This run perfectly illustrates why ill never understand the game completely nuking harvesting in endless, i would understand ending the natural scaling, but to completely void an item and an entire character in endless just seems like vad mechanics to me
The only reasonable way I could see is that it's just too strong otherwise. There was a time where you'd only take harvesting when endless didn't exist, since it increases on its own while giving material AND experience. So now imagine it no longer receives a -20%, you still want to focus on it. Enemies are capped by spawn, but Harvesting is endless. Like let's say max amount of enemies lead to 7k material per wave with bonus items. You're at 5k Harvesting. You buy and take every Harvesting bonus and 10 waves later you're at 7k, 8k, whatever it is it exceeds all other moneymakers
@@DexTagThe reason it would be such a strong moneymaker is the scaling. No other sources of extra income will ever trump harvesting in a vacuum. Unfortunate because there's fun to be had seeing large numbers of money come in
I just started a run with the farmer so I could complete the 3000 material quest. In wave 19 I got the dex-troyer and in wave 22 I found the axolotle... with 2600 harvesting... it decided to swap that with my armor... I am now imortal!
Ok Dex. I was using your weapon for the first time today on an endless run. Had to pause the game and came back to all my progress wiped. My whole game gone like I’ve never played it before. Your weapon is so powerful it wiped all my data on my XBox. I’m joking. It’s a known issue they are working with Microsoft to resolve it. Just wanted to say love the vids and I think they’re pretty funny.
Okay, you can't tell me at 3:07 that you didn't subtly have a heart attack when that attack was going off. You were running INTO that strike as it was going off JUST as the wave ended. Literally just .3 seconds more and that was gg.
someone already beat me to it was about to say dex you hit a jackpot frame by frame it was on top of you if the timer was just had 1 more second you were cooked
I think they should change harvesting to give less material and XP per Wave after 20, so it gives less but the number stays, can be increased (so for example each wave after 20 it goes down by 10% until wave 30 where it gives 0% XP and Material). So weapon which scale off harvesting can be used for endless.
I feel like your +% harvesting should still trigger after wave 20 so if you're playing the farmer in endless with a cursed crown you could still get a few +% of harvesting and not lose your whole character :D
Tbh i think that the dev could add a mode to do custom runs, like you can banish up to 20 items from showing up and you just play normally, it can even disable achievements just for balance sake
I was recognized twice by my laugh but I turn a bit weird since it's nothing I like to talk about and at least in the 2 experiences, they just looked at me as if I am the one who started to talk, expecting to say something. Like I have no problem with social interactions, but even online when I game I'm not a fan of someone recognizing me, which happens surprisingly often
@@DexTagI was a moderate for a channel and never spoke on the channel ever and somehow some kids knew I was a moderate for said channel it was very weird.
Dex I think focusing harvesting on this character is a bit of a trap. This seems to be a luck character if you ask me. Dig for good items with luck and use fruits to go nuts on harvesting. Love the vids!!
But the extra damage from the fish may bump your damage above the health of the little ones, making it easier to clean them out from the packs in one swoop.
Dex, because you took the healing over time and the time stops at the end of a wave, you won't heal and/or collect the stats from the fruits if your not at full hp at that moment. Try a run without the Jerky and you will heal + collect the bonus stats at the end of the wave.
i just ended my run with lucky which i started when you released your video on it i got to wave 115 without pearls and it was pretty painful also from wave 100+ on the grenade launcher outdamaged the nuclear lauchner something to consider for your long runs (90.000.000.000 dmg vs 35.000.000.000 dmg) maybe because its firerate better matched the fps or sth + i instantly lost when i changed the snipergun for another grenade launcher even tho the snipergun only did 20.000.000.000 dmg in the previous rounds so it might be better than its numbers make you believe
There's a new survivor game in playtesting phase called Deadly Days: Roadtrip and its fromt he people who created deadly days, it's a very interesting game.
maybe make it so harvest stops decaying instead? I recall there being a mod for that. Or if possible, letting harvesting modifiers apply to the -20% harvesting per wave, so it would be -17% with farmer's +3%, and with a maximum cursed crown and farmer, 0% change.
I do think that this run suffered a lot from not having enough range. I try to keep my melee weapons at like 200-300 range; anything less than 150 makes it really difficult to clear hordes, because you only hit the front row or two of the enemies.
I think 150 is fine with some random pickups, but 125 really really hurt, or rather that it was even at 115. I mean don't get me wrong, I also feel a lot more comfortable at 200-250, though usually the attack speed is high enough that I can deal with Hordes, but the real threat are bosses
It's a douvle edged sword, it gives you instantly +3 and healing over time can be insanely helpful to store up fruits when burst is expected, but in the longrun it will always be worse. So it depends what the goal is, for wave 20 it's most times good if found early
Its so sad harvesting goes to 0 after wave 20. It should just stop scaling or just with 1/4 or smt like this. I mean there is a druid with flute and pearls which scales infinite
That’s pretty dumb that harvesting reduces by 20% every wave after wave 20, it basically means if you ever wanna go endless, you should ignore harvesting all together. If their goal is to just make endless harder so you can’t survive as long, then why wouldn’t they reduce all your stats every wave? Why just harvesting? If they just switched to stop increasing after wave 20 I feel like that’d be way more balanced. Or even just decrease it by 1% or something, that way you can’t build infinite harvesting, but idk why it would matter if you could cause you can build other stats to infinity.
yoo bro you have to try to curse the Piggy bank and get mirror on it and don't And never spend your money yeah Imagine the amount of money you will get ahahaha😂😂
Protip: If Dex says "I need armor", he will never, under any circumstances, actually get armor :D
It's more like a "I told you so" moment :p
Don't you mean Arrmoouure 😂
Ah yes the Euroupean spelling sry.
I like how he says armourre tho!
We need a video titled "dex needs armor" where he take every armor item he sees, regardless of what he needs at the time.
@@cyruslastiwka2390 Max armor run! Then of course at the end, switch it out with axolotl!
This run perfectly illustrates why ill never understand the game completely nuking harvesting in endless, i would understand ending the natural scaling, but to completely void an item and an entire character in endless just seems like vad mechanics to me
The only reasonable way I could see is that it's just too strong otherwise. There was a time where you'd only take harvesting when endless didn't exist, since it increases on its own while giving material AND experience. So now imagine it no longer receives a -20%, you still want to focus on it. Enemies are capped by spawn, but Harvesting is endless.
Like let's say max amount of enemies lead to 7k material per wave with bonus items. You're at 5k Harvesting. You buy and take every Harvesting bonus and 10 waves later you're at 7k, 8k, whatever it is it exceeds all other moneymakers
@@DexTagThe reason it would be such a strong moneymaker is the scaling. No other sources of extra income will ever trump harvesting in a vacuum. Unfortunate because there's fun to be had seeing large numbers of money come in
I just started a run with the farmer so I could complete the 3000 material quest. In wave 19 I got the dex-troyer and in wave 22 I found the axolotle... with 2600 harvesting... it decided to swap that with my armor... I am now imortal!
Ok Dex. I was using your weapon for the first time today on an endless run. Had to pause the game and came back to all my progress wiped. My whole game gone like I’ve never played it before. Your weapon is so powerful it wiped all my data on my XBox. I’m joking. It’s a known issue they are working with Microsoft to resolve it. Just wanted to say love the vids and I think they’re pretty funny.
Someone really needs to make a mod that allows you to sell items too not just weapons
there is one i believe! although i'm not sure if it works on the newest version
Nice video, i'd love to see a blunderbuss build next!
Always a good day when Dex posts a video
Okay, you can't tell me at 3:07 that you didn't subtly have a heart attack when that attack was going off. You were running INTO that strike as it was going off JUST as the wave ended. Literally just .3 seconds more and that was gg.
someone already beat me to it was about to say dex you hit a jackpot frame by frame it was on top of you if the timer was just had 1 more second you were cooked
Dex: We want lots of cursed gardens
His PC: 🫠😭💀
Hey Dex. Mutant (levels up with 66% less xp) + Quarterstaff (boosts xp gain, damage scales with character level) is fun and worth a run.
@@FuelDropforthewin It is! however he already made a video on that i believe.
Ogre with ethereal axes gets nutty. Just leaving this here
If you want a really good combo with the sickle, you can also try it with the Entrepreneur I tried it and It was so gottverdammt geil
Dex: That was abysmal!
Me, an Intelectual: I think you meant... Abyssal.
Yes there is a mod that removes the Harvesting Nerve for Endless, and i would appreciate this run :)
dex on every single run: GARDENS
I think they should change harvesting to give less material and XP per Wave after 20, so it gives less but the number stays, can be increased (so for example each wave after 20 it goes down by 10% until wave 30 where it gives 0% XP and Material). So weapon which scale off harvesting can be used for endless.
I feel like your +% harvesting should still trigger after wave 20 so if you're playing the farmer in endless with a cursed crown you could still get a few +% of harvesting and not lose your whole character :D
Tbh i think that the dev could add a mode to do custom runs, like you can banish up to 20 items from showing up and you just play normally, it can even disable achievements just for balance sake
Sickles on entrepreneur is even more crazy I feel
Ay Dex, have you been recogniced in puplic yet? If not, will you Update us once you do?
I was recognized twice by my laugh but I turn a bit weird since it's nothing I like to talk about and at least in the 2 experiences, they just looked at me as if I am the one who started to talk, expecting to say something. Like I have no problem with social interactions, but even online when I game I'm not a fan of someone recognizing me, which happens surprisingly often
@@DexTagI was a moderate for a channel and never spoke on the channel ever and somehow some kids knew I was a moderate for said channel it was very weird.
@@DexTag Lustig, hast Mich einfach "geratioed" or whatever that is spelled.
5:02 5:04 5:09 5:10 5:10 5:10 5:10 5:11 5:11 5:11 5:11 5:11 5:11 5:11 5:12 5:12 5:12 5:12 5:12 5:12 5:13 5:13 5:13 5:13 5:13 5:13 5:14 5:14
imagine harvesting neither declining nor growing by itself past wave 20
Dex I think focusing harvesting on this character is a bit of a trap. This seems to be a luck character if you ask me. Dig for good items with luck and use fruits to go nuts on harvesting. Love the vids!!
Late game runs with harvesting characters really require a well time axolotl to swap harvesting for a crazy amount of a flat damage stack
But the extra damage from the fish may bump your damage above the health of the little ones, making it easier to clean them out from the packs in one swoop.
For me, lute is my favorite new weapon in this patch, next are javelin and icicle.
I recommend you to try curse lute. It's really great!
7:00 and some of those episodes is Dex letting his inner german run wild 😂
This build looks like kind of a nightmare due to the range issue, definitely need added range and not less 😄
pulling an axolotl late game with high harvesting is a blessing ngl
Dex, because you took the healing over time and the time stops at the end of a wave, you won't heal and/or collect the stats from the fruits if your not at full hp at that moment. Try a run without the Jerky and you will heal + collect the bonus stats at the end of the wave.
Great video made me fall asleep
i just ended my run with lucky which i started when you released your video on it
i got to wave 115 without pearls
and it was pretty painful
also from wave 100+ on the grenade launcher outdamaged the nuclear lauchner something to consider for your long runs (90.000.000.000 dmg vs 35.000.000.000 dmg)
maybe because its firerate better matched the fps or sth
+ i instantly lost when i changed the snipergun for another grenade launcher even tho the snipergun only did 20.000.000.000 dmg in the previous rounds
so it might be better than its numbers make you believe
thematically fitting weapon
There's a new survivor game in playtesting phase called Deadly Days: Roadtrip and its fromt he people who created deadly days, it's a very interesting game.
restarted my progress removed dlc went for smgs wave 8 dex-stroyer
ya
with WELL under 100 luck
After watching this I tried scythes on entrepreneur, it was insane
maybe make it so harvest stops decaying instead? I recall there being a mod for that. Or if possible, letting harvesting modifiers apply to the -20% harvesting per wave, so it would be -17% with farmer's +3%, and with a maximum cursed crown and farmer, 0% change.
Challenge for you: Add 3 afk players as "Greis" to get a really tiny map und win the run
When will the DLC drop on console?
It’s been out for like 2 weeks for me on Xbox.
@MarkT-ChildofGod oh? I will look into this more.
What does harvesting actually do? I've never been able to figure out what the benefit was
I love brotato ❤
Hey I was wondering, the thingy in the bottom left, I guess it gives the damage of weapons right ? Is it a mod or a new feature ?
It's a mod. He mentioned it in the last video.
@sunnysmiles6955 thanks
You should try generalist+harpoon gun
then that's why you get multiple fish so you can one shot them 😅
something tells me gmo with farmer + glutton + druid would be incredibly broken
I do think that this run suffered a lot from not having enough range. I try to keep my melee weapons at like 200-300 range; anything less than 150 makes it really difficult to clear hordes, because you only hit the front row or two of the enemies.
I think 150 is fine with some random pickups, but 125 really really hurt, or rather that it was even at 115. I mean don't get me wrong, I also feel a lot more comfortable at 200-250, though usually the attack speed is high enough that I can deal with Hordes, but the real threat are bosses
@DexTag I'm definitely not good enough at the game to make 150 work reliably, lol.
video idea: Apprentice, smg, nail, heart, book
Video idea: just get a bunch of purple items
I must've missed something, why do you lose harvesting after wave 20??
That's just how it always was, the moment you go endless it gets reduced by 20%
300 damage on wave 20 with the sickles. very unlucky run.
please sire, the peasants are revolting
they demand a bull video
Jerky seems awful for anyone that has a "pick up while full" effect.
It's a douvle edged sword, it gives you instantly +3 and healing over time can be insanely helpful to store up fruits when burst is expected, but in the longrun it will always be worse. So it depends what the goal is, for wave 20 it's most times good if found early
Its so sad harvesting goes to 0 after wave 20. It should just stop scaling or just with 1/4 or smt like this. I mean there is a druid with flute and pearls which scales infinite
Agreed, it should just stop scaling, or only scale down to a lower limit. There are a couple infinite scaling options in the game anyway
That’s pretty dumb that harvesting reduces by 20% every wave after wave 20, it basically means if you ever wanna go endless, you should ignore harvesting all together. If their goal is to just make endless harder so you can’t survive as long, then why wouldn’t they reduce all your stats every wave? Why just harvesting? If they just switched to stop increasing after wave 20 I feel like that’d be way more balanced. Or even just decrease it by 1% or something, that way you can’t build infinite harvesting, but idk why it would matter if you could cause you can build other stats to infinity.
Because infinite harvesting is stupidly fucking broken
Four minutes, damn
Damn you i have a test tomarow i need to study not watchh dex
How to chNge monster graphic i just purchase dlc
Why don’t you take the fish? It’s 10% of your final damage number.
can we see all mods ur using?
Weapon damage display
Hi
17:29 which elites aren’t anti melee? 😂
Giant, Worm, Jellyfish, Megalodon to an extend, Prisoner, Spider Crab. So pretty much the rest.
yoo bro you have to try to curse the Piggy bank and get mirror on it and don't And never spend your money yeah Imagine the amount of money you will get ahahaha😂😂
Can't mirror a unique
@notbob555 ah ok thanks I don't know that 🤣
Can’t mirror a unique but cursed piggy bank does go crazy