Throughout history there has always been a bad seed in the royal family. They need to take the attention off of the "good" boy and put all the attention on the "bad" boy. I think people should leave them alone. If she is really a narcissist, it will make her nuts. Stop putting her face in the media and no one will care.
She's your standard greedy, envious climber who uses people until they're no longer a useful stepping stone to where she wants to be. Is that narcissistic? Evil? Downright psychotic? I vote all of the above. She worships money & desires subjects that cater to her ego. What a pathetic way to waste the 1 life we are each given.
Fascinated that Markle never seems to reflect on her bad behavior. She makes the same mistakes repeatedly, but never changes so she must not regret any of her behavior. I guess that explains the emptiness in her soul & her narcissism.
I think a really great comparison to make is between Meghan Markle and the late singer/songwriter George Michael. George absolutely hated celebrities who used charity to bolster their celebrity status. He even wrote a song where he says "charity is a coat you wear twice a year". We all knew that George supported charities. When the late Princess Diana asked George to headline a concert called the Concert of Hope for her AIDS charity George said yes immediately. He also was one of the artist who performed at the Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert. It is consider one of his best performances of all time. Unlike all the other artist it was important to George that he actually pay tribute to his friend and an icon of his since his childhood. He practiced with the remaining band members of Queen for a full week ahead of the concert where others artist showed up the day before and practiced with the band one time. When George passed all of the charities and individuals he helped started coming out of the woodwork to tell their story. His generosity was truly staggering. From donating all the proceeds of many of his top hits to charity to giving a waitress a $5,000 tip when he overheard her complain about student debt. He did all of these things on the condition that it would be done anonymously. George felt it should not be about him but about the people he was trying to help. For Meghan, it is the absolute opposite. She would do nothing for charity if she wasn't being credited for doing so or actually being paid for doing so. As H. G. said, she has no self-awareness of how bad this makes her look. She will throw out that she is going to do something charitable and the immediate attention she gets just by making the announcement is often enough for her. She needn't put herself out further. I made this comparison on my own and then one day heard H.G make the comparison himself. I was blown away and so happy that someone was able to make this comparison of a truly charitable kind-hearted person to one who is most definitely not.
Nice story. True generosity seems very rare in that realm. Seems like they only do charity for image or because they mistakenly feel it balances out the heinous greed & other hidden horrific deeds they perpetrate that is unfortunately much more the norm. I know Robin Williams used to insist that homeless people be hired as crew for his films. I guess H-wood really has become a squirming, slimy cesspit of cowardice, narcissism, body dysmorphia, virtue signaling hypocrisies & hive mind when it used to have more glamour & class. Or it seemed that way in between cheating scandals & closeted stars in lavender marriages. I guess really to survive either the film world or the music industry, especially at those upper echelons, you really do have to kill your own heart & sell your soul. It’s all ego, deception, cutthroat mind games, toxic drama & hubris. Sad, really. Glad to hear there are still a few occasional exceptions with some sense of genuine compassion or genuine integrity/generosity. Again…very rare.
Very true. SO many people came forward after he died that he had been quietly helping and paying bills for expecting nothing in return. No one knew how generous he was. He was an incredible artist and more importantly a great person. So sad he was taken too soon.
The first time I listened to anything by Meghan Markle was when Observe was doing a body language read of her on the Oprah interview. The thing that struck me was that she never referred to Harry by name. It was always 'my husband'. I felt like she was telling Oprah that the limelight had to be on her at all times and when it couldn't be on her directly there was this reminder that he was there as an extension of her. I knew then that she was clearly self-absorbed.
I think that in always referring to "my husband", Markle was trolling the Queen. The Queen was well known for introducing speeches with "my husband and I" and I think Markle seized on that expression to emulate and ridicule the Queen who she has always considered herself superior to. Very noticeable too that Markle hardly ever referred to the Queen as "Queen" or "Your Majesty" when talking about her, but merely as "your grandmother". That was Markle's way of disrespecting and demeaning the Queen and effectively saying she was nothing more than Harry's grandmother to her.
My ex Narc husband called me by every name possible except my own and even had “the wife” as my number in his phone. It’s called devaluation and HG has talked about it in some detail. No one is more important than the narcissist. You are but an extension of them and don’t you forget it!
My first intro to her was the interview where she tried to say she didn't really know much about him being royalty before she met and fell in love with him. Not sure if we are talking about the same interview but that was the thing that really stuck out to me. The fact that she would think anyone could believe that is beyond me. Why lie about it? It's such a trivial thing.
I was married to two narcissists of different types. My god…I can spot them a mile away now. The No Contact or the Grey Rock method saved my sanity. Knowledge is power!
I did too but I thanked myself for sticking to accomplishing my end goals- ie not to disconnect with my family who Meghan was successful in doing that to Harry. This is the main reason why we didn’t last together, since then I was weary of having another relationship- it’s frightening
Knowledge is absolutely power!! I learned this six years too late with serious mental and deadly health issues now. Colon cancer is only one of many!! This type of abuse has been proven to cause colon cancer. If I had known and understood, my sister would have been out of my and my parents' lives immediately.
Knowledge is absolutely power!! I learned this six years too late with serious mental and deadly health issues now. Colon cancer is only one of many!! This type of abuse has been proven to cause colon cancer. If I had known and understood, my sister would have been out of my and my parents' lives immediately.
@Jennifer Bailey ok I Googled the Grey Rock method and I've done that before and it does work very well. I just didn't know there was an actual term for that action... Pretty cool and very interesting 😎 so yea Knowledge is definitely power... ✌
Yes harry's wife is definitely a narcissist. And I am so happy to see two of my favorite people in the same podcast. What a great show! Thanks to you both. Your voices are obviously not the same person but both voices are very smooth and soothing. And I'm an American, proof that some of us can differentiate "British" accents.
@Galloping Goose i also never understood the draw of Diana, like what could she possibly have done to inspire Elton John/Bernie Taupin to butcher perfectly brilliant song lyrics in her honor? ¯\(°_o)/¯
RB has a working class accent that Americans can recognize. Although RB is very intelligent, he is probably a sociopathic type narcissist due to his bad, antisocial behavior that deeply hurts and traumatizes others; and that he feels no real remorse about. That is why many people don't like him.
Meghan is an excellent example of how a middle range narcissist behaves. She gets herself into all kinds of situations, which makes the analysis valuable.
Why do you say Middle range?? The more I learn about her, the more I realise that her levels of self absorption are higher than just middle range? This woman literally believes that she can hold one of the most powerful families in the world to Ransom..... She really thinks she's got them by their nose, doesn't she? You don't get to be a British royal family without connections, my darling. Meghan will get what's coming to her. Soon enough.
Yes High Range Narcs dont get caught doing bad shit🤔 MM does it where People catch her and when the mask slips she comes across as quite psychotic .......lets face it she isnt the brightest spark and she never got very far in her Acting Career because she has very little talent.......Everything she touches tanks thats why they are both in the dumpster
@@allyw1364 I would Really like to see them both end up in the dumpster, to be honest. Nothing would give me Greater Pleasure. MM has decided that if she can't be the "beloved Princess", then she'll just be the hated Joan-Collins type of character - the Villain. And she plays that part better, with her black gear on and her joker face smile. ANYTHING for Attention.
@@morticiag Bravo ....Joan Collins at least had Class,😅 yes she Realised sonn enough she couldnt control the RF like she controls Harry so she did a runner Thought she would have her Star on Hollywood Boulevard....um she has no talent full stop, Unfortunately she will try to live out her dreams through Her poor children if they exist that is
I think what slipped under the radar in the discussion of being a narcissist and having narcissistic traits, which we all have, is the difference between having a personality disorder and being a person who can be selfish or demanding at times, which is everyone still breathing.
HG has talked about this difference in one of his videos. Basically we all have self interest, but a narcissist wants control. We could take the same course of action but we do it for different reasons; e.g. we may feel a certain way or have certain principles, whereas a narcissist is upset because their target is not obeying them.
What I find utterly fascinating, is that HG's voice, opinions, intelligence & humour are highly attractive, however I find myself continuing to be attracted to those things in spite of his admitted narcissistic, psychopathic personality. How bizarre that I'm willing to ignore that to some extent & put that very real danger (emotional, I'm not suggesting physical) to one side, just to forfill some type of bizarre fantasy in my mind where by I'm totally taken in without even knowing what the man looks like, but certainly knowing what the man could be capable of. This makes me understand why a lot of people fall for narcissists. The charisma of someone can be incredibly alluring & we are willing to ignore huge red flags at what could be huge personal cost. I'm beyond intrigued though by this & guess that much of his audience feel the same way? Along with the interesting subject matter it's definitely part of the reason I keep going back to watch more. This was a great interview, thank you both! I enjoy each channel individually very much & I hope you get together more often! 🇬🇧🙂🇬🇧
You are safe with HG. He answers every question, every doubt every reason to why Narcs behave the way you do. Its the most honest in your face advice that will answer any questions you have ever had about yourself and understanding the behaviours of others. He is not an altruistic man, he gains fuel by educating us but he's honest about it. Its your empathic need of addiction to the narc ..... but thats why HG is safe. Start detoxing with HG, trust me, your life will change. Take care 👍
@@lllllloooooo Thank you for your reply. I do indeed feel safe watching him & I tune in every day when possible. Luckily I have never been involved with a narcissist nor do I want to be now (especially after learning so much from HG's channel). As someone who overthinks everything to the nth & over analyses myself & why I do the things I do far too much, I definitely get a kick out of trying to figure out why I feel what I feel, what impact different people I'll never meet have on me & I enjoy the constant Introspection even though it might sometimes be to my detriment. Human behaviour is certainly fascinating, I hope I never fully figure myself out though or life may become rather dull! :)
The thing is, HG uses his inner knowledge of narcissism to warn non-narcs about the danger of narcissists. To me, although one could argue he's glorifying in being a narcissist, he's aware of it and has enough empathy to use it to warn others. I find that touching.
@@ab-hs3ou I have to disagree that HG has the ability for any empathy at all as a narcissistic psychopath. He certainly understands empathy on an intellectual level though that's very clear & so I presume he sees the benefit in giving us all this info & sharing his knowledge, but it's obviously only for self serving perposes, which I don't have an issue with seeing as most of us have our own reasons for the professions we embark on, as the ability to gain income & enjoy our lives. If you listen to him often you'll hear HG say that his legacy is of the upmost importance to him & if he can help people along the way then great, but that's not an empathetic position or reason, but more a means to an end; his forever legacy. This is JMO of course, I know he'd articulate this & explain way better than I!
@Mel Star: not to be presumptuous but that may be a flag in and of itself. If you observe a narcissist and see what you think are bits and pieces of empathy you've already missed the boat. I have met so many narcissist who seem incredibly kind and sweet and would give you the shirt off their back and they're doing it for one reason and one reason only, to get attention and to secure supply. I've also heard therapist say that the narcissist will actually do altruistic things not for the people that they're doing it for but actually just to feel better about themselves. After realizing that I have been attracted to narcissists for decades it finally occurred to me that playing off my own insecurity I would be attracted to men who as I put it "looked really good on paper" meaning highly accomplished men. But it finally occurred to me that these are the men, in my opinion, to avoid or at least observe carefully because generally speaking it takes great confidence (or for the narc, a really big ego) to become a doctor, a lawyer, a military or commercial pilot, the CEO of a company, a high powered investor, etc. You will find narcissists in big supply in these types of professions particularly in the political arena. I actually find HGT repugnant and particularly offensive with his misogyny. I remember when he was doing the full reading and commentary of Revenge by Tom Bower, at some point, I just had to quit listening because the personal vitriol that he was spewing towards Meghan Markle, I found to be very distasteful. Even though I'm not a Markle fan I found his personal commentary to often devolve into really crass comments. Andrew even highlights in this interview HGT's obvious disdain which is palpable and obvious. That said I do find his commentary on narcissism fascinating but you sure wouldn't want to date this guy!
@@Madders23 If you follow HG’s logic, if you are asking if you’re a narcissist, then you’re not. Narcissists don’t ask the question. Those that know they are narcissists don’t need to ask, and it never occurs to those who are unaware. Now, some middle range narcissists may act like they ask themselves that, but they always come with the same answer: no. Then they point out their various qualities that prove they aren’t narcissists. People who aren’t narcissists tend to ask themselves over and over, never coming up with an answer.
Whether he is or isn't, it is still good to be aware of and manage narcissistic traits. If that idea seems adverse well... you might just be a narcissist. If someone is one of the few with a bit of self awareness and willing to seek assistance there is hope.
@@gottfriedosterbach3907 You might want to listen to more from HG Tudor. Narcissists cannot change. Everyone has narcissistic traits. Those who aren’t narcissists can “manage” their traits, but not all narcissistic traits are bad in a situation. For example, being completely selfless all the time could easily make a person homeless if they give all of your money and possessions away. That is not good.
Her actions speak for themselves and if the total sum of them does not qualify her as a full blown narcissist, the term is completely meaningless and we may as well drop the term permanently. HG Tudor was of course one of the first to see straight through her.
I think William saw it as did thw Queen. Harry saw their warnings as a ‘see? You just can’t be happy for me! You’re being terrible to me”. He was totally snowed by markle.
@@ecampbell5837 Yes, he was indeed markled. The fact that she has a verb named after her already says a lot. And with regard to the two brothers, William clearly inherited the brains in the family, while the Spare one has not exactly helped his own intellectual development by his admitted use (probably misuse) of various recreational drugs. For example, marijuana is well documented for arresting the intellectual development of habitual users and new findings suggest that it may cause accelerated thinning of the prefrontal parts of the cortex in the brain, among other nasty negative effects. So the already not very bright Ginger Prince is definitely not getting any wiser by his drug habits, and things are not looking very good for him.
@@SR71YF12 Everything in your second paragraph about marijuana is a complete lie. There are plenty of real downsides of marijuana use without making things up. Such a shame, as your first paragraph was spot on.
Yes, and people like me who've been the victim of the abusive CONTROLLING narcissist see through her. I got rid of the evil NPD in my life and went zero contact. H will never do that, although I think he sees more than he'll ever tell. He just can't shake the trauma bond nor grow the set required to leave. He'd be so much better off but he can't break his addiction to the good moments. She has him doing all of her badmouthing and dirty works and he just wants to keep the vile volcano from erupting.
Harry’s wife is lucky that she didn’t get beaten half to death when she showed up with her camera crews in Uvalde, Texas prancing around with her fancy, Martha Stewart style picnic baskets & bottled water. We don’t play in the South, & they really don’t play in Texas. As horrible as she is, I was blown away that she did that. Who thinks, “Yeah. Lots of children were murdered. Let’s take them fruit & sandwiches & take my picture at the scene. Is this outfit mourner chíc”?
Harry is completely oblivious to how utterly ridiculous he sounds when he snivels because William's brekkie had THREE sausages, while he, Prince Hairplugs, received only TWO. Ye gods! Where were you, CPS, when the Royal Family's version of OLIVER TWIST was being STARVED?
HG Tudor is an excellent source for narc behavior. His channel does cover many narc persons and behaviors, although it seems easier to digest in the MM format, imho. I do appreciate your interviews, Andrew!💜
Andrew you are such a nice guy. I’m astounded how well you and hg Tudor get on. One of your videos made me go check him out again because at an earlier time I was still angry and hateful and I found him intolerable. You don’t cow down to him (is that how that is spelled), you’re not afraid to bring up astute points that may trigger him. But of course you approach it very intelligently and kindly. And he even seems to like you. Hg Tudor does make me laugh out loud at times and I feel dirtier for it. Haha. Anyway enjoy your interviews with him. And Tudor has taught me a lot. An ex who is a narcissist and now a daughter. I do wish people who cover narcissism would talk about children who are narcissists. I have two children and taught for 20 years. Yes, I know childhood goes hand in hand with being narcissistic. But looking back with my daughter there were differences and now it’s so obvious. Nobody will talk about this - pre Narccissistic personality disorder in children. It would help parents who just don’t see it for what it is.
That's a good point!! If you see video clips of Harry's wife as a child, she was definitely a red flag even then. That fishing trip was weird, where she was kind of repeating a mantra about going fishing, rather than actually being genuinely happy. It's like she knew that that would "warm daddy's heart" so that's what she did. Also, many young girls have fantasies about "being a princess", but none will pursue it as Literally as what Harry's wife has! She is Ruthless in going after what she wants. Also, that teenaged crazy eyed look when she said "Daddy, I got an English award!" Too weird. I believe that Dorias own Narcissistic and neglectful parenting style, together with Thomas's over indulging one, has served to foster that Narcissism in her.
Please tell me a few differences you noticed. I suspect that in one of my children, but I've been told it's oppositional defiance. She just doesn't hit all the marks for oppositional defiance disorder, so I'm not sold. No one really is looking at narcissism in kids. I guess because they don't diagnose things Iike that until adulthood but they need to rethink that. I want to be prepared for what may come when my child becomes an adult.
It is INCREDIBLE how well H G understands everyone else and how he instantly can accurately analyse other people's perspective and reaction. Constantly impressed by the depth of insight he has. And in a live chat this ability is phenomenal. And with that touch of dry wit that makes listening to him so enjoyable ....
@Sparkle de Jager: Narcissists live to analyze people. That is what makes them such master manipulators. They generally are excellent listeners,too. But it's only done in order to allow them to expertly manipulate you later.
Some of the loudest feminists in the 60s and 70s were middle class women who did not work and were married to rich husbands . The rest of us were too busy working (from age 15 in my case) and appreciating the freedom of choice that we had 🤣
Yes but working women benefited from the feminists' work. Back in the day, my mom put a down payment on a home and was working full-time, but it had to go only in my Dad's name. She couldn't even have a credit card in her name. That's just a few of the things that changed over the years. I say hurray to those strident/wealthy women who worked hard to change things for all of us. There is still work to do.
@@shadesofgray5476 You’re both correct. When I was born, women couldn’t get a credit card or bank account without their husband’s or father’s permission. Feminists are busy now fighting for men who believe they’re women to take opportunities, college scholarships, & jobs away from girls & women; they’re literally trying to undo Title IX, which is one of their very few good accomplishments. They’ve done nothing for decades except pimp for Planned Parenthood & Big Pharma Fertility. Until #MeToo, the only times they care about women being sexually harassed or raped has been when a conservative is about to be appointed to the Supreme Court & put Roe v Wade in danger & then suddenly every candidate is a rapist. I’m thankful for my right to vote, have my own bank account, etc ., but I also wish we had things that feminists helped to get rid of like families being about to afford life on one salary at least for the first several years of kids lives, I wish boys & men would treat us with respect & open the door, etc., & more than anything I wish they hadn’t pushed casual sex to the point where children have to have multiple sexual partners if they want to have friends in school. Feminists are wrong about the basic fact that men & women are not the same. We are different, but are both of the highest value; any society that’s missing one gender turns into a hell on earth. Feminists, for all their “girl power”, are the biggest women-hating misogynists because they decided that women aren’t good enough the way we are & that we have to act like men & not even like good men the sleaziest, greediest, most selfish version of men. Watch “A Wolf in Sheep’s Clothing: The Gender Agenda” on EWTN
@@shadesofgray5476 interestingly though my brother was only 20 when he got married in 1959 so the house they bought went in my sister in law’s name as she was 21.
Both you and GH are the business, Andrew. You both put out such educational and entertaining videos. Endlessly interesting and so well presented. I've learned a lot about narcissism and cult from you.
I am not afraid of HG anymore. He is helping me understand a 20 plus year marriage/relationship. It helps sort my empathetic traits.❤. I will absolutely be on the doorstep with tea and sympathy.🥰💯👍🏽
Be on the doorstep with tea and sympathy for who? A TH-cam personality who may or may not be a real voice that is a self admitted narcissist? Please don't. You need to keep learning if that's the case!
I was brought up by my grandmothers and great grandmothers, born around 1880-1915, and we were poor. There were very few hugs, but they were warm like wooden stoves, glowing with material care, like food, clothes, wood, a roof over my head, and even books, a luxury. etc. a hundred plus years ago, one didn't talk about feelings. I'm not sure this massive overdose of introspection is a good thing. HG Tudor is normally not my cup of tea, but this time his voice is much more relaxed, and I can take in his knowledge. You gave me an idea, though, Andrew, if I create a channel, I will talk to myself, having one good and one bad personality. It's easy to create voices now, with ChatGPT.
I do find it refreshing to hear HG admit to his inability to empathise. You can forgive a person's limitations and exploitations when the person has insight into both.
you should listen to his video on 'scrap heap' there is no way to forgive the behaviour of a narc, they need accountability and he is wrong, love does not require empathy - decency and abiding by the law doesn't require it either. Andrew is doing these vids for traffic, every time he advertises Harry is a narc he actually goes against what HG describes as a narc etc
Anybody who cannot empathize, I want nothing to do with them, including this guy! With no empathy, you’re of course being 100% negative regarding Meghan. With no empathy, how can you possibly even understand how Meghan feels or acts the way she does!
If Megan is a narcissist, and you’re a narcissist, and you say there’s no substance to her, etc., then you have all of those traits yourself! Joy oh joy, bet you’re a blast to be with! 🙄 Oh right, you’re all alone! But Meghan isn’t 😁😅
H.G. Tudor has given me insight with regards to a family member who I could not understand as the person did mean and cruel things to those in their power. Thanks.
Sounds like you're dealing with narcissistic abuse. There's a psychologist who helps with understanding this on YT. Check out Dr. Ramani if you're interested. Best of luck!
@@whendays659 I learned how to deal with her as a young child. I just ignored her negative comments but still thought it was weird that she would pit all my siblings against each other. I figured it was because she was an only child and didn’t know how to parent. After a short time my mother left me alone on her control trip. I was 6 or 7 when she told me I was nothing and I thought God and my teachers thought I was great so I never worried about what she thought of me.
Great interview!! I’ve watched a lot of youtube channels on narcissism over the past couple of years and nobody explains it better than HG Tudor. Much as I can’t stand her, it was actually my interest in Harry’s wife and her narcissism that led me to discover the narcissists in my own life, so I should be thanking her really…🤷🏻♀️😁🙏🏼
I never, ever listened to Harry's wife's podcasts nor will I ever but I did watch HG Tudor's video coverage of same which was wholly entertaining and informative.
I’d be so intimidated to speak to a known narcissist, but HG has learned normal behavior so well that you often forget he is one. It’s a form of consideration, even if it is for him own benefit. If people have to fake consideration, it still makes the world a better place. But I guess that’s to much to ask of some.
I love your episodes with H.G. Tudor. It's fascinating. I grew up with (what he would term) a mid-range narcissist, and I've been subjected first-hand how awful they are. I respect the information H.G. gives, but I'm very glad I will never have to know him in real life! But, this is why I personally watch videos from people about Meghan. I could tell she was off from the get-go, and the more I saw, the more she reminded me of the narcissist I grew up with. So, yes, I'm sure she's a narcissist. Absolutely 100%.
Love HGT!!! Andrew & he are a perfect duo. Literally LOL'd a few times. As always, great show. With much love from the beautiful Arkansas River Valley 💞
M&H never liked Frogmore, didn't want to live there as it wasn't grand enough, but now with termination of lease, they love their home, so safe and full of memories that we'd like an extension to gather our cherished memories.
When i watch and listen to Meghan, I always have the sense that she is performing. She just doesn't come across as genuine. Thank you Andrew for this, I always enjoy HG Tudor
I had a chance at fame. Literally worked with Oscar winners and such. I didn’t want it. It’s horrible everyone following what you do. It’s just horrible. (Oprah included ha!). It’s a horrible world where most people are so obsessed with being famous opposed to being good at their jobs. It’s sole sucking and at some point you’re going to have to sell out. And the self obsession is just painful. I have enough stories to last a lifetime and live a great life now .
Imagine being famous and never really knowing who your true friends are? Or if you have any?. Being famous has always seemed like a false reality to me.
@@66kaisersoza I grew up in an entertainment town. I saw good bad and ugly. The ugly generally new talent that have done nothing yet but get a record deal. I worked with Jonny cash at the end of his career. Never met a more humble man. There are good people involved but I literally knew gangsters. Yes that happens. I don’t want a part of crazy but now I serve coffee for a living and I think most people are crazy.
@@maryjohnson6796 I believe Meghan is searching for more than just fame, money and recognition. If that was the case, she would've just stayed with the royal family and agreed to follow their rules and cut ribbons and smile. I believe she wants Power. That's what she wanted from day one. I believe she actively pursued Harry with the intention of sucking him dry - using his family connections to her full advantage. I believe her to be cold and calculating. She is definitely a Villain that can be counted with the worst of the gan gsters
You are observing and analyzing pop culture. Narcissism exists and right now it's having a moment. You both provide information and entertainment whether I agree or not.
These discussions/interviews with HG Tudor, are top quality. You are both honest and knowledgeable people with talent. The vlogs are absorbing and interesting. Thank you Tudor and Gold.
Apparently when John Lennon was younger he wasn't a particularly nice person. He have up his Brit UK citizenship & returned his CBE awarded by the Queen. He was described as an angry young narc/sociopath man. When he hooked up with Yoko Ono he went thru' rough patches & anorexia, habitual drugged up. John (like Marvin Gaye exile in Belgium/Bob Marley exiled in Brit UK) exiled in New York, took 5yrs out of public, stopped protesting, stopped touring, stopped promotions, went cold turkey off drugs, stopped nterviews, became a house husband, a stay @ home father, became peaceful, semi retired, private travelling. He became a renaissance man. Then he wrote new music, released new stuff, got healthy, free from his demons/past, ready 2 go public ...... We know how it all ended, tragically when he was @ his most peaceful state of mind. He left behind a legacy of good works & is a legend. So would be interesting if HG Tudor could analyse John Lennon cadre. Was he a narc or empath or borderline? Did he really change be cos his emotional thinking got a respite from the daily grinding "celebrity" treadmill? Can a leopard change their spots. Mind you HG Tudor did state a Narc never changes AND there's no such thing as a part time Narc
Was going to say his legendary asswholeness especially towards his older son is notorious. I went to the same college as yoko. The urban legends about her were hilarious.
@@gleefulme9617 HG Tudor doesn't know most of the "celebs" he's analysised. Does HG Tudor know Will Smith? Jada pinket Smith? Boris Johnson? Ben Affleck? James cordon etc etc etc - no he doesn't !
When megain went to a homeless shelter for pregnant women ,she wore thousands of pounds worth of clothes and jewelry and a 6ooo pound chanel bag how disgusting is that she just dosent care and there were paps outside of course......
Meghan markle has issues that’s for certain. Harry was a grand prize for her but she will certainly dump him like her past exes, friends and family members when she has gained all she can from him and he no longer serves her. Unfortunately for Harry he will lose everything in that process, family, friends, integrity, reputation and status. She will only have gained. He wasn’t bright enough to see it coming. I think many variables contributed to the perfect storm and harry was her perfect victim. He was a sitting duck. He really could not have chosen worse if he had set out to.
Excellent video. Very informative and entertaining. HG is brilliant. I didn't understand narcissism until I listened to HG analyses. He explains narcissism in a fascinating and entertaining way.
I was gratified to hear HGT identify Charles as a narcissist because I have suspected it for years. We can see how disastrous then it was for the extremely emotionally needy empath, Diana, to couple then with the exact opposite of what she was hoping for: a loving, caring man who would really be there for her emotionally. Instead she got man child who really didn't care about her at all and really just used her as a tool in the moving forward of what was expected of him. It must have just been incredibly devastating for her. For anyone who's ever had a relationship with a narcissist in a close intimate way it's absolutely devastating. So it's certainly gives insight to how difficult those initial years must have been for her....well for all the time she was with Charles!
Diana wasn’t perfect either. Simply labelling Charles a narcissist doesn’t excuse Diana’s behaviour’s towards him and other members of the Royal family. She was happy with the status Charles gave her as the Princess of Wales. She had numerous affairs. Yet Charles still gave her a very generous divorce settlement. Plus the fact he continued to pay for her security. That stopped shortly before the Martin Bashir interview. Diana’s paranoia caused her to dismiss palace security.
Love the idea that some people think you and HG are one and the same. There was a brief moment after that discussion where you did actually sound the same. My mind exploded into a multiverse at that moment.
My aunt, as a young woman in 1960’s London, worked at one of the big brand hairdressers. One time, she cut the young Prince Charles’ hair. She said that he was basically a little entitled sh1t and she refused to deal with him a second time.
💯. Just ignore them. Who is she? They say she was an actress. Never heard of her like Julia Roberts or Jennifer Garner until she married this prince and now she's all over? Whatever happened to their "privacy"? I'm astounded.
I learned so much of how traumatic being in a relationship with the narcissist. I healed far more in 5 months listening to HG Tudor than 5 months of traditional therapy.
Andrew & HG Tudor are good together. Very humorous debate going on. Laughed every time Andrew cracked a joke, and HG Tudor took time to react. It seemed like he was thinking, 'Hey, was that a joke ? Um, time to laugh'. Brilliant 👏
Thanks Andrew, brilliant as usual. I have heard you ask your audience several times ‘whether your edgehogs, or the person you are interviewing, think your a narcissist’. No, you are so far removed from one that never the Twain shall meet. You are a brilliant interviewer because of your empathy, really😀.
It was her 'love-bombing of Harry' that made him her advocate - that's what narcs do. William and the Queen erred in caution, but Harry didn't take it onboard. Remember, he had 2 long standing girlfriends who decided against 'royal life' so was desperate to find someone who wanted it. Meghan has always wanted it, being obsessed with Princess Diana, she moved on Harry (even wearing the same perfume as his Mum). It was a pure opportunistic manipulation of Harry by someone who saw herself as the new Princess Diana. That's why she's so jealous of Kate, occupying the role she believes is hers.
@@MarkmanOTW Remember when William advised H to take his time with Meg . His brother said he was being racist with that remark so I guess the race card was constantly played to clear all obstacles !
@@ninjacat4929 Yes, I do remember that. Funnily enough, when I first learnt of MM and watched their 'engagement interview' in 2017, I saw so many red flags and concluded she was a narcissist. I was able to do this as I had been learning about and studying intently 'narcissism' that year as part of my recovery, having excited a relationship with a narcissist (very confused about what had happened) only the previous year. I predicted troublesome times ahead before 'the tide turned', while many were still taken in. Subsequent appearances and events only reinforced this even up to their wedding.
Naturally being a narcissist, Tudor knows the exact behavior and nature of a narcissist. I like the use of the term "prime aims". What is baffling is how Tudor is self-aware. I wouldn't know the stats on how many narcs, diagnosed or not, truly believe or understand their disorder. I only know of one other, Sam Vaknin , who has written books and given lectures on the topic, which again is baffling because clearly both Tudor and Vaknin do so for opportunistic and ego driven reasons, rather than to be helpful and informative one would think. It's such a mind f**k dealing with those who have a Cluster B personality disorder and as someone who was married to one for 22 years (he had myriad co-morbid mental illnesses) it can cause all manner of damage...physical and emotional.
Andrew and HG Tudor made my morning! I wish you collaborated more and more. Thank you! ☀ PS. You are not a narcissist for sure. And I'm glad I came across your channel. I enjoy your videos so much 🌹
Narcissist, sociopath psychopath, and other words which are truly psychological diagnosis are so over used now! Selfish or attention seeking, or good old self absorbed are not necessarily synonymous with one who is truly a psychopath or sociopath! And Andrew I'm not picking apart this video! I think you're brilliant! I'm speaking in generalities with so many true crime creator's calling the Villan in every case a narcissist!
You two have very interesting, fascinating discussions! Made possible because of mutual respect. If you have that, you can discuss anything. A delight to listen to!
What do you think? Is she a narcissist? Are we barking up the wrong tree? Let me know below!
Throughout history there has always been a bad seed in the royal family. They need to take the attention off of the "good" boy and put all the attention on the "bad" boy. I think people should leave them alone. If she is really a narcissist, it will make her nuts. Stop putting her face in the media and no one will care.
Megsie is a malignant narcissist.
Yes she is, 100%.
She’s definitely a bonafide narcissist
She's your standard greedy, envious climber who uses people until they're no longer a useful stepping stone to where she wants to be. Is that narcissistic? Evil? Downright psychotic? I vote all of the above. She worships money & desires subjects that cater to her ego. What a pathetic way to waste the 1 life we are each given.
HG Tudor has Harry's wife completely nailed. He knows exactly what she is. And thanks to him, many of us now understand why.
Fascinated that Markle never seems to reflect on her bad behavior. She makes the same mistakes repeatedly, but never changes so she must not regret any of her behavior. I guess that explains the emptiness in her soul & her narcissism.
She has a life narrative she lives out. Her thinking is fixed and it gives her pleasure.
My dad was like that. He was a narcissist. He was also bipolar which was a double whammy.
The woman has No Shame.
She is a poster child for Psychopathy.
The definition of insanity.
Narcissists never identify or own their narcissistic behaviors. They'll deny it forever. Not all but most. HG has educated us on this.
I think a really great comparison to make is between Meghan Markle and the late singer/songwriter George Michael. George absolutely hated celebrities who used charity to bolster their celebrity status. He even wrote a song where he says "charity is a coat you wear twice a year". We all knew that George supported charities. When the late Princess Diana asked George to headline a concert called the Concert of Hope for her AIDS charity George said yes immediately. He also was one of the artist who performed at the Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert. It is consider one of his best performances of all time. Unlike all the other artist it was important to George that he actually pay tribute to his friend and an icon of his since his childhood. He practiced with the remaining band members of Queen for a full week ahead of the concert where others artist showed up the day before and practiced with the band one time. When George passed all of the charities and individuals he helped started coming out of the woodwork to tell their story. His generosity was truly staggering. From donating all the proceeds of many of his top hits to charity to giving a waitress a $5,000 tip when he overheard her complain about student debt. He did all of these things on the condition that it would be done anonymously. George felt it should not be about him but about the people he was trying to help. For Meghan, it is the absolute opposite. She would do nothing for charity if she wasn't being credited for doing so or actually being paid for doing so. As H. G. said, she has no self-awareness of how bad this makes her look. She will throw out that she is going to do something charitable and the immediate attention she gets just by making the announcement is often enough for her. She needn't put herself out further. I made this comparison on my own and then one day heard H.G make the comparison himself. I was blown away and so happy that someone was able to make this comparison of a truly charitable kind-hearted person to one who is most definitely not.
Spot on!
Nice story. True generosity seems very rare in that realm. Seems like they only do charity for image or because they mistakenly feel it balances out the heinous greed & other hidden horrific deeds they perpetrate that is unfortunately much more the norm. I know Robin Williams used to insist that homeless people be hired as crew for his films. I guess H-wood really has become a squirming, slimy cesspit of cowardice, narcissism, body dysmorphia, virtue signaling hypocrisies & hive mind when it used to have more glamour & class. Or it seemed that way in between cheating scandals & closeted stars in lavender marriages. I guess really to survive either the film world or the music industry, especially at those upper echelons, you really do have to kill your own heart & sell your soul. It’s all ego, deception, cutthroat mind games, toxic drama & hubris. Sad, really. Glad to hear there are still a few occasional exceptions with some sense of genuine compassion or genuine integrity/generosity. Again…very rare.
George wasn’t appreciated enough , I didn’t know the extent of his generosity, thank you for sharing x
Very true. SO many people came forward after he died that he had been quietly helping and paying bills for expecting nothing in return. No one knew how generous he was. He was an incredible artist and more importantly a great person. So sad he was taken too soon.
@Teensy Mom ... thank you for sharing just how much of a really good guy George Michael was.
The first time I listened to anything by Meghan Markle was when Observe was doing a body language read of her on the Oprah interview. The thing that struck me was that she never referred to Harry by name. It was always 'my husband'. I felt like she was telling Oprah that the limelight had to be on her at all times and when it couldn't be on her directly there was this reminder that he was there as an extension of her. I knew then that she was clearly self-absorbed.
I think that in always referring to "my husband", Markle was trolling the Queen. The Queen was well known for introducing speeches with "my husband and I" and I think Markle seized on that expression to emulate and ridicule the Queen who she has always considered herself superior to. Very noticeable too that Markle hardly ever referred to the Queen as "Queen" or "Your Majesty" when talking about her, but merely as "your grandmother". That was Markle's way of disrespecting and demeaning the Queen and effectively saying she was nothing more than Harry's grandmother to her.
My ex Narc husband called me by every name possible except my own and even had “the wife” as my number in his phone. It’s called devaluation and HG has talked about it in some detail. No one is more important than the narcissist. You are but an extension of them and don’t you forget it!
Wow, excellent spotting 👏🏻👍🏻
And nowadays it's H 😅
My first intro to her was the interview where she tried to say she didn't really know much about him being royalty before she met and fell in love with him. Not sure if we are talking about the same interview but that was the thing that really stuck out to me. The fact that she would think anyone could believe that is beyond me. Why lie about it? It's such a trivial thing.
I was married to two narcissists of different types. My god…I can spot them a mile away now. The No Contact or the Grey Rock method saved my sanity. Knowledge is power!
@Jennifer Bailey Grey Rock?
Forgive my ignorance.
I did too but I thanked myself for sticking to accomplishing my end goals- ie not to disconnect with my family who Meghan was successful in doing that to Harry. This is the main reason why we didn’t last together, since then I was weary of having another relationship- it’s frightening
Knowledge is absolutely power!! I learned this six years too late with serious mental and deadly health issues now. Colon cancer is only one of many!! This type of abuse has been proven to cause colon cancer. If I had known and understood, my sister would have been out of my and my parents' lives immediately.
Knowledge is absolutely power!! I learned this six years too late with serious mental and deadly health issues now. Colon cancer is only one of many!! This type of abuse has been proven to cause colon cancer. If I had known and understood, my sister would have been out of my and my parents' lives immediately.
@Jennifer Bailey ok I Googled the Grey Rock method and I've done that before and it does work very well. I just didn't know there was an actual term for that action... Pretty cool and very interesting 😎 so yea Knowledge is definitely power...
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Yes harry's wife is definitely a narcissist.
And I am so happy to see two of my favorite people in the same podcast. What a great show! Thanks to you both.
Your voices are obviously not the same person but both voices are very smooth and soothing. And I'm an American, proof that some of us can differentiate "British" accents.
I agree (although not american)
@Galloping Goose
i also never understood the draw of Diana,
like what could she possibly have done to inspire Elton John/Bernie Taupin to butcher perfectly brilliant song lyrics
in her honor?
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@@mindsigh4 People are often more than their worst qualities. Just fyi
@@mindsigh4 She died. That's what.
RB has a working class accent that Americans can recognize. Although RB is very intelligent, he is probably a sociopathic type narcissist due to his bad, antisocial behavior that deeply hurts and traumatizes others; and that he feels no real remorse about. That is why many people don't like him.
Meghan is an excellent example of how a middle range narcissist behaves. She gets herself into all kinds of situations, which makes the analysis valuable.
Why do you say Middle range?? The more I learn about her, the more I realise that her levels of self absorption are higher than just middle range?
This woman literally believes that she can hold one of the most powerful families in the world to Ransom..... She really thinks she's got them by their nose, doesn't she? You don't get to be a British royal family without connections, my darling.
Meghan will get what's coming to her. Soon enough.
Yes High Range Narcs dont get caught doing bad shit🤔
MM does it where People catch her and when the mask slips she comes across as quite psychotic .......lets face it she isnt the brightest spark and she never got very far in her Acting Career because she has very little talent.......Everything she touches tanks thats why they are both in the dumpster
She’s a raging grandiose narcissist there’s not a mid range narcissist.
@@allyw1364 I would Really like to see them both end up in the dumpster, to be honest. Nothing would give me Greater Pleasure. MM has decided that if she can't be the "beloved Princess", then she'll just be the hated Joan-Collins type of character - the Villain. And she plays that part better, with her black gear on and her joker face smile. ANYTHING for Attention.
@@morticiag Bravo ....Joan Collins at least had Class,😅 yes she Realised sonn enough she couldnt control the RF like she controls Harry so she did a runner
Thought she would have her Star on Hollywood Boulevard....um she has no talent full stop, Unfortunately she will try to live out her dreams through
Her poor children if they exist that is
I'm looking forward to this. HG Tudor is top notch at forensically analyzing narcissism.
He agrees fully on that
It’s a con trick, for clicks.
@@Woodman-Spare-that-tree what's the con then?
@@ryanpape9815 🤦♀️
@@KitKatSukiKat I'm not a mind reader... So the imoji doesn't answer the question!
That's 💯 exactly what I've been saying all along.
Markle is writing, directing, producing and acting out her dream soap opera! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
... that defunct soap opera sunset beach !!! You'll have 2 Google it if you've no idea what it is !
Absolutely. Her cat got the canary smug grin in the wedding carriage spelled that out. Role of a lifetime her. She’s a complete phoney.
@@ecampbell5837 She had the same grin the other day on her pap walk in Beverly Hills after the kids titles were published.
What a treat ! My 2 favourite TH-camrs together again, I love the energy between HG and yourself, Andrew.
Glad you enjoyed it
U like Andrew’s fok face?
They are my most favorite TH-camr, absolutely! Although they are so totally opposite.
Narcissist and Empathetic type person makes for good television.
We thank you H.G. for all you do and what you have brought to light!
HG Tudor is a genius, I have learnt so much from his work over the years! Forever in his debt
HGT truly does a commendable job of educating/encouraging his viewers to be empiricists.
He is also a true narcissist.
I think what slipped under the radar in the discussion of being a narcissist and having narcissistic traits, which we all have, is the difference between having a personality disorder and being a person who can be selfish or demanding at times, which is everyone still breathing.
EXACTLY! I would LOVE a more detailed do-over!
HG has talked about this difference in one of his videos. Basically we all have self interest, but a narcissist wants control. We could take the same course of action but we do it for different reasons; e.g. we may feel a certain way or have certain principles, whereas a narcissist is upset because their target is not obeying them.
What I find utterly fascinating, is that HG's voice, opinions, intelligence & humour are highly attractive, however I find myself continuing to be attracted to those things in spite of his admitted narcissistic, psychopathic personality. How bizarre that I'm willing to ignore that to some extent & put that very real danger (emotional, I'm not suggesting physical) to one side, just to forfill some type of bizarre fantasy in my mind where by I'm totally taken in without even knowing what the man looks like, but certainly knowing what the man could be capable of. This makes me understand why a lot of people fall for narcissists. The charisma of someone can be incredibly alluring & we are willing to ignore huge red flags at what could be huge personal cost. I'm beyond intrigued though by this & guess that much of his audience feel the same way? Along with the interesting subject matter it's definitely part of the reason I keep going back to watch more.
This was a great interview, thank you both! I enjoy each channel individually very much & I hope you get together more often!
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You are safe with HG. He answers every question, every doubt every reason to why Narcs behave the way you do. Its the most honest in your face advice that will answer any questions you have ever had about yourself and understanding the behaviours of others.
He is not an altruistic man, he gains fuel by educating us but he's honest about it. Its your empathic need of addiction to the narc ..... but thats why HG is safe. Start detoxing with HG, trust me, your life will change.
Take care 👍
@@lllllloooooo Thank you for your reply. I do indeed feel safe watching him & I tune in every day when possible. Luckily I have never been involved with a narcissist nor do I want to be now (especially after learning so much from HG's channel). As someone who overthinks everything to the nth & over analyses myself & why I do the things I do far too much, I definitely get a kick out of trying to figure out why I feel what I feel, what impact different people I'll never meet have on me & I enjoy the constant Introspection even though it might sometimes be to my detriment. Human behaviour is certainly fascinating, I hope I never fully figure myself out though or life may become rather dull! :)
The thing is, HG uses his inner knowledge of narcissism to warn non-narcs about the danger of narcissists. To me, although one could argue he's glorifying in being a narcissist, he's aware of it and has enough empathy to use it to warn others. I find that touching.
@@ab-hs3ou I have to disagree that HG has the ability for any empathy at all as a narcissistic psychopath. He certainly understands empathy on an intellectual level though that's very clear & so I presume he sees the benefit in giving us all this info & sharing his knowledge, but it's obviously only for self serving perposes, which I don't have an issue with seeing as most of us have our own reasons for the professions we embark on, as the ability to gain income & enjoy our lives. If you listen to him often you'll hear HG say that his legacy is of the upmost importance to him & if he can help people along the way then great, but that's not an empathetic position or reason, but more a means to an end; his forever legacy. This is JMO of course, I know he'd articulate this & explain way better than I!
@Mel Star: not to be presumptuous but that may be a flag in and of itself. If you observe a narcissist and see what you think are bits and pieces of empathy you've already missed the boat. I have met so many narcissist who seem incredibly kind and sweet and would give you the shirt off their back and they're doing it for one reason and one reason only, to get attention and to secure supply. I've also heard therapist say that the narcissist will actually do altruistic things not for the people that they're doing it for but actually just to feel better about themselves. After realizing that I have been attracted to narcissists for decades it finally occurred to me that playing off my own insecurity I would be attracted to men who as I put it "looked really good on paper" meaning highly accomplished men. But it finally occurred to me that these are the men, in my opinion, to avoid or at least observe carefully because generally speaking it takes great confidence (or for the narc, a really big ego) to become a doctor, a lawyer, a military or commercial pilot, the CEO of a company, a high powered investor, etc. You will find narcissists in big supply in these types of professions particularly in the political arena. I actually find HGT repugnant and particularly offensive with his misogyny. I remember when he was doing the full reading and commentary of Revenge by Tom Bower, at some point, I just had to quit listening because the personal vitriol that he was spewing towards Meghan Markle, I found to be very distasteful. Even though I'm not a Markle fan I found his personal commentary to often devolve into really crass comments. Andrew even highlights in this interview HGT's obvious disdain which is palpable and obvious. That said I do find his commentary on narcissism fascinating but you sure wouldn't want to date this guy!
Trust Tudor. Been watching him for years. Love you two got together.
There is no way you are narcissist Andrew. You’re too humble and lovely.
HG would know instantly if Andrew is a narcissist. If you listen closely, HG says Andrew isn’t a narcissist.
@@katw5590 yeah I know, I was just saying to Andrew as he sometimes wonders
@@Madders23 If you follow HG’s logic, if you are asking if you’re a narcissist, then you’re not. Narcissists don’t ask the question. Those that know they are narcissists don’t need to ask, and it never occurs to those who are unaware. Now, some middle range narcissists may act like they ask themselves that, but they always come with the same answer: no. Then they point out their various qualities that prove they aren’t narcissists. People who aren’t narcissists tend to ask themselves over and over, never coming up with an answer.
Whether he is or isn't, it is still good to be aware of and manage narcissistic traits. If that idea seems adverse well... you might just be a narcissist. If someone is one of the few with a bit of self awareness and willing to seek assistance there is hope.
@@gottfriedosterbach3907 You might want to listen to more from HG Tudor. Narcissists cannot change. Everyone has narcissistic traits. Those who aren’t narcissists can “manage” their traits, but not all narcissistic traits are bad in a situation. For example, being completely selfless all the time could easily make a person homeless if they give all of your money and possessions away. That is not good.
Her actions speak for themselves and if the total sum of them does not qualify her as a full blown narcissist, the term is completely meaningless and we may as well drop the term permanently. HG Tudor was of course one of the first to see straight through her.
I think William saw it as did thw Queen. Harry saw their warnings as a ‘see? You just can’t be happy for me! You’re being terrible to me”. He was totally snowed by markle.
@@ecampbell5837 Yes, he was indeed markled. The fact that she has a verb named after her already says a lot. And with regard to the two brothers, William clearly inherited the brains in the family, while the Spare one has not exactly helped his own intellectual development by his admitted use (probably misuse) of various recreational drugs.
For example, marijuana is well documented for arresting the intellectual development of habitual users and new findings suggest that it may cause accelerated thinning of the prefrontal parts of the cortex in the brain, among other nasty negative effects. So the already not very bright Ginger Prince is definitely not getting any wiser by his drug habits, and things are not looking very good for him.
@@SR71YF12 Everything in your second paragraph about marijuana is a complete lie. There are plenty of real downsides of marijuana use without making things up.
Such a shame, as your first paragraph was spot on.
Yes, and people like me who've been the victim of the abusive CONTROLLING narcissist see through her. I got rid of the evil NPD in my life and went zero contact. H will never do that, although I think he sees more than he'll ever tell. He just can't shake the trauma bond nor grow the set required to leave. He'd be so much better off but he can't break his addiction to the good moments. She has him doing all of her badmouthing and dirty works and he just wants to keep the vile volcano from erupting.
Excellent taste in aircraft!
Harry’s wife is lucky that she didn’t get beaten half to death when she showed up with her camera crews in Uvalde, Texas prancing around with her fancy, Martha Stewart style picnic baskets & bottled water. We don’t play in the South, & they really don’t play in Texas. As horrible as she is, I was blown away that she did that. Who thinks, “Yeah. Lots of children were murdered. Let’s take them fruit & sandwiches & take my picture at the scene. Is this outfit mourner chíc”?
Harry is completely oblivious to how utterly ridiculous he sounds when he snivels because William's brekkie had THREE sausages, while he, Prince Hairplugs, received only TWO.
Ye gods! Where were you, CPS, when the Royal Family's version of OLIVER TWIST was being
STARVED?
HG Tudor is an excellent source for narc behavior.
His channel does cover many narc persons and behaviors, although it seems easier to digest in the MM format, imho.
I do appreciate your interviews, Andrew!💜
Andrew you are such a nice guy. I’m astounded how well you and hg Tudor get on. One of your videos made me go check him out again because at an earlier time I was still angry and hateful and I found him intolerable. You don’t cow down to him (is that how that is spelled), you’re not afraid to bring up astute points that may trigger him. But of course you approach it very intelligently and kindly. And he even seems to like you. Hg Tudor does make me laugh out loud at times and I feel dirtier for it. Haha. Anyway enjoy your interviews with him. And Tudor has taught me a lot. An ex who is a narcissist and now a daughter. I do wish people who cover narcissism would talk about children who are narcissists. I have two children and taught for 20 years. Yes, I know childhood goes hand in hand with being narcissistic. But looking back with my daughter there were differences and now it’s so obvious. Nobody will talk about this - pre Narccissistic personality disorder in children. It would help parents who just don’t see it for what it is.
That's a good point!!
If you see video clips of Harry's wife as a child, she was definitely a red flag even then. That fishing trip was weird, where she was kind of repeating a mantra about going fishing, rather than actually being genuinely happy. It's like she knew that that would "warm daddy's heart" so that's what she did.
Also, many young girls have fantasies about "being a princess", but none will pursue it as Literally as what Harry's wife has! She is Ruthless in going after what she wants.
Also, that teenaged crazy eyed look when she said "Daddy, I got an English award!" Too weird.
I believe that Dorias own Narcissistic and neglectful parenting style, together with Thomas's over indulging one, has served to foster that Narcissism in her.
Please tell me a few differences you noticed. I suspect that in one of my children, but I've been told it's oppositional defiance. She just doesn't hit all the marks for oppositional defiance disorder, so I'm not sold. No one really is looking at narcissism in kids. I guess because they don't diagnose things Iike that until adulthood but they need to rethink that.
I want to be prepared for what may come when my child becomes an adult.
I believe Harry's wife is a narcissist based upon her behavior. Wonderful and informative video, thank you, HG and Andrew.
It is INCREDIBLE how well H G understands everyone else and how he instantly can accurately analyse other people's perspective and reaction. Constantly impressed by the depth of insight he has. And in a live chat this ability is phenomenal. And with that touch of dry wit that makes listening to him so enjoyable ....
@Sparkle de Jager: Narcissists live to analyze people. That is what makes them such master manipulators. They generally are excellent listeners,too. But it's only done in order to allow them to expertly manipulate you later.
Some of the loudest feminists in the 60s and 70s were middle class women who did not work and were married to rich husbands . The rest of us were too busy working (from age 15 in my case) and appreciating the freedom of choice that we had 🤣
Yes but working women benefited from the feminists' work. Back in the day, my mom put a down payment on a home and was working full-time, but it had to go only in my Dad's name. She couldn't even have a credit card in her name. That's just a few of the things that changed over the years. I say hurray to those strident/wealthy women who worked hard to change things for all of us. There is still work to do.
@@shadesofgray5476 You’re both correct. When I was born, women couldn’t get a credit card or bank account without their husband’s or father’s permission. Feminists are busy now fighting for men who believe they’re women to take opportunities, college scholarships, & jobs away from girls & women; they’re literally trying to undo Title IX, which is one of their very few good accomplishments. They’ve done nothing for decades except pimp for Planned Parenthood & Big Pharma Fertility. Until #MeToo, the only times they care about women being sexually harassed or raped has been when a conservative is about to be appointed to the Supreme Court & put Roe v Wade in danger & then suddenly every candidate is a rapist. I’m thankful for my right to vote, have my own bank account, etc ., but I also wish we had things that feminists helped to get rid of like families being about to afford life on one salary at least for the first several years of kids lives, I wish boys & men would treat us with respect & open the door, etc., & more than anything I wish they hadn’t pushed casual sex to the point where children have to have multiple sexual partners if they want to have friends in school. Feminists are wrong about the basic fact that men & women are not the same. We are different, but are both of the highest value; any society that’s missing one gender turns into a hell on earth. Feminists, for all their “girl power”, are the biggest women-hating misogynists because they decided that women aren’t good enough the way we are & that we have to act like men & not even like good men the sleaziest, greediest, most selfish version of men.
Watch “A Wolf in Sheep’s Clothing: The Gender Agenda” on EWTN
@@southbug27 thank you.
100% agreed!
@@shadesofgray5476 interestingly though my brother was only 20 when he got married in 1959 so the house they bought went in my sister in law’s name as she was 21.
@@shadesofgray5476not if the wealthy women are lying in a bid to make money off the backs of trying to destroy their families. It’s blood money.
HG TUDOR’s dry sense of humour is excellent
Both you and GH are the business, Andrew. You both put out such educational and entertaining videos. Endlessly interesting and so well presented. I've learned a lot about narcissism and cult from you.
Much appreciated!
@@AndrewGold1 Thank you! ...Both of you.
Always enjoy watching you two hash out these topics. You really do complement one another in an interview/chitchat environment.
what she did to her family especially her father is unforgivable
I am not afraid of HG anymore. He is helping me understand a 20 plus year marriage/relationship. It helps sort my empathetic traits.❤. I will absolutely be on the doorstep with tea and sympathy.🥰💯👍🏽
Be on the doorstep with tea and sympathy for who? A TH-cam personality who may or may not be a real voice that is a self admitted narcissist? Please don't. You need to keep learning if that's the case!
I was brought up by my grandmothers and great grandmothers, born around 1880-1915, and we were poor. There were very few hugs, but they were warm like wooden stoves, glowing with material care, like food, clothes, wood, a roof over my head, and even books, a luxury. etc. a hundred plus years ago, one didn't talk about feelings. I'm not sure this massive overdose of introspection is a good thing. HG Tudor is normally not my cup of tea, but this time his voice is much more relaxed, and I can take in his knowledge. You gave me an idea, though, Andrew, if I create a channel, I will talk to myself, having one good and one bad personality. It's easy to create voices now, with ChatGPT.
Narcissists create most of the chaos that affects society. And I'm enjoying watching MememeAgain circling the drain!
I do find it refreshing to hear HG admit to his inability to empathise. You can forgive a person's limitations and exploitations when the person has insight into both.
you should listen to his video on 'scrap heap' there is no way to forgive the behaviour of a narc, they need accountability and he is wrong, love does not require empathy - decency and abiding by the law doesn't require it either. Andrew is doing these vids for traffic, every time he advertises Harry is a narc he actually goes against what HG describes as a narc etc
Anybody who cannot empathize, I want nothing to do with them, including this guy!
With no empathy, you’re of course being 100% negative regarding Meghan. With no empathy, how can you possibly even understand how Meghan feels or acts the way she does!
With that said, it is YOU, HG Tudor, who is an empty vessel! I actually feel sorry for you.
Andrew, how on earth could you tolerate this guy?! Wow!
If Megan is a narcissist, and you’re a narcissist, and you say there’s no substance to her, etc., then you have all of those traits yourself! Joy oh joy, bet you’re a blast to be with! 🙄 Oh right, you’re all alone! But Meghan isn’t 😁😅
H.G. Tudor has given me insight with regards to a family member who I could not understand as the person did mean and cruel things to those in their power. Thanks.
Sounds like you're dealing with narcissistic abuse. There's a psychologist who helps with understanding this on YT. Check out Dr. Ramani if you're interested. Best of luck!
@@whendays659 I learned how to deal with her as a young child. I just ignored her negative comments but still thought it was weird that she would pit all my siblings against each other. I figured it was because she was an only child and didn’t know how to parent. After a short time my mother left me alone on her control trip. I was 6 or 7 when she told me I was nothing and I thought God and my teachers thought I was great so I never worried about what she thought of me.
Great interview!! I’ve watched a lot of youtube channels on narcissism over the past couple of years and nobody explains it better than HG Tudor. Much as I can’t stand her, it was actually my interest in Harry’s wife and her narcissism that led me to discover the narcissists in my own life, so I should be thanking her really…🤷🏻♀️😁🙏🏼
I never, ever listened to Harry's wife's podcasts nor will I ever but I did watch HG Tudor's video coverage of same which was wholly entertaining and informative.
I’d be so intimidated to speak to a known narcissist, but HG has learned normal behavior so well that you often forget he is one. It’s a form of consideration, even if it is for him own benefit. If people have to fake consideration, it still makes the world a better place. But I guess that’s to much to ask of some.
Not just a narcissist, a narcissist psychopath, or anti social disorder
You're really in your game. You're cranking out these videos lately.
Lovin' it!!!
More to come!
“ Fridge Magnet Platitudes “ … that’s a keeper 🤗
It is, isn't it? Loved that!
I love your episodes with H.G. Tudor. It's fascinating. I grew up with (what he would term) a mid-range narcissist, and I've been subjected first-hand how awful they are. I respect the information H.G. gives, but I'm very glad I will never have to know him in real life! But, this is why I personally watch videos from people about Meghan. I could tell she was off from the get-go, and the more I saw, the more she reminded me of the narcissist I grew up with. So, yes, I'm sure she's a narcissist. Absolutely 100%.
Love HGT!!! Andrew & he are a perfect duo. Literally LOL'd a few times. As always, great show. With much love from the beautiful Arkansas River Valley 💞
Glad you enjoyed!
No one ever talks about Harry being weak, a follower, mindless, etc.
Loved that & looking forward to more. Thanks Andrew 👏. HG Tudor rocks 🤘. His channel is excellent 🤴.
M&H never liked Frogmore, didn't want to live there as it wasn't grand enough, but now with termination of lease, they love their home, so safe and full of memories that we'd like an extension to gather our cherished memories.
Brilliant! So many of my questions and thoughts were addressed in this interview. Great questions Andrew and a perfect presentation HG ❤
It's always interesting when HG Tudar on! 💙🦔🦔🦔
I loved this video. Can we please have more? I subscribe to both Andrew and HG Tudor and it's so good to listen to both of you having a discussion.
When i watch and listen to Meghan, I always have the sense that she is performing. She just doesn't come across as genuine. Thank you Andrew for this, I always enjoy HG Tudor
Thank you for this. I enjoy both of your channels, but I think you drew out insights from HG that I haven’t observed before. Great interview!
I had a chance at fame. Literally worked with Oscar winners and such. I didn’t want it. It’s horrible everyone following what you do. It’s just horrible. (Oprah included ha!). It’s a horrible world where most people are so obsessed with being famous opposed to being good at their jobs. It’s sole sucking and at some point you’re going to have to sell out. And the self obsession is just painful. I have enough stories to last a lifetime and live a great life now .
Imagine being famous and never really knowing who your true friends are? Or if you have any?.
Being famous has always seemed like a false reality to me.
@@66kaisersoza I grew up in an entertainment town. I saw good bad and ugly. The ugly generally new talent that have done nothing yet but get a record deal. I worked with Jonny cash at the end of his career. Never met a more humble man. There are good people involved but I literally knew gangsters. Yes that happens. I don’t want a part of crazy but now I serve coffee for a living and I think most people are crazy.
that's what Russell Brand says, it's all fake, so that p uts the Markles 'new friends' and christenings and godfathers etc in perspective!
@@maryjohnson6796 I believe Meghan is searching for more than just fame, money and recognition. If that was the case, she would've just stayed with the royal family and agreed to follow their rules and cut ribbons and smile.
I believe she wants Power. That's what she wanted from day one. I believe she actively pursued Harry with the intention of sucking him dry - using his family connections to her full advantage. I believe her to be cold and calculating. She is definitely a Villain that can be counted with the worst of the gan gsters
Sole sucking. That’s like booty juice yea?
What is the end game for H&M? This cannot go on and on or can it?
A year on , and the circus , tho insufferable, still goes on! Sick to the back teeth of those 2!!
A excellent interview as always.HG is a master in explaining Narcissists.
Thank your !!!
You are observing and analyzing pop culture. Narcissism exists and right now it's having a moment. You both provide information and entertainment whether I agree or not.
These discussions/interviews with HG Tudor, are top quality. You are both honest and knowledgeable people with talent. The vlogs are absorbing and interesting. Thank you Tudor and Gold.
Apparently when John Lennon was younger he wasn't a particularly nice person. He have up his Brit UK citizenship & returned his CBE awarded by the Queen. He was described as an angry young narc/sociopath man. When he hooked up with Yoko Ono he went thru' rough patches & anorexia, habitual drugged up. John (like Marvin Gaye exile in Belgium/Bob Marley exiled in Brit UK) exiled in New York, took 5yrs out of public, stopped protesting, stopped touring, stopped promotions, went cold turkey off drugs, stopped nterviews, became a house husband, a stay @ home father, became peaceful, semi retired, private travelling. He became a renaissance man. Then he wrote new music, released new stuff, got healthy, free from his demons/past, ready 2 go public ...... We know how it all ended, tragically when he was @ his most peaceful state of mind. He left behind a legacy of good works & is a legend. So would be interesting if HG Tudor could analyse John Lennon cadre. Was he a narc or empath or borderline? Did he really change be cos his emotional thinking got a respite from the daily grinding "celebrity" treadmill? Can a leopard change their spots. Mind you HG Tudor did state a Narc never changes AND there's no such thing as a part time Narc
Was going to say his legendary asswholeness especially towards his older son is notorious. I went to the same college as yoko. The urban legends about her were hilarious.
HG didn't know John Lennon so it doesn't matter what HG thinks.
@@gleefulme9617 HG Tudor doesn't know most of the "celebs" he's analysised. Does HG Tudor know Will Smith? Jada pinket Smith? Boris Johnson? Ben Affleck? James cordon etc etc etc - no he doesn't !
Maybe John Lennon finally found peace after a disruptive and confusing childhood
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When megain went to a homeless shelter for pregnant women ,she wore thousands of pounds worth of clothes and jewelry and a 6ooo pound chanel bag how disgusting is that she just dosent care and there were paps outside of course......
Theres only one HG Tudor. great fun having him on.
It’s got to be exhausting being a psychopathic narcissist!!
Meghan markle has issues that’s for certain. Harry was a grand prize for her but she will certainly dump him like her past exes, friends and family members when she has gained all she can from him and he no longer serves her. Unfortunately for Harry he will lose everything in that process, family, friends, integrity, reputation and status. She will only have gained. He wasn’t bright enough to see it coming. I think many variables contributed to the perfect storm and harry was her perfect victim. He was a sitting duck. He really could not have chosen worse if he had set out to.
HG is amazing, his voice is hypnotic can't stop listening to him.
Excellent video. Very informative and entertaining. HG is brilliant. I didn't understand narcissism until I listened to HG analyses. He explains narcissism in a fascinating and entertaining way.
I was gratified to hear HGT identify Charles as a narcissist because I have suspected it for years. We can see how disastrous then it was for the extremely emotionally needy empath, Diana, to couple then with the exact opposite of what she was hoping for: a loving, caring man who would really be there for her emotionally. Instead she got man child who really didn't care about her at all and really just used her as a tool in the moving forward of what was expected of him. It must have just been incredibly devastating for her. For anyone who's ever had a relationship with a narcissist in a close intimate way it's absolutely devastating. So it's certainly gives insight to how difficult those initial years must have been for her....well for all the time she was with Charles!
Diana wasn’t perfect either. Simply labelling Charles a narcissist doesn’t excuse Diana’s behaviour’s towards him and other members of the Royal family.
She was happy with the status Charles gave her as the Princess of Wales. She had numerous affairs. Yet Charles still gave her a very generous divorce settlement. Plus the fact he continued to pay for her security. That stopped shortly before the Martin Bashir interview.
Diana’s paranoia caused her to dismiss palace security.
Charles has had everybody fawning over him since he was a baby. Of course he’s not “normal”. Nobody could be, after that.
Diana was pretty toxic herself tbh.
Diana was reported to be extremely controlling even as a 19 year old.
Diana was a Royal mess.
Excellent video. HG Tudor has taught me so much about how narcs operate, he always seems to be on the mark. Thank you Andrew and HG, very informative.
I am so glad I found your channel.... It was purely by accident. You have a great channel. Thank you ❤️😊
I agree, Andrew's videos are always highly interesting. His content is definitely my kind of thing, I'm so glad he continues to put out great videos!
Crazy paradoxical!!!
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You and HG are the same !!!
Really enjoyed the questions and the answers. Thank you
Great conversation
What a wealth of knowledge he is!
Love the idea that some people think you and HG are one and the same. There was a brief moment after that discussion where you did actually sound the same. My mind exploded into a multiverse at that moment.
My aunt, as a young woman in 1960’s London, worked at one of the big brand hairdressers. One time, she cut the young Prince Charles’ hair. She said that he was basically a little entitled sh1t and she refused to deal with him a second time.
I do enjoy listening to you both and H G Tudor either solo or like today together
I love listening to this guy. Great show!
Great conversation. HG knows his shit. Andrew asks good questions. Hope to see more.
Thank you, Andrew and HG Tudor, from South Africa 🇿🇦
💯. Just ignore them. Who is she? They say she was an actress. Never heard of her like Julia Roberts or Jennifer Garner until she married this prince and now she's all over? Whatever happened to their "privacy"? I'm astounded.
Hello Andrew, well, I am obsessed with you speaking with HG Tudor, regardless of the topic.
more to come this week!
I learned so much of how traumatic being in a relationship with the narcissist. I healed far more in 5 months listening to HG Tudor than 5 months of traditional therapy.
Love your channel and love HG’s channel! I really enjoy your conversations. Keep up the awesome work, you’re a better journalist than anyone on TV!
“Fridge Magnet Platitudes”! You have the best one liners HG! 🇨🇦
Andrew & HG Tudor are good together. Very humorous debate going on. Laughed every time Andrew cracked a joke, and HG Tudor took time to react. It seemed like he was thinking, 'Hey, was that a joke ? Um, time to laugh'. Brilliant 👏
Haha, HG Gold - and Andrew Tudor. Brilliant discussion
Thanks Andrew, brilliant as usual. I have heard you ask your audience several times ‘whether your edgehogs, or the person you are interviewing, think your a narcissist’. No, you are so far removed from one that never the Twain shall meet. You are a brilliant interviewer because of your empathy, really😀.
I’m absolutely enjoying your amazing conversation! More, please !!!
Fish don't have a pre frontal cortex? This is awesome and the swim in 💩🤣👍🏽TY
Love this chat!!!
How the hell did they let her into the royal family
Now that is the question of the Century!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
It's been suggested that she would have played the race card if she hadn't been welcomed with open arms!!!!!
It was her 'love-bombing of Harry' that made him her advocate - that's what narcs do. William and the Queen erred in caution, but Harry didn't take it onboard. Remember, he had 2 long standing girlfriends who decided against 'royal life' so was desperate to find someone who wanted it. Meghan has always wanted it, being obsessed with Princess Diana, she moved on Harry (even wearing the same perfume as his Mum). It was a pure opportunistic manipulation of Harry by someone who saw herself as the new Princess Diana. That's why she's so jealous of Kate, occupying the role she believes is hers.
@@MarkmanOTW Remember when William advised H to take his time with Meg . His brother said he was being racist with that remark so I guess the race card was constantly played to clear all obstacles !
@@ninjacat4929 Yes, I do remember that. Funnily enough, when I first learnt of MM and watched their 'engagement interview' in 2017, I saw so many red flags and concluded she was a narcissist. I was able to do this as I had been learning about and studying intently 'narcissism' that year as part of my recovery, having excited a relationship with a narcissist (very confused about what had happened) only the previous year. I predicted troublesome times ahead before 'the tide turned', while many were still taken in. Subsequent appearances and events only reinforced this even up to their wedding.
" QUARTER WITS" .......😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😂😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅laughed my ass off
Excellent interview, thank you Andrew. I often direct ppl to HG who don't believe about MM, because I know he will set them straight.
Great interview, really enjoyed the chemistry between you and HG, Andrew
Love Andrew can’t care about Meghan! So over her🎉
Yay! Love HG Tudor. This is gonna be good 😁👏
Naturally being a narcissist, Tudor knows the exact behavior and nature of a narcissist. I like the use of the term "prime aims". What is baffling is how Tudor is self-aware. I wouldn't know the stats on how many narcs, diagnosed or not, truly believe or understand their disorder. I only know of one other, Sam Vaknin , who has written books and given lectures on the topic, which again is baffling because clearly both Tudor and Vaknin do so for opportunistic and ego driven reasons, rather than to be helpful and informative one would think. It's such a mind f**k dealing with those who have a Cluster B personality disorder and as someone who was married to one for 22 years (he had myriad co-morbid mental illnesses) it can cause all manner of damage...physical and emotional.
These conversations with you & HG are always enlightening sessions
Andrew and HG Tudor made my morning! I wish you collaborated more and more.
Thank you! ☀
PS. You are not a narcissist for sure. And I'm glad I came across your channel. I enjoy your videos so much 🌹
Most fascinating listening to you and #HGTudor discuss issues!
Oh wow, HG Tudor 👏👏
This was very educational and interesting, thank you Andrew and HG.
14:44 😂 omg I’d never confuse you two!
Narcissist, sociopath psychopath, and other words which are truly psychological diagnosis are so over used now! Selfish or attention seeking, or good old self absorbed are not necessarily synonymous with one who is truly a psychopath or sociopath! And Andrew I'm not picking apart this video! I think you're brilliant! I'm speaking in generalities with so many true crime creator's calling the Villan in every case a narcissist!
You two have very interesting, fascinating discussions! Made possible because of mutual respect. If you have that, you can discuss anything.
A delight to listen to!
Thanks always ❤️👍🏽💯☮️
Any time!
Andrew, that swimming in 💩 comment was pure GOLD!!!!