Franklin armory , we love you in California. You are some of the few, strong enough and brave enough to stick up for our rights here in Ca. We really really need it. Thank you for what you do.
I don't care what anyone says-- just like I said last year, the Providence is a master stroke of genius. When Franklin says "foreign international markets," I say, "You mean like *California* ?" Because this gun is not a "semi automatic" by any legal definition. It is a *bolt action single shot* weapon-- but you simply in manipulate the bolt with your finger. Simple as pie, and now the fun starts... 9x19 super scary looking assaulty thingie *bolt action single shot* weapon. With a *"high capacity"* magazine (courtesy of Roger T. Benitez' Freedom Week) ... and what can Cali DOJ do? Nothing. Except provoke annnnnnother high profile court case. This thing is genius. It is the usual Franklin middle-finger sass to idiotic gun laws, but with a practical KelTec inspired purpose-driven creativity. It makes the recent dialing in of anti-gun dopes' arguments (re: fully semi-automatic) even more muddled and confused. Every time you pull the trigger, it shoots... yet it remains unloaded after the shot. Like a Bolt action, like a lever-gun. Is a lever-gun okay? Welll, what if I can work the lever with my finger? You sure? ....Here it is! "That's an assault weapon." 🤨 Anyone who doesn't grasp how sublime this is, might just be a wee bit spoiled, taking liberties for granted in the free states. In Arizona, a true gun state (for now), we are neighbors with California... and the monumental stupidity surrounding everything anti-2A there. You can go from Constitutional Carry to a felony and year-in-prison in the blink of a traffic light. It's not hard to appreciate the clever fuckery of this "magazine-fed single-shot bolt action PCC" in the context of California's illogical, irrational insanity... or for that matter, Virginia--- and mažybe your state soon, too. There is no way this firearm does not change the game legally, assuming a good lawyer... IF Franklin can make and sell them at a fair cost (and if not, then they owe it to America to license and/or allow similar actions to be copied and proliferated). Bring it to market, Franklin. Price it at $600-700 street and you have a winner. Price it like the Reformation, and you're over before it even starts. Take a short term loss for a long term, historical forward gain.
I can agree with your entire thought process on why this design is a good thing...totally in agreement. The one thing that will negate any of that positivity is the plus $1,000.00 price tag that would be likely to come from Franklin Armory.
@@EliAngwin you do realize Californian anti-gunners are also fleeing California and turning other states blue, right? Where you gonna go? Oregon? Virginia?
If anything I love Franklin Armory because they are like a lawyer railed a massive line of cocaine, found the most innovative designers, and set out with the sole purpose to skirt gun laws and take advantage of loopholes.
I noticed that 10-22 on the wall and I just kept hoping he was going to pull it down and say, BFSIII for the 10-22! Can't wait to get that baby and drop it in my SR-22 rifle!
Marc Pascual but they are dumb and free people are smart. I wonder who will win in the end. So many businesses are fleeing so the seventh largest economic power in the world may have no choice but to join the smart people or learn to eat sand and homeless people crap off the sidewalks because that’s a God damned desert full of tree hugging hippies.
I love the concept of the Providence. I want one as a suppressor host in .22LR! A great alternative to lever and pump guns for those of us who want speedy shooting without gas escaping through the action instead of through the suppressor. The only downside I expect is (non-mechanical) inaccuracy from a long, heavy trigger and an open-bolt-style forward movement after pulling the trigger before the round us fired. It would be hard but not impossible for shooters to master that. However, there is a familiar way they could deal with the heavy trigger pull: a binary trigger! Pulling the trigger loads the round, releasing it fires. The double-action binary trigger. Breaks each action into separate movements of the finger. I'm surprised I've never seen it one a revolver. Pull to cock, release to fire single-action. I'm supposing as mentioned in the video that the design works best with a shorter round. Well, it could be an extremely reliable shotgun that could feed shells of any power, but it might have to take short shells. If they're willing to introduce something weird and niche: a 1¾" chamber minishell-only 12 gauge? There are a lot of minishells on the market now, not just Aguila. I think they've been SAAMI approved. It could be a potent low-recoil/low-power shotgun, an alternative to a 20 or 28 gauge, but with very high capacity in a standard size magazine tube due to the minishells. Or even more out there but better suited for a shotgun with an extremely short chambering, a 10 gauge? A 10ga minishell should have at least the power of a 3" magnum 20ga, I reckon, but could fire larger buckshot efficiently if desired. If long shells can be made to work alright, how about a suppressed .410? It would be quite quiet and could cycle powerful or weak loads no problem. It would be great for pest control. You hear some little pest making noise around your property, and you can stop it right away no matter the hour without disturbing the neighbors. I suppose one thing at a time. Even if it's got a heavy conventional double-action style trigger and during it's long lock time jerks forward before firing, it will be great as the fastest-firing manual action, about on par with a double-action revolver. Such an action has a lot of potential for the development of interesting firearm concepts.
Jeremiah Cherry don't need to antagonize.. thank them for allowing a compliant Target piece !! they aren't making the rules legislators are... be grateful that they allow this compliant Target piece...! NJ boy
watching this August 2020, the communist state of California dropped the hammer on Title 1 sadly. the battle was lost but the war for our freedoms goes on
I live in Chicago and that Title 1 rifle looks intriguing to me. It may just be my ticket to owning an AR-15 in one of the most restrictive cities in the nation.
I’ve been waiting for the Providence for awhile. I hope they do us right and give us the first AR pistol style “firearm” in California we’ve been waiting for That’s not the bolt action one..
He said the Providence was also side charging @ 5:00 ? How would that work for a closed bolt, double action? Would the bolt lock back in the open position, resting on the trigger break? Thus open bolt? Interesting. Me thinks a fella could have a fun time playing with a shoe lace and key ring... It has a fixed firing pin, so a side-charging handle couldn't be safely used to retract the bolt and reciprocate it into battery. That would make the side charger a really awkward and unsafe trigger. I want to see this interesting baby in person!
It does have a fixed firing pin, and the side charger does lock the bolt back at the point of release. However, the bolt locks when it closes, without a gas system to unlock the bolt, the only way to open it is to pull the trigger with your finger, or pull the side charging handle again. I don't know if it can be "slam fired" like the old shotguns, keep the trigger pulled and just work the side charging handle, I didn't think to ask or try it out when I visited the booth. It would be interesting to see if it worked that way.
Is the providence NY legal?, cuz it would be awesome for those behind the lines and it would be the closest thing to semi-auto and be able to not be "communised" by the useless laws.
Yes according to the laws the providence is legal in 49 states confirmed waiting on CA. As a CT native myself I am very happy about that and am patiently waiting for this to come to market so I can snatch one up.
Squid Master it’s not technically open bolt. It fires from a closed, locked breech and the firing pin isn’t fixed. It stays closed and locked after firing until you actuate the bolt with your finger. It’s more like a single shot bolt action, where the bolt is ran by the finger with the rearward motion of the trigger instead of with the whole hand like a traditional bolt action. It’s a big ole middle finger to ban states. I love it. If it’s not priced ridiculously, I’ll be getting one(and I live in a free state) just because I like weird actions
3:13 The rep doesn't understand how an open bolt works lol🤣. You should send him a bill for the education🙃 The Prividence does look wicked cool, and looking forward to seeing it come to market.
It would be really nice to have a binary trigger for the Kriss Vector (and actually put that outstanding recoil system to use)....I love the BSFIII in the AR, want one for the AK, and B&T though a little afraid to mess with the perfection that is the B&T APC (has been selected for US forces and tons of other countries forces around the world to replace the mp5. Its the only gun I’ve ever fired worthy of replacing the MP5 (mpx is great, but not so much better, than mp5 especially when considering the fine Swiss manufacturing of an APC platform that handles pretty much every type (9,10,45,556,308... so far for us citizens) of round with its hydraulic buffer system.
Entry level rifle plus $400+ trigger sitting around a $1,000. Not that I think the BFSIII is worth it I have broke both my original and the replacement. With the selector strait up sheering off on my original, and the second deciding it wants to be burst fire on its own during a match.
1000$ is not entry level. That's mid tier, at least to me, when you consider that you can buy a complete AR from the likes of say American Tactical (decent brand) for anywhere from 450-600$. That's ENTRY level. The minimum standard.
They keep saying safer, yet I don't really see how. Seems to me that trigger is always live, and seems just as likely to put a hole in something as anything else. Some one explain to me....
Like the providence, but pretty preposterous to call a 1,000 dollar rifle "entry level." Certainly not the most expensive, but not entry level. Not with PSA and other companies.
The fact that anyone is celebrating the fact that a double action PCC had to be made to skirt the advancing oppressive laws is very sad. It is in fact a sign that we will continue to lose our rights. There is no one more at fault than those who have too much to lose. Im looking at every one who is ready to comply with anything more.
The title 1 firearm might be irrelevant on the 6th. Judge Saint Benitez will probably destroy my state’s “assault” weapon ban. The state being California. 😢
I'm so tired of the ar15esk PCC guns, they were cool at first but now they are just so pointless when an ar15 PCC would do just as good if not BETTER than these $1500-$3000 peices of comparative crap companies are selling today.
This guys a clown for hating on California. He should care about californias gun rights just as much as his because his state will probably be the same soon
Josh K the Providence is pretty interesting. Yes, as a suppressor host, it’d be great, but the real charm is in its middle finger to ban states. It’s not semi auto by any definition. It’s basically a single shot bolt action. The bolt just happens to be ran by the rearward motion of the trigger. I’d buy one just because I like interesting actions, but this thing could be sold anywhere bolt actions are legal.
Dude, fuck you. They're one of the few places putting money into supporting people behind enemy lines in ban states while at the same time finding ways to say fuck the atf.
I don't care what anyone says, that providence gun is garbage. I don't care if it's the quietest suppressor host in the world, I don't want my gun going off an unspecified amount of time after the trigger breaks, during which time the bolt actuates and spins then slams a new round in and then finally fires. Exactly how am I supposed to have any degree of accuracy with no discernable breaking point of the trigger (also in a heavy double action pull) and then I ton of inertia moving me off the target I just lined up. 😆👎👎 And I can build a PSA rifle and put a binary trigger and full auto bolt carrier in it for under $1000 and have a lifetime warranty on a gun and all the parts that I know will work... so I'm good on that too. Like that 'firearm' you can't sell anymore though...
Psa is also a fake pro 2a company that won't even sell anything that could go on an AR or AK like a muzzle break to anyone in a state like NY and CA. At least Franklin Armory tries and doesn't have fans saying "just move hardy har har"
@@WeAreSoBackBros lol, PSA not wanting to get sued out of existence by communist states like yours doesn't make them anti 2a. Also, not a lawyer and wouldn't ever live in those communist states so not 100% sure, but fairly sure all rifles have to be "featureless" in those states, meaning they couldn't sell you those parts legally if they wanted to. It's a free country, but if you're not willing or capable of moving to a free state, maybe you should stop bitching...
"Any degree of accuracy"....yes, because there are so many Sub-MOA PCCs right now... I know, that isn't what you meant, but you also get the gist of what I am saying. Also, what do you mean by "and then I ton of inertia moving me off the target"? I mean, yes, there is going to be some inertia from the bolt slamming forwards, but it is no where near the weight of an old open-bolt, blowback...and people were able to make them work on single shot. Obviously the Providence is not likely for you, but that doesn't make it garbage.
@@dposcuro yes, inertia. You'd need to get on target, pull a long double action trigger and wait for the break... then the bolt has to retract the spent round, chamber a new round and fire as it slams it into place. All of which pull you off target and then fire a round at least a second after the trigger breaks. 😆😆😆 garbage. Also, calling it an open bolt is inaccurate. However, if I wanted an open bolt, I'd get a transferable Uzi or MAC 10. It's a free country, you wanna spend hard earned cash on garbage, you go right ahead buddy! 😆😆😆
@@TheJoker-xw8zg Your viewing comprehension, and reading comprehension leave something to be desired. 1: If you paid attention, pulling back on the trigger unlocks the bolt, and ejects the cartridge. When it passes the break, the bolt slams forward, chambering the cartridge and firing it. It takes much less than 1 second from break to firing. Yes, there is a delay, probably less than a tenth of a second. 2: I never did call it an open bolt action. I did compare the weight of a locked breech bolt, to the weight of an old blowback unlocked breech, open bolt SMG. The locked breech of the Providence is going to have a very lightweight bolt in comparison, because it does not rely on weight for anything. In fact, less weight will help it close the bolt faster. A blowback SMG relies on bolt weight and spring pressure for a lot, so the bolts are hefty chunks of steel. Yet people were able to get acceptable accuracy for the time from old SMGs firing single shots, on man sized targets out to 100+ m. You make it sound like you expect this thing to be unable to hit anything past 50 yards. With a drastically lighter bolt, the Providence will not have that much inertia throwing off your accuracy. Yes, there will be some, I do not deny that. However, for the purpose of this firearm? No one is expecting sub-MOA accuracy from it, just like no one expects sub-MOA accuracy from any PCC as it is. Am I saying it will be a great firearm? No. Am I likely to get one? No. I just think people with obviously wrong understanding of things should have observable facts pointed out to them. Feel free to hate it, I don't care. However, just because you don't like it, doesn't make it garbage.
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A quote from batman begins, "Give me more time, there are good people here" Thank you franklin armory for not abandoning California.
Franklin armory , we love you in California. You are some of the few, strong enough and brave enough to stick up for our rights here in Ca. We really really need it. Thank you for what you do.
I like that Franklin Armory is keeping the ATF R&T department busy lmao
Love these guys, bringing freedom to the occupied states.
Cool on Franklin for always putting it to the ATF and Commiefornia!
technically, under UK law that Providence should be legal to own.
So much creative thinking over there
I don't care what anyone says-- just like I said last year, the Providence is a master stroke of genius. When Franklin says "foreign international markets," I say, "You mean like *California* ?" Because this gun is not a "semi automatic" by any legal definition. It is a *bolt action single shot* weapon-- but you simply in manipulate the bolt with your finger. Simple as pie, and now the fun starts... 9x19 super scary looking assaulty thingie *bolt action single shot* weapon. With a *"high capacity"* magazine (courtesy of Roger T. Benitez' Freedom Week) ... and what can Cali DOJ do? Nothing. Except provoke annnnnnother high profile court case.
This thing is genius. It is the usual Franklin middle-finger sass to idiotic gun laws, but with a practical KelTec inspired purpose-driven creativity. It makes the recent dialing in of anti-gun dopes' arguments (re: fully semi-automatic) even more muddled and confused. Every time you pull the trigger, it shoots... yet it remains unloaded after the shot. Like a Bolt action, like a lever-gun. Is a lever-gun okay? Welll, what if I can work the lever with my finger? You sure? ....Here it is! "That's an assault weapon." 🤨
Anyone who doesn't grasp how sublime this is, might just be a wee bit spoiled, taking liberties for granted in the free states. In Arizona, a true gun state (for now), we are neighbors with California... and the monumental stupidity surrounding everything anti-2A there. You can go from Constitutional Carry to a felony and year-in-prison in the blink of a traffic light. It's not hard to appreciate the clever fuckery of this "magazine-fed single-shot bolt action PCC" in the context of California's illogical, irrational insanity... or for that matter, Virginia--- and mažybe your state soon, too. There is no way this firearm does not change the game legally, assuming a good lawyer... IF Franklin can make and sell them at a fair cost (and if not, then they owe it to America to license and/or allow similar actions to be copied and proliferated).
Bring it to market, Franklin. Price it at $600-700 street and you have a winner. Price it like the Reformation, and you're over before it even starts. Take a short term loss for a long term, historical forward gain.
I can agree with your entire thought process on why this design is a good thing...totally in agreement. The one thing that will negate any of that positivity is the plus $1,000.00 price tag that would be likely to come from Franklin Armory.
Or move the fuck out of commiefornia.
Problem solved.
@@EliAngwin selfish
@@EliAngwin you do realize Californian anti-gunners are also fleeing California and turning other states blue, right?
Where you gonna go? Oregon? Virginia?
With a gear system they "should" be able to do a rifle version.
Franklin is coming out with some creative stuff, i like it.
INNOVATION
from CA, Thank You!
Okay, that Providence seems pretty cool, now that I understand what it does.
If anything I love Franklin Armory because they are like a lawyer railed a massive line of cocaine, found the most innovative designers, and set out with the sole purpose to skirt gun laws and take advantage of loopholes.
This comment needs to be pinned to the top hahahaha
Neat! That Providence is a great idea for areas that don't allow or restrict semi-automatics. :)
I noticed that 10-22 on the wall and I just kept hoping he was going to pull it down and say, BFSIII for the 10-22! Can't wait to get that baby and drop it in my SR-22 rifle!
I shot a Franklin binary 10/22 at range day. Don't remember which one. Fast as hell.
if i will remove the butstock of my ar rifle it will become a tittle 1?
God, I hate that state "that shall not be named".
Marc Pascual but they are dumb and free people are smart. I wonder who will win in the end. So many businesses are fleeing so the seventh largest economic power in the world may have no choice but to join the smart people or learn to eat sand and homeless people crap off the sidewalks because that’s a God damned desert full of tree hugging hippies.
@@john-paulsilke893 doubt enough would move out either way it's not like everyone thinks the same in California
Franklin Armory and other companies like Fostech make the NFA just even more ridiculously outdated, love the idea behind the Providence, very smart!
I love the concept of the Providence. I want one as a suppressor host in .22LR! A great alternative to lever and pump guns for those of us who want speedy shooting without gas escaping through the action instead of through the suppressor.
The only downside I expect is (non-mechanical) inaccuracy from a long, heavy trigger and an open-bolt-style forward movement after pulling the trigger before the round us fired. It would be hard but not impossible for shooters to master that. However, there is a familiar way they could deal with the heavy trigger pull: a binary trigger! Pulling the trigger loads the round, releasing it fires. The double-action binary trigger. Breaks each action into separate movements of the finger. I'm surprised I've never seen it one a revolver. Pull to cock, release to fire single-action.
I'm supposing as mentioned in the video that the design works best with a shorter round. Well, it could be an extremely reliable shotgun that could feed shells of any power, but it might have to take short shells. If they're willing to introduce something weird and niche: a 1¾" chamber minishell-only 12 gauge? There are a lot of minishells on the market now, not just Aguila. I think they've been SAAMI approved. It could be a potent low-recoil/low-power shotgun, an alternative to a 20 or 28 gauge, but with very high capacity in a standard size magazine tube due to the minishells. Or even more out there but better suited for a shotgun with an extremely short chambering, a 10 gauge? A 10ga minishell should have at least the power of a 3" magnum 20ga, I reckon, but could fire larger buckshot efficiently if desired.
If long shells can be made to work alright, how about a suppressed .410? It would be quite quiet and could cycle powerful or weak loads no problem. It would be great for pest control. You hear some little pest making noise around your property, and you can stop it right away no matter the hour without disturbing the neighbors.
I suppose one thing at a time. Even if it's got a heavy conventional double-action style trigger and during it's long lock time jerks forward before firing, it will be great as the fastest-firing manual action, about on par with a double-action revolver. Such an action has a lot of potential for the development of interesting firearm concepts.
“ There still chained to the desk as a matter of fact”😂🤣😂🤣😂☺️
The DA would be cool in .22
I agree
Franklin Armory wants all my money .. thanks for not forgetting about us here in California!
I appreciate FA simply because the things they make give a middle finger to the ATF
Jeremiah Cherry
don't need to antagonize.. thank them for allowing a compliant Target piece !! they aren't making the rules legislators are... be grateful that they allow this compliant Target piece...!
NJ boy
Providence reminds me of the Splatmaster Rapide double action paintball gun from back in the late 1980s.
watching this August 2020, the communist state of California dropped the hammer on Title 1 sadly. the battle was lost but the war for our freedoms goes on
I'll say they're making some interesting toys.
Unless you live in Florida.........
I live in Chicago and that Title 1 rifle looks intriguing to me. It may just be my ticket to owning an AR-15 in one of the most restrictive cities in the nation.
Mind bending.
Some cool stuff here. Definitely innovative
that providence is a genuine game changer
I’ve been waiting for the Providence for awhile. I hope they do us right and give us the first AR pistol style “firearm” in California we’ve been waiting for
That’s not the bolt action one..
Make the providence with a 2 finger extra leverage trigger like they have in paintball guns to help with the extra force needed to cycle the action.
He said the Providence was also side charging @ 5:00 ? How would that work for a closed bolt, double action? Would the bolt lock back in the open position, resting on the trigger break? Thus open bolt? Interesting. Me thinks a fella could have a fun time playing with a shoe lace and key ring...
It has a fixed firing pin, so a side-charging handle couldn't be safely used to retract the bolt and reciprocate it into battery. That would make the side charger a really awkward and unsafe trigger. I want to see this interesting baby in person!
It does have a fixed firing pin, and the side charger does lock the bolt back at the point of release. However, the bolt locks when it closes, without a gas system to unlock the bolt, the only way to open it is to pull the trigger with your finger, or pull the side charging handle again. I don't know if it can be "slam fired" like the old shotguns, keep the trigger pulled and just work the side charging handle, I didn't think to ask or try it out when I visited the booth. It would be interesting to see if it worked that way.
Is the providence NY legal?, cuz it would be awesome for those behind the lines and it would be the closest thing to semi-auto and be able to not be "communised" by the useless laws.
Yes according to the laws the providence is legal in 49 states confirmed waiting on CA. As a CT native myself I am very happy about that and am patiently waiting for this to come to market so I can snatch one up.
That Providence would be perfect with no stock
The FA Providence would possibly be good for the UK and Europe.
Thats what it was made for!
@@FranklinArmoryBFSTM Chuck a wood stock on and it'll be great for the Aussies too!
How's the trigger pull on the Providence empty? I imagine it will get a lot worse when extracting a fired case.
It felt very much like a DA revolver but maybe longer and a little lighter.
Or a completely full mag.
You forgot to ask if it takes glock mags. Lol
Damnit! I have to go back.
Im surprised they didn't classify the providence as open bolt and ban it as an mg.
Squid Master it’s not technically open bolt. It fires from a closed, locked breech and the firing pin isn’t fixed. It stays closed and locked after firing until you actuate the bolt with your finger. It’s more like a single shot bolt action, where the bolt is ran by the finger with the rearward motion of the trigger instead of with the whole hand like a traditional bolt action. It’s a big ole middle finger to ban states. I love it. If it’s not priced ridiculously, I’ll be getting one(and I live in a free state) just because I like weird actions
Would like to see this in 357 SIG & 9mm Dillon.
3:13 The rep doesn't understand how an open bolt works lol🤣. You should send him a bill for the education🙃 The Prividence does look wicked cool, and looking forward to seeing it come to market.
I got one for my Cz scorpion evo 3. It doesn't work in binary mode. Many others have the same problem.
It would be really nice to have a binary trigger for the Kriss Vector (and actually put that outstanding recoil system to use)....I love the BSFIII in the AR, want one for the AK, and B&T though a little afraid to mess with the perfection that is the B&T APC (has been selected for US forces and tons of other countries forces around the world to replace the mp5. Its the only gun I’ve ever fired worthy of replacing the MP5 (mpx is great, but not so much better, than mp5 especially when considering the fine Swiss manufacturing of an APC platform that handles pretty much every type (9,10,45,556,308... so far for us citizens) of round with its hydraulic buffer system.
$1000 isn’t entry level. Just my opinion
You are right. That's the lower end of a high end AR-15.
Entry level rifle plus $400+ trigger sitting around a $1,000. Not that I think the BFSIII is worth it I have broke both my original and the replacement. With the selector strait up sheering off on my original, and the second deciding it wants to be burst fire on its own during a match.
Is Ryan Reynolds working for franklin?
Because of Franklin Armory I get to own AR15 pistols in California! 😃😃😃
So the Providence can handle a dud round perfectly, you just pull the trigger again, that’s sweet.
That 10/22 would be pretty cool
The providence would be cool in 5.7
Awesomeness
1000$ is not entry level. That's mid tier, at least to me, when you consider that you can buy a complete AR from the likes of say American Tactical (decent brand) for anywhere from 450-600$. That's ENTRY level. The minimum standard.
They keep saying safer, yet I don't really see how. Seems to me that trigger is always live, and seems just as likely to put a hole in something as anything else. Some one explain to me....
How heavy is that trigger?
Andrew, with his meaty fingers was the only one able to demonstrate it.
Like the providence, but pretty preposterous to call a 1,000 dollar rifle "entry level." Certainly not the most expensive, but not entry level. Not with PSA and other companies.
The fact that anyone is celebrating the fact that a double action PCC had to be made to skirt the advancing oppressive laws is very sad. It is in fact a sign that we will continue to lose our rights. There is no one more at fault than those who have too much to lose. Im looking at every one who is ready to comply with anything more.
Fast forward 3 years later and still no title one in CA 🤣
So the providence would make me buy a 300 bo and suppressor
franklin's never ending quest for loophole...govt never ending revision or laws....
Palmetto State armory nuff said save your money!
What if one were to put a pistol brace on the Title 1?
Well then it's a pistol with a brace
.. Right? Pistol BRACE.
you can't have it with high capacity mags
Will the reformation also be ban state legal
Cao Len I would imagine it would have to be. It’s a single shot bolt action in which the bolt is ran by the rearward motion of the trigger.
@@NG-VQ37VHR that's the providence, not the reformation.
Squid Master yep, you’re right. Thanks for setting that straight. I was thinking about the Providence when I read the comment.
Providence! That thing is tits. Never seen something like that. And now I need a binary 10/22....
They better hurry or PSA will beat them to market with a clone that will be 1/2 the money.
Lol. Facts.
10/22 bianary?
Yes!
I want one!👋
Mmmmm gimme
4 years later...
I want this.
The title 1 firearm might be irrelevant on the 6th. Judge Saint Benitez will probably destroy my state’s “assault” weapon ban. The state being California. 😢
Didn't hear anything about that today (the 6th), but I'll have an ear open. Of course any ruling will have to survive the maze of appeals.
call it a compliant Target piece
don't call it the g word
Shy do I want a providence in 50 ae lol
I'm so tired of the ar15esk PCC guns, they were cool at first but now they are just so pointless when an ar15 PCC would do just as good if not BETTER than these $1500-$3000 peices of comparative crap companies are selling today.
I think you're missing the point on the Providence.
9:46
Fail... oops
It better come in 40 magnum. For you none mericans that's 10mm
@Kevin J thanks my man. Want to be myspace friends boomer
This guys a clown for hating on California. He should care about californias gun rights just as much as his because his state will probably be the same soon
Poor guy got the short straw at the shop... So many bad ideas, it's amazing Franklin Armory is still in business.
Josh K the Providence is pretty interesting. Yes, as a suppressor host, it’d be great, but the real charm is in its middle finger to ban states. It’s not semi auto by any definition. It’s basically a single shot bolt action. The bolt just happens to be ran by the rearward motion of the trigger. I’d buy one just because I like interesting actions, but this thing could be sold anywhere bolt actions are legal.
Dude, fuck you. They're one of the few places putting money into supporting people behind enemy lines in ban states while at the same time finding ways to say fuck the atf.
@@EndingTimes0 way to put it man👍👍
I don't care what anyone says, that providence gun is garbage. I don't care if it's the quietest suppressor host in the world, I don't want my gun going off an unspecified amount of time after the trigger breaks, during which time the bolt actuates and spins then slams a new round in and then finally fires. Exactly how am I supposed to have any degree of accuracy with no discernable breaking point of the trigger (also in a heavy double action pull) and then I ton of inertia moving me off the target I just lined up. 😆👎👎
And I can build a PSA rifle and put a binary trigger and full auto bolt carrier in it for under $1000 and have a lifetime warranty on a gun and all the parts that I know will work... so I'm good on that too. Like that 'firearm' you can't sell anymore though...
Psa is also a fake pro 2a company that won't even sell anything that could go on an AR or AK like a muzzle break to anyone in a state like NY and CA. At least Franklin Armory tries and doesn't have fans saying "just move hardy har har"
@@WeAreSoBackBros lol, PSA not wanting to get sued out of existence by communist states like yours doesn't make them anti 2a. Also, not a lawyer and wouldn't ever live in those communist states so not 100% sure, but fairly sure all rifles have to be "featureless" in those states, meaning they couldn't sell you those parts legally if they wanted to. It's a free country, but if you're not willing or capable of moving to a free state, maybe you should stop bitching...
"Any degree of accuracy"....yes, because there are so many Sub-MOA PCCs right now...
I know, that isn't what you meant, but you also get the gist of what I am saying.
Also, what do you mean by "and then I ton of inertia moving me off the target"? I mean, yes, there is going to be some inertia from the bolt slamming forwards, but it is no where near the weight of an old open-bolt, blowback...and people were able to make them work on single shot.
Obviously the Providence is not likely for you, but that doesn't make it garbage.
@@dposcuro yes, inertia. You'd need to get on target, pull a long double action trigger and wait for the break... then the bolt has to retract the spent round, chamber a new round and fire as it slams it into place. All of which pull you off target and then fire a round at least a second after the trigger breaks. 😆😆😆 garbage.
Also, calling it an open bolt is inaccurate. However, if I wanted an open bolt, I'd get a transferable Uzi or MAC 10. It's a free country, you wanna spend hard earned cash on garbage, you go right ahead buddy! 😆😆😆
@@TheJoker-xw8zg Your viewing comprehension, and reading comprehension leave something to be desired.
1: If you paid attention, pulling back on the trigger unlocks the bolt, and ejects the cartridge. When it passes the break, the bolt slams forward, chambering the cartridge and firing it. It takes much less than 1 second from break to firing. Yes, there is a delay, probably less than a tenth of a second.
2: I never did call it an open bolt action. I did compare the weight of a locked breech bolt, to the weight of an old blowback unlocked breech, open bolt SMG. The locked breech of the Providence is going to have a very lightweight bolt in comparison, because it does not rely on weight for anything. In fact, less weight will help it close the bolt faster. A blowback SMG relies on bolt weight and spring pressure for a lot, so the bolts are hefty chunks of steel. Yet people were able to get acceptable accuracy for the time from old SMGs firing single shots, on man sized targets out to 100+ m. You make it sound like you expect this thing to be unable to hit anything past 50 yards.
With a drastically lighter bolt, the Providence will not have that much inertia throwing off your accuracy. Yes, there will be some, I do not deny that. However, for the purpose of this firearm? No one is expecting sub-MOA accuracy from it, just like no one expects sub-MOA accuracy from any PCC as it is.
Am I saying it will be a great firearm? No. Am I likely to get one? No. I just think people with obviously wrong understanding of things should have observable facts pointed out to them. Feel free to hate it, I don't care. However, just because you don't like it, doesn't make it garbage.