I've watched every single one of Bob's videos and sadly I have to say no one really knows anything and we're just infantile minds trying to make sense of everything. But it is entertaining to watch nonetheless.
Yet he misrepresents most scientists position on the question. They do not say, "Surely not!" Instead, they recognize the unfalsifiable nature of the claim which means that it can neither be proven nor disproven. And by default there is no sufficient reason to accept it as true. Calling "consciousness" a "soul" is merely superfluous!
@@duaneholcomb8408 that is correct. However, my point remains valid and unchallenged. Affirmatives, either for or against the proposition of "souls" or "existence" (call it simulation hypothesis, dreams, illusions, brain in a vat hypothesis, etc. if you like) are epistemically unwarranted. And thus, there is no reason to "believe" a claim based on "may be's" or "may be not's" that do not so much as even allow for inferential statistical probability. Nonsense!
I have found experimenting with psychedelics in middle age has been a profound awakening on what I am in relation to everything, a journey everyone should take when they are ready
Psychedelics alone prove consciousness is in the brain because DMT is JUST a substance (C12H16N2) that affects neurotransmitters. This doesn’t prove we have souls this just proves how little we know about the brain
Well more specifically it's your consciousness that continues after your body dies. So it has a separateness and life apart from the body and brain. It's also the thing that makes you you across the different versions of you that you move through throughout your lifetime.
Some ascribe that consciousness is a symptom of the non-material soul; a consciousness which is present in a greatly reduced way, even at the cellular level. The soul cannot be measured by material apparatus, but it's invisible presence has it's symptoms. Other invisible forces such as time and gravity are known somewhat by their symptoms, but still not fully understood. Soul is a completely different category of energy, compared to the energies of the material manifestation which we attempt to measure by our limited means.
Robert, I generally like and admire these video essays, but this one frustrates me, because you skipped over the tough questions -- questions I believe you are as likely to harbor as I am. To name a few: if there’s an immortal soul, what is it like before a person’s born? Is it simply a blank sheet? An outline? How is that a meaningful entity? At the other end of life, how does life-experience stamp a person’s immortal soul? Is it the sum of all life experiences? Is it what you are when you die? If the former, how does the soul of a brutal murderer in early life who becomes a saintlike penitent in later life sum up? If the latter, how does an Alzheimer’s patient, who dies in an infantile state, having lost a lifetime of memories, spend eternity? Questions like these, seriously considered, lead to the conclusion that “the soul” is an empty, incoherent concept.
Hi Clay your rational reasoning is refreshing to read as I have asked all the same questions you have 🤔 I found the answers in a book called 'Phenomenon' (Amazon) by Neil Fulcher 'Before Conception and Beyond' it is well worth a read and has the answers you looking for 🌈🎱
@@phenomenon8 words of any language is a medium and might be as slippery as a boat 🚤 on the surface of a body of water 💦 pushed into any direction by the wind of reasoning and logic. Phenomenology might not be immune to it either.
@@scoreprinceton I thought that too Bala but having read the book 'Phenomenon'📔 by Neil Fulcher it really does practically answer those questions everyone else avoids or will not answer because they really don't know 🌈🎱
Just because people can't answer random questions about something that they have no recollection of doesn't mean it doesn't exist, it just means we have no practical knowledge or understanding about it
I'll try to answer your tough (actually very easy) questions: 1-if there’s an immortal soul? -yes, all human and animal soul are immortals. what is it like before a person’s born? -"First, "they" will judge you by your accumulated "karma" from your previous life, then, "they" will find you guilty and you must pay for it. Next "they" will prepare you to come back, (reincarnation), but erasing all your memories from "before". That will answer most of your questions. An Alzheimer’s patient becomes quite conscious after dying, because the pathology affects only the organic body, not the soul. Your questions are quite elementary Mr. Farris, because your "soul" is an empty, incoherent concept at present time. As a matter of fact, most people carry only 2% of their "original soul" in their body's cell. That seems to be your case.... I wonder where is the other 98% ? I think this one will frustrates you most of all ?
I believe that sometime in the future the concept of the "soul" will be understood in the scientific community as what we now call "conciousness". I think these concepts are interchangeable and it's our lack deep lack of understanding into the human phenomenon of consciousness that's causing the divide between the spiritual community and the scientific community.
I've had a strong spiritual awakening in the last six months. The things that happened to me, I'm now 💯 sure we have a soul, and we come from heaven, and go back after we pass. Before my awakening, I was the exact opposite bin belief.
@@TurinTuramber Hello. I would have easily said no. I never believed in God, so didn't believe in heaven. And my biggest fear was death. After my awakening I realized my ego was dropped like a sack of potatoes, and my views on most things have radically changed. I'm only just starting to come out of the dark night of the soul, I had three months of bliss, then three months of the lowest low. All I can do is trust, and have patience, that my spirit will return to me. It's either gone on vacation somewhere, or is sleeping. The last six months has been the greatest highs and the lowest lows. But the knowledge I gained keeps me strong.
@@KenStentiford dropping of the Ego(or the restriction of it) does tend to allow real reality to become obvious. I understand your experience totally and I am happy for you and your new understandings. Bless you 😃
@@garychartrand7378 Yes I am living in the real reality now. I am a completely different person, and the main reason is my ego has been erased. It seems my decades of severe anxiety, which really equates to suffering and sacrifice, has turned into love and compassion. Bless you and your future my friend 🙂
@@KenStentiford I agree with everything you say BUT it impossible to "erase" the Ego. It is your impression of yourself (even your new self). Ego is who you 'think' you are. It's like, Ego and soul are travelling through life in the same bus (our bodies). The trouble is that MOST people have the crazy Ego driving the bus - quite frequently into the ditch. The solution is for the sane soul to take over the driving and to send the Ego to the back of the bus to be dealt with at an appropriate time. I know from experience that the Ego can come to trust the loving soul. This results in a much quieter and calmer Ego. You cannot kill ego - unless you kill yourself. But soul can master the Ego, instead of letting Ego control everything. I hope this helps your world view. Much peace and love to you and yours.
@@Here.now123 Pray tell, what can you possibly mean by you experience spirit daily ? Are you the only one doing that ? Maybe it’s a disease Also, what is a ‘thought drawer’?
Having seen a spirit without a body...I have no doubts...but until one sees it for oneself it is impossible to be certain...im lucky that I knew a courageous soul strong enough to show me the truth
@@Ascendlocal my brother died 6/9/13 but he was sitting on my couch 6/12/13...Mr Kockritz I expect ppl who haven't seen it for themselves to give me their 2 cents... I myself have had trouble accepting it...I studied grief hallucinations but as a sober RN whose never hallucinated b4 or since...I only know what I saw...it was my brother as if he came out of the TV and he smiled at me. Now let the barage of insults ensue. Hallucinations or memories don't come from nowhere and scare ppl...I think he left because I was scared (startled)
@@sonyavincent7450 thank you... As a nurse in long term care I've seen alot ppl die...but I've only seen one person afterwards... if I didn't see it myself I would not have believed it....I am completely Left brain, requiring empirical evidence...it threw me for a loop...so I hit the books trying to understand it...it was not a greif hallucination...it was not a memory. Im waiting to read the results of Robert Bigelow's contest to help me understand it better
"Your soul is lost, but your soul cannot be completely lost because it is tethered to God through Knowledge, through that part of you that never left God. Knowledge, which travels with you every moment, is with you every day in every situation, counseling you and guiding you. But you cannot feel its counsel or follow its guidance because you are so lost and captivated by the world and by your own internal fantasies and fears, your own internal conflicts, your unforgiveness, your grievances, your attitudes and your fixed beliefs." A quote from *The Soul* - a teaching received by Marshall Vian Summers. Check out the whole teaching free online.
After watching all these different beliefs and personal understandings, it’s very clear we are NOT closer to truth. We’re right back at proverbial drawing board, once again. Of course. The only things that becomes more clear, is that we can never know any view as a fact.- of course.😳
@@kenadams5504 Yes the only truth is we have no evidence of souls or of humans somehow surviving death. We know where we came from. We are an evolved species. We did not just appear whole by some miracle. We are no different from all other life. All life evolved. It all equally has a chance to somehow survive death.
@@oskarngo9138 I said all life has an equal chance to survive death. The cockroach and the human. How they could possibly do that is beyond me. I see no way.
@@jackarmstrong5645 Your "soul" is your interdimensional passport. Don't leave planet Earth without it. Knowledge of having a soul is 100 % verifiable if you could enter into a Regressive Hypnotic state, guided by a therapist.
Spirit is outside space-time, therefore the mind will never fully understand it. As defined in Bhagavad Gita, spirit is everywhere and nowhere at the same time. It is larger than the largest and smaller than the smallest, because it got no real dimension. Understanding Relativity Theory is possible to sort of grasp this concepts. Good video. Thanks!.
For me the more interesting question isn’t whether persons have souls or not, rather: How would such a knowledge (if we had access to) influence our actions in the Here&Now?
That would depend if you believe there is life after death or eternity in either Heaven and Hell. If you believe or accept that you have a soul / spirit then you would also have to believe that there is life after death and that Heaven / Hell have to exist. The only reference Western ideology has on this idea of the soul / spirit is the Bible.
@@happycat0411 See: The University of Virginia School of Medicine, Division of Perceptual Studies. We no longer have to rely on any of mankind's ancient fables to begin to understand what's going on in regard to "the larger reality." Now some universities and others are studying it, for decades now, and finding some profound results.
@@francesco5581 Maybe your right, I'll rephrase it then. The self is an illusion which accounts for the individual, only once you have the concept of the individual can you account for a soul. So the soul is dependent on the self, and the self is an illusion, apparently conjured by consciousness.
@@MonisticIdealism If Mary had proof of the existence of a soul, I feel like that would be on the news, in a paper and of course be mentioned in this video.
@@TurinTuramber Your feelings are not the same as reality. Just because you feel it should be a certain way doesn't mean that's how reality is. A true critical thinker assesses the arguments/evidence for themselves instead of dismissing a claim based on feelings.
@@MonisticIdealism Indeed. I said feel to be cute. It's actually absolutely concrete rationale to suggest that the biggest discovery of the millennium would make the news and even render this entire video moot. Pure logic dictates that Mary didn't prove anything. Sorry.
As soon as anyone speaking on such unanswered questions says "This is the way it is" instead of "Here is the evidence and this is what it suggests to me", I completely write them off as a being an honest witness. And yes - bearing in mind the pitfalls of subjectivity - what we can discover through introspection is to be cautiously weighed against external observation.
@@Paul-qr7hu I believe what we call the "soul" or "personality" arises from a combination of our genes and the sum of our experiences. I have no memory of before I was about 4 years old. I believe this is because my brain was still forming and because the "sum of memories" that would become my sense of "self" ("soul", "personality") had not yet reached a critical mass - to become stabilized enough to form a core around which it could continue to grow. This grouping of core memories would have evolved into my sense of self, and continued to be built upon through new experiences. Faster "in the moment" processes in the brain (driven mostly by in-coming information) electromagnetically cross-correlate with this central core of memories to determine how I will act in any given situation. But the whole process can be easily modified by material substances - such as drugs - indicating that it IS a material process. However, given that we still don't fully understand how subjective experiences (like seeing the color blue) emerge from electromagnetic interactions, there is likely to be some important element of the process that we have yet to identify.
@@phonsefagan3754 You said it better than anyone in that video, Phonse. It also jives well with my own experience. I have memories from the age of 3 in a house and yard I lived in before turning 4 in another house two states away. We lived there and moved into another house when I was 5. Every two years after that we moved again a few times, so I have memories from each location that grew in number and strength each time. I also suspect that my personality from genes and experiences formed into memories, both long and short term in the subconscious and conscious mind, can be called a soul by some, but not by me. I think that's almost a catch-all word to say a person has a soul, not a separate thing at all as purported in these kinds of videos and religion too.
@@abeautifuldayful So, please forgive me Randy if I misunderstand you. But are you suggesting that there is a soul that exists independent of your experiences and memories? Because, for me, it is those long-term memories (combined with some genetic predispositions) that constitute what people would historically call the "soul". And, to be clear, I don't claim to KNOW this. It just makes the most sense to me, based on my experiences in the world and my exercises in introspection.
I feel like I just took a trip into the twilight zone. I didn't understand any of it. What are these people telling me, that my body has a soul or that my soul has a body? Is there a difference? There seems to be different opinions among those who claim to be experts. Which one is right? Are any of them right? What does Hinduism have to say about it? Don't we keep getting reincarnated getting higher and higher? Why do you always pick the JudeoChristian point of view? Aren't there others worth considering? What do various Native American tribes have to say. Perhaps it's just too complicated to have a soul. How dies one sell his soul to the devil? Is there a devil? Jews and Christians have it that Eve met him.
All that intelligence and they forgot the most important thing that sets us apart from everything created yet is wholly connected to our souls. Free will. The one thing that God blessed us with that hopefully most of us won’t be ungrateful for.
Free will is basically another term for common sense. Some of us have more than others. I do not believe free will is from God just something we need to make the right or wrong choices and hopefully stay out of trouble and live another day.
So far as we know, persons are persons. The additional label "soul" is a completely unfalsifiable argument, which means that it can neither be proven nor disproven. Calling "consciousness" a "soul" rather than a current mystery or gap in our understanding that, incidently, may or may not offer natural explainations one day is just a "soul of the gaps" argument. An affirmative position, either for or against the claim, is just poor critical thinking and bad epistemology.
The logical position toward an extraordinary, supernatural claim is skepticism until proof is offered, and so far none of the thousands of gods that have been claimed to exist throughout history have lifted a finger to prove themselves. In fact, most believers grasp this for themselves - they automatically disbelieve all religious claims except their own, barring actual proof that never produces itself.
24:34 Yes prof. Houston Smith! That's what I believe too and it is consistant with pantheonism. Our feeling of consciousness is a local concentration of the Spirit, like white caps crests emerging temporarily on the one ocean's surface. isn't it what all religions say anyway, on their own language:"God is everything".
" isn't it what all religions say anyway, " That is the Buddhist view. Most religions say the opposite, that the individual identity survives death. They are all about you being special and precious and that you will live on after death, unlike everything else, including our solar system, galaxy etc. etc..
So, you simply wish that you survive death. That is the real underpinning of your comment. Here’s what we do know to be a fact. Everything in the universe including “us”:follows the second law of thermodynamics. Meaning, everything moves to maximum disorder, including subjective experience. It’s the heat death of the universe where only photons survive. They have no mass so, there is no more time at that point.
@@Ascendlocal In this material universe, that is. I don't believe that the material universe is all that there is. I think that higher reality is a lot more than that, this place is a dream in comparison to the reality beyond this 4D universe (when you include time).
@@Aetriex of course anyone can believe whatever they want. But it seems to me that these metaphysical beliefs are a direct result that we all wish we could somehow survive death. So, it's wish thinking but it doesn't make it true just because we wish it to be.
@@Ascendlocal Well of course, fear of death is natural. For myself, existence itself was absolutely terrifying because I am acutely aware that I am strapped into the seat of a train that cannot be stopped, cannot be diverted, cannot be slowed. The train is time, and it will reach an inevitable conclusion: death. Upon that, there are only two options, Oblivion or Eternity. Both are equally terrifying. Both are equally possible. However, it would seem to me, that there is more evidence to suggest Eternity than there is Oblivion, or perhaps that is solely because proving Oblivion isn't possible. But maybe, proving Oblivion isn't possible because it, in itself, isn't possible. Eternity on the otherhand, has evidence to suggest its existence, however ineffable it is to describe or understand.
One thing we do know is that we have consciousness. Another thing we know is that we are made of physical matter. Another thing we know is that physical matter doesn't have consciousness. If consciousness is real then where it come from? The physical universe? If its not real then we are living in a delusion or we think we are.
In a way we are each an expression of the universe, embedded in the eternal memory of all creation. Our individual personalities which differentiate us from others are a kind of island , a type of strange attractor which echoes through time, in a eternal return depending on your interpretation of Ergodic theory.
Every definition is not what's defined. It can get very close to it or the opposite, but no matter what, it's never the defined. And the only veracious premise here is that nobody knows what the soul is and whether it does exist.
We say "poor soul" or a "great soul". In most usage, words soul and person have the same meaning. One exception is "won the world, but lost his soul." Almost like a machine that won't stop until wear and tear brings it down. Whatever a person or a soul is, we can posit that we are not a body (hardware) which is bounded. Neither are we a mind (software) even though it is unbounded. We rule and use the "software" (shared and distributed) that we denote as the mind which in turn uses the "hardware" (particular and local) that we denote as the body.
Here's what we can say. When you shut down the hardware, pull the power source, software no longer functions or computes. When we die, the emergent property of subjective consciousness ceases, period. To believe otherwise is simply wish thinking for those who refuse to accept non-existence. It also follows Occam’s Razor Principal. Everything in the entire universe of which we are a part, moves to complete disorder (decay), maximum entropy. No one questions the second law of thermodynamics.
Always love these videos. Watch them as soon as they release. I get excited when your videos show up in my feed. Personally, I align with a naturalistic worldview of the body and of consciousness. Our hormones and chemicals flowing throughout our bodies as electricity zaps through our neurons at the smallest scales are complex and when we zoom out, they're even more complex. It's truly fascinating how the brain works and I don't blame those who believe we have a soul or that consciousness comes from God. It is easy to feel this way because it's the simplest explanation to come up with that is both consoling and fitting of religion. However, as science progresses, I see each day that though we are sacks of flesh, we all have value and purpose in the memories we make and the legacies we leave behind.
I would call it typical wish thinking. Let Occum's Razor (take the simplest answer) guide you. The universe doesn't know we're here,. it doesn't care if we are extinct tomorrow. Sure, a life can have meaning but there is no purpose. We are here by mere chance. Multi verse. 10 to the 500 manifolds and different constants. Is it an unfalsifiable argument? Perhaps but it sure is a lot simpler and logical explanation. ( Occum's Razor). BTW, if something, God or otherwise created our universe, then who or what created God?. Don't worry or be scared. Sure it's sad leaving loved ones and they will grieve but when you no longer exist, nothing matters. No more sadness, no pain, no anything. The simplest answer. (Occam’s Razor)
@@LeventeCzelnai obvious? What's obvious to me is that there is no "personal" God or reason to have a theist belief. And for many, many logical reasons aside from there being not a shred of evidence.as you say.
@@Ascendlocal that s what i m saying. u can be a believer, there is no certainty. only faith. u say that s not enough. so, this is why i ask this: what good is trust, only when its obvious? how could we trust in God, if his existence were evident?
I remember one time I was at a fair and I tried a demo of a VR game for a VR arcade, and wondered if I might be someone VRing what I think might be me. Maybe this is how the soul works.
Humans can empathise and be soulful even if they dont instinctively understand why its appropriate.adaptive soulfulness , if you will.if you need help and someone gives you help , is it relevant that they instinctively react empathethically ...or is it most important to you that you are helped when you need it ?
the soul takes up residence, within the heart, and its language is love. Not once anyone of these people mentioned love, which is maybe why the lack of comprehension of soul
The "soul" exists entirely between your ears. This is why this "soul" is affected when taking psychedelics that influence the brain chemistry - people always talk about "seeing weird beings, weird lights and colors and having weird experiences". Yeah, that happens because your brain chemistry has been affected and your memories and experiences are bleeding into each other. You're not actually seeing fairies and Elvis 😂
@@jackarmstrong5645 LOL imaginary things like dark matter and gravity particles? The religion of science believes in them, and no empirical observation has been made of these.
@@vatirhea We have evidence for that. Do you understand the difference? There is no evidence of human souls or spirits. They are entirely made up entities.
@@jackarmstrong5645 you have absolutely zero empirical evidence for either of them. Would you like to share that evidence with us? Both of them were made up to account for flaws in "current models", aka religious dogma. Quantum Mechanics has a pantheon of theoretical unicorns made up to support unfalsifiable theories built on weak empirical evidence. But, I don't expect a materialist to have the intellectual honesty admit that. Scientism is a Cult you know, and recovery doesn't come easy.
Not a professional scholar here. But i have done my bible homework. And @ about 10:55 Nancy is correct. The Hebrew scriptures and Jesus do not teach an " immortal soul." That idea apparently comes from Greek and other philosophies and has largely been adopted by popular mainstream religions including Christianity. Update: I take my definition of " SOUL " from Genesis. God breathed into his nostrils. And man BECAME a living soul. Human individuals ARE souls. They HAVE ( see Job 32:8 ) a spirit. In this context " soul " is the combination of body and spirit.
I'm a bit disappointed he did not speak to a single Eastern philosopher. Their religious cultural background gives them a slightly different perspective on this topic. Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism to name a few; all define things like a soul, spirit, consciousness, and god differently from how we do in the West. Ultimately the question of the soul leads to the question of "what happens when we die?" The difference in description of those concepts -soul, consciousness, spirit, god- lead to vastly different viewpoints on the question of life and death.
René Descartes is frequently considered the father of dualism. He presents the existence of the soul as a separate substance. In his most celebrated argument, he invites a thought experiment - imagine you exist, but not in your body. You wake up in the morning but as you approach the mirror, you do not see yourself there. You try to reach your face with your hand but it is thin air. You try to scream but no sound comes out. Dualism is not without its critics. Descartes seems to assume that everything that is imaginable is possible. Indeed, many philosophers have long agreed that imagination is a good guide as to what is possible (Hume, 2010). This criterion is disputed. Imagination seems to be a psychological process, and thus not strictly a logical process. Immortality has been one of mankind’s major concerns and even though it has been mainly confined to religious traditions, it is also important to philosophy. A substantial part of the discussion on immortality touches upon the fundamental question in the philosophy of mind - do souls exist? Dualists believe souls exist and survive the death of the body; materialists believe mental activity is nothing but cerebral and thus death brings the total end of a person’s existence. However, some immortalists believe that even if immortal souls do not exist, immortality may still be achieved through resurrection. In many philosophical and religious tradition, immortality is conceived as the continued existence of an immaterial soul or mind beyond the physical death of the body. In Phaedo’s account, Socrates explains to his friends that a true philosopher should look forward to death. The purpose of the philosophical life is to free the soul from the needs of the body…, a philosopher should see it as the realization of his aim…. Philosophy is the utmost excessive critical and comprehensive thought process established by human beings. The teaching of a never-dying soul is deceptive and has permeated the religious world with its false promises and claims. The origins of life and death will remain a mystery that even the scientific world cannot solve. The Septuagint, however, provide a clear-cut answer on the origin of life and origin and state of death. According to creation account, humanity received the gift of life from Jehovah. The Hebrew word for breath in Genesis 2:7 is neshamah: the life-giving principle. The breath is equivalent to life itself [Isaiah 2:22]. Another Hebrew word which translated 28 times as breath in the KJV is ruach, which can also mean wind or spirit. It is translated 237 times as spirit in the KJV. In Genesis 2:7, God’s breath makes the inanimate material come to life, and transform it into a living soul. The Hebrew for soul is nephesh, and both the terms ruach and nephesh have frequently been misapplied to suit unbiblical positions about death. A soul is not a separate entity from the body. These words are used interchangeably. *Which is easier to believe, intellectual philosophical speculation or the Bible* *One must confess that the existence of an immortal soul remains unproven by test in the acid baths of experiments and logic. Humans do not have too much intellect and too little soul, but too little intellect in matters of soul.*
I firmely believe in presence of soul and that it is immortal. Whether anybody likes it or not, believes or not, more indepth knowledge can be obtained from oriental religions, especially Hinduism. Ancient knowledge must be taken seriously.
Do other species of human have souls... e.g. Homo Habilis, Homo Rudolfensis, Homo Erectus, Homo Antecessor, Homo Heidelbergensis, Homo Floresiensis, Neanderthals ?
@@Obeijin All we know about is this existence in this form. That's all we can possibly know about. Those that talk of other worlds or ways a person could exist apart from this world are liars without any real knowledge.
What if somehow, stroke, tumor, lightning strike I lost my memories of myself, my past, likes dislikes, beliefs, my whole story gone and yet still was aware of the world, and all experiences were new. What would my soul be in that context without a story without an identity. Just a little thought experiment.
In my philosophy, damage to the physical brain does not matter to the soul. Soul craves experiences in order to evolve and that creates it's BEINGNESS. To the soul there's neither good nor bad experiences - just experiences. It is only the Ego(an emergent property of the physical brain that judges wether an experience is good or not.
Interesting but Buddhism refutes the notion of a soul but most people seem to be aware of this fact and further it is seldom mentioned in videos such as this.
Can’t rely on science not to long ago they didn’t believe in black holes.Anything is possible can’t underestimate this reality we are all kept in secrecy looks to me that there’s a purpose the soul gives us our own individuality that is so differently arranged
Depends what we mean by a soul. There certainly is a ghost that emerges from machinery of our neurosomatic system. A pattern that is both distinct and also emanates from the substrate of our body. It experiences its notion of time. It feels. It learns to speak. It learns to reason. It experiences pain. It eventually will die, but it will never experience death. In that sense it feels infinite. In the context of the universe, it is bounded in time. Everything else is just wishful thinking.
perhaps the soul is interaction possibilities weaving together in a coherent way, or a space in which this occurs, and so the smaller/simpler creatures enable a soul externally with packs, flocks and herds.
In this World(Life) ,We can't Prove the Existance of Certain Things Quantitatively ,God,Soul,Spirit etc are Such things ..Say Metaphysical...!The Divine Spark...When Reside inside a Living body it is Called "Soul"...When Come Out of the Body it is " Spirit"(Learned Soul)(Consciousness) Communicate With the Spiritworld- Join the DivineMatrix...Consciousness becomes Collective Superconsciousness,The Universal Mind !
Okay. When every available metric indicates that the soul is purely a matter of conjecture, we are asked to consider the idea of a purely bodily 'resurrection.' I posit that before that can happen, two questions must be answered: Why? And which (body)? At what point in the timeline of our measly existence are we most clearly defined? Given that there is no mind/body dualism as neither can exist without the other, we are still, at the very least, putting forth the concept of some sort of mental resurrection. So, at what level of development would one be resurrected? And what about those with mental abnormalities who were never given a chance to develop at all? And how would resurrecting a shitload of carcasses benefit god, by whatever name? And how would a resurrection benefit the resurrected? Which all leads to the first question, Why? In my estimation, this video was an exercise in utter futility, with the only worthwhile contribution being, perhaps, Dennett's segment.
Hello - Since Descartes, it has been a philosophical speculation about the `ghost in the machine'. However, we must go to the metaphysical masters for actual truth. The soul never incarnates. It is forever discarnate. This means that it is not in the body as is the astral, but loosely connected with it. Blessings - RevDrD
If we had a soul that lived on after our body dies we'd know about it by now and it would mean our consciousness would remember our lives after death ? We are energy and once we stop producing energy we're dead period?
The "soul" is a construct of the body. It's a construct that disappears while you sleep. And reappears when you wake. If it can come and go like that, how can you call it substantial? The mind, together with inputs to the mind, create an illusion called a "self" or "soul." If this "soul" is eternal, how can it change? If it's immaterial, how can it be a "thing."
Self is who you 'think' you are. Soul is who you REALLY are. When you sleep(and dream), soul is taking a vacation from being so painfully limited with the body. In this state soul is ALWAYS connected to body just as it is with Astral travel - by a silver filament. Without the body the souls natural state is unlimited.
I really wish i could believe the nonsense that the first guy was talking about. It's hard to imagine how people can talk like that without bursting out laughing at the absurdity of it.
after about 30 seconds of that guy i stopped the video.. i had seen all the nonsense i needed to see it really baffles me how any normal adult would believe the nonsense this guy spewed out... bizarre
A man talking to another contemplating soul or consciousness (both undefined or inadequately defined) is futile, just like many philosophical questions, like who are we, where do we come from, what future holds for us, what is cosmic consciousness, or its power etc. The best we can do is find clues in science, however interpreted. That we have no clues isn't true either. Science can give us a lead or it doesn't. In QM we are blessed with the virtues of 'observation', that collapses a wave into particles, implying there maybe a reverse process, from material to immaterial. Assuming it to be true, soul, life, consciousness etc., suddenly makes sense and if you wish 'life after death', cannot be rejected outright.
Are organisms such as humans, persons? That is a better question. Once you have answered that, perhaps you can move on to the second question. Parse it carefully, it's complicated and requires deep thought.
I noticed that you are only examining this topic from an Christian (western) point of view , ignoring approximately two thirds of the rest of the planet. Perhaps they have souls too and an opinion on this topic
I've watched every single one of Bob's videos and sadly I have to say no one really knows anything and we're just infantile minds trying to make sense of everything. But it is entertaining to watch nonetheless.
Good point!
True even our own existence. Is based upon belief.
Yet he misrepresents most scientists position on the question. They do not say, "Surely not!" Instead, they recognize the unfalsifiable nature of the claim which means that it can neither be proven nor disproven. And by default there is no sufficient reason to accept it as true. Calling "consciousness" a "soul" is merely superfluous!
@@coffeetalk924 the fact is the soul may exist. Or it may not. We may not exist at all. Only a dream or ilisuon of reality.
@@duaneholcomb8408 that is correct. However, my point remains valid and unchallenged. Affirmatives, either for or against the proposition of "souls" or "existence" (call it simulation hypothesis, dreams, illusions, brain in a vat hypothesis, etc. if you like) are epistemically unwarranted. And thus, there is no reason to "believe" a claim based on "may be's" or "may be not's" that do not so much as even allow for inferential statistical probability. Nonsense!
I have found experimenting with psychedelics in middle age has been a profound awakening on what I am in relation to everything, a journey everyone should take when they are ready
Psychedelics alone prove consciousness is in the brain because DMT is JUST a substance (C12H16N2) that affects neurotransmitters. This doesn’t prove we have souls this just proves how little we know about the brain
Drugs are sign of a week person, that numbs themself to Deny reality.
Weak
People don't see reality but have to numb themselves.
Nope, too afraid imma unlock schizophrenia. I'll still to meditation
Soul is just a religous word for consciousness.
Phenomenal spacetime and psychological time is just a scientific term for "soul".
Well more specifically it's your consciousness that continues after your body dies. So it has a separateness and life apart from the body and brain. It's also the thing that makes you you across the different versions of you that you move through throughout your lifetime.
Some ascribe that consciousness is a symptom of the non-material soul; a consciousness which is present in a greatly reduced way, even at the cellular level. The soul cannot be measured by material apparatus, but it's invisible presence has it's symptoms. Other invisible forces such as time and gravity are known somewhat by their symptoms, but still not fully understood. Soul is a completely different category of energy, compared to the energies of the material manifestation which we attempt to measure by our limited means.
Robert, I generally like and admire these video essays, but this one frustrates me, because you skipped over the tough questions -- questions I believe you are as likely to harbor as I am. To name a few: if there’s an immortal soul, what is it like before a person’s born? Is it simply a blank sheet? An outline? How is that a meaningful entity? At the other end of life, how does life-experience stamp a person’s immortal soul? Is it the sum of all life experiences? Is it what you are when you die? If the former, how does the soul of a brutal murderer in early life who becomes a saintlike penitent in later life sum up? If the latter, how does an Alzheimer’s patient, who dies in an infantile state, having lost a lifetime of memories, spend eternity? Questions like these, seriously considered, lead to the conclusion that “the soul” is an empty, incoherent concept.
Hi Clay your rational reasoning is refreshing to read as I have asked all the same questions you have 🤔 I found the answers in a book called 'Phenomenon' (Amazon) by Neil Fulcher 'Before Conception and Beyond' it is well worth a read and has the answers you looking for 🌈🎱
@@phenomenon8 words of any language is a medium and might be as slippery as a boat 🚤 on the surface of a body of water 💦 pushed into any direction by the wind of reasoning and logic. Phenomenology might not be immune to it either.
@@scoreprinceton I thought that too Bala but having read the book 'Phenomenon'📔 by Neil Fulcher it really does practically answer those questions everyone else avoids or will not answer because they really don't know 🌈🎱
Just because people can't answer random questions about something that they have no recollection of doesn't mean it doesn't exist, it just means we have no practical knowledge or understanding about it
I'll try to answer your tough (actually very easy) questions: 1-if there’s an immortal soul? -yes, all human and animal soul are immortals.
what is it like before a person’s born? -"First, "they" will judge you by your accumulated "karma" from your previous life, then, "they" will find you guilty and you must pay for it. Next "they" will prepare you to come back, (reincarnation), but erasing all your memories from "before". That will answer most of your questions.
An Alzheimer’s patient becomes quite conscious after dying, because the pathology affects only the organic body, not the soul.
Your questions are quite elementary Mr. Farris, because your "soul" is an empty, incoherent concept at present time. As a matter of fact, most people carry only 2% of their "original soul" in their body's cell. That seems to be your case.... I wonder where is the other 98% ? I think this one will frustrates you most of all ?
I believe that sometime in the future the concept of the "soul" will be understood in the scientific community as what we now call "conciousness". I think these concepts are interchangeable and it's our lack deep lack of understanding into the human phenomenon of consciousness that's causing the divide between the spiritual community and the scientific community.
Humans aren't the only conscious beings. It isn't special, and can't detach from physical brains.
@@sagenev
I never claimed that humans are the only conscious beings. And how do you know that conciousness is substrate dependent?
Sould are defined as living after death, consciousness regularly ceases as we sleep
@@acetate909 because it is. Consciousness is a process, and without stuff that happens, there is no process
@@tedarcher9120
If conciousness ceases during sleep then how do you explain lucid dreaming? How do you explain dreams based on memories during sleep?
I've had a strong spiritual awakening in the last six months. The things that happened to me, I'm now 💯 sure we have a soul, and we come from heaven, and go back after we pass. Before my awakening, I was the exact opposite bin belief.
How would the old you have responded to the new you, in this post?
@@TurinTuramber Hello. I would have easily said no. I never believed in God, so didn't believe in heaven. And my biggest fear was death.
After my awakening I realized my ego was dropped like a sack of potatoes, and my views on most things have radically changed.
I'm only just starting to come out of the dark night of the soul, I had three months of bliss, then three months of the lowest low. All I can do is trust, and have patience, that my spirit will return to me.
It's either gone on vacation somewhere, or is sleeping.
The last six months has been the greatest highs and the lowest lows.
But the knowledge I gained keeps me strong.
@@KenStentiford dropping of the Ego(or the restriction of it) does tend to allow real reality to become obvious. I understand your experience totally and I am happy for you and your new understandings. Bless you 😃
@@garychartrand7378 Yes I am living in the real reality now. I am a completely different person, and the main reason is my ego has been erased. It seems my decades of severe anxiety, which really equates to suffering and sacrifice, has turned into love and compassion. Bless you and your future my friend 🙂
@@KenStentiford I agree with everything you say BUT it impossible to "erase" the Ego. It is your impression of yourself (even your new self). Ego is who you 'think' you are.
It's like, Ego and soul are travelling through life in the same bus (our bodies). The trouble is that MOST people have the crazy Ego driving the bus - quite frequently into the ditch. The solution is for the sane soul to take over the driving and to send the Ego to the back of the bus to be dealt with at an appropriate time. I know from experience that the Ego can come to trust the loving soul. This results in a much quieter and calmer Ego. You cannot kill ego - unless you kill yourself. But soul can master the Ego, instead of letting Ego control everything. I hope this helps your world view. Much peace and love to you and yours.
The first professor’s assertion leaves much to be desired.
..🤣..he looks like he could put money on it.
Surely you're not referring to Daniel Dennett ?
@@Here.now123
Pray tell, what can you possibly mean by you experience spirit daily ? Are you the only one doing that ? Maybe it’s a disease Also, what is a ‘thought drawer’?
Having seen a spirit without a body...I have no doubts...but until one sees it for oneself it is impossible to be certain...im lucky that I knew a courageous soul strong enough to show me the truth
Sorry, you've never existed without your body.
Please, tell us of your experience.
@@Ascendlocal my brother died 6/9/13 but he was sitting on my couch 6/12/13...Mr Kockritz I expect ppl who haven't seen it for themselves to give me their 2 cents... I myself have had trouble accepting it...I studied grief hallucinations but as a sober RN whose never hallucinated b4 or since...I only know what I saw...it was my brother as if he came out of the TV and he smiled at me. Now let the barage of insults ensue. Hallucinations or memories don't come from nowhere and scare ppl...I think he left because I was scared (startled)
@@naomidoner9803 hello. Having had my own visitation by my husband on the one year anniversary of his death, I believe you completely.
@@sonyavincent7450 thank you... As a nurse in long term care I've seen alot ppl die...but I've only seen one person afterwards... if I didn't see it myself I would not have believed it....I am completely Left brain, requiring empirical evidence...it threw me for a loop...so I hit the books trying to understand it...it was not a greif hallucination...it was not a memory. Im waiting to read the results of Robert Bigelow's contest to help me understand it better
soul = energy + information (at quantum level) ?
Yes
Only theory
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Soul equals the universe becoming aware of itself
"immaterial substance ??" - How can we substantiate anything immaterial? Just a legend in my opinion.
What is gravity?
magnets how do they work?
"Your soul is lost, but your soul cannot be completely lost because it is tethered to God through Knowledge, through that part of you that never left God. Knowledge, which travels with you every moment, is with you every day in every situation, counseling you and guiding you.
But you cannot feel its counsel or follow its guidance because you are so lost and captivated by the world and by your own internal fantasies and fears, your own internal conflicts, your unforgiveness, your grievances, your attitudes and your fixed beliefs."
A quote from *The Soul* - a teaching received by Marshall Vian Summers. Check out the whole teaching free online.
No Thanks it sounds like Twaddle!!!
its just crazy that how everything just seems to work its amazing and strange, the fact we can even think of these things
After watching all these different beliefs and personal understandings, it’s very clear we are NOT closer to truth. We’re right back at proverbial drawing board, once again. Of course. The only things that becomes more clear, is that we can never know any view as a fact.- of course.😳
At least we know that we dont know.If not closer to truth , then lessening our great distance from it.
@@kenadams5504 Yes the only truth is we have no evidence of souls or of humans somehow surviving death. We know where we came from. We are an evolved species. We did not just appear whole by some miracle. We are no different from all other life. All life evolved. It all equally has a chance to somehow survive death.
@@jackarmstrong5645
So how do we/species survive death?
Do you mean literally or figuratively survive death?
@@oskarngo9138 I said all life has an equal chance to survive death. The cockroach and the human. How they could possibly do that is beyond me. I see no way.
@@jackarmstrong5645 Your "soul" is your interdimensional passport. Don't leave planet Earth without it.
Knowledge of having a soul is 100 % verifiable if you could enter into a Regressive Hypnotic state, guided by a therapist.
Spirit is outside space-time, therefore the mind will never fully understand it. As defined in Bhagavad Gita, spirit is everywhere and nowhere at the same time. It is larger than the largest and smaller than the smallest, because it got no real dimension. Understanding Relativity Theory is possible to sort of grasp this concepts. Good video. Thanks!.
For me the more interesting question isn’t whether persons have souls or not, rather: How would such a knowledge (if we had access to) influence our actions in the Here&Now?
That would depend if you believe there is life after death or eternity in either Heaven and Hell. If you believe or accept that you have a soul / spirit then you would also have to believe that there is life after death and that Heaven / Hell have to exist. The only reference Western ideology has on this idea of the soul / spirit is the Bible.
@@happycat0411 See: The University of Virginia School of Medicine, Division of Perceptual Studies. We no longer have to rely on any of mankind's ancient fables to begin to understand what's going on in regard to "the larger reality." Now some universities and others are studying it, for decades now, and finding some profound results.
@@happycat0411 Hell is a world full of people!
@@It__From__Bit what kind of results?
@@jayschwartz3203 Descartes would agree with you. He said that "Hell is other people".
*Great subject and Closer to Truth is an excellent channel.*
The soul is an illusion because the self is an illusion. Consciousness conjures up a self and the self conjures up a soul.
too many conjurations ...
@@francesco5581 Maybe your right, I'll rephrase it then. The self is an illusion which accounts for the individual, only once you have the concept of the individual can you account for a soul. So the soul is dependent on the self, and the self is an illusion, apparently conjured by consciousness.
A miracle can not be an illusion
It reminds me of C. S. Lewis' quote, "you do not have a soul. you are a soul. you have a body"
That doesn't make any sense
@@Soul_Flow_ of course it does
A person doesn't have a soul, a person is a soul.
Meaningless non sense unless you can prove that claim.
@@TurinTuramber Read "Self and Soul" by Mary Whiton Calkins.
@@MonisticIdealism If Mary had proof of the existence of a soul, I feel like that would be on the news, in a paper and of course be mentioned in this video.
@@TurinTuramber Your feelings are not the same as reality. Just because you feel it should be a certain way doesn't mean that's how reality is. A true critical thinker assesses the arguments/evidence for themselves instead of dismissing a claim based on feelings.
@@MonisticIdealism Indeed. I said feel to be cute. It's actually absolutely concrete rationale to suggest that the biggest discovery of the millennium would make the news and even render this entire video moot.
Pure logic dictates that Mary didn't prove anything. Sorry.
As soon as anyone speaking on such unanswered questions says "This is the way it is" instead of "Here is the evidence and this is what it suggests to me", I completely write them off as a being an honest witness. And yes - bearing in mind the pitfalls of subjectivity - what we can discover through introspection is to be cautiously weighed against external observation.
Well said. Evidence evaluation is more interesting as well.
Well said. So, after introspection, what do you think?
@@Paul-qr7hu I believe what we call the "soul" or "personality" arises from a combination of our genes and the sum of our experiences. I have no memory of before I was about 4 years old. I believe this is because my brain was still forming and because the "sum of memories" that would become my sense of "self" ("soul", "personality") had not yet reached a critical mass - to become stabilized enough to form a core around which it could continue to grow. This grouping of core memories would have evolved into my sense of self, and continued to be built upon through new experiences. Faster "in the moment" processes in the brain (driven mostly by in-coming information) electromagnetically cross-correlate with this central core of memories to determine how I will act in any given situation. But the whole process can be easily modified by material substances - such as drugs - indicating that it IS a material process. However, given that we still don't fully understand how subjective experiences (like seeing the color blue) emerge from electromagnetic interactions, there is likely to be some important element of the process that we have yet to identify.
@@phonsefagan3754 You said it better than anyone in that video, Phonse. It also jives well with my own experience. I have memories from the age of 3 in a house and yard I lived in before turning 4 in another house two states away. We lived there and moved into another house when I was 5. Every two years after that we moved again a few times, so I have memories from each location that grew in number and strength each time. I also suspect that my personality from genes and experiences formed into memories, both long and short term in the subconscious and conscious mind, can be called a soul by some, but not by me. I think that's almost a catch-all word to say a person has a soul, not a separate thing at all as purported in these kinds of videos and religion too.
@@abeautifuldayful So, please forgive me Randy if I misunderstand you. But are you suggesting that there is a soul that exists independent of your experiences and memories? Because, for me, it is those long-term memories (combined with some genetic predispositions) that constitute what people would historically call the "soul". And, to be clear, I don't claim to KNOW this. It just makes the most sense to me, based on my experiences in the world and my exercises in introspection.
I feel like I just took a trip into the twilight zone. I didn't understand any of it. What are these people telling me, that my body has a soul or that my soul has a body? Is there a difference? There seems to be different opinions among those who claim to be experts. Which one is right? Are any of them right? What does Hinduism have to say about it? Don't we keep getting reincarnated getting higher and higher? Why do you always pick the JudeoChristian point of view? Aren't there others worth considering? What do various Native American tribes have to say. Perhaps it's just too complicated to have a soul. How dies one sell his soul to the devil? Is there a devil? Jews and Christians have it that Eve met him.
@@KAT-dg6el Well I don't so by what you just said I don't have one. Whew, that takes a load off my mind. Having a soul seems very complicated.
@@markfischer3626 I asked the unicorn in my garden and She confirmed that you don't have a soul, Mark. And She is always right.
If a soul / consciousness is enhanced substance of matter; matter might come from an enhanced substance / consciousness?
All that intelligence and they forgot the most important thing that sets us apart from everything created yet is wholly connected to our souls. Free will. The one thing that God blessed us with that hopefully most of us won’t be ungrateful for.
There is no God.
Free will is basically another term for common sense. Some of us have more than others. I do not believe free will is from God just something we need to make the right or wrong choices and hopefully stay out of trouble and live another day.
We all have believes but when the rubber meets the road we all must say "I don't know"!
Persons are souls.
Yes both the same thing that is totally imagined.
No individual persons.
No individual souls.
No individual has ever watched a video.
No individuals.
😊 Here we are . Stuck inside this thing......
@@rickhobman3322 💗🤯
@@Kali_Yugahhhh Stuck in this slob called matter.
So far as we know, persons are persons. The additional label "soul" is a completely unfalsifiable argument, which means that it can neither be proven nor disproven. Calling "consciousness" a "soul" rather than a current mystery or gap in our understanding that, incidently, may or may not offer natural explainations one day is just a "soul of the gaps" argument. An affirmative position, either for or against the claim, is just poor critical thinking and bad epistemology.
The logical position toward an extraordinary, supernatural claim is skepticism until proof is offered, and so far none of the thousands of gods that have been claimed to exist throughout history have lifted a finger to prove themselves. In fact, most believers grasp this for themselves - they automatically disbelieve all religious claims except their own, barring actual proof that never produces itself.
There are religious people who recognize overlapping themes, concepts and beliefs among various religions.
Also, logic itself is based in Metaphysics.
The complete failure of science to provide a materialistic explanation for NDEs or to prove that consciousness is made by the brain.
24:34 Yes prof. Houston Smith! That's what I believe too and it is consistant with pantheonism. Our feeling of consciousness is a local concentration of the Spirit, like white caps crests emerging temporarily on the one ocean's surface. isn't it what all religions say anyway, on their own language:"God is everything".
" isn't it what all religions say anyway, "
That is the Buddhist view. Most religions say the opposite, that the individual identity survives death. They are all about you being special and precious and that you will live on after death, unlike everything else, including our solar system, galaxy etc. etc..
So, you simply wish that you survive death. That is the real underpinning of your comment. Here’s what we do know to be a fact. Everything in the universe including “us”:follows the second law of thermodynamics. Meaning, everything moves to maximum disorder, including subjective experience. It’s the heat death of the universe where only photons survive. They have no mass so, there is no more time at that point.
@@Ascendlocal In this material universe, that is. I don't believe that the material universe is all that there is. I think that higher reality is a lot more than that, this place is a dream in comparison to the reality beyond this 4D universe (when you include time).
@@Aetriex of course anyone can believe whatever they want. But it seems to me that these metaphysical beliefs are a direct result that we all wish we could somehow survive death. So, it's wish thinking but it doesn't make it true just because we wish it to be.
@@Ascendlocal Well of course, fear of death is natural. For myself, existence itself was absolutely terrifying because I am acutely aware that I am strapped into the seat of a train that cannot be stopped, cannot be diverted, cannot be slowed. The train is time, and it will reach an inevitable conclusion: death. Upon that, there are only two options, Oblivion or Eternity. Both are equally terrifying. Both are equally possible. However, it would seem to me, that there is more evidence to suggest Eternity than there is Oblivion, or perhaps that is solely because proving Oblivion isn't possible. But maybe, proving Oblivion isn't possible because it, in itself, isn't possible. Eternity on the otherhand, has evidence to suggest its existence, however ineffable it is to describe or understand.
That Porsche got soul😎
Thank you for these videos. They are fascinating.
Persons are souls.
"Immaterial substance"... Moreland didn't even make it out of the gate.
I know. Like, "Hold on there Sparky. Let's break out a dictionary and go over this word by word."
One thing we do know is that we have consciousness. Another thing we know is that we are made of physical matter. Another thing we know is that physical matter doesn't have consciousness. If consciousness is real then where it come from? The physical universe? If its not real then we are living in a delusion or we think we are.
They are embodied spirits when alive, and souls when the body dies.
In a way we are each an expression of the universe, embedded in the eternal memory of all creation. Our individual personalities which differentiate us from others are a kind of island , a type of strange attractor which echoes through time, in a eternal return depending on your interpretation of Ergodic theory.
Every definition is not what's defined. It can get very close to it or the opposite, but no matter what, it's never the defined. And the only veracious premise here is that nobody knows what the soul is and whether it does exist.
We say "poor soul" or a "great soul". In most usage, words soul and person have the same meaning. One exception is "won the world, but lost his soul." Almost like a machine that won't stop until wear and tear brings it down. Whatever a person or a soul is, we can posit that we are not a body (hardware) which is bounded. Neither are we a mind (software) even though it is unbounded. We rule and use the "software" (shared and distributed) that we denote as the mind which in turn uses the "hardware" (particular and local) that we denote as the body.
Here's what we can say. When you shut down the hardware, pull the power source, software no longer functions or computes. When we die, the emergent property of subjective consciousness ceases, period. To believe otherwise is simply wish thinking for those who refuse to accept non-existence. It also follows Occam’s Razor Principal. Everything in the entire universe of which we are a part, moves to complete disorder (decay), maximum entropy. No one questions the second law of thermodynamics.
You make some good points. Another example would be "SOS" when used it means save our lives.
That's an extraordinary claim. I'm gonna need some extraordinary evidence.
Well I have this dusty old book, written in a dead language. Convinced yet?
@@con.troller4183 ok, you got me. I'm convinced 😁
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Always love these videos. Watch them as soon as they release. I get excited when your videos show up in my feed.
Personally, I align with a naturalistic worldview of the body and of consciousness. Our hormones and chemicals flowing throughout our bodies as electricity zaps through our neurons at the smallest scales are complex and when we zoom out, they're even more complex. It's truly fascinating how the brain works and I don't blame those who believe we have a soul or that consciousness comes from God. It is easy to feel this way because it's the simplest explanation to come up with that is both consoling and fitting of religion. However, as science progresses, I see each day that though we are sacks of flesh, we all have value and purpose in the memories we make and the legacies we leave behind.
I would call it typical wish thinking. Let Occum's Razor (take the simplest answer) guide you. The universe doesn't know we're here,. it doesn't care if we are extinct tomorrow. Sure, a life can have meaning but there is no purpose. We are here by mere chance. Multi verse. 10 to the 500 manifolds and different constants. Is it an unfalsifiable argument? Perhaps but
it sure is a lot simpler and logical explanation. ( Occum's Razor). BTW, if something, God or otherwise created our universe, then who or what created God?. Don't worry or be scared. Sure it's sad leaving loved ones and they will grieve but when you no longer exist, nothing matters. No more sadness, no pain, no anything. The simplest answer. (Occam’s Razor)
you guys say, "why should we believe in souls and God when there is not enough evidence", i only ask, "what good is trust, only when it is obvious"?
@@LeventeCzelnai obvious? What's obvious to me is that there is no "personal" God or reason to have a theist belief. And for many, many logical reasons aside from there being not a shred of evidence.as you say.
@@Ascendlocal that s what i m saying. u can be a believer, there is no certainty. only faith. u say that s not enough. so, this is why i ask this: what good is trust, only when its obvious? how could we trust in God, if his existence were evident?
@@LeventeCzelnai The whole point about trust is that it has to be earned. To trust without a reason is usually called stupidity!!!
I remember one time I was at a fair and I tried a demo of a VR game for a VR arcade, and wondered if I might be someone VRing what I think might be me. Maybe this is how the soul works.
What I know for sure is that gingers don't have souls. They may think they have ones but they don't.
Unexpectedly, YES
Humans can empathise and be soulful even if they dont instinctively understand why its appropriate.adaptive soulfulness , if you will.if you need help and someone gives you help , is it relevant that they instinctively react empathethically ...or is it most important to you that you are helped when you need it ?
Show me exactly how anyone can ask this question without a soul.
And it’s that simple, I thought the same thing.
the soul takes up residence, within the heart, and its language is love.
Not once anyone of these people mentioned love, which is maybe why the lack of comprehension of soul
The "soul" exists entirely between your ears.
This is why this "soul" is affected when taking psychedelics that influence the brain chemistry - people always talk about "seeing weird beings, weird lights and colors and having weird experiences". Yeah, that happens because your brain chemistry has been affected and your memories and experiences are bleeding into each other.
You're not actually seeing fairies and Elvis 😂
Every living human will find out the senseless question soon after their own death.
Figuring out whether we have a soul or not is beyond science.
Yes. Imaginary things are beyond science. Things need to observable in some way for science to understand them.
@@jackarmstrong5645 LOL imaginary things like dark matter and gravity particles? The religion of science believes in them, and no empirical observation has been made of these.
@@vatirhea We have evidence for that. Do you understand the difference? There is no evidence of human souls or spirits. They are entirely made up entities.
@@jackarmstrong5645 you have absolutely zero empirical evidence for either of them. Would you like to share that evidence with us? Both of them were made up to account for flaws in "current models", aka religious dogma. Quantum Mechanics has a pantheon of theoretical unicorns made up to support unfalsifiable theories built on weak empirical evidence. But, I don't expect a materialist to have the intellectual honesty admit that. Scientism is a Cult you know, and recovery doesn't come easy.
@@vatirhea And your evidence for god is...?
Their are somethings that can't be described by a hard evidence.
Breathing is soul,spirit,life!!!😁🤣
I love the sound at 7:07.
Not a professional scholar here. But i have done my bible homework. And @ about 10:55 Nancy is correct. The Hebrew scriptures and Jesus do not teach an " immortal soul." That idea apparently comes from Greek and other philosophies and has largely been adopted by popular mainstream religions including Christianity.
Update: I take my definition of " SOUL " from Genesis. God breathed into his nostrils. And man BECAME a living soul. Human individuals ARE souls. They HAVE ( see Job 32:8 ) a spirit. In this context " soul " is the combination of body and spirit.
I'm a bit disappointed he did not speak to a single Eastern philosopher. Their religious cultural background gives them a slightly different perspective on this topic. Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism to name a few; all define things like a soul, spirit, consciousness, and god differently from how we do in the West. Ultimately the question of the soul leads to the question of "what happens when we die?" The difference in description of those concepts -soul, consciousness, spirit, god- lead to vastly different viewpoints on the question of life and death.
11:02 funky groove *walks down street and points 👉👉👈👈*
the question without answer.
So Cool
Yes.
Mr. Houston Smith brilliant truth.
Similar souls who do not understand each other's language, but must nevertheless must live together
Feelings are the language of the soul.
The fire goes out and you’re left with ashes. There is no more fire, nor even the possibility of fire.
René Descartes is frequently considered the father of dualism. He presents the existence of the soul as a separate substance. In his most celebrated argument, he invites a thought experiment - imagine you exist, but not in your body. You wake up in the morning but as you approach the mirror, you do not see yourself there. You try to reach your face with your hand but it is thin air. You try to scream but no sound comes out.
Dualism is not without its critics. Descartes seems to assume that everything that is imaginable is possible. Indeed, many philosophers have long agreed that imagination is a good guide as to what is possible (Hume, 2010). This criterion is disputed. Imagination seems to be a psychological process, and thus not strictly a logical process.
Immortality has been one of mankind’s major concerns and even though it has been mainly confined to religious traditions, it is also important to philosophy. A substantial part of the discussion on immortality touches upon the fundamental question in the philosophy of mind - do souls exist?
Dualists believe souls exist and survive the death of the body; materialists believe mental activity is nothing but cerebral and thus death brings the total end of a person’s existence. However, some immortalists believe that even if immortal souls do not exist, immortality may still be achieved through resurrection.
In many philosophical and religious tradition, immortality is conceived as the continued existence of an immaterial soul or mind beyond the physical death of the body. In Phaedo’s account, Socrates explains to his friends that a true philosopher should look forward to death. The purpose of the philosophical life is to free the soul from the needs of the body…, a philosopher should see it as the realization of his aim….
Philosophy is the utmost excessive critical and comprehensive thought process established by human beings.
The teaching of a never-dying soul is deceptive and has permeated the religious world with its false promises and claims.
The origins of life and death will remain a mystery that even the scientific world cannot solve. The Septuagint, however, provide a clear-cut answer on the origin of life and origin and state of death. According to creation account, humanity received the gift of life from Jehovah.
The Hebrew word for breath in Genesis 2:7 is neshamah: the life-giving principle. The breath is equivalent to life itself [Isaiah 2:22]. Another Hebrew word which translated 28 times as breath in the KJV is ruach, which can also mean wind or spirit. It is translated 237 times as spirit in the KJV. In Genesis 2:7, God’s breath makes the inanimate material come to life, and transform it into a living soul. The Hebrew for soul is nephesh, and both the terms ruach and nephesh have frequently been misapplied to suit unbiblical positions about death. A soul is not a separate entity from the body. These words are used interchangeably.
*Which is easier to believe, intellectual philosophical speculation or the Bible*
*One must confess that the existence of an immortal soul remains unproven by test in the acid baths of experiments and logic. Humans do not have too much intellect and too little soul, but too little intellect in matters of soul.*
I firmely believe in presence of soul and that it is immortal. Whether anybody likes it or not, believes or not, more indepth knowledge can be obtained from oriental religions, especially Hinduism. Ancient knowledge must be taken seriously.
It’s called energy. And most scientists do not say souls don’t exist. Energy can not be created nor destroyed! Yes learned that in 7th grade science.
Do other species of human have souls... e.g. Homo Habilis, Homo Rudolfensis, Homo Erectus, Homo Antecessor, Homo Heidelbergensis, Homo Floresiensis, Neanderthals ?
Cats and dogs ...
How about a blade of grass? Does it have a soul? Humans are just a form of life like all forms of life.
@@jackarmstrong5645 Taoists believe in the Tao . The force that is within and without all things.
@@Obeijin All we know about is this existence in this form. That's all we can possibly know about.
Those that talk of other worlds or ways a person could exist apart from this world are liars without any real knowledge.
@@jackarmstrong5645 Buh buh... hoomanz is speshul!
We are nothing. Manifestation of energy and imagination. Particle is a perception
Your best episode so far.
What if somehow, stroke, tumor, lightning strike I lost my memories of myself, my past, likes dislikes, beliefs, my whole story gone and yet still was aware of the world, and all experiences were new. What would my soul be in that context without a story without an identity. Just a little thought experiment.
In my philosophy, damage to the physical brain does not matter to the soul. Soul craves experiences in order to evolve and that creates it's BEINGNESS. To the soul there's neither good nor bad experiences - just experiences. It is only the Ego(an emergent property of the physical brain that judges wether an experience is good or not.
Love these programes but wat if the body is cremated how can u raise it
Interesting but Buddhism refutes the notion of a soul but most people seem to be aware of this fact and further it is seldom mentioned in videos such as this.
Can’t rely on science not to long ago they didn’t believe in black holes.Anything is possible can’t underestimate this reality we are all kept in secrecy looks to me that there’s a purpose the soul gives us our own individuality that is so differently arranged
Depends what we mean by a soul. There certainly is a ghost that emerges from machinery of our neurosomatic system. A pattern that is both distinct and also emanates from the substrate of our body. It experiences its notion of time. It feels. It learns to speak. It learns to reason. It experiences pain. It eventually will die, but it will never experience death. In that sense it feels infinite. In the context of the universe, it is bounded in time. Everything else is just wishful thinking.
Do animals have souls?
Nope.
Ps. Humans are animals.
i think so
Only on the bottoms of their feet.
perhaps the soul is interaction possibilities weaving together in a coherent way, or a space in which this occurs, and so the smaller/simpler creatures enable a soul externally with packs, flocks and herds.
Maybe basic soul
In this World(Life) ,We can't Prove the Existance of Certain Things Quantitatively ,God,Soul,Spirit etc are Such things ..Say Metaphysical...!The Divine Spark...When Reside inside a Living body it is Called "Soul"...When Come Out of the Body it is " Spirit"(Learned Soul)(Consciousness) Communicate With the Spiritworld- Join the DivineMatrix...Consciousness becomes Collective Superconsciousness,The Universal Mind !
Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter
As everything is related, together, so our minds are related to our body’s and souls!
Soul = completely nebulous concept that refuses to subject itself to falsification
Just like the scientific method.
@@app0ll0nysus right excellent comparison
Homie you don’t understand what “The Scientific Method” even is.
@Skeptical Zack please subject your reply to falsification
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Last one make more sense at speed 1.5
You are a soul. You have a body.
Okay. When every available metric indicates that the soul is purely a matter of conjecture, we are asked to consider the idea of a purely bodily 'resurrection.' I posit that before that can happen, two questions must be answered: Why? And which (body)? At what point in the timeline of our measly existence are we most clearly defined? Given that there is no mind/body dualism as neither can exist without the other, we are still, at the very least, putting forth the concept of some sort of mental resurrection. So, at what level of development would one be resurrected? And what about those with mental abnormalities who were never given a chance to develop at all? And how would resurrecting a shitload of carcasses benefit god, by whatever name? And how would a resurrection benefit the resurrected? Which all leads to the first question, Why? In my estimation, this video was an exercise in utter futility, with the only worthwhile contribution being, perhaps, Dennett's segment.
Nancey seems to have a deep understanding.
Hello - Since Descartes, it has been a philosophical speculation about the `ghost in the machine'. However, we must go to the metaphysical masters for actual truth. The soul never incarnates. It is forever discarnate. This means that it is not in the body as is the astral, but loosely connected with it. Blessings - RevDrD
Energy
What do you think! You think we don't have souls...
Everyone know we have ...
If we had a soul that lived on after our body dies we'd know about it by now and it would mean our consciousness would remember our lives after death ? We are energy and once we stop producing energy we're dead period?
No, we are primarily a soul. We come here to have the human experience, but remain largely connected to our soul which is in another dimension.
@@sonyavincent7450 oh really now? And what defense do you have to back that up?
The "soul" is a construct of the body. It's a construct that disappears while you sleep. And reappears when you wake. If it can come and go like that, how can you call it substantial? The mind, together with inputs to the mind, create an illusion called a "self" or "soul." If this "soul" is eternal, how can it change? If it's immaterial, how can it be a "thing."
Self is who you 'think' you are. Soul is who you REALLY are.
When you sleep(and dream), soul is taking a vacation from being so painfully limited with the body. In this state soul is ALWAYS connected to body just as it is with Astral travel - by a silver filament. Without the body the souls natural state is unlimited.
I’m a bit surprised that someone of your background would have such an unscientific view of things
I really wish i could believe the nonsense that the first guy was talking about. It's hard to imagine how people can talk like that without bursting out laughing at the absurdity of it.
after about 30 seconds of that guy i stopped the video.. i had seen all the nonsense i needed to see
it really baffles me how any normal adult would believe the nonsense this guy spewed out... bizarre
A man talking to another contemplating soul or consciousness (both undefined or inadequately defined) is futile, just like many philosophical questions, like who are we, where do we come from, what future holds for us, what is cosmic consciousness, or its power etc. The best we can do is find clues in science, however interpreted. That we have no clues isn't true either. Science can give us a lead or it doesn't. In QM we are blessed with the virtues of 'observation', that collapses a wave into particles, implying there maybe a reverse process, from material to immaterial. Assuming it to be true, soul, life, consciousness etc., suddenly makes sense and if you wish 'life after death', cannot be rejected outright.
Are organisms such as humans, persons? That is a better question. Once you have answered that, perhaps you can move on to the second question. Parse it carefully, it's complicated and requires deep thought.
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Science deals in material reality. Souls are super-material, thus, not in the realm of science.
I think that last guy suffered from a stroke he’s forcing his words out I felt so bad for him
.one on each shoe!
No Eleanor? ... I guess she gave us her 'pattern' account a while back.
Terence McKenna used to say take DMT and then we'll talk!
What dies when we die??
I noticed that you are only examining this topic from an Christian (western) point of view , ignoring approximately two thirds of the rest of the planet. Perhaps they have souls too and an opinion on this topic
No, the soul has no place in rationality.
Since when was special relativity and quantum mechanics 'rational'?
Dennett is the perfect example of what Nietzsche called "the hyperbolic naivete of man"....
Daniel Dennett hyperbolic and naive? What a load of psychological projection.