my dad's leather jacket in 1979 and got a balloon and a plastic whistle. And a sore arse off dad when he found out.
My rule for Borderlands looting - if it's green or grey; turn away
Yer Da unless it’s the start of the game lol
@@lukewootton2614 Obviously, I mean, you're not gonna walk around only meleeing - but after a small few hours hours you'll probably have a coupla blue boys so at that point my rule should apply
What's interesting thing is while playing last night, I picked up a few green weapons that had higher stats than the blue I was carrying, and it was at the same level.
@@joeseabreeze I haven't played BL 3 yet so I'm not sure of the reliability of green/grey loot but in 1 and 2 green and grey was nearly always a temporary gun and never a main - certainly not something you need to mull over to the point where you're looking at the stats for EVERY gun unless you're completely obsessive. I hope BL3 is the same because I'll most likely ignore most green and grey loot about 4 hours in to the game.
You are cute.. just pick purple and legendary. But im in end game
Its Free and I was like "I can't remember if it was worth a buy?"
If you love a gun, give it to one of your other characters you'll end up playing. That's what I do
I used to do that when my PC broke and I had to play bl2 on ps3
Isn’t the point of claptrap to be a pain in the ass? I’m enjoying the battles which are tough.
I've not played this one but I know the guy who voiced him had a fall out with the company so I'm guessing that's why people don't like him now
Claptrap was always a pain in the ass. In 2 he even had lines mocking you about how annoying he is and that you couldn't do anything about it.
Another Honest review . Unlike most Streamers these days . Corporate .
I think people misunderstand, the comedy in this game isn't an attempt at being hip. Quite the opposite, it's a satire on that. I find it pretty charming.
Hmm might pick this up in the steam sales next summer for 7.99
THAT is the way to go! Most major buggy shit worked out by then, hopefully. Then again, look at GTA V. 5 years later and a bigger heap of modder shit than ever. But there's a casino!!
Yeah the Epic Store is a garbagefire mess and this game doesn't sound like a must have even for a Borderlands fan.
I'll just use the 60€ I'd use for this game to buy really affordable games to kill the six months and buy BL3 from a sale on Steam.
Gotta be said that their cel shading/art this time around is really great.
I agree. The graphics and artwork are really nice in this game
I somewhat disagree. It adds to the childish look to the game. However, the textures have undoubtedly gotten more clearer.
Nice review Mac, best UK reviewer out there
he's also a great lay ;)
Literally, always go back to watch all your reviews, hope you are doing better :) best, Leon
All these guns and they refuse to keep the awesome idea of the gun grinder from presequal
Didn't they change it to a slot machine?
@@SmashingSnow there have been slot machines in the game since at least 2, don't remember if the original bl had them. The gun grinder was slightly different (although not that much tbh).
@@hannessteffenhagen61 That's true just thought they added the weaponizer or whatever it is called from the website into the game
@@SmashingSnow The slot machine as always been there the rewards mostly change. But the gun grinder allowed you to take guns of the same color and make either a similar or higher grade one
@@cephalonplant4087 Oh yeah I forgot about that. I never really used it in pre sequel. Sad to hear it isn't in bl3
You can fix the "steering cars with mouse" issue. Under options > controls, go to the controller options. Yes, even if you are playing with mouse/keyboard, the setting is there. Change "Driving Button Scheme" to Vehicle Relative : Stick Only"
This man is the borderlands 4 villain
I found the AI in this game to be surprisingly decent and unpredictable. Something I haven't seen in a while in modern games. So well done for that.
About the cringe factor, I find it on par with all other Borderlands games. Not more and not less.
I like how he zoomed in and moxeys chest at the end
I love the ending shot (the zoom) of the video :)
Well done, i knew this review had something for everyone!
The way 2K manipulated the day 1 reviews for this so no-one knew of the issues was sickening.
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... and now try again with correct comma placement. That's what's sickening indeed: your lower grades orthography.
I am just so shaken up over your missing comma, I am quite beside myself indeed. I give your comment a B-.
Honestly the issues are hit or miss. Apparently some people have had them, I for one have had a flawless experience with only a few drops when loading into a new area.
Millwaterj the people who have them are the idiots who actually used the epic store. Just use a damn console
Mack you can get vehicle steering with wasd and mouse for camera if you change it under controller settings - driving buttonscheme vehicle relative left side -, kinda strange it's under controller settings but it works, even without a controller attached and controller off in the settings
It looks nice, but I just can't deal with the characters.
Borderlands has always had ear grating writing
This guy makes it sound worse than it is its not all that bad. If you dont pay too much notice to it you wont even realize
Raiden How could a villain be a Mary Sue? Also while the characters sucked, I somehow got enjoyment out of the fact that the twins slowly started hating each other so that’s great.
братишка yes but this game cranked the shit writing up to 11
Raiden I mean the main cast couldn’t beat jack either, I mean Lilith could’ve just blown his spaceship up or something.
Agree about the loot. I've decided to ignore green gun stats and only pick them up if worth selling. Only blue and above guns get examined. Keeps the pace flowing a bit better.
THANK YOU so much for this review. Seriously. I've watched a lot of reviews of the game because I'm thinking of buying it. This review is definitely the best, or at least my favorite. You've convinced me to not buy this game. Thank you sir!
2 years later. Did you enjoy it?
@@ryanscottnix Plenty of people buy games years after release and often if they do watch content like this before deciding. Just like people watch content like this years after the game released and even comment ;)
@@theflyingdutchman1301 I was simply asking of he liked the game. The "2 years later" part of my comment refers to the fact that I'm replying to his comment 2 years after he made it.
@@ryanscottnix Well he said "You've convinced me to not buy this game."
@@theflyingdutchman1301 You're 100% right, and I misread the original post. What a shame, though... Mack did recommend it in the end, and BL3 is a great game!
Please include performance optimization (PC specifically) as part of the review and final thoughts. Because some games might be fun but due to terrible optimization, it won't run smoothly on most of the systems.
Thanks for the review, will wait for a Steam release then.
smart decision my man
Or just use an Xbox. I feel like I am getting early access or something because while everyone’s pc is crashing, my old model of Xbox one is somehow running beautifully. I guess people just hate consoles nowadays?
Nice review. I agree the Calypso twins aren't great but at 10 hours in I didn't find too many of the characters annoying. Lilith, Ellie, Vaughn, Rhys, Katagawa & Zero I'm really enjoying and don't think their badly written or annoying. Sure I few are but not enough yet that I think it's work mentioning. And man there are a LOT of mini bosses and normal bosses, holy crap even side quests lead to boss fights. Really loving the game so far.
Is Borderlands 3 not as funny as the others because since we played the first two games we've grown up?
I will never grow up
Mack was already an old man when the first two came out ;)
@@WorthABuyreviews Stop saying that dad..
No
Yep this is it. Ofc when you get more of the same thing your gonna think it's cringy especially with Borderlands story/jokes, it always has been. I think that mack is too hard on games as a whole, none of them are perfect of course, but i think we need to just chill and enjoy the stuff we have.
I love your reviews. Thorough and funny. Great stuff your accent and wordplay are great. Entertaining reviews. Top-Notch.
I don't really agree with the loot part in the beginning of the video, that's the main part of the game, there are literally ammo shops scattered throughout every map that you can sell your guns at. I have never went back to sanctuary to sell anything , unless i was there for a mission turn in already or to buy sdu upgrades. Just seems like a minuscule thing to have a gripe with when loot is main focus of the game. You can't review an rpg and then say it had too much rpg features in it.
I think you see all the loot on the ground and are thinking it's like other games where the grey could be an upgrade, after a certain point you'll mostly focus on purples and yellow tier items awith the occasional blue item being really good. The rest is trash, it's one of the downsides of having the kind of system they have with the massive amount of guns, but i would much rather borderlands with it than without it as it's one of the main differences between it and other games that have such lackluster weapons most of the time.
Exactly, you are not suposed to loot everything and go sell it hahaha. He may have a loot disorder hahaha.
I think his point was very clear, there's too much loot. That's it. That doesn't mean loot is bad. Listen!
Looter shooter- we have loads of guns
WotrthaBuy- TOO MUCH LOOT
I'll wait until it's actually out, complete and on sale.
For me loot is ok. Story is ok but less funny and engaging then BL2 and TPS.
Supple ZombieKitten the villains just aren’t good. The maliwan ceo actually was a better villain because he was a creepy stalker guy, they should have just gone with him. I honesty think the story suffers from underwhelming villains heavily.
@@carrier2823 After 100 hrs the story do not matter and from what I see so far it is a game for at least 500+hrs, and hopefully the story will be better in story DLCs.
Borderlands made by Gearbox has never been funny. Telltale made the only funny and well written Borderlands game imo.
@@KatalistProductionsKozzySasha Telltale game was the only one that I was not able to complete due to falling asleep during gameplay out of boredom. But is was kind of funny when I was awake but lacked engagement factor.
I am kind of happy that I was sensible enough to refunded it before my 2hr passed and proceeded with downloaded free version.
There are not many games that put me asleep but Telltale games manage it quite easily. Even so seemingly boring game like Factorio can keep me awake all night until the rising sun reminds me that I should rest a bit.
@@carrier2823 Ya know, that's not a half bad idea. I wouldn't have minded if they had Maliwan's CEO take over as the true main villain, esp. considering how annoyingly exaggerated the Calypso twins are (but only if they segwayed it properly and wrote it well. Though, all things considered about BL3's main plot, that's asking more than they are capable of.)
If Claptrap's dialogue makes you want to destroy him, then it's working as intended.
making your characters annoying on purpose doesn't make it any better
I'm spending way to much time in Moxies bar on the fruit machines lol
iMediaShark I hate this guys review
Shy baby Groot ehh I could take it or leave it. He ignores a lot of the positives that come with this game
Better to gamble with in game money than with real money
Sloot machines
Well the fact that you want to kill claptrap...
That's quite normal everyone hated claptrap, that's BL
Good review lad. I myself have completed the story and am having great fun smashing through the side quests and new game+ mode. Had only a few little bugs, none that stuffed my experience up but by god they need to patch out the sound effects when you or the enemy get an elemental damage effect, shit annoying. All in all had a great time with the title.
It's a shame the game only comes out next year in april :( good thing you got early access Mack!
Lololol this a joke yeah?
Heads up, you can adjust the car controls to not be steered by the mouse. It's in the controller tab
It looks like the other two games. Am I the only one that doesn't find these games exciting?
Anthony Ricci I love them all, but no in assuming you aren’t. I used to play mmorpgs so I love loot and progression.
Tbh I got so burnt out on borderlands 2 I have no desire to ever play another
BL3 just got released on Steam with 50% off. I'm only considering the base game only. Thoughts?
Might pick this up when it goes on Steam. I did enjoy BL 1 and 2 but it drags after a bit, even with some pretty cool gunplay and classes. Plus by waiting they should have at least some of the issues patched.
What's his accent. I feel like its southern county Durham or maybe Middlesborough/ Cleveland region
Byker grove land I think.
I live near newcastle and it sounds quite softer than Geordie. If he is it sounds alot different to the accent I've heard.
It reminds me so much of Boro and the south of Durham. No matter what I like it
Mack's from Durham
@@xMTxcameron I thought so. I am from Durham myself originally live in Blyth now
"Loot is awful"
later...
"I love the guns"
Me: Uhhh, ok then?
What he means is the amount of loot is overwhelming. It's sensory overload. You can't know how a gun handles until you actually equip them. You spend too much time trying to manage your inventory while your OCD will constantly keep wondering if this gun with 10 point higher item score is actually better. And blues and purples drop every damn minute that it's just impossible to get anything done because you're ALWAYS comparing stuff.
On the flip side, this means the end game will have extreme longevity but when you're moving through the campaign, it gets overwhelming. Now that I'm in end game and taking my time doing side quests and hunts, I'm having a great time.
I know he sounds contradictory but after playing through this game, even as a diehard Borderlands fan, I can totally relate to what he's saying. I wouldn't be upset if they toned back the loot drops a bit, and think it would actually help with the sensory overload part but won't die on that fence.
@@brett84c for borderlands you have to learn to ignore loot; green guns just get ignored; this is same in 1 2 and the presequel, still good for 3
The loot system; how you acquire and store it is pretty horrid, not to mention the exploits that occurred with it and the overwhelming nature of their acquisition.
The guns are very creative, interesting, fun to use and great visually as well.
These are two different things - how you thought they are the same just does to show how very little you "gamers" know about games.
@@rogerzheng2814 I agree with you partly. I am ignoring greens and blues, but the bigger problem is that often the stats aren't THAT different. I still don't understand the item score. I know how it works, but I'll have a green gun with ALL better stats than another that's 20 points higher, and the green one is just better all around.
The bigger issue is you just can't know at all about an item til you shoot it. If a pistol has charge to shoot, it's essentially worthless to me even if it's a purple or legendary.
This in no way makes me hate the game, and I could live with this for BL3, I just think it's a natural negative side effect when you're creating such a complex procedural loot system in this manner.
@@botterminator I understood, I just wasn't sure because it sounded kind of hypocritical that he started praising guns right after denouncing the loot system, which is probably mostly guns (if its anything like Borderlands 2)
FYI Free on Epic Games store. Must claim before May 26th.
The NPC's became unfunny because it's 2019 - they are not allowed to offend anyone therefore the jokes are weak at most of the time. This game got woke. 90% of the characters you meet in the story are females and Sir Hammerlock is now a homosexual because, yeah...it's so important lorewise to mention that you know...
@Lucas Gore I love Borderlands humour because it's just stupid humour which is still my favourite type of humour to this day (I'm 30) but some of the jokes in 3 are truly cringeworthy even for me to handle. I have to agree the game and actual gameplay is still a 10/10.
Your reviews are always so refreshingly honest!
When did people say borderlands 2 was funny? The only times I laughed was from Torgue and Tina in that game
Man scooter and his misfortunes with love remember that one chick shot herself in the head after you had take picture in thousand cuts for his shit poem. *sigh* good times. Oh yeah Face Mcshooty I remember shooting him the face.
@@kylerleader5201 exacly its not supposed to be funny but entusiastic cuz they all scream and say random shit that really entusiasts
Very late to the party because just getting around to BL3 now. The vehicles steering controls can be changed to WASD with independent mouse firing but you have to change a setting in the GAMEPAD options to 'Vechicle relative : left side'. It's mind boggling, yes, but vehicle controls are great with M+K once you do this. Almost as good as Mad Mad on K+M now.
After what 2k did to submatto and the invasiveness of denuvo in the game being so bad that it's lagging some people's internet, they could give this game away and i wouldn't play it.
The car controls can be changed to steer with WASD and aim with mouse, it's just in a really dumb place. In the controller options. Why is it in the controller options when it changes game mechanics for the keyboard & mouse too? But i'm still liking the game.
Hey Mac great review as always.
I thought I heard you say you were gonna review WoW Classic and was wondering when that review is coming out.
Does classic need one?
Question what is your opinion of Epic gaming's store?? I am wanting to buy "surviving the aftermath" but I was going to wait for it to be sold on steam and borderlands 3.
I remember the first game having midgets. Are they still an enemy? Or is that not progressive enough?
They are called "tinks" now.
They are called little people now.
no more midgets, but the game is full of assholes like you.
Currently playing in split screen mode. Very laggy when in the menu. Smaller text and less granular video configuration. Definitely slower performance compared to the predecessor games. Bummer!!
Imma wait for this game to release on Steam. It sounds fun, just can't support Epic.
why?
@@TheBlackswanwhite Because I choose not to. I don't like Epic's underlying practices, the company just seems off to me. On top of it, I've been using Steam for years and have accumulated a library of over 380 games, so having multiple programs just to switch between games is tedious and needless, thus downloading the Epic launcher is not something I want to do.
Big screen support....
When talking about the car controls, I was expecting you to show the stream where we kept running into each other lol.
borderlands is the type of game I'll buy in 3 years for $9.99 on a steam summer sale.
I'm thinking of buying the base game on my base ps4. But I am afraid of the performance both solo and coop (online)...Have they optimized the game for the base ps4? Does the framerate drop/stutter or drop below 30 for base ps4? Will it perform worse than 30fps online/coop or does multiplayer have the same framerate and performance as solo??
Are there any people still playing coop online for you to matchmake with? Or will it be deserted like BL2 trying to matchmake?
Out of the season passes is season pass 1 better than season pass 2? I heard pass 1 has more in game content while pass 2 gives a new skill tree and less content...
Right now, the base game on sale is 20$ (on ps store) while season pass 1 is 16$ and pass 2 is 20$...The ultimate edition is 50$ which includes both passes with the base game.
So I'm not saving any money by not buying the DLC
Beware of the Epic Launcher cloud services that can entirely wipe your saves if you are unlucky
Speedy Von Gofast yeah I don’t play on PC. Is that the most common way to play games now?
Beware that this can literally happen with any cloud game service (looking at you racenet)
Who the fuck uses cloud saves in general? turn it off.
Anyone reading this. You can change the control scheme for cars so it controls left and right with A D.
Go into controller settings and set the driving input to standard left.
Had to contact support since they didn't bother to note this shit anywhere or to not make the most retarded possible controls scheme as standard.
I'll wait for it to come to steam
Steam is poo
I play on console and it has no issues at all there, but if you are pc only then yeah, it’s probably worth the wait. 🤙🏻
@@hectorreyes2322 If Steam is poo then Epic is the shit that a bottom-feeding slug produces after eating all of the other critters' shit.
@@TheRPGentleman well said.
Thanks for your honest review Mack. I haven't seen anyone talk about the lack of key-rebinding and the low brow humour. Glad to know it's not worth buying based on their low shelf target demographic. I'm not surprised, as it has been years since a borderlands game was last made.
seems like its fortnite the game now trying to attract that fanbase
How did you find the path finding with the AI when they walk through narrow walkways? I found they come to a complete stop to turn and takes about 2 seconds to continue their walk
So Pitchfork claims this is twice as successful compared to borderlands 2 according to epic sales for PC.
We do indeed live in worrying times imo.
Because people bought a game they wanted to play because they wanted to play it instead of crying on forums about “ePiC bAd REEE”
Dongs
You salty because you are refusing to play a game you want?
Millwaterj I don’t follow. Anyway the game is great on console. Shame they let their product get hurt so bad on the pc market by an exclusivity deal.
Anyone seriously still believes anything that comes out of that POS Bitchford mouth? rofl
Was going to buy this now on sale then remember you cant bind keys. Thats my biggest gripe. A shooter out of all things should have the ability to change key binds.
I'll wait til the beta test is finished and get it on steam next year 👍
Y for chat pissed me off. I always use y to loot but I cant use it because I cant change the key binding.
Been waiting for this one Mack, thank you for doing it! Glad it's wab
Borderlands is like Half-Life games in that you can get rolling and play without having to learn dozens of menus, potions, tuck-n-rolls, craftings etc. Get your gun and go. The health and class mods just work themselves out along the way. I like some menu heavy games but its nice to just play without needing to be a menu jockey
Meh, I'm going to let Epic suckers do all the beta testing until it really launches in 2020.
If you play the match made dungeon mode you can get yourself some pretty much guaranteed Orange rarity gear from the start onwards.
Everything about this game has said "stay away" since the release trailer.
Thx for the keybind issue mac. im a lefty and it’s already hard enough to find a mouse let alone keybinds 👍🏽
Resurecting handsom jack would have been a better idea for a villain.
@Kyros Droztamyr like in the pre sequal? i mean that already happened lol
I've gone back and played borderlands 1/2 and I was surprised at how much of the dialogue really seemed aimed at young teens. I'm not surprised by the level of humor in this game I'm just sad I've fallen out of the target demographic. My coworker is 20 and he can't stop talking about how funny the characters are.
Mac, top tip with Moze against bosses, she has this skill where the more you empty your mag the more damage you do, so for bosses get a nice Tourge shotgun, switch to sticky instead of impact, unload your entire mag onto the bosses face then reload and watch the bosses health just drain down hahahaha
Also great review as always :)
couple of things.. there are vending machines in every single map so there is 0 reason to go to Sanctuary to sell your loot mid-map, granted the machines are placed pretty badly so you need to run through the map to get back to where you fast traveled to the machines from and the loot overwhelming you, well thats just you..
After being a dragass for 6 months, I finally got the game last night. I agree with you wholeheartedly on the amount of loot. I'm only level 7, and I'm already leaving blues, debating on purples, and considering selling my first and only legendary (TK's Wave).
I'm both happy AND sad.
There is something both awesome and cheapening about getting non-legendaries all the frigging time that do the cool stuff legendaries in past games did.
I dunno if it's just me having spent an inordinate amount of time with BL1 & 2, but I feel the need to stay unattached to my gear.
Me and my wfie both enjoying this game a lot. Some good jokes, some bad jokes, great gameplay.
Maya and Ava or Aya or whatever the little crazy girl is called are annoying as hell tho.
I would pay more to have the option to mute that girl...