Sadly both men will be remembered for those drafted ahead of them, the legendary Michael Olowokandi For dirk and of course nba legend Darko Milićic for d-wade
Yeah dude it's tragic how those legends overshadowed what they did for their team. Just look on what darko achieved in his rookie year winning hist first ring
Not so Wealthy Gamer that’s all I’m trying to say he scored he blocked he could do it all up until the very end we might not see a two guard like that again
Asmosis Jones I’m not talking financial stuff. Some players just want to win a championship before they retire, he’s just unlucky that he was a part of the losing team in both finals.
7:57... While this is true, idk what the numbers say, but Dirk in the 4th/down the stretch was so clutch in the Finals. Even when he was struggling in the first 3, he always showed up in the 4th/down the stretch. That's what I remember, at least.
I'll never forget when those dudes mocked Dirk and lost lmao. I was so happy the Mavs won mainly because of Kidd truly deserving a ring from all that hard work he did for those Nets in the early 2000s.
I think mock is a strong word....they respect dirk..i think lebron and wade were mocking the media coverage of dirk coughing once on camera..they didnt know he was even sick but they were basically showing us how the felt about how other teams were covered when they played them and how every little thing became an excuse or story because the fans and media wanted to take away from miamis greatness...its true when you think about it...thats not who wade or bron are at heart...if kobe did it well then thats who he or curry are..aka bitches...
Remember, wade is only 1 game win ahead on dirk on their career matchups from a total of 35 games where wade has 18-17 winning record than dirk and each won 6 games in playoffs. Tbh this rivalry is pretty underrated.
Rio Taco That’s such a bullshit stats because it’s a team game. Wade had the Big 3 for 2011 until 2014. The same with LeBron and Kobe, Bron had that big 3 team in Miami and Cleveland. If anything, let’s examine their head to head record when their rosters were competitive with each other. But that’s such a frivolous stat when it’s vacant of context.
@@samuel2pac72 you miss out the point dude. This stat shows that they nearly had identical record on their matchups which mesmerizing because they also had similar record playoff record of 6-6 when their team at best. Also to satisfy your point, those 2 finals matchup they were up to are where dirk team is considered favorites in finals but choked on dwade heat and similary on big 3 heat choking to underdog mavericks team. Those 2 finals are where dwade and dirk had their best teams but still had similar records on their matchup. SO THIS STAT IS NOT A BS AND YOUR ARGUMENT IS SHIT
@@samuel2pac72 why are you getting so angry man. If you use that then you can look at all the pathetic teams wade got before and after lebron, or look at his injury history. I mean its an interesting statistic thats it. IMO on the all time list DIrk is 17th and wade 15th.
@imarino13 I wouldn't. Dwade was better at both sides of the ball, a pretty good rebounder for his size one of the best facilitating shooting guards ever, a much better defender, and the best blocking 2 guard ever. Dirk is excellent offensively and probably the best shooting big ever, but he wasn't a good defender and he was a pretty terrible rebounder for his size. For instance, in his 4th and 3rd to last seasons, Tim Duncan matched Dirk's career high and second best rebound tally. And out of the 19 seasons he played, in only 4 seasons does he have less rebounds per game then that.
@imarino13 Dude, Dirk had a 50 40 90 season once. He wasn't doing this every year. Hell, he had exactly TWO seasons in his entire career where he shot .500 or better, and 3 seasons where he shot better than .900 from the charity stripe, and 4 seasons where he shot .400 from 3. In those 5 seasons he shot .400 or better, only two had him actually make more than 75 three pointers. Yes, was Dirk very good? Yes, historically so. However, he was very one note in that he was a good scorer. That was basically it. He wasn't really exceptional at anything else. Dwade at his best was as good of a scorer if not better given his higher point totals on one more shot per game (if you look at their career splits, both only have one season with 20+ shots per game: Dirk averaged 25.9 points on 20 shots per game and Dwade had 30.2 points on 22 shots per game, the vast majority of their respective primes they both hovered around 18 shots per game), Dwyane Wade's superior career field goal percentage (though inferior eFG% due to Dirk undeniably being the superior 3 point and free throw shooter), I'd say they're about equal offensively. You could make a convincing argument either way with Dwyane being the better scorer in his prime with crazy efficiency for his size but not 3 and an average free throw percentage while Dirk is better from 3 and the ft, his career high would be tied for Dwade's like 4th best career outing, but he has more 20+ PPG seasons than Dwade does with 12 to Dwade's 10. However, afterwards is where Dirk falls behind. By a lot. Dwade was a pretty decent rebounder for his size, position, and the era he played most of his prime in. If he was in his prime now, he'd probably have had a lot more rebounds with all the threes and the small ball lineups. Also, for his position and the era he played on, he's one of the best facilitators at the shooting guard position ever. From 2004-2010 he averaged 7 assists per game while averaging 27 points per game. Additionally, he's the best shot blocking guard ever. Dirk had one season with more total blocks than Dwade's highest blocks total. At 7 feet tall. Dwade is 6'4 in shoes. Dirk has 396 more blocks than a dude he's like 8 inches taller than despite playing 5 more seasons and 468 more games in. Dirk looks even worse when you look at his rebounding compared to the other great power forwards of his time like KG and Timmy D. Dwayne Wade is better because even though it's difficult, if not impossible to compare their positions and the fact that their games couldn't be more different, Dwade was the more well rounded player by far. Dirk was really, really good at like one thing. However, you could argue Dwade was better at the one thing Dirk was great at, on top of being much, much better at the other parts of the game. If both were a 10/10 offensively, Dirk would at best be like a 3-4/10 defensively while Dwade would be an 8-9/10 defensively. That still ends up with Dirk being a 13-14 and Dwade a 18-19.
dont forget wade winning mvp of the 2010 all star game in dallas in front of the largest nba crowd ever like 100,000 people in the new cowboys stadium ...
What would've made those rivalries better was if they played the same position and guarded each other. Iggy or Green guarded LeBron while Bruce Bowen guarded Kobe.
I really like the honorary All-Star thing. Great way to send off aging former superstars without taking spots away from players who deserve to be there.
dirk in 2011 beat kobe odom gasol artest bynum phil then beat kd harden russ ibaka and then wade spo bron bosh...give him props for that...to do that in 1 run reminds me of the 89 pistons going through boston chicago and la in bird magic and mjs primes...you know how hard that is?..his 2nd best offensive player was terry lol
“Donnie Pate” you the type of fool who call most nba legends overrated Kobe is a top 10 player in NBA history regardless of what your hating ass believes !
Absolutely love the video, and they're both Top 20 all time, and likely Top 5 at their positions... For now. They each helped develop and inspire new styles of plays and new signature moves that will help the newest generation of players to surpass them, but at the moment they retire, I'd say they're both top 5 all time at their respective positions.
Andy your background music is so soothing. That's why I don't even go to any other channel that does what you do. You make Basketball even more fun to watch and play by reporting each player you did a vid on your channel
I'm a heat fan but 2011 was still bittersweet. Ofc you want your team to pull out the win but watching Wade and Dirk battle it out was truly amazing. I just wish Dwyane didn't get hurt in the start of Game 5, he was playing almost to an identical point of his 06 performance throughout the first 4 games. Idk just could've had a maximum battle being more entertaining.
yeah the heat should of own 2011...it pains me we didnt...its like lebron didnt want to win...I just feel bad for the vets he let down that never got a ring like big z dampier magloire stackhouse and bibby
Trill Figga Dirk actually played really well against other big man (or better than you’d think). What he really struggled with was against smaller defenders like the ones you mentioned, especially Bowen, McGrady, and most infamously Stephen Jackson.
Dirk is better than Malone and Barkley and Duncan. Duncan had a lot more help and never took over a game or a series. Duncan had Eli, Horry, Kerr, Gino, Parker,Robinson, Green and Khawi just to name a few that carried Duncan, all those players hit game winners and all the big shots.
@@toddduffy1658 Duncan beat Dirk many times head to head Duncan was also All-Defense like 10+ times, Finals MVP 3 times, and statistically dominant on both ends of the court Duncan is the best PF ever
While it is a great feat, there are a few other accomplishments that I would put above it like Hakeem's 1995 run, Bill's 11 rings, Michaels two 3-peats and Shaq and Kobe's '01 run.
@Swag God Dirk was a legitimate superstar. Chandler was a DPoY. Kidd was a great asset with plenty of experience. Marion was also great. The '94 Rockets are the only team in NBA History to win without 2 All-Stars and HoF'ers.
@imarino13 Tyson Chandler was DPoY, Kidd was the floor general, Terry was hitting clutch shots and outplaying LeBron, and a whole bunch of other guys stepping up to destroy Miami. Stop it.
In the vacuum of the 2 finals and the stories they told along with the overarching story of Wade and Dirk's careers, I think it was one of the best and most unique rivalries in recent history.
I remember that 2006 NBA Finals. Mavs were killin the Heat in the first 2 games and even game 3. Then the whistles came. Shitfest after game 2 or 3.. The refs screwed over the Mavs. But, Dallas got the revenge in 2011. Embarrassed the Heat in an upset. lol. Mavs weren't really even expected to make it to the Finals. Spurs, Lakers or Thunder should've been there. Mavs were gettin old and know playoff chokers. Considered soft, jump shooting type team. But, 2011 was magical for them.
Yeah I was incredibly pissed. Considering how 3 of those Mavs losses were by 3 points or less, the fouls really gave the Heat the title. I mean, even Shaq never reached 97 free throws. The closest he ever got was 93 in 2000 against the Pacers... and he was getting fouled intentionally.
i think the biggest irony is wade gets downgraded for playing with shaq but the 2011 mavs had a better 2nd option in the playoffs named terry scoring wise he impacted the game more than shaq in 06 did lol..wades performance is more important...his team barley won 3 of those games..no one gives him enough credit for willing them to wins...
If nowitzki went to the finals in 03 they will be facing the nets. But if dwade went to the finals in 05 they will meet the spurs.. Thats another level.
I love my Mavs so much but I've always respected Wade and his passion for the game. Dirk IMHO edges Wade out when comparing their careers side by side.
"Dwayne Wade took over, and the Mavericks collapsed" Really easy to take over when you magically find yourself at the line every trip.....................
@@THE_BEAR_JEW lmao the 2011 Mavs were way better defensively, Dirk was almost as good as he was in 2006 and they got a lot more veterans together and won a chip (including tyson chandler who largely saved the Mavs defense) Wade was still phenomenal in 2011 they lost because LeBron choked. In 2006 the Mavs defense was pretty bad and they had to foul d wade whenever he was in the paint
As a Mavs fan, I remember what the "Whistle-gate" finals in 2006 and being SO pissed about it all. The whole city of Dallas was in mourning for weeks lol. But 2011 made it ALL worth the pain. Seeing Dirk get his revenge and a bunch of deserving guys get thier one and only championship against all odds was nothing short of amazing. And it has to be one of the best finals in history.
I think they're both top 5 all time at their position guaranteed but you could argue top 3 as well. I actually rank Dirk over KG at PF [Duncan at 1, Karl Malone at 2] for the fact that he lead his team to the championship and he's scored over 30,000 points. Plus, Dirk revolutionised the game; because of him every big man shoots now. Dirk also had the 2nd most unguardable shot with his one footed fadeaway.
Y'all Kno what's more crazier is that Shaq originally wanted to get traded to Dallas 1st but something happened n he didn't go but ended up in his 2nd choice Miami lol. Which he won there so it's crazy to think that if he would have came here to Dallas he n Dirk would have won n not Wade
'06 Mavs-Heat and '02 Kings-Heat are the Peyton and Eli Manning of NBA ref screwjobs (with '01 Bucks-Sixers as Cooper Manning). I'm not the one that thought of that. But it is appropriate. Dirk should have two rings.
Wade 3rd best SG, and Dirk has to be top 6 PF, just behind legends with more rings or in bigger markets, but it's not bad to be on the top 10 of your position in almost 70 years (or more)
this is the most annoying comparison in the history of the game. besides shooting the basketball, dirk did nothing better tangibly or intangibly. because of what happened in 2011, the 17 year old me knew that people would rank dirk above dwyane wade. but the reality is if lebron even HALF shows up, the heat win that series in 6 games. and wade is finals mvp for the second time against dirk. people talk about the refs in 2006, but wade simply was better than dirk and some foul calls he clearly deserved. dirk having a longer prime doesn’t make him better. by that logic, lebron over mj. and dirk being more revolutionary for the game also doesn’t make him better. by that logic, steph curry over lebron. wade was simply better at his peak, like way better. would you say prime dirk is better than prime kobe or close to prime kobe? no of course you wouldn’t. so why use that argument against wade who was neck and neck with kobe and lebron in his prime? how in the world is a top 3 2 guard of all time not better than dirk? this is still THE most annoying basketball comparison to me. just because he’s european born, 7 ft and is a great shooter of the basketball, does not make him better. him being a “nice guy” also doesn’t make him better. him winning in 2011 despite dwyane wade having better numbers with underperforming teammates also doesn’t make him better. knock it off with this dumb ass take and comparison.
As a heat fan, it did seem like Wade got a lot more calls that were questionable, but it was still an amazing performance and lets not act like the heat didn’t deserve. And After going back and watching it, it seemed more like wade was just taking advantage of bad defense and going to the rim and u get fouled when u go to the rim. This was after the league started to try to increase offense production and created more rules to crack down on over physical defense, and slashing guards like Wade and Kobe obviously thrived during this time because of how many times they drove to the rim and got fouled.
Yeah wade got a lot of calls cuz you really think terry, harris, howard, daniels, and stackhouse could guard him? Too easy to drive to the basket for dwade and no one can stop him.
In 2004 the NBA outlawed handchecking. The next few years were a transition period for players and refs adjusting to the new rule. In 2006 you have the quickest player in the league repeatedly attack the basket and you can see where the high number of free throws came from.
yeah the mavs in the 4th could not catch up to him...he was just to fast and crafty...honestly they should of tried more josh howard on wade due to length..everyone else on the mavs could not guard him...period...
tim donaghy (mafia ref accused of rigging games) just did an interview saying that the refs came together against mark cuban in the 2006 finals bc of all the write ups after games the league enforced bc of marks complaints
The end of the era they was the last 2 left but Bron and Wade did got too cocky Dirk was coughing on the bench I remember that good and 02 and 06 is the most rigged azz series we all know it...
Someone Make a Movie about this which Tells the backstory about this like in rocky balboa, but also symbolyzes the same Details about their Career and then put in game Highlights to Show the game.
Stern gifted Wade title in 2006, that was Dirks I dont care what anyone says, rewatch it, man got to the line 25 times a night, every ticky tack foul, every questionable call. NBA needed a new star and Wade was that guy, that championship has an asterisk next to it. I do not respect Wade for that I would never exchange jerseys with him, Dirk got his revenge in 2011 but it still isnt right, he is a 2 time champion.
Trill Figga Dirk got whooped. Wade had one of the most dominant finals ever. He put that heat team on his back. Dirk isn’t a goat either, at least Stan a goat :>
Nowitzki just choked in 2006, he shot like 40% from the field Wade took over on both ends, which is why Miami came back, and he deservingly won the Finals MVP
That 2006 nba finals. I remember watching it and all I can think of is how many times wades got on the line that pisses me off and decided to stop watching it. Any person who say it was not rigged must watch the whole series.
If OKC Thunder didn't won the WCF in 2012 & instead the Dallas Mavs had won that year & they'll gonna face Miami Heat again on the Finals for the 3rd time, then it'll be a classic rematch but the Heat might get a revenge on that year & win it on Game 7. Not only Dirk will had an intense rivalry with DWade but also to Lebron as well but unfortunately it didn't happened as we all know that the Thunder had spoiled it. Damn you KD!!! 😤😡
You know what's funny You mention they got drafted 5 years apart right well they met in the finals twice but it took 5 years to actually meet as the Mavs one the second time and the Heats won the first time as they both won Game 6 for the chip.
No offense to d wade as he is a great player and one of the greatest but dirk was even better dirk was probably the second most influential player on the game and one of the greatest.
It's pretty even Wade is a Top 5 SG All-time, one of the best defensive 2 guards in history, and in 2006 had one of the best Finals of all time after Jordan
@@munir9527 bro in 2006 the refs carried Wade and robbed the mavs of a chip. Its the only time that I can think of the nba actually commiting to a fix. Dirk was simply better
Dwyane wade is the 3rd best sg ever and dirk is either the best or second best all time pf and both are the best players on their times on their teams ever.
people who say that are mavs fans...bar none...or didnt watch the series...wade was being guarded by terry harris howard stackhouse daniels and griffin ….with dirk and dampier on the floor they had no chance to stop wade
Sadly both men will be remembered for those drafted ahead of them, the legendary Michael Olowokandi For dirk and of course nba legend Darko Milićic for d-wade
Yeah dude it's tragic how those legends overshadowed what they did for their team. Just look on what darko achieved in his rookie year winning hist first ring
Hahahaha nice
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Nah they def will be remembered for their own shit they're the reason nobody knows/remembers those other dudes lol
Hilarious
Dirk was low key the future of the nba with a 7ft shooter and wade is the last of the undersized slashing guard
Wall and rose are done and Westbrook is proving that kd was right to leave
Leo Bienaime .. Excuse Me But They’re Still Great Gaurds 🤦♂️ You Didn’t Make That Exception In Your Original Quote So He’s Right
They are with out a doubt great guards but the most 3s attempted in a season by wade was 84 I’m pretty sure those three have taken more in a season
I should have said wade is the last of the all time true guard that doesn’t take an average 3-4 threes a game
Not so Wealthy Gamer that’s all I’m trying to say he scored he blocked he could do it all up until the very end we might not see a two guard like that again
still remember when wade and bron teased dirk of his flu-like symptoms, and then dirk schooled them on the court.
alic_ leee dirk never schooled dwade in both of their finals matchups. And almost all of the mavs players schooled lebron in that series.
Dwade played better than Dirk in both matchups. Dirk washed the heat with a true valiant effort from Dwade
Whoever watched that series will not forget. They were pretending to cough to tease Dirk during warm-up, then proceed to get outplayed big time.
Hell yea
@Trill Figga no
Let's not forget, Erick Dampier was on both losing ends of the finals with the Heat and Mavs.
Shulkle Arcidiacono Lol yeah poor dude.
Lol yeah. Tough luck for damp
Lol yeah thats so funny lol shaq used to call him ericka dampier lol
poor dude?..he made so much money from the warriors dude for being a scrub..him murphy and foyle stole so much money...@@jon99867
Asmosis Jones I’m not talking financial stuff. Some players just want to win a championship before they retire, he’s just unlucky that he was a part of the losing team in both finals.
7:57... While this is true, idk what the numbers say, but Dirk in the 4th/down the stretch was so clutch in the Finals. Even when he was struggling in the first 3, he always showed up in the 4th/down the stretch. That's what I remember, at least.
I'll never forget when those dudes mocked Dirk and lost lmao. I was so happy the Mavs won mainly because of Kidd truly deserving a ring from all that hard work he did for those Nets in the early 2000s.
I think mock is a strong word....they respect dirk..i think lebron and wade were mocking the media coverage of dirk coughing once on camera..they didnt know he was even sick but they were basically showing us how the felt about how other teams were covered when they played them and how every little thing became an excuse or story because the fans and media wanted to take away from miamis greatness...its true when you think about it...thats not who wade or bron are at heart...if kobe did it well then thats who he or curry are..aka bitches...
Asmosis Jones Finally someone said it
@Michael Oates Yeah and if Caron Butler never got hurt early in the 2011 season, the Mavs would have been even better than they were that year.
Both played in 2 finals together and considered one of the best players of their position.
True,both top 3 in sg and pf imo
Mike both are 3rd greatest all time at their position lol
1. MJ
2. Kobe
3. Wade
1. Duncan
2. KG
3: Dirk
Wut Duncan has played more games as C and KG vs Dirk is debaytable
imarino13 u ever heard of a damn opinion 😂
Wut you think kg is better than dirk interesting 🤔
I was so excited when Dirk got his ring. That whole run was very formidable
Marq Lock I made a lot of money that year, I had Dallas going all the way starting against Portland.
That team was on a mission. Dirk, jkidd, marion, jterry and peja.
Both players were the best player on their respective teams on both finals. Wade carried the heat on that finals loss no thanks to lebron.
Markees Ravago that was the year Lebron really choked
Well yeah not just choked. Super choked lmao
Remember, wade is only 1 game win ahead on dirk on their career matchups from a total of 35 games where wade has 18-17 winning record than dirk and each won 6 games in playoffs. Tbh this rivalry is pretty underrated.
Rio Taco That’s such a bullshit stats because it’s a team game. Wade had the Big 3 for 2011 until 2014. The same with LeBron and Kobe, Bron had that big 3 team in Miami and Cleveland. If anything, let’s examine their head to head record when their rosters were competitive with each other. But that’s such a frivolous stat when it’s vacant of context.
@@samuel2pac72 you miss out the point dude. This stat shows that they nearly had identical record on their matchups which mesmerizing because they also had similar record playoff record of 6-6 when their team at best. Also to satisfy your point, those 2 finals matchup they were up to are where dirk team is considered favorites in finals but choked on dwade heat and similary on big 3 heat choking to underdog mavericks team. Those 2 finals are where dwade and dirk had their best teams but still had similar records on their matchup. SO THIS STAT IS NOT A BS AND YOUR ARGUMENT IS SHIT
@@samuel2pac72 why are you getting so angry man. If you use that then you can look at all the pathetic teams wade got before and after lebron, or look at his injury history. I mean its an interesting statistic thats it. IMO on the all time list DIrk is 17th and wade 15th.
@imarino13 I wouldn't. Dwade was better at both sides of the ball, a pretty good rebounder for his size one of the best facilitating shooting guards ever, a much better defender, and the best blocking 2 guard ever. Dirk is excellent offensively and probably the best shooting big ever, but he wasn't a good defender and he was a pretty terrible rebounder for his size. For instance, in his 4th and 3rd to last seasons, Tim Duncan matched Dirk's career high and second best rebound tally. And out of the 19 seasons he played, in only 4 seasons does he have less rebounds per game then that.
@imarino13 Dude, Dirk had a 50 40 90 season once. He wasn't doing this every year. Hell, he had exactly TWO seasons in his entire career where he shot .500 or better, and 3 seasons where he shot better than .900 from the charity stripe, and 4 seasons where he shot .400 from 3. In those 5 seasons he shot .400 or better, only two had him actually make more than 75 three pointers. Yes, was Dirk very good? Yes, historically so. However, he was very one note in that he was a good scorer. That was basically it. He wasn't really exceptional at anything else. Dwade at his best was as good of a scorer if not better given his higher point totals on one more shot per game (if you look at their career splits, both only have one season with 20+ shots per game: Dirk averaged 25.9 points on 20 shots per game and Dwade had 30.2 points on 22 shots per game, the vast majority of their respective primes they both hovered around 18 shots per game), Dwyane Wade's superior career field goal percentage (though inferior eFG% due to Dirk undeniably being the superior 3 point and free throw shooter), I'd say they're about equal offensively. You could make a convincing argument either way with Dwyane being the better scorer in his prime with crazy efficiency for his size but not 3 and an average free throw percentage while Dirk is better from 3 and the ft, his career high would be tied for Dwade's like 4th best career outing, but he has more 20+ PPG seasons than Dwade does with 12 to Dwade's 10.
However, afterwards is where Dirk falls behind. By a lot. Dwade was a pretty decent rebounder for his size, position, and the era he played most of his prime in. If he was in his prime now, he'd probably have had a lot more rebounds with all the threes and the small ball lineups. Also, for his position and the era he played on, he's one of the best facilitators at the shooting guard position ever. From 2004-2010 he averaged 7 assists per game while averaging 27 points per game. Additionally, he's the best shot blocking guard ever. Dirk had one season with more total blocks than Dwade's highest blocks total. At 7 feet tall. Dwade is 6'4 in shoes. Dirk has 396 more blocks than a dude he's like 8 inches taller than despite playing 5 more seasons and 468 more games in. Dirk looks even worse when you look at his rebounding compared to the other great power forwards of his time like KG and Timmy D. Dwayne Wade is better because even though it's difficult, if not impossible to compare their positions and the fact that their games couldn't be more different, Dwade was the more well rounded player by far. Dirk was really, really good at like one thing. However, you could argue Dwade was better at the one thing Dirk was great at, on top of being much, much better at the other parts of the game. If both were a 10/10 offensively, Dirk would at best be like a 3-4/10 defensively while Dwade would be an 8-9/10 defensively. That still ends up with Dirk being a 13-14 and Dwade a 18-19.
2011 finals was the best revenge ever in nba history
2014
And 2016 👀
2010
@@kmena05 hell no
@@deonnelson9780 hell yeah
D-Wade and Dirk Nowitzki, although they both retire now, all NBA fans will remember them for a long time
Their careers will always be tied together, because of the rivalry between them in 2006 and 2011.
dont forget wade winning mvp of the 2010 all star game in dallas in front of the largest nba crowd ever like 100,000 people in the new cowboys stadium ...
People said this was the new Larry bird vs magic Johnson
My Lakers was swept in 2011, and then cried when Dirk finally captured his first championship. And I was going to be mad if they didn't.
Dallas mavs, phx suns, la lakers and san antonio spurs has so much rivalry in the 2000's and i love to watch them compete with each other.
the blazers and kings too...
Man the rivalries
Dwade vs Dirk
Steph vs LeBron
Kobe vs Duncan
Shaq vs free throw line
What would've made those rivalries better was if they played the same position and guarded each other.
Iggy or Green guarded LeBron while Bruce Bowen guarded Kobe.
Dirk vs Duncan is one of the best rivalry..
@@nchan4679 If Shaq was just a 60% FT Shooter he'd have like 10 rings lol
My guy , good video ....love Dirk and D Wade 🙌🏽
They both gave us legendary Finals battles.
Agreed, Wade and Nowitzki will always be named in the same sentence.
Both ended their last home games of their careers with 30 points...
I really like the honorary All-Star thing. Great way to send off aging former superstars without taking spots away from players who deserve to be there.
Dirk is 4-0 against the mamba in playoff games lol
dirk in 2011 beat kobe odom gasol artest bynum phil then beat kd harden russ ibaka and then wade spo bron bosh...give him props for that...to do that in 1 run reminds me of the 89 pistons going through boston chicago and la in bird magic and mjs primes...you know how hard that is?..his 2nd best offensive player was terry lol
#facts. Sweeeeppppp
dave latumbo Kobe was overrated anyway I’m not surprised
I mean they played only once I mean if they meet in 2008, 2009, and 2010 they would have got destroyed
“Donnie Pate” you the type of fool who call most nba legends overrated Kobe is a top 10 player in NBA history regardless of what your hating ass believes !
For me its always be dirk vs duncan... dirk may only have 1 ring but any spurs fan knew how good dirk during playoff
I loved the days when it was Duncan, Dirk, Kobe, and Nash. In those days, you had to win like 50 games just to be an 8 seed in the West. Crazy.
Absolutely love the video, and they're both Top 20 all time, and likely Top 5 at their positions... For now. They each helped develop and inspire new styles of plays and new signature moves that will help the newest generation of players to surpass them, but at the moment they retire, I'd say they're both top 5 all time at their respective positions.
Andy your background music is so soothing. That's why I don't even go to any other channel that does what you do. You make Basketball even more fun to watch and play by reporting each player you did a vid on your channel
I'm a heat fan but 2011 was still bittersweet. Ofc you want your team to pull out the win but watching Wade and Dirk battle it out was truly amazing. I just wish Dwyane didn't get hurt in the start of Game 5, he was playing almost to an identical point of his 06 performance throughout the first 4 games. Idk just could've had a maximum battle being more entertaining.
yeah the heat should of own 2011...it pains me we didnt...its like lebron didnt want to win...I just feel bad for the vets he let down that never got a ring like big z dampier magloire stackhouse and bibby
I bought me a Nowitzki jersey in '11. Im still proud of that jersey till now. 41.21.1
9:42 Yeah we really need a Dirk Nowitzki vs. Tim Duncan rivalry video.
Trill Figga Dirk actually played really well against other big man (or better than you’d think). What he really struggled with was against smaller defenders like the ones you mentioned, especially Bowen, McGrady, and most infamously Stephen Jackson.
jon99867 Shawn Marion too was a notorious dirk Stopper. Was glad when he finally joined us lol.
They act like 2 legends cannot coexist ✊🏿
D-Wade best Shooting Guard behind MJ & Kobe!
Dirk best Power Forward behind Tim Duncan & Karl Malone!
Why aren't you you posting videos now?
Top 10. NOT ABOVE BIRD & BARKLEY
Dirk is better than Malone and Barkley and Duncan.
Duncan had a lot more help and never took over a game or a series.
Duncan had Eli, Horry, Kerr, Gino, Parker,Robinson, Green and Khawi just to name a few that carried Duncan, all those players hit game winners and all the big shots.
@@toddduffy1658 Duncan beat Dirk many times head to head
Duncan was also All-Defense like 10+ times, Finals MVP 3 times, and statistically dominant on both ends of the court
Duncan is the best PF ever
@@munir9527 Duncan is more a 5 than a 4.
Miami and Dallas should’ve played each other in the last game in f the season just to make it more interesting
Dirk 2011 finals run was the greatest accomplishment by any player in nba history
While it is a great feat, there are a few other accomplishments that I would put above it like Hakeem's 1995 run, Bill's 11 rings, Michaels two 3-peats and Shaq and Kobe's '01 run.
@Swag God Dirk was da Supastar Fam but like Da Dream in '95 Dey didn't have anotha all-star da year Dey won!!!
@Swag God Dirk was a legitimate superstar.
Chandler was a DPoY.
Kidd was a great asset with plenty of experience.
Marion was also great.
The '94 Rockets are the only team in NBA History to win without 2 All-Stars and HoF'ers.
@Swag God Age is nothing but a number in championship runs.
@imarino13 Tyson Chandler was DPoY, Kidd was the floor general, Terry was hitting clutch shots and outplaying LeBron, and a whole bunch of other guys stepping up to destroy Miami. Stop it.
This would be an awesome subject for a documentary.
Dallas and Miami should have been a good rivalry. Imagine that.
In the vacuum of the 2 finals and the stories they told along with the overarching story of Wade and Dirk's careers, I think it was one of the best and most unique rivalries in recent history.
Dirk is one of my favorite players and guys of all time. Still mimic his fallaway fade.
I remember that 2006 NBA Finals. Mavs were killin the Heat in the first 2 games and even game 3. Then the whistles came. Shitfest after game 2 or 3.. The refs screwed over the Mavs.
But, Dallas got the revenge in 2011. Embarrassed the Heat in an upset. lol. Mavs weren't really even expected to make it to the Finals. Spurs, Lakers or Thunder should've been there.
Mavs were gettin old and know playoff chokers. Considered soft, jump shooting type team. But, 2011 was magical for them.
Yeah I was incredibly pissed. Considering how 3 of those Mavs losses were by 3 points or less, the fouls really gave the Heat the title.
I mean, even Shaq never reached 97 free throws. The closest he ever got was 93 in 2000 against the Pacers... and he was getting fouled intentionally.
Dallas choked a 2x0 and had a better team, just admit that Heat took over Dallas, won 4 straight games, 2006 was a deserved Heat title
@@lucascasagrande4799 Nope.
they choked dude
Nowitzki shot like 40% from the field
And now fast forward to now, these 2 were named to the NBA' 75th Anniversary Team and the bonafide headliners of the 2023 Hall of Fame Class.
not even a Mavericks fan but the 06 finals was rigged af
Still stings after 13 yrs.
Just like Shaq and Kobe Vs Kings in 2004
@@richard_lisondra It's 2002
It is 2004 you ass. They have Malone, Payton that year
stop
Wade's biggest rival is paul pierce🤣
They will be on the same HoF class. Their speech about each other will be interesting
I have a growing appreciation for what the Mavs had done in 2011 as time went by.
I began as a huge Dwade fan that hated Dirk but now that both are retired I highly respect Dirk.
I’m a huge Dirk fan. Still hate D Wade
My favourite players of all time.. two of the bests in their roles but humble enough to divide the leadership with others
Forget the comparison between the two.
Two legends, both are champions.
i think the biggest irony is wade gets downgraded for playing with shaq but the 2011 mavs had a better 2nd option in the playoffs named terry scoring wise he impacted the game more than shaq in 06 did lol..wades performance is more important...his team barley won 3 of those games..no one gives him enough credit for willing them to wins...
@@razkable couldn't agree more to that.
2010 is the year that I fell in love in the nba. And also seeing Jason terry and Jj Barea Tearing miami apart is kinda sad lmao
These two warriors will be missed
if they did the honorary all star thing with kobe and duncan that would have been epic
Kevin Zhang Kobe was a all star his last season and nobody knew Duncan was retiring that year
Yeah if the NBA knew Duncan was retiring, he would been an honorary all star. It was an unexpected retirement.
@@mase8705 Duncan didn't want all that attention. that's just how timmy did it and that's what makes him a legend without his stats
Kevin Zhang Duncan was waaaaay better than Kobe
If nowitzki went to the finals in 03 they will be facing the nets. But if dwade went to the finals in 05 they will meet the spurs.. Thats another level.
I wish they both played against each other in their final game
I love my Mavs so much but I've always respected Wade and his passion for the game. Dirk IMHO edges Wade out when comparing their careers side by side.
muy bueno el video! :D
creo que ambos son grandísimos jugadores!
me gusta tu canal!!! ánimo!!! sigue así!!!
"Dwayne Wade took over, and the Mavericks collapsed"
Really easy to take over when you magically find yourself at the line every trip.....................
Exactly. Funny how it wasn't so easy to win in 2011 when he got half the foul calls.
Rick Sweeney bruh they could not keep wade in front of him very few bad calls maybe 6 at most in total
The mavs had trouble all season dealing with explosive shooting guards D wade was just the worst matchup for them
@@THE_BEAR_JEW lmao the 2011 Mavs were way better defensively, Dirk was almost as good as he was in 2006 and they got a lot more veterans together and won a chip (including tyson chandler who largely saved the Mavs defense) Wade was still phenomenal in 2011 they lost because LeBron choked. In 2006 the Mavs defense was pretty bad and they had to foul d wade whenever he was in the paint
Almost like d wade is an explosive slashing guard that the mavs couldn’t guard lol
As a Mavs fan, I remember what the "Whistle-gate" finals in 2006 and being SO pissed about it all. The whole city of Dallas was in mourning for weeks lol.
But 2011 made it ALL worth the pain. Seeing Dirk get his revenge and a bunch of deserving guys get thier one and only championship against all odds was nothing short of amazing. And it has to be one of the best finals in history.
I think they're both top 5 all time at their position guaranteed but you could argue top 3 as well. I actually rank Dirk over KG at PF [Duncan at 1, Karl Malone at 2] for the fact that he lead his team to the championship and he's scored over 30,000 points. Plus, Dirk revolutionised the game; because of him every big man shoots now. Dirk also had the 2nd most unguardable shot with his one footed fadeaway.
Gerrard C what's the most unguardable shot? Kareem sky hook? Kobe Fadeaway? Tim Duncan bank shot?
2 great legend’s of the game.
Diiiiiirk! For three!!!
Y'all Kno what's more crazier is that Shaq originally wanted to get traded to Dallas 1st but something happened n he didn't go but ended up in his 2nd choice Miami lol. Which he won there so it's crazy to think that if he would have came here to Dallas he n Dirk would have won n not Wade
'06 Mavs-Heat and '02 Kings-Heat are the Peyton and Eli Manning of NBA ref screwjobs (with '01 Bucks-Sixers as Cooper Manning). I'm not the one that thought of that. But it is appropriate. Dirk should have two rings.
And they didn’t have to jack up 30 shots a game in their final season. Also didn’t halt other players’ success like....
You work it out
TDB
Kobe?
Boss2119 • ding ding ding
Luke Jordan and kobe?
And they didnt have to stage a "farewell tour".. oh wait
Still watching 💪💪💪 March 21, 2022
Wade 3rd best SG, and Dirk has to be top 6 PF, just behind legends with more rings or in bigger markets, but it's not bad to be on the top 10 of your position in almost 70 years (or more)
this is the most annoying comparison in the history of the game. besides shooting the basketball, dirk did nothing better tangibly or intangibly. because of what happened in 2011, the 17 year old me knew that people would rank dirk above dwyane wade. but the reality is if lebron even HALF shows up, the heat win that series in 6 games. and wade is finals mvp for the second time against dirk. people talk about the refs in 2006, but wade simply was better than dirk and some foul calls he clearly deserved. dirk having a longer prime doesn’t make him better. by that logic, lebron over mj. and dirk being more revolutionary for the game also doesn’t make him better. by that logic, steph curry over lebron. wade was simply better at his peak, like way better. would you say prime dirk is better than prime kobe or close to prime kobe? no of course you wouldn’t. so why use that argument against wade who was neck and neck with kobe and lebron in his prime? how in the world is a top 3 2 guard of all time not better than dirk? this is still THE most annoying basketball comparison to me. just because he’s european born, 7 ft and is a great shooter of the basketball, does not make him better. him being a “nice guy” also doesn’t make him better. him winning in 2011 despite dwyane wade having better numbers with underperforming teammates also doesn’t make him better. knock it off with this dumb ass take and comparison.
So, you're not going to talk about the 2006 finals being rigged?
Get ready for Miami fans, it was an embarrassment for the league, Stern could have at least made it less obvious.
Every finals is rigged then. Get over it. Miami won. Atleast Dirk has got a ring.
@@addisonhinson6290 i dont even give a damn what you have to say, that was highway robbery.
As a heat fan, it did seem like Wade got a lot more calls that were questionable, but it was still an amazing performance and lets not act like the heat didn’t deserve. And After going back and watching it, it seemed more like wade was just taking advantage of bad defense and going to the rim and u get fouled when u go to the rim. This was after the league started to try to increase offense production and created more rules to crack down on over physical defense, and slashing guards like Wade and Kobe obviously thrived during this time because of how many times they drove to the rim and got fouled.
Yeah wade got a lot of calls cuz you really think terry, harris, howard, daniels, and stackhouse could guard him? Too easy to drive to the basket for dwade and no one can stop him.
unfortunately Wade never played against lebron in playoffs, so i wont call them rivals.
yeah it's kinda crazy how a series between them never happened
Seki Koh almost happened in 2009 and 2016.
In 2004 the NBA outlawed handchecking. The next few years were a transition period for players and refs adjusting to the new rule. In 2006 you have the quickest player in the league repeatedly attack the basket and you can see where the high number of free throws came from.
yeah the mavs in the 4th could not catch up to him...he was just to fast and crafty...honestly they should of tried more josh howard on wade due to length..everyone else on the mavs could not guard him...period...
Why didn’t u add their regular season games ? That Christmas game after the 2011 chip was a brutal turning point
that championship mavericks team was stacked! all positions!
tim donaghy (mafia ref accused of rigging games) just did an interview saying that the refs came together against mark cuban in the 2006 finals bc of all the write ups after games the league enforced bc of marks complaints
Yep Dwade had 30 something FTs in a game.
@@TokyoBalletReprise every gsme bro
The end of the era they was the last 2 left but Bron and Wade did got too cocky Dirk was coughing on the bench I remember that good and 02 and 06 is the most rigged azz series we all know it...
Pretty much. We all saw it but don't tell that to Kobe and Wade fans. They'll defend those till the end of time.
Lets be real if Lebron didn't wet the bed in 2011 Wade would have won another finals mvp.
Someone Make a Movie about this which Tells the backstory about this like in rocky balboa, but also symbolyzes the same Details about their Career and then put in game Highlights to Show the game.
Stern gifted Wade title in 2006, that was Dirks I dont care what anyone says, rewatch it, man got to the line 25 times a night, every ticky tack foul, every questionable call. NBA needed a new star and Wade was that guy, that championship has an asterisk next to it. I do not respect Wade for that I would never exchange jerseys with him, Dirk got his revenge in 2011 but it still isnt right, he is a 2 time champion.
please stfu. Let it go. Wade tore them to shreds. End of story. Stop the conspiracies. No proof of any foul play.
Trill Figga Dirk got whooped. Wade had one of the most dominant finals ever. He put that heat team on his back. Dirk isn’t a goat either, at least Stan a goat :>
Good shit Andy !! 💯
Nowitzki just choked in 2006, he shot like 40% from the field
Wade took over on both ends, which is why Miami came back, and he deservingly won the Finals MVP
5:28 not a backcourt ? lol maybe Dallas' complaints on the refereeing had some ground
Bro wtf. That's not the line. It's from the logo
@@dgjjxvjf2638 whoops, u got me. watched other footage, that's really not the center line.
But still some of Dallas' complaints are legit.
That 2006 nba finals. I remember watching it and all I can think of is how many times wades got on the line that pisses me off and decided to stop watching it. Any person who say it was not rigged must watch the whole series.
Do a video like this but with lillard and westbrook
If OKC Thunder didn't won the WCF in 2012 & instead the Dallas Mavs had won that year & they'll gonna face Miami Heat again on the Finals for the 3rd time, then it'll be a classic rematch but the Heat might get a revenge on that year & win it on Game 7. Not only Dirk will had an intense rivalry with DWade but also to Lebron as well but unfortunately it didn't happened as we all know that the Thunder had spoiled it. Damn you KD!!! 😤😡
um the mavs lost in round 1 in a sweep in 2012 lol....
Didn't the Mavs lost in the 1st Round?
Dirk is the top 3 best power forward of all time and Dwyane wade is top 3 best shooting guards of all time
timmy mailman barkley kg dirk...dirk didnt defend..
LOVE ME SOME DWADE TOP 3 SG. GLAD THEY BOTH HSVE CHIP. NOWITSKI IS TOP 10 PF
Top 10 PF? He is a top 3 PF of all time, many will put him 2nd behind Duncan!
Great research
You know what's funny You mention they got drafted 5 years apart right well they met in the finals twice but it took 5 years to actually meet as the Mavs one the second time and the Heats won the first time as they both won Game 6 for the chip.
This two got rings but haters got what?nothing
Andy Hoops confirms that Dirk Nowitzki and Dwyane Wade had an intense basketball relationship.
No offense to d wade as he is a great player and one of the greatest but dirk was even better dirk was probably the second most influential player on the game and one of the greatest.
It's pretty even
Wade is a Top 5 SG All-time, one of the best defensive 2 guards in history, and in 2006 had one of the best Finals of all time after Jordan
@@munir9527 bro in 2006 the refs carried Wade and robbed the mavs of a chip. Its the only time that I can think of the nba actually commiting to a fix. Dirk was simply better
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Great video! Love it.
U should do a Video Dirk Nowitzki and Tim Duncan the History of them two in the playoffs
being all-star picks, classy fucking move by the league 🙌🙌🙌🙌
Great video!!
Dwyane wade is the 3rd best sg ever and dirk is either the best or second best all time pf and both are the best players on their times on their teams ever.
Love to know your take on this, Andy! Great video on two legends.
Jaylen Brown next video Andy Hoops 🙏🙏🙏
Love this video
I know people still saying the 06 finals was "rigged", but you CANNOT deny Wade was cooking up that Mavs defence like they were Jambalaya
people who say that are mavs fans...bar none...or didnt watch the series...wade was being guarded by terry harris howard stackhouse daniels and griffin ….with dirk and dampier on the floor they had no chance to stop wade
DAVID HASSELHOFF poor Dirk. Those ‘06 Heat fans were crazy
Great video
They're the Magic-Bird rivalry of the 2000s
Mmm.. no
Hell Nah
That's Bryant and Pierce/Duncan
I thought the picture of mark Cuban scrunching his face up because they weren't getting the right calls was him on the toilet being constipated lol
lmao dirk looks like shaggy 1:14