MaxPax going to get Protoss nerfed again. ESL SC2 Cup Finals
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- StarCraft 2 Tournament - ESL SC2 Cup 178 EU Finals - MaxPax does his best MOBA impression with endless waves of Zealots vs Clem in this dramatic Protoss vs Terran series!
StarCraft 2 Legacy of the Void - ESL SC2 Pro Tour EU Cup 182 Finals - Clem (Terran) vs MaxPax (Protoss) - Best of 5
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"He's not dead, which is the first step in being alive."
-Wintercraft
Clem's one marauder is like the old saying, "One unit dead in the midgame is a tragedy, twenty units dead in the lategame is to free up supply"
Clem vs MaxPax is quickly becoming the EU Classico and i'm here for it.
Man, I never get tired of a good old fashioned 2-base blink stalker pressure in the main base. The skill showcase of watching high level Protoss micro using both blink and warp prism micro, while also managing often as not 2 different battle groups and macroing at home, when it's good, it's just so clean looking. With the exception of maybe Dark or Scarlett, I'm pretty much always rooting for Protoss these days, but MaxPax makes it a lot easier.
Leg enhancements was a refit of the Zealot powersuit with new leg actuators, Winter, it's right there in the original manual! Although, in fairness Charge was meant to be a protoss upgrade in StarCraft, but they couldn't get the animation to work right so they gave up.
"MaxPax isn't dead. Which is the first step to being alive."
Words of wisdom by Winterstarcraft!
The both of them putting on such a great show. Love the intensity of these players, they really play the game on the edge.
MaxPax is just a pleasure to watch every time. Thanks Winter!
The lil drone poking the probe zapping the drone was super cute :3
Man, MaxPax's micro is such a beauty to behold. Amazing control in Game 3!
With the amount of action happening per second, it's difficult to keep up so major thanks for the cast Winter!
Winter your articulate casting jokes are the fricking best :D
Why is Clem and Maxpax 2 of my fav players to watch. Especially together?
Because every unit is a hero unit. You rarely see either of them abandon a single unit. They expect a fight to the last breath from every supply worth.
Wow don't normally see Clem get out-miro'd. Great series.
We do by MaxPax and it's becoming consistent. Good :-)
I usually do not like videos, but I sort of by default like your casts because I know I’m going to chuckle at the „Jimmy what are we at?“
I'm here for Jimmy as well
Thanks for being a vampire for us 3rd shifters. You make my days better every day
You make my day a little bit better since years. I remember driving from montreal to edmonton (alberta) and having you on streaming on my cellphone 8 years ago :)
maxpax - the last chance of protoss (unless her0 learns to put a door in the wall every game).
I felt this in my very soul
Zero offline wins 😂
Amazing content as always winter😊
Gotta get those likes in. Looking forward to this casting
That's some mighty fine talking you got there, Winter.
Love the change of picture of Clems card. The kid grew so much.
Great series!
A very starry-eyed replacement picture for the frenchman here
Good to know Winter is neighbors with Tychus
I liked so there will hopefully be more
I like "ahhhhh timewarp!" better than just starting matches at 1minute30
lmao at that new picture.
Maxpax now plays oracle into blink in both PvZ and PvT :D
What a series.I feel like MaxPax has been getting noticeably better over the past year. I have wondered, when is it better to prioritise killing medivacs over units?
Great casting Winter!
nICE NEW BACKGROUND.
Clem got his hair done
unironically, I would watch your Tedx talk
MaxPax is like a Protoss Byun. The Micro is just insane.
Great game!!!
Go Protoss
Thank you!
In Game one there were long stretches the tanks were not firing if one had been a tiny bit closer the 3rd would have gone down.
Maxpax may very well be the current best blink stalker strategist right now..
clem?
@@JohnMelon Thanks for pointing out the mistake.. I definitely meant Maxpax,.have changed it now..
32:00 - You don't see many pro games get to this point but that is literally what happens every time I play TvP on ladder :P
Winter, can you explain why you have decided to print this players cards as dual class? and why both are rogues?
Looks like Clem was having a bit of a rough day
What if disrupters could curve their danger balls over cliffs like the terran units?
Why does the widow mine not take damage from zealot and stalkers at about the 41:55 minute mark?
Vikings have learned blink terran is truly the best now
Maxpax on "Max point".... 🤣
Why don’t we see sentry walls with disrupters to block retreat?
I would guess 2 things : first when disruptors show up, usually the ghost are usually already in play, so emp makes the sentry useless, second also the micro involved.Also by that point i would guess for not much more you can get hightemplars with storm
A move op
Winter you can reuse jokes, we have long-term memory loss anyway!
Love watching Clem. So nice. 1070
20:10 I always find it weird how Terran will build bases on location when a much safer point is close by.
How much time can you really lose just flying a CC a short distance vs risking the building scv dying?
Not a fan of clem games usually because i dont like watching starting tech for terran melt carriers, but this one was pretty good
recently i only watch maxpax games
greaat
great series, but Winter, please its not viva liberty, its vive libertad :D
For the algorithm
If you're not on the offensive against Clem, you will lose.
Love the title, protoss barely beat Terran in a Bo5 gotta nerf them again.
Spylons 🙂
MaxPax is Parting
if you read this press the thumbs up for the video please
I've said this before and I'll say it again -- MaxPax maphacks. He was a fringe top player with creative builds, and all of a sudden catapulted himself into the top 5 protoss in the world. Sorry but that doesn't really happen.
Until I see MaxPax play at this level at a live venue, I'm going to continue to assume he's maphacking.
Thats a huge accusation and you ignore some facts. Fact : he was getting continously better for some time, it didnt happen overnight. Fact: his micro is insane, so his skills is crazy, and you cant blame maphacking.
MaxPax, Dark and maybe Hero can stop Clem but it's still a total coin flip. They are all playing beyond normal.
Like for the MaxPax puns
I'm pretty good at talking to myself but Winter, Sir you are in a whole other league 🫡 👑
35:42-36:53
LMAO the pedantic rant had me goofing.
910th ha! eat it
First like!!
TERRRRRRRAAAAAAANNNNNN!!
R.I.P.
wow toss op needs nerf.
i dont know whats up about clems build but somebody stop him please
even in PVT... Zerg is cheap.
I left zerg and came to the protos side. Zerg is for big brains.
prepare your 20 fingers for Disruptor shot (not on your own army), feedback, sidestorm, force field and blinking Stalkers... while sending zealots run by ;)
@@bongkem2723 Zeolot ruby takes shift then approximately 2 clicks & ignore 😂Don't need Disruptors or Sentries below high Masters. EDIT: although to be fair Zerg doesn't need too many units below high Masters either, but like Terran definitely more APM.
Winter I like your commentating but you say God more than a Catholic in prayer after confessing
Toss gets distracted 5 seconds: Loses 1 unit
Terran gets distracted 0.5 seconds: Loses 30 supply in bio.
Yeah sure, tell that to widow mines, that are invisible and to hundreds of pro games that were lost by Protoss due to early widow mines drops. Or to udodgeable emp that takes away 30-50% of hp
@@firestarter000001 The EMP is as undodgeable as a nova. Its a lot more about distance and harassing than it is about dodging.
Vision range from your base, even if you are THE MOST INCOMPETENT PROTOSS, with no scouting units, is about 800 units in every direction. Even with a boosted medivac you still have like 3-4 seconds between when you see the medivac and when it drops the first mine. Then there's a delay between dropping each mine, Then the mined takes a couple seconds to borrow, then the mined take a couple seconds to fire. About 7-9 seconds if the terran does everything PERFECTLY, boosts his medivac to go in (Meaning it will be harder to escape) and micros perfectly.
If the toss cant react in that time to move away his probes he is just an incompetent player. The only reason mine drops ever work in higher leagues is because at the same time there's 2-4 more fights happening in different places of the map. Which will doesnt happens in lower leagues.
@@benjamindeh873 Emp is as undodgeable as Nova? You high? You literally cant dodge EMP, when nova is dodged all the time. Mass damage from mine drop is avoidable , but you havent got that much time as you describe, if you start pulling the probes when the mines start burrowing you are already to late, you wont get out of range.You got 2 maybe 3 seconds , if the medivac boosts at the right moment. But thats widow mine drop. In a fight widow mines can be waiting invisible and annihilate your units. You alwys see the nova.
@@firestarter000001 Man...some people just dont know how to play or understand basic concepts. Here Ill simplify it for you.
Nova and EMP act on the same concept. If you get close enough to the caster's range without destroying or zoning out the caster, they very likely get you.
The nova has almost twice the movement speed of a marine. Even stimmed marines cant outrun it.
Zoning? You know that word?
And 2 seconds? AHhAHAHahaha do you even... play the game? It takes longer for the mine just to BORROW! X). Forget about everything else.
Now lets assume the most incompetent toss ever with 0 scouting: A probe has 8 sight, and a boosted medivac moves 5 units per second. Thats almost 2 seconds.
As per liquipedia the mine takes 2.14-2.5 seconds to borrow without drilling claws.
Then lets just talk about the first mine to be nice to you. The first mine takes about half a second to drop.
Rounding DOWN to your convenience so far we are at 5 seconds. Oh but there's more.
Now after borrowing, the mine takes 1.07 seconds to acquire a target in range. If the target is still in range after another 1.07 seconds. THEN it fires. The projectile is quite fast, but depending how close the probe is, you still have about half a second to spread them out.
Once again, rounding DOWN thats no less than 7 seconds, just on game/units delays. In this example, we have the most incompetent toss player who couldnt scout nothing, and a perfect terran player which performed multiple precise movements with absolutely no errors or delays, and wasted the boost to get in (Making it EASY for any half competent toss to kill the medivac).
A more realistic terran will take 8-15 seconds to perform the maneuver depending on skill level. Your average ladder hero will probably round around 10. And thats being generous.
If you were half competent and had pylons and/or other scouting units in the right places you get even more than than that.
@@benjamindeh873 its all made up nonsense. Like literally you see nova doing nothing 10 in a row and emps landing all the time because they are instant . You are one of those pople who got a thesis "Protoss is easy and Terran is hard and weak" and you wont let facts get in your way, you will just make up arguments "but ofc black is white". So no , im not going to discuss with you any longer.
Remove shield batteries.
Just delete protoss. Then you can cry about another race.
Protoss need the help
Ok, I'll give up my shield batteries if Terran loses seige tanks and zerg loses... meh... lurkers. Idc about zerg.
Acceptable substitute for seige tank removals: Planetary fortress, ghosts, orbital command, cyclones, reapers, BC teleport (like cmon lmao), spider mines and/or stimpack.
@@joethestrat yeah id drop siege tanks and cyclones that shit is for pussies
Remove bias.
Friendly reminder to all of MaxPax's fans:
Never forget to include the one and only Beastyqt in your prayers. We may have never been blessed with this kind of gameplay without him.
He was the one that discovered him on the Ladder and immediately recognized his incredible potential. He was the one that convinced him to strive for greatness; mentoring and encouraging him in the early days. He was the one that (proudly) got proven right, when everybody witnessed how quickly MaxPax managed to make a name for himsef on the EU Pro scene.
For me (at least), Beastyqt's memory still persists on Starcraft 2, and will continue to do so for as long as MaxPax career does. ❤️🩹