Big Boy 4014 Charges Up Donner | Big Boy Westward Bound Tour

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  • @ThatBIGTRAINGuy
    @ThatBIGTRAINGuy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Awesome shots. And you captured the sound better than most other videos too!
    Great stuff. Thanks so much for sharing this.
    Simon

  • @OrionBerg
    @OrionBerg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    70 to 80 years ago that very locomotive, along with others just like it, was pulling freight up and down those very tracks. She’s right at home 😊

    • @CaidRailfannerGuy
      @CaidRailfannerGuy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Technically, no, the Union Pacific bought out the Southern Pacific (ex owner of the Roseville Sub) in 1996, way after 4014s revenue retirement.

    • @foraminuteforaminute4056
      @foraminuteforaminute4056 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CaidRailfannerGuy Wonder if any cars were ever transferred directly between 4014 and 4294 and (admittedly far less likely) if any that were still exist.

    • @CaidRailfannerGuy
      @CaidRailfannerGuy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@foraminuteforaminute4056 4294 and 4014 were stationed at 2 different places. 4014 was made to haul heavy freight trains from Cheyenne to Laramie. 4294 was mad for heavy freight over donner.

    • @foraminuteforaminute4056
      @foraminuteforaminute4056 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CaidRailfannerGuy Neither one ever went as far as Ogden?

    • @CaidRailfannerGuy
      @CaidRailfannerGuy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@foraminuteforaminute4056 4014 probably went to ogden, 4294 most likely hasn’t.

  • @ELKABONGHERE
    @ELKABONGHERE 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Man that engine is a monster. Just flat out awe inspiring.

  • @marksongbird7534
    @marksongbird7534 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    As someone stated, locomotives are the closest machines to having a soul.

    • @CaidRailfannerGuy
      @CaidRailfannerGuy  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      yup. each one has a personality

    • @ИринаРатникова-т7п
      @ИринаРатникова-т7п 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Они завораживают точно. На современные тепловозы точно нет такой реакции.

    • @ИринаРатникова-т7п
      @ИринаРатникова-т7п 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Спасибо большое автору видео!!! Он дал мне возможность живя в России наблюдать и восторгаться Большим Мальчиком😊❤❤❤❤❤

    • @kbfbest
      @kbfbest 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yep they will let you know when you piss then off really fast.

    • @Yaivenov
      @Yaivenov 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I'd have to include ships as well with the locomotives.

  • @caltrain908railfan
    @caltrain908railfan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Man I wish I could have seen it leaving, Also you did a great video. I love the Donner shots.

    • @CaidRailfannerGuy
      @CaidRailfannerGuy  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@caltrain908railfan thx bro

    • @pageriskin8743
      @pageriskin8743 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep. Stupid onlookers

  • @deltabravo1257
    @deltabravo1257 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

    People still insist on standing mere feet (or less) from the tracks. They just don't have a clue.

    • @iyatemu
      @iyatemu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      If you're not standing on the ballast within the locomotive's loading gauge while the rails are ringing are you even really a railfan?

    • @CaidRailfannerGuy
      @CaidRailfannerGuy  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      @@deltabravo1257 Have you seen the videos of the CPKC 2816 incidents in mexico? Some autorack train reported people in between the track gauges on a bridge. People around steam trains are not very smart.

    • @RUPE88
      @RUPE88 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Cry about it

    • @Michael-t3b5b
      @Michael-t3b5b 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Got to make the train crew nervous not knowing when someone will do something unexpected

    • @michaelinhouston9086
      @michaelinhouston9086 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Never mind the safety issues, you cannot get the full perspective of Big Boy when you are that close.

  • @Whatamidoinghere262
    @Whatamidoinghere262 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I got to see BB when it was in Roseville before this. What a sight to behold!

  • @ScottKew-g8r
    @ScottKew-g8r 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I like the routing this tour took into Northern California. Westbound down the Feather River Canyon and then Eastbound up and over Donner Pass. Too Cool. Super NICE video here. Thank you for sharing!!

    • @CaidRailfannerGuy
      @CaidRailfannerGuy  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ScottKew-g8r I bet the shots up at Portola were great with the WPRM!

    • @michaelmckenzie9542
      @michaelmckenzie9542 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hence western Pacific the feather river route.good call UP!

  • @stevengriffin7873
    @stevengriffin7873 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    What a truly impressive,magnificent beast.Let's have a double header too!

  • @louGriggs1944
    @louGriggs1944 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You got some great shots here. Thank you.

  • @RobereTurbo
    @RobereTurbo 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Whatta super great Engine from the great Era of Steam !! We saw 4014 this week in the city of West, Texas. He stopped Right in front of us to do the grease maintenance on the drive bar bearings. I uploaded 3 videos of 4014 for you all.

  • @anthony851
    @anthony851 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I was surprised to see a road sign under the Auburn Bridge showing "Ophir Rd," Ophir being an unusual name I didn't think I would see it other than at the small town with that name in New Zealand. Photos of the landmarks on my flickr.
    Cool video by the way.
    Anthony

  • @jeremyjohnson457
    @jeremyjohnson457 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Now we need to get the second biggest and the third biggest steam locomotives back in action the cab forward and the Duluth Mesabi and iron Range Yellowstone

    • @artiek1177
      @artiek1177 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It will be nice when 3985 is running again.

  • @whitetailfox1
    @whitetailfox1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    She's screaming "more weight"

    • @infaredxkingz8786
      @infaredxkingz8786 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Look, if you call 4014 beastly names, this is not a girl for God's sake

  • @b3j8
    @b3j8 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Man when he half-tones that whistle, I get a chill!😅

  • @tonikeep4420
    @tonikeep4420 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "Above the sound of dripping rain,
    The distant moaning of a train-
    Whoo whoo.
    Oh that lonesome whistle,
    Drifts across the threstle,
    Whoo whoo.
    The clickety clack,comes echoing back,
    The blue in the night."😢

    • @judybrown4430
      @judybrown4430 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Where are you from please I grew up in Tennessee ❤

  • @infaredxkingz8786
    @infaredxkingz8786 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    And he's not built for passenger service, he's built for freight

  • @maru9517
    @maru9517 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    never be on the wrong side of the tracks in a medical emergency

  • @Scagguy4014
    @Scagguy4014 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    get up that hill soldier!

    • @CaidRailfannerGuy
      @CaidRailfannerGuy  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Scagguy4014 You know its serious when they have to turn on the diesel to help the largest steam locomotive in the world!

  • @ghtaboma
    @ghtaboma หลายเดือนก่อน

    That machine is alive!

  • @lashendawest7509
    @lashendawest7509 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great heritage catches awesome chase and nice video

  • @jamesdezarn-xt8cu
    @jamesdezarn-xt8cu หลายเดือนก่อน

    It is too bad they could not get an original crew employee that may have worked on one of these in the late 1950's or early 1960's and put the up on the head end! There are surely people alive that were crew members on these big boys. I am 73 and worked on the CB&Q in 1969 doing these jobs. I would love to hear from these original crewmen about their perspective of the last runs of these giants!

  • @uffia.6817
    @uffia.6817 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excuse my ignorance but I have the impression that this huge engine doesn't emit much exhaust sound, at least compared to the chugging and puffing of the German steam locos I'm more familiar with (which can be heard from a mile away when going uphill with a load). Is the just the sound quality of the video, a lack of a challenging train weight to be pulled or is the BB simply relatively silent by design ?

    • @CaidRailfannerGuy
      @CaidRailfannerGuy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@uffia.6817 Its most likely a combo of good mic quality and pulling less weight than intended to pull. Its still pretty load though, you can hear it chuffing up that grade from about 1/2 mile away.

  • @michaelmckenzie9542
    @michaelmckenzie9542 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Needs a cab forward.What they were designed for,donner pass and all the tunnels

  • @DdD-pi8jw
    @DdD-pi8jw 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    COAL BABY!! COAL!!!!!

  • @johnathanfuell6820
    @johnathanfuell6820 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love the BigBoy...
    But it JUST DOESN'T BELONG on Donner Pass. That route belongs to the queen of eSPee steam, AC-12 4294. If only the CSRM would even CONSIDER letting someone restore her to operation 😕

    • @CaidRailfannerGuy
      @CaidRailfannerGuy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@johnathanfuell6820 Restoration of 4294 would be impossible. Too much money to rebuild and operate that CSRM doesn’t have.

    • @benjisterchi5195
      @benjisterchi5195 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CaidRailfannerGuy that’s BS

    • @CaidRailfannerGuy
      @CaidRailfannerGuy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@benjisterchi5195 I agree, however much funding CSRM needs they should get because 4294 is a beast that deserves to show her power

  • @russellevans2446
    @russellevans2446 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Why would you purposely subject your pet to that? People have no situational awareness. 😢 I promise, your dog doesn't think that's "cool".

  • @michaelinhouston9086
    @michaelinhouston9086 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Well done

  • @katiejo1095
    @katiejo1095 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Beautiful ❤

  • @johnmagnusson7545
    @johnmagnusson7545 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    People are supposed to stand 25 feet away from the track Always

    • @CaidRailfannerGuy
      @CaidRailfannerGuy  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      people still insist to stand closer, even sometimes in the track gauge.

    • @benjisterchi5195
      @benjisterchi5195 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CaidRailfannerGuy do you work for UP?

    • @CaidRailfannerGuy
      @CaidRailfannerGuy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@benjisterchi5195 no, why

    • @DdD-pi8jw
      @DdD-pi8jw 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ok Karen

  • @barrysheridan9186
    @barrysheridan9186 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Impressive.

  • @colingymer
    @colingymer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Looks as if some folks have difficulty understanding what 25ft away from the track means!

    • @CaidRailfannerGuy
      @CaidRailfannerGuy  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yup, some people are not very good at eyeballing.

    • @DdD-pi8jw
      @DdD-pi8jw 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I guess that’s up to them, right Karen??

  • @hunterwolfscar2287
    @hunterwolfscar2287 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wow.

  • @PercyPruneMHDOIFandBars
    @PercyPruneMHDOIFandBars 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Some of the earlier cars of the train appear to have people's names on. I'm curious. Are they sponsors or historical figures within US railways?

    • @CaidRailfannerGuy
      @CaidRailfannerGuy  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@PercyPruneMHDOIFandBars Art Lockman and Lynn Nystrom were crew for UP Steam and Howard Fogg was an painter who specialized in railway art. He was hired as ALCOs company artist.

    • @PercyPruneMHDOIFandBars
      @PercyPruneMHDOIFandBars 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @CaidRaifannerGuy: Thanks! What a cool way to commemorate someone! 😊

  • @socialite1283
    @socialite1283 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not convinced that burning oil that inefficiently - producing smoke THAT black - produces the most heat out of the oil. Just suggests to me that it's not drawing enough air for the size of the flame.

    • @HankAmericanEngine
      @HankAmericanEngine 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That may also be sand being sucked through to clean the flue tubes in the boiler.

    • @robertheinkel6225
      @robertheinkel6225 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sometimes it is done for a photo op.

    • @benjisterchi5195
      @benjisterchi5195 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How long have you been an engineer?

    • @socialite1283
      @socialite1283 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@benjisterchi5195 Nothing to do with engineering. This is chemistry.

    • @robertheinkel6225
      @robertheinkel6225 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mostly because the photographers love the shot.

  • @kevinbreaker2683
    @kevinbreaker2683 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4014❤🚂🎶✨️✨️

  • @graysonedwards8875
    @graysonedwards8875 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Is there a CHALLENGER that's still operational?

    • @CaidRailfannerGuy
      @CaidRailfannerGuy  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@graysonedwards8875 Sadly, no. Only 2 Challengers survived, one of which is undergoing restoration at RRHMA in Silvis, Illinois.

    • @graysonedwards8875
      @graysonedwards8875 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CaidRailfannerGuy TY

    • @Scagguy4014
      @Scagguy4014 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      it will be

    • @artiek1177
      @artiek1177 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@CaidRailfannerGuyThat’s UP 3985.

  • @ScottKew-g8r
    @ScottKew-g8r 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wonder what the final $$$$ tag was on the rebulld of this locomotive, including all the transportation back to the rebuild shops was?

    • @CaidRailfannerGuy
      @CaidRailfannerGuy  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ScottKew-g8r Nobody really knows, but its estimated around $4 million

    • @railroad9000
      @railroad9000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@CaidRailfannerGuy Well worth the cost!!!!

    • @michaelmckenzie9542
      @michaelmckenzie9542 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Up is to be commended for spending money on their heritage!

    • @michaelmckenzie9542
      @michaelmckenzie9542 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s all me have, what we leave behind

    • @railroad9000
      @railroad9000 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@michaelmckenzie9542 Absolutely correct!

  • @Knitting_n_Trucking
    @Knitting_n_Trucking 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you are on the rocks, you’re to close!

  • @davidbhinckley
    @davidbhinckley 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    By all means bring your pet to this event 🙉

    • @mrgone658
      @mrgone658 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      🤨

  • @jacobhelmickjacobhelmick
    @jacobhelmickjacobhelmick หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Jacob is helmick is union Pacific 4014 steam crew is 25 is feet back safety awarD

  • @justaperson8560
    @justaperson8560 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Some one please fix the whistle I wanna hear it how it’s supposed to be

    • @MikeM-uz4yb
      @MikeM-uz4yb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The steam whistle is bit lower in tone than usual (as it could be dirty from use), but otherwise normal sounding.

    • @b3j8
      @b3j8 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sounds fine to me. Maybe a tad lower pitch, but still sharp.

  • @LymanSheba
    @LymanSheba 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Why is there a diesel engine embedded in the train group?

    • @CaidRailfannerGuy
      @CaidRailfannerGuy  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It powers the coaches and helps 4014 up the grade.

    • @haroldwilkerson2026
      @haroldwilkerson2026 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@CaidRailfannerGuyI never thought of the normal engine powering the cars for their heat and electricity I thought they were self-powered or had generators

    • @erisdiscordia1649
      @erisdiscordia1649 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That diesel is at idle, ready for dynamic braking on the slide down Donner Pass.

    • @CaidRailfannerGuy
      @CaidRailfannerGuy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@erisdiscordia1649 At the Emmigrants Gap clip, the diesel sounds are way different than while idle. Plus, there wouldn’t be that much smoke while idle.

    • @artiek1177
      @artiek1177 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ed once says that they use the diesel for power on occasion to reduce the wear and tear on 4014. Also, they use the diesel for dynamic breaking as the brake shoes are so expensive (bring they’re custom made).

  • @infaredxkingz8786
    @infaredxkingz8786 หลายเดือนก่อน

    there's people who doesn't have enough information about 4014, because they keep Calling him a girl

    • @robertheinkel6225
      @robertheinkel6225 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Men tend to call their vehicles female names, while women tend to call their vehicles male names. So most guys will affectionately call 4014 a her.

  • @deerhuntersteve9559
    @deerhuntersteve9559 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Leave your comments/explanations on the screen longer. Post is too fast to read.

    • @CaidRailfannerGuy
      @CaidRailfannerGuy  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@deerhuntersteve9559 pause it bruh

    • @russellevans2446
      @russellevans2446 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@CaidRailfannerGuy by the time I move my hand to pause it, the caption was already gone. So we need to stop, rewind, pause to read, then play. Would it hurt you to leave them up 10 more seconds??

    • @CaidRailfannerGuy
      @CaidRailfannerGuy  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@russellevans2446 only some people want to read them.

  • @ryandunham1047
    @ryandunham1047 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    25 feet or more, people, for God’s sake! 🤦‍♂️

    • @DdD-pi8jw
      @DdD-pi8jw 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Shut up!! Good god!! Karens abound !

  • @kimnielsen3111
    @kimnielsen3111 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why do bigboy have a diesel loco after again...i thought they stopped driving with a diesel helper

    • @erisdiscordia1649
      @erisdiscordia1649 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They did, and I believe they still intend to, but Donner Pass is mountainous, so they got the diesel for dynamic braking.

    • @ryantaylor1820
      @ryantaylor1820 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Braking

  • @michaelmckenzie5232
    @michaelmckenzie5232 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No was southern pacific only

    • @CaidRailfannerGuy
      @CaidRailfannerGuy  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@michaelmckenzie5232 UP merged with SP in 1996, inheriting all trackage and equipment.

    • @michaelmckenzie5232
      @michaelmckenzie5232 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CaidRailfannerGuy yeah knew that, but big boy never ran that donner pass route was exclusive to SP.grew up 1 mile from the Phoenix to Roll sun.Still live within 5 miles of it.Before the Amtrak derailment

    • @michaelmckenzie5232
      @michaelmckenzie5232 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That was one busy sun in the day

  • @Blake4625kHz
    @Blake4625kHz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I heard the diesel helps out too much.

    • @CaidRailfannerGuy
      @CaidRailfannerGuy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Blake4625kHz Yes. The diesel is used to provide extra braking power die to 4014s weak brakes.

    • @Blake4625kHz
      @Blake4625kHz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CaidRailfannerGuy i heard the diesel helps out pulling

    • @michaelmckenzie9542
      @michaelmckenzie9542 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Blake4625kHz FRA rules.4014 has friction brakes no longer allowed.Diesel has dynamic brakes per current rules.also supplies electric power for the cars.No power to propel train just dead weight.Big Boy doing all the work!

  • @kempmt1
    @kempmt1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is she still chugging coal or is she running on an alternate fuel source?

    • @CaidRailfannerGuy
      @CaidRailfannerGuy  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They converted her to burning oil due to her sister engine, 3985, setting so many track fires during her time burning coal.

  • @BennyCFD
    @BennyCFD 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You ever notice that Big Boy 4014 always needs a diesel electric locomotive for it to move. Can't it operate by it's self.

    • @CaidRailfannerGuy
      @CaidRailfannerGuy  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      4014 infact does not need a diesel to operate, it was equipped with PTC a few weeks ago, which complies with FRA standards. The only reason they are using a diesel is to power the coaches and help 4014 up the grade.

    • @gaborgredely1848
      @gaborgredely1848 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      A vontatott szerelvény enegia igényét elégiti ki. Gondolom van konyha, étkező kocsi. Légondicionállás, esetleg fűtési igény. Nálunk is ha egy régi gőzmozdony vontat, akkor a szerelvény végén egy vészhelyzeti diesel van. Köszi a feltöltést, gyönyörű a táj!! ❤❤❤🎉

    • @danielhandler6646
      @danielhandler6646 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@CaidRailfannerGuythat diesel locomotive does not power the coaches. A separate generator car does that. That diesel locomotive rarely helps on hills, it's only to extend fuel or water mileage when absolutely necessary. It does provide more load in the steam engine by operating with dynamic brakes activated, and it uses its dynamic brakes on hills to prevent excessive brake shoe wear on the steam engine and passenger cars.

    • @up844productions8
      @up844productions8 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In certain places in the video you can hear that SD70 in high notches pulling amps helping ​@@danielhandler6646

    • @bcbloc02
      @bcbloc02 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      4014 is over 80 years old. Most 80 year olds are glad to have a little extra help getting around.😅

  • @quagmiredavis4117
    @quagmiredavis4117 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I thought nanny diesel was gone ,, due to some modifications on big boy .. was this bullshit as usual ... big boy ran for years without a nanny 😊

    • @CaidRailfannerGuy
      @CaidRailfannerGuy  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@quagmiredavis4117 The diesel powers the coaches and helps Big Boy up the grade.

    • @henryw4129
      @henryw4129 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@CaidRailfannerGuy The 4014 Big Boy ran a few times recently without any diesel in the consist.
      St.

    • @eva.cassidy
      @eva.cassidy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@CaidRailfannerGuy Actually it provides dynamic breaking and helps on steeper grades, like it was doing in the mountains where you can see the 4014 and 1983 both smoking getting up the hill. There's a generator car that powers the coaches.

    • @CaidRailfannerGuy
      @CaidRailfannerGuy  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@eva.cassidy Ah, thanks for the info!

    • @benjisterchi5195
      @benjisterchi5195 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Why don’t you ask a more intelligent question, like how much do you think brake pads cost for 4014? Also they are not available at your local NAPA auto parts store.