Metroid Prime 2 - 20th Anniversary Interview With Kynan Pearson (Designer On Prime 2)

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  • @KIWITALKZ
    @KIWITALKZ  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    FUN FACT: Kynan's microphone literally died the day before we did this so he had to use his computer mic, what timing huh?
    TIMESTAMPS
    00:00 - Intro
    00:50 - How Metroid Prime 2 Ended Up With Its Zelda Esque Design
    03:00 - Every Nintendo Game Is It’s Own Thing/Link To The Past Discussions
    04:00 - Designing Prime 2’s Biomes/Dark World Was Originally Silhouetted
    05:50 - How The Designers Decided What To Put In A Room/Morph Ball Puzzles
    09:50 - Boost Balling Off Spider Ball Tracks
    12:30 - Reserving Pickups For Player Testing Outcome
    13:30 - Design Is About Perception
    17:00 - Coming Up With Prime 2’s Unique Upgrades/
    21:50 - Working On The Boss Rooms
    23:50 - Deciding How Big To Make A Boss Room
    27:16 - Limitations Fosters Creativity
    29:30 - SPD & Retro’s Collaboration On The Prime Games
    32:57 - VR Will Never Be Mainstream Due To Motion Sickness
    34:30 - How Speed Booster Would Work In First Person
    35:54 - How They Figured Out How To Do Screw Attack/Metroid Is For Hardcore Gamers
    38:00 - What QOL Changes Should Be In Metroid Prime 2 Remastered
    40:50 - Kynan Doesn’t Like Prime 2’s Key Hunt
    42:30 - Kynan’s Favourite Boss
    43:35 - Kynan’s Favourite Item Upgrade
    44:32 - Kynans Favourite Area/Biome
    46:30 - Kynan’s Favourite Puzzle
    48:02 - Kynan’s Favourite Room
    49:16 - Q + A - Biggest Missed Opportunity In Prime 2
    53:16 - Q + A - Why The Dark Luminoth Was Cut
    55: 03- Q + A - Most Difficult Puzzle
    1:00:37 - Wall Jump Design
    1:01:07 - Q + A - What Would Be Included If Prime 2 Was Made Today
    1:03:55 - Prime 2’s Amazing Team/ Jack Mathews Funny Story
    1:08:43 - Final Thoughts

    • @GigasAhriman
      @GigasAhriman 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I know I'm a grown ass adult, but I'm 100% fanboying right now because this is my most favorite game in my entire life. Kynan is essentially God at this point. Like holy shit, this is the coolest vid I've ever seen

  • @kadosho02
    @kadosho02 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    Prime 2 was a marvelous game on the GameCube. I remember sitting down with my grandma, and playing both Prime 1&2 with her. She loved exploring, I took care of the bosses. We took turns reading lore entries.
    And the music, you just get lost in that energy.
    So many fun memories

    • @madorkas5400
      @madorkas5400 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      i love this story :)

  • @Akimbo711
    @Akimbo711 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    Prime 2 had some of the most beautiful design and incredible music - loved the Quadraxis boss fight

    • @novamous777
      @novamous777 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Best boss fight in the series imo

    • @nuclearbeeberman
      @nuclearbeeberman หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I will never understand why most fans think prime 2 was worse than prime 1. For me it's on the same level

    • @av3nger3
      @av3nger3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@nuclearbeeberman Prime 2 was shockingly good for a sequel, and Sanctuary Fortress was a glorious delight

    • @villeneaux5877
      @villeneaux5877 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Quadraxis is to this day one of the best boss fights I experienced. It's really iconic.

  • @SirCalalot
    @SirCalalot หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Wake up babe, Kiwi is chatting to Metroid alumni again.
    Great interview as always and an incredibly inspirational chat for us game developers!

  • @Nigel222
    @Nigel222 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Looking forward to this. Prime 2 was the first Prime game I actually played back in the day. The Temple Grounds area always sticks in my mind as a very atmospheric area.

    • @Doran.
      @Doran. หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Same here! When I was 11 years old or so, I tried out Prime 1 at a friends house, thought it was cool, and then went to GameStop and accidentally bought Echoes! 😂😅 I didn’t even realize until I was well into the game. Echoes was so difficult for me, took 3-4 attempts at every boss encounter, but hey 🤷‍♂️ it got me hooked on Metroid for the rest of my life, so no regrets.
      I went back afterwards and played Prime 1. It was a total cakewalk for me haha

    • @Xdidx777
      @Xdidx777 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Heck yeah me too. My homie had a demo of it an I watched him play an thought it was dope but forgot about it. Fast forward my other homie had the official😂 so I got it an have been a fan since! Prime 2 was my first metroid anything an I love the Metroid formula. Hope prime 2 and 3 get remastered fr

  • @ezralaguna
    @ezralaguna หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Prime 2 is the best in trilogy imo. Super overlooked.

    • @av3nger3
      @av3nger3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have amazing memories of Metroid Prime 1, but extremely fond ones of Metroid Prime 2 as well. It helps Metroid Prime 2 that it also released in a platinum year for games.

  • @Manoffire97
    @Manoffire97 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Prime 2 is the first Metroid game I played when I was about 10 years old and it absolutely blew me away. Probably my favorite game still to this day. It left such a big impression on me

    • @courdell7426
      @courdell7426 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exact same story here but at 7

  • @MasterZoda
    @MasterZoda หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Fantastic interview. Prime 2 has always been my favorite Metroid game of all time, so it's so cool to see it being discussed at great length and given the love it truly deserves.

  • @theforgehermit9791
    @theforgehermit9791 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Man that original dark beam sounded fantastic. Missed opportunity to combine it with the seeker missile to freeze multiple enemies simultaneously then use seeker missile to shatter them simultaneously.

  • @Doran.
    @Doran. หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Oh you asked my Q about the difficult puzzles to create! 55:03 Thanks :)
    Very interesting details. Thanks to Kynan Pearson for taking the time to talk about his work!

  • @DGFTardin
    @DGFTardin หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I've been play Metroid Prime Remastered and it pains me that I can't follow it up with Metroid Prime 2 Remastered

  • @galaxiid_
    @galaxiid_ หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    My first Metroid Game. A stunning achievement given the time and resources involved.

  • @eliroybal2344
    @eliroybal2344 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is a fascinating interview and I’m glad I found it
    Love Prime 2 to bits and am currently replaying it coincidentally
    The first time I played this game I noticed how many more morph ball puzzles there are in the game and figured there had to have been one dev in particular that just loved the morph ball
    ‘Morph Ball Dev does it again!’
    This is him! I’ve found the Morph Ball Dev!

    • @eliroybal2344
      @eliroybal2344 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I loved hearing them talk about how and why the scope of the game changed in Prime 2 and how they rewarded common player behavior to make it more fun as well as making the Majora’s Mask comparison that I’ve made myself, it was very satisfying
      So was getting an explanation behind the original control scheme- it was very insightful

  • @protocetid
    @protocetid 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You asked Kynan Pearson great questions! The community questions were what I was most looking forward to, I thought the rest of the video wouldn't hold my attention as much as the end did. IIRC, in the older videos that I watched, you tended to ask things that were kind of boring.

  • @lacrodectus2139
    @lacrodectus2139 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    44:14 by the way this visual is actually wrong, he's talking about the charged dark beam, not the darkburst

  • @theblowupdollsmusic
    @theblowupdollsmusic หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thank you for sharing this great interview. The development team of the prime trilogy are just on another level.

  • @Dr.Alligator
    @Dr.Alligator หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Let’s go!

  • @nuclearbeeberman
    @nuclearbeeberman หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    great interview once more. thanks a lot !

  • @PresidentEvil2
    @PresidentEvil2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Prime 2 is a defining game for me

  • @Zeal543
    @Zeal543 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Love Prime 2, awesome vid and dev

  • @venomasmark14
    @venomasmark14 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    HAPPY 20 YEARS, PRIME 2, HERE'S TO HOPING FOR A REMASTER

  • @militantpacifist4087
    @militantpacifist4087 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Nintendo should already release Metroid Prime 2: Echoes and Metroid Prime 3: Corruption on the Switch. Same with Zelda Twilight Princess HD and Zelda The Wind Waker HD.

  • @liraco_mx
    @liraco_mx หลายเดือนก่อน

    27:13 I always thought of Jumping Flash (PS1) when I jumped around in Metroid Prime. So it wasn't a coincidence! Great conversation.

  • @TehSenate
    @TehSenate หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Hopefully someone out there has a picture of Jason's Outback with Jack's butt indent lol

    • @KIWITALKZ
      @KIWITALKZ  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      LMAO! The new owner could make some money putting it on Ebay

  • @brown_recluse_human3458
    @brown_recluse_human3458 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I miss how old games looked and were made. The technology limitations & differences in hardware architecture and graphics pipelines, as well as custom tools, meant games looked different. Now everything's UE5.

    • @Leee275
      @Leee275 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Prime 4 is using the same engine as the main trilogy.

    • @protocetid
      @protocetid 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      UE5 offers a lot more visual and gameplay flexibility than the engines of the past. I agree that it shouldn't be relied upon too heavily, and it risks giving Epic too much control over the game market.

  • @jasonblack1705
    @jasonblack1705 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the 2D and Prime games and my favorite of them all is MP2. So dark and beautiful and difficult.

  • @ivohiemstra6839
    @ivohiemstra6839 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    51:30 Well now I'm not so sure about the metroid prime 2 remastered anymore unfortunetly :(

  • @iratepirate3896
    @iratepirate3896 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Still my favourite game in the franchise, and onew of my favourite games of all time.

  • @Twisted_Logic
    @Twisted_Logic หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think the only change I'd make to the key hunt in Prime 2 is make the Flying Ing Chaches always spawn and be vulnerable to the light beam or something when you don't have the dark visor on. That way players who already know where they are can start collecting them earlier like the Chozo Artifacts in Prime 1.
    Also: Kynan clearly has excellent taste in bosses and environments.

  • @shaneklippert2942
    @shaneklippert2942 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Metroid prime 2 probably has some of the best atmosphere of all three games

  • @platinumuschannel
    @platinumuschannel หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where Prime 2 messed up on the artifact keys was by not allowing you to nab Sky Temple keys early. Flashback to 2004, I just acquired the Dark Visor and I was in some room, I believe underwater, and I remember messing around with the Dark Visor and seeing a red outline of the Ing Cache that protected the key. I remember thinking WTF is that!
    I really think part of the frustration can be erased by allowing you to collect them once you get the Dark Visor. At least the replay will be a little more smooth sailing for most.

  • @Oni64
    @Oni64 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @davidsterling7570
    @davidsterling7570 หลายเดือนก่อน

    44:20 He's just talking about the standard charged Dark Beam, not the beam combo :)

  • @HappyLight.
    @HappyLight. หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love Prime 2

  • @nmoharo829
    @nmoharo829 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The answer about remasters being more expensive probably indicates that prime remastered was more an exercise to get the current Retro team to understand what made Prime, Prime.
    Could be easy to imagine that disappointed with how the first attempt went, Tanabe decided to boot camp and then released to buy more time for Prime 4 development

  • @x0j
    @x0j หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    u should talk to the prime hunters team, they're from redmond iirc and it's one of my favorite nintendo games

    • @courdell7426
      @courdell7426 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I never got to play Hunters but I'm right there with you. Recently i loved it because it's like a baby of metroid prime/prime 2

    • @x0j
      @x0j หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@courdell7426 yeah it's good shit, the online was awesome. I remember blasting the walls to talk to people

  • @metalsquid
    @metalsquid หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I loved Prime it was a fantastic transition to 3D but Prime 2 took it up yet another notch imo. I still haven't finished Prime 3 coz every time I try I struggle with the Wii control scheme plus I don't like that it became Samus & Friends. I inevitably lose interest and go back to the isolation and darkness and challenge of Prime 2 over and over again. Hoping for a Prime 2 Remastered shadow drop any day now. Come on Nintendo, it's that time once again to remember your Metroid franchise exists!

    • @Leee275
      @Leee275 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Try the Primehack version of Dolphin, it allows for Mouse and Keyboard.

    • @Doran.
      @Doran. หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      So true!!! The darkness of Echoes deserves a total shadow drop. Like an Ing warrior suddenly portalling into my living room.

  • @peanutbutterrocket
    @peanutbutterrocket หลายเดือนก่อน

    39:37 very inspirational

  • @av3nger3
    @av3nger3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    5:39 must have relegated this mechanic to the Dark and Echo visors.

  • @pepijnschermer5002
    @pepijnschermer5002 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wish they rerelease this game, l want to make an illustrated map of Metroid Prime 2 as well

  • @strikerslicer5010
    @strikerslicer5010 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Have any metroid ex devs had a reaction to the Metroid Prime 4 Beyond trailer?

    • @KIWITALKZ
      @KIWITALKZ  หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      The next interview next week they will give their reactions to Metroid Prime 4 Beyond

  • @sillkthashocker
    @sillkthashocker 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Damn. I just realized Metroid Prime 2 and Half-life 2 came out 1 day apart from each other.

  • @Oni64
    @Oni64 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mike Wikan Part 2 next?

    • @KIWITALKZ
      @KIWITALKZ  หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Mike Wikan is the most requested guest to have back on the show unfortunately (but awesome for him) he works for the federal government now and as a result he can no longer do media appearances.

    • @Oni64
      @Oni64 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KIWITALKZ wow never knew that

    • @dr4524
      @dr4524 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@KIWITALKZ Woah...hoped he was developing prime 4.

    • @AICW
      @AICW หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@Oni64 He's a contractor for Booz Allen Hamilton now. That's the same private intelligence corporation Edward Snowden was at when he published his NSA leaks 11 years ago.

  • @disturbedenvironmentalist2313
    @disturbedenvironmentalist2313 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    27:43 this is why Tears of the Kingdom was disappointing

  • @will_of_europa
    @will_of_europa หลายเดือนก่อน

    Prime 1 was a better game, but prime 2 was a great game regardless. What's not forgivable was how utter dogSHIT prime 3 was.

    • @rp-lopez
      @rp-lopez หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeah as much as I love the story and how they scaled up the galactic federation, the upgrades in that game were just really uninteresting to me, probably because of how much hyper mode nullified the need to use other weapons.

    • @Leee275
      @Leee275 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Holy crap bro I've been seeing you posting comments about how much you dislike Prime 3 for over 10 YEARS NOW, that's just insane. The first 2 games simply set an insanely high bar, Prime 3 still manages to be great in its own right. Retro had different plans in mind for the game but couldn't execute them due to the power of the time, considering the fatigue they had with that series at that point, what they made is still really impressive.
      Like seriously, Fusion despite being very different from Super is still great, the same applies with Corruption.
      What does this even have to do with the interview?

  • @ACrazedPerson
    @ACrazedPerson 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great editing. Glad to have the visuals alongside the art, design, and mechanic discussions.