*UPDATE:* You can adjust the Forward Collision Warning sensitivity. It's under the AutoPilot menu (which I don't have, probably why I never saw it). Mine was set at "Medium" and was definitely over-reactive. I have set to "Late" now, and will see how it goes. There is also an option to turn it off. So, ignore that complaint, because Tesla accommodates driver preference, wonderful! *UPDATE 2:* Things keep getting better! Using the Tesla phone app, you can select the exact battery percentage for charging. Not sure why this isn't the case on the car, but the good news is you can do it with the app - thanks for letting me know! *UPDATE 3:* When I bought my car battery coolant interval was every 4 years. This has changed, and is no longer a required service interval. From latest Model 3 owners manual: "Your Battery coolant does not need to be replaced for the life of your vehicle under most circumstances. Brake fluid should be checked every 2 years, replacing if necessary." If you hope to see more of Bucket the cat, follow on Instagram :) instagram.com/engineeringexplained
I was thinkin "If he has it Forward Collision Warning on late and still get chimes... then must be an asshole driving" XD just kidding. In "late" I still get some chimes but maybe one every 2 or 3 months.
@@antoniomartin5204 Yeah. If you're going to get a wife, you may as well get one with all the bells and whistles. It was an expensive option, but totally worth it. Jokes aside, there were a bunch of comments complaining about the early warning thing. I was so sleepy when reading the comment that I assumed that his wife's Tesla had the same issue. :)
Update 4: A recent software update enabled "Save on honk", which means honking your horn will automatically save the last 10 minutes of TeslaCam footage - no need to remember to touch the icon on the screen.
You forgot a few things: 1. Price. Or more accurately: Breaking even. Over 80% of the population use a daily driver that cost 6-40K (yes, most of the vehicles on the road were bought used). Now let's compare the Leaf to a Versa. They are approximately the same size. Yes, you get better performance, but the price difference will buy you gas and pay for maintenance for 5-6 years! So comparing the Tesla to an Audi R8 is correct performance-wise, but how many people own an R8??? If you want the average Joe to buy an electric vehicle, that vehicle should cost 20-$30K for a sedan, 30-$45K for an SUV, and should have at least a 300Km range...We're not even close to being there. 2. Range: It will take you about 1.5 hours to extend your range by 400 Km. It takes me 3 minutes to do that with my ICE. Also, when it's -20 outside, you lose roughly 30% of your range, an ICE vehicle doesn't. So right now, the only people who are buying electric vehicles are rich people, because all the EV's with a large enough range to do all the driving you'll ever need in one single car cost $60K+. Or they buy a 34-$50K EV as a second car to do city driving, and the have another ICE car for longer trips. The ones who own 2 cars are actually worse for the environment since manufacturing that EV car is like driving an ICE vehicle for about 6-8 years...And on top of that, they also have an ICE vehicle. 3. Battery. I'm really not sure how the batteries will hold up over time. I have seen them last over mileage, but that's not really the same thing. If a $60K car will be worthless after 8 years or so, people aren't going to buy it. So I don't see EV's taking over the market any time soon. Maybe in about 5 years, they'll reach a point where it's an actual alternative for the average family. Don't get me wrong, I'm no "Hater". I would love to have an electric vehicle even more than I would like an R8...But it makes no financial sense to me yet.
Just rewatched. I have a 22 and same feedback. 18,000 miles in 8 months. Never had a better daily driver and it’s so fun. And I race it on weekends. Win most of the time!
Using the electric car as a status quo for your questions was clever. I wasn't expecting that. It really makes the difference between ICE and electric cars clearer.
@@bosstowndynamics5488 Yes! Imagine if 100 years of R&D had gone into EVs instead of ICE's. Of course, one big thing that has made all vehicles so amazing today is computers. Hard to imagine an EV without them (say 50 years ago), but at least battery tech would be farther along. Fun to think about.
I'm having that experience now. My model 3 was in a crash and I'm driving a rental. When I drove it off the lot I thought there was something wrong with it because the engine was making a horrible noise and it was barely moving. Took me a little driving to figure out that it was just a typical $17k car and that is what I used to drive all the time. Little ICEs at 5k RPMs make a lot of noise, but not much power.
@@RichFreeman I have to alternate between a minivan and my model3 to accommodate a large dog and kids sometimes. I swear every time I drive the van it feels like it is minutes from falling apart completely. Even driving my husband's bmw now is pitiful, I am ruined for all other cars.
8:18 “I bought a Tesla so that my chocolate wouldn’t melt and so that my dog wouldn’t die in the intense heat... my dog ate the chocolate and died anyway. Now I have no chocolate and my dog died. RIP Chocolate! (Ironically chocolate was my dog’s name) 😢”
yeah electric cars have many great benefits(torque, noise, maintenance, cost to run) but the massive drawback of batteries(very expensive, super heavy, bad charging times, small capacity) are still enough to make them inferior in most applications. Fact is that for the vast majority of people a 60000$ tesla model 3 makes no sense over a 18000 toyota corolla
It really does. Imagine a world where goods couldn't be moved across a long distance efficiently, then all of a sudden comes the Cummins X15 diesel engine along with an Eaton 18 speed transmission that allows 80k lbs of goods to be brought to your town from the other side of the country overnight! H O L Y S H I T, talk about a game changer for a society that was previously limited by having to charge their vehicle for hours every couple hundred miles, probably the absolute biggest change to the way people live up to that point in time. Would likely have a hard time wrapping their brain around the concept of spending 5 minutes fueling to drive 400 miles, everyone would dump their electric cars for ICE cars as soon as they could get them. Btw, I love my 2015 Volt, try to drive on electric as much as possible and enjoy avoiding the gas station, I also love my '01 Duramax w/50 gal tank in the bed I only have to fuel up once every 2 months or so. Everything has advantages and disadvantages, and having more options is always better than less.
The issue is of course, to advertise the electric cars properly like you said would make the car companies' other cars, which they make a higher profit margin on and dealers maker more money on long term, look crappy in comparison. And a company like Tesla who could drive that point home, hasn't yet needed to advertise to maximize sales based on current infrastructure. It will be interesting to see what kind of ads they run when they get to the point where they have the ability to make more cars than they are selling in a given month. -Daven
I really, really like you. An engineer who can speak in gentle, ironic -- and more or less grammatic -- satire. "Let's bond through hating . . ." Perfect. Now, for heaven's sake, be like Fred Astaire and go find you a Ginger Rogers.
@@12vgs8606Ah, very good. My comment was intended to indirectly prompt this information from Jason while trying not to pry. I respect all utoobers' right to conduct their public vlogs while keeping their private lives appropriately private. I am sorry to feed into any hoary stereotypes, but he really does seem like such a nice boy, you know? I certainly hope he has a good partner.
Don't forget about the OTA range reductions some drivers have seen, and the fact that you are being GPS tracked and video recorded pretty much whenever you are driving.
@@EngineeringExplained yes, because I never leave home without my cell phone. Definitely. Just because ICE cars do it doesn't mean you can't push back. States have laws requiring data disclosure. Use of those processes is used to evaluate customer sentiment.
I lived in the Mojave for three years, very close to death valley. It was brutal. I learned to leave white cloths or rags on my dashboard and steering wheel.
You get to pay almost twice as much for insurance (which negates your fuel savings) and if you get into an accident, it will probably be totalled if the battery pack suffers a scuff. It's insane how much it costs to repair these and the lead time on parts... Needs improvement. I'd rather spend 25k on another Mazda 6.
Peter Petrakis not true for me. You might want to shop around. With Progressive my insurance actually went down a tiny bit compared to my similarly priced BMW. Where as, based on my calculations, I will pay about 1/8th the price for electricity compared to the premium gas required by my old car.
Well done.... I finally have some information about the car that's relevant to me. Rear visibility is a concern for me and I appreciate your attention to that.
I've recently received my model 3 performance edition a day before Christmas 2019, and wow, this is absolutely the best, most convenient, comfortable car I've bought. The 0-60 mph time is within 3.5 seconds which is amazingly fast. Performance is not joke. Handling is also phenomenal for the weight and sedan class it is. Ive had no complaints other than the advertised mileage of 310 miles, realistically it's only gives you 240-250 miles on a full charge while driving as you would normally would. Also if you can charge at home/work with output of 20 mph, you're pretty much set for a commute that's within a daily 200 mile range commute. For those who live in apartment or don't have readily available charging, its much harder for you guys, it's possible but you'd have to visit a supercharger/third party charge stations more often. Tesla should have more stations coming soon in the future. Personally if you have the opportunity to test drive one for a day, I'd say try it out, despite being a 4 door sedan, this car is just as good or better han other much more expensive gasoline cars!
I wish my apartment complex or job had charging stations. The EV charging infrastructure is the only thing holding me (and probably a lot of others) from pulling the trigger on buying one.
Same here. Only a small handfull of charging stations in my town. Until I move out of the condo or to something with a garage to install a charger, EVs just aren't a viable option for me. It would also be nice to have more ev options besides sedan or crossover (bleagh....). Where are the sporty coupes that don't cost more than a house??
Same here. For apartment dwellers making a switch to EVs is way harder. I do have a rapid charging station basically across the street but its a real bummer that its so expensive that it would be actually cheaper to stick with diesel. I will probably wait for a used ID3 or similar. At least now politics have picked up the topic and are debating to give tenants the right to spend their own money on improving their landlord's garages with crucial infrastructure...
I hear ya, it's tough without a dedicated charging spot, and most apartments don't have it. I rented a garage at my old apartment which did have *one* outlet, which would be fine for smaller battery EVs. But most make it pretty tough.
@@EngineeringExplained It's also cheaper to charge an EV than it is to fill an ICE with gas as you mentioned in a previous video. Did you leave that out as a perk when mentioning the gas station bit because the public charging stations still cost a lot vs. having a charging station in your home?
Thanks for making this video. I have to say this has changed my thinking of Tesla and electric cars in general. Not a small feat as old grumpy seasoned engineers tend to be strong minded.
I'm pausing the video at 3:40 to say this. This is the most excellent thought experiment and description of throttle response that I've ever heard in relation to the comparison of EV's and internal combustion engine vehicles. Bravo!
13:10 - not true. Basically you didn’t read the owners manual.. :) There IS a manual emergency release handles on the back doors. BUT for child safety purposes (and to protect rear windows), they are hidden inside the door speaker. The speaker cover is easy to get off with just hands - so yeah, there IS manual emergency release handles in the rear too. - The More You Know :D
Okay, cool. Guess every passenger had better pass the "where is the super hidden emergency door release handle" quiz before they get in. ... Or Tesla could put the release handle in plain sight like every other car in existence.
@@mjc0961 every other car does not have a electrical button as the door opener, and therefore the need for an emergency release handle. It's a part of the design. :) It's ONLY needed if there is an accident that completely shuts all electric power down, which is never heard of to this date yet. So you'll probably never need it anyway, unless you run red lights with 0% batteri and slam into a tree with 90mph lmao. So don't worry about it dude. :)
Child safety purposes? Hidden inside the speaker? GTFO. essentially you just said, disassemble the door handle and find the mechanical portion of the latch.
Yeah, or they could have made them visible and used a child safety lockout selector in the end of the door latch like everybody else. Pretty sure that feature isn't under a current patent.
If I could afford a Tesla I’d buy one. They are amazing machines. Yes they have their problems but overall the best electric vehicle. I wonder how well they do in Arizona or Nevada during the summer?
I live in TX and the external temperature only mildly affects overall battery performance. You can precondition the battery before you even drive the car right from your phone so it's no cause of concern at all.
@@jimboTTT no I’m going to wait till tesla’s build quality improves a bit. I can’t justify paying 50k+ for a vehicle with door panels that aren’t aligned properly lol
I drive heavy duty trucks with 18 spd to get over that fetish. Getting very rare nowadays with lots of Automatic Euros and lots of pretend drivers that think they are supertruckers driving them.
Gears beats electricity. Only city vehicles benefits from electric power. As soon as a electric car needs to compete with a geared combustion engine cars they go wrong in SOME major way. Rant incoming! Copy pasted one. Cost, Environment, Complexity. One of them ruin the electric car. Outside of small slow electric cars. Like a electric golf car you use when playing golf. Sacrificing safety and speed. But just strait up beats a combustion car. Since it get all the benefits of the engine choice. Electric cars are heavy and wasteful. Making small city car with basically no impact safety nor good top speed might be the future. Simple cheap and good for the environment done right. Combustions cars can not beat a good electric car in this category. Good driving techniques and a change in how we travel in cars would be better for the environment then heavy battery riddled electric cars. Removing safety concerns being the big factor. And why we travel. (and how) Electric cars are heavy and running on mainly coal unless you specifically charge them with YOUR OWN produced reenable electric source. Since anyone and everyone is taking advantage and making money before anything else. Just taking away the safety features of the car would minimize the batteries needed. And what damage the batteries have done to the planet needs to be taken into account. Just as well as the fuel used in a normal combustion car. So minimizing the batteries needed is the fight needed to beat a combustion engine. Simply put. Saving on a resources that harms our world AND to change the way anyone travels. Just as much of a point as the first! Change the way we travel and why. But that will not fly. So saving the planet are now all the sudden bad? Imagen if the engines was made as efficient as possible without being to complex and prone to failure. And the driver and traffic had to adapt to it's wills and needs. Mind blown. No self driving and no impossible to repair vehicles when 5 years old or more. Instead of touching the brakes we cut the engine off and cruised the remained of the way before stopping. Even having a electric engine helping out at lower speeds. Also being the starter of the combustion engine. Which can run on wood good stuff. Ethanol. Wood gas. Whatever. Regenerating power for later use is also possible with that electric engine so even that is taken advantage of. Like if the roads where not used so in responsible we might be able to cut emissions down SO much by that change alone. But electric toy go fast and trendy. So we do that instead. Na we make the vehicles fit lazy humans that pay for comfort and luxury in a safe bubble. Instead of making them cheap reliable and good of the environment. It is electrical so I'm saving the world! But dangerous and strict need of drivers being got dam good at driving. It is funny how imagining a car being a tractor makes you driver slower and drive safer. Or if the car is not safe to collide with anything to being with. And instead of using the brakes just let of the gas to early. To the point of needing to crawl under added power to get to the intersection or whatever. Never touching the brake or having to stop. Using the stored energy fully before doing any maneuver. And having a lower average speed where it matters. (crawling instead of braking to a stop) This do not work when other drivers do not drive like that in a city for example. Or if the streets are overcrowded by people not in real need of being there. Just easy and comfy for them. Very pleasant to drive a lorry and just have the time to cruise without using any diesel or brakes to your destination in sight. Compare that having to drive it like a F1 car to follow a time schedule. What is better for everyone? Having to rely on brakes VS almost not needing the engine turned on to get off the road and park? What drive style is best for anyone but the employer here.
@@TheDiner50 that's what's keeping me from electric. You need this massive battery that doesn't have the best range considering how long it takes to recharge. It gives me brick phone vibes. Or maybe 1980 IBM computer that took up a whole room. We need a battery that's a few hundred pounds and goes farther than ICE cars with gas tanks, that don't form dendrites and start wearing out after 5+ years. It'd also gotta recharge in ten minutes. Enough time to plug in, go to the restroom and buy some snacks so you can get back on the road.
Great show. Just want to mention, there are audio settings where you can adjust the sound to any point in the cabin. And, there is a setting as to how the early warning system works.
Ahhh, I have tried adjusting sound but not successfully, where is the early warning setting? Would certainly be helpful to myself (and probably other viewers).
@@EngineeringExplained Early Collision Warning is under the Autopilot settings. I set mine to "late" and stopped hearing it. Can be turned off entirely, too.
@@EngineeringExplained By default, Forward Collision Warning is turned on. To turn it off or adjust its sensitivity, touch Controls > Autopilot > Forward Collision Warning. Instead of the default warning level of Medium, you can turn the warning Off, or you can choose to be warned Late or Early.
Cold weather reduces the battery life by almost half. Tesla suggests people use the heated seats to keep warm BUT you need to have hot airflow to de-ice your windshield and keep it from fogging up in -40... Which lasts about 1-2 months of the year.
Have you set your early collision warning to "late?" Helps a ton with the BEEPBEEPBEEPBEEP as you approach cars. I haven't heard it since setting it to late. Also, you're not OCD, the inability to set a specific charge percentage drives me nuts, too.
@@EngineeringExplained I'm stoked that after 1 full year, you NEVER went through ALL the options in your car... That would literary be the very first thing I would do, for days, until I know about every single functions on this car. You are not intellectually curious enough I guess. Because if you would, we wouldn't have this conversation.
@@EngineeringExplained I don't think any of us would mind if you would just go ahead and block Ramon Zarat, as much as I like a big dose of negativity first thing in the morning. Great level-headed video, BTW.
Jason, you are brilliant Sir! By approaching the 1yr review from this angle you eliminate the ice-bias/reluctance to change - just brilliant. Ingenious solution. "Yo I don't care, i just want a sweet car," pretty much sums it up.
I know the feeling. Standing at the pump freezing my butt off and thinking if I had a M3, I could just wake up to a fully charged car each morning and never have to go to a gas station... well except for a slurpee. lol
Wow, I listened to several people reviewing this car. I guess it takes an engineer to notice things that are not just beauty or acceleration related. Thanks for the details that nobody else mentioned!
I've noticed other vehicles that have smart driving/warning systems also seem to engage "emergency warnings" too early. My guess would be it's a business decision to prevent unnecessary law suits for the car "not warning soon enough". Until tort reform, we're stuck with this behavior (in the USA anyway).
@_ David _ I'm referring to even the most sensitive of settings. I had a 2017 Maxima Platinum and it 3 sensitivity settings, and even the most aggressive one was a bit too passive for my tastes. I've noted this trend across several makes/models and several smart-driving software options.
Thank you. Turning this around was needing done, 'what if EVs were here first in mass numbers' sort of thing. Enjoying this fresh perspective very much, you do it well.
Just had to look that up, never heard it before. Kind of sounds like a formula one or something. Not my taste but I can see the appeal. I used the love the sound of the E39 M5, I like the sound of the R8, actually I like the sound of an old Detroit Diesel or a Ford 7.3 diesel with a little work done to it, but that's a different animal.
I agree with a lot of things he had pointed out and, the way he implemented why electric cars are better than gas cars was a great example! I am staring to hate gas cars a lot more now, they are starting to become a nuisance with how much you need to worry about maintenance with a lot of components over time. Hopefully one day in my future, I can finally buy a Tesla
Really, I like the driving involvement of the ICE but the electric car is really a simpler build with loads of advantages. The MAIN one is the lack of fume emissions. The disadvantage of the EV is just the road trip point all the others mentioned are manufacturer build problems. But great points raised in support of the EV (10 advantages).
There's the problem, there is so much convoluted software with nested submenus on this vehicle that even after a year of an enthusiast driving it, he still can't figure it out. You know what else the app can do? Make a non-refundable $7,000 upgrade by accidently pressing a button. Tesla doesn't even use secondary confirmation. You can butt dial your way to poverty.
Engineering Explained they still need to make the slider snap to every 5 increments. It looks like it’s actually snapping to 3 or something, which means you can’t snap to 80%. I always get 81% which is super irritating to people who have minor OCD like me lol.
I drive a Chevy volt and I have to agree with every point you make. I don't think I will go back to an internal combustion engine even though I consider myself a car guy. Electric is just too good
Chris Sullivan Cool! I used to have (still do have it in the family) a 2014 Chevy volt and loved it, bought it with 6.5k miles in late 2015 and now it has 66k miles. I have since switch to a Model 3 due to me driving more (20k miles a year) but love both. For me it was a great “stepping stone” to pure EV also the Volt isn’t slow like most fuel efficient cars
@@ValidAsian yeah, i would love to go to a model 3 or something. I LOVE the volt simply for lack of range anxiety and just how easy it is to drive in the city. It's a great car all around. I'm on my 3rd year with it and i can't imagine what i will wasn't too replace it with. I just can't see going back to anoyong gas station trips
Crestfallen Plinth Chevy overbuilt the battery, especially for Gen 1. You could only use 60% (40% was dedicated to longevity management) of it and they are known to last over 400k miles
@@NeoHCgbz why? The 2011 models have experienced zero degradation, mine is a late 2013 model so i have 2 years left on my battery warning and it still gets me 50-55 miles per charge (well over the 38 listed). nothing says an ICE engine has to be able to live longer than 5 years, much less 8 for the EV batterY. Mini coopers, bmw, Mercedes, and Audi all have more expensive problems that crop up as soon as the 3-5 year warranty disappears. I'm at 45k miles with 2 oil changes, practically new, original brakes, 22 gallons of gas used, 1 coolant flush at the 5 year mark, and no other maintenance or any issues at all.
Jason, I love your content. I also agree with most of your points in the video comparing EV to ICE vehicles. HOWEVER...... I feel like you had ONE really really BIG miss here. If comparing today's EV tech and today's ICE tech, I think that people would be absolutely over the moon with joy for the ability of towing, camping, off-roading, etc that ICE vehicles do VERY well. No complaints on your content, I was just a little bummed that you missed that point when comparing. Especially since you sometimes collab with the guys at TFL Car/TFL Truck. Anyway, love the video bro! Keep up the awesome content!
I get what you're saying and agree with you to a certain extent, but I think you're kinda missing the point. EVs will soon totally have the capability to do all these things, but the problem is superchargers still aren't extremely common. I think he's referring to a hypothetical world where EVs can already do these things very well and superchargers are everywhere. However, I think a definite real complaint is the wait for charging times, and people would be super happy with ICE vehicles if they still remained at the same charging times today. The good news is charging only gets faster and faster and EVs are getting better everyday, but it still makes sense as to why someone would want an ICE in current times.
Gas Stations: Here's something I'm curious about. As the number of electric cars on the road increases, how does that compare to the rate at which gas stations will disappear? Like, I have a feeling that the comparison of num_electric_cars to num_gas_stations will follow something like a logistic growth curve. We might be approaching the point where for every 5% increase in electric cars on the road, the number of gas stations will decrease by (say) 10%. Gas stations that today are making (say) 20% profit might be able to stay in business for a long time, while gas stations that are making (say) 5% profit close within a year or two. In the suburbs where there tends to be a gas station on almost every thoroughfare corner, a lot of those redundant gas stations just won't be needed any more. And what happens to the lonely gas stations that are found along long rural routes? They'll still be needed, but they'll be less profitable, so will they get away with charging more for gas to support the fewer drivers who do need them? I think it'd be really interesting to see an explanation of a projection about how the increase in electric cars will affect the frequency with which we see gas stations. Fifteen years from now, will gas stations seem like a bit of an anachronistic novelty?
Spot on. I have the dual motor version, had it for a year. With the exception of the wheels, I'd list an identical set of pros and cons. Yes, reducing the sensitivity of the collision warning does make a difference, but I still find it too reactive. All in all though, a FANTASTIC car. Best one I have ever owned and it's not even close.
Yeah but they weren’t mainstream and the lack of competition in making them better stagnated their advancement. Look how much progress tesla alone has made in the past ten years, give it a couple more decades when other manufacturers also spend billions into research and development and then we’ll finally get real battery tech advances.
To development of electric cars has been ignored for the last hundred years. Only in the last 15 years has there been any serious investment in them, and in those 15 years electric cars have improved more than gas cars have in the last hundred years lol 🤣
Danie van Rensburg “... in 1899 ninety percent of New York City’s taxi cabs were electric vehicles. This fleet of electric cars was built by the Electric Carriage and Wagon Company of Philadelphia. Not only that, but in 1899 and 1900, electric cars outsold all other types of cars, such as gas and steam powered vehicles.”
To be fair battery technology has sucked for the last 100 years. And we use batteries for other things, so it's not like there wasn’t constant research into making them better during that time.
Where do I begin 🤔🤔... Congrats on getting published that's HUGE!!! I ALWAYS NEW you better than anything in print media. OH Thank you for: The 10 points The reverse logic for ICE 😂🤣 The annoying mom warning 😂🤣 The fix for the annoying mom warning 👍😎
Yes, the electric car has instant torque, as electrons move quickly through wire. I still think the combustion engine is amazing for what it is, only too bad the fuel is oil.
The throttle on my Skoda Superb 190DSG reacts how I want. But it is a fly by wire system that learns my driving style. My better half cannot get used to it. This same car also can heat itself, but it does require the engine running. It's part of the quickclear system. It's lovely. Same with the cooling. I'd love a Tesla, for a lot of my driving it would be fine, the things stopping me 1) I have two very large dogs and a family, there just isn't the options 2) I tow, our family holidays are in a caravan, the range and the towing on top are just a non-starter 3) The price, they're a lot of money and I've heard they are still selling them at a loss
Hey- my 2019 Camry XSE doesn’t sound THAT bad...exhaust is decent, engine is quiet when not flogging it. But I would kill for a Tesla Model 3, upper trim.
Daemon Silver It may seem to not sound that bad and the exhaust may seem decent, but you have learned to tune those sounds and smells out. Drive an EV for 6 months and then try driving your Camry and you will be surprised at how your perspective will change.
I have a Bolt too, and up North a heated steering wheel has become a must for me. On the downside we don't get s/w updates even for small improvements that newer models get. GM needs to smarten up!
Trey My Leaf also has a heated steering wheel, which I have come to love in Canadian winters. My guess is they don’t need them in California, so Elon cut it to save a few pennies.
An electric car may be practical BUT I have a 4 wheel drive Tacoma and i can tow a 5000 pound camper with it. No electric truck can do that practically yet. About off roading...yes an ICE engine does have a limit as to how deep mud and water one can traverse....but an all electric truck will not do well because the motors are near the wheels and i am confident to say electric motors and water/mud do not mix well at all. Now, you may say yes but those motors are sealed from water...just like the Titanic was unsinkable eh.
I really want to like EV but I just refuse to buy a car that cant drive even 1/4 of the way across texas. It makes road trips last 2x longer and that's a deal breaker for me
drive 3 hours, charge 30 min, drive 3 more hours, at least with tesla. I wouldn't exactly call that 2x more. You'd have to fill gas at least once as well most likely.
Snowblack Mulan I have a model 3, and no one charges to 100% every stop. You charge to around 80% which takes 30 min almost every time, sometimes 20-25 min on v3.
All are very good points. A small detail. The "braking warning system" has 3 adjustable levels of sensitivity. If you are using the least sensitive and still having it triggered then perhaps you need to consider to keep safer distance or drive slower in busy areas. That is amazing how everyone consider themselves good drivers :) I have exactly same car (even same wheels style but 19s), the "warning" is set to Medium, and it almost never triggers.
Regarding the environment: As you say it is a discussion wether electrical cars saves the planet or not. BUT more electrical cars are gold for the air quality specially in dense cities. Oslo, Norway is a totally different city now that about 50% of the cars are electric. Huge difference !
I still think electric cars are a bit iffy, but this is 100% undeniable. It simply doesn't make sense for ICE cars to start up in the cold and idle in one big traffic jam in a city. Even if it's a perfect world with all vehicle engines emission compliant, it's still hugely wasteful. It's very hard on the engines as well, electric excells for this.
I just ordered my first Model 3 Performance, I had a 21 Mach-E and absolutely loved it... I now own a 2016 Rattly, stinky, Wrangler; I fealt every word you said about coming from an electric car and the lag with internal combustion.
Some solid points. For me the road trip ability is a tough pill to swallow. I also park outside on the street. I also anticipate big issues with electricity supply in the future as these are more widely adopted and with higher amp charging systems, at least where I live. So eventually, I think the fuel cost savings will become insignificant. Things I do not like about tesla are the giant touchscreen, their parts/maintenance policy, and the body aesthetics.
In an alternate timeline, where EVs have been the status-quo for a hundred years, and ICE cars are being introduced to mitigate the photon-electron continuum degradation: People: We hate ICEVs! Other People: Why? Agent Smith: It's the smell!
Hey Jason, do you have one of those easy to digest videos of yours explaining how air brakes on buses and trucks work? The ones on TH-cam aren't easy to visualise.
Apologies, I do not! That's a good idea though. I feel like I've explained most things, but air brakes hadn't come up. I do have a video on Jake Brakes (which most vehicles using air brakes will tend to use engine braking as well). th-cam.com/video/o8Cta2cC2Co/w-d-xo.html
My model S door handle just stopped working last night. Super common problem. Really pisses me of that everything else is awesome, but such a simple part commonly fails. No complaints otherwise.
Love your videos. You are the first TH-camr I have seen that has mentioned the poor rear visibility. I have a Model 3 Performance and I feel like all of the mirrors are unusually small or maybe it is because the BMWs and Raptors are so far behind me when I check out where they are after they challenge me.
It's been 36 days now since I've been able to drive my Model 3 LR AWD while it sits at a Tesla-certified body shop getting a frunk hood replaced (160 hail dents) and 200 more hail dents removed via PDR on the rest of the car. In the meantime, I've "suffered" through driving our gas car, a Honda CR-V, with the 1.5L Turbo and CVT. You don't know lag until you combine a turbocharged engine with a CVT. With that car, you step on it, and once it finally responds, you end up backing off as it ends up being too little too late. I keep telling myself, just one more week as the completion estimates continue to stretch on until I can drive something responsive again!
Ugh, I tried to go through and fix everything, rewatched multiple times. Not sure why, editing was getting messy with the 4K60 video (uploaded 4K30), and some of it unfortunately didn't seem to render correctly.
@@EngineeringExplained nah. Probably just haters and picky people are going to complain about that (I guess that makes me a part of them?) Nice vid nevertheless
My mom has a jag with a heated wheel, about a 2007/2009 model i think. It's tied into the heated seats which I find annoying because the wheel gets HOT well before the seats are toasty, and it would be great to be able to have that heated wheel for that initial chill, but it makes you want to turn off the heated seats to avoid feeling like you're playing hot potato.
Kamikaze e30 haha, nope but the heated seats and heated steering wheel are in the same switch. If it was my car I'd probably put a cut-off switch for the heated steering wheel so I could just do the seats. But, it's not and my mom drives less than a 1,000 miles a year and they use their Subaru when it's cold out anyway.
I personally have never liked the idea of an electric car of any ddescription, but having watched this video and hearing your way point of if we had electric first and the engine was to come out now, you;ve made some extremely good points and why auto manufacturers dont advertise their cars this way truly baffles me!
Perfectly presented mate, excellent video. Every single time I jumped ahead in my mind, you said it ten seconds later. Very very much appreciate you keeping it real too, a brave thing to do in the modern world.
Your joke about SW update for heated steering wheel- I was thinking “has Tesla fandom made him lose his mind?” My 2014 RAM has a heated steering wheel. It really seems like an oversight, given all the other features.
I'm all for a E daily car. But my race car gotta be a gas cuz I like to feel/hear the power come on as the RPM's rise. Electric is boring, it's like a on off switch
Kenneth Porst There is certainly room for both. One a daily and the other a weekend play thing for extra fun at the track. I am sure go kart drivers have heaps more fun on the track than us. I mean, most F1 drivers seem to have started there
After driving my Model 3, it’s hard to go back to the ICE. Even the best turbocharged or supercharged 6 and 8 cylinder engines no longer feel that quick or smooth.
"Feel" being the key word. Like vtec "feels" fast because of the peaky powerband. Your model 3 would get destroyed by a turbo V8 car to 120, they just keep pulling when you're out of steam by 80. As long as you're happy, that's all that really matters though, there's always something faster.
*UPDATE:* You can adjust the Forward Collision Warning sensitivity. It's under the AutoPilot menu (which I don't have, probably why I never saw it). Mine was set at "Medium" and was definitely over-reactive. I have set to "Late" now, and will see how it goes. There is also an option to turn it off. So, ignore that complaint, because Tesla accommodates driver preference, wonderful!
*UPDATE 2:* Things keep getting better! Using the Tesla phone app, you can select the exact battery percentage for charging. Not sure why this isn't the case on the car, but the good news is you can do it with the app - thanks for letting me know!
*UPDATE 3:* When I bought my car battery coolant interval was every 4 years. This has changed, and is no longer a required service interval. From latest Model 3 owners manual: "Your Battery coolant does not need to be replaced for the life of your vehicle under most circumstances. Brake fluid should be checked every 2 years, replacing if necessary."
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Forward collision warning should really be under Safety and Security, along with Lane Departure Avoidance, Automatic Emergency Braking, etc.
I was thinkin "If he has it Forward Collision Warning on late and still get chimes... then must be an asshole driving" XD just kidding. In "late" I still get some chimes but maybe one every 2 or 3 months.
May be you can remove the 2 head rest from the back seat to improve your rare visibility "just a little bit" :p
Re: braking warning system
My braking warning system (my wife) is similarly over reactive. And trying to adjust the sensitivity is very problematic.
It's in the Autopilot settings.
The Aroused Eunuch wait so your wife cane with autopilot? Got damn you’re an lucky guy.
@@antoniomartin5204 Yeah. If you're going to get a wife, you may as well get one with all the bells and whistles. It was an expensive option, but totally worth it.
Jokes aside, there were a bunch of comments complaining about the early warning thing. I was so sleepy when reading the comment that I assumed that his wife's Tesla had the same issue. :)
Ray Drouillard trade it in for a new model
Cheers mate, same problem here too LOL.
"The world is full of little inconveniences that people profit off of".
No truer words that I've heard all day, today.
Amen!
Sola Scriptura , profit off, less clumsy.
Was going to thumbs up, but... nice
'Profit from'
cough cough Bethesda
Update 4: A recent software update enabled "Save on honk", which means honking your horn will automatically save the last 10 minutes of TeslaCam footage - no need to remember to touch the icon on the screen.
thats a really clever and simple solution
Hehe some people will run out of storage before the end of their block!
Imagine the storage used in India.
Black Stone imagine NYC
You forgot a few things:
1. Price. Or more accurately: Breaking even.
Over 80% of the population use a daily driver that cost 6-40K (yes, most of the vehicles on the road were bought used).
Now let's compare the Leaf to a Versa. They are approximately the same size. Yes, you get better performance, but the price difference will buy you gas and pay for maintenance for 5-6 years!
So comparing the Tesla to an Audi R8 is correct performance-wise, but how many people own an R8??? If you want the average Joe to buy an electric vehicle, that vehicle should cost 20-$30K for a sedan, 30-$45K for an SUV, and should have at least a 300Km range...We're not even close to being there.
2. Range: It will take you about 1.5 hours to extend your range by 400 Km. It takes me 3 minutes to do that with my ICE. Also, when it's -20 outside, you lose roughly 30% of your range, an ICE vehicle doesn't.
So right now, the only people who are buying electric vehicles are rich people, because all the EV's with a large enough range to do all the driving you'll ever need in one single car cost $60K+. Or they buy a 34-$50K EV as a second car to do city driving, and the have another ICE car for longer trips. The ones who own 2 cars are actually worse for the environment since manufacturing that EV car is like driving an ICE vehicle for about 6-8 years...And on top of that, they also have an ICE vehicle.
3. Battery. I'm really not sure how the batteries will hold up over time. I have seen them last over mileage, but that's not really the same thing. If a $60K car will be worthless after 8 years or so, people aren't going to buy it.
So I don't see EV's taking over the market any time soon. Maybe in about 5 years, they'll reach a point where it's an actual alternative for the average family.
Don't get me wrong, I'm no "Hater". I would love to have an electric vehicle even more than I would like an R8...But it makes no financial sense to me yet.
Just rewatched. I have a 22 and same feedback. 18,000 miles in 8 months. Never had a better daily driver and it’s so fun. And I race it on weekends. Win most of the time!
Using the electric car as a status quo for your questions was clever. I wasn't expecting that. It really makes the difference between ICE and electric cars clearer.
@@bosstowndynamics5488 Kind of like hydrogen cars are right now with the Toyota Mirai. Extremely few places to fill it up, extremely expensive.
@@bosstowndynamics5488 Yes! Imagine if 100 years of R&D had gone into EVs instead of ICE's. Of course, one big thing that has made all vehicles so amazing today is computers. Hard to imagine an EV without them (say 50 years ago), but at least battery tech would be farther along. Fun to think about.
I'm having that experience now. My model 3 was in a crash and I'm driving a rental. When I drove it off the lot I thought there was something wrong with it because the engine was making a horrible noise and it was barely moving. Took me a little driving to figure out that it was just a typical $17k car and that is what I used to drive all the time. Little ICEs at 5k RPMs make a lot of noise, but not much power.
@@RichFreeman I have to alternate between a minivan and my model3 to accommodate a large dog and kids sometimes. I swear every time I drive the van it feels like it is minutes from falling apart completely. Even driving my husband's bmw now is pitiful, I am ruined for all other cars.
@Eric Simonson Electric motors have benefited from about two centuries of R&D. It is the batteries that are key.
8:18 “I bought a Tesla so that my chocolate wouldn’t melt and so that my dog wouldn’t die in the intense heat... my dog ate the chocolate and died anyway. Now I have no chocolate and my dog died. RIP Chocolate! (Ironically chocolate was my dog’s name) 😢”
Sooooo... Chocolate ate himself out of existence...
Was it a Chocolate Lab?
Googadis Beotches it appears so 🤔
That's aweful! RIP Chocolate.
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Awesome - loved the reversed adoption of EV’s and ICE’s thought experiment, really puts things in a different light 👍
yeah electric cars have many great benefits(torque, noise, maintenance, cost to run) but the massive drawback of batteries(very expensive, super heavy, bad charging times, small capacity) are still enough to make them inferior in most applications.
Fact is that for the vast majority of people a 60000$ tesla model 3 makes no sense over a 18000 toyota corolla
It really does. Imagine a world where goods couldn't be moved across a long distance efficiently, then all of a sudden comes the Cummins X15 diesel engine along with an Eaton 18 speed transmission that allows 80k lbs of goods to be brought to your town from the other side of the country overnight! H O L Y S H I T, talk about a game changer for a society that was previously limited by having to charge their vehicle for hours every couple hundred miles, probably the absolute biggest change to the way people live up to that point in time. Would likely have a hard time wrapping their brain around the concept of spending 5 minutes fueling to drive 400 miles, everyone would dump their electric cars for ICE cars as soon as they could get them.
Btw, I love my 2015 Volt, try to drive on electric as much as possible and enjoy avoiding the gas station, I also love my '01 Duramax w/50 gal tank in the bed I only have to fuel up once every 2 months or so. Everything has advantages and disadvantages, and having more options is always better than less.
"I am extremely humble" Jason exclaimed proudly
I loved the way you chose to go about explaining the topic by inverting the history! Makes so much sense!
Early brake warning? They must have consulted my MOM !
Congratulations on your article getting published!
Loved the content, format and presentation of this video. You're really hitting your stride!
Appreciate it, thank you for the kind words!
16:00 adjust the front collision warning to 'Late' instead of the default 'Medium' and it's way less annoying
Just did this, thank you! I did not know about it. (For anyone interested, it is under the "AutoPilot" menu).
I'm old. I remember when cars did not need a university IT course to drive.
God I'd hate to imagine 'Early', if it has it lol
@@icky_thump it does have early. It's very, very annoying
jpwe10 I have had mine set to early since day one. Been a year and I’ve never found it annoying.
The issue is of course, to advertise the electric cars properly like you said would make the car companies' other cars, which they make a higher profit margin on and dealers maker more money on long term, look crappy in comparison. And a company like Tesla who could drive that point home, hasn't yet needed to advertise to maximize sales based on current infrastructure. It will be interesting to see what kind of ads they run when they get to the point where they have the ability to make more cars than they are selling in a given month. -Daven
I just wish I had bought more than 2 stocks when the price was super low.
Still 2 stock doesn’t mean a lot but you getting a good price out of it I wish I could bough stock If I had money
@@AllxLegitx808 Thank you I bought them at maybe $195 now they are hovering around $954 had I followed my gut and invest $6,000 I would be rich lol
The price is low again
Better 2 stocks than none
Its $1400 today
I really, really like you. An engineer who can speak in gentle, ironic -- and more or less grammatic -- satire. "Let's bond through hating . . ." Perfect. Now, for heaven's sake, be like Fred Astaire and go find you a Ginger Rogers.
So very kind, cheers!
I like him too. Really really 😉
As a fellow engineer and car enthusiast I love listening to his videos, they hit right on point with my interests
I thought Jason already has his Ginger Rogers but he is careful to keep her off the camera.
@@12vgs8606Ah, very good. My comment was intended to indirectly prompt this information from Jason while trying not to pry. I respect all utoobers' right to conduct their public vlogs while keeping their private lives appropriately private. I am sorry to feed into any hoary stereotypes, but he really does seem like such a nice boy, you know? I certainly hope he has a good partner.
Congratulations on being published!
Thank you!! Super cool to see my name in Road & Track! :D
I wonder how many read that will get compared to your TH-cam channels.
They did start with electric cars, though it got killed pretty quickly.
Exactly
Correct, but they weren't mainstream for the past 100 years like ICE.
Energy density too low, just recently became possible.
They got killed by the . . . wait for it. . . The electric starter. . .
@@dewiz9596 lol seriously.The steam cars were done in with that tiny starter motor as well.
Don't forget about the OTA range reductions some drivers have seen, and the fact that you are being GPS tracked and video recorded pretty much whenever you are driving.
Same goes if you have a cell phone in your pocket.
Same goes with every modern fossil car
@@EngineeringExplained yes, because I never leave home without my cell phone. Definitely.
Just because ICE cars do it doesn't mean you can't push back. States have laws requiring data disclosure. Use of those processes is used to evaluate customer sentiment.
“Yo I don’t care I just want a sweet car” 😂 well said
In Phoenix, we need a cooling steering wheel!
Prius prime has heated steering wheel WTH Tesla
@@ralanham76 2015 Nissan Leaf has both heated seats and stearing wheel.
I lived in the Mojave for three years, very close to death valley. It was brutal. I learned to leave white cloths or rags on my dashboard and steering wheel.
Very humorous intro! I'll be sure to pick up the recent Road and Track magazine to read your article
It's a bit old haha, June 2019. But I believe I'll be in March's Car & Driver!
This was really interesting. I have wondered what it's like to drive an electric car. Nice video and thanks.
EweChewBrrr go test drive a Tesla! Or Turo one
You get to pay almost twice as much for insurance (which negates your fuel savings) and if you get into an accident, it will probably be totalled if the battery pack suffers a scuff. It's insane how much it costs to repair these and the lead time on parts... Needs improvement.
I'd rather spend 25k on another Mazda 6.
Almost as fun as a car with a clutch but in a totally different way
Peter Petrakis not true for me. You might want to shop around. With Progressive my insurance actually went down a tiny bit compared to my similarly priced BMW.
Where as, based on my calculations, I will pay about 1/8th the price for electricity compared to the premium gas required by my old car.
I haven't seen any noticeable difference in insurance rates for Tesla versus volt versus Hyundai if you have a good driving record
Well done.... I finally have some information about the car that's relevant to me. Rear visibility is a concern for me and I appreciate your attention to that.
I've recently received my model 3 performance edition a day before Christmas 2019, and wow, this is absolutely the best, most convenient, comfortable car I've bought. The 0-60 mph time is within 3.5 seconds which is amazingly fast. Performance is not joke. Handling is also phenomenal for the weight and sedan class it is. Ive had no complaints other than the advertised mileage of 310 miles, realistically it's only gives you 240-250 miles on a full charge while driving as you would normally would. Also if you can charge at home/work with output of 20 mph, you're pretty much set for a commute that's within a daily 200 mile range commute. For those who live in apartment or don't have readily available charging, its much harder for you guys, it's possible but you'd have to visit a supercharger/third party charge stations more often. Tesla should have more stations coming soon in the future. Personally if you have the opportunity to test drive one for a day, I'd say try it out, despite being a 4 door sedan, this car is just as good or better han other much more expensive gasoline cars!
9:28 Yo, I don't care, I just wanna sweet car
Yes.
Sad this is true
A sweet car, not a soul less appliance.
I wish my apartment complex or job had charging stations. The EV charging infrastructure is the only thing holding me (and probably a lot of others) from pulling the trigger on buying one.
Same here. Only a small handfull of charging stations in my town. Until I move out of the condo or to something with a garage to install a charger, EVs just aren't a viable option for me. It would also be nice to have more ev options besides sedan or crossover (bleagh....). Where are the sporty coupes that don't cost more than a house??
Same here. For apartment dwellers making a switch to EVs is way harder. I do have a rapid charging station basically across the street but its a real bummer that its so expensive that it would be actually cheaper to stick with diesel. I will probably wait for a used ID3 or similar.
At least now politics have picked up the topic and are debating to give tenants the right to spend their own money on improving their landlord's garages with crucial infrastructure...
Some complexes do.
I hear ya, it's tough without a dedicated charging spot, and most apartments don't have it. I rented a garage at my old apartment which did have *one* outlet, which would be fine for smaller battery EVs. But most make it pretty tough.
@@EngineeringExplained It's also cheaper to charge an EV than it is to fill an ICE with gas as you mentioned in a previous video. Did you leave that out as a perk when mentioning the gas station bit because the public charging stations still cost a lot vs. having a charging station in your home?
This was the best sales pitch for electric vehicles I think I've ever watched. *starts browsing electric motorcycles*
I'm not bold enough to ride, but I imagine an EV bike would be stupid fun!
Geoffrey Marsh I can imagine an ev bike would be an instant wheelie machine considering most ICE bikes make power up top haha
Energica :-)
@@mohamedhussein5190 Maybe not, as they would be heavier.
rdizzy1 they would but that weight would still be mostly to the rear making it a wheelie machine unless the bike is awd
Thanks for making this video. I have to say this has changed my thinking of Tesla and electric cars in general. Not a small feat as old grumpy seasoned engineers tend to be strong minded.
I'm pausing the video at 3:40 to say this. This is the most excellent thought experiment and description of throttle response that I've ever heard in relation to the comparison of EV's and internal combustion engine vehicles. Bravo!
13:10 - not true. Basically you didn’t read the owners manual.. :)
There IS a manual emergency release handles on the back doors. BUT for child safety purposes (and to protect rear windows), they are hidden inside the door speaker. The speaker cover is easy to get off with just hands - so yeah, there IS manual emergency release handles in the rear too.
- The More You Know :D
Okay, cool. Guess every passenger had better pass the "where is the super hidden emergency door release handle" quiz before they get in.
...
Or Tesla could put the release handle in plain sight like every other car in existence.
@@mjc0961 every other car does not have a electrical button as the door opener, and therefore the need for an emergency release handle. It's a part of the design. :)
It's ONLY needed if there is an accident that completely shuts all electric power down, which is never heard of to this date yet. So you'll probably never need it anyway, unless you run red lights with 0% batteri and slam into a tree with 90mph lmao.
So don't worry about it dude. :)
Child safety purposes? Hidden inside the speaker? GTFO. essentially you just said, disassemble the door handle and find the mechanical portion of the latch.
That's only for the Model X. Unless it changed, the owner's manual states only the front doors have manual releases.
Yeah, or they could have made them visible and used a child safety lockout selector in the end of the door latch like everybody else. Pretty sure that feature isn't under a current patent.
If I could afford a Tesla I’d buy one. They are amazing machines. Yes they have their problems but overall the best electric vehicle. I wonder how well they do in Arizona or Nevada during the summer?
I live in TX and the external temperature only mildly affects overall battery performance. You can precondition the battery before you even drive the car right from your phone so it's no cause of concern at all.
"... It's a joke. Stop typing." 😆
At Tesla Model 3 you don't have to change the Coolant Liquid for the Battery at 4 years only on the old Model S ......they improve it !!👍
Damn it Jason, quit making me want to buy a Tesla 😂
Do it! There really isn't a better daily car out there for the price, no matter what you compare it to. :)
so did you buy? I would if I lived in a house ...
@@jimboTTT no I’m going to wait till tesla’s build quality improves a bit. I can’t justify paying 50k+ for a vehicle with door panels that aren’t aligned properly lol
@@macbookpro57 fair enough
@@macbookpro57 They've gotten a lot better in the last few years. I just got a model 3 last month and it's great!
I think the Model 3 Performance is an awesome car...I just can't end my love affair with manual transmissions.
I drive heavy duty trucks with 18 spd to get over that fetish. Getting very rare nowadays with lots of Automatic Euros and lots of pretend drivers that think they are supertruckers driving them.
Gears beats electricity. Only city vehicles benefits from electric power. As soon as a electric car needs to compete with a geared combustion engine cars they go wrong in SOME major way. Rant incoming! Copy pasted one.
Cost, Environment, Complexity. One of them ruin the electric car. Outside of small slow electric cars. Like a electric golf car you use when playing golf. Sacrificing safety and speed. But just strait up beats a combustion car. Since it get all the benefits of the engine choice.
Electric cars are heavy and wasteful. Making small city car with basically no impact safety nor good top speed might be the future. Simple cheap and good for the environment done right. Combustions cars can not beat a good electric car in this category.
Good driving techniques and a change in how we travel in cars would be better for the environment then heavy battery riddled electric cars. Removing safety concerns being the big factor. And why we travel. (and how)
Electric cars are heavy and running on mainly coal unless you specifically charge them with YOUR OWN produced reenable electric source. Since anyone and everyone is taking advantage and making money before anything else.
Just taking away the safety features of the car would minimize the batteries needed. And what damage the batteries have done to the planet needs to be taken into account. Just as well as the fuel used in a normal combustion car. So minimizing the batteries needed is the fight needed to beat a combustion engine. Simply put.
Saving on a resources that harms our world AND to change the way anyone travels. Just as much of a point as the first! Change the way we travel and why.
But that will not fly. So saving the planet are now all the sudden bad?
Imagen if the engines was made as efficient as possible without being to complex and prone to failure. And the driver and traffic had to adapt to it's wills and needs. Mind blown. No self driving and no impossible to repair vehicles when 5 years old or more.
Instead of touching the brakes we cut the engine off and cruised the remained of the way before stopping. Even having a electric engine helping out at lower speeds. Also being the starter of the combustion engine. Which can run on wood good stuff. Ethanol. Wood gas. Whatever.
Regenerating power for later use is also possible with that electric engine so even that is taken advantage of. Like if the roads where not used so in responsible we might be able to cut emissions down SO much by that change alone. But electric toy go fast and trendy. So we do that instead.
Na we make the vehicles fit lazy humans that pay for comfort and luxury in a safe bubble. Instead of making them cheap reliable and good of the environment. It is electrical so I'm saving the world!
But dangerous and strict need of drivers being got dam good at driving. It is funny how imagining a car being a tractor makes you driver slower and drive safer. Or if the car is not safe to collide with anything to being with.
And instead of using the brakes just let of the gas to early. To the point of needing to crawl under added power to get to the intersection or whatever. Never touching the brake or having to stop. Using the stored energy fully before doing any maneuver. And having a lower average speed where it matters. (crawling instead of braking to a stop)
This do not work when other drivers do not drive like that in a city for example. Or if the streets are overcrowded by people not in real need of being there. Just easy and comfy for them.
Very pleasant to drive a lorry and just have the time to cruise without using any diesel or brakes to your destination in sight. Compare that having to drive it like a F1 car to follow a time schedule. What is better for everyone? Having to rely on brakes VS almost not needing the engine turned on to get off the road and park? What drive style is best for anyone but the employer here.
@@TheDiner50 that's what's keeping me from electric. You need this massive battery that doesn't have the best range considering how long it takes to recharge. It gives me brick phone vibes. Or maybe 1980 IBM computer that took up a whole room. We need a battery that's a few hundred pounds and goes farther than ICE cars with gas tanks, that don't form dendrites and start wearing out after 5+ years. It'd also gotta recharge in ten minutes. Enough time to plug in, go to the restroom and buy some snacks so you can get back on the road.
Great show. Just want to mention, there are audio settings where you can adjust the sound to any point in the cabin. And, there is a setting as to how the early warning system works.
Ahhh, I have tried adjusting sound but not successfully, where is the early warning setting? Would certainly be helpful to myself (and probably other viewers).
@@EngineeringExplained Early Collision Warning is under the Autopilot settings. I set mine to "late" and stopped hearing it. Can be turned off entirely, too.
@@EngineeringExplained By default, Forward Collision Warning is
turned on. To turn it off or adjust its sensitivity,
touch Controls > Autopilot > Forward Collision
Warning. Instead of the default warning level
of Medium, you can turn the warning Off, or
you can choose to be warned Late or Early.
@@pjfry Thanks for letting me know! I've added a pinned comment to inform others, appreciate it!
I have a leaf, everyone underestimates how quick it is. It's like driving round in some sort of sleeper car.
Cold weather reduces the battery life by almost half. Tesla suggests people use the heated seats to keep warm BUT you need to have hot airflow to de-ice your windshield and keep it from fogging up in -40... Which lasts about 1-2 months of the year.
One of my favorite video's of yours to date!
Have you set your early collision warning to "late?" Helps a ton with the BEEPBEEPBEEPBEEP as you approach cars. I haven't heard it since setting it to late. Also, you're not OCD, the inability to set a specific charge percentage drives me nuts, too.
Just switched it to late, stoked to find out this is adjustable!
@@EngineeringExplained I'm stoked that after 1 full year, you NEVER went through ALL the options in your car... That would literary be the very first thing I would do, for days, until I know about every single functions on this car. You are not intellectually curious enough I guess. Because if you would, we wouldn't have this conversation.
Ramon Zarat I wish I had your elite intellectual curiosity, but here I remain, a fool! 🤷♂️
if you adjust it to "late" and still get warnings it means you're driving as a pirate
@@EngineeringExplained I don't think any of us would mind if you would just go ahead and block Ramon Zarat, as much as I like a big dose of negativity first thing in the morning. Great level-headed video, BTW.
Jason, you are brilliant Sir! By approaching the 1yr review from this angle you eliminate the ice-bias/reluctance to change - just brilliant. Ingenious solution.
"Yo I don't care, i just want a sweet car," pretty much sums it up.
I'm driving my ICE and saving for a M3. Everytime I go to a gas station, I just tell myself that one day I will no longer have to pump gas.
That's beautiful!
Are you any closer to your goal??
You should put you savings in Tesla stock. I have done it and it already doubled. 👍
I know the feeling. Standing at the pump freezing my butt off and thinking if I had a M3, I could just wake up to a fully charged car each morning and never have to go to a gas station... well except for a slurpee. lol
Wow, I listened to several people reviewing this car. I guess it takes an engineer to notice things that are not just beauty or acceleration related. Thanks for the details that nobody else mentioned!
so many valid arguements; I'm a pretty dead on ICE guy through and through but have had EV plans down the road, definitely made me rethink. Thank you
That epic ass sense of humor back at again to straight up brighten my day with a wonderful surprise XD
I've noticed other vehicles that have smart driving/warning systems also seem to engage "emergency warnings" too early. My guess would be it's a business decision to prevent unnecessary law suits for the car "not warning soon enough". Until tort reform, we're stuck with this behavior (in the USA anyway).
I noticed it on a 2019 Honda Civic I drove recently. It wasn't mine, though, so I wasn't going to change the sensitivity even if that was an option.
@_ David _ I'm referring to even the most sensitive of settings. I had a 2017 Maxima Platinum and it 3 sensitivity settings, and even the most aggressive one was a bit too passive for my tastes. I've noted this trend across several makes/models and several smart-driving software options.
Great job on reversing the standard perspective. Might want to consider “Psychology Explained”.
I agree with all of your criticisms of the model 3. I also agree that it's the best car I've ever had and I'll probably keep it for many decades.
Thank you. Turning this around was needing done, 'what if EVs were here first in mass numbers' sort of thing. Enjoying this fresh perspective very much, you do it well.
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4:40 excuse me... the lexus LFA is the best sounding car ever
This is 100% true. Carrera GT a close second.
I've never heard one. :'( I've seen a couple in person, but always parked.
Just had to look that up, never heard it before. Kind of sounds like a formula one or something. Not my taste but I can see the appeal. I used the love the sound of the E39 M5, I like the sound of the R8, actually I like the sound of an old Detroit Diesel or a Ford 7.3 diesel with a little work done to it, but that's a different animal.
Jeremy Specce you had me in the first half
Lamborghini V12
13:09 - Probably this is a safety feature. An emergency release in the back seats is dangerous if you have childs there.
I agree with a lot of things he had pointed out and, the way he implemented why electric cars are better than gas cars was a great example! I am staring to hate gas cars a lot more now, they are starting to become a nuisance with how much you need to worry about maintenance with a lot of components over time. Hopefully one day in my future, I can finally buy a Tesla
Really, I like the driving involvement of the ICE but the electric car is really a simpler build with loads of advantages. The MAIN one is the lack of fume emissions.
The disadvantage of the EV is just the road trip point all the others mentioned are manufacturer build problems.
But great points raised in support of the EV (10 advantages).
Hey Jason, you can set the exact charging percentage from the app.
TIL - Amazing! Why is this not accessible in the car?! I like 80% because it gives full regen if temps are warm enough.
There's the problem, there is so much convoluted software with nested submenus on this vehicle that even after a year of an enthusiast driving it, he still can't figure it out.
You know what else the app can do? Make a non-refundable $7,000 upgrade by accidently pressing a button. Tesla doesn't even use secondary confirmation. You can butt dial your way to poverty.
okleydokley there is a secondary confirmation for Apple Pay (on iPhone obviously), maybe not on android though.
Engineering Explained they still need to make the slider snap to every 5 increments. It looks like it’s actually snapping to 3 or something, which means you can’t snap to 80%. I always get 81% which is super irritating to people who have minor OCD like me lol.
I drive a Chevy volt and I have to agree with every point you make. I don't think I will go back to an internal combustion engine even though I consider myself a car guy. Electric is just too good
Chris Sullivan Cool! I used to have (still do have it in the family) a 2014 Chevy volt and loved it, bought it with 6.5k miles in late 2015 and now it has 66k miles. I have since switch to a Model 3 due to me driving more (20k miles a year) but love both. For me it was a great “stepping stone” to pure EV also the Volt isn’t slow like most fuel efficient cars
@@ValidAsian yeah, i would love to go to a model 3 or something. I LOVE the volt simply for lack of range anxiety and just how easy it is to drive in the city. It's a great car all around. I'm on my 3rd year with it and i can't imagine what i will wasn't too replace it with. I just can't see going back to anoyong gas station trips
Crestfallen Plinth Chevy overbuilt the battery, especially for Gen 1. You could only use 60% (40% was dedicated to longevity management) of it and they are known to last over 400k miles
@@NeoHCgbz why? The 2011 models have experienced zero degradation, mine is a late 2013 model so i have 2 years left on my battery warning and it still gets me 50-55 miles per charge (well over the 38 listed). nothing says an ICE engine has to be able to live longer than 5 years, much less 8 for the EV batterY. Mini coopers, bmw, Mercedes, and Audi all have more expensive problems that crop up as soon as the 3-5 year warranty disappears. I'm at 45k miles with 2 oil changes, practically new, original brakes, 22 gallons of gas used, 1 coolant flush at the 5 year mark, and no other maintenance or any issues at all.
@@NeoHCgbz also, you don't generally pay for the whole pack when one gets weak. Simple battery management and Chevy did a great job with theirs
Jason, I love your content. I also agree with most of your points in the video comparing EV to ICE vehicles.
HOWEVER......
I feel like you had ONE really really BIG miss here. If comparing today's EV tech and today's ICE tech, I think that people would be absolutely over the moon with joy for the ability of towing, camping, off-roading, etc that ICE vehicles do VERY well.
No complaints on your content, I was just a little bummed that you missed that point when comparing. Especially since you sometimes collab with the guys at TFL Car/TFL Truck.
Anyway, love the video bro! Keep up the awesome content!
I get what you're saying and agree with you to a certain extent, but I think you're kinda missing the point. EVs will soon totally have the capability to do all these things, but the problem is superchargers still aren't extremely common. I think he's referring to a hypothetical world where EVs can already do these things very well and superchargers are everywhere. However, I think a definite real complaint is the wait for charging times, and people would be super happy with ICE vehicles if they still remained at the same charging times today. The good news is charging only gets faster and faster and EVs are getting better everyday, but it still makes sense as to why someone would want an ICE in current times.
Gas Stations: Here's something I'm curious about. As the number of electric cars on the road increases, how does that compare to the rate at which gas stations will disappear? Like, I have a feeling that the comparison of num_electric_cars to num_gas_stations will follow something like a logistic growth curve. We might be approaching the point where for every 5% increase in electric cars on the road, the number of gas stations will decrease by (say) 10%. Gas stations that today are making (say) 20% profit might be able to stay in business for a long time, while gas stations that are making (say) 5% profit close within a year or two. In the suburbs where there tends to be a gas station on almost every thoroughfare corner, a lot of those redundant gas stations just won't be needed any more. And what happens to the lonely gas stations that are found along long rural routes? They'll still be needed, but they'll be less profitable, so will they get away with charging more for gas to support the fewer drivers who do need them? I think it'd be really interesting to see an explanation of a projection about how the increase in electric cars will affect the frequency with which we see gas stations. Fifteen years from now, will gas stations seem like a bit of an anachronistic novelty?
People will still need food and drinks and a toilet stop
Difficult to stay in business though, without the revenue of gasoline sales.
Spot on. I have the dual motor version, had it for a year. With the exception of the wheels, I'd list an identical set of pros and cons. Yes, reducing the sensitivity of the collision warning does make a difference, but I still find it too reactive. All in all though, a FANTASTIC car. Best one I have ever owned and it's not even close.
To be fair to automatic transmissions, electric cars were also invented 100 years ago and they too are only now becoming any good😂
Yeah but they weren’t mainstream and the lack of competition in making them better stagnated their advancement. Look how much progress tesla alone has made in the past ten years, give it a couple more decades when other manufacturers also spend billions into research and development and then we’ll finally get real battery tech advances.
To development of electric cars has been ignored for the last hundred years. Only in the last 15 years has there been any serious investment in them, and in those 15 years electric cars have improved more than gas cars have in the last hundred years lol 🤣
Danie van Rensburg
“... in 1899 ninety percent of New York City’s taxi cabs were electric vehicles. This fleet of electric cars was built by the Electric Carriage and Wagon Company of Philadelphia. Not only that, but in 1899 and 1900, electric cars outsold all other types of cars, such as gas and steam powered vehicles.”
Were they mainstream for 100 years? No...
To be fair battery technology has sucked for the last 100 years. And we use batteries for other things, so it's not like there wasn’t constant research into making them better during that time.
Where do I begin 🤔🤔... Congrats on getting published that's HUGE!!! I ALWAYS NEW you better than anything in print media.
OH Thank you for:
The 10 points
The reverse logic for ICE 😂🤣
The annoying mom warning 😂🤣
The fix for the annoying mom warning 👍😎
The best selling of an electric car I’ve ever seen
Yes, the electric car has instant torque, as electrons move quickly through wire. I still think the combustion engine is amazing for what it is, only too bad the fuel is oil.
The throttle on my Skoda Superb 190DSG reacts how I want. But it is a fly by wire system that learns my driving style. My better half cannot get used to it.
This same car also can heat itself, but it does require the engine running. It's part of the quickclear system. It's lovely. Same with the cooling.
I'd love a Tesla, for a lot of my driving it would be fine, the things stopping me
1) I have two very large dogs and a family, there just isn't the options
2) I tow, our family holidays are in a caravan, the range and the towing on top are just a non-starter
3) The price, they're a lot of money and I've heard they are still selling them at a loss
5:10 [Rich Rebuilds wants to know your location]
Sure there are special cases ...
But that is also true for some ICE cars :)
Hey- my 2019 Camry XSE doesn’t sound THAT bad...exhaust is decent, engine is quiet when not flogging it.
But I would kill for a Tesla Model 3, upper trim.
Daemon Silver It may seem to not sound that bad and the exhaust may seem decent, but you have learned to tune those sounds and smells out. Drive an EV for 6 months and then try driving your Camry and you will be surprised at how your perspective will change.
My Chevy Bolt has a heated wheel. :D
Yeah but GM is not a cult lead by Pope Elon.
@@truantray Another point in the Bolt's favor if you ask me.
I have a Bolt too, and up North a heated steering wheel has become a must for me. On the downside we don't get s/w updates even for small improvements that newer models get. GM needs to smarten up!
@@RBDelorme True! Mine was quite nice in the -37C last week. No problems like most of my ICE co-workers had! (Heated Seats!)
Trey My Leaf also has a heated steering wheel, which I have come to love in Canadian winters.
My guess is they don’t need them in California, so Elon cut it to save a few pennies.
An electric car may be practical BUT I have a 4 wheel drive Tacoma and i can tow a 5000 pound camper with it. No electric truck can do that practically yet. About off roading...yes an ICE engine does have a limit as to how deep mud and water one can traverse....but an all electric truck will not do well because the motors are near the wheels and i am confident to say electric motors and water/mud do not mix well at all. Now, you may say yes but those motors are sealed from water...just like the Titanic was unsinkable eh.
Amazing review!!!!! Very good points! I like the reversed comparison in the beginning!
Love this exercise in thought 💭
I really want to like EV but I just refuse to buy a car that cant drive even 1/4 of the way across texas. It makes road trips last 2x longer and that's a deal breaker for me
drive 3 hours, charge 30 min, drive 3 more hours, at least with tesla. I wouldn't exactly call that 2x more. You'd have to fill gas at least once as well most likely.
Snowblack Mulan I have a model 3, and no one charges to 100% every stop. You charge to around 80% which takes 30 min almost every time, sometimes 20-25 min on v3.
The heated steering wheel update comment had me dying lol
All are very good points.
A small detail. The "braking warning system" has 3 adjustable levels of sensitivity. If you are using the least sensitive and still having it triggered then perhaps you need to consider to keep safer distance or drive slower in busy areas. That is amazing how everyone consider themselves good drivers :)
I have exactly same car (even same wheels style but 19s), the "warning" is set to Medium, and it almost never triggers.
Regarding the environment: As you say it is a discussion wether electrical cars saves the planet or not. BUT more electrical cars are gold for the air quality specially in dense cities. Oslo, Norway is a totally different city now that about 50% of the cars are electric. Huge difference !
I still think electric cars are a bit iffy, but this is 100% undeniable. It simply doesn't make sense for ICE cars to start up in the cold and idle in one big traffic jam in a city. Even if it's a perfect world with all vehicle engines emission compliant, it's still hugely wasteful. It's very hard on the engines as well, electric excells for this.
"relax, stop typing" - like that's gonna happen
"these petrol engines are noisy, and you have to always shift gears".
Hold my drink, I need to run out of here; in my S2000. :D
Wow. Save the environment. No erasable markers were used in the production of this episode 😀
I just ordered my first Model 3 Performance, I had a 21 Mach-E and absolutely loved it... I now own a 2016 Rattly, stinky, Wrangler; I fealt every word you said about coming from an electric car and the lag with internal combustion.
Some solid points. For me the road trip ability is a tough pill to swallow. I also park outside on the street. I also anticipate big issues with electricity supply in the future as these are more widely adopted and with higher amp charging systems, at least where I live. So eventually, I think the fuel cost savings will become insignificant. Things I do not like about tesla are the giant touchscreen, their parts/maintenance policy, and the body aesthetics.
In an alternate timeline, where EVs have been the status-quo for a hundred years, and ICE cars are being introduced to mitigate the photon-electron continuum degradation:
People: We hate ICEVs!
Other People: Why?
Agent Smith: It's the smell!
Hey Jason, do you have one of those easy to digest videos of yours explaining how air brakes on buses and trucks work? The ones on TH-cam aren't easy to visualise.
Apologies, I do not! That's a good idea though. I feel like I've explained most things, but air brakes hadn't come up. I do have a video on Jake Brakes (which most vehicles using air brakes will tend to use engine braking as well). th-cam.com/video/o8Cta2cC2Co/w-d-xo.html
My model S door handle just stopped working last night. Super common problem. Really pisses me of that everything else is awesome, but such a simple part commonly fails. No complaints otherwise.
Love your videos. You are the first TH-camr I have seen that has mentioned the poor rear visibility. I have a Model 3 Performance and I feel like all of the mirrors are unusually small or maybe it is because the BMWs and Raptors are so far behind me when I check out where they are after they challenge me.
It's been 36 days now since I've been able to drive my Model 3 LR AWD while it sits at a Tesla-certified body shop getting a frunk hood replaced (160 hail dents) and 200 more hail dents removed via PDR on the rest of the car. In the meantime, I've "suffered" through driving our gas car, a Honda CR-V, with the 1.5L Turbo and CVT. You don't know lag until you combine a turbocharged engine with a CVT. With that car, you step on it, and once it finally responds, you end up backing off as it ends up being too little too late. I keep telling myself, just one more week as the completion estimates continue to stretch on until I can drive something responsive again!
“it’s a joke. quit typing.” Jason look at you being a top notch entertainment god.
Seems like a bit of the footage was damaged
Ugh, I tried to go through and fix everything, rewatched multiple times. Not sure why, editing was getting messy with the 4K60 video (uploaded 4K30), and some of it unfortunately didn't seem to render correctly.
@@EngineeringExplained nah. Probably just haters and picky people are going to complain about that (I guess that makes me a part of them?) Nice vid nevertheless
@@chelarestelar its not hate. an observation. use it to improve or leave it
@@CHAITHANYAkitta well, I didn't mean it in the sense of saying "hey, I noticed this weird thing in the vid" but rather in the sense of "whining"
My mom’s 2006 Maxima has a heated steering wheel... I’m highly surprised and disappointed the model 3 does not.
(Still going to buy one lol)
Does model Y have it? I think it will be better than the 3 by a huge margin anyways.
My mom has a jag with a heated wheel, about a 2007/2009 model i think. It's tied into the heated seats which I find annoying because the wheel gets HOT well before the seats are toasty, and it would be great to be able to have that heated wheel for that initial chill, but it makes you want to turn off the heated seats to avoid feeling like you're playing hot potato.
so your mom car has the steering on the seat???
Kamikaze e30 haha, nope but the heated seats and heated steering wheel are in the same switch. If it was my car I'd probably put a cut-off switch for the heated steering wheel so I could just do the seats. But, it's not and my mom drives less than a 1,000 miles a year and they use their Subaru when it's cold out anyway.
Don't need it. Pre heat car using app
I personally have never liked the idea of an electric car of any ddescription, but having watched this video and hearing your way point of if we had electric first and the engine was to come out now, you;ve made some extremely good points and why auto manufacturers dont advertise their cars this way truly baffles me!
Ordered my Model LR. Can’t wait for April!
Perfectly presented mate, excellent video. Every single time I jumped ahead in my mind, you said it ten seconds later.
Very very much appreciate you keeping it real too, a brave thing to do in the modern world.
Your joke about SW update for heated steering wheel- I was thinking “has Tesla fandom made him lose his mind?”
My 2014 RAM has a heated steering wheel. It really seems like an oversight, given all the other features.
I'm all for a E daily car. But my race car gotta be a gas cuz I like to feel/hear the power come on as the RPM's rise. Electric is boring, it's like a on off switch
Kenneth Porst There is certainly room for both. One a daily and the other a weekend play thing for extra fun at the track.
I am sure go kart drivers have heaps more fun on the track than us. I mean, most F1 drivers seem to have started there
This is a VERY cool perspective. Love it!
I baught a used 2015 Nissan Leaf for $7,000. It came with both heated seats and a heated stearing wheel. After 5 years my Leaf is still running great.
Heated steering wheel ota update. :)
They wanted people to talk about it. It wouldn't work without the heating element put in.
"What better thing to hate on than change"
I feel like this describes almost every enthusiast ever
After driving my Model 3, it’s hard to go back to the ICE. Even the best turbocharged or supercharged 6 and 8 cylinder engines no longer feel that quick or smooth.
"Feel" being the key word. Like vtec "feels" fast because of the peaky powerband. Your model 3 would get destroyed by a turbo V8 car to 120, they just keep pulling when you're out of steam by 80. As long as you're happy, that's all that really matters though, there's always something faster.
This video put me over the edge, ordered a Model 3 Performance + after viewing. Jason, 1000 miles should be on the way! :-)
Great take on electric vehicles . Thankyou