The Hidden Cost of MMA
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
- There is a hidden cost to MMA which is not always discussed, thus to know the Truth about MMA, we invite you to watch this short MMA documentary which will give deeper insight into how mma and brain damage are connected.
Although many sports have brain damage including boxing and football, it is not something to take lightly since in mma history we had more than once occasion where an mma fighter died in the ring due to heavy brain damage.
In this video you will see a statistic and truth about mma and ufc brain damage and how mma death can occur. While some of the bloodiest fights in mma doesn't always end in death in the ring, it is important to remember that mma injury and mma trauma also accumulates with time and eventually leads to more important injuries such as permanent brain damage. If you want to avoid this we invite you to take a look at this video so you would better know what mma injuries can lead to so that mma death in the ring would become even less common.
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The only thing that should changes is these guys pay. MMA fighters are grossly underpaid.
true
Fonch Z not really. We use to have sponsorship money. But Dana White wants his contract money with rebook more than he does the guys who fight.
even with the sponsors they were getting shit. considering they have to pay for their own medical bills and basically get 2-3 pay days a year. the reebok really didnt cut into fighter pay all that much. what it does do however is force them to play ball a lot more since their pay comes directly from one source
Mr. Orangeaide you also have to have a twitter account and Instagram page promoting their supply. Usually fighters would get anywhere from 2 -3 grand a month just promoting on their fan pages, that's not even considering the advertising their product while your in the cage.
And not to mention pro fighters now days usually have medicals covered.
the twitter and fan page this ill take your word for. i have to call a bit of bullshit on fighters having their medical bills covered since im positive that the mmaaa have that as one of their mandates/demands for the ufc
Personally, I think they should ban gloves and tape altogether in MMA.
Ramsey Dewey heck if they did youd still be fighting
I agree . No gloves , no tapes = less knockouts
Yea but getting punched by a bare fist is more dangerous and knockout are more likely knockouts will happen regardless the padding is to protect the persons hand and the person getting punched
Syafiq Streakerz oh yea didn’t know forgot to watch the whole video thanks M8
Gloves are to protect hands and prevent cuts
So people who do boxing and MMA didnt know that getting punched in the head could cause brain damage?
+Alec James Why dont we just change it to girly slapping matches then? Its fighting, people get hurt its simply what happens.
Exactly, if you change it too much its not mma anymore. I agree with the gloves thing.
+Alec James yea
They should make some kind of gloves
You libertarians are so naive. There's no freedom, only empire.
blackmagick77 huh?
Joao was one of a small handful of amateur MMA fighters to die as a result. HUNDREDS of boxers have had documented ringside deaths since its widespread popularity in the mid 19th century
Joao didnt even take that many punches in that one fight, compared to some other fighters who have taken a longer flurry of punches and harder; Hoao was just unlucky it could have been his make as everyone is different and some peoples brains are more likely to bleed or it could have been damage building up over his career and training; another major factor to take into account is the weight cut, when fighters cut a lot of weight they need to rehydrate and sometimes their brains can still be very dehydrated this makes it easier for a trauma to the head to cause it to bleed majorly. I dont know if there is a way around it but I feel that weight cutting for the weigh in is bad for the fighters health in many ways especially in the long term and also isnt realistic. I know it isnt the sport of self defence its of fighting but if you were to prove who the ultimate fighter is really and whos in the best condition day to day; you wouldnt need to cut a lot of weight for the weigh in just to get a mass advantage on your opponent.
Apples and oranges though. Boxing has been around a lot longer than pro MMA and there are more boxing shows globally than MMA shows.
You'd have to wait until there are comparative numbers in both before you draw any meaningful conclusion. That said, they do seem to be more safety conscious in MMA what with the medical bans on fighting within certain times etc...
Actually gloves were added to appease athletic commissions. There's a misconception that gloves protect the fighters head when in reality they really only protect the fighters hands.
and careers, a infection on the hands a broke wrist , a smashed cartilage,cut ende a fighter career like that.
So in other words, bare knuckles are safer.
@@henrythemuthafuckineighth The wrapping is still a minimal requirement. At least it avoid infection to the hands from cuts.
It can protect their face, but it increases brain damage because people punch harder with gloves
Yes, but you don't punch as hard anymore, wich would make it more natural and "realistic", because in a street fight you don't use gloves.
I introduced an idea of bare knuckle to a pro mma-guy and he was not enthusiastic about it. It can really f...k up your hands pretty bad. But honestly, I think bare knuckle contest involves more tactics and movement. You don't want to get your face cut, and your hands damaged, so you calculate punches and try to evade ones. And grappling becomes a bigger deal.
All those KO's and especially TKO after GnP actually make the sport too risky and brutal. After watching lots of MMA I switched to pure grappling events (submission only). It is intense as hell and nobody gets a brain damage.
Anyway thanks for a video. This topic SHOULD be discussed.
Thats the thing .. they use gloves so they can go on and the show goes on and they make money .. if ur hands get damaged then ud have to stop regardless which will resemble real fighting and not a show ..
MMA is significant safer than boxing, I think the small gloves do enough to protect the hands, without removing all consequences for hard hitting. Plenty of fighters in the UFC have broken their hands, even with gloves, and You don't have standing 8, or 10 counts, that allow people to get knocked out, or rocked over and over again, just because they can pull their shit together in under 10 seconds,
It would make it also more natural, in a street fight you also don't wear any gloves
I would rather die than live with brain damage. No cap.
Before he died, Muhammed Ali could attest to the effects of too many hits to the head.
Yeah but you couldn't understand him LOL
"wa ga bee bo goo-goo ga-ga!"
Ali had Parkinson's disease. Just like my uncle.
My uncle was never a boxer.
It is not possible to say that Ali's condition was caused by boxing.
Matty Bt It's not possible? Tell that to his doctor.
"Muhammad Ali suffers from Parkinson's syndrome because of injuries to the brain he sustained during his 22-year boxing career, his doctor said Wednesday."
That was in 1987. You can look it up.
Matty Bt "Ali had Parkinson's disease. Just like my uncle.
My uncle was never a boxer.
It is not possible to say that Ali's condition was caused by boxing."
And my sister was never a smoker, and she had cancer; so by your logic, it is not possible to attribute cancer to smoking.
Tom Evans One can link cancer to smoking in general as there is sufficient evidence to show causation in the general sense.
When considering an individual, one cannot say with certainty what the cause of the disease was.
Science tells us that someone who smokes has a higher risk of cancer.
Science also tells us someone who has a genetic disposition to cancer is also at higher risk.
Should an individual who both smokes and has a genetic disposition, get cancer - it is not possible with certainty to attribute it to either heredity factors or behavioural factors.
It could be both, one or the other or none.
It could be environmental for example.
I hope this explains the difference between causation shown in larger groups and causation in an individual for you.
yes, i think the rules should *_definitely_* change to *NO GLOVES*.
Brain trauma is horrible.
"Don't knock it till you've tried it."
As someone who enjoys boxing, I wholeheartedly agree with you. It's ridiculous that it seems like half the time, when people try to add gear to make a sport safer, they make it less safe. This is clearly true of boxing, football, and MMA. Get rid of all the damned padding and head/hand "protection," and the sports will fix themselves.
Mishalex exactly! It's probably that the people who make up those regulations don't actually _do_ the sports themselves! >:/
Yeah, take the gloves away from the UFC and there's a good chance it will revert into a snooze fest grappling contest like before
Braveheart It's only a snoozefest to those who understand little about grappling. Now, I realize that to draw large commercial revenue, it might be necessary to encourage more striking in one form or another, but this is a fact I find unfortunate. I love boxing, but to me, a no-holds barred fight SHOULD involve precisely that- holds. It's too bad that there isn't more appreciation for some of the work done on the mat, but you do make a fair point as far as mass-marketable entertainment is concerned.
My friend used to say "getting hit in the head makes me feel stupid" so he went to join BJJ instead XD.
Mood
But you get strangled to death there and it feels like you're going to die 🥲
let's bring back bare knuckle fighting... safer to fighters, more realistic fighting scenario.
People who dont understand mma think its 2 barbaric
+Amari Ajrulla Well it's probably more of an entertainment issue in my opinion.. There's no doubt in my mind that MMA fans overall would rather see a fight with more strikes thrown because it's more exciting. I would also submit to you that those same fans have never practiced mixed martial arts or been punched in the face repeatedly. I'd also bet that if you polled them, you would find that they don't give a shit what happens to the fighters as long as they are entertained. I agree though. Bare knuckle fighting is more realistic and, in the end, probably a good deal safer. I'd rather break a bone (and I have) than sustain a concussion (which I have). Bones will heal.
Mma isn't and never has been a realistic fighting scenario. They fight in a cage for fuck sakes
In an open field
do you find yourself ambushed in the open fields a lot? Do you choose to fight instead of running? You are either very brave or very stupid sir ;D
0:59 seriously tho, how cool was that 😁
It is. Maybe you should go learn yourself.
@@angelwarrior5519 chilll
it is actually safer to fight bare knuckle because it teaches the fighter to punch properly and not to hit the hard bone areas of the skull. in my opinion even though I dont watch mma they should bring back bare knuckles.
Needs more skill imo
And practicing ur knuckles
Amari Ajrulla exactly if it needs more skill then they would know not to punch for the head.
i think they should continue with this type of mma and also open a similar one called X-TREME MMA. In XTREME the old bare knuckles, all elbow strikes, and head butts would be allowed. Just no attacking the groin area in any way, no biting, no eye gouging, and definately. This would give a lil advantage to strikers when both are standing but grapplers can do some serious damage when the get someone on their back and then headbut them. XTREME FIGHTERS would probably have much shorter carriers but they know the risks going into it so....
then there would be the XXTREME MMA where biting, ball tapping, and eye gauging is ok! id watch that!
The name Mixed Martial Arts is objectionable as it is a sport and there is nothing "Martial" about it.
Martial has to do with actually military-war fighting which is to kill or maim.
No way such a thing would be allowed by "the authorities" and one has to wonder who would really want to fight in it when you could lose an eye in a fraction of a second.
Just like any physical and violent sport (boxing,mma,football) everything comes with a price unfortunately.But im sure if you would to ask any retired famous football player,boxer,mma fighter if it was worth it they'd propably say of course.All the glory,the adrenaline,the fame etc.they would say it would be worth shaving some years from their lives to have lived all this.Whats the point of becoming 100 years old if you never really did anything exciting in your life.
Μάνθος Φουστάνος Lmaoo. Yeah i’d be fine with being brain dead as long as i got the glory.
Exactly!!! Fuck being a 100 year old piece of shit when you can die a legend 😈😈
The guy who has Alzheimer's in his 40s may have forgotten the glory of his 20s. There's no point of living glorious times if you won't remember it later when you get old.
Μάνθος Φουστάνος Exactly, id rather do something with a short life than do nothing with a long one
That's up to the individual... lots of folks would rather have 10 years of absolute action and achievement than 10,000 of sitting around drinking tea and reading a newspaper. To each his own. If I could have been a middle linebacker I would have, but I don't have the body, drive or talent to do it.. why would I think someone that can shouldn't?
I think their is a common misconception about mma not all people that learn want to compete some people learn for fitness and even self defense. This whole thing about people against violence is bullshit humans are naturally violent we aren't some peaceful creatures. If you are against mma because of the violence then let's ban video games, movies, American football, and any other contact sport because it can lead to 'violence'. The sooner people can accept violence and know it's dangers and usefulness will we then grow as a society.
EXACTLY! But you have to realize, this video is HATING on MMA because it's by an aikido bullshidoka who wants to say that MMA is dangerous to EVERYONE who does it.
It only takes ONE person to start a fight, not 2, and any kid who's been bullied knows that if you fight back, you'd better know what the fuck you're doing.
You two fools missed the point of the video all together. Go watch it again. The one and only concern he is raising is brain damage suffered by these skilled athletes due to repeated punches to the head and whether downright brain damage is acceptable price for our entertainment.
ultimatejb7 humans aren't peaceful creatures? Well yes and that's why we have rules , are you really comparing mma to video games?
Black Cash it's not the video game itself that's the comparison it's the violence factor of certain types of video games. If you want to put out the point to ban a sport like mma due to its violent nature hell we should ban all contact sports. Any contact sport can turn violent and statistically theirs more major injuries in other contact sports than mma. Notice how I said major not minor so I'm talking about concussions, broken legs, arms, ankles etc....
Gaurab Chatterjee go look up the statistics for brain injuries in football and boxing then compare that to that of mma. Once you have and theirs empirical evidence that their is more major brain and head injuries in mma compared to those sports then call me the fool. Until then your point is invalid.
Life isnt permanant anyways. A ship is always more safe when its in the harbour but its not meant for that.
@@ivandavid1469 That's true.
well when you knock somebody down and still run after him and punch him in the head as many times as you can before the ref pulls you off him in my opinion is disrespectful,stupid and dangerous and it has to stop .
exactly bro! you speak much wisdom with few words
+hercmet Ground and pound is a natural reaction in a fight. Are you suggesting that refs stop fight sooner or no ground and pound at all?
Theres groundwork in most martial arts but usually its one punch to a vital area such as neck temple philtrum windpipe solar plexus not a bunch of random punches and hopefully one will hit them or some half assed hammer fist to the top of your skull when you mount someone how its usually done in UFC your only using your arms maybe your shoulders when you do in karate for instance theres more control like for example putting one knee on top of there chest with your other leg to your side for a higher stance with your hand pushing down on his throat or wrenching his neck sideways than rising a little with your free leg and on the way down using your free hand deliver the punch using your back muscles and shoulder and twisting your torso for maximum effect either knocking him out or have him think about what hes done without complete humiliation control and conditioning is key and dedication to your art and respect for each other with minimum damage towards each other
This is one of many examples never rush art in time it will be satisfying
+random69ism all i am saying is that there is a big difference between taking somebody down and knocking somebody down .when you knock someone down/out you should stop and back off .plain and simple .
Awesome dude, i'm a comissioner of MMA in my city, This video is very entertaining and informative .
Follow these fabulous research . Congratulations on your success.
Excuse me what commisioner mean
Please don't ruin MMA for your city
"No holds bared" lmao
It's barred
yeah it is bared. it's not "no holds no bared"
Boxing has more head trauma but I would like to see bare knuckle make a comeback.
Tengu Ronin source?
Borat Sagdiyev did you watcht he video mate? the source is at 4:10
Tengu Ronin My dream is to become UFC world champion and inspire people along the way Follow my journey much love
Tengu Ronin it just became legal
bare knucke is back BFC
I couldn't of said this better myself..Great job.They also suffer from Osteoporosis after breaking bones sometime's.I'ts fun too watch but,can end badly.
Thank you for raising this topic, I think it's not just gloves that cause brain damage, massive weight cuts due to dehydration is also an equal contributing factor. I agree with concept of bare knuckle too. It's more realistic and logical .
Thanks, good points
Definitely no gloves. Every time I put on wraps & MMA gloves on, I feel like I put on two weapons. If not for the gloves, I would grapple wayyyy more
Pankration was all "NHB", in fact, it was considered so brutal it was removed from the Olympics were it was the dominant sport. NHB did NOT start in Brazil.
Study up on that.
Well nhb is just fighting. So it is older than Greece too, actually older than humans themselves.
The "who started it" argument is nonsense if you ask me.
craigpnapd nhb as in modern context
As a Greek I have to inform you that the whole Pankration package that they sell now is bullshit. Yes there was but the modern Pankration is a combination of modern Kickboxing and wrestling. Literally nothing original. It was made by some dudes that they did not win any titles and they tried to become famous by that.
Joao Carvalho was hit 9 times whilst on the ground in the turtle position, offering some defence to all of them. His death is obviously tragic, but it really wasn't "ground and pound" that did it.
I don't think that, that cost can be considered hidden, with boxing and American football.
First because MMA is seen as the main playground to show effectiveness of hand to hand fighting, and you wouldn't have gloves in real life, I think gloves should be removed.
Second, practicing MMA with gloves makes it more risky, which makes things worse for everyone except people that want to see a show.
These guys know what they are getting into. if they didn't want to take the risk then they wouldn't fight.
no they dont not everyone is well informed
@@johnnyroe8053 Actually they do ,and if they dont there not serious about there craft .
@@jinyow5581 wrong, and learn how to spell
@@johnnyroe8053No,right and learn how to capitalize and ,to read while your at it .There is no incorrect spelling unless your referring to lack of punctuation and if so that not spelling that grammer either way your a tool with nothing but grammer Nazi crybaby tactics to support your idiotic comment .Good day troll !
I mean yes buuuut its kinda shiet that they have to do so
I agree. Bring back the bare knuckles, multiple fights in one night, and allowing fighters to wear Gi.
No gloves would be better, it's safer for both fighters, but it doesn't really matter that much. Brain damage rates in MMA are significantly lower than that of boxing and football-- and death rates in MMA are lower than that in boxing, football and soccer.
+Jon “Rezenik” Sackett he at least shows his sources in the video for the facts he is putting forth. What sources are you siting that say differently. I;m genuinely curious.
Head Trauma in Mixed Martial Arts by Michael G. Hutchinson (and others) is the study he's quoting mainly in this video. The study specifically looks at KO and TKO finishes, but not long term brain injury. Due to MMA being relatively young there aren't many studies about long term brain injuries.
There is a study being currently conducted about long term brain injuries in boxing and MMA (Cleveland Clinic's "Professional Fighter Brain Health Study"), but until that finishes-- we won't have solid numbers. The few early studies on the matter seemed to point at MMA having less long term brain injuries, which was thought to be the product of MMA not having a 10 count, but they're really not enough for me to count as pure fact-- as such I apologize for making it seem that way in my OP.
About death rates in MMA vs other sports, there are a total of 9 deaths in MMA since UFC started. An average of 12 American Football players die every year, There's roughly 10 Soccer deaths a year (this one is hard to source but seems to be consistant). Boxing is very low compared to Soccer and Football, with only 9 deaths in the past 10 years, statistically higher than MMA-- but not by much.
I won't cite deaths, since they're all separate, but the information isn't too hard to find.
Jon Sackett
Awesome. Thanks for the info. Though isn't long term brain injury caused be concussions, in regards to contact sports. Would they really need to wait years for a study on long term brain damaged cause by MMA, or can they just start doing studies now on MMA caused concussions and sub-concussive hits? Similar to what they are doing right now in rugby.
On a side note, i tend to assume that most adult MMA fighters are at least peripherally aware of the dangers of there sport. What i'd be extremely curious to see is a study done on the wide variety of other Martial Art sports, like Olympic TKD, Kyokushin, WKF karate, Point Sparring, Judo, or any of the other MA sports that are available to kids.
DeadpoolAndFriends Well, they're doing studies like that currently, and concussions do cause long term brain injury-- but the way the concussions happen in boxing and MMA is completely different, which is why I think long term brain injury studies will be more telling.
It's been a long held theory that boxing lends itself more to long term brain injury due to the 10 count, which can lead to a fighter getting TKO'd multiple times before losing, raising the chance of long term brain injury-- or so they theorize.
Either way, it'll be nice to know for sure when the studies end.
For kids martial arts, I'd argue it's significantly safer since most systems prohibit striking to the head. Headgear, on the other hand, I believe has been shown to be more harmful than helpful.
Thai Muay Thai, on the other hand, is probably horrible for kids-- but that is more or less restricted in the US.
Lol Jookyman I must agree.
Jon, yeah it's notorious that American boxing competitors have a lot of brain problems. But it's like many sportive competiton : people push their bodies beyond limits and a have short careers as pro.
I had a discussion about us football with a friend and we agreed that playing without all the protective equipment would make it safer. The same goes for fighting. Great video.
Interesting presentation. I have often questioned my own morality when viewing the sheer brutality and violence as "entertaining" as a spectator. It is a difficult question, however, I believe in free-will and if there is a consensual agreement of the two fighters to enter a ring or cage as an act of violent contest, who I am a person to say that is wrong. On the other hand, it still doesn't personally absolve me morally from finding such a contest as entertaining when I know the debilitating physical, neurological, psychological, emotional, and interpersonal problems fighters will suffer.
bring back bare knuckles fighting
incentives fighters to condition their body in general as well as their shins and fists- and to strike more properly and realistically
No holds bared?
+ceejay1992 ?
I think they're referring to the way you pronounce "barred". I know what you mean but to my ear it sounds more like beared. I don't think it really matters and my mastery of foreign languages is terrible (I'm guessing English isn't your first language) so I wouldn't worry about it
tomfurstyfield Yeah, you are right :) I finally got it. But yes, it's a learning process
Nice video. Also with MMA there is also the problem of weight cutting affecting brain trauma. I think a large proportion of deaths in boxing come in lighter weight classes where weight cuts are more extreme in comparison to heavy weights.
AikidoSiauliai If it's not your first language you speak very well then. Congrats.
Prolonged battles really could take a toll on the body even if the fighter never had been knocked down.
it still causes less brain damage than boxing
how is that even possible?
boxers have better padding and also those ground and pound hits are devestating
tim - well MMA ground and pound is pretty dangerous; however there is a lot of grappling in mma. Boxing however is all punches and new research is coming out that shows repetitive damage I.e getting jabbed over and over is worse than getting knocked out. In the end neither is better or worse if you do either long term you will get brain damage
tim - boxers get to stand back up after they almost get knocked out, In mma once a fighter can't protect himself the fight is over
Padding ADDS to braindamage. It decreases cuts and bruises.
tim - well ground and pound finish a fight in mma that would entirely possibly continue in boxing with them getting hammered even more
There is nothing artistic or honourable about fighting you can either win or lose but you will always suffer the consequences of every punch or kick. Wether on the street or in the ring people need to understand when you put your fists up you play with death or worse.
its interesting that the general wisdom about fighting gloves are so completely wrong.
when we hear "bare knuckle fights" that sounds more brutish then the alternative but like you said its not. it forces the fighters to be careful with their strikes for their own safety.
the folk wisdom is that the gloves make it easier on the one being punched. silly silly folk. the gloves protect the punchER not the punchEE.
I think that the rules in mma and boxing should change to warranty the safety of the athlete. For example in kyokushin have a good rules to warranty the safety in competition. They can be strength fighters but always be human and the human body have limitations and weaknesses.
Also just on a consumer level I'd really wanna see a no glove no wrist wrap division. Be interesting to see where the sport developed at the highest level without gloves
Fighting causes DAMAGE....getting hit in the head causes DAMAGE......
take the gloves out, then they can learn more effective techniques , who ever got into a fight on the street and had gloves on ?
Way too dangerous bro for both sides
Ppl who actually know how to box will break their hands on your face every fight if there are no gloves
@@jaahnnn yeah their wrist is gone and your face too since naked hands produce more power
Look at bear knuckle boxing, it would be so dangerous
who cares about that??
, its a sport it doesnt hav to see like a street fight, go and see street fights if you want that.
We aren't sacrificing the lives of these fighters. They don't have a cost they have to pay. They're doing this WILLINGLY and KNOWINGLY. If they want to fight, they fight - knowing full well the dangers to their minds and bodies if they do.
I have no issue with people beating on each other until they cause or receive permanent damage, as long as both fighters are cognizant of the risks they take. If the leagues want to address safety and fighter longevity, with the support of the fighters, that's fine by me. If they don't, that's also fine.
At first it was a very interesting platform for brave warriors to test their art against other arts, it was brutal but I understood why they did it . Now it has become a force/system of its own and the reasons are more for personal victory/glory , than to test your system. Apart from brain damage or risk of death it has lost the etiquette of TMA' s, where people bow and genuinely test skill like at a San Shou tournament, a Judo contest , Sumo or Karate. Of course all if those have risk but have rules of safety and a code of honour. At San Shou contests it can be two different styles of Kung Fu, maybe Tai Chi Chuan against one of the external arts or something completely different and is a test of a person's development and system he trains in. MMA seems to be a style of its own more now against itself. The loss of etiquette has led to the FANS on the internet taunting TMAs often without any understanding of them or because some spokesman for MMA has attempted to ridicule them. In TMAs often a disciple takes vows not to insult other schools and has a code of behaviour to obey before learning some of the more dangerous practices and the full art. It contained self improvement. Saying that I've noticed many of the actual MMA practitioners are interested in all martial.arts and are respectful. But the sport has a dark side which is all the internet warriors insulting all arts except MMA.
Have a great day :)
Hey I'm a thai boxer and not a single soul hates on it🤷♂️ (no idea wtf ur paragraphs about, only read first and last sentence) have a good day too tho:)
Ineffective Martial Arts and Martial Artists are more dangerous than MMA in general.
Every martial arts has his own risks. Even in Aikido you can see frequent shoulder and elbow damage. Even a good uke has his share of lesion.
+Daniel Weckwerth True. Although the injury in popular sports is given much more space, partially simply because a lot of people enjoy a certain level of violence.
+AikidoSiauliai Yes thats true. Anyway, good video! Keep doing it, this is the kind of "productive" video, that you only share facts and not lies.
Daniel Weckwerth Thanks. I appreciate it. I'm still searching where I can give most value to people and it sometimes gets to controversial topics, but I'm doing my best to give something true and meaningful. A word of encouragement always helps there
Daniel Weckwerth aikido is a joke.
There is combat jujitsu which is mostly grappling with light smacking. You can't get more safe than that.
It's a risky sport, no doubt about it, but if the people involved decided to do it, fully aware of the risks to their health, I don't see a problem with it, so long as they know what could happen with them.
Its not that ppl want to help other ppl
Amari Ajrulla What do you mean?
I think rules should change to protect the fighters from brain damage
In some organizations in Japan, they were not allowed to ground and pound. The could strike while standing. But on the ground it was submission only. ....That may be, and I mean MAY be a good ideah. Positive feedback welcome. No trolling please.
well I disagree, i dont like G&P... but as a striker and grappler i feel its important to have it, it keeps BJJ and Newaza guys honest and their feet planted firmly on the ground. Removing G&P would lead to either one guy trying with all his strenght to escape and the other guy trying to hold him there for dear life. Or scenario nr 2 where both will just go full ADCC on eachother and we will watch 25 minutes of the World Nogi Championships.
And that's how you create a useless martial art. Next step is no punches to the head and stuff like that. In the end there is no sparing at all and we created another useless movement system with no practical value at all.
I agree, I think it's a useless rule, it takes no skill to punch the shit out of someone who fell on the ground, just pure brutality. I like watching mma because it's full contact but I don't see the need to allow such a thing.
Lowlandweller _ it takes skill to get to that position and it takes skill to avoid being choked off the back
Sorry. I have seen some guys in Japanese fights go the floor only covering their heads, and turning their backs toward their opponent. Waiting for the adversary to tire out or get bore, from not being able to strike the other guy. Then, they pull some technique to win the fight. That's just makes it shittier and boring...
Dude, the rules of MMA make it safer than boxing, football, and even cheerleading lol
cheer leading....? the fuck?
PJ Rivera how tf do you die from cheerleading......
PJ Rivera Tf...
Damn
hey, cheerleading is the most dangerous of all, doing those stupid gymnastics.
Rules need to stay the same if you cant handle it don't sign up
Ah ha,
The old 'No holds Bear'
I saw one in the woods once. Don't ever startle a 'No holds Bear', they are the most dangerous of all the species.
There were a lot of comments about pronounciation of "No holds Beared" in this video, but you know... This one I really enjoyed! Good one ;)
Sincerely,
Rokas (OP)
lol.
You're Videos are awesome, have a nice day.
A Good sense of humor is a brilliant defense. Agree that the changes in sport have increased brain injuries, much as in Football. True, they are 'voluntary' sports, but many are intoxicated by the machismo, respect & fame associated. Not bad to go out as gladiators, long as one KNOWS the risks.
Thin 4oz gloves cause so much less brain injury than boxing gloves.
I wish MMA can bring back bare fist, but lots of fighter prefer brain damages than cuts on their face lead to nasty scar tissues on their face, coz that will change the way of everyone looks at them in everyday life.
I think that we're both somewhat coming from Ramsey Dewey when I say that I would support bringung bare knuckle back to the sport. Hand injuries suck, but that arent as bad as brain damage.
From a technical standpoint, most people would leave the striking game significantly, but there are two differences now: 1. Fans of the sport are more knowledgeable about grapple thanks to mma, 2. Fighters that wanted to continue to use striking would be forced to better condition their hands and increase precision to reach thw same ends. That would be something I'd like to see.
It seems that mma is opposite of martial arts. Mma is for money and fame not for self protecting and health
I always find it a bit weird to bring up Goodridge constantly, when it comes to brain damage and MMA. The dude also had nearly 40 kickboxing bouts ..... only twelve of which he won. Go figure ... He was knocked out cold eight times during that stint! And he pursued it alongside his MMA career basically. I think that did far more harm to him.
He fought some top of the crop guys in K-1. And man .... was he out of his depth. He fought guys like Aerts, Sefo, Bernardo, Le Banner TWICE (who murdered him on both occassions), Satake, Feitosa, Remy Bonjasky ........ completley outgunned in many of the cases.
Also, he is quite possibly the worst example, hands down, of a fighter sticking around WAAAY too long. From 2008 on he lost eight MMA fights and five kickboxing fights, essentially going a most soul crushing 0-13 between the two disciplines in his last 13 career fights. And before that miserable run he accumulated one draw and SEVEN losses in kickboxing, meaning he was an ass-whoopin' 0-12-1 in his last ever 13 kick boxing fights.
That is what fried his brain. Not specifically MMA.
G. Goodridge got KOed mostly in K1 not MMA.
Let's also make cigarettes and alcohol illegal because they cause more damage than every martial art put together
Did not want a history lesson I wanted to know the mental an physical coast MMA has on a life
I remember punching a guy as hard I could in my second streetfight my hand hurt so much which is why I started using hammerfists and palm heel strike more often. I like to think that's why I either won or did damage even if I lost.
In TKD they teach us to throw a palm strike using the body for momentum (hips), so as not to break your hand.
This stuff should be banned. We shouldn't be hurting other human beings.
Here's the only truth about MMA, it exposes styles like Aikido as bs
I doubt you'll even last five seconds against a black belt Aikidoka.
I agree. I'd probably be laughing so hard when he tries to do one of those ridiculous flips on me that I'll pass out because I'd be out of breath.
Seriously though. Aikidokas have no live resistance training whatsoever. Their dancers, not martial artists.
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MMA is the closest you'll get to a street fight. It has the least rules out of any discipline. BJJ is totally legit for self defense. Ive got videos of people using it. Want them?
An aikidoka uses those flips as escapes from winding joint destructions and to avoid face-plants. When the techniques are actually applied in real life they look much messier and result in broken arms, face-plants or the back of the skull smashing against pavement.
Gloves have little to do with fighter getting hit more. Back when the ufc first started. Everyone had a single style. Which means everyone has flaws and the first one to exploit it won and it didn’t take long. Add in the lack of conditioning and skill gaps that exist in a new sport. You get very short fights. Now everyone is conditioned, everyone is well rounded and evenly matched. So it’s harder to finish someone and the fight last long which means more damage. Gloves help add KO power but take away cuts. But most are going to knock you out either way. Gloves just took come of the blood away. It also can’t be ignored that the first events except the first one had no time limits. The first one did but everyone was clueless and no fight with past the first round. Because of that dropped it. So without a limit. There is no finish line you can pace yourself to drag fights out. Your only escape was to finish your opponent.
I couldn't really care less about the self inflicted brain injuries of people who attempt to deliver the same injuries upon others, but I AM more concerned about what it does to us, and says about us as a society that we get pleasure from such brutality.
Yeah, I enjoy the technicality and the athleticism and the tactics, but I'm not into the blood and the injuries.
A little blood is the least of these guys' worries. It just looks brutal to the common person, while brain trauma and certain submissions (such as the twister) can end a career. That's the thing people need to be focusing on, not a little blood and some minor injuries. Fighting is in our DNA, it's been around since the dawn of time. MMA is fucking peanuts compared to the stuff we did in the old days, where there was one man standing while the other lied dead in a pool of his own blood. It's even nothing compared to boxing, where you go 12 rounds and you have 10 seconds to get up so you can get your head bashed in some more. Brain trauma is more brutal than a little blood, just 'cause you can see it doesn't make it more extreme. 13 deaths in MMA, 900-something deaths in boxing. Go figure.
Hence the reason I said "I'm not into the blood AND the injuries".You're preaching to the converted. When assholes like Pelhares are not only applying the most damaging leg locks but holding them far longer than necessary, it's repellent.And yes, boxing is barbaric. 900 deaths huh? So that must equate to hundreds of thousands of cases of brain damage.But just because something is "in our DNA" (and I'm not even sure that I agree with that claim) it doesn't mean that it's acceptable or should be encouraged.
Well, it's exciting, it's raw, and people have found it that way for ages. Take hockey for instance, people go crazy when a fight breaks out. MMA is fighting in a controlled environment where they do everything they can to take care of their fighters and make sure they get the best medical care possible, and they stop the fight immediately if one is not intelligently defending him/herself. Statistics show that it's even much safer than American football, as far as brain trauma goes. Sure, MMA is ranked highest in the number of injuries but that doesn't (unless it's a serious injury, in which it's ranked very low) have a long-term effect on someone's life, like brain trauma does. By the way, did you see Palhares just got wrecked by that Norwegian? Tell me that wasn't satisfying.
I strongly suspect that the reason why people find WATCHING fighting exciting is because humans have developed empathy as a social tool, and when we empathise with two people engaged in common, it causes an adrenaline dump that gives us a rush without the personal risk.
Given that all research now indicates that EVERY impact on the head causes permanent brain damage, I think the fact that it causes LESS brain damage than being slammed by a 300 pound quarterback is scant recommendation! ;-)
I didn't see Palhares getting wrecked, but it delights me to hear that he did. I'm off to find a vid of the fight now. Thanks for that :-)
Honeslty any one who practices martial arts should know that its dangerous.
Thank you for this nice and informative video.
+Kārlis Vladis Rudevičs I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Bare Knuckle is back!!! So I hope it starts taking hold. The.problem is that people will start knuckle conditioning and then can't beak knuckles😕
You do know Boxers and Football players suffer a lot more, MMA is pretty safe bro
u are right
D4Nk t04D It's still a dangerous sport.
edgar brown yeah but like the other guy said boxing & football give you more risks
D4Nk t04D It’s worse than football! Learn sports people!
True, football players are giants running at each other for numerous games throughout the season and can get knocked out BUT in MMA you can also get knocked out viciously and keep getting hit
Martial arts techniques are not toys. What did everyone think would happen when martial arts were used for entertainment purposes?
Excellent video and yes I think as fans we often do not take into account the effects that fighters go through, although boxers seem to suffer a lot more long-term injuries than what MMA fighters suffer maybe that is only because modern MMA is still such a young sport and later down the line we will see the true effect competing in MMA has on the fighters.
I wasn't expecting a very educated video from this kid.....he does AIKIDO....LOL.
Stop spreading this horseshit. Boxing is worse...but football is even worse than boxing. Hmmmm....its repeated blows to the spine and brain in careless training that is so very very bad. MMA is quick and concise with either victory or defeat. Fewer blows are needed to find who is superior.
Just like how I am clearly mentally superior to you. See how that works? K.
Well done, well research, well presented BRAVO
Thanks!
PLEASE FORWARD MY COMMENTS TO THE MMA AUTHORITARIAN BODIES , THANK YOU :
I AGREE WITH YOU ! ! !
Firstly remove ground and pound altogether !
That is the one factor that would absolutely reduce the most volatile and primary risk of extensive brain damage ! ! !
Also introduce a necessary 8 count after a fighter is rocked on his feet !
These are the core factorial changes that would undoubtedly remove the palpable risk of brain damage ! ! !
no holds beared
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The standing 8 count allows a fighter to "recover" and then receive more damage. This can cause way more damage than getting rocked and finished
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Boxing is actually proven in many scientific studies showing that boxers receive much more head trauma and brain damage then an MMA fight during there career. But you never hear anyone talking about that. People single out MMA because of the way it was marketed in the US at first with the whole “two enter one leaves” type of marketing it as being brutal.
He is not mentioning that they also hand picked there opponents that would be easy for the gracies to defeat with there style of fighting catering to there rules . They did not have Karate guys come in there that trained there whole life doing makawari training on there fingers to the point that the tips of there finger were so tough that the practitioner could rip your adams apple right out of your throat . There are people today that can do this . The whole thing was set up from the beginning to cater to the Gracie family . I have nothing against BJJ just like any other art . But a real trained artist does not need gloves . There hands and fingers are like sledge hammers . People would get killed if people trained like this ever entered MMA
They always lunge in with there head pointed at the floor everytime . They should just take the ref out of there and let them kill each other . I dont recall anybody making attempts to ripp the adams apple of there opponent like EVER . IF there is please send this to me I would love to see it . this stuff never was UNTIMATE even in the beginning
Clapping the ears has always been illegal as well as eye pokes and I dont recall even an attempt to break anybodies necks . There is not superior martial art and there is not best martial art . The only thing that will ever prevail is the skill of the individual EVER
Very good point "The only thing that will ever prevail is the skill of the individual EVER". So, what is the best way to hone a skill? Practice it. Practice it with good partners. Practice it under good teachers. Practice it safely. That is why ground fighting is so successful. Its popularity make it superior in finding good schools with good people. Its the easiest way for most people to hone a martial art skill.
In jiujitsu there are neck cracnks, are they not applying pressure to the neck?
Are there ANY recorded instances of your neck breaks and adams apple rips being used....ever?
Vicotnik OK your right nobody ever in the history of the thousands of years of martial arts has ever ripped someone adams apple out EVER . I met a Gracie Black belt that got jumped in manila by three guys . He took one of them down but the other 3 got all his money and they almost killed him . Looks like Gracies are good at the one on one pretty good . Guess against three it has some holes . Anybody who thinks is the best there ever was is nothing but a follower to a fad . Like a new pair of REEBOX or something . Its just a martial art with holes like all others do .
yes everything comes with its own risks however to fight you must be aware of what you're going into and prepared to accept the potential consequences. This isn't just MMA .... it goes for boxing , olympic competitive martial arts, being a fireman and football which has way higher concussion rates than MMA .....
I hate ground and pound in MMA. It is not skillful, not enjoyable to watch, dangerous for the fighter and just stupid overall
well too bad youre wrong about all of that. not skillful? are you fucking mad?
+Mr. Orangeaide
I'm sorry, but it does seem easier to sit on a guy and just hammer with elbows of all your weight, than to do stand up punching, kicking, or to do grappling.
seem being the key word. ive actually done some. hitting someone on top and staying there when theyre really good and fighting off their back is very fucking hard. and even if it isnt skillfull, tough shit welcome to this thing called reality
call me an asshole but i like watching that brutality
Shut your fooking mouth....
Gary Goodridge also got Ko'd over 10 times in kickboxing fights so it isn't accurate to blame just mma.
00:32 It must have been tough fighting such an erect opponent.
I don't understand why mma get all this heat, wouldn't all combat sports that allow striking in the head be equally as dangerous? Just take a look at boxing
So you made 6 min Video just to tell us mma fighters can get serious brain damage ? Every sport which involves striking can give you brain damage it is not a secret. You should change the title in my opinion this is just a clickbait
Modern day gladiators. Did society really care about them throughout history? Does society care about them now? Really the only changes to come about are those that are motivated by politically correct stances.
Hi, my name is Eastern Europe and we just got internet.
A lot of these fighters already have a poor quality of life and that is why they choose to fight. I am looking to start training in mma and I have a sister that is a doctor and she is always informing me of the dangers yet I’d rather fight professionally over feeling like I have no self worth.
None of these costs are "Hidden".
Everyone watching and participating know the costs.
Quit trying to ruin MMA
Jefferton Alive I think MMA fans ruined his Aikido tbh
TheRetroman68 You mean Bullshido?
Gloves would be seemingly safer - Joe Rogan has talked about it before too. Also mimics a real fight a hell of a lot more since people wont let you wrap your wrists/fists
this is Joe Rogan's video on it - which adds to and elaborates on many of the same points
th-cam.com/video/G0uTSZfwggk/w-d-xo.html
nice video. liked
Fighting is so dangerous that there is a punching festival in Bolivia, which produces several deaths every year. The reason Pankration was performed on ancient Olympic games was a ritual sacrifice and not a leisure activity. Even using helmets and many other protections alike may hurt your neck or spine. Take the money from such events and soon people will stop to promoting them, but of course what isn't a business in modern world with a lot of credulous consumers feeding it?
Can you do a brief history of krav maga
+Jack Yammouni I am actually planning to do a series for various martial arts. Next video will be a short history of BJJ. I will look into Krav Maga in the future too. I'm curious, are you personally interested in a historical video about krav maga, or analyzes of a related topic?
RokasLeo
+AikidoSiauliai both
+AikidoSiauliai I'm a Krav maga practitioner here in Brazil. take a look at this web site, www.kravmaga.com.br/languages/eua/index.cfm is from my federation, there you will find a lot of credible information about krav maga. The biggest problem about krav maga today is the fake masters, that's because of the easy moves in krav maga i belive.
+Ryo Razuki thank you
Ryo Razuki Thanks. I'll take a look into it
PLEASE FORWARD MY COMMENTS TO THE MMA AUTHORITARIAN BODIES , THANK YOU :
I AGREE WITH YOU ! ! !
Firstly remove ground and pound altogether !
That is the one factor that would absolutely reduce the most volatile and primary risk of extensive brain damage ! ! !
Also introduce a necessary 8 count after a fighter is rocked on his feet !
These are the core factorial changes that would undoubtedly remove the palpable risk of brain damage ! ! !
man, you've got the sincerity and neutrality of a great teacher, you keep yourself updated with facts and you don't let it all get to your head, i'm happy there are humans like you, thank you for another of your great informational videos
Great video!
If it is scientifically proved that the current rules for MMA fights lead to demonstrable brain damage then the rules should be changed of course.While the rules are not changed consumers should boycot the events which are irresponsible.
Oh shut up,you don't even know what you're tslking about.
Malay subtitles?
Done! I also added Malay subtitles to these videos:
Why did Aikido Loose Popularity - th-cam.com/video/uMz20Z16HFU/w-d-xo.html
Martial Arts History of the World - th-cam.com/video/0RhEmESFJkU/w-d-xo.html
Real Secret of Bruce Lee - th-cam.com/video/S6dTZ7bV_Zs/w-d-xo.html
Greatest Martial Artists - th-cam.com/video/g40CG7LCmhk/w-d-xo.html
And others in this playlist - th-cam.com/play/PL4FJXg8RNp-n4rZxBTdsT7telOasZ3kt4.html
... No I saw malay subtitles in one of the clips
Cerebral Assasin Oh, sorry, that's probably since it's an excerpt from another video which had these subtitles. Were they in the whole video though?
Nah, just sayin. Didn't expect that
The truth is that many of these fighters have no other skills outside of fighting. They do not wish to sit in an office for minimum wage and slave away for 40 years
They signed up for it
That has nothing to do with whether the rules involved should be changed or not for safety/health reasons.
+Nathan Payne Yeah, but if they truly feel unsafe or as if it were too dangerous to them, they can choose not to do it any more.
+Gavin Woodward They could also choose to use their freedom of speech to propose and advocate for policy change.
Gavin Woodward MMA fighters and boxers come from disproportionately poor or underprivileged backgrounds. They are often literally selling their bodies and minds for a way out. Not doing it any more means going back to minimum wage or unemployment in a dangerous environment. Something to think about.
To go out of poverty, a girl sells sexual favors and a boy sells combats. Still the same shit since Romans.
You used an argumentum ad autoritas. Government investigating something doesn't mean what you think it means.
MMA is nothing more than "Organised Barbarism" and this is a logical and predictable consequence. The solution is simple: bring the competition to an end.
Many people complain about how bad the world become, about how vicious and insensitive to pain and hurt school age youth are to bullying and so forth..Then one is informed that this is a Sporting Event and a example of legally sanctioned "Good, Clean, Fun"(as the saying used to go ) then question becomes why wouldn't the youth of the world behave as they do; if Society accepts this as an Acceptable Social Activity.
I believed this and said as much when the Gracies and their Challenge Matches first became popular( In the USA ) back in the 1990s. This comes as no surprise to me.
Go back to chess you pansy. You are clearly a beta male.
So you try to avoid a discussion by labeling your oponent as a "beta male" and therefore dismissing him as a person. This is the cheepest possible reaction and, given the cowarice needed, clearly not even "beta". A real man would have either responded in a polite but straightforward way, pointing out his oponents mistakes, or would not have given a fuck about it. You are surely not what you pretend to be.
WolfRanger2008,
Freedom is concept that all you moral-dictators don´t understand right? Always trying to impose your own view of the things on others. Just because YOU don´t like now everybody has to do what you want, right? And in exchange for what? Your approval as worthy human beings?
Make your homework on the history of humanity and than you will understand that humanity even to this very day always have been barbaric and there are much worse things than MMA that happen every day, like war, economic crisis, etc On the other hand combat sports have never maked problems on humanity and for a lot of people is the only way of income.
You clearly don´t have any idea what real "Organised Barbarism" is. Buddy do your work on history and then learn was freedom is. Bye
please just shut the fuck up
Funny thing is that aggravated assault incidents decreased since the start of the 90s for the first time. And they are decreasing ever since. So if the is a correlation, like you say, it's a positive one 😂
Easy solution
Get rid of ground and pound
No more strikes while using BJJ
Like that.
That would remove an important aspect of realism. It would cease to make guard a “guard” and instead make it a position that you want to be in like competitive bjj
It's spelled and pronounced "no holds BARRED", not bared.
In the beginning, you said...in the early UFCs Royce used mainly his families juijitsu to win.
I dont understand how you can have such a strong public platform, and blatantly get your info wrong. It's to the point, i dont see how it can be accidental.
Btw, All Royce used, was his families juijitsu....period.
That is literally why he was there.. to purely use his families juijitsu against other arts in front of the world. Which is why he wore the gi as well. To 100% represent his families art. Period.