🍃Big Problem With 15mm Slimline CPAP Tubes - Part 1.
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- Despite what your partner told you...SIZE DOES MATTER! The same goes for CPAP tubes! If you're having difficulty adjusting to life with a CPAP Machine, try switching from a Slimline 15mm tube to a standard 22mm tube. Those few extra millimetres can often be the difference between CPAP success and failure, as it will reduce the high airflow velocity and make therapy easier and more enjoyable. A standard tube can cost as little as $10, so it's a no-brainer if you're struggling; however, if you're sleeping well with the slimline tube, then carry on, my friends. I will also mention that the difference is more noticeable with nasal pillow masks and higher pressures. Cheers
For those interested in more in-depth analysis, including detailed velocity measurements, check out part 2 in my SleepHQ Community Forum. I'll also share with you some of my favourite cpap tube accessories. You'll need to be a member (sleephq.com/us... however, you can sign up for a free 14-day trial with no credit card and access all the great content and information.
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It's the same as switching to a 19mm tube, but if you just want to feel the difference, you can get a little piece of sticky tape, cut a small square and place it over the little electrical connection on your climate line tubing (turn the heated tube off). This stops the climate line connection and enables you to switch tubing modes in your settings between slimline and standard. Switch it to standard, and you should notice the difference, especially on higher pressure levels. For those interested in more in-depth analysis, including detailed velocity measurements, check out part 2 in my SleepHQ Community Forum - cpap.review/19mm. I'll also share with you some of my favourite cpap tube accessories. You'll need to be a member (sleephq.com/users/sign_up); however, you can sign up for a free 14-day trial with no credit card and access all the great content and information. At the end of your free 14-day trial, you can continue to use my SleepHQ CPAP Management Platform FOR FREE to check out all your cpap charts etc, however you just won't have access to the community forum anymore.
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Do you answer questions here????
yeah i try to help as many people as i can@@sandywhat2429
@@CPAPReviews Awesome. So can I ask a question?
I've been on CPAP for 5 years. I'm in canada.
Severe apnea, the whole experience has been a bloody nightmare from day one. I'm quite ill.
All the masks hurt my face so bad. I can't wear nasal. They feel heavy. Right from day 1 my teeth started moving, breaking. At the pressure points of these full face masks I've lost or had to have the upper and lower teeth surgically pulled because of cracking, breaking, cavities. I take impeccable care of my teeth?!!!
They masks feel too tight but they're as loose as I can wear without tons of leaks. All these masks hurt my face and they're destroying my teeth??? Like wtf is even happening here??
Honestly I'm almost ready to give up, and I really mean give up.
Theres no recent healthcare here. Theres no higher quality healthcare. I've seen the dentist, they have no idea. I've called the sleep dr they can't help. I've seen all the masks here.
I have about 15 bloody masks here, everything hurts my face.
I can't use a nasal mask, an ENT surgeon destroyed my sinuses.
Any idea what the hell is happening? Or what I can do?
I fought for a trach but they won't give me one.
Hey Sandy, first thing i'll say is you're not alone! Thousands of people are struggling with the same issues you're having right now. It seems to me your issues are mostly teeth-related. It's well known (i've done a few videos on this) that mouth dryness caused by CPAP is a major cause of tooth decay so i'd focus on techniques to reduce mouth dryness.
Have you ever tried mouth-taping?. Kinesology tape is my personal fav. it's a cheap fabric tape that you can cut to a size that suits you (lots of videos on TH-cam), but this will stop your mouth from dropping open during REM sleep when you lose muscle tone and the CPAP pressure increases. You also need to increase the humidity in the air as this alleviates congestion and makes it easier to breathe through your nose. I nice warm shower and also a 'warm saline nasal rinse' before bed is also wonderful and if you can keep you head slightly elevated so your mucus can naturally drain down into your stomach.
There are also some pharmaceutical products that can help. Check out Biotene' as dry mouth is their specialty, and they make some good mouthwash and a few other products. Xylimelts is another little product many cpap users use.
My next tip, and probably my best, is to REDUCE YOUR CPAP PRESSURE! Don't worry about apnea for the moment; drop that pressure down to a point where you are comfortable and use a 19mm tube!!!
If all else fails, start sleeping inclined and stay off your back! (I've done a bunch of vids on this). If you can increase your sleeping angle and stay off your back, it will really help with your sleep apnea.
There are a few tips anyway, and I hope they help you on your journey! Cheers mate
I am having really serious problems adapting to my CPAP, But I find myself not wanting to give up partially because I would miss your informative and funny videos. but also because I know there are people out there who struggled like I am and Did not give up and now have quality sleep that I so badly crave.
Don’t give up, it changed my life and it may change yours just make it a priority and strap up good, if you use your phone at night try not looking at it for 1 hour before beddy by time. Make it a habit to just wear it and you’ll notice a significant difference
I’ve just joined you uncle Nicko and based on your video and my first nights results on sleep HQ I’ve just ordered a 19mm tube. Should be with me in a couple of days, and I really don’t mind you using my results after using the 19ml. Thanks for everything you are doing for us with CPAP you’re a bloody star mate
Thanks for the info Nick, i never knew that. I use slimline and often need to turn off machine, then turn back on cos i am getting a constant rush of air that wakes me!
Unfortunately i am not in a position to join your community financially . Before anyone attacks me - yes the price is classed as reasonable and what price can you put on your health etc etc. But without going into detail , i just cant afford it. I will keep getting what hints i get from your videos here.
Thanks for all you do though for us CPAP users ❤
You're welcome; just so you know, you get 14 days of free access to the community when you become a member, so you don't have to pay anything to view all the information and education. After 14 days you will lose access the forum however, you can still use my platform to keep track of your cpap therapy
Thank you for addressing this as I only use standard size tubes because I experienced issues you discussed with the slimline ones.😊
I'm scared to fix what's not broken.
Thank you so much for kindness
No problem 😊
So why haven't Resmed or my DME supplier told me about this? I'm switching.....thank you Nick for this hot tip. You're the best.
Hey . You're welcome! It's probably because they didn't know about it. None of the manufacturers provide any of this information/documentation even to clinicians so you kind of have to figure it out for yourself. Lucky for me i've got hundreds of masks and tubes and i'm testing the gear all the time so when i feel something change between masks, settings etc i investigate what the cause was
I believe Resmed doesn’t make a standard heated tube. The DME makes a lot more money selling the heated hoses than non heated ones.
They did with the S9 and i think there was also a time early with the AS10 when they made a standard climatline but they stopped somewhere along the line. It likely had something to do with streamlining supply chain or cost reduction etc. When you have 20-30 million people using your product, every $1 you save is a $1 to the bottom line. Cheers@@Wrkncacnter777
@@CPAPReviews Right, so exactly where would we lost in the woods CPAP babes be without Uncle Nicko? You are greatly appreciated. 👍💙 ☮
I've tried 19mm tubing with my ResMed AS10 for the last few nights (after watching this video) and it has certainly made a difference. I use a DreamWear Silicone Pillows mask and I can't quite pinpoint why it is better, but it seems like less effort is needed during inhalation. I haven't been using a humidifier for a long time and being in Australian summer I have the heating turned off. Thanks for the heads up!
You should come up with your own cpap machine altogether! I’d buy it!
thanks for the support mate! One day perhaps
The more options you give the better. I don't like the wireless stuff but some people do. Being able to disable that would be good. @@CPAPReviews
Thanks Nick. You Da Man!!! 👍👍
Welcome!
My experience was the opposite. When I tried slim tubing it felt like I could not get enough air to breathe properly. I have a high lung capacity so I take pretty deep breaths.
Ultimately machines measure pressure at the machine, not the mask. Everything from the pressure sensor to the mask is a restriction. They might be programmed to account for the pressure loss in humidity chambers and tubing, but they’re not smart enough to know what size of tubing you’re using.
A 15mm tube is more of a restriction than a 19mm tube, a 19mm tube has 60% more cross sectional area than a 15. As such total air flow to maintain the same pressure is lower.
Thanks for sharing your experience mate. There's a lot of variables when it comes to this stuff ie mask, machine, machine settings, tubing as well as physiology etc. When I switched from a standard 19mm tube with the standard setting on the CPAP to a slimline 15mm tube with a slimline setting, the volume airflow nearly doubled. This is from my actual airflow measurements. It doesn't matter, though; what matters is the take-home message, and that is that changing the tube size can improve your therapy comfort. Cheers brother
@@CPAPReviews agreed, end of the day I found a way to make it work for me. It could also be that different machines have different algorithms and predict different outputs. My Luna II is by no means an advanced cpap, especially compared against anything by resmed.
My Prisma A20 has a setting to account for the different 15mm or 19 mm tube diameters so its smart enough to adjust accordingly. I have found that a 15mm tube seems a little harsher but much more responsive to deep breathing demands. My AHI runs between 1 - 2 most days now (even the occasional 0 reading) so I'm happy enough with the slimmer tubing and the machine.
@kevinblythe2192 i imagine the Germans have their ducks in a row. I can't wait to have it fully integrated with SleepHQ. We're very close now
@@CPAPReviews I look forward to that integration Nick.
Thanks for the tip. I did seem to notice a big difference when I got the slim line tubing. It seemed much "harsher." As for altering my AirCurve BIPAP machine's settings, I get a nasty "you shouldn't alter your settings" call from my respirologist whenever I even go to the "advanced" menu options. :(
You're welcome mate, most users will notice the difference especially those with higher pressures. Yeah i think that's old school mentality however each to their own i guess. Cheers buddy
"I get a nasty "you shouldn't alter your settings" call from my respirologist whenever I even go to the "advanced" menu options. :("
Damn that wouldn't happen twice if I had any other options. Happily I do have other options.
That's messed up that they treat you like that. I wouldn't tolerate it.
@@travv88 Thanks for the sentiment, but that’s just how things are here. The government owns my bipap machine and I just lease it from them.
@@gromit1996 I wonder if you could wear them down? Just make a small adjustment every day and only answer them on their third call. Still it's the government, so I guess if the book says they have to make a call then that's what they have to do. At least you have the machine to use.
Can I ask if you get sent a large amount of "consumables"? masks, hoses etc.
It all boils (pun intended) down to a thing called
Boyle's Law: P1V1 = P2V2 at constant temperature 😂
Boyle's Law also states that pressure is inversely related to volume. This means that when pressure is increased, volume is decreased (and vice versa)
Awesome mate, i'm by no means a physics professor but i'll certainly check that out. Cheers
My AirSense 10 lets you adjust to the different tubing. If you switched from a Slimline to standard without adjusting the tube setting, then what Nick said would be true and the airflow speed would decrease along with the pressure. By choosing the correct tube setting on your machine, there is no difference between the Slimline and standard tubing. As a rocket scientist and propulsion expert I could show you the mathematical equations to prove my statement, but it would be over most people's heads.
Going to press doubt on that.
Not saying you couldn't be correct under certain conditions, but those conditions would not be the conditions that a cpap machine operates.
I have absolutely no doubt you're smarter than I am on this topic; however, check out the SleepHQ video as I've taken all the velocity measurements with A. the different Tube sizes and also B. the different machine settings. (all the combinations) and the difference is HUGE, especially with the nasal pillows and regardless of any measurements, you can just feel it on your face and in the mask and in your lungs, and the higher the pressure, the greater the difference. If you have a standard tube with standard setting and you change to a slimline tube with slimline setting the ariflow speed is almost DOUBLE! at 13cmH2O with pillows. I'm not saying your formulas are not correct i'm just saying that is what it feels like and also what it measures for me. Cheers. I recommend you watch this th-cam.com/video/gY_CFdk9L1E/w-d-xo.html
Is there a 19mm heated tube option?
For AirSense 10, it's the ClimateLineAir Oxy heated tube with 19mm ID.
@jameszeeb8683 - I came here to ask that same question. I had found the oxy tube, and wondered whether or not it an be used without the oxygen attached. I haven't seen that explicitly addressed, but looking at the hose I don't see any sort of interlock that would require the oxygen.
(I'm assuming that the oxy hose - being 19 mm - would give the same increased air flow benefit as the 19 mm standard tube. )
I suspect my insurance would not cover the oxy tube as I haven't been prescribed the need to use oxygen with my CPAP therapy. So while the cost of the oxy heated tube is only about $20 more than the standard, my out-of-pocket cost would be about $70. I think I'll go ahead and buy one if it gives me the benefit of less dry mouth.
@@exxr- do you know if the 19 mm heated (oxy) tube causes the machine to prompt for the slimline or standard tube option? Or is it automatic? My concern would be if I buy the oxy tube but still have the higher air velocity as the slimline tube
@@wmf1595 Yeah, it will work fine. The machine will detect it and I believe the oxy port is plugged if you don't require it.
I have to figure out how to readjust the settings. I tried switching to the 19mm and came across 2 problems. First, coming from the Resmed ClimateAir heated tube which is 15mm, and the 19mm being an unheated, standard tube, the air temp was noticeably colder and, as a result, uncomfortable. Second, and even though the pressure setting on my AS10 was unchanged, it felt like the pressure was markedly different.
A final question I have is that since the tubing on the mask that leads to the main tubing is always very slim, aren't you still getting basically the same amount of air?
1. If you want a 19mm climateline you'll have to order the ResMed Climateline Oxy tube. 2. Yes the airflow/pressure will feel different as that's the point of the video. The aim was to help improve compliance for those cpap users who are struggling with side effects and from reading through the comments just now it looks like it's already working. I've answered that other 15mm question in another comment and also done a full write up with detailed velocity measurements in the SleepHQ Pro Community
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Thanks, Mate. I'm going through all that stuff now. Appreciate it!!
I had always used the 19mm tube and a couple of weeks ago I bought an Airsense 10 which incorporates a slim tube.
I decided to try the slim tube and the first morning I woke up with a stomach like a balloon, I thought it was a problem with the configuration of the machine, I tried everything without finding the solution.
Two days ago I decided to clean the slim tube and as a replacement I connected a 19mm tube, to my surprise the problem disappeared completely.
Hey, really appreciate the comment and for the video validation. Glad to hear your aerophagia has resolved by switching to the 19mm. Cheers
Is a 19mm heated tube available for airsense 11? I haven't been able to find one so far.
No, they don't make one. You can get the third party Hybernite Universal heated tube.
If i change from slimline to standard, my insurance supplier sends a imitation. feels like flexible Conduit For Electrical Wiring, something like moldflex. Real horror.
Would love to be able to try a 19mm on the air mini. Not sure how I would connect it though. I have the adapter but most of the tube 19 mm seem to have a figment at the other end for specific machines.
G'day Alan, yeah i'm really looking forward to testing out the travel cpap machines! You can use a 19mm with the Airmin however i don't believe you could use the AirMini Specific masks with the humidx cartridges with a 19mm tube. I'll put on my thinking cap and see if i can come up with a way to connect a 19mm tube to an airmini mask. Cheers buddy
Bog stock resmed heated is 15mm by the look of mine. Doing a search and most don't list the tube size.
Hey bro, yeah that's correct. The only way to get the ResMed ClimateLine tubing in the 19mm is to purchase the ClimateLine Oxy tubing. That comes in 19mm. That being said, please don't feel you need to change unless you're having a difficult time with therapy. Cheers
Im more interested in how the machine reads data with different hoses.. On my Prisma20a I swapped tubing and size settings.... GOt wild readings going up in tube diameter so switched back.... Would love some more info on how this works??
Wife giving you stress mate? lol going gray there. lol love the programs
haha, the old lady is a gem but the 4 kids are handful . I'm embracing it! Nature has no use for me now that i'm 40 and have passed on my genes to the next gen
My machine only shows a 15mm tube. The machine is a DreamStation Pro CPAP Machine. The selections are 12, 15, and 22. Any suggestions? Thanks
Hmmm, that might be a 'locked' setting that you need to access through the 'clinical mode / provider menu' Here's a vid for you - th-cam.com/video/8fCM4Mp_bPw/w-d-xo.html
I can select different tube sizes. However, 19mm isn't one. So will the 22 safice instead of the 19mm in your video. Sorry for the confusion.
Ahhh yes! Although the actual diameter is 19mm they are often called 22mm and on many machines it will be labelled 22mm in the settings. Cheers
Should I keep using my modified Phillips respirironics machine or should I get a resmed?
Thank you Nick, much appreciated! Would a 22mm tube be even better ?
You're welcome, yes that's correct. As you increase the diameter you decrease the airflow speed and vice versa. have a nice day
Nick. I use the 15 mm with my terrific DreamStation 1 (revised) actually the DS1 original worked okay for me as well
I try to keep up with everyone of your postings.
Hey mate, yeah i really want people to understand that if you're not having any issues with your smaller tube then you really don't need to change unless you want to try it etc. Can pick up a standard tube (non heated) for around $10 these days so it's not a big outlay if anyone wants to give it a go and just try it for themselves etc. Cheers
What about the electrical connection end of the tubes? Does the Fisher & Paykel Standard Tube have a compatible connection to the Resmed 11 machine like the Resmed Slimline tube?
What about the reduction that the bleep mask has ?
It seems every website in America pushes the slimline. Does anyone know of a website that will sell standard tubing for ResMed 11?
So do they make 19mm Heated? Thanks Uncle Nicko................
I have Prisma 20A with 19 mm standard hose. I have bought F&P Evora full face mask which has short part of 15 mm hose that has to be conected to my standard hose. Is there any effect on pressure in mask? The first 2 days I noticed the drop in leakage, but increase AHI.
What about the impact of the short connector hose also only 15mm for the Airfit N20 mask. Wouldn’t that just negate the impact of the benefit of the 19mm hose? @nicko? 😅
Iv answered this question somewhere below mate 🤙
Hey mate - so with the increased diameter and less velocity not mean you have to increase your pressures to compensate? How would you have the same result (open airway) from a wider tube with less pressure pushing down the passage (throat, not back :P) opening airway? Hope this question makes sense!
Hey mate, it's actually the opposite, with a wider tube, there's less resistance to flow so you don't get much of a pressure drop (same goes with a full face mask vs a nasal pillow mask). With the smaller diameter tube there's more resistance which results in a pressure drop a the mask and this is part of the reason the airflow is faster. The CPAP knows there will be a pressure drop at the mask with the smaller tube and as a result the blower spins faster to maintain the pressure. It's hard to get your head around i know but switch that setting on your cpap from standard to slimline and you'll feel notice a lot more airflow because your programming the device for added resistance. Cheers
@@CPAPReviews in one sense that counterintuitive but when you think (and explained like you just have) that makes total sense. Bloody hell, how is it that someone as good looking as you can be that smart too ! Haha. love you work mate thanks for explaining, ordered the wider oxy tube and we'll give her a good crack and see if we get an easier night.
I'm a lot of things, but good-looking is clearly not one of them . Make sure when you order the wider oxy tube that it's 19mm. I'm not sure if they make one in the 15mm but just double check with the store anyway. Cheers buddy
@@CPAPReviews haha nah mate we pump each other up here lol 😹
Hopefully the one coming today is 19mm we'll see.. if not I'll head to Bunnings and get some 19mm PVC pipe and give that a crack!!
@@CPAPReviews hey mate, got the tube and trying it out.. definitely notice a difference.. feels like having EPR on, way more comfortable - way less velocity (I get it now!)
Only question - on my machine it doesn't have the option to switch between tube types, is this because I got the oxy climate line and it just auto picks it up?
How do you know what size tube you have. Is it marked somewhere? Thank you🌻
That's a good question! i don't think they mark it but if you have a ResMed Climateline heated tube (AirSense10 or 11) then it will likely be 15mm. It is possible to measure it just with a tape measure or ruler also
@@CPAPReviews Thank you for getting back to me so fast. Sadly, I have a dreamstation. Wanting to get an 11. That's what you use right?🌻
There's two options if you want a heated tube. 1. ResMed makes a 19mm ClimateLine OXY tube and 2. Platiflex Hybernite Superdry which has it's own power supply
@@CPAPReviews Thank you again🌻
Hey Nikko !! When did you start bleaching your beard white ????
hahahaha, i thank my four children for that! They tell me i'm turning into a 'grandpa'. I'm grateful i still have hair as my old man is completely bald
What are the effects of the different lengths (6',8',10') of tubeing?
That's a great question, without testing myself i would likely expect a drop in pressure as the tube get's longer (more airflow resistance) and i think you'll likely get a drop in the airflow velocity (This is primarily due to the effects of friction and pressure losses that are more pronounced in turbulent flow which is what we have in the cpap tube). Cheers
Hi mate , any idea why, I have the heated tube for airsense 11 , and I usually use 11 pressure with the P30i mask and is fine. But I needed a full face mask. So I bought the airfit F20 full face AIR FIT mask by resmed. And I can't breath right. I have go over 19 pressure and still feel like I need more air and wake up in the middle of the night with not enough air and need to change mask. Thank you for anwser anyone! Any good full face idea for more air , I guess?
Hey brother, i did a video on this a while back - th-cam.com/video/ICrsck-sHaw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=bNf18_3nsUUlAU8g. It doesn't really explain the 'why' in the video however it's well established that you pressure requirements are less when using a pillow mask vs a full. My hypothesis is that with the nasal pillow-style masks, because of the little holes, conservation of mass kicks in which means at the point where you have those little pillow holes in your nasal cavity, the velocity of the air pushing through those holes is very high and that really helps to reduce that airflow limitation. I've used the metaphor before of a fast-flowing river (velocity) pushing all the fallen down branches (airflow limitation) to the side of the river. The ResMed algorithm is very sensitive to the flow limitation so if you reduce that you end up with less pressure which makes therapy a lot more enjoyable. Moreover, it could also work on the EPAP side (exhalation pressure) because as you breathe out, there's more resistance because of the small pillow mask and that creates more back pressure which improves the amount of air in your lungs at the end of expiration (your Functional Residual Capacity), which helps to maintain the stability of your airway (stops it collapsing) at the end of expiration. It might 2 fold. I'm not 100% sure on this though mate. Just me thinking out loud. Cheers
Thanks for response mate! I open mouth when I use P30I and wake up with super dry mouth and wake up etc.. I need a FullFace mask but I feel even with max pressure 20 on the mask Is not enough its weird , I ve ordered the Vitera today I'll try instead of f20@@CPAPReviews
Welcome mate, your should try running your P30i with a standard 19mm tube and also switch the mask setting on your device to 'full face' . Just remember also (if you're using a resmed device) they over-deliver on the pressure and this can cause mouth leak so if i were you i'd try your p30i on a low fixed pressure (you can start at whatever your median auto pressure is on SleepHQ) and see if at lower pressures you can keep your mouth shut. Sometimes i can decrease a patients pressure levels 50% when switching from a full face mask to a pillow mask and still maintain breathing stability. You'll be surprised how low you can go and just remember you don't have to have 100% apnea control. That's not what it's about. It's about taking the stress off the body and your body can deal with A LOT of stress so a few breathing pauses won't do jack shit. Cheers mate. Nicko @@NaksOG
Allright thanks Nick!! I'll try it at lower pressure. If it can keep my mouse shut! If so my new Fullface Vitera is coming tommorow ! Hope I can get enough air. Cause I like full face too , I can handle pressures. It just I feel it doesn't give me enough air on the full face to be comfortable! Cheers
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Awesome mate, hey you can also experiment with the mask settings on your device. If you switch from Full Face to Pillow mask (even when you are using a full face) you should notice more air/pressure. Let me know how you go. Cheers
What is the best possible heated tube for Airsense 10?
If you're looking for a 'heated tube' your options are limited but Plastiflex make a kick-ass tube called Hybernite Superdry. I've done some vids in the SleepHQ Pro community on it. - community.sleephq.com/c/exclusive-content/turbo-charge-your-cpap-humidification . That with the Padacheek lined cover is a fucking dream but it is heavy so you need a tube management system like hose lift or something to hold the weight from pulling down on your mask.
Thanks man. Btw have you looked into hyperbaric oxygen therapy as a way to help people with sleep apnea recover due to oxygen deprivation from this condition? Look into it. There is a bit of evidence that it might be effective for people with sleep apnea and it would be great if some of the big TH-camrs looked into it.@@CPAPReviews
Can you hear the standard tube?
If you mean, can you hear the air up the standard tube? There's less velocity so less turbulence and less noise. Cheers
@@CPAPReviews lol dam cell. I meant heat up the tube temperature like the resmed one
The irony being that the standard tube is cheaper than the slimline 😊.
hahaha that doesn't surprise me one bit
@@gosman949 ? Can you please explain…I don’t understand?
He's saying that you might be comparing the price of a 'heated tube' to a 'non-heated tube'
Does it really matter if you’re using a P10 as I do. The mask short hose is 12 maybe 15 mm and the pillow holes going up your nose are really small by comparison. I could see on a mask where the hose attached right at the mask but in my case can’t see where it would matter.
Hey mate, yeah it's very easy to notice with the P10. i'm seeing this sort of comment a bit on this vid and others ie "it doesn't matter about the big hose because when it hit's the smaller hose of the mask or the pillow holes etc the velocity will increase anyway? Continuity in fluid dynamics yeah, If you have the same volume of air passing from a 19mm to a 15mm then the volume remains the same but the velocity increases. 100% true. But it's not the same volume because the the device is making compensations to the fan speed when you change that setting on your device from standard to slimline (which you can easily feel on your) to compensate for the pressure drop (15mm tube, pillow mask etc) and so the volume is different. It's not Apples and Apples. I'm not going to pretend i'm a Physics professor but i've got a cpap, i've got various tubes lengths and sizes and i've got a devices to measure the velocity and on top of this i've also got the only thing that really matters! The feedback which validates my own personal experience and the data. It's always good to question advice etc but this one is just so easy to feel.
I got a 19mm hose ordered. Thanks for your reply it’s piqued my interest.
Nice beard man!
My machine is set to standard tube type and I use a climate line air. Didn't realise that was classed as slimline. Should I change it?
What ResMed are you using? If you switch to the 'slimline' setting on your device you will likely notice an increase in that airflow. I personally wouldn't do it unless you were struggling with apnea control.
It's a 10. My apnea is low but mask leak high. I'm happy enough with the feel off the air.
Hey, so i think they originally started producing the 10 with an option for both Standard and Slimline Climateline tubes but then they changed it at some point so they only manufacture the slimline version. You likely have the Slimline climateline tubing. @@SchnitzelDaemon
19mm is much better. 15 pruduces more pressure IN and through the pipe.15MM was created for traveling
Monkey see, monkey do. Guess I'm switching too lmao
haha, NO! I don't want people just switching for fun. Only switch if you are having CPAP issues. Cheers