Actually the Kursk is always the first thing that comes to mind when I see or hear "submarine", and was this time as well, even though I've watched a ton of this year's sub disaster coverage.
@@Terszel Yeah, it seems like a poorly thought out exercise, however, tragic as it was, it's a learning experience. Piloting a sub around fishing vessels... you need to avoid the nets. The solution they apparently used was just to stay out of the fishing area.
I am a retired submariner, and spent the last several years of my career as a QA Supervisor at a submarine maintenance facility. You may know that the sinking of the Thresher brought about the SUBSAFE program which imposed strict controls on the construction and maintenance of seawater systems on submarines. Enforcing that program and its standards was my job. I can say that since the Thresher was lost and the SUBSAFE program was implemented, the US Navy has not lost one single boat due to a material failure or improper maintenance. I went to test depth in deep dive boats many times in my career, and I never felt I was in danger. The loss of the Thresher was not in vain. All who had loved ones on the Thresher have my condolences, but the safety of generations of submariners that followed is their legacy.
Thank you. The channel made itself look non-credible by being vague on something that should have been detailed. The way it was presented made it sound like an urban legend instead of something with a grain of truth to it.
Thank you... can't believe he went to all the effort to make this video just to state "the submarine"... a little more information would've been nice lol
Im a US Sub Sailor. I was told that the high pressure air lines that blow the balast tanks froze up after they blew the tanks and couldnt get the balast doors to close after that which aided in the Threshers sinking. There was moisture in the high pressure air lines and of course when high pressure air goes rapidly to low pressure, it gets very cold. Cold enough to freeze water in an instant. This is why dessicant is now used for the high pressure air lines in subs.
Brick Immortar does a FANTASTIC job on this topic, among many others. I quite enjoy this creator, as he seems like a less-technical version of Brick. If you’d like a more in depth look, it’s definitely worth the time!!!
I'm a US Sub sailor myself, albeit many years ago and we were told the same info about Thresher also, which in turn was the development of the " Subsafe" program .
My maternal grandfather, Lieutenant Merrill Collier, was one of the officers who went down with the Thresher. He left behind my grandmother and three young children, including my 6 year old mother and my unborn uncle. Thank you for covering this with such respect; it is a devastating accident that wounded my mother and her family for life, along with all the families of the crew. Edit: Thank you to everyone for your kind hearts and well wishes; they mean so much ♥️ And to those here who don't believe me; that's okay. I know it is true, that's all that matters, and I don't wish anyone ill for their cruel comments. I'm simply sharing my story. Best wishes to all!
My paternal grandfather, Lt. Philip Allen, was one of the unfortunate victims of this heartbreaking disaster. It still pains my dad up to this day. The pain of losing his father with little memory of him was one of his angst in his teenage years. Thank you for covering this case with much respect and dedication. You are giving justice to the families of the lost men on the thresher tragedy.
i listened to an interview with an HMS Belfast crewman describing the sinking of the scharnhorst and the horror he describes of the ship alive in flames made him feel pity for the enemy as that wasn't a death he wished upon anyone. there was also a british submarine that sank in the thames estuary as they didn't have DSV's at this point all the crew could do was wait for the air to run out and suffocate to death. that is true horror.
@@gregorturner4753 You've mixed up two disasters there. HMS Truculent sank in the Thames estuary but the majority of fatalities were hypothermia caused by the crew abandoning the sub before help arrived. HMS Thetis sank in Liverpool docks and over 100 crew and shipbuilders suffocated when the second person to use the one-man airlock panicked and drowned leaving no other way for people to escape safely.
It was discovered in the USS Thresher disaster that they were unable to blow the ballast tanks because the air lines for the emergency air became blocked with ice. There were filter screens inside the lines meant to keep debris out of the tanks. When they tried an emergency blow of the ballast tanks, the air moved through the filter screens so fast it caused condensation to form on them which accumulated and froze eventually becoming ice plugs. It's sad when a disaster is the result of misfortunate events.
Thank you - I was about to comment this very fact. The US nuclear sub whose cause for sinking is still unknown is the USS Scorpion - it hasn't been determined if it was an accidental torpedo explosion or hydrogen explosion during a battery charge.
Yep, im a US Sub Sailor and thats exactly what happened. I believe this was before they started using dessicant for the high pressure air lines. All subs use dessicant now to absorb any moisture that might be in the HPA lines because of what happened to the Thresher.
Holy crap...The last story is absolutely frightening. That the sub did not have any kind of equipment that would make it able to assess correctly the situation is frightingly shocking - I would never have thought this could happen.
Yes, what should have been acted upon were the activities of any known vessels in their working area. It should have been explicitly known about the surrounding fishing vessels and the potential hazards which anyone might engage, which would or will result in possible disaster.
@@silentdeath7847 I'm surprised that the trawl line is that strong and the structure of the boat didn't even break. Such well made boat, its probably still catching fish to this day, even after it catched the biggest "fish" in the oceans.
@@jnawk83 Goes to show how truly big and heavy these subs are. Like a semi pulling a car with the brakes applies, wouldn't even notice it unless you can see it.
My father had an incident with a british submarine back in the 80s, he was trawling with another boat and towing the nets between the two vessels when it got snagged and both boats got pulled backward a few hundred feet. Tore the nets apart, and only for that, they would have both sunk. When he went a shore he was telling other fishermen what happened. Most thought he was cracked, but the story did the rounds, and someone he knew contacted him to say he suspected or had seen a british sub being cleard of or dragging fishing nets (not sure on this part), around the same time. The Sheralga was also an Irish fishing vessel sunk in the Irish sea by the birtish Navy. The crew had to be rescued by other vessels in the area and submarine left without lending assistance or acknowledgement of the event ever happening. Took the crew 4 years to receive anything by way of compensation for loss of the boat and livelihoods.
@@Here_is_Waldoever consider the boat had no idea it had even happened until someone started bitching about it? Modern missile boats weigh thousands of tonnes. Wouldnt even notice nets.
As someone who lives on the west coast of Scotland overlooking the Isle of Arran I absolutely remember the boat getting dragged down by the submarine. My brother in law worked on the fishing boats & it brought it all home how awful this was. Those poor men on that boat. It was & is just heartbreaking ❤😢
A member of my family was sadly part of the Antares crew. I was only a toddler at the time but growing up it was said the boat was pulled under in around 17 seconds. That's how little time they had. RIP to all lost ❤🏴
1:08 can I just mention how thoughtful it was of you to give a little description there for the people who are only listening? I often just listen to stories like this while doing other things, it was very appreciated
their new Scary Interesting Podcast is great for this! the stories don't rely on maps and diagrams and are just as intriguing as the yt channel. highly recommended if you haven't downloaded them already.
For him to do that he is a Hero. For you to mention it instead of talk crap to people like me for mentioning it....well. It must mean you're a god. Also it's F*****G annoying to no end when people post videos with translated subtitles instead of having them audibly translated even with the stupid free robot voice. Especially the billion dollar companies like News or Nat'Geo' or whatever. I can't stand that.
Just wanted to give you a “thanks” for describing what the picture of the eddy looked like. Most of the time, I’ve got you on while working (I’m an artist) and having a description really helps me follow along without having to put down what I’m doing and rewind.
I work a very repetitive factory job and also want to say thanks for the image descriptions. I’m not supposed to be ‘watching’ anything to begin with, but audio is fine.
I remember them doing tests back in the 90s, to figure out why certain ships were just 'lost' without any call for help. One of the reasons was methane gas bursts from the ocean floor. Methane is not as dense as water, and as such, a ship caught in a funnel (burst) of this gas, would sink as fast as if it were falling through air, and even a ship traveling next to it, would not be affected, nor would it hear the disappearance of that ship. There would be hardly a splash, and the unfortunate ship would be on the bottom, then crushed by the returning pressure.
I’m glad you mentioned the gas bubble thing. If the methane release is large enough, it completely compromises a ships buoyancy and as long as the ship remains in that tunnel of gas from the ocean floor, it will continue to fall like a stone; faster than it would sink if it were just inundated with water. It would likely seem otherworldly to anyone who didn’t have any knowledge of this phenomenon. No doubt it was as terrifying as it was deadly. God bless those souls lost as sea!
@@krashd now you escalated the situation. One ship drops like a rock, the next is eaten by a meg, and what next? The ship following them hits a time vortex?
Wow, this is crazy. I had no idea that eddies could get so big. That is terrifying. Also the fact that a submarine could drag a fishing boat under in seconds without even realizing.
Look up ocean gyres. Not really eddies, more of a stable whirl, but much larger. As example: The gulf stream flows up north on the north american atlantic coast, transitions into the north atlantic current and crosses the ocean eastwards. One arch twists off and flows south along Spain and Africa as canary current, at the equator it turns west again as north equatorial current to return to the gulf. Basically one large circle the size of an ocean.
the dangers of the sea. Submarines can't see what's out there very well, and especially nets are almost impossible to detect. There was no way for them to know the nets were there, and their passive sonar set would not have given them more than a rough estimate of where the fishing boats were. Due to the trawling pattern, it was also not known to the submarine that there were more than 2 fishing boats out there, so when they saw 2 of them they thought nothing of it as old nets float into the paths of ships all the time, causing problems that often require divers to go into the water and cut away the nets.
That you would cjhose to believe the crew of a navy submarine would be reckless and dangerous is, in itself, dissappointing. That young officer in tempory command of the submarine may well have ended his career. Did he do anything reckless? ...Dangerous? I don't think so. It would appear he did all possible due diligence for the safe operation of his vessal.....But, he didn't see what could not be seen. A tragedy all the way around.
Was wondering when you’d cover the thresher. Was really rough reading the Navy report released a few years back on possible attempts to communicate distress from Thresher’s crew after losing power. Even with SUBSAFE making the sub force one of the safest in the world, the nerves it takes to be a submariner can’t be put into words.
It's been on the list for a while, but I think there are already far better videos out there on the incident. It just happened to compliment this set of stories as a brief overview
@@ScaryInteresting Yeah, we'll probably never know for sure. I personally suspect Thresher was lost because a problem got improperly diagnosed. IE what they thought was minor... wasn't.
@@marhawkman303 I think it's simply how it was communicated. You'd rather want to call the problem "minor" initially until you know the full extent of it instead of calling it "a major problem", then finding out it was not that bad and later being nicknamed Captain Chickenheart or something. "Attempting to blow" is actually a clear indication that they knew rather well the problem was far from being minor. Blowing main ballast tanks is an emergency procedure and you don't do it for just a minor problem, but it is believed that the failure of the ballast tank blow system was what really screwed them over, resulting in "substantial redesign of submarine emergency blow systems by the United States Navy".
Actually, what I have been wondering about Thresher is why they wouldn't carry out initial dive tests in an area where the ocean depth doesn't exceed crush depth, just in case. It would've worked as a fail-safe, dropping to the sea floor in a survivable depth would've given the crew those extra minutes they needed to fix the problem.
@TTFerdinand Exactly my thought as well. For initial tests, conduct the dives in shallow water so in case anything bad happens, they'd only be in water with maximum approximately 1000 feet deep, so that if they lost all ballast control, at worst, they'd settle on three sea floor below at 1000 feet or whatever, making rescue much easier and thus crew survival likelihood much higher. Why the navy thought it smart to do this initial test in 12,000 feet of open ocean, with no floor to stop the Thresher from sinking miles down, seems really stupid in hindsight.
I live right on the firth of Clyde and have watched many of these submarines resurface after exercises and had no idea of this event. Thank you for telling the story.
@@lydiaspiros3987 I really hate water in the ears, but after that, I'm fine. The part I struggled with in the beginning is that the hips have to be forward enough. Saltwater is also more buoyant, which helps.
There's no confusion about what happened to the Thresher. It sunk and created the SubSafe program. The Emergency Blow system and condensation so when High Pressure Air was released the pipes froze. That is why outside of the Scorpion, no other U.S. Submarine was lost.. Outside of that, love the video. :)
Wow. Absolutely amazing that that first sub survived the eddy. I do place responsibility on the captain. That had to have been the most traumatizing experience any of those crew members ever experienced. Thank goodness they made it out.
The thought of being cramped up in a submarine down in the depths of the ocean is incredibly overwhelming so I can't imagine what that must be like to step aboard one for the first time and ultimately be taken down far below the surface. Even if it were their "career" choice and something they really wanted to do, that first time has to be pretty unsettling.
You ever watched "Down periscope"? I like the scene where the engine guy tapes a string across the two walls as they're doing a depth test dive, the string is sagging more and more from the walls being squeezed together from the pressure. And that was in a WW2 sub, and the deepest that one could safely go was only around 600 feet near the of the war. Now they dive to 1,600 feet - that's what the unclassified depth is anyway. My scariest moment on a surface ship was going 300 miles off course to avoid a hurricane, got caught between two of them. I'm standing in the engine room, with one foot on the deck the other on the bulkhead, watching the inclinometer (a little pendulum that measures the roll degree of the ship) that has a red mark at the 63° mark, the terminal roll point - hit that and we're belly up, and the pointer is sitting there vibrating at the 62.25° line for about 5 seconds. You have NO idea how long 5 seconds is.
I grew up in a town about twenty minutes from the ocean, and my high school PE class had a unit where we practiced treading water in the 12 ft diving section of the pool; the instructors taught us how to make basic flotation devices out of our clothes, and the final for that unit was to jump into the deep water with all your clothes on, and keep yourself afloat for thirty minutes without relying on anyone else in the water or just floating on your back. If the instructors saw you floating, they'd have you get out, rest, and then do it *again*. I live less than a mile from the ocean now, and even knowing how to escape a riptide, how to make an emergency flotation device, and being a strong swimmer, I still never turn my back on the water. The ocean is unforgiving, and I'm not about to take the chance that she decides today is the day I die, lol.
@@raeoverhere923 That’s interesting that you mention survival tactics for the Atlantic. I never realized just how different the Pacific and Atlantic are; and now I can see how they may be different.
@@Habanero_Chi Having never been to the east coast, it's hard to tell how similar or different they are, but the coastline where I live is rocky and cold, and is on a shark migration route. I've always heard the Atlantic is a little more placid, and even a little warmer than the Pacific, but I bet up in the northeast, the ocean acts much more like it does here.
I can relate to that first hand. Having escaped with my life by the skin of my teeth, a few times. Though being a less than average swimmer. Water gives life and lots of water will take it right back. Finally I'll add , there is no problem until you discover you're hip deep in a disaster and you may not have a second to spare; or less.
My son served on a fast attack sub for three years and it's funny how many Vets of all branches will say "I could never do that" The Silent Service really are unsung heroes
Only Americans go on and on and on and on and on ... about people in the armed forces being heros. And you can't say "unsung" cos you all sing it loud and clear all the time. In others countries, its teachers, doctors and firemen etc. who are heros, not those who sign up to wage war on people in other countries who haven't even attacked you.
The fact that the military makes mistakes like this trainings is ridiculous honestly how hard would it be to warn people that they are doing a training exercise
You mean something like... *"On the following date(s) the Royal Navy will be carrying out training at the following co-ordinates. PS. If you are Russian please forget you read this"*
Lol, not televised, nor sent in the mail... more like a smaller boat policing the area keeping tabs on everyone and informing them off what was happening
The way you build the suspense reminds me of classic horror literature. Each paragraph feels like a descent into the unknown, and I can't help but keep turning the pages. Well done!
By the way, I just wanted to say that I really love the intro to your videos. Others might see it as a scary forest but to me, it looks just like the forests where I grew up and that gives me a really warm and nostalgic feeling every time I sit down and start watching one of your videos. Those straight tall deciduous trees, the fog and the road visible in the canopy, so cosy and beautiful. I hope others agree! 0:18
I served on the USS Pollack (SSN 603). We had a hydraulic pump with the Thresher’s brass nameplate on it. The Pollack was launched in 62 and commissioned in 64. The Thresher went down in 63. When Thresher was getting ready for sea trials following overhaul, she had a broken hydraulic pump. To meet the sea trials schedule they swapped out Thresher’s pump with the Pollack’s pump, since the Pollack was still under new construction. Thresher went down and Pollack kept her pump and repaired it. The brass nameplate was still on the pump when I served on Pollack.
The H. M. S. Charybdis was a Royal Navy vessel, a Leander-class frigate, not a fishing boat. They were there to play sub-killer as part of the exercise and assisted with the search and rescue attempt afterward. I'd suspect that's why they were named th Charybdis in the first place - the all-devouring demigod is a pretty intimidating name for a warship. Sadly it was sunk in 1993 for target practice, having been in service a little under 30 years.
1979 I was on a US Submarine near Scotland and on a Sunday Morning at 0630 we got caught in heavy steel cable fishing nets.I remember that sound.we broke free and went south to surface and had a bent Screw and a cable wrapped around it along with a huge scar on the top of the Sub. that incident was very expensive to repair but there were no casualties on that Fishing Boat.Thank God for that.
@@Drainman What a totally strange reply. They lost nets that could be very expensive and important to their livelihood. You, my man, lost nothing at all, did you ? Who is paying your million dollars in damage ? Not you! Maybe the taxpayer or an insurance company, so think again. If you were a private person doing your business, you would rather hope that the US navy with all it's modern technology would be able to avoid such an incident and would certainly recompense anyone caught up in a mistake. What an attitude ...
@@gaz8891 You are so uneducated on this subject as those waters have mountains sixty feet below the surface so to remain undetected which was the reason we Won the Cold War with our forty one for Freedom Submarines so you should appreciate your freedoms as it was Sailors like myself who gave you the right to speak freely and PS what we had to lose was our lives as there is no escaping a sinking Sub where as you can abandon a sinking ship.
I think if I was in charge of test diving a submarine, I'd probably do it where the water depth was a little less than the crush depth of said sub, but that's just me lol.
In 1971 on submarine USS Theodore Roosevelt we were cruising at 170 ft on an exercise and suddenly our stern planes jammed on hard dive. We pitched down at at least 35 deg down angle and within 40 seconds or so were at 600 ft! The hull was popping and snapping as the steel bent, guys eyes were as big as saucers as we held on for dear life! Thankfully the training in the control rm took over and the Diving officer ordered all back emergency, and we managed to pull ourselves back out of the dive, and eventually surfaced. Once back in Charleston SC naval weapons station, we reviewed the charts and saw this happened right smack in the middle of the bermuda triangle! Cause turned out to be failed electro hydraulic valve that jammed on dive. Aged a bit that day!!
I’m an east coaster (now Aberdeen, from Moray, Buckie area) and grew up with the sea being about 40 metres from our house, grew up around boats, my stepdad taught so much boat safety and safety around the sea and was always grateful for this. The sea is unforgiving, it’s vast, massively unexplored, has god knows how many secrets, you need to be extremely safe around the sea. Learning about Antares was horrifying, I saw so many fishing trawlers as a kid as Buckie was full of them but we aren’t near a submarine trench like Bute Sound so it never occurred to me one of the dangers of fishing could be getting dragged under the sea by an unseen force like a sub. The sea by itself is massively unforgiving, I hadn’t considered that mankind could somehow turn that into nightmare fuel.
I love listening to your videos while playing video games and I really appreciate the audio descriptions. I also really like the editing and images that you use when I do watch them.
Operationally, subs are generally blind as bats compared to surface vessels, so mixing an exercise below with those routine fishing activities above was just playing Queen's roulette. And given previous incidents, the Royal Navy was well aware of that.
I've heard each of these stories before but I'm saving this one, because the gravitas you bring to your storytelling, and the way you deliver the information makes them something special. Thank you, and keep up the phenomenal work!
If you want to picture how the titan ppl died. Picture a scene where someone gets sucked out of a ship into space. Now imagine its that tiny sub and the hole is the size of a 3/4 " socket. Picture your entire body sucked thru that little hole in a nano second while the pressure equalized. Now Picture the other ppl being sucked thru at the same time. Inside whole body, outside pasta sauce. That is terrifying.
1:05 Bro! I have seen it ! While traveling from Eastern Kingdoms to Kalimdor. I took the ship from Menethil to Theramore Isle and I did see that maelstrom vortex into the distance. Terrifying
Just wanted to say how much I enjoy your channel and the podcasts. The time and effort you put into everything you release shines through. Not to mention, you have such a fantastic voice for narration.
The Perisher course was (and still is) crazy. Captains of the anti-submarine surface ships were authorized to attempt to ram the submarines at periscope depth in order to stress out the command candidates.
That last story honestly sounds like it could be a villain origin story, imagine surviving that catastrophe only to realise that it only happened because someone else was careless and oblivious to your presence?
Absolutely love your channel. I got into your videos when I had to put my dog down this past summer and for some reason seeing all the horrible things that have happened to other people helped me feel a little better. Kinda fucked up, but clearly I'm not alone. Thank you for the content, I'm definitely gonna check out the podcast soon.
I often go fishing in Long Island Sound right near a submarine plant. In the USA, there's small surface boats that zip around where the sub is and keep all other vessels very far away from it! Really cool to see a sub surface from a distance... However it wasn't always like that. My great aunt one time poked a periscope with an oar, probably in like the 70's or 80's lol really cool video, the last story was an absolute gut punch. I've gotten fishing line stuck on something that wouldn't stop moving and it nearly pulled me in; a whole boat, I'd be scared to death!
the story behind the K-129 Russian submarine is also insane. Everything about it is crazy. Where it was lost, the partial recovery, the videos of the burial, the fact it had nukes on board, the extra crew, the theories behind what happened. You could make an entire video about that. look up the book Red star Rogue very interesting to read
Well, it was the cold war, so of course they were always carrying nukes. Unless they were only attack pure attack submarines to attack other subs, all Soviet subs were always carrying nukes. But the position would only be odd. If the sub was REALLY not supposed to be in that area. The Russian would never ever admit that they were maybe trying to spy on Pearl Harbor or get close to itso they would of course deny it. Even if they knew the sub was supposed to be in the general area. And with no constant communication it's quite possible that the sub might have had technical difficulties (with it's communications) and continued it's journey for a while before it sunk due to another technical problem. The Kursk sunk due to a faulty torpedo during an exercise. So K-129 having a similar fate is plausible. They were on a mission to spy near Pear Harbor maybe to look on where would be the perfect spot to launch nukes in case of a full scale war. They had a problem before or after they completed the mission to spy. - communication failed -They tried to get back home Because what else could they do ? Surface and wait for the Americans to come and help them and spy a bit on the sub ? - propulsion still worked so the CO ordered the ship to head home submerged since the problem appears to be under control albeit damaged. - the problem got bigger or the propulsion failed. - problem is so severe that the sub can't surface any longer - sub sinks below crush depth - Soviet navy has no clue where exactly the sub is since they lost contact with the sub for quite some time and they are looking at the wrong place And they can't confess to the Americans that the sub might be mich much closer to Hawaii. So they look on the wrong spot hoping that they sub would be there to prevent any shame in front of the US. So a sort of similar chain of events as the Kursk. I don't think that "red star rogue" was accurate. K-219 K-141 Ans USS Thresher proved that defects do sink subs.
I'm sorry when the Titan is talked about in a serious note it makes me laugh even more than if it were a meme so I got a chuckle out right at the beginning of the video
Tragic tales, but so provocative and fascinating. I used to work for the merchant navy, where conditions are (still) absolutely shocking. The flag of Liberia is not the only dubious flag. I'm going to listen to this one again. Thank you from Ruth x
Imagine how strong the lines are that allow a sub to grab a boat and quickly pull it under. I guess I'd always assumed that either the lines were weaker, or that there had been safety points designed in that serve as a trip for these lines to break away when the ship is at risk. Let's say the net wraps around rocks on the bottom and it's a tangled mess. How would the ship free itself and why wouldn't that same system be useful when tangled with a submarine?
Brave brave men, locking themselves inside an airtite metal tube, sinking into a black abyss at crushing depth is insanity! I wonder how many discovered they couldn't handle it and went a little cray-cray? Impossible to not think about where your at when the sub is snapping and popping, theres no fresh air, the smells omg!🤢..I would most definitely lose my sh*t!
Submarines freak me out. Just can’t fathom the bravery it takes to make it a career. I salute them and these brave men and women are the heroes we should raise up in society, not the entitled weaklings all over the entertainment and social media industries.
"Abyss", a movie from 1987. I am not afraid of the ocean, but there is one scene in the movie where the sub "sink down" that is so strong that my stomach sank too. Never saw it again, never forgot it.
If you jump into the sea (with a mask, snorkel, and fins) away from where you can see land, on a sunny day, where the bottom is at least 1,500' deep, the experience is incredible. You can't see the bottom; instead you just see beams of sunlight flickering through the water into the darkness of the abyss. As you look down into the deep, you feel like you're falling and there is a little panic that sets in, but if you get past that it feels like you're actually flying - it's an incredible feeling! But here's the thing - don't stay in the water playing around for long, because 1,000 feet below you there is some massive sea creature watching you. And because you're at the surface it knows you breathe only air, which means you're no longer at the top of the food chain anymore, but instead you're at the very bottom of it; and that creature is giving serious thought to eating you. When I worked on a sportfishing boat guests would often ask me how deep the water was; I'd reply, "it's over your head, so nothing else about that matters". They guests would laugh, thinking I was just being cheeky - but I wasn't; I was being dead serious.
I was a rescue swimmer in the navy and we did a little practice using the j davit in the middle of the Indian Ocean. I was swimming in the most beautiful water then tried to focus on something really deep ( never saw it, probably a fish) but all of a sudden I got so scared. Like claustrophobic but opposite too much for me to comprehend. I just stared at the dummy concentrated and hyperventilated all the way back to the ship. It took a long time to tell someone but then found out it wasn’t uncommon at all. I didn’t get to the flying part. Maybe if I hadn’t panicked.
Reading your comment, u made my imagination wonder. I know there is all kinds of terrifying sea creatures somewhere in the deep, dark, abyss. What do u think this massive creature is? A shark? Octopus? Squid?
Since the accident with the trawler they have been affixing sonar pingers to the nets to alert the submarines of their locations. The commanders now have a much better chance of tracking and avoiding the fishing boats.
These themed collections of stories are really engrossing, particularly when you weave them all together the way you did here. What's especially horrifying about the final story is how it demonstrates that, in this era of the military-industrial complex, any of us can simply be swept aside or crushed by the military behemoths which dominate our societies, and they'll barely register us as anything more than a couple of bumps in the night.
If what is said on Wikipedia is true, the video omitted a scary detail of the Antares sinking. When the wreckage of the ship was found, three bodies were recovered near the wreck. The fourth body wasn't found until four months later when it was discovered in a trawler net from a fishing boat. I can't even imagine the shock of the crew when they discovered the waterlogged, decayed remains of a person in their catch.
The Antares story is just so sad... an enitre boat being pulled down by a net, killing ever crew member because it just happened too fast -- now THAT makes me scared of the ocean
I'm surprised the fishing nets didn't have some emergency release on them. The cable tension difference between "strong enough to pull a net" and the crazy "literally pulls the ship under" has to be a big enough range to permit a failsafe release right? 🤔
Or that the cable or ropes would break, jesus thats horrible. I read another comment that they were pulled under in 17 seconds, thats so fast you cant do anything wow 😔
I love watching stories like this, I have a macabre interest. But I also have anxiety, and catastrophize easily-- I even it out by only watching videos about diving/caving/underwater accidents, because I know I'm never going anywhere near those things, and I know no one who does either lmao.
O.55 in and my fear of deep water has basically quadrupled, jesus Haven't been here in a bit but nice to see the quality just keeps on improving. Well done Scary Interesting
My dad was in the navy on submarines and just the training he had to go through gave me nightmares as a kid. Talking about swimming to the surface of this like 300ft deep pool on a single breath hold as a training drill to escape in case something happened. Otherwise you’d just drown
This isn't physically possible btw. For one 300ft is far into narc territory and 200ft below decompression depth. In addition, a full breath hold at 300 ft will kill you by 250ft most likely. 50ft of air expanding in your lungs if you took the air at pressure or the immediate compression of 300 ft from no compression would make your full breath nearly nothing. It's hard to get from 30ft to the surface on a single breath and it's definitely not something you would train to do. if they said 30 ft it's possible but not 300. that's 100M and you'd be very positively buoyant which would accelerate the decompression issues. Even if you made it to the surface alive you'd die from the bends. For example when technical divers exceed 100ft they usually don't use regular air, they switch to nitrox or a trimix including helium to avoid narcosis and to keep their PO2 from exceeding 1.6 max.
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So I assume that everyone else's mind was brought to the recent incident when that notification popped up?
For sure 🧠
The five guys titanic doordash?
No, my mind was brought to arc survival after I saw your profile
no shit.
Actually the Kursk is always the first thing that comes to mind when I see or hear "submarine", and was this time as well, even though I've watched a ton of this year's sub disaster coverage.
You were 100% right. Of all of the horrors of the ocean, I've never imagined a submarine dragging a boat under by getting caught in a net
It's like Moby Dick, but a metal whale.
Seems kinda ridiculous a military training exercise being run in a populated area
Why would you run an exercise on easy mode. The hard part is avoiding boats
@@Terszel Yeah, it seems like a poorly thought out exercise, however, tragic as it was, it's a learning experience. Piloting a sub around fishing vessels... you need to avoid the nets. The solution they apparently used was just to stay out of the fishing area.
It happened regularly around the British coastline.
Fishing boats being dragged down by their nets by subs....
I am a retired submariner, and spent the last several years of my career as a QA Supervisor at a submarine maintenance facility. You may know that the sinking of the Thresher brought about the SUBSAFE program which imposed strict controls on the construction and maintenance of seawater systems on submarines. Enforcing that program and its standards was my job. I can say that since the Thresher was lost and the SUBSAFE program was implemented, the US Navy has not lost one single boat due to a material failure or improper maintenance. I went to test depth in deep dive boats many times in my career, and I never felt I was in danger. The loss of the Thresher was not in vain. All who had loved ones on the Thresher have my condolences, but the safety of generations of submariners that followed is their legacy.
Good man
For anyone curious since the video author didn’t state it, the first story is about Chinese Submarine 372 in case you’d like to do further reading
THIS!!!!! EXACTLY THIS!!!!! Guy just fucking said nothing like a moron.
Thank you!
Thank you. The channel made itself look non-credible by being vague on something that should have been detailed. The way it was presented made it sound like an urban legend instead of something with a grain of truth to it.
Thank you... can't believe he went to all the effort to make this video just to state "the submarine"... a little more information would've been nice lol
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Im a US Sub Sailor. I was told that the high pressure air lines that blow the balast tanks froze up after they blew the tanks and couldnt get the balast doors to close after that which aided in the Threshers sinking. There was moisture in the high pressure air lines and of course when high pressure air goes rapidly to low pressure, it gets very cold. Cold enough to freeze water in an instant. This is why dessicant is now used for the high pressure air lines in subs.
Brick Immortar does a FANTASTIC job on this topic, among many others. I quite enjoy this creator, as he seems like a less-technical version of Brick. If you’d like a more in depth look, it’s definitely worth the time!!!
Came here to say this
I'm a US Sub sailor myself, albeit many years ago and we were told the same info about Thresher also, which in turn was the development of the " Subsafe" program .
My maternal grandfather, Lieutenant Merrill Collier, was one of the officers who went down with the Thresher. He left behind my grandmother and three young children, including my 6 year old mother and my unborn uncle. Thank you for covering this with such respect; it is a devastating accident that wounded my mother and her family for life, along with all the families of the crew.
Edit: Thank you to everyone for your kind hearts and well wishes; they mean so much ♥️ And to those here who don't believe me; that's okay. I know it is true, that's all that matters, and I don't wish anyone ill for their cruel comments. I'm simply sharing my story. Best wishes to all!
Wow. I'm so sorry for your loss and the impact it had on your family. Thank you for sharing your story.
@@ScaryInteresting Thank you. I truly appreciate and love your channel 🙏🏻♥️
Ur Granddad was a hero who gave his life in service to his country. As a veteran, im proud to call him my brother N arms.
I’m so sorry for your loss. Thank you for his service and sacrifice; and the sacrifice your family has endured.
@@outlawandoutdoorstv9901 Thank you so much for your service 🙏🏻
My paternal grandfather, Lt. Philip Allen, was one of the unfortunate victims of this heartbreaking disaster. It still pains my dad up to this day. The pain of losing his father with little memory of him was one of his angst in his teenage years. Thank you for covering this case with much respect and dedication. You are giving justice to the families of the lost men on the thresher tragedy.
There’s another commenter whose grandfather was also present there. You two should speak.
i listened to an interview with an HMS Belfast crewman describing the sinking of the scharnhorst and the horror he describes of the ship alive in flames made him feel pity for the enemy as that wasn't a death he wished upon anyone. there was also a british submarine that sank in the thames estuary as they didn't have DSV's at this point all the crew could do was wait for the air to run out and suffocate to death. that is true horror.
@@a.evelyn5498this dude is obviously lying for internet points
@@gregorturner4753 You've mixed up two disasters there. HMS Truculent sank in the Thames estuary but the majority of fatalities were hypothermia caused by the crew abandoning the sub before help arrived. HMS Thetis sank in Liverpool docks and over 100 crew and shipbuilders suffocated when the second person to use the one-man airlock panicked and drowned leaving no other way for people to escape safely.
Sorry for your loss
It was discovered in the USS Thresher disaster that they were unable to blow the ballast tanks because the air lines for the emergency air became blocked with ice. There were filter screens inside the lines meant to keep debris out of the tanks. When they tried an emergency blow of the ballast tanks, the air moved through the filter screens so fast it caused condensation to form on them which accumulated and froze eventually becoming ice plugs. It's sad when a disaster is the result of misfortunate events.
Interesting (though terrible in its effect).
Scary
And the filters were supposed to be removed before going to sea.
Thank you - I was about to comment this very fact. The US nuclear sub whose cause for sinking is still unknown is the USS Scorpion - it hasn't been determined if it was an accidental torpedo explosion or hydrogen explosion during a battery charge.
Yep, im a US Sub Sailor and thats exactly what happened. I believe this was before they started using dessicant for the high pressure air lines. All subs use dessicant now to absorb any moisture that might be in the HPA lines because of what happened to the Thresher.
Holy crap...The last story is absolutely frightening. That the sub did not have any kind of equipment that would make it able to assess correctly the situation is frightingly shocking - I would never have thought this could happen.
Yes, what should have been acted upon were the activities of any known vessels in their working area. It should have been explicitly known about the surrounding fishing vessels and the potential hazards which anyone might engage, which would or will result in possible disaster.
i cant understand how the additional load goes unnoticed
@@jnawk83 i know right 😂 dragging a fishing boat under water got to create allot of drag
@@silentdeath7847 I'm surprised that the trawl line is that strong and the structure of the boat didn't even break. Such well made boat, its probably still catching fish to this day, even after it catched the biggest "fish" in the oceans.
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Goes to show how truly big and heavy these subs are. Like a semi pulling a car with the brakes applies, wouldn't even notice it unless you can see it.
My father had an incident with a british submarine back in the 80s, he was trawling with another boat and towing the nets between the two vessels when it got snagged and both boats got pulled backward a few hundred feet. Tore the nets apart, and only for that, they would have both sunk. When he went a shore he was telling other fishermen what happened. Most thought he was cracked, but the story did the rounds, and someone he knew contacted him to say he suspected or had seen a british sub being cleard of or dragging fishing nets (not sure on this part), around the same time. The Sheralga was also an Irish fishing vessel sunk in the Irish sea by the birtish Navy. The crew had to be rescued by other vessels in the area and submarine left without lending assistance or acknowledgement of the event ever happening. Took the crew 4 years to receive anything by way of compensation for loss of the boat and livelihoods.
Well, of course. When does the military ever admit to being in the wrong?
It's almost like every government has its own corruption. Just goes to show people will generally take advantage of others given the chance. Sad.
@@Here_is_Waldoever consider the boat had no idea it had even happened until someone started bitching about it?
Modern missile boats weigh thousands of tonnes. Wouldnt even notice nets.
The British view anyone with good teeth with hatred. Probably why they didnt stop, tea time beckons. E
@@MosesNosenberghave you ever been outside your parents' basement?
As someone who lives on the west coast of Scotland overlooking the Isle of Arran I absolutely remember the boat getting dragged down by the submarine. My brother in law worked on the fishing boats & it brought it all home how awful this was. Those poor men on that boat. It was & is just heartbreaking ❤😢
A member of my family was sadly part of the Antares crew. I was only a toddler at the time but growing up it was said the boat was pulled under in around 17 seconds. That's how little time they had. RIP to all lost ❤🏴
RIP to your family member... I'm sorry that he lost his life like that.
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I’m so sorry for your family’s loss. (Now prepare for the trolls to come in and say you’re lying. 🙄🙄)
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1:08 can I just mention how thoughtful it was of you to give a little description there for the people who are only listening? I often just listen to stories like this while doing other things, it was very appreciated
their new Scary Interesting Podcast is great for this! the stories don't rely on maps and diagrams and are just as intriguing as the yt channel. highly recommended if you haven't downloaded them already.
@@emmaschneider3638Noted 🫡
what other things?
@@will.green. Cleaning around the house, playing games, etc
Providing a narrative description of visuals for those listening, but not watching, is an exceptional, professional move. Well done.
For him to do that he is a Hero. For you to mention it instead of talk crap to people like me for mentioning it....well. It must mean you're a god. Also it's F*****G annoying to no end when people post videos with translated subtitles instead of having them audibly translated even with the stupid free robot voice. Especially the billion dollar companies like News or Nat'Geo' or whatever. I can't stand that.
Just wanted to give you a “thanks” for describing what the picture of the eddy looked like. Most of the time, I’ve got you on while working (I’m an artist) and having a description really helps me follow along without having to put down what I’m doing and rewind.
Yes, I loved that too! Even though I was watching.
Great for people with vision impairments too!
I watch these while falling asleep weirdly enough…
I second that! I am also an artist and I also love listening to these while painting!!
I work a very repetitive factory job and also want to say thanks for the image descriptions. I’m not supposed to be ‘watching’ anything to begin with, but audio is fine.
I remember them doing tests back in the 90s, to figure out why certain ships were just 'lost' without any call for help. One of the reasons was methane gas bursts from the ocean floor. Methane is not as dense as water, and as such, a ship caught in a funnel (burst) of this gas, would sink as fast as if it were falling through air, and even a ship traveling next to it, would not be affected, nor would it hear the disappearance of that ship.
There would be hardly a splash, and the unfortunate ship would be on the bottom, then crushed by the returning pressure.
I guess the greater the risks, the greater the potential hazards; irrespective of how confident you are. Discretion is the better part of Valor.
I’m glad you mentioned the gas bubble thing. If the methane release is large enough, it completely compromises a ships buoyancy and as long as the ship remains in that tunnel of gas from the ocean floor, it will continue to fall like a stone; faster than it would sink if it were just inundated with water. It would likely seem otherworldly to anyone who didn’t have any knowledge of this phenomenon. No doubt it was as terrifying as it was deadly. God bless those souls lost as sea!
Nightmare stuff!
The "ship travelling next to it" would be more concerned by the Megalodon that had come up with the methane.
@@krashd now you escalated the situation. One ship drops like a rock, the next is eaten by a meg, and what next? The ship following them hits a time vortex?
Wow, this is crazy. I had no idea that eddies could get so big. That is terrifying. Also the fact that a submarine could drag a fishing boat under in seconds without even realizing.
Look up ocean gyres.
Not really eddies, more of a stable whirl, but much larger. As example: The gulf stream flows up north on the north american atlantic coast, transitions into the north atlantic current and crosses the ocean eastwards. One arch twists off and flows south along Spain and Africa as canary current, at the equator it turns west again as north equatorial current to return to the gulf. Basically one large circle the size of an ocean.
You should have seen the eddies my last girlfriend made sitting herself in the bath tub... quite terrifying. But, boy she could yodel.
the dangers of the sea. Submarines can't see what's out there very well, and especially nets are almost impossible to detect. There was no way for them to know the nets were there, and their passive sonar set would not have given them more than a rough estimate of where the fishing boats were. Due to the trawling pattern, it was also not known to the submarine that there were more than 2 fishing boats out there, so when they saw 2 of them they thought nothing of it as old nets float into the paths of ships all the time, causing problems that often require divers to go into the water and cut away the nets.
it happens. though prob more so around places like the uk where narrow passages are used by both fishermen and submarines.
That you would cjhose to believe the crew of a navy submarine would be reckless and dangerous is, in itself, dissappointing.
That young officer in tempory command of the submarine may well have ended his career. Did he do anything reckless? ...Dangerous? I don't think so. It would appear he did all possible due diligence for the safe operation of his vessal.....But, he didn't see what could not be seen.
A tragedy all the way around.
Was wondering when you’d cover the thresher. Was really rough reading the Navy report released a few years back on possible attempts to communicate distress from Thresher’s crew after losing power. Even with SUBSAFE making the sub force one of the safest in the world, the nerves it takes to be a submariner can’t be put into words.
It's been on the list for a while, but I think there are already far better videos out there on the incident. It just happened to compliment this set of stories as a brief overview
@@ScaryInteresting Yeah, we'll probably never know for sure. I personally suspect Thresher was lost because a problem got improperly diagnosed. IE what they thought was minor... wasn't.
@@marhawkman303 I think it's simply how it was communicated. You'd rather want to call the problem "minor" initially until you know the full extent of it instead of calling it "a major problem", then finding out it was not that bad and later being nicknamed Captain Chickenheart or something. "Attempting to blow" is actually a clear indication that they knew rather well the problem was far from being minor. Blowing main ballast tanks is an emergency procedure and you don't do it for just a minor problem, but it is believed that the failure of the ballast tank blow system was what really screwed them over, resulting in "substantial redesign of submarine emergency blow systems by the United States Navy".
Actually, what I have been wondering about Thresher is why they wouldn't carry out initial dive tests in an area where the ocean depth doesn't exceed crush depth, just in case. It would've worked as a fail-safe, dropping to the sea floor in a survivable depth would've given the crew those extra minutes they needed to fix the problem.
@TTFerdinand Exactly my thought as well. For initial tests, conduct the dives in shallow water so in case anything bad happens, they'd only be in water with maximum approximately 1000 feet deep, so that if they lost all ballast control, at worst, they'd settle on three sea floor below at 1000 feet or whatever, making rescue much easier and thus crew survival likelihood much higher.
Why the navy thought it smart to do this initial test in 12,000 feet of open ocean, with no floor to stop the Thresher from sinking miles down, seems really stupid in hindsight.
I live right on the firth of Clyde and have watched many of these submarines resurface after exercises and had no idea of this event. Thank you for telling the story.
If stranded in water, dont tread unless you have to. Backfloat is far more energy efficient.
if you are able to (I've never been able to)
Then maybe coming shark... just stay on land
@@lydiaspiros3987 I really hate water in the ears, but after that, I'm fine. The part I struggled with in the beginning is that the hips have to be forward enough. Saltwater is also more buoyant, which helps.
@@lydiaspiros3987 do you have low body fat %?
Hypothermia would likely get you anyway.
I know death is instant at crush depths but the trip going down, knowing what was coming…terrifying!!! May they all rest in peace…😢
There's no confusion about what happened to the Thresher. It sunk and created the SubSafe program. The Emergency Blow system and condensation so when High Pressure Air was released the pipes froze. That is why outside of the Scorpion, no other U.S. Submarine was lost.. Outside of that, love the video. :)
Why on Earth would anyone in a perfectly good sub trigger an emergency blow? Correct, the sub was not perfectly good and neither of us knows why.
Wow. Absolutely amazing that that first sub survived the eddy. I do place responsibility on the captain.
That had to have been the most traumatizing experience any of those crew members ever experienced.
Thank goodness they made it out.
The thought of being cramped up in a submarine down in the depths of the ocean is incredibly overwhelming so I can't imagine what that must be like to step aboard one for the first time and ultimately be taken down far below the surface. Even if it were their "career" choice and something they really wanted to do, that first time has to be pretty unsettling.
You ever watched "Down periscope"? I like the scene where the engine guy tapes a string across the two walls as they're doing a depth test dive, the string is sagging more and more from the walls being squeezed together from the pressure. And that was in a WW2 sub, and the deepest that one could safely go was only around 600 feet near the of the war. Now they dive to 1,600 feet - that's what the unclassified depth is anyway.
My scariest moment on a surface ship was going 300 miles off course to avoid a hurricane, got caught between two of them. I'm standing in the engine room, with one foot on the deck the other on the bulkhead, watching the inclinometer (a little pendulum that measures the roll degree of the ship) that has a red mark at the 63° mark, the terminal roll point - hit that and we're belly up, and the pointer is sitting there vibrating at the 62.25° line for about 5 seconds.
You have NO idea how long 5 seconds is.
Down Periscope is an excellent documentary @@longbowshooter5291
I grew up in a town about twenty minutes from the ocean, and my high school PE class had a unit where we practiced treading water in the 12 ft diving section of the pool; the instructors taught us how to make basic flotation devices out of our clothes, and the final for that unit was to jump into the deep water with all your clothes on, and keep yourself afloat for thirty minutes without relying on anyone else in the water or just floating on your back. If the instructors saw you floating, they'd have you get out, rest, and then do it *again*.
I live less than a mile from the ocean now, and even knowing how to escape a riptide, how to make an emergency flotation device, and being a strong swimmer, I still never turn my back on the water. The ocean is unforgiving, and I'm not about to take the chance that she decides today is the day I die, lol.
Which ocean are you near? Pacific? Atlantic?
@@Habanero_Chi Pacific; I'm not familiar with Atlantic survival tactics, haha.
@@raeoverhere923 That’s interesting that you mention survival tactics for the Atlantic. I never realized just how different the Pacific and Atlantic are; and now I can see how they may be different.
@@Habanero_Chi Having never been to the east coast, it's hard to tell how similar or different they are, but the coastline where I live is rocky and cold, and is on a shark migration route. I've always heard the Atlantic is a little more placid, and even a little warmer than the Pacific, but I bet up in the northeast, the ocean acts much more like it does here.
I can relate to that first hand. Having escaped with my life by the skin of my teeth, a few times. Though being a less than average swimmer. Water gives life and lots of water will take it right back. Finally I'll add , there is no problem until you discover you're hip deep in a disaster and you may not have a second to spare; or less.
Former submariner here, the USS Thresher is constantly taught to enlisted submariners and with it came SUBSAFE.
This is absolutely terrifying. I am perturbed by the fact that this happened at all, and that it sounds like it could happen again.
My son served on a fast attack sub for three years and it's funny how many Vets of all branches will say "I could never do that" The Silent Service really are unsung heroes
Only Americans go on and on and on and on and on ... about people in the armed forces being heros. And you can't say "unsung" cos you all sing it loud and clear all the time. In others countries, its teachers, doctors and firemen etc. who are heros, not those who sign up to wage war on people in other countries who haven't even attacked you.
As someone who is terrified of even shallow water I'm surprised that i was able to watch this. It's such a shame that so many lost their lives.
The fact that the military makes mistakes like this trainings is ridiculous honestly how hard would it be to warn people that they are doing a training exercise
Peasants don't deserve the warning... our lives are meaningless to our overlords and their minions.
You mean something like...
*"On the following date(s) the Royal Navy will be carrying out training at the following co-ordinates.
PS. If you are Russian please forget you read this"*
Lol, not televised, nor sent in the mail... more like a smaller boat policing the area keeping tabs on everyone and informing them off what was happening
The way you build the suspense reminds me of classic horror literature. Each paragraph feels like a descent into the unknown, and I can't help but keep turning the pages. Well done!
Just got off work right in time for another deep sea horror story. Great work as always, Sean!
Thanks for watching!
Get back to work! what's this "off" stuff??!
cute kitty
I listen to your narrations for sleep and I genuinely appreciate you describing the pics of interest
By the way, I just wanted to say that I really love the intro to your videos. Others might see it as a scary forest but to me, it looks just like the forests where I grew up and that gives me a really warm and nostalgic feeling every time I sit down and start watching one of your videos.
Those straight tall deciduous trees, the fog and the road visible in the canopy, so cosy and beautiful. I hope others agree! 0:18
Yea. Like where I used to go deerstalking, serene.
I served on the USS Pollack (SSN 603). We had a hydraulic pump with the Thresher’s brass nameplate on it. The Pollack was launched in 62 and commissioned in 64. The Thresher went down in 63. When Thresher was getting ready for sea trials following overhaul, she had a broken hydraulic pump. To meet the sea trials schedule they swapped out Thresher’s pump with the Pollack’s pump, since the Pollack was still under new construction. Thresher went down and Pollack kept her pump and repaired it. The brass nameplate was still on the pump when I served on Pollack.
I was TAD to Pollack 1971, the Pollack was in bad shape then, badly needing overhaul...
The idea that an attempt to avoid a fishing boat called the Charybdis could cause a tragic marintime accident is morbidly beautiful
Yeah, naming a boat Charybdis was just tempting fate.
Ironic af
The H. M. S. Charybdis was a Royal Navy vessel, a Leander-class frigate, not a fishing boat. They were there to play sub-killer as part of the exercise and assisted with the search and rescue attempt afterward. I'd suspect that's why they were named th Charybdis in the first place - the all-devouring demigod is a pretty intimidating name for a warship.
Sadly it was sunk in 1993 for target practice, having been in service a little under 30 years.
@@ArchTeryx00 for sure. But in hindsight it was a poor choice.
It was fitting.
1979 I was on a US Submarine near Scotland and on a Sunday Morning at 0630 we got caught in heavy steel cable fishing nets.I remember that sound.we broke free and went south to surface and had a bent Screw and a cable wrapped around it along with a huge scar on the top of the Sub. that incident was very expensive to repair but there were no casualties on that Fishing Boat.Thank God for that.
And do you know what sort of compensation did the fishermen get ?
@@gaz8891 Why would they get Compensation when all they lost was their nets and we got almost a million dollars in damages.
@@Drainman What a totally strange reply. They lost nets that could be very expensive and important to their livelihood. You, my man, lost nothing at all, did you ? Who is paying your million dollars in damage ? Not you! Maybe the taxpayer or an insurance company, so think again. If you were a private person doing your business, you would rather hope that the US navy with all it's modern technology would be able to avoid such an incident and would certainly recompense anyone caught up in a mistake. What an attitude ...
@@gaz8891 You are so uneducated on this subject as those waters have mountains sixty feet below the surface so to remain undetected which was the reason we Won the Cold War with our forty one for Freedom Submarines so you should appreciate your freedoms as it was Sailors like myself who gave you the right to speak freely and PS what we had to lose was our lives as there is no escaping a sinking Sub where as you can abandon a sinking ship.
I think if I was in charge of test diving a submarine, I'd probably do it where the water depth was a little less than the crush depth of said sub, but that's just me lol.
that last story was truly terrifying, imagine the Antares had hit the submarine on its way down and taken it down with it.
That's what I initially thought where that was going
In 1971 on submarine USS Theodore Roosevelt we were cruising at 170 ft on an exercise and suddenly our stern planes jammed on hard dive. We pitched down at at least 35 deg down angle and within 40 seconds or so were at 600 ft! The hull was popping and snapping as the steel bent, guys eyes were as big as saucers as we held on for dear life! Thankfully the training in the control rm took over and the Diving officer ordered all back emergency, and we managed to pull ourselves back out of the dive, and eventually surfaced. Once back in Charleston SC naval weapons station, we reviewed the charts and saw this happened right smack in the middle of the bermuda triangle! Cause turned out to be failed electro hydraulic valve that jammed on dive. Aged a bit that day!!
I’m an east coaster (now Aberdeen, from Moray, Buckie area) and grew up with the sea being about 40 metres from our house, grew up around boats, my stepdad taught so much boat safety and safety around the sea and was always grateful for this. The sea is unforgiving, it’s vast, massively unexplored, has god knows how many secrets, you need to be extremely safe around the sea. Learning about Antares was horrifying, I saw so many fishing trawlers as a kid as Buckie was full of them but we aren’t near a submarine trench like Bute Sound so it never occurred to me one of the dangers of fishing could be getting dragged under the sea by an unseen force like a sub. The sea by itself is massively unforgiving, I hadn’t considered that mankind could somehow turn that into nightmare fuel.
actually not that many secrets. maybe a couple dozen
My sympathies go out to the lost crew and especially the families. This is truly a terrifying story.
I love listening to your videos while playing video games and I really appreciate the audio descriptions. I also really like the editing and images that you use when I do watch them.
Operationally, subs are generally blind as bats compared to surface vessels, so mixing an exercise below with those routine fishing activities above was just playing Queen's roulette. And given previous incidents, the Royal Navy was well aware of that.
I've heard each of these stories before but I'm saving this one, because the gravitas you bring to your storytelling, and the way you deliver the information makes them something special. Thank you, and keep up the phenomenal work!
awesome how you point things out for people just listening. I'm sure i'm not alone in appreciating that
If you want to picture how the titan ppl died. Picture a scene where someone gets sucked out of a ship into space. Now imagine its that tiny sub and the hole is the size of a 3/4 " socket. Picture your entire body sucked thru that little hole in a nano second while the pressure equalized. Now Picture the other ppl being sucked thru at the same time. Inside whole body, outside pasta sauce. That is terrifying.
This is one of the scariest stories i’ve ever heard. The third one. I can’t even imagine, God bless and help them all.
1:05 Bro! I have seen it ! While traveling from Eastern Kingdoms to Kalimdor. I took the ship from Menethil to Theramore Isle and I did see that maelstrom vortex into the distance. Terrifying
season of discovery hype
Its a terrifying world out there... but to think that an entire ship could be tugged underwater by its nets... and so suddenly...
Imagine being on the ship 😬
@@2FRESH-4U No thanks o.O
The Bing Bing Bing background noise drives me insane ❤
This one was very good. Definitely my favorite type of story on this channel. Truly terrifying sea disasters. Also my favorite soundtrack.
3:23 BOYS .. WE MANAGED TO AVOID DROWNING
Just wanted to say how much I enjoy your channel and the podcasts. The time and effort you put into everything you release shines through. Not to mention, you have such a fantastic voice for narration.
The Perisher course was (and still is) crazy. Captains of the anti-submarine surface ships were authorized to attempt to ram the submarines at periscope depth in order to stress out the command candidates.
The ocean, it's beautiful to look at and the wild life is incredible but, I don't go past my ankles, too much too easy can go wrong, just not for me!
That last story honestly sounds like it could be a villain origin story, imagine surviving that catastrophe only to realise that it only happened because someone else was careless and oblivious to your presence?
This is so cool. I remember when this channel had less than 10000 people. This is cool. Very good storytelling
Someone once almost convinced me that fishing at sea would be a good career path, I'm gonna have to show them this.
Forget bout it!!!
13:56, as a sailor, 30 degrees is no small maneuver, that is a massive course change.
Absolutely love your channel. I got into your videos when I had to put my dog down this past summer and for some reason seeing all the horrible things that have happened to other people helped me feel a little better. Kinda fucked up, but clearly I'm not alone. Thank you for the content, I'm definitely gonna check out the podcast soon.
Great narration. I don't even watch the video I just listen to it. You paint a great picture mentally
Your videos really helped me when I was going through some rough times in my life, thank you.
I often go fishing in Long Island Sound right near a submarine plant. In the USA, there's small surface boats that zip around where the sub is and keep all other vessels very far away from it! Really cool to see a sub surface from a distance... However it wasn't always like that. My great aunt one time poked a periscope with an oar, probably in like the 70's or 80's lol
really cool video, the last story was an absolute gut punch. I've gotten fishing line stuck on something that wouldn't stop moving and it nearly pulled me in; a whole boat, I'd be scared to death!
5:00 is very calming. Your voice is very calming, like a therapist.
the story behind the K-129 Russian submarine is also insane. Everything about it is crazy. Where it was lost, the partial recovery, the videos of the burial, the fact it had nukes on board, the extra crew, the theories behind what happened. You could make an entire video about that. look up the book Red star Rogue very interesting to read
Well, it was the cold war, so of course they were always carrying nukes. Unless they were only attack pure attack submarines to attack other subs, all Soviet subs were always carrying nukes.
But the position would only be odd. If the sub was REALLY not supposed to be in that area.
The Russian would never ever admit that they were maybe trying to spy on Pearl Harbor or get close to itso they would of course deny it. Even if they knew the sub was supposed to be in the general area.
And with no constant communication it's quite possible that the sub might have had technical difficulties (with it's communications) and continued it's journey for a while before it sunk due to another technical problem.
The Kursk sunk due to a faulty torpedo during an exercise. So K-129 having a similar fate is plausible.
They were on a mission to spy near Pear Harbor maybe to look on where would be the perfect spot to launch nukes in case of a full scale war.
They had a problem before or after they completed the mission to spy.
- communication failed
-They tried to get back home
Because what else could they do ? Surface and wait for the Americans to come and help them and spy a bit on the sub ?
- propulsion still worked so the CO ordered the ship to head home submerged since the problem appears to be under control albeit damaged.
- the problem got bigger or the propulsion failed.
- problem is so severe that the sub can't surface any longer
- sub sinks below crush depth
- Soviet navy has no clue where exactly the sub is since they lost contact with the sub for quite some time and they are looking at the wrong place
And they can't confess to the Americans that the sub might be mich much closer to Hawaii. So they look on the wrong spot hoping that they sub would be there to prevent any shame in front of the US.
So a sort of similar chain of events as the Kursk.
I don't think that "red star rogue" was accurate.
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USS Thresher proved that defects do sink subs.
A 150 -kilometer- eddy in the ocean? Holy crap! Even more reason to be afraid of it!
Also, your transitions between the stories was very smooth
bro the music kills me 😂
My God. This is the first I've heard of it. Absolutely horrifying.
Thanks for a another scary story to “relax” too haha if inducing anxiety could be called relaxing!
I'm sorry when the Titan is talked about in a serious note it makes me laugh even more than if it were a meme so I got a chuckle out right at the beginning of the video
I've got thalassophobia and claustrophobia. These stories made me literally gag out of sheer aversion. But I love them and still can't get enough!! ❤
It's funny how we just can't pull away from things that truly terrify us.
Tragic tales, but so provocative and fascinating. I used to work for the merchant navy, where conditions are (still) absolutely shocking. The flag of Liberia is not the only dubious flag. I'm going to listen to this one again. Thank you from Ruth x
I suggest all of you watching "Das Boot" one of the best movies ever imo. You'll truly live inside a submarine, it's crazy!
GIBRALTARRR!!!
I’m so terrified by deep dark water but can’t get enough of these videos for whatever reason
Imagine how strong the lines are that allow a sub to grab a boat and quickly pull it under. I guess I'd always assumed that either the lines were weaker, or that there had been safety points designed in that serve as a trip for these lines to break away when the ship is at risk. Let's say the net wraps around rocks on the bottom and it's a tangled mess. How would the ship free itself and why wouldn't that same system be useful when tangled with a submarine?
Thank you once again Sean 💠
Brave brave men, locking themselves inside an airtite metal tube, sinking into a black abyss at crushing depth is insanity! I wonder how many discovered they couldn't handle it and went a little cray-cray? Impossible to not think about where your at when the sub is snapping and popping, theres no fresh air, the smells omg!🤢..I would most definitely lose my sh*t!
I don't think they would have had enough time to go crazy.
Wow. The ocean is so big and to encounter a submarine is just unimaginative.
How many accidents have been covered up which we will never know about?
Love the music! It’s spooky, but also calming?? Awesome video!
Submarines freak me out. Just can’t fathom the bravery it takes to make it a career. I salute them and these brave men and women are the heroes we should raise up in society, not the entitled weaklings all over the entertainment and social media industries.
"Abyss", a movie from 1987. I am not afraid of the ocean, but there is one scene in the movie where the sub "sink down" that is so strong that my stomach sank too. Never saw it again, never forgot it.
If you jump into the sea (with a mask, snorkel, and fins) away from where you can see land, on a sunny day, where the bottom is at least 1,500' deep, the experience is incredible. You can't see the bottom; instead you just see beams of sunlight flickering through the water into the darkness of the abyss. As you look down into the deep, you feel like you're falling and there is a little panic that sets in, but if you get past that it feels like you're actually flying - it's an incredible feeling! But here's the thing - don't stay in the water playing around for long, because 1,000 feet below you there is some massive sea creature watching you. And because you're at the surface it knows you breathe only air, which means you're no longer at the top of the food chain anymore, but instead you're at the very bottom of it; and that creature is giving serious thought to eating you. When I worked on a sportfishing boat guests would often ask me how deep the water was; I'd reply, "it's over your head, so nothing else about that matters". They guests would laugh, thinking I was just being cheeky - but I wasn't; I was being dead serious.
I was a rescue swimmer in the navy and we did a little practice using the j davit in the middle of the Indian Ocean. I was swimming in the most beautiful water then tried to focus on something really deep ( never saw it, probably a fish) but all of a sudden I got so scared. Like claustrophobic but opposite too much for me to comprehend. I just stared at the dummy concentrated and hyperventilated all the way back to the ship. It took a long time to tell someone but then found out it wasn’t uncommon at all. I didn’t get to the flying part. Maybe if I hadn’t panicked.
Reading your comment, u made my imagination wonder. I know there is all kinds of terrifying sea creatures somewhere in the deep, dark, abyss. What do u think this massive creature is? A shark? Octopus? Squid?
@@KrystleDeLosReyes kraken, 100%. Or megalodon close second.
You describe the feeling perfectly! That's exactly how I felt the first time, and every time since! It's magical!
I legit forgot TITAN even happened this year. 2023 has been both the longest and shortest year ever and I mean that in the worst ways possible.
Since the accident with the trawler they have been affixing sonar pingers to the nets to alert the submarines of their locations. The commanders now have a much better chance of tracking and avoiding the fishing boats.
I have to say every video you upload just gets better and better! Keep up the great work!!!
These themed collections of stories are really engrossing, particularly when you weave them all together the way you did here.
What's especially horrifying about the final story is how it demonstrates that, in this era of the military-industrial complex, any of us can simply be swept aside or crushed by the military behemoths which dominate our societies, and they'll barely register us as anything more than a couple of bumps in the night.
Thank you for adding visual descriptions to the images you shown!
If what is said on Wikipedia is true, the video omitted a scary detail of the Antares sinking. When the wreckage of the ship was found, three bodies were recovered near the wreck. The fourth body wasn't found until four months later when it was discovered in a trawler net from a fishing boat. I can't even imagine the shock of the crew when they discovered the waterlogged, decayed remains of a person in their catch.
The Antares story is just so sad... an enitre boat being pulled down by a net, killing ever crew member because it just happened too fast -- now THAT makes me scared of the ocean
I'm surprised the fishing nets didn't have some emergency release on them. The cable tension difference between "strong enough to pull a net" and the crazy "literally pulls the ship under" has to be a big enough range to permit a failsafe release right? 🤔
Or that the cable or ropes would break, jesus thats horrible. I read another comment that they were pulled under in 17 seconds, thats so fast you cant do anything wow 😔
Great video! The last incident is echoed in the excellent BBC mini series, Vigil. Highly recommended.
I think it's both haunting and heartwarming that the Thresher was never decommissioned and her & her crew are on Eternal Patrol
I love watching stories like this, I have a macabre interest. But I also have anxiety, and catastrophize easily-- I even it out by only watching videos about diving/caving/underwater accidents, because I know I'm never going anywhere near those things, and I know no one who does either lmao.
A Scary interesting on a weekday?
HECK YES👍💯
Frrrr
I appreciate you saying what the pictures look like for the ones listening
Thanks for validating my thalassophobia 😅
O.55 in and my fear of deep water has basically quadrupled, jesus
Haven't been here in a bit but nice to see the quality just keeps on improving. Well done Scary Interesting
My dad was in the navy on submarines and just the training he had to go through gave me nightmares as a kid. Talking about swimming to the surface of this like 300ft deep pool on a single breath hold as a training drill to escape in case something happened. Otherwise you’d just drown
This isn't physically possible btw. For one 300ft is far into narc territory and 200ft below decompression depth. In addition, a full breath hold at 300 ft will kill you by 250ft most likely. 50ft of air expanding in your lungs if you took the air at pressure or the immediate compression of 300 ft from no compression would make your full breath nearly nothing. It's hard to get from 30ft to the surface on a single breath and it's definitely not something you would train to do.
if they said 30 ft it's possible but not 300. that's 100M and you'd be very positively buoyant which would accelerate the decompression issues. Even if you made it to the surface alive you'd die from the bends.
For example when technical divers exceed 100ft they usually don't use regular air, they switch to nitrox or a trimix including helium to avoid narcosis and to keep their PO2 from exceeding 1.6 max.
@@jerryinsc that’s what it was! Thanks for the reminder