I'd only ever ridden the Intamin Gyro Swing and KMG Afterburner before so when I first came across one of these Huss Frisbees it looked very old fashioned! You could tell it was an evolution of the classic swinging pirate ship ride, as the swing drive system looks almost identical! Still a very fun ride! And working in engineering myself - yeah you don't want us talking directly to the customers!
So I rode a traveling HUSS Frisbee here in FL six years ago. If I recall, someone mentioned that it needed city power to swing high as generator power couldn’t produce high swings. Also, just like the on ride video, the shake of the gondola felt weird when the keel touched the tires.
On a Huss topspin I worked on, we had a bit of fibreglass that was molded to the shape of the seat. Im not 100% on how it was used as I was an operator and not technician, but there was a steel bars and a plastic dome on the end. This was the seat sensor checker. I vaguely remember that they would put it in the seat and it was adjusted so that it was very close the the closed position, but not quite there. So in theory, the ride should not say the restraint was closed with this in place. Basically making sure that the ride would only give the all clear when the restraints were below a certain amount.
@@DavidPlant1985 that device on the topspin I worked with was used for the bleed down test. Close the restraints and shut off the power and the restraint can’t raise more than 10mm in 10minutes (I think it was 10 min) if it moved too far then the restraints had to be tagged out. Never used ours to check the limit switches at all.
@@ryantheridemechanic That might have been what it was used for, but Im fairly sure they used it to check if the ride would give an all clear signal with it in place as well. This was almost 20 years ago though, so I might be recalling incorrectly.
The air bladders are called air springs. They are used on truck suspension. Huss used a lot of tech from Trucks. The "thing" with the wood checking device is known as the minimum closed position limit switch in modern times. lmao.
I love when I can get a mech to talk about the rides he (sorry I have only ran into one female in the industry) takes care of. You can learn so much about those particular machines and the things they have had to do. I wish more would talk and not have that mech face I call it that blank but serious dont ask look. Because trust me Im going to watch you and speculate on the issue as you fix it. Just tell me so I can learn, I wont tell the other guests they are usually stupid acting and panic easy. I do understand why you dont and wont say anything, though.
I only rode Cedar Point's Huss maXair twice. Of course they have to break records with the biggest and baddest every time. As I mentioned, the OTSR's are thick and can constrain you too much i.e. you might not be able to breathe is why I don't. That doesn't happen to everyone but I don't want it to happen to me. You can see Magnum though. I'll tell you this much it's huge & heavy compared to Kings Island's Delirium. I rode that thing on an empty stomach and didn't realize how much faster it swung and spun, but made sense after I thought about it. It's the only ride I wasn't losing breath on that I wanted it to stop lol (I think I accidentally clicked thumbs down before I clicked thumbs up if you get one of those lol When I filled out surveys in the past I kept complaining to TH-cam they shouldn't actually show thumbs down publicly unless you have a ridiculous amount of subs and comments that you don't even read i.e. not fair to grass roots creators and rude especially when people don't comment to back it up. I guess they listened. I'm convinced I was also one of the first to manually create the end screen links. I always make a photoshop screen so they don't go over the video, but it's fun for me to do)
@@amusement420 no worries. I see a percentage of thumbs up that’s all. But doing this you can’t have thin skin at all or you will get beat down and stop.
When the Huss Frisbee at my home park first opened, (I wasn't there, heard the story from multiple employees) someone thought it was a good idea to have a combine hot dog eating and spinning on the Frisbee. Pretty sure this was an employee night kind of event. They just ran the spinning part, no swinging. Whoever could keeps it down the longest won, I guess. In line with your large guest story, I'm aware of one instance where the ride faulted mid cycle due to large guest with limit switch right on the edge. Maintenance arrived, unloaded, test ran and reopened. Same guest got back on and it happened again mid cycle. 3 times total before the guest moved on.
You mentioned having the servo motors rebuilt, but how about the gearboxes? It looks like they're subject to a really heinous ammout of stress at certain points in the cycle particularly when the motor needs to reverse the drive tire quickly. I'd imagine oil change PMs and backlash checks must be pretty regular.
@@haunter_1845 honestly never had a problem with the service of them. Just change the oil that is. Only had 1 crack in half but that was the only one. Broke the case casting.
@@ryantheridemechanic I was on Talocan, the Huss Suspended Top Spin where the arms came out of true, which you made a video about, in that exact ride cycle when it did that. I recall being so confident in this that the most prominent thought was actually “what if we get down now and the restraints won‘t open“ rather than “oh my, I‘m gonna die“, having seen this ride suffer from a similar problem, after which the restraints also didn‘t open. So yeah, I think it‘s fair to say I too trust them in terms of safety.
How much wear on the top arm bearings do you suspect may be caused by the non-parrellel drive wheels imparting an out of plane motion on the swing arm?
Is it possible to talk about things that rides do to self rescue? You spoke recently on the support lines added to the concrete for the ride that got stuck and recently some friends got to experience the backwards/relaunch on Velocicoaster where the ride moves backwards out of the second launcher to allow it to approach with some momentum. I find that kind of engineering fascinating
When I worked at the dealership, the service writers would never let us mechanics talk directly to the customers either. Very rare situations where you need more info from them such as when, where, how, a problem happens with intermittent problems. But many tines the repair order had "idiot customer, and you are an idiot for not telling them how they are an idiot" written on it, with my tech number on it.
I'd like to wish Niagara Amusement Park at Fantasy Island good luck with their Huss Frisbee named Midway Mayhem formally Revolution from Six Flags Great America.
@@ryantheridemechanic My thoughts? Go over the differences of operator controls vs. mechanic controls for one thing....discuss the platform operator's safety switches that must be satisfied for ride start/dispatch. Maybe pick a ride and, if it is allowed, show the ops manual on how a "typical" cycle is started.
Well the drive alignment would explain the stress cracks and wear on the keel...and I'm betting you were going through drive tires at a much faster rate as well. Not to mention the figure eight motion was rough on the swingarm and slewing rings....yikes!
From what I can tell at the ol' Wikipedia [citation needed], HUSS is the only manufacturer to call theirs 'Frisbees'. And since they were the first to make 'em, that's what the general word is. Given the world 'Frisbee' is a registered trademark of Wham-O, this is of questionable legality. Different industries, I guess. The most common make these days is Zamperla, who calls theirs 'Discoveries'. SBF Visa calls theirs 'Dance Parties' and Intamin probably has the best and most informative name: 'Gyro Swing'. Figures.
@@ryantheridemechanic I was thinking that a park layout and designing a park would make an interesting discussion. Hidden Mickey’s are literally everywhere. For example a Viking in the mural at Norway is wearing Mouse Ears.
I'd only ever ridden the Intamin Gyro Swing and KMG Afterburner before so when I first came across one of these Huss Frisbees it looked very old fashioned! You could tell it was an evolution of the classic swinging pirate ship ride, as the swing drive system looks almost identical! Still a very fun ride!
And working in engineering myself - yeah you don't want us talking directly to the customers!
@@m00gal right! Need that buffer between customer and the back end.
Getting that motor out is like a real-life game of Operation
@@FloriDUH_JBot for drive 1 yes.
And the buzzer when you hit the pac man mouth in the gondola was an added bonus.
As a disc golfer , I kinda wanted you to go more in depth on the frisbee. 😂
@@shawnrw3727 I thought about it!
"Gravity, that thing still works" Man I sure hope so!
We would call that "264 (or whatever) mm block of wood" a "go/no go gauge"
Fiesta Texas had a Frisbee for a while. It was one of my favorite rides in the park
(note I am talking about an original Huss Frisbee, not the Joker)
So I rode a traveling HUSS Frisbee here in FL six years ago. If I recall, someone mentioned that it needed city power to swing high as generator power couldn’t produce high swings. Also, just like the on ride video, the shake of the gondola felt weird when the keel touched the tires.
everything is flexible and moves on those drive systems, this the shake you feel.
On a Huss topspin I worked on, we had a bit of fibreglass that was molded to the shape of the seat. Im not 100% on how it was used as I was an operator and not technician, but there was a steel bars and a plastic dome on the end. This was the seat sensor checker. I vaguely remember that they would put it in the seat and it was adjusted so that it was very close the the closed position, but not quite there. So in theory, the ride should not say the restraint was closed with this in place. Basically making sure that the ride would only give the all clear when the restraints were below a certain amount.
@@DavidPlant1985 that device on the topspin I worked with was used for the bleed down test. Close the restraints and shut off the power and the restraint can’t raise more than 10mm in 10minutes (I think it was 10 min) if it moved too far then the restraints had to be tagged out. Never used ours to check the limit switches at all.
@@ryantheridemechanic That might have been what it was used for, but Im fairly sure they used it to check if the ride would give an all clear signal with it in place as well. This was almost 20 years ago though, so I might be recalling incorrectly.
@ no worries. Time makes things fuzzy for sure.
The air bladders are called air springs. They are used on truck suspension. Huss used a lot of tech from Trucks. The "thing" with the wood checking device is known as the minimum closed position limit switch in modern times. lmao.
Or probably "MCPLS" fin the biz or short lol
I love when I can get a mech to talk about the rides he (sorry I have only ran into one female in the industry) takes care of. You can learn so much about those particular machines and the things they have had to do. I wish more would talk and not have that mech face I call it that blank but serious dont ask look. Because trust me Im going to watch you and speculate on the issue as you fix it. Just tell me so I can learn, I wont tell the other guests they are usually stupid acting and panic easy. I do understand why you dont and wont say anything, though.
I only rode Cedar Point's Huss maXair twice. Of course they have to break records with the biggest and baddest every time.
As I mentioned, the OTSR's are thick and can constrain you too much i.e. you might not be able to breathe is why I don't. That doesn't happen to everyone but I don't want it to happen to me. You can see Magnum though.
I'll tell you this much it's huge & heavy compared to Kings Island's Delirium. I rode that thing on an empty stomach and didn't realize how much faster it swung and spun, but made sense after I thought about it. It's the only ride I wasn't losing breath on that I wanted it to stop lol
(I think I accidentally clicked thumbs down before I clicked thumbs up if you get one of those lol When I filled out surveys in the past I kept complaining to TH-cam they shouldn't actually show thumbs down publicly unless you have a ridiculous amount of subs and comments that you don't even read i.e. not fair to grass roots creators and rude especially when people don't comment to back it up. I guess they listened. I'm convinced I was also one of the first to manually create the end screen links. I always make a photoshop screen so they don't go over the video, but it's fun for me to do)
@@amusement420 no worries. I see a percentage of thumbs up that’s all. But doing this you can’t have thin skin at all or you will get beat down and stop.
I say “gondola” the same way! Haha! I also mispronounce “pagoda”, which is a problem at Cedar Point (favorite gift shop).
Thanks for the video Ryan!
@@CritterCrossingFam your welcome
I’m sorry but I hate the way Ryan says gondola lol
@@spinba11 my husband laughs whenever I say things a certain way … I’m sure he’s cringing on the inside. Oh well 😂
When the Huss Frisbee at my home park first opened, (I wasn't there, heard the story from multiple employees) someone thought it was a good idea to have a combine hot dog eating and spinning on the Frisbee. Pretty sure this was an employee night kind of event. They just ran the spinning part, no swinging. Whoever could keeps it down the longest won, I guess.
In line with your large guest story, I'm aware of one instance where the ride faulted mid cycle due to large guest with limit switch right on the edge. Maintenance arrived, unloaded, test ran and reopened. Same guest got back on and it happened again mid cycle. 3 times total before the guest moved on.
@@garychlastawa8277 sound like the exact same story. I felt bad but nothing I could do.
You mentioned having the servo motors rebuilt, but how about the gearboxes? It looks like they're subject to a really heinous ammout of stress at certain points in the cycle particularly when the motor needs to reverse the drive tire quickly. I'd imagine oil change PMs and backlash checks must be pretty regular.
@@haunter_1845 honestly never had a problem with the service of them. Just change the oil that is. Only had 1 crack in half but that was the only one. Broke the case casting.
@ryantheridemechanic That's impressive, I guess they were more than adequately oversized. Thanks!
Can you explain a pirate ship next lol😂
@@FooMoon_55 like and intamin looping ship or a Zamperla galleon?
The one that sails in the ocean. 😂
I get irrationally nervous when I see the Huss nameplate on a ride, its irrational because they always feel so safe and I enjoy their rides very much
@@TrueLies23 I’ve never had a problem with their stuff as in feeling unsafe.
@@ryantheridemechanic I was on Talocan, the Huss Suspended Top Spin where the arms came out of true, which you made a video about, in that exact ride cycle when it did that. I recall being so confident in this that the most prominent thought was actually “what if we get down now and the restraints won‘t open“ rather than “oh my, I‘m gonna die“, having seen this ride suffer from a similar problem, after which the restraints also didn‘t open. So yeah, I think it‘s fair to say I too trust them in terms of safety.
@ryantheridemechanic exactly, me neither. I'll never be able to understand why the nameplate makes me feel nervous 😂
My favourite Huss...
Followed by the beak dance and Top Spin.
Always trust a Huss.
@ I see “HUSS” I think…. This is heavy! Haha!
How much wear on the top arm bearings do you suspect may be caused by the non-parrellel drive wheels imparting an out of plane motion on the swing arm?
@@johnmichael1979 not much of any at all as the structure can just flex to allow the same thing.
Is it possible to talk about things that rides do to self rescue? You spoke recently on the support lines added to the concrete for the ride that got stuck and recently some friends got to experience the backwards/relaunch on Velocicoaster where the ride moves backwards out of the second launcher to allow it to approach with some momentum. I find that kind of engineering fascinating
0:21 I had a suspicion you would do that lol
Frisbee golf is a great game 😂
When I worked at the dealership, the service writers would never let us mechanics talk directly to the customers either. Very rare situations where you need more info from them such as when, where, how, a problem happens with intermittent problems. But many tines the repair order had "idiot customer, and you are an idiot for not telling them how they are an idiot" written on it, with my tech number on it.
New sub here, great video very fascinating
@@christopherpenketh959Welcome! And thank you! Enjoy!
I'm not sea sick !! You're sea sick.
I'd like to wish Niagara Amusement Park at Fantasy Island good luck with their Huss Frisbee named Midway Mayhem formally Revolution from Six Flags Great America.
Is there any way you can do a video on control panels? Thanks
its a vast topic, every single thing is different, any thoughts to narrow that down?
@@ryantheridemechanic My thoughts? Go over the differences of operator controls vs. mechanic controls for one thing....discuss the platform operator's safety switches that must be satisfied for ride start/dispatch. Maybe pick a ride and, if it is allowed, show the ops manual on how a "typical" cycle is started.
Yeah lock thouse mechanics in the dungeon and don’t let them out in the light where they can talk to customers!!! Lol!!
Well the drive alignment would explain the stress cracks and wear on the keel...and I'm betting you were going through drive tires at a much faster rate as well. Not to mention the figure eight motion was rough on the swingarm and slewing rings....yikes!
From what I can tell at the ol' Wikipedia [citation needed], HUSS is the only manufacturer to call theirs 'Frisbees'. And since they were the first to make 'em, that's what the general word is. Given the world 'Frisbee' is a registered trademark of Wham-O, this is of questionable legality. Different industries, I guess. The most common make these days is Zamperla, who calls theirs 'Discoveries'. SBF Visa calls theirs 'Dance Parties' and Intamin probably has the best and most informative name: 'Gyro Swing'. Figures.
@@cloudyvortex good info thanks!!
How many tires per season?
we didn't have a lot of run time on ours so we only did about 3 sets (6 tires) per season.
Gonedoller?
I work on a chance sea dragon
Would you do a video about………Hidden Mickeys? 😂
@@DougYeager-i8b hmmmm. What about them? Like whey they are there? Or … what’s your thought.
@@ryantheridemechanic I was thinking that a park layout and designing a park would make an interesting discussion. Hidden Mickey’s are literally everywhere. For example a Viking in the mural at Norway is wearing Mouse Ears.
Just think about the air gates.
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Wait........ how is gondola "properly" pronounced, since I'm obviously just as unrefined as you are.
@@Spike-sk7ql I ain’t not no how haha